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Minutes of Meeting
OPEN SESSION
Approved as circulated 10/24/11
Board/Committee: CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION Meeting Date I September 26, 2011
Location Mo'ikeha Building, Meeting Room 2A/213 Start of Meeting: 4:00 pm I End of Meeting: 4:53pm
Present Chair Sherman Shiraishi; Vice-Chair Patrick Stack. Members: Mary Lou Barela, Joel Guy; Ed Justus; Carol Suzawa; Jan
TenBruggencate
Also: Deputy County Attorney Jennifer Winn; Boards & Commissions Office Staff: Support Clerk Barbara Davis, Administrative
Aide Paula Morikami; First Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Jake Delaplane
Excused
Absent
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Call To Order Chair Shiraishi called the meeting to order at
4:00 pm with 7 Commissioners present
Approval of Regular Open Session Minutes of August 22, 2011
Minutes
Mr. Justus asked that page 13 of the minutes be amended to reflect his
suggestion that Section 20.03 A be looked at for consideration of adjusting
"services or property of a value in excess of$1,000"to allow for inflation. Ms. Barela moved to approve the minutes as
amended. Mr. Justus seconded the motion.
Motion carried 7:0
Business CRC 2011-01 Proposed amendment creating a new Section 24.04, Kauai
Countv Charter, relating to non-substantive corrections and revisions.
(Deferred to 9/26/11 meeting)
c. Discussion and possible decision-making on how the Commission can
best achieve a review of the Charter for recommendations to correct non-
substantive items as thev relate to grammar, spelling and formatting errors
in the Charter and whether to consider budgeting for an outside editor.
(ongoing)
d. Communication dated 5/25/11 from the Charter Review Commission to
the Cognty Attorney and the County Clerk requesting their input and
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comments regarding their department's manpower capacity and capability
to perform the task of correcting non-substantive items to the Kaua'i County
Charter.
e. Confidential opinion dated 9/16/11 from Countv Attomev Al Castillo
responding to the Charter Commission's request of 5/25/11 regarding that
Office's role with regard to non-substantive corrections and revisions as
proposed for a charter amendment to Kaua'i County Charter §24.04
Chair Shiraishi noted the receipt of the County Attorney's response dated
9/16/11 to the Commission's request for comments regarding that Office's
role with the task of correcting non-substantive items. Mr. TenBruggencate moved to receive the
communication and defer the item pending
receipt of comments from the County Clerk. Mr.
Justus seconded the motion. Motion carried 7:0
CRC 2011-07 Proposed amendment revising Section 1.03, Kaua'i County
Charter, relating to the election of County Officers. (Deferred to 9/26/11
meeting)
Mr. Justus said he would like to see the proposed amendment be submitted
as a ballot question.
Chair Shiraishi noted that although the proposed language was drafted by
the County Attorney's Office,the proposed amendment should be
resubmitted for review of legality and compliance with statutes and superior
laws under the Commission's Rule 4. b. Mr. Justus moved to resubmit the proposed
language to the County Attorney's Office for
review. Ms. Barela seconded the motion.
Motion carried 7:0
CRC 2011-09 Proposed amendment revising Article XV of the Kaua'i
County Charter, relating to establishing a Department of Human Resources.
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(Deferred to 9/26/11 meeting)
d. Communication dated 8/23/11 from the Charter Review Commission to
the Countv Council requesting their input and comments regarding a
proposed Charter Amendment relating to establishing a Department of
Human Resources. Mr. TenBruggencate moved to defer the agenda
item. Ms. Barela seconded the motion. Motion
carried 7:0
CRC 2011-11 Discussion and possible decision-making on Article XXIII,
General Provisions, Section 23.02 H. as it relates to term limits for boards
and commissions members. (Referred to legal for review 8/23/11)
a. Communication dated 8/23/11 from the Charter Review commission to
the Countv Attornev requesting recommendations regarding the legality and
compliance with statutes and superior laws as relates to the Kaua'i Countv
Charter §23.02 H.
b. Confidential opinion dated 8/31/11 from Deputy Countv Attornev
Jennifer Winn offering legal guidance as to the legality and compliance of a
proposed charter amendment to Kaua'i Countv Charter §23.02 H. Mr. Justus moved to waive the CRC's attorney-
client privilege for the opinion dated 8/31/11. Mr.
Stack seconded the motion. Motion carried 7:0
Ms. Suzawa asked if there was confusion within the wording of the first
sentence of Section 23.02 H.
Deputy Attorney Winn pointed out the first sentence read that"no member
of any board or commission shall be eligible for more than two consecutive
terms on the same board or commission or on two different boards or
commissions of the county." That sentence contemplates serving one term
on one board and another term on a different board. As currently written
without the amendment, after the expiration of two consecutive terms either
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on the same board or two different boards, you would not be eligible for a
year. With the change in the second sentence made by the Commission, it
would be in conflict with the first sentence by allowing someone to
continue serving. Basically the first sentence would need to be changed to
make sense with the change in the second sentence.
Mr. Justus asked if a person could currently serve on two different boards at
the same time.
Ms. Suzawa said she had previously been told that she could not serve on
two county boards at the same time but could serve on a county and a state
board at the same time.
Discussion was held on whether a person should be able to serve on more
than one board at a time and whether this needed clarification in the
Charter.
Mr. TenBruggencate felt this was not a problem that needed solving noting
there were several issues already identified for the ballot that would require
the public's attention.
Mr. Justus disagreed noting that one of the agenda items was to prioritize
issues for the ballot and the discussion of an item did not mean it would go
on the 2012 ballot.
Chair Shiraishi stated that he would like time to study this provision along
with the possibility of prohibiting service on two boards or commissions at Mr. TenBruggencate moved to defer this item.
the same time and would entertain a motion to defer. Ms. Barela seconded the motion. Motion carried
7:0
Chair Shiraishi offered to provide clarifying
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language regarding service for the next meeting
CRC 2011-12 Discussion of Article XX, Code of Ethics,to identifv sections
and provisions for future agenda items to be discussed.
a. Review Section 20.03, Contracts for consideration of allowing for
inflation of the dollar amount
Ms. Suzawa noted that prior to this item being placed on the 2010 ballot,
there was discussion of not listing a dollar amount but instead allowing the
amount to be determined by the Finance Director. The Commission felt
that left it too open. The Finance Director said he saw no problem at that
time with increasing the dollar amount to $1,000.
Mr. Justus suggested including a sentence that said `in excess of a value of
$1,000 as of 2010 adjusted for inflation or deflation'.
Chair Shiraishi asked what the criteria would be to determine inflation and
deflation.
Mr. TenBruggencate noted he would be comfortable changing the number
to $5,000 and leaving the inflation issue for consideration in the future.
Ms. Suzawa thought the $1,000 amount had come from the Finance
Director noting that if they put the figure too high, it was felt it would not
pass the vote.
Ms. Justus stated that an amendment that would allow adjustments for
inflation would be easier to deal with than passing amendments to keep up
with an increase in the dollar amount.
Mr. TenBruggencate suggested that the County Attorney could provide
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language which would allow the County Council to amend the dollar
amount.
Mr. Guy said this topic had been vetted completely with the Finance
Director.
Mr. Justus said this would not change the dollar amount as was done in
2010. It would just solidify that the value of the money would be adjusted
in the future without burdening the public every 5 to 10 years.
Ms. Barela asked what would determine inflation and by whose guidelines,
county or state which could be quite different.
Mr. Justus said it would be adjusted to whatever the inflation of the U.S.
dollar was.
Mr. Guy said if they were going to look at a priority list, this item could be
pushed to 2014 as they could live with the $1,000 for a while. Mr. Justus moved to defer this item until it is
called back as an agenda item. Mr. Guy
seconded the motion. Motion carried 7:0
b. Review 20.02 D, Appear in behalf of private interest before anv county
board, commission or agencv
Chair Shiraishi noted the public had voted against this as a ballot item last
year(sic—2008).
Mr. Justus asked if this was presented to the public as `allowing any officer
or employee to present themselves in private interest' and it was turned
down.
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Chair Shiraishi said the previous amendment stated that no officer or
employee of the County shall appear in behalf of private interest before the
board or commission on which they served.
Mr. Justus wondered if the public rejected it because of the way it was
worded. Would it be different if they distinguished the difference between
being a volunteer and someone who is paid?
Ms. Barela said in the Charter, volunteers to any commission are also called
officers.
Mr. Justus asked if the word volunteer was used in the ballot question. If
the public did not know that boards and commissions members were not
paid, there is a good chance they might think they are paid.
Mr. Guy said this was another one of the questions that was well vetted,
including definitions of volunteers. The Commission tried to make it clear
to the voting public what the intent of the ballot question was.
Mr. TenBruggencate felt this was an important matter of public policy and
added that any charter provision which precluded some of the most
competent and civic-minded members of the community from serving did a
disservice to the community and the county. Mr. TenBruggencate
suggested that the Commission take another shot at crafting language that
would serve the best interest of the County and may garner the support of
the voters. Mr. TenBruggencate thought this question might have failed
previously because of a general sense of distrust about government. Board
and commission members should be able to appear before other agencies
with the caveat they disclosure they are an officer of the County, but as an
unpaid volunteer and public-minded citizen they should not be prevented
from making a living.
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Ms. Barela said that on the other hand, she had heard that those who serve
on commissions had the upper hand when they appeared before another
commission so this would be a valid point.
Mr. Stack said the spirit extends beyond appearances before various
committees, councils, etc., and while agreeing with appearing before other Mr. TenBruggencate moved to defer this item to
agencies, why would that not include a$1,000 limit on service provided and January 2012 to allow the Commission to
why would there be a cap? develop appropriate language. Mr. Justus
seconded the motion. Motion carried 7:0
c. Communication dated 8/23/11 from the Charter Review Commission to
the Board of Ethics requesting their input and comments regarding specific
areas of concern or issues related to Article XX, Code of Ethics.
d. Communication dated 9/14/11 from the Board of Ethics to the Charter
Commission responding to the request for comments relating to Article XX, Mr. TenBruggencate moved to defer all items
Code of Ethics. that are part of Article XX to January 2012. Ms.
Suzawa seconded the motion. Motion carried
7:0
CRC 2011-13 Review and prioritize proposed amendments for
consideration of placement on the 2012 ballot
Chair Shiraishi noted there were only 3 ballot questions proposed. Mr.
TenBruggencate stated there were still some amendments in the offing.
Vice-Chair Stack reminded the Commission that as they review and
prioritize ballot questions, they need to exercise care so as to not
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overburden the public with too many issues.
Mr. Justus said there appeared to be around 18 ballot questions in 1980 and
the majority of those passed so, would burdening the voter necessarily be a
bad thing? Ms. Barela thought the attitude of the voter was different today
than in 1980.
Chair Shiraishi thought the Commission's attempt to prioritize ballot
questions might be premature. The Chair then asked for public testimony.
Jake Delaplane: The Prosecuting Attorney's Office will send a
communication to the Commission to propose suggested changes to Article
INA, Prosecuting Attorney. He stated that the powers enumerated in the
Charter for the Prosecuting Attorney are somewhat antiquated in the way
they are written and could be misunderstood that all the Office of the
Prosecuting Attorney is authorized to do is appear in court and represent the
State and the County for violations of the County Code. It leaves out things
like prevention efforts and other things the office has been doing for years.
Mr. Delaplane said he would send the communication with the proposed
language to the Commission by October 10.
Chair Shiraishi assured Mr. Delaplane that his request would be placed on
the October agenda as long as it was received within the timeline required
by the Office of Boards and Commissions to meet their deadlines. Mr. Justus moved to defer the prioritization of
ballot questions. Mr. TenBruggencate seconded
the motion. Motion carried 7:0
Announcements Neat Meeting: Monday, October 24, 2011, 4:00 pm — Mo'ikeha Building,
Meeting Room 2A/B
Adjournment Mr. TenBruggencate moved to adjourn the
meeting at 4:53 p.m. Ms. Barela seconded the
motion. Motion carried 7:0
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Submitted by: Reviewed and Approved by:
Barbara Davis, Support Clerk Sherman Shiraishi, Chair
O Approved as is.
O Approved with amendments. See minutes of meeting.