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JULY 25, 2012
The Council Meeting of the Council of the County of Kauai was called to
order by the Council Chair at the Council Chambers, 4396 Rice Street, Room 201,
Lihu`e, Kaua`i, on Wednesday, July 25, 2012 at 9:35 a.m., after which the following
members answered the call of the roll:
Honorable Tim Bynum
Honorable Dickie Chang
Honorable KipuKai Kuali`i
Honorable Nadine K. Nakamura
Honorable Mel Rapozo
Honorable JoAnn A. Yukimura
Honorable Jay Furfaro
APPROVAL OF AGENDA.
Mr. Chang moved for approval of the agenda as circulated, seconded by
Ms. Yukimura, and unanimously carried.
MINUTES of the following meetings of the Council:
Minutes of the June 27, 2012 Council Meeting.
Mr. Bynum moved to approve the Minutes as circulated, seconded by
Mr. Chang, and unanimously carried.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
GALE R.
C 2012-219 Communication (06/28/2012) from the Mayor, transmitting for
Council confirmation, Mayoral appointee Jo Ann Shimamoto to the Salary
Commission, replacing Mr. William Dahle and whose
partial term en
ds 12/31/2012:
Mr. Bynum moved to receive C 2012-219 for the record, seconded by Mr. Chang, and
unanimously carried.
C 2012-220 Communication (06/22/2012) from the Chief, Engineering
Division, transmitting for Council consideration, a traffic Resolution establishing a
10 mph speed limit for Wa'a Road, Lihu`e District: Mr. Bynum moved to receive
C 2012-220 for the record, seconded by Mr. Chang, and unanimously carried.
C 2012-221 Communication (07/18/2012) from the Director of Finance,
transmitting for Council consideration, amendments to the FY 2012-2013 Operating
and CIP Budgets to balance the General Fund CIP, Highway Fund CIP, and Sewer
Fund CIP Accounts, including other "housekeeping measures": Mr. Bynum moved to
receive C 2012-221 for the record, seconded by Mr. Chang, and unanimously
carried.
COMMUNICATIONS:
C 2012-222 Communication (04/26/2012) from Council Chair Furfaro,
requesting the presence of the County Engineer and the Chief of Buildings to
provide an update on the repair and maintenance of the Kilauea Gym as it relates
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to the leaking roof, floor damage, and corrective action that has occurred to address
the roof and floor: Mr. Bynum moved to receive C 2012-222 for the record, seconded
by Mr. Chang.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
LENNY RAPOZO, Director of Parks & Recreation: The update for... really
much has not happened in terms of progress in terms of doing the lean-to and doors
that we have talked about because during the last budget session or last budget
exercises that we did, my intention was to use the 209 fund or the Parks... some of
that money to fund this thing. We were going to allocate a hundred and twenty
thousand dollars ($120,000.00) to do the study to hire the roofing consultant and
make those improvements. The drawings are done for the lean-to, but in doing the
budget, we needed to sure up and make sure we had the appropriate funds to
encompass everything that we were going to do from the 209 fund. Now that the
budget exercise was done, we know what we are able to spend from the 209 fund.
When we were clear with Finance in terms of what our direction is going to be with
the money in that account, we will be moving forward, we will be transmitting over
to Public Works our plans in hope that they will be able to do the work for us. They
will be reviewing the plans and telling us "yes" or "no."
DOUG HAIGH, Chief of Building Division: We are waiting. We have not
seen the plans and so once we receive those plans, we will be reviewing them and
we are hoping to obtain, we hope we can do it in tandem with the roofing consultant
so that we can make sure the plans are following the appropriate design with
hoping to get feedback from the roofing consultant to assure that the designs are
the best that they can be so that we do not continue with additional problems.
Chair Furfaro: So, we are nowhere? We have not done anything to
the side doors, we are waiting for the roofing consultant before we address the eave
being extended over the side exhibit doors? Is that what we are waiting for?
Mr. L. Rapozo: Parks is giving Building the plans to see if they can
do the work for us. They want to ensure that over the doors, the eave as it was
designed was done properly and that is what they will review. They will give us
yes or no.
Chair Furfaro: Do they have those plans yet?
Mr. L. Rapozo: Those plans are over...
Chair Furfaro: For the eave over the doors, the exhibit doors?
Mr. L. Rapozo: I do not know... the plans went over from Parks,
yes.
Chair Furfaro: Okay. Doug, "yes" or "no," are we going to do the
exhibit doors before we wait for the roof consultant?
Mr. Haigh: We have not reviewed the plans in detail, we are
concerned that the details are done correctly. We are especially concerned about
the flashing detail between the walls and the eave and we want to make sure those
are correct. If it seems to be a simple detail without any issues, we can probably
proceed, if not, we certainly want to get professional consultation to assure that we
do it in the proper manner.
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Chair Furfaro: Let me restate the question and just a "yes" or "no"
will do.
Mr. Haigh: Okay.
Chair Furfaro: Are we not going to do the exhibit doors until we
get feedback on the roof, "yes" or "no?"
Mr. Haigh: That is not my decision. I am sure the County
Engineer is going to want to participate in.
Mr. Rapozo: Did you get the plans?
Mr. Haigh: I have not received the plans.
Mr. Rapozo: Parks said they sent it to you and you said you
have not... where are the plans?
Mr. L. Rapozo: Chair, I will check to see exactly where those plans
are. They should have been delivered.
Mr. Rapozo: When did it get sent over and what is the normal
chain? When you send it out, where does it have to go?
Mr. L. Rapozo: Monday during our Division meeting...
Mr. Rapozo: This Monday?
Mr. L. Rapozo: I asked them to transmit the plans. I cannot see it
going from one (1) office to the other office.
Mr. Rapozo: Monday, then that is reasonable because today is
only Wednesday but I was not sure when the plans were sent over. If it was sent
over Monday then Doug, you should be getting it, I would hope this week. And then
from when you review the plans, you say it is not your decision whether or not you
move forward, whose decision will that be?
Mr. Haigh: I will make a recommendation and I do what my
boss tells me to do and my boss is the County Engineer, my direct boss.
Mr. Rapozo: Okay. So, your recommendations will go to the
County Engineer?
Mr. Haigh: That is correct.
Chair Furfaro: Doug, when do you think you will have something
to share with us so we might as well defer this until we know when you have
something to share with us?
Mr. Haigh: Hopefully within a couple of weeks. It is not
something that will take me a long time to look at and confer with my staff on our...
Chair Furfaro: Four (4) weeks will be fair and reasonable?
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Mr. Haigh: Definitely.
Mr. Bynum: The plans that were sent over were done by whom?
Mr. L. Rapozo: Our in-house architect, at the time Raphael.
Mr. Bynum: Okay.
Chair Furfaro: We should defer this, Doug, until you can tell us
exactly where we are at.
Mr. Rapozo: I just wanted to get some clarification because
Lenny, the last time you were here these eaves or the overhangs were going to be
put on as a temporary measure and it could be permanent but it was really to
protect further damage from going in.
Mr. L. Rapozo: Correct.
Mr. Rapozo: It really was not to rectify the leaking of the roof.
Mr. L. Rapozo: Correct. It was to address water coming into the
doors; to minimize the water coming into the door.
Mr. Rapozo: And that is how I understood it to be, so that would
make sense. If there are other issues related to the roof and leaking, I think it is a
separate issue and that in fact this needs to be addressed as soon as possible to
prevent further damage to the floor.
Mr. L. Rapozo: And including changing the doors out.
Mr. Rapozo: Right. Regardless what happen with the roof,
those doors need to be changed anyway.
Mr. L. Rapozo: Exactly.
Mr. Rapozo: I just want to make sure we are trying to fix the
problem today so that we do not have further damage and then we can address the
roof to the consultant and that is how I understood it to be at the last time we were
briefed.
Chair Furfaro: Gentlemen and members of the Committee, Doug,
if I defer this until August 22, 2012, we will have provided you enough time to be
able to resolve these questions?
Mr. L. Rapozo: Yes.
Mr. Haigh: Yes.
Chair Furfaro: Members, that will be my intention. I am going to
ask for the deferral from someone after we take ublic comments. Anything else
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you can share with us at this time, Doug?
Mr. Haigh: No.
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Chair Furfaro: We are going to try to respect the date we have
agreed on for August 22. Lenny, you have anything to add?
Mr. L. Rapozo: No. Thank you very much.
Chair Furfaro: Gentlemen, thank you very much for being here
today. I would like to take p ublic comment.
GLENN MICKENS: Let us review a little bit of this situation. It has
been ongoing for eighteen (18) years. Two (2) months ago, we heard Lenny Rapozo
tell this Council that the Kilauea Gym roof is still leaking. It was replaced after
Iniki in 1993 and replaced again in 2003. Doug Haigh said that this new roof would
have a twenty (20) year lifespan and yet it is still leaking.
Mr. Rapozo then said, "the remedy is ultimately replacing the roof," and that
Parks and Recreation has ut a request for one hundred twenty thousand dollars
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($120,000.00) to hire a consultant to decide on a solution for the roof and fix the
doors where on the East side of the gym the water is coming in and rotting the gym
floor.
Let us carefully analyze what has happened here and find some semblance of
common sense in addressing what needs to be done. First, we obviously know that
both roofs that were installed were improperly done, whether it was the wrong
material used or incompetent workmanship, it was faulty since the leaking has
never stopped.
Jobs involving County funds require a performance or surety bond from the
contractor. If the contractor fails to properly fulfill his contract then the bonding
company steps in and fixes the problem. The fact that we have spent thousands of
dollars in legal fees and not found out why the bonding company procedure was not
followed is inexcusable.
There are several reasons why this mess has continued for so long but the
major one is that we continue to hire people into positions not because of their
qualifications for the job but for political reasons and thus problems like this will
continue to happen. I applaud Tim Bynum for his making note of this particular
problem. Certainly, unforeseen problems can arise under the best of circumstances
and with capable people in charge. But when a problem like this is ongoing for
eighteen (18) years then we obviously have the wrong people in charge.
Secondly, why are we asked to hire an outside consultant for one hundred
twenty thousand dollars ($120,000.00) to tell a contractor how to properly install a
roof or fix a leaky door? There are many very competent contractors on Kaua`i who
can do this work, will put up a performance bond guaranteeing their work, and do
not have to hire a consultant to tell them what to do.
In conclusion, I believe it is the job of our Council to better monitor problems
like this because we spend tax money on legal action or consultants for problems
like these take years to resolve.
Now if this was just a one (1) or two (2) or three (3) or five (5) year problem, I
can maybe understand this thing ongoing but for eighteen (18) years and we do not
demand that somebody tell us what is really going on. Now we are deferring it
again until August or something. It makes no sense. I am sure people in the public
are asking the same exact questions, "why are we not getting proper answers from
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whoever is in charge?" I do not know who is in charge of this thing. I heard Mel
ask a couple of questions and it is the same thing. Jay, we sat here before you made
mention the fact that a gentleman that broke a leg on that floor, you knew about it
and he did not turn around and sue the County because of it because he was a good
Samaritan, he did not want to shut down the gym. Again, they say that the gym
was sweaty, it was not leaking and that was flimsy excuse. I hope something can be
brought to the forefront and we find out what the action happens to be. Any
questions, I will be happy to try and answer them.
Chair Furfaro: I would like to get some of your statements more
accurate. First of all, in 1993, I think the research that I dug into recently indicated
that the roof was accepted at a point in time where the warranties expired,
therefore invalidated the bond. That is the first piece from the research that I have
done eighteen (18) years ago looking into it. There does not seem to be ability for us
to pursue that particular avenue for damages; I am sorry about it, but that is what I
have looked into. The County Attorney's Office had been involved in verifying that
and...
Mr. Mickens: So, the original roof only had a one (1) year
guarantee?
Chair Furfaro: In the bond work that was assigned to it.
Mr. Mickens: Then...
Chair Furfaro: This is my time to share with you... and then there
was a second approach to overlap the ceilings and correct some of the leaks that
perhaps the wrong attachments being used and so forth, I have found that in the
records. That has happened, that is done... there was a test with water on the roof
and so forth. Recently, some of the issues deal with, not just the roof but also if the
floor is sweating because there was water under it from the flashings from the
exhibit doors, those things are probably generating why the Engineering
Department would like to get an expert involved. I just wanted to say that. Until
we can hear more specifically from what they looked at in the plans on August 22, it
is the goal of this Council to get it fixed once and for all. It has been pretty
unacceptable and as we go forward, we want to fix that. But that is the eighteen
(18) year history, Glenn.
Mr. Mickens: I had a lady call me because she and her husband
has been in the roofing business for thirty some years and she said "I just want to
bring this to your attention that we have done many roofs and we do not
understand what is going on." She said her husband sat there and watched when
they were putting this roof on and I am not a roofer, so I do not know, she said they
were putting nails in the wrong place.
Chair Furfaro: Have her call me, I will be glad to talk to her.
Remember, Kilauea is my hometown so I have great concern for getting this fixed
once and for all. I think we will have more information on the twenty-second (22). I
also want to say that I have great faith in Larry Dill, his staff, Lenny and certainly
Doug Haigh. These are pretty professional people and I would just like to lighten
your last comment, let us give Larry and his people an opportunity to resolve this
with Lenny.
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Mr. Mickens: Larry is a new man on the block and I have no
qualms, I am not blaming Larry in any size, shape, or form. I think he is going to
be very efficient at doing the job.
Chair Furfaro: Then you agree, let us give them some time to try
to resolve it. It is on his watch now.
There being no objections, the meeting was called back to order, and
proceeded as follows:
Ms. Nakamura moved to defer C 2012-222 to the Council Meeting scheduled
for August 22, 2012, seconded by Mr. Chang, and unanimously carried.
C 2012-223 Communication (07/06/2012) from the Director of Finance,
transmitting for Council information, the Period 11 Financial Reports — Statement
of Revenues as of May 31, 2012, for Fiscal Year 2012, pursuant to Section 21 of the
Operating Budget Ordinance (B-2011-732), County of Kaua`i: Mr. Chang moved to
receive C 2012-223 for the record, seconded by Mr. Kuali`i.
Chair Furfaro: For the members, I do plan to do my own evaluation of
this financial and I will share it with you some later time. We have several
members from the Finance Department traveling at this time, so I will have this
come back after we have done a little evaluation.
The motion to receive C 2012-223 for the record was then put, and
unanimously carried.
C 2012-224 Communication (07/02/2012) from the Housing Director,
requesting Council approval to decline the County's option to repurchase Unit No.
58, Villas at Puali, located at 1984 Haleukana Street, Lihu`e, Hawaii, 96766, and to
grant the owner a waiver of the buyback and allow the market sale of the
unit for a period of one-year: Mr. Bynum moved to approve C 2012-224, seconded by
Ms. Yukimura, and unanimously carried.
C 2012-225 Communication (06/26/2012) from the Prosecuting Attorney,
requesting Council approval to apply for, receive, and expend federal funds from the
S.T.O.P. Violence Against Women Grant for the Domestic Violence Prosecution Unit
(DVPU) in the amount of $47,903.00, and to approve the indemnification of the
State of Hawai`i, Department of the Attorney General. Funding received will be
expended on salaries/wages and supplies for the DVPU for the term commencing
July 1, 2013 to June 30, 2014: Mr. Chang moved to approve C 2012-225, seconded
by Mr. Bynum.
Ms. Yukimura: I would like to ask that this item be put to the end
of the agenda for discussion in the afternoon. I did ask for some information which
we just received this morning and I would like to have the Prosecuting Office be
here for some questions.
Chair Furfaro: I want to make sure that we are referring to the
responses we got from Jamie?
Ms. Yukimura: Yes.
Chair Furfaro: About twelve (12) pages worth?
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Ms. Yukimura: Yes.
Chair Furfaro: At 8:30 this morning?
Ms. Yukimura: Yes.
Chair Furfaro: That is what you are referring to?
Ms. Yukimura: Yes.
There being no objections, C 2012-255 was moved to the end of the agenda.
C 2012-226 Communication (07/02/2012) from the Executive on Aging,
requesting Council approval to indemnify the Church of the Pacific for use of
their hall to be used for the Better Choice, Better Health workshops, also known as
the Chronic Disease Self Management Program: Mr. Chang moved to approve
C 2012-226, seconded by Mr. Bynum.
Chair Furfaro: May I have the County Attorney up for this item?
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
Amy, may I assume... may I ask, I do not want to assume anything... the
Office of Aging, the Executive Director there, when we see this particular request on
the Board to use a third party facility, do I assume that any liability exposure
naming the County co-insured or anything of that nature has already been secured?
AMY ESAKI, First Deputy County Attorney: I believe the County will be
using the facility.
Chair Furfaro: Yes.
Ms. Esaki: And therefore they have in the document a
"Release and Hold Harmless Agreement" clause which has been reviewed by our
Office.
Chair Furfaro: Are they requesting any insurance from us?
Ms. Esaki: I am sorry, I have not reviewed the document
myself but it does say that we will "indemnify them," and as far as insurance
coverage, it is not clearly stated in the... excuse me, it does say. We have to supply
with them a proof of comprehensive and general liability insurance.
Chair Furfaro: Thank you. Any more questions of Amy? If not,
thank you very much Amy.
There being no objections, the meeting was called back to order, and
proceeded as follows:
The motion to approve C 2012-226 was then put, and unanimously carried.
LEGAL DOCUMENT:
C 2012-214 Communication (07/04/2012) from the Director of Finance,
recommending Council approval of the following:
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• License agreement for 3.491 acres of land in Puhi (Lot 1540,
Lihu`e, Kauai, Hawai`i) to be used by the Kaua`i Philippine
Cultural Center (KPCC), a 501-C-3 nonprofit, as the location of
a community center to benefit and honor the history
and cultures of the people of Kaua`i, and which license will
assist the KPCC to leverage further future funding and
grant assistance.
Mr. Rapozo: Mr. Chair, just to clarify the first item is to approve
and the second one (1) is to receive, you just read the approval item but 227, is the
one (1) to receive. Well, I am reading the Council agenda and it says,
"recommending Council approval of the following," and 227 says, "Communication
from Ian Jung, Deputy County Attorney, recommending that C 2012-214," oh, I see
214 be received?
Chair Furfaro: Is Ian Jung going to be present for this? I would
like to take a recess right now and give him a call.
There being no objections, the Council recessed at 10:04 a.m.
The Council reconvened at 10:18 a.m., and proceeded as follows:
Chair Furfaro: We are very clear on the Legal Document 214 is an
item for receipt and 227 is an item that we will exercise a vote on.
Ms. Nakamura moved to receive C 2012-214 for the record, seconded by
Mr. Bynum, and unanimously carried.
C 2012-227 Communication (07/19/2012) from Ian Jung, Deputy County
Attorney, recommending that C 2012-214, relating to a License Agreement for the
Kaua`i Philippine Cultural Center, be received for the record, and that the following
License Agreement be approved:
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• License agreement for a term of 99 years with a net
annual rental of One Dollar ($1.00) for 3.491 acres of land
in Puhi (Lot 1540, Lihu`e, Hawai`i) to be used by the
Kaua`i Philippine Cultural Center (KPPC), a 501-C-3
nonprofit, as the location of a community center to benefit
and honor the history and cultures of the people of Kaua`i,
and which license will assist the KPCC to leverage
further future funding and grant assistance.
Mr. Chang moved to approve C 2012-227, seconded by Mr. Bynum.
Chair Furfaro: Members, the items that were recently circulated to
you, I had circulated early in the week from Mr. Jung.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
IAN JUNG, Deputy County Attorney: I apologize for not getting this to you
earlier but what I just handed out is a fact sheet and it gives a project area
description. The land classification for both the (inaudible) zone and County zoning,
as well as a little bit of history of the property and identification of what the further
approvals will be. If you want, I can go through that.
Chair Furfaro: Mr. Jung, before we get our wires crossed, you had
responded to our questions earlier in the week.
Mr. Jung: That is correct.
Chair Furfaro: Okay. This is a new fact sheet.
Mr. Jung: Right. I guess we will call it supplement and there
is an attached map. I know there has been request for maps, so I attached the map
in color for you guys.
Chair Furfaro: Thank you.
Mr. Bynum: Thank you for the written response, I understood
all of it. It all makes sense to me, so I am ready to proceed with this.
Mr. Jung: Sure and again I apologize for not being here at the
last meeting.
Chair Furfaro: Apology is not necessary, we know you had a
conflict, so not to worry.
Ms. Yukimura: Yes, I do appreciate the work on this document and
the responses due to our questions. On number fourteen (14) of the license
agreement that is before us today, does the financial documentation stated in item
fourteen (14) include, I am not sure what they call it for non-profits, but profit/loss
statements? I think there is a required CPA end of the year financial that all
non-profits have to do that includes all of that?
Mr. Jung: We kept it broad for the Finance Director to
determine what...
Ms. Yukimura: I know.
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Mr. Jung: ...the appropriate documentation are but in terms
of non-profits, they are required to keep their books open. There is specific forms
that you can file should non-profit, you can actually go to the location and ask to
request documents to be open to view. If they do not allow for that, then you can
file a form with the IRS to do so. It is kind of like a request for information.
Ms. Yukimura: Okay but does that include things like the audit
statement and I just want to know if that is included.
Mr. Jung: I would leave that up to the Finance...
Ms. Yukimura: No, listen... you are not answering my question. If
the Finance Director wants that, is that included?
Mr. Jung: I certainly think he can argue that issue.
Ms. Yukimura: I would like to... my intention was that it would be
clear that those documents — all those documents would be included so that he
would not have to argue.
Mr. Jung: Right and I think in looking at just the general
term of what the slices is, it is the general document that...
Ms. Yukimura: That is what I am concerned about, that it is just
going to be the document that is required to be filed by the IRS. Now, if you are
looking at how the... you need to have actual expenditure... you need to be able to
see the books and that was always the intention because you cannot enforce an
agreement without that. I just want to make sure that this wording gives the
Finance Director and the County the power to have access to all those documents.
Mr. Jung: I would think it would give access to the Finance
Director to look at those documents but if you want to be clearer, we can certainly
look to amend this and specify every type of document.
Ms. Yukimura: Well you have to have just some language — all
inclusive language that says "including but not limited to," and what I am thinking
of is what you need to know... what the County would need to just be able to
enforce.
Mr. Jung: I certainly see your point but they are a 501(c)3
company so they are bound by their IRS tax status to be non-profit. So in terms of
identifying...
Ms. Yukimura: It is not about their non-profit status, it is about
how they are using the property and charging and so forth. I am not familiar with
all of the filings required for a 501(c)3 but there is a different purpose in terms of
being a 501(c)3 and enforcing a license agreement. Do you not agree?
Mr. Jung: I certainly see where you are going but if you want
to be clear in the document, we certainly can go back and amend the document to
reflect the necessary documents you see fit to be included. I do not know all the
detail that goes into necessary audits and whatnot, so it is hard for me to comment
on that. I would leave it to the Finance Director.
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Chair Furfaro: Before you commit yourself to what you are leaving
up to the... let us hear the whole Council.
Mr. Jung: Sure.
Chair Furfaro: Because it is very simple, an amendment that
makes reference to a manual audit and it being available and so forth.
Ms. Nakamura: On item number fourteen (14) which I think
Councilmember Yukimura is referring to where you talk about "the request of the
Director of Finance, Licensee shall also make available for inspection financial
documentation, including but not limited to all tax filings," maybe you can put "and
annual financial reports."
Mr. Jung: Okay.
Ms. Nakamura: And that should cover... and then it goes on,
"concerning the operation of the facility," that tax filings would include the
(inaudible) that all non-profits are required to submit to the IRS but a lot of times
that information is not detailed enough, so maybe the annual financial report of the
non-profit would be the additional backup information. Specifically related to the
operations of the facility because the non-profit may have other projects and
activities that may not be related to that, I am not sure the scope or the mission.
That is just a suggestion.
Chair Furfaro: Were you able to follow the comments dealing with
the financial reporting because I would hope to get to an amendment today?
Mr. Jung: I think I understand where you are going in terms
of specifying the exact language, I think maybe we can take a recess and identify
the language and if you guys want to approve today with an amendment, that I go
back and do exactly what the Council wants. Without bringing it back up again, we
can do it that way if you would like. But I will leave it up to the body.
Chair Furfaro: We will probably take a recess for that purpose.
Obviously as stated two (2) weeks ago, there is some urgency here because we need
to have a document in place to secure the State funds. I will be judging how many
questions we have, I will be planning on taking a recess so you can revisit the
wording with the two (2) Councilwomen.
Mr. Jung: Sure.
Mr. Rapozo: We have other license agreements with other non-
profits in the County, correct?
Mr. Jung: We do.
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Mr. Rapozo: The Historical Society down below... have we ran into any
problems that we know of... are we typically asking them to see how their
financials? I think number fourteen (14) is sufficient because it covers it. It says
including but not limited to. 990 — I agree with Councilmember Nakamura that it
is typically broad and you really cannot tell and I do not have a problem with doing
an amendment to add in financial... but again a financial statement may not be as
detailed as I think. Financial statement is really profits, losses, and it is not
itemized and I do not know if we need to go that detailed for this license but how do
we handle the other non-profits that lease from the County?
Mr. Jung: This is the first that I have seen this particular
request for the language. We did have in the YMCA license agreement that we can
go in and inspect the premises but given Council's discussion in the last meeting, we
wrote in that the Finance Director also has the ability to also inspect the financial
books. I did include that phrase and I am glad you put it out, that it is included but
not limited to... so it does give the Finance Director a bit of discretion in terms of
what he is going to request. But if say they decide not to hand over a certain
document then it could be an argument that they are in violation of license because
they are not turning over something that the Finance Director wants.
Mr. Rapozo: That is where I look at it, if they say "no, we are not
turning it over," then we can say "fine, we terminate the license and you are done."
That is the way I read it but we want to be more specific, I will leave that up to you
and your advice, it would not hurt to put it in.
Mr. Jung: Sure.
Mr. Rapozo: I was just curious about how we are handling all
the others within the County.
Mr. Jung: We have the Kaua`i Historical Society, we also have
the West Kaua`i Business Professional Association, as well as the Tech Center out
at Waimea. I did not see any language to that effect in those areas.
Mr. Rapozo: Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: But I think what we are saying here to close this
document we would like to have as suggested by Councilmember Nakamura a small
amendment to that language especially as we referenced the document 990, as well
as what would not be a profit and loss statement but a financial statement.
Mr. Kuali`i: I think one (1) of the reasons for the financial
accountability is that unlike any other lease that the County has, this lease is for
ninety-nine (99) years, so that is a long time. I think what Vice Chair Yukimura
was saying the last time was that even though we may have complete confidence
with everybody involved with the project today, that is going to change significantly
in fifty (50) years because most of us will not be here. I hope to be here. The
question I had and you answered it about the ninety-nine (99) years and stating
that it is a big investment — millions of dollars and that the construction of mason
(inaudible) materials means that the structure will last for a long time. Would that
not have been the same for the YMCA's lease and their lease was fifty (50) years
and so is the ninety-nine (99) year lease necessary, that term, that length because of
the State or Federal grants or funding that is being sought after?
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Mr. Jung: In looking at the actual State grant has not been
formulized yet. The action that was taken was House Bill 2012 was just the
appropriations of that, they got to run the documents and they got to... it is like the
grant agreement, I do not know if you guys remember for the acquisition for Black
Pot where you had to actually do the grant agreement. There are necessary steps
that you have to go through. I do not know whether or not there is going to be a
requirement for a license term of more than fifty (50) years but from what I... in
this particular negotiation between the Finance Director and the KPCC, they
wanted the term of ninety-nine (99) years. That was their negotiation but the way I
looked at it and I think Councilmember Yukimura may recall this for the shoreline
setback ordinance, there is a life structure of buildings between seventy (70) to a
hundred (100) years so there is that reference to seventy (70) to a hundred (100)
years. We linked it back to that rationale. It was up to the Finance Director to
identify the ninety-nine (99) year term in discussing that issue with KPCC.
Mr. Kuali`i: And as far as you can tell the Finance Director or
Administration would not have objections to tightening up the language for that
fiscal accountability as it is being talked about?
Mr. Jung: I do not think the Finance Director would have a
problem with that because I think his discretion and what is "included but not
limited to," he can interpret what it is. If you want to tighten it up with specific
standards, I do not see a problem.
Mr. Kuali`i: The other thing is on this fact sheet that you
handed out, it says that the total lot size is seven point one, three, three (7.133)
acres.
Mr. Jung: Correct.
Mr. Kuali`i: And then the lease that we are talking about is the
three point four, nine, one (3.491) acres, is that total lot seven point one, three,
three (7.133) County property?
Mr. Jung: It is and the YMCA facilities is on the other side.
Mr. Kuali`i: Oh, okay. So that is already spoken for in that fifty
(50) year lease with the YMCA?
Mr. Jung: Correct.
Mr. Kuali`i: So this is the remaining portion of that property.
In the market value of the parcel, the appraised amount of one point four million, is
that for the entire parcel or just the three point four, nine (3.49) acres?
Mr. Jung: The way I understood Real Property doing the
appraisal was for that portion of lot 1540, so this particular lease or licensed area.
Mr. Kuali`i: Okay.
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Chair Furfaro: I am going to take another recess so you can grasp
the amendment that has been suggested by Councilmember Nakamura.
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Ms. Yukimura: I have more questions. Item number twenty-two
(22) in the license, I have asked you this before but was there a reason that you
subdivided the use and occupancy obligations and in one (1) case you made the
licensee responsible to ensure action by the sub-licensee but in the other part you
did not. Because our main relationship is with the licensee, it seems to me that you
need the support of the licensee with respect to sub-licensee. I am just wondering
why you did not make the licensee obligated to make sure that the sub-licensee
would follow the obligations of the license agreement.
Mr. Jung: That is a good question. I think we highlighted
sections eleven (11) and twelve (12) solely for the liability purpose and ensuring
that they have the adequate insurance coverage just to ensure the County will be
held harmless and indemnified from any potential lawsuits or someone getting
injured on that property, that is why we specifically identified section eleven (11)
and twelve (12). The next sentence, "furthermore all other obligations of the
licensee to the County entered into this license shall apply to any sub-license," we
wanted to then specifically convert that you cannot treat people disparately under
race, sex, national origin — we wanted to make sure there was no... because it is
County property, we want to make sure that the sub-licensee would not
discriminate under those provisions and be bound by the remainder of the term.
Ms. Yukimura: If there is a violation by the sub-licensee, would the
County sue the sub-licensee and the licensee, or is the licensee going to just standby
while the County deals with the sub-licensee?
Mr. Jung: I think the intent of that particular provision is
that if the sub-licensee violates any terms of this particular document then we could
have grounds for ramification of the entire license itself. The licensee then has an
obligation to ensure that the sub-licensee follows the terms of the document and is
required to do and (inaudible) is set for.
Ms. Yukimura: Okay. So you do not see any need to make the
language like you do in the first part with respect to sections eleven (11) and twelve
(12)?
Mr. Jung: I do not think so.
Ms. Yukimura: Alright.
Mr. Jung: I wanted to specifically highlight sections eleven
(11) and twelve (12)just so we can avoid the liability concern.
Ms. Yukimura: Okay. This issue about being open and not
violating the constitutional protections regarding sex, orientation, natural origin,
age, race, color, religion, handicap, is it addressed anywhere else except section
three (3)?
Mr. Jung: It will be if you look at 22(c) and it is not
specifically identified in there but subject to grant requirements, because they will
be getting a grant from the State under HRS 42 (inaudible) which is their grant
provision of the codes, then they will have to abide by the State's requirements and
section 42(f) requires or has an anti-discrimination statement in there as well.
Ms. Yukimura: 42(f) is of what?
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Mr. Jung: Hawai`i Revised Statutes. And that is because...
we did not identify it specifically in here because that grant was not created yet but
when the State appropriates the money subject to HRS 42(f) then they will have to
enter into the grant process.
Ms. Yukimura: And 42(f) or any other HRS does not address the
hiring of staff or the use of volunteers or the delivery of client services?
Mr. Jung: Because they are a non-profit receiving State
money through the Legislative grant — the Legislative appropriation which leads to
the grant then they are going to be bound to specific provisions that they have to
incorporate into the grant agreement that is stated in HRS 42(f) and one (1) of those
is discrimination policy.
Ms. Yukimura: Right. Well I guess I am just asking why you are
mentioning it here in three (3) if you are not mentioning it for others and what if
they do not get the State grant but use other moneys instead?
Mr. Jung: We would still have for the County designation of
County property that we have section three to protect us.
Ms. Yukimura: But section three (3) does not apply to use of the
facility, it applies to hiring of staff, use of volunteers, and delivery of client services.
Mr. Jung: If you go back to and maybe if you look at... and
you got to incorporate by reference here, what I did here is... if you look on page
three (3) of the actual document, paragraph one (1).
Ms. Yukimura: What actual document?
Mr. Jung: The license agreement.
Ms. Yukimura: Okay.
Mr. Jung: It says, "the Kaua`i Philippine Cultural Center
shall be operated as represented in the Articles of Incorporation of Kauai
Philippine Cultural Center in Section four (4). Powers and purpose of its articles of
incorporation dated "filed 02/15/2011"." But if you look at the Articles of
Incorporation — we linked it to that date so that they are held to that page, just so
you know. There are four (4) provisions there and number three (3) is open and
encourage in the... I think I sent to you this document?
Ms. Yukimura: You did.
Mr. Jung: It is paragraph three (3) open and encourage all
ethnic groups and organizations uses of this facility.
Ms. Yukimura: Okay but that is not the explicit protection of
constitutional rights for use of the facility and I wondered why you would not
include that too if you are going to include it as far as hiring of staff and use of
volunteers.
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Mr. Jung: In terms of letting others use the property at a
reasonable fee, they state in the Articles of Incorporation that they are not going to
be bias against any particular ethnic group but if you are concerned about having
some bias against a particular ethnic group, we could certainly write it in there.
Ms. Yukimura: I am not concerned that is why I am not worried
about having a provision that states clearly what the constitution requires. I do
recognize that the use of reasonable fees, that really does have to be worked out in
the future, I do not expect that it is going to be administered by race or class or
sexual orientation or anything like that, that is why it just seems like a normal
boilerplate that we would put in County documents p oc menu and why would we not?
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Mr. Jung: It is inherent in the law that they cannot
discriminate but for the use... for them hiring... to have an anti-discrimination
clause that they hire, we want to protect that if the County gets the liability to the
County alone but if there are practices, if they are going to discriminate when
someone... if they choose to not let or let someone use the property for a fee and
discriminate on that basis, they could be held to a constitutional basis against them
too. I guess I am not following your question, our concern is who they hire so the
people cannot come back that have gotten hired using County land to come back
and say the County owns the land, these guys operate the facility, they hired them
on a race class basis — discrimination basis, so they are going to come back and
hit... that was the concern.
Ms. Yukimura: But violation of rights as to use of property is going
to incur the same kind of liability on us too. If it is a constitutional violation, it will
have the same kind of allegations against the County or right to collect against the
County. It would create that same kind of liability?
Mr. Jung: Arguably but if we are going to start...
Ms. Yukimura: Arguably?
Mr. Jung: I think if we are going to start discussing liability
then maybe we should reserve that for Executive Session because I do not want
to...
Ms. Yukimura: Well the question is would a (inaudible) p hrase
about not violating use of the facility not violating constitutional protected rights,
would that incur a liability on the... an extra liability on the County? Would the
requirement not for the licensee actually be a protection for the County?
Mr. Jung: It would and I think we could argue that under
paragraph three (3) that the delivery of client services would be the use of the
facility and that could inherently protect the County. I guess I am not following
your trail of thought in terms of where you want to protect the County outside
client services.
Ms. Yukimura: Okay. I do not want to belabor this if nobody else
has a concern, all I am asking is why do you explicitly talk about hiring of staff and
use of volunteers when you do not talk about the use of the facility? But if your
intention is delivery of client services and that is... I am not sure how you are
interpreting that, if that is your intention that that means use of the facility then
let it be said on the record.
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Mr. Jung: I believe that is the intention of why we crafted the
language that way, just because the delivery of the client services is the actual
usage of the facility.
Ms. Yukimura: So then you are telling me that my concerns are
covered?
Mr. Jung: Yes but it seems... I guess I am not following your
frame of thinking.
Ms. Yukimura: I am sorry I am not clear, I thought it was just a
broilerplate for a County or State to do that is all.
Mr. Jung: It would cover for the use of the facility but in
terms of... well, I will leave it at that.
Ms. Yukimura: Okay, thank you. Now, my other question - are you
able to speak about the skateboard park?
Mr. Jung: I did speak with Lenny Rapozo, our Parks Director
and he is going to work within the Administration to identify a new location and as
I stated in our responses and in talking to Lenny, they are looking at... and in just
discussion, no formal plan or site plans or anything like that, we are looking at
Nawiliwili Park up by the War Memorial — Vidinha Stadium and possibly another
location. They are looking at alternative sites but no formal plans have been
identified and no specific plans have come up for this particular location, it has just
been dialog regarding whether or not skate parks should be in this license site.
Ms. Yukimura: If you would just go back to the Administration, my
understanding is that that was the identified site or at least the young people were
told that and we just need to make good on our commitment to them. I am not
saying that this should be... I see the Philippine Cultural Center is... this is the site
for that but I would like to ask the Administration to move with all due speed for a
skateboard park in Lihu`e for the young people.
Mr. Jung: Sure.
Ms. Yukimura: And some of the alternatives sound like they have
possibility but we need to take it from possibility to some actual action.
Mr. Jung: Sure.
Ms. Yukimura: Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: I would also would like you to say to the
Administration that in the near future, question number twelve (12) on this
particular piece will be agenda as a Planning item in the future. So that we can
have question number twelve (12)...
Ms. Yukimura: Question number twelve (12)?
Chair Furfaro: Question number twelve (12) was the question we
sent over on the skateboard park and that will be on the agenda in a future meeting
and you can share that with the Administration.
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Mr. Jung: Okay.
Mr. Kuali`i: I actually share some of the concerns Vice Chair
was talking about because I have heard from some constituents and it is basically
the idea of a public purpose and I am wondering if it is mentioned anywhere else
other than in the point number one (1) on page three (3) where it basically says,
"this license shall be designated for community and cultural use," and then at the
end I see in 22(d) the very last page, page nine (9) it says, "licensee shall allow the
general public the use of the facility," and then it talks about use by the County and
then it says, "for the use of the County there will be a reasonable fee schedule." I
am curious if this language means there could be a set of fees for the general public
and then a different set of fees for the County. I am thinking the County is the
general public, the citizens are the tax payers and this investment of one point four
(1.4) million dollars and three point five (3.5) acres and ninety-nine (99) years is the
biggest investment of its kind that this County has ever made to a non-profit. It is a
good thing, I am going to support it wholeheartedly but I think we have to be
responsible to the citizens to ensure that they really are going to have access to this
place because they are paying for it. Does public purpose and the guarantee of
public purpose show up anywhere else other than I just saw it? I have not gone
through this word for word, I am not an attorney but that is what I see and tell
me...
Mr. Jung: The community park and cultural area will be open
to the public and I think the... according to the Articles of Incorporation and
discussions that I sat in with members of KPCC, their intent is to create somewhat
of a museum there in the hall which is going to be open to the public. The usage fee
is for events or gatherings where people can come together and rent out the facility
to hold an event or gathering whether it be a graduation party or something to the
like. At that point, they are going to establish a reasonable schedule in terms of
how they are going to associate the fees for that usage. It is hard to build into this
document what that rate will be because they do not know the operational cost yet.
Mr. Kuali`i: But that what you just said, the part about the
cultural park area and the museum, is that written in here and is that free to the
public? Can they come in and learn about the Filipino culture and go into this
cultural park area and go into this museum for free?
Mr. Jung: It is not written into the document yet because the
site plan has not been developed yet. If you want to get someone up here...
Mr. Kuali`i: I am just saying that it is two (2) separate things?
Mr. Jung: It is two (2) separate things.
Mr. Kuali`i: Usage of the facility is renting out a room to have a
meeting or a workshop or whatever, maybe a party, but the cultural park area and
the museum, that would be for public purpose would be open to the public, anyone
from the public for free?
Mr. Jung: That is how I understood it.
Mr. Kuali`i: Okay. That is good to hear and I just think that I
am hearing it from you but I do not know if it is written in the document anywhere.
Maybe there is an addendum narrative or something more and we will hear more
from the organizers but that was my concern which I heard from people.
COUNCIL MEETING 20 JULY 25, 2012
Mr. Jung: Sure.
Chair Furfaro: Vice Chair Yukimura, I am not going to recognize
you now because you have got to speak twice already. Is there any other members
that would like to speak first?
Mr. Rapozo: Ian, the only question I have as far as the setting of
the fees, I remember some discussion recently on other issues where the fees for
public uses must be set by the Council and I am asking our staff to try to look that
up in the Charter. I cannot remember if that is a Charter provision or not but
would this qualify or does this license provide the authority to setting the fees by
KPCC?
Mr. Jung: That is an interesting question because I think we
are in a public/private partnership situation...
Mr. Rapozo: Well I think because it is public land, I think we
would be bound by the same provision as if it was a private building.
Mr. Jung: I would have to look that up. I do not know the
answer.
Mr. Rapozo: We are looking it up now, I did not want to lose my
opportunity to ask a question over here but we will also look it up but I believe that
we may be required to approve the fee structure here and maybe if you can take a
quick look at that on the recess, that would be appreciated.
Chair Furfaro: Any other questions before I go back to
Councilmember Yukimura and I do want to point note on fees, they will require
from their Board periodic reviews as cost, operational expenses, go up so the
question is do we have the right to be setting a fee and then at what time of year
would that suggested fee schedule be submitted going forward?
Ms. Nakamura: Just a follow up on Councilmember Kuali`i's
discussion about the fees. Is there in here any discussion how do you define a
reasonable fee?
Mr. Jung: The reasonable is a legal standard and to keep
the... without getting into the nuts and bolts of details in this simple use (inaudible)
document, we do not want to start... I would hate to use the word clutter but I hate
cluttering the document with specifics that can be worked out especially because of
the duration of the license. Because it is ninety-nine (99) years, it is hard to
identify what cost would be in the future in terms of electricity and whatnot.
Ms. Nakamura: We are not going to know what the reasonable fee
until more detailed business plans are or development plans, operating plans, and
business plans are done which would be probably several years out. So it is
premature —this language is a general so that it gets us to the next — that moves us
along because at some point in time someone is going to have to make a
determination of what is reasonable.
Mr. Jung: Yes.
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Ms. Nakamura: And I guess the question is at that time who takes
the lead on determining that?
Mr. Jung: I am going to have to go back and take a look at
this because the YMCA sets a fee for the use of their facility and I am not sure if
Council set that fee.
Ms. Yukimura: No, we do not.
Ms. Nakamura: Thank you for your responses to the questions, I
know my questions got answered and incorporated into this.
Mr. Bynum: (inaudible) I was thinking about them when you
described because they have a museum, public use, they set fees and I do not know
who owns the land... I am just curious.
Mr. Jung: I have been told the Vet Center they actually own
their land, so their fees are quite expensive from what I heard.
Ms. Yukimura: You need to research this but I think a fact of a
license and I hope that the fact of a license is a separation that does not require the
County Council to set fees. That is what we are trying to get it through a
public/private partnership. I am also thinking that it might be reasonable to set
fees for a museum entrance because you are going to have to upkeep the museum. I
do not know that open to the public means no fees but it does mean something
about easily accessible or affordable to the general public and I do think that the
Kaua`i Philippine Cultural Center Board is really trying to be responsible and think
about how they are going to have a sustainable facility there and that is why they
are doing a feasibility study and they will be more understanding of how fees will be
set and what kinds of issues will come up after they do that feasibility study. It is
right not to unduly constrict that process but to set some bottom lines about
affordability because we are putting public resources, land and State money into it
and because it is so long term and the good hearted people of integrity will not be
around in fifty (50) years necessarily and so how we are going to keep some checks
and balances on track.
There being no objections, the meeting was called back to order, and
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proceeded as follows:
Chair Furfaro: Members, I would like to point out earlier in our
discussion, it was Councilmember Yukimura's suggestion that we enter some
commentary on financial reporting and then it was Councilmember Nakamura who
had made some offer on the verbiage that could be used for that. My intent right
now would be to allow a ten (10) minute recess so that the two (2) Councilmembers
can consult with the County Attorney on that verbiage and offer an amendment
that we can put on when we come back from recess.
There being no objections, the Council recessed at 10:59 a.m.
The Council reconvened at 11:12 a.m., and proceeded as follows:
Chair Furfaro: I am going to make some assumptions here. The
fact that the County Attorney is working on the modified financial reporting, we are
going onto the next item for now which is the item dealing with the Prosecutor's
Office and their application for the grant.
COUNCIL MEETING 22 JULY 25, 2012
C 2012-225 Communication (06/26/2012) from the Prosecuting Attorney,
requesting Council approval to apply for, receive, and expend federal funds from the
S.T.O.P. Violence Against Women Grant for the Domestic Violence Prosecution Unit
(DVPU) in the amount of $47,903.00, and to approve the indemnification of the
State of Hawai`i, Department of the Attorney General. Funding received will be
expended on salaries/wages and supplies for the DVPU for the term commencing
July 1, 2013 to June 30, 2014: Mr. Rapozo moved to approve C 2012-225, seconded
by Ms. Nakamura.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
Chair Furfaro: The questions that were surfaced by Vice Chair
Yukimura were not presented because we waited for opportunity to have you here.
Ms. Yukimura: Thank you so much for being here and for the
information that you provided. This is a Domestic Violence Prosecution Program
which is very important to all of us and we are pleased to see the Prosecuting
Attorney's Office pursuing grants like this. This grant will be primarily as I read it
for an Attorney position for a one (1) year period? And it was interesting to see your
performance measures which you will be tracking the number of Domestic Violence
cases and protective order violations received from KPD and you have given some of
the history of that and then you will be also measuring number percentage of
domestic violence cases and protective order violation screened and charged or
declined within of thirty (30) days of receipt and then the number of domestic
violence cases and protective order violations that are vertically prosecuted and
number and percentage of domestic violence and protective order violations
resulting in convictions. I was interested in past grant and performance and I had
asked for that information and you have responded that the 2009 request is yet to
be expended... no, actually the report is not complete for 2009.
JAMIE CHONG, Grant Coordinator: The 2009 moneys have just been — the
grant has just expired on July 30 so it takes thirty (30) days for us to do the report,
so we have not done the report yet.
Ms. Yukimura: Okay. My confusion is if I am looking at the right
one...
Ms. Chong: The fiscal years do not match the years that the
grants are going through the process. Like this application is for fiscal year eleven
(11) moneys. They do not match up. I believe at the AG's Office, the grants run for
four (4) periods — four (4) years and so it just depends on when we expend the funds
and how quickly we expend the funds that the new grant starts, so the fiscal years
do not match up.
Ms. Yukimura: So this 2009 grant which is the first grant you gave
us a copy, it says, "project period is September 2010 to February 2011..."
Ms. Chong: Those are the intended dates. The applications are
due on a certain time so we have to kind of coincide when the application is due to
when the project is expected to take place. It does not necessarily mean that the
project starts on that date. Sometimes we have no cost extensions from previous
grants if all the funds have not been expended, so it just goes consecutively but not
necessarily matching the dates that the application is intended.
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Ms. Yukimura: Okay, so what were the dates of expenditure for
this grant that says project period 2010 to February 2011?
Ms. Chong: You have to match that with the project. I would
have to go back and check with it. I did provide stats for the years that you
requested which was 2010 and 2011. I did not do the conviction rates but I do have
the conviction rates here for 2011.
Your question one (1) was for years 2010 and 2011, what is the number of
domestic violence cases and protective order violations that are vertically
prosecuted? For fiscal year 2010, there were two hundred twenty-seven (227) DV
cases that were vertically prosecuted and thirty-nine (39) TRO cases that were
vertically p rosecuted.
Ms. Yukimura: When ou say, "fiscal y y, a year 2010," you mean
January 2010?
Ms. Chong: Right, I am sorry, calendar year.
Ms. Yukimura: And this is the... but this does not correlate to the
expenditure year?
Ms. Chong: No. Sometime grants start September 15th and
then they will end April 30th. Because of the amount of money, sometimes it does
not necessarily go throughout the whole year. These are formula grants and for
STOP VAWA grants we get about between forty-five (45) and forty-seven thousand
dollars ($47,000.00). So it does not necessarily take us throughout the whole year
and it depends on the types of cases that the Attorneys have. The amount that we
have is not enough to cover the whole year salary for our attorneys and we also do
have the attorneys doing other work. For this particular grant that is up right now
for approval, the salary for the Special Prosecuting Attorney is at a 0.6fte which
means that the Prosecutor will spend sixty percent (60%) of the time doing DV
cases and TRO cases and the other percentage of the time doing other cases as
assigned by the Prosecutor.
Ms. Yukimura: But it is still a year's period but he works sixty
percent (60%).
Ms. Chong: Right and it just depends, it fluctuates, it depends
how much work comes in for that Prosecutor to do... we might do a budget
adjustment, it might change, they might have to increase it therefore the grant
period would shorten and we would then submit budget modification to the AG's
Office requesting that the grant period be shortened. And the increase... and the
salary that is covered by the grant will increase, so it just depends on what is
coming in and the work that the Prosecutor is doing at the time.
Ms. Yukimura: The statistics you shown us is 2010....
Ms. Chong: Calendar year.
Ms. Yukimura: Yes. Well how many cases were received in 2010?
Three hundred and six (306), is that right?
Ms. Chong: Yes. Those are the amount of reports that were
received.
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Ms. Yukimura: Okay, and the amount of...
Ms. Chong: Of cases that were...
Ms. Yukimura: ...screened, charged, or declined within thirty (30)
days was two hundred and two (202)? It is in your application.
Ms. Chong: Yes.
Ms. Yukimura: So, for us it is (c)2012-225 page three (3). Is it not
two hundred and two (202)?
Ms. Chong: Yes.
Ms. Yukimura: And then the vertically prosecuted, you just gave
us was two hundred twenty-seven (227)?
Ms. Chong: Right, the reports that were submitted.
Ms. Yukimura: And the conviction rate was...
Ms. Chong: For 2010, it was ninety-eight percent (98%).
Ms. Yukimura: Okay, is that of the percentage that went to trial?
Ms. Chong: Yes. The case is closed.
Ms. Yukimura: The percentage that went to trial?
JAKE DELAPLANE, First Deputy Prosecuting Attorney: No, it is not the
cases that actually went to trial. It is the cases that we... those cases that are in
the conviction rates, all of them do not necessarily go to trial. We do keep track of
the number that goes to trial and the dispositions of each but they do include people
that plead guilty or plead no contest to charges.
Ms. Yukimura: Okay. Can you follow up and I do not think it will
stop the approval of the grant today but I just... how many plead guilty, how many
no contest, and then how many went to trial?
Mr. Delaplane: Yes.
Ms. Yukimura: For 2011.
Ms. Chong: I have it here. For 2011, the conviction rate for
domestic violence cases.
Ms. Yukimura: Wait, start with the number received. I have three,
three, and two (332). Is that right?
Ms. Chong: The number of reports received, yes.
Ms. Yukimura: And the number that were screened charged or
declined within thirty (30) days was a hundred and three (103)?
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Ms. Chong: Yes.
Ms. Yukimura: And then you have the vertical prosecuted?
Ms. Chong: The amount that was prosecuted, right. And then
the conviction for 2011 for domestic violence cases it was ninety-nine point one,
seven percent (99.17%) or a hundred twenty (120) out of a hundred twenty-one (121)
cases. For the protective orders, it was ninety-five point eight, three percent
(95.83%) or twenty-three (23) out of the twenty-four (24) cases were conviction.
Ms. Yukimura: And this is your 2011 statistics?
Ms. Chong: Yes.
Ms. Yukimura: And you are reading from something that we do not
have, right?
Ms. Chong: Yes, I am sorry.
Ms. Yukimura: Can you submit that?
Ms. Chong: Yes.
Ms. Yukimura: And then 2012, we are still in the middle of it.
Ms. Chong: Yes.
Ms. Yukimura: As a follow up, can you breakdown that years down
to plead guilty and no contest, and trial? And in the trial information, how many
convictions and I do not know what other alternatives there are but you guys know
that. You are setting some high goals for turnaround then, right? Which I love
aiming high, we just talked with the Koloa School Principle about aiming high and
your goal is... what is your goal? So, you have goals and objectives... so your goal is
to screen ninety-five percent (95%) of all domestic violence cases including
protective order violations within thirty (30) days of receipt. Okay, good that you
have that goal. Just so I am clear, you say that the project period is from July 1,
2013 to June 30, 2014, but you will get word of this money and the money will be
awarded to you when?
Ms. Chong: This is a formula grant so the moneys are actually
already available. However, we have not expended the fiscal year 2010 STOP
VAWA g rant.
Ms. Yukimura: But you could use it for... that is interesting... you
could use it for this year if you want to?
Ms. Chong: Well, not while we already have... not while we are
in current contract right now.
Ms. Yukimura: Yes, you have to use up the money you have first.
Ms. Chong: Right. So as soon as we use up that money then
this grant will be able to start.
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Ms. Yukimura: Can you use the money for other things in domestic
violence prosecution which may be bottlenecks? And I do not know what the
bottlenecks might be? Well actually, what your bottleneck looks like to be is
turning cases around within thirty (30) days.
Mr. Delaplane: That is actually is not the bottleneck that we are
reading, I think you are referring to the discrepancy between the number of case,
these reports received and then the number that is screened and charged.
Ms. Yukimura: Right.
Mr. Delaplane: There is also an additional number that is included
in that calculation which are cases that are declined prosecution, so that statistic of
screened and charged means cases that we actually brought forward to charges.
We have monthly meetings with each of our units with the domestic violence unit
and all the other units that we operate in our office and we make sure our screen is
up to date. In most of our units, we are up to date especially in the domestic
violence unit because those cases are so volatile and they are so important, we are
almost always meeting our goals as far as meeting that thirty (30) day standard
turnaround once we get the screening.
Ms. Yukimura: That is excellent. What we need is the cases
declined then?
Mr. Delaplane: Yes and we can provide that. That is actually in
the sheet that we have today, so we can provide that to you.
Ms. Yukimura: Okay, very good. I would just like to show what I
tried to figure out and I am sure I... so, I was using the grant periods and I found
eight (8) months gaps because we have three (3) grant applications, the
September 10 — the one at the top is the 2009, I think. This is the 2010 grant and
this is the 2012 grant.
Ms. Chong: There was... this grant was a little complicated, we
had ARRA funds that was also granted to us and what happened to us was we kind
of stopped mid-process because we had to expend the ARRA funds first. We started
out with one (1) regular STOP violence grant. When the AG's Office realized that
we were awarded ARRA funds that we needed to expend, we stopped that regular
STOP VAWA grant, started on the ARRA funds so that we were able to expend it
within the time period that they had, and then we went back and used the rest of
the funding that we had from the previous grants. So it was a chopped up period.
Ms. Yukimura: And that ARRA grant for the public's
understanding was the stimulus moneys that came from the President, the Federal
Government to create jobs and they had pretty vigorous deadlines and so it made
sense that you use those moneys first.
Ms. Chong: Yes.
Ms. Yukimura: Thank you. I think I have... I think we all have a
clear picture of the grant process on domestic violence. I do not have any problem
with approving it but I would like to get the follow up statistics especially if they
show you looking better than ever.
COUNCIL MEETING 27 JULY 25, 2012
Chair Furfaro: We will get some finalized questions over to you,
Jake.
Mr. Bynum: These are grants that you had for some time,
correct?
Ms. Chong: Yes.
Mr. Bynum: There is no substantive changes in this grant year
in terms of scope of services, you are going to keep doing the things that you have
been doing?
Ms. Chong: Right.
Mr. Bynum: That is all.
Ms. Yukimura: Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: Jake, these are seventy-five (75) / twenty-five (25)
match grants?
Ms. Chong: Yes, the STOP VAWA grants, yes.
Chair Furfaro: Thank you.
Mr. Kuali`i: It appears that your Department is actually doing
a pretty good job at identifying grants and taking... helping fund operations with
grants in addition to County funds and taxpayer moneys, do you have any sense of
what percentage of your total operations is being paid for by grants — different
grants like this? It would be interesting to know. You can go and find out.
Mr. Delaplane: Over the past two (2) years it has been a steady
decline.
Mr. Kuali`i: It is declining?
Mr. Delaplane: Yes. During last year budget presentation, I think
I had a graph and I can actually give that to you and it would be current as of last
year and I think we can add in what we had this year but it is kind of slim pickings
out there for grants and it is... there were quite a few grant moneys available for
law enforcement probably over the past decade but we have seen a slow decline in
that. We are having to be more creative and really look hard for the opportunities
and Jamie does a great job doing that for us. Whatever grant moneys are out there,
whatever ways that we can find to screen our operations and become more efficient
and serve the public better, we are out there trying to do it.
Chair Furfaro: Any other questions?
Mr. Rapozo: Jamie, how long has the OPA been beneficiaries or
recipients of the STOP Violence grant?
Ms. Chong: I think it goes back the 1990's.
Mr. Rapozo: Right, so this is the same grant that we receive
every year?
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Ms. Chong: Yes. Formula grants, so every year...
Mr. Rapozo: Well, one of them.
Ms. Chong: Right, one of them.
Mr. Rapozo: I just wanted to simplify for the viewing public
because it could be construed as a complicated grant but really what this grant does
is it pays for sixty percent (60%) of an Attorney's salary to work on domestic
violence cases/TRO cases?
Ms. Chong: Yes.
Mr. Rapozo: And these Attorneys, whoever that Attorney may
be, their salaries — their position is really subject to the approval of this grant.
Ms. Chong: Yes.
Mr. Rapozo: Because we do not have the County funding to pay
for that sixty percent (60%) should we not approve that grant. In essence, we are...
what this grant does, it allows the OPA to continue staffing that Attorney so that
that Attorney can work and at least for sixty percent (60%) of the time on domestic
violence cases and TRO cases.
Ms. Chong: Yes.
Mr. Rapozo: Now, that does not prevent this Attorney from
working on domestic violence and TRO cases a hundred percent (100%) of his or
her time, it is just the funding from this grant requires a sixty percent (60%)
function with that Division, if you will.
Ms. Chong: Yes.
Chair Furfaro: Jamie, thank you very much for all of your very
specific work that you have done and reporting.
Ms. Yukimura: If you get these moneys and the case load goes
above the sixty percent (60%) time then you can use these moneys that are
available right to fund that?
Ms. Chong: Right, I would do a budget modification and
probably lessen the amount of time.
Ms. Yukimura: So, it is great that you have this buffer of kind of
future moneys in case you exceed it right now because of whatever...
Ms. Chong: Right. You can always start it sooner.
Ms. Yukimura: Excellent, thank you.
Chair Furfaro: Thank you for that explanation, Jamie. I am going
to go ahead and excuse both of you. Thank you for coming over.
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There being no objections, the meeting was called back to order, and
proceeded as follows:
The motion to approve C 2012-225 was then put, and unanimously carried.
COMMITTEE REPORTS:
PLANNING COMMITTEE REPORT:
A report (No. CR-PL 2012-04) submitted by the Planning Committee,
recommending that the following be received for the record:
"PL 2012-01 Communication (06/29/2012) from Committee Chair
Nakamura, requesting the presence of the Planning Director to provide
an overview on the Planning Department's FY 2009-10 to 2014-2015
Capital Improvement Program Report (6-year CIP), including, but not limited
to, the process for implementation and management of the Planning
Department's CIP Projects,"
Mr. Bynum moved for approval of the report, seconded by Mr. Kuali`i, and
unanimously carried.
HOUSING/TRANSPORTATION/ENERGY CONSERVATION & EFFICIENCY
COMMITTEE REPORT:
A report (No. HTE 2012-09) submitted by the Housing / Transportation /
Energy Conservation & Efficiency Committee, recommending that the following be
received for the record:
"HTE 2012-12 Communication (06/26/2012) from Committee
Chair Yukimura, requesting agenda time to provide a presentation from the
11th Annual New Partners for Smart Growth Conference, held on February 2-
4, 2012 in San Diego, California, regarding progressive trends in State
transportation policy,"
Mr. Kuali`i moved for approval of the report, seconded by Ms. Yukimura, and
unanimously carried.
PUBLIC SAFETY & ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES COMMITTEE REPORT:
A report (No. PSE 2012-06) submitted by the Public Safety & Environmental
Services Committee, recommending that the following be received for the record:
"PSE 2012-04 Communication (05/25/2012) from Committee
Chair Rapozo, requesting the presence of the Civil Defense Manager to
provide a further update on the County's response to the recent storm
and flooding on Kaua`i and the federal declaration of April 18, 2012,"
Mr. Kuali`i moved for approval of the report, seconded by Ms. Yukimura, and
unanimously carried.
RESOLUTIONS:
COUNCIL MEETING 30 JULY 25, 2012
Resolution No. 2012-49, RESOLUTION CONFIRMING MAYORAL
APPOINTMENT TO THE SALARY COMMISSION (Jo Ann Shimamoto):
Mr. Bynum moved to adopt Resolution No. 2012-49, seconded by Ms. Yukimura.
Mr. Chang: I just wanted to say thank you to Jo Ann for
stepping up as a volunteer after her retirement, just another example of community
members wanting to be involved as a volunteer. I just want to say aloha to Jo Ann.
The motion to adopt Resolution No. 2012-49, was then put, and carried by the
following vote:
FOR ADOPTION: Bynum, Chang, Kuali`i, Nakamura, Rapozo,
Yukimura, Furfaro TOTAL— 7,
AGAINST ADOPTION: None TOTAL— 0,
EXCUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0,
RECUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— O.
Resolution No. 2012-50, RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING 10 MPH SPEED
LIMIT FOR WA'A ROAD, LIHU`E DISTRICT, COUNTY OF KAUAI: Mr. Kuali`i
moved to adopt Resolution No. 2012-50, seconded by Ms. Yukimura.
Ms. Yukimura: I have a floor amendment which has been
circulated because the map that is attached shows fifteen (15) miles an hour even
though the wording in the Resolution says ten (10).
Ms. Yukimura moved to amend Resolution No. 2012-50 as circulated, as
shown in the Floor Amendment which is attached hereto as Attachment 1,
seconded by Mr. Bynum.
Chair Furfaro: Just for some clarification to the Clerk, this map
that first came over to us came from the Highways Roads Division? Could you make
sure they realize that they sent us a map that does not jive with the Resolution?
And also put in there in the future that is unacceptable.
The motion to amend Resolution No. 2012-50 was then put, and unanimously
carried.
The motion to adopt Resolution No. 2012-50 as amended was then put, and
carried by the following vote:
FOR ADOPTION: Bynum, Chang, Kuali`i, Nakamura, Rapozo,
Yukimura, Furfaro TOTAL— 7,
AGAINST ADOPTION: None TOTAL — 0,
EXCUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0,
RECUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0.
There being no objections, the Council recessed at 11:39 a.m.
The Council reconvened at 11:45 a.m., and proceeded as follows:
Chair Furfaro: You have an amendment to the license to share
with us.
Mr. Jung: Again, good morning Council Chair, members of the
Council. After meeting with Councilmember Yukimura and Nakamura, we looked
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at doing a total of four (4) amendments on pages three (3), six (6), and eight (8)
respectively. I will walk you through them. I did do it in ramseyer format with
highlights for easy readability, but just for the purpose of this amendment, if the
document is executed, we are going to get rid of the ramseyer. If you look on page
three (3) at the top there, there is another typo of which my English teacher at
Kapa'a would kill me for. We got rid of the word "the," and then in paragraph three
orated some of Councilmember Yukimura's concern regarding(3) we incorporated g g the use
of the facility so we just added a fourth clause there saying — getting rid of "or
delivery" and then we have "delivery of client services, or use of the facility." We
attempt to cover all of our basis there.
Mr. Chang: Ian, can you repeat that again?
Mr. Jung: On page three (3), the first amendment is in
paragraph one (1) on the top line of on page three (3). We are eliminating the word
"the" on the top there and then on page three (3) we are eliminating "or after
volunteers," and we are adding a comma after services to include language "or use
of the facility." On page six (6) in paragraph fourteen (14) in the last sentence there
where it says, "including but not limited to all tax filings" and the new language
reads "and annual financial reports, concerning the operation of the facility." And
on page eight (8) under paragraph twenty-two (22) (b) public usage, Councilmember
Rapozo did pick out another typo for us and that is subject to reasonable hours. I
would like to thank the staff for helping me get this out so quickly.
Chair Furfaro: They are pretty good over here, thank you for
recognizing that. Questions for Mr. Jung? Mr. Jung, I think we are good. May I
ask the members of the Board of Directors of the organization, do they have copies?
Mr. Jung: I did pass it out to the Board.
Chair Furfaro: Based on those amendments, I would like to see if I
can get that approved first and then I will call up for testimony.
There being no objections, the meeting was called back to order, and
proceeded as follows:
Mr. Rapozo moved to amend C 2012-227 as circulated, as shown in the Floor
Amendment which is attached hereto as Attachment 2, seconded by
Mr. Chang, and unanimously carried.
Mr. Bynum: I appreciate the patience to do due diligence and to
be able to make these changes today, thank you, Mr. Jung and the County
Attorney's Office. I just want to really thank the Kaua`i Philippine Cultural Center
leadership for putting this together. As I said at the beginning of this, there has
been efforts to do similar things on Kauai a number of times in the past. I have
been on Committees where we explored things and it did not happen and I believe
that this is the right group with the commitment and expertise to pull it off. It has
happened quicker than I expected so I want to compliment you. In terms of the
earlier discussion, I understand the intention, I also understand that I read
somewhere in all of these documents the intention to use block build that has a
building life that extends the building life above what the sixty, seventy years of
wood construction is put at and so the term of the lease seems appropriate and I
just think that this is kind of a momentous movement and I wish you all the best of
luck going forward.
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Mr. Chang: From the very beginning, the Filipino community
took the lead and took charge of"let us go for it." But right from the very beginning,
the logo or the cry to the community was that it is a place for all. Mr. Bulatao was
here with a shirt, he turned around and wanted to make sure everybody saw that it
was a place for all, that is what the logo says. I want to just say to the community
that everybody is welcome regardless of race, color, what have you and so that is a
given. Number two (2), I just want to say when members asked what the fee
structure, can we afford this or that, for myself personally I have always thought
that how do you get any fee structure at this point when we do not even know what
it takes to build, what is the electricity, what is it going to cost? How do you do
something... how do you compare what the Veterans Center is doing or what the
Convention Center is doing and how do you play a fair game and if you price
something and you are obligated to stick to that price, it might not offset expenses.
I think at this point any business man would say if we break even, we break even.
Should that not be the fair goal? If we pay our expenses and you mark it up ten
percent (10%) — I do not know, I just think it is too early to give any educated guess
as to what you are going to charge. I would rather see the place in operation being
built and talk about these things and have different structures for the children,
seniors and then there may be corporate America that comes in that need to rent
out the facility, if it is a media center or a convention for a speaking group
organization that can afford and would be willing to rent this for for-profit venue
itself. I just want to say for myself, I think it is very premature to ask or to say
"this is what it is going to cost," let us just figure out what the dynamics and the
diversity of the whole thing.is going to be and then we can set a fee. I just want to
remind the whole community and thank all of you guys for sticking forward. We
should all understand that there is no discrimination, everybody can use it, and it is
going to be a great addition and facility not just for Kaua`i but for the State.
Mr. Kuali`i: I too want to thank the leadership of the Kaua`i
Philippine Cultural Center and the entire Board. This is a significant move for our
community and I think it is important that we perpetuate the Filipino culture.
Ninety-nine (99) years lease of one point four (1.4) million dollar land investment by
the County is a really big deal and I just want the community to recognize that and
that we are all in it together and that this is a good thing to support. Some concern
that I did hear was to ensure that there is a public purpose and that all people will
be invited to participate and experience and learn about the Filipino culture
whether it is a museum or library or whatever form that it does take. I do think
that while it is too soon to determine fees, it is not too soon to commit to making it
accessable and affordable to everyone. A lot of our working class families come from
very minimal needs and any kind of fee just to view... and I know you will think
about that because that is who we are, we grew up in the Plantation Camps and we
are the working families and the fee has to be low enough so that everybody has the
opportunity. A lot of the non-profit organizations even in their membership right,
they have a membership fee of twenty-five dollars ($25.00) a year or something and
they also have the clause that says no one denied membership or no one denied
access because of financial difficulties. They could make a petition to say I want to
participate, I cannot afford it and that you will allow them as well. I know you will
consider those things. I just want to thank you for all your work and for bringing it
to this place and congratulations on the moneys you already received — you are
getting through the Legislature and I know that this lease will help you use it as
leverage for going after even additional money. I wish you the very best.
Mr. Rapozo: I just want to say that Honolulu has a Filipino
Cultural Center up in Waipahu and I have been able to use that facility for different
functions and it works really well for the entire community. I expect the same of
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this facility once it is constructed. Realizing that this will not happen overnight,
the license gives ten (10) years to get to substantial completion and hopefully we
will see it a lot sooner but the reality is that it will be a wonderful asset for the
entire community and I have total trust in the KPCC that it will happen. I can
remember at the Filipino Chamber of Commerce, it was the inauguration speech of
Lester where he called a unification of all the Filipino groups to come together for
this one purpose to finally realize the dream of having a Filipino Cultural Center. I
cannot tell you how long before that the seed was planted by others but I know that
night the unification call was made and I am sure there were many people in the
audience that were skeptical but today we are here at phase one (1) and the County
is making a huge investment which I fully support. Now, the ball is in your court to
get it done. I am proud to be here today, I cannot wait for that building to be
constructed and I cannot wait to be one of the users of that facility.
Congratulations on this first phase — we are at first base and now we got to circle
the bases and come home. Good luck.
Ms. Nakamura: I think Ian Jung said it right that this is a
public/private community partnership. I want to just recognize KPCC, the vision of
the leaders of the organization who are moving this forward in a real no nonsense
way and making a lot of progress. I am happy that you are doing two (2) things.
One (1) is that you are learning from the other Filipino Cultural Centers on other
islands, what work and what has not worked, so that we can build on that. The
second thing is that moving forward with your feasibility studies so that we can
actually pencil this out and see how it works and talking to different sources —
fundin sources including Federal sources and the foundations to see how we can
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get the capital funds invested on Kaua`i for this project. Thank you very much for
your hard work and commitment.
Ms. Yukimura: Sometimes details are so tedious and time
consuming but necessary and I want to thank KPCC and all of the supporters of the
center for your patience. I want to thank Ian Jung and the County Attorney's Office
and their staff and our staff for all the work that went into doing this clear
agreement as possible. I want to especially acknowledge the leadership of KPCC for
holding the vision and moving so deliberately yet very boldly to move this project
ahead. It is a huge project that will benefit the whole community; you are the
pioneers in doing this kind of public/private partnership on a new level. It is so
uniquely Hawaii and so uniquely Kaua`i and we really thank you for your
leadership. I appreciate how you are doing it with professionalism, business
acumen and dedication just to benefit everyone. It is so wonderful to be able to vote
today.
Chair Furfaro: I want to thank the County Attorney's Office for
their work on this but the community of Puhi is certainly growing and it is evolving
into one of the significant parts of our island very central and the fact that we will
be looking forward to assuring space for all of our community at reasonable and
affordable prices is yet to be worked out but it is great that we were able to get
through this and through meetings have mutual understanding with the
community, Administration, and the Council on getting us to a good place to be. I
also want to take the time to say that this was really a joint effort that I want to
thank our Legislative team in Honolulu that worked with the State to earmark
some money so that when we are able to come to being able to deliver a mutual
agreement on the ninety-nine (99) year lease that there is money available. This
will be a great value to our community, I am really pleased that we are at this
point. I also want to say if there is need to get documentation from the Council
when they go to solicit the money that was set aside, I am sure we will do whatever
COUNCIL MEETING 34 JULY 25, 2012
we can in a way of correspondence. Congratulations to those that have worked so
hard to get us to this point. I think we are all pleased that this would be another
asset for all of our community to enjoy. I would like a roll call.
The motion to approve C 2012-227 as amended, was then put, and carried by
the following vote:
FOR APPROVAL: Bynum, Chang, Kuali`i, Nakamura, Rapozo
Yukimura, Furfaro TOTAL— 7,
AGAINST APPROVAL: None TOTAL— 0,
EXCUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0,
RECUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0.
There being no objections, the Council recessed at 12:05 p.m.
The Council reconvened at 1:35 p.m., and proceeded as follows:
Chair Furfaro: Please read the next two (2) items together because
they are financially related.
BILLS FOR FIRST READING:
Proposed Draft Bill (No. 2441) - AN ORDINANCE AMENDING
ORDINANCE NO. B-2012-736, AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE OPERATING
BUDGET OF THE COUNTY OF KAUAI, STATE OF HAWAII, FOR THE FISCAL
YEAR JULY 1, 2012 THROUGH JUNE 30, 2013, BY REVISING THE SURPLUS
AND APPROPRIATIONS ESTIMATED IN THE GENERAL, HIGHWAY, AND
SEWER FUNDS: Mr. Chang moved for passage of Proposed Draft Bill No. 2441 on
first reading, that it be ordered to print, that a public hearing thereon be scheduled
for August 22, 2012, and that it thereafter be referred to the Committee of the
Whole, seconded by Mr. Bynum.
Proposed Draft Bill (No. 2442) - AN ORDINANCE AMENDING
ORDINANCE NO. B-2012-737, AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE CAPITAL
BUDGET OF THE COUNTY OF KAUAI, STATE OF HAWAII, FOR THE FISCAL
YEAR JULY 1, 2012 THROUGH JUNE 30, 2013, BY REVISING THE SURPLUS
AND APPROPRIATIONS ESTIMATED IN THE GENERAL, BOND, AND SEWER
TRUST FUNDS: Mr. Chang moved for passage of Proposed Draft Bill No. 2442 on
first reading, that it be ordered to print, that a public hearing thereon be scheduled
for August 22, 2012, and that it thereafter be referred to the Committee of the
Whole, seconded by Mr. Bynum.
Chair Furfaro: Members, this is first reading but what I would like
to point out, I want to give you my overview on this as Committee of the Whole
Chair, and then we will go into Committee discussions and then again for the Bill
for second reading. Before us are these two (2) money bills that are being
introduced by the request of the Administration. The first is to actually amend the
operating budget and the second is to amend the CIP budget for the year 2013.
During the Finance Department's internal review of the CIP, it was determined
that these amendments were needed so that there would be significant funds —
sufficient funds to cover the proposed CIP projects. This notification is hopefully
remedied through these two (2) bills as they are required of the Kaua`i County
Charter. The first one is to actually review what CIP items are actually needed to
be financially supported because during the post budget period, it was certainly
determined that in that session the actuaries for the reporting of employee benefits
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was over the amount we needed. In other words, we got the actuary in July which
will show us about a two point four (2.4) million dollar savings. The money will
come out of the actuaries to cover what has changed in the CIP and some of the
items that have changed in the CIP included the fact that the Administration and
they are entitled to do had encumbered some funds which were identified because
we had approved the CIP budget from 2012. In particular, item might be the fact
that they had encumbered all five hundred thousand dollars ($500,000.00) for the
Drug Treatment Facility at the time we were not totally aware of that in the budget
presentation but we are required to be able to have this balanced budget and so this
bill basically shifts the savings we had in the (inaudible) account from the operating
budget to the CIP budget. That is the purpose of introducing this piece on first
reading. I also want to point out that this does not affect when the County continues
to have one hundred percent of our required (inaudible) funds contributed, this was
not affecting that but we had an actuary report in March that was approximately —
we were at about thirty-five percent (35%) in the amount tied to the actual PT&E
payroll. Then that was reviewed by the actuary in early May and it came down to
about thirty-one percent (31%) so we had some savings. In July, they are required
to give us the final account summary and we actually ended up about twenty-nine,
eight (29.8) and we have people from Finance here that can reconcile these numbers
better than what I have read. It is those moneys that will be saved in this budget
period and have an adjustment of about two point five (2.5) million dollars. It is
that money that will be used in shifting to bill 2442, the reconciliation of the CIP
which is actually funded short from what it was at our original budget meeting.
That is an overview of what this is. I am not going to be answering the questions
that you may have, I just wanted to give you an overview and that is why I asked
the Finance Department to be here. This bill is about moving the money we saved
in EUTF to cover what later was reconciled as a shortfall in the CIP and if you have
questions, more detail than what I gave in this first overview, I have the Finance
people here.
Mr. Rapozo: I do not have a question for you but I have a... and
just information for the colleagues on the table, if I may?
Chair Furfaro: Yes but I have some more to share.
Mr. Rapozo: I brought this to the attention of the Chair and I
really appreciate you getting it on the agenda at the soonest possible time because I
think it is critical. I think as we look at this, there are two (2) money bills and for
the first money bill, the OPEB account being decreased by two point one (2.1)
million, I can understand your dialog but I know I asked that question in the budget
session, "are we really over budgeting in the OPEB account?" I guess it is clear
today that we did.
Chair Furfaro: I do want to say in the defense of the
Administration, remember we did not get the final number from the evaluator until
July. So it is fifty percent (50%) and fifty percent (50%) there, either we budgeted
short than what we drafted or when we got the actual number, we had a surplus
which is what the case is now.
Mr. Rapozo: The other information that I think is important to
note today and I am glad that the County Attorney is here because I will be sending
over communication to them and this is pertaining to bill 2442. On May 11, 2012,
that is when we had the budget session where the Administration came up and
reduced the funding of the Drug Treatment Center to move into the General Fund
budget of this fiscal year to balance the budget. In other words they said to balance
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the budget, we got to reduce some CIP projects and you see the reductions on the
bill but five hundred thousand dollars ($500,000.00) from the Adolescent Drug
Center was going to be moved to General Fund, that was on May 11. On May 30,
this Council passed the budget on final reading — on second and final reading, and
on June 20, the Administration encumbered the five hundred thousand dollars
($500,000.00) that was to be reserved to balance the budget for this fiscal year in
addition to the two hundred thirty thousand (230,000) and so forth. In other words,
the budget is not balancing, that is my bigger concern. That is the question I have
for the County Attorney that if the staff could note, please send that over as of
today. That five hundred thousand dollars ($500,000.00) in addition to the funds
that you see are not in our budget because they did not have it to transfer because
they encumbered it, which means this budget that we currently are in is not in
balance and that is a concern. I believe it is in violation of the Charter. We need to
act with some expedience on this and I understand we have to go through public
hearings and so forth, but the bigger question is for the County Attorney's Office is
how do we get around that violation? I cannot believe that after the budget was
approved on May 11, June 20 which is almost three (3) weeks later, moneys that we
were to use to balance the budget were encumbered. After we were told here, that
they were going to use those funds and again I am just speaking of the five hundred
thousand ($500,000.00) because it is the biggest one but there are other funds, in
other words, the people in the Finance budget cannot balance the budget because
the money we approved in the budget to transfer were not available. I think it is a
big problem. I do not think it ever happened here as long as I have been here. I
wanted my colleagues to understand that May 11 is when we were told that five
hundred thousand dollars ($500,000.00) were going to be reserved to transfer in the
near fiscal year. On June 20, they encumbered the funds and now we are in a little
pickle; I guess the County Attorney's Office can help us to find out where we go
from here. I appreciate the opportunity, Mr. Chair, I know we do not normally get a
chance to speak on first reading but I think as we prepare for public hearings and
prepare for Committee Meetings, I think it is imperative that we remember and to
be honest with you, I completely forgot about the five hundred thousand dollars
($500,000.00) when we met with the drug office in relation to encumbering the
funds, I wish I had remembered, I just did not. The encumbered funds has occurred
and now we are short in our budget and I do not think it is the right way to do
business.
Chair Furfaro: Just to correct some of the narrative, on June 22,
the Anti-Drug personnel came to see me and said, "oh Chairman, we had
encumbered that five hundred thousand dollars ($500,000.00)" and I immediately
had sent out some red flags to say, "you need to begin dialog with the Council
because that was not what was presented to us on May 22." I got word first, even
though I certainly appreciate our being able to have some dialog that that was
encumbered, I was informed that that was encumbered already. One thing that you
need to remember, folks, and this is really important and we will have more
definition from the County Attorney in the future, once we approve that CIP, the
Administration does not need Council approval to use any of that money. That is
currently not the practice. It is disappointing that I got the information on June 22,
it is important that I got this on the agenda, thanks to Mr. Rapozo's query with me,
as soon as possible because we are reconciling the year end in the month of July.
Again, we were fortunate that we did over budget and here is the specifics, the
March accruals for the EUTF was thirty-four percent (34%), it was adjusted in
{ May 2 to thirty-one percent (31%) is the exact number and in this week in the
actuarial report, the final report, it was twenty-five point five percent (25.5%). Fifty
percent (50%) of this or fifty percent (50%) of that, we would have been in bigger
trouble if we did not actually budget the EUTF at thirty-four percent (34%) at the
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time. The total adjustment that we got in July amounted to two million, five
hundred twenty-nine thousand eight hundred and twenty dollars ($2,529,820.00)
that is what I had found out.
Ms. Yukimura: Excuse my ignorance - it is "EUTF," what is that?
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Chair Furfaro: It is CC E," U "T," "F."
Ms. Yukimura: Okay.
Mr. Rapozo: OPEB — same term.
Chair Furfaro: Yes, OPEB, I got more refined with Employee Trust
Account... but we were over estimating that exposure.
Ms. Yukimura: At the beginning it was like fifty percent (50%), was
that because they added OPEB to something else?
Chair Furfaro: We had a visit from the State Finance Department
and that is what you are referring to and they had expressed for us at the time that
that was the percentage to use. The budget department went in and had a further
evaluation for the first go around of the budget and it was at thirty-four point seven
(34.7).
Ms. Yukimura: Okay. I have some questions about that process in
determining the number.
Chair Furfaro: You think "you" have some questions.
Ms. Yukimura: I am glad I am not alone.
Chair Furfaro: Part of that in defense of the Finance Department
is Alvin retired on us back in February of the previous year.
Ms. Yukimura: And we had no succession planning.
Chair Furfaro: We had no continuity to then Annie taking on some
burden then six (6) weeks before we started the budget, we brought in Ken to
replace him and so we had some real moving parts here. If I may say, if you had
any questions, it would be better for us to resurfacing them now but not expect the
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Ms. Yukimura: Alright. I would like to request that that
information that you read be circulated.
Chair Furfaro: This is my notes after looking at it for the first time
yesterday.
Ms. Yukimura: Perhaps the staff can put it into a memo and...
Chair Furfaro: Perhaps we can ask them to send us copy...
Ms. Yukimura: That would be fine, Chair. And also
Councilmember Rapozo, your chronology, would you be able to make that available
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Mr. Rapozo: Here is mine right here.
Ms. Yukimura: I know, I can see.
Mr. Rapozo: I will have this in form, I will probably have a
presentation at the Committee Meeting as well.
Ms. Yukimura: I appreciate the research and I feel like I have not
really absorbed it so it would be helpful to have it in a memo that I can read and
digest.
Chair Furfaro: I do want to add one (1) thing here. Mr. Rapozo
wants to make a presentation, that is fine, I do not have a problem with it. But part
of the problem here, we got to start getting the accounting staff talking to the
Finance staff, so I want to caution all of you if you are getting information from
Accounting and presenting something that has not been reviewed by Finance, then
I got a problem with that. The first challenge on our hands is, they need to be
talking to each other, not talking to us, that is the first challenge. If we are going to
get this corrected through this money bill and hopefully have some savings because
of the actuarian evaluating our EUTF funds, then we want to come to a common
conclusion without canceling any projects that were budgeted for in CIP. I think we
had a very difficult calendar but I have to tell you if we go to one (1) forecast, this
problem is not going away from us because year after year, we are still going to get
the actual actuarial almost in the beginning of summer. We have to do our best
evaluation and we have to understand it better. On that note, Ernie, are you
prepared to come up and digest some questions and as I pointed out, we can hold
those questions until the second and workshop on this before we get to the second
reading.
Ms. Nakamura: Maybe this is more of a request that we have a
separate briefing on OPEB, the timeline for receiving reports and is there any way
to change the cycle to receive reports that would feed in to the budget process? I am
not sure if it is possible but I would like to explore that.
Chair Furfaro: Yes, it is a shall or may q uestion but I do want to
point out to you that last year when we were still down at the old facility, brought
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over the State controller, I brought over the State OPEB Administrator to give us
some feedback on this and the picture that was painted to us is that number might
have actually been higher as JoAnn has mentioned. It is this moving target that is
going on and I am saying as we move the budget workshop up, I do not know and it
is a good question if we are going to solve this question about the evaluation of the
employee cost. This is a big question but it is a big question for Finance so let us put
that at the top of the list if we can — staff please report — have an overview of the
critical path related to employee benefit estimates for the purpose of budget. We
will make that the first question. I do not have a problem if we have to bring the
State people back to talk with us but last couple of times we brought the State over,
they asked us to pay their way, and they are broke.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
ERNIE BARREIRA, Budget and Purchasing Director: Good afternoon.
Mr. Rapozo: There are two (2) different issues, I think. The
Chair explained the availability of funds to replenish these accounts, so that is one
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(1) issue and that is an OPEB issue that I agree I am glad we have that funds
available, I am glad we over budgeted. That is a separate issue, that issue is one
that should be discussed so we can better understand how OPEB works and how
can we be off by so much. As far as the reasons for the money bills, the first money
bill which is 2442, the reason why we needed to transfer the funds is because in the
budget that we approved, we failed to include the funding appropriations for the
General Fund CIP, the Highway Fund CIP, and the Sewer Trust Fund CIP, they
were missing in the budget. On July 1, when Public Works, Highways, or these
projects that are on the books that were approved by this Council, they are ready to
go... oops, we forgot to appropriate the money in the budget. So the first question
is, how did we forget that such...
Chair Furfaro: I want to make sure you define "we."
Mr. Rapozo: County.
Chair Furfaro: Okay, very good because...
Mr. Rapozo: "We," approved the budget but we do not know
what we do not know...
Chair Furfaro: We saw numbers that they provided.
Mr. Rapozo: Correct. But those funds were lacking and frankly
and I am not going to take the credit for this but someone brought this to my
attention and that is where I got to meet with the Chair, we had to notify y the
Administration, "where is the funding for these projects?" Maybe we forgot to put it
in. Now, we got to scramble and find the money to fund this budget items and I am
not sure if some projects are being held up, this is going to take a few weeks, that is
the first question and I only have two (2), Mr. Chair. The first question is how did
we forget that?
Mr. Barreira: Councilmember Rapozo, I have asked to come up
two (2) of our very outstanding budget analysts Anne Wooten and Ken Shimonishi
and they will be answering whatever technical questions we can answer today and
appreciate the opportunity to do an analysis and answer your written questions
when they are transmitted to us.
Mr. Rapozo: And Mr. Chair if it is okay... we can wait...
Chair Furfaro: I will restate this first reading item, I am going to
allow people to ask questions of you. I am not asking you to mandate a response
today but I clearly want us to understand the question and respond to us because
we are going to be scheduling this on August 22 and the Committee Meeting will be
September 5. I am going to give Mr. Rapozo the floor so that he can restate those
two (2) questions and that is question two (2) and three (3) because mine was the
first question as modified from Councilmember Nakamura.
Mr. Rapozo: So, that was question number two (2) in the
Council's submittal and the final question is one that I talked about earlier, how did
we encumber funds from various accounts? For me, it is the five hundred thousand
(500,000) that is the most burning one for me. How did we encumber funds that
were already committed for the subsequent year's budget? I do not think it is a
Finance question but somebody had to have said, "wait a minute, you cannot use
that money, we need that money in 2013 to balance the budget." Somebody must
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have said, "use the funds encumbered," but then there is no adjustment to be made
and again, you heard my other question that is going to be for the County Attorney
but I want to see a chronology of what occurred and up to the expenditure or the
encumbrance of these funds. I cannot see how that happened when those funds
were already committed to balance the next year's budget and that is troubling for
me. It could be a costly mistake because now we need to take funds from our
facilities reserve, we need to take funds from our ADA projects, to balance the
budget and that is of grave concern to me. That is the two (2) questions I have for
Finance and Budget and let me just recap — how did we forget to put that in the
budget and number two (2) how did we encumber funds that were committed for the
following year's budget? That is all I have, thank you.
Chair Furfaro: We can wait until you guys completely understand
those two (2) questions, it is a cool hand Luke question, "the failure to
communicate" and we need to improve on that.
Ms. Yukimura: I need to see the chronology of events so I might
have more questions later but my questions right now relate to the process of
setting the OPEB? Let me ask a larger question, we have the base salaries of
employees and then we have OPEB... I mean we often talk about the additional
amounts to the base salary that we always budget because they are an obligation,
right? My understanding when we started the budget process is that we were using
fifty percent (50%) or something like that. Now it is down to twenty-five percent
(25%), how did we get there? That is huge and do we do it year by year? Don't we
have a rule of thumb that kind of works until we have maybe a new collective
bargaining agreement and then it might change because our other agreements
made but does it change year to year and based on what then?
(Inaudible)
Chair Furfaro: I would prefer they not. The fifty percent (50%)
term that people were using about OPEB, right? What is the difference between
OPEB and EUTF? Can you answer that now? So that we can all understand what
we are getting from the State as far as information and what we are getting from
our actuarial.
ANNE WOOTON, Budget Analyst: Councilmember Yukimura, I believe
your question was what is the difference OPEB and EUTF?
Ms. Yukimura: Well, maybe my question... and it is close... I am
asking what makes up the non-salary percentage that we are adding?
Chair Furfaro: (inaudible) because one (1) number we get from the
State and one (1) number we get from our actuarial.
Ms. Wooton: I heard some discussion surrounding the OPEB.
OPEB at one time was combined with health fund, so there might be some
confusion about what was combined with at one (1) time and now it is separate
expenditure line items and there are personnel expenses. OPEB is by itself, I have
never known OPEB to be at fifty percent (50%) since I have been looking at salaries
and so forth.
Ms. Yukimura: Let us tell everybody what we are talking about
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help if you specify what those Other Post Employment Benefits include. That must
include pension obligations?
Ms. Wooton: I believe that is health fund benefits for our
employees once they retire.
Ms. Yukimura: Okay, that helps.
Ms. Wooton: I am not an expert at this, that is my
understanding of what OPEB is.
Ms. Yukimura: So, it is Post Employment Retirement, is that what
you are saying?
Ms. Wooton: Medical.
Ms. Yukimura: Oh, medical, excuse me. Post Employment
Medical...
Ms. Wooton: Other Post Employment Benefits.
Ms. Yukimura: Anything else?
Ms. Wooton: As far as I know it is that is all it is.
Ms. Yukimura: And then EUTF?
Ms. Wooton: EUTF is where the OPEB is paid to if I understand
it correctly. That stands for Employees Union Trust Fund.
Ms. Yukimura: There are medical obligations; do we not put aside
certain pension requirements based on salary?
Ms. Wooton: Correct, that is another personnel expense type.
Ms. Yukimura: What do they call that generic amount that is
non-salary? Is there a name for that? We say somebody gets fifty-five thousand a
year and that is their salary, then we use a percentage number to add something
else to the budget because those are obligations that come with that salary.
Ms. Wooton: Correct.
Ms. Yukimura: And we speak of that in terms of a percentage?
Ms. Wooton: Correct.
Ms. Yukimura: Okay, what are all the things that make up that
percentage that we put aside?
Ms. Wooton: And understanding budget, I might not give you
the correct terminology as far as payroll might understand it but it is retirement is
one (1), health fund, so if an employee chooses to take medical while being an active
employee, OPEB is of course is for post employment, so that is once you retire.
Social security of course which is a set rate going into the Federal Government.
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Chair Furfaro: We have in there the health, we have social
security, we have the retirees, and we have EUTF that we pay to OPEB.
Ms. Yukimura: Other way around.
Chair Furfaro: Other way around, I am sorry. Now, let us not get
so tied into that right now, I am saying to you folks that I am allowing you to come
back with those answers. For members here if you can refer to the County of Kaua`i
Fiscal Budget Year 2013 which was submitted to us on March 15, you have it in
your packet. There is the exact breakdown here for salary allocations, social
security, health fund, retirement system, OPEB and those (inaudible) and this is
where the fifty some odd percent is.
Ms. Wooton: Correct.
Chair Furfaro: And it ranges depending on Department from fifty-
two percent (52%) to almost fifty-seven (57) by Department. But this was a blended
number. Now, I would like you to reference this description and reference the
narrative from us on all of these so we do not go through the questions again and I
think that is what the Vice Chair is looking for.
Ms. Yukimura: It is, thank you.
Chair Furfaro: And when I say "EUTF," it is the Employee Union
Trust Fund. Those are people that we pay that administer — did I get that
backwards again?
Ms. Yukimura: No.
Chair Furfaro: That administers the OPEB.
Ms. Yukimura: Yes, okay. Thank you very much.
Mr. Barreira: Chair, your expectation of the chart analysis will
come as question six (6) or seven (7)?
Chair Furfaro: Yes, we will send these over. Scott, can you frame
these questions. Give us the narrative again on all those line items that we just
covered.
Mr. Barreira: Understood.
Chair Furfaro: Again, this is only first reading, are there any
specific questions that you want to go over?
Mr. Bynum: Maybe we need a separate agenda item about the
Adolescent Drug Treatment Center.
Chair Furfaro: We can do that. I would be glad to do that because
as I said, Mr. Rapozo brought this to my attention, but also on June 22 someone
from the Administration came over to tell me and this is after we have gone through
the budget sequence that we did encumber all three phases of that money. That
was disclosed to us sometime afterwards and I said to the members of the
Administration that you need to go back and visit with every Councilmember
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because that was not presented to us during the budget cycle. We will put a new
item on.
Mr. Bynum: I do not want to come to any conclusions but it just
does not jive.
Chair Furfaro: I agree. Let us not come to any conclusion but
what money had in it the certain evaluations, certain design components and so
forth and I do not think the Council in Ma y had agreed a d to all of those components.
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At the same time, and this is the question for the County Attorney, I want to make
sure we understand that once we approved the previous year CIP, it does not come
back to the Council any time. Once we had approved it, the Council cannot then say
unless we put a specific proviso in there, we cannot come back and ask you to get
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our approval again to encumber those funds. That is where we go astray.
Ms. Nakamura: A lot of the discussion has been about the
Adolescent Drug Treatment Center but I noticed there are other projects as well
that is being added and then subtracted — can you just describe the thinking behind
those changes?
Ms. Wooton: What exactly was your question?
Ms. Nakamura: I was wondering how did these other items... is it
now there was this additional funding available that more projects are being added
to the General Fund CIP?
Chair Furfaro: I think the way we should send over that question
because we should not ask the Finance guys to express how did we reduce the
Sewer Fund...
Ms. Nakamura: Oh okay.
Chair Furfaro: What did we do with Roads and so forth? Those are
typical questions that should be coordinated with Finance through the Engineering
Department and so forth. So, there were three (3) other projects that were
adjusted?
Ms. Wooton: Six (6)?
Chair Furfaro: Okay, we will relist those projects in a form of a
question — how did they... because it looks like money was again encumbered there
after the budget process. So, it was not there when we... where we are at now, that
is why we got to move money there. We will send those over for Councilmember
Nakamura. Do you understand the project list that she is referencing?
Ms. Nakamura: Councilmember Rapozo was exercising some
caution because this is first reading but I think it is a good thing to do to raise
questions early in the process. First reading is a good time to do that because the
next step is public hearing, I believe.
Chair Furfaro: And again, we are dealing with past practice that
was not the rule, that was the past practice and obviously I am letting us have
discussion. That is not the current practice but giving them time for the questions,
do not expect the answers if you want any accuracy and quite frankly that is the
problem right now, we do not have accurate information.
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Ms. Nakamura: I think that helps in the public hearing process
where it is clear to the public what are the issues and I think that is what we are
surfacing now.
Mr. Rapozo: Which office or division of Finance is responsible
for the encumbrances or moving the money? Is that the Budget Office, Finance
Office, Accounting Office? I am not saying giving authority but who actually puts it
in the computer and say this money comes from this account to another account.
Ms. Wooton: That would be the two (2) of us. The two (2)
analysts.
Mr. Rapozo: That would be out of the Budget Office — Finance?
Ms. Wooton: Correct.
Mr. Rapozo: If we could get the encumbrance dates or the funds
for these projects that are on this money bill.
Chair Furfaro: For those six (6)?
Mr. Rapozo: Yes. Apparently what happened was when the
transfer was attempted, there was no funds there. We were short in these accounts
by this number.
Ms. Wooton: Yes, correct.
Mr. Rapozo: The next question is really for Ernie, as of today, is
our budget balanced?
Mr. Barreira: (Inaudible).
Mr. Rapozo: It is not? As of today, are we operating with an
unbalanced budget?
Mr. Barreira: Yes sir, it is not balanced as we speak today. That
is why the money bill has been submitted for consideration.
Mr. Rapozo: Okay, thank you very much.
Chair Furfaro: And is the General Operating budget that has the
surplus in it and it is the CIP budget that has the shortage of it?
Mr. Barreira: Yes, sir.
Chair Furfaro: Okay, I want to make sure we are clear here. The
Operating Budget actually has the surplus...
Mr. Barreira: Yes, sir.
Chair Furfaro: Now that we got the final actuarial on our benefits.
Mr. Barreira: That is correct, Chair.
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Chair Furfaro: Anymore questions for first reading? Ken, I want
to thank you and Anne for your working on the budget. I do not want us to have a
misleading assumption here because as I said we went almost six (6) months with
Alvin retired, we then had Ken come on six (6) weeks before we do the budget and
Anne was by herself for almost six (6) months. It is an opportunity for us to make
some improvements going forward and could I also ask if we can have some
information dealing with the actuarial on the adjustments that were made, so that
we are all squared. Total package PT&E is about fifty-two (52) to about fifty-six
percent (56%) and in there is a part of the credits that we did get in July after they
did our full evaluation. We will see that in the future having to deal with trying to
get better information early on. We will send these questions over and we do want
to make sure that we get a quick turnaround and we will schedule it for August 22.
We will make sure that everybody understands there is no policy as stated here that
we do not ask questions on the first reading, that is a different practice now. It is
important that if we ask the question, it is for the purpose of giving you enough
time to get us back accurate information. We would like to have the answers on
August 22 because we will have a public hearing then on the bill.
Mr. Barreira: On August 22, Chair?
Chair Furfaro: That is what we have it scheduled for public
hearing. We would like to have an understanding before the public start asking us
questions, we have the answers to the questions that we are sending over.
Mr. Barreira: Understood, sir.
Chair Furfaro: That gives you four (4) weeks.
Mr. Barreira: Very good.
Chair Furfaro: And then it goes onto Committee on September 5.
Does anyone want to speak on this item?
LONNIE SYKOS: The testimony today illustrates how expensive it is
for the public to fund what is obviously an antiquated and grossly inefficient system
and I applaud the Council for your public commitment to improving the efficiency
and the quality of Council Services. Nowhere is this illustrated more greatly than
year after year at the budget hearings, having an incoherent budget presented to
the County and then having issues such as... or coming up today occurring. It is
inconceivable that in 2012, the Accounting and the Finance Departments do not
have a fully integrated computer system. There are contractors out there who go all
over the world, including at Barking Sands, and design, implement, and integrate
civil systems. There is no excuse from the County not to get their act together and
be able to do the accounting and the financing in an efficient manner. I thank the
County Council for your efforts in trying to achieve this in County Government but
it is not acceptable to me as a taxpayer to listen year to year and look at the expense
of paying all these employees to come and straighten out accounting issues. Thank
you all for bringing this to public attention and dealing with it and my support for
all of your efforts to get a system that finally functions well.
Chair Furfaro: Lonnie, I just want to reassure you that over time
we are constantly making improvements and this is one (1) of them. I shared with
you, we had one (1) visit from the State on percentages, then we had a retirement,
then budget starting up with a new budget analyst six (6) weeks before we started,
COUNCIL MEETING 46 JULY 25, 2012
so I think the emphasis you want here is let us communicate better and if we need
to use linked computer information, let us take a step in that direction.
Mr. Sykos: Best practices.
Chair Furfaro: That is what it is called. Thank you. May I ask
Amy to come up for a moment please?
Amy, I know that Mr. Rapozo had a question to send over to the County
Attorney's Office, I would like to give him the floor to ask that but I would also like
to ask a question so we will probably be sending over two (2) questions. It is
something that has come over in the past dealing with this approval process for the
budget when we approve the CIP plan, there is no requirement for these different
engineers and building people to come back to get approval. Once we applied this
CIP, it is approved but how in the future for larger projects can we better
understand a proviso that on certain projects that are phased out, we have an
opportunity to implement a proviso that modifies the budget approval?
Mr. Rapozo: I think you heard my question, we will obviously
put it in written form and again I think the concern is that number one (1) we are
operating with an unbalanced budget. As I read the Charter, I think we are
mandated and I believe that shall means shall pass a balanced budget. I believe the
Council passed a balanced budget on May 30 because the budget that we passed
was balanced. It is not something the Council did, but I think the action on June 20
by the Administration to take the committed funds and encumber it, took that
balanced budget that was passed on May 30 and all of a sudden became an
unbalanced budget effective July 1 because there were no funds in there to transfer
from the CIP fund to the General fund. I only used the Adolescent Drug Treatment
Center like I said earlier but that encumbrances or inaccurate line items include the
Convention Hall as well — improvements to the Convention Hall, again ADA
projects, the levees in Hanapepe and Waimea, and some very small projects. But
the Council fulfilled the Charter mandate to passing a balanced budget but when
the encumbrances of June 20 were made, I think that is where the problem
happened. That is what the questions will be that will be sent over and I am
hoping we can get that back by the same.
Chair Furfaro: At least a week before the public hearings so that
makes it August 15.
Mr. Rapozo: Is that something g that... If it is not enough time?
Chair Furfaro: I am not saying you have a choice, you have three
(3) weeks, I accept the answers.
AMY ESAKI, First Deputy County Attorney: Yes, I have it noted on my
notes.
Chair Furfaro: Amy, I know you will cooperate with us on that, but
you can see now the question that I had versus how it ties into Mr. Rapozo's because
the approvals that we gave for the Convention Center were actually last year for
that money but it showed the balance that existed and it was not the same with the
levees and so forth. It is very important for us to understand once we approve the
CIP, is it a fact that the Council no longer has purview over the spending of that
money and the only way we get it is by doing a proviso.
COUNCIL MEETING 47 JULY 25, 2012
Mr. Rapozo: One last question, it is more of a process question.
I look at this as a very serious issue we got to fix right away and I realize that we
got to pass this through two (2) readings and a public hearing and maybe this
question is really for our staff but can you also look at... if it is as severe as I think
it is, is it possible to do a public hearing on the same day we do the second reading?
Ms. Esaki: (inaudible)... on the second reading?
Mr. Rapozo: Yes and I think we do it for the budget, do we not
do the public hearing the same day as the... (inaudible) and if it is a policy question
or process question with our staff— they will answer it. My concern is getting this
thing in compliance with the Charter as soon as possible.
Ms. Esaki: So I have three (3) issues here. Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: We will send the last question over as a separate
item because we would like to keep that for record in future references having same
day public hearing as we do the final reading — second reading bills. Amy, thank
you very much. I have great faith that you will get back to us by the 15th.
There being no objection, the meeting was called back to order.
The motion for passage of Proposed Draft Bills Nos. 2441 and 2442 were then
put, and carried by the follow vote:
FOR PASSAGE: Bynum, Chang, Kuali`i, Nakamura, Rapozo,
Yukimura, Furfaro TOTAL— 7,
AGAINST PASSAGE: None TOTAL— 0
EXCUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0,
RECUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
Ms. Esaki: Good afternoon.
EXECUTIVE SESSION:
ES-563 Pursuant to Haw. Rev. Stat Sections 92-4 and 92-5(a)(4), and the
Kaua`i County Charter Section 3.07(E), the County Council requests this executive
session with the County Attorney to provide the Council with a briefing, discussion
and consultation on the quarterly report on pending and denied claims report. The
briefing and consultation involves consideration of the powers, duties, privileges,
immunities and/or liabilities of the Council and the County as they relate to this
agenda item.
ES-564 Pursuant to Haw. Rev. Stat. sections 92-4 and 92-5(a)(4), and
Kauai County Charter section 3.07(E), the purpose of this executive session is to
provide Council with a briefing and request for authority to settle the claim against
the County of Kauai by Akinaka & Associates, Ltd, filed on May 14, 2012, and
related matters. This briefing and consultation involves consideration of the powers,
duties, privileges, immunities and/or liabilities of the Council and the County as
they relate to this agenda item.
There being no objections, the meeting was called back to order, and proceeded as
follows:
COUNCIL MEETING 48 JULY 25, 2012
Mr. Rapozo moved to convene in executive session for ES-563 and ES-564,
seconded by Mr. Chang.
Chair Furfaro: Does anyone want to speak on these items?
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
Mr. Sykos: I have two (2) questions here that I am not
directing at any individual. These are directed at what I view as failings in our
process. The first one is, within our existing personnel system, will personnel be
rewarded for resolving this issue that was created by jobs not being done correctly
or will they not be rewarded for being involved in creating this mess that you all are
going to clean up today or in the near future? My second question is, is if there is
the appearance of a Charter violation or the determination by an individual or the
body that the Charter has been violated, and is there a complaint trigger? Does the
fact that the Council publically acknowledges the Charter has been violated, is
there a mechanism that that Charter violation complaint is pursued because it is
against the law to violate the Charter and if the County Government is not
accountable for violating the Charter, why should anybody else be? And that is my
civics question for the day, perhaps followed by the next question somewhere else as
to how do I file a complaint that the Charter has been violated? Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: Here is my civic response to one of your three (3)
questions, no, we do not reward for negative behavior, simple answer.
Mr. Bynum: Lonnie, the agenda item today raises lots of
questions and I appreciate the Chair's systematic but to answer your primary
question, I have been told by every County Attorney that I have worked with that
when Councilmembers become... when Council becomes aware of potential Charter
violations, it is our collective and individual responsibility to see that an
appropriate inquiry is done. In terms of whether it is a crime or not, I think there is
this issue of intent... we do not criminalize mistakes.
Mr. Sykos: Correct.
Mr. Bynum: That is a much larger question that we do not
determine here. I hope I have answered your question.
Mr. Sykos: You have reassured me.
There being no objections, the meeting was called back to order.
The motion to convene in executive session for ES-563 and ES-564 were then
put, and carried by the following vote:
FOR CONVENING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION: Bynum, Chang
Kuali`i, Nakamura Rapozo, Yukimura, Rapozo TOTAL— 7,
AGAINST CONVENING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION: None TOTAL— 0,
EXCUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL — 0,
RECUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0.
There being no objections, the meeting was in recess at 2:34 p.m., for the purposed
of executive session.
COUNCIL MEETING 49 JULY 25, 2012
ADJOURNMENT.
The meeting was called back to order at 3:31 p.m., and there being no further
business, the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
RICKY WATANABE
County Clerk
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ATTACHMENT 1
(July 25, 2012)
FLOOR AMENDMENT
Resolution No. 2012-50, Relating to a Resolution Establishing a 10 mph Speed
Limit for Wa'a Road in the District of Lihu`e, County of Kaua`i
Introduced By: JoAnn A. Yukimura, Council Vice Chair
Amend Resolution No. 2012-50 as follows:
Replace existing EXHIBIT "A" with the attached "Revised EXHIBIT "A" dated
July 24, 2012.
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ATTACHMENT 2
AFTER RECORDATION, RETURN BY MAIL (XX) PICKUP ( )
COUNTY CLERK, COUNTY OF KAUAI
4936 Rice Street, Suite 206
Lihu `e, Hawai `i, 96766
TITLE OF DOCUMENT:
LICENSE
PARTIES TO DOCUMENT:
LICENSOR: COUNTY OF KAUAI
LICENSEE: KAUAI PHILIPPINE CULTURAL CENTER
PROPERTY DESCRIPTION: LIBER/PAGE
TMK: NO: 4/33003043
DOCUMENT NO. :
PUHI, COUNTY AND ISLAND
OF KAUAI, STATE OF HAWAII
TRANSFER CERTIFICATE
OF TITLE NO (S) :
LICENSE
THIS INDENTURE OF LICENSE, made this day of
, 2012, by and between the COUNTY OF KAUAI,
a political subdivision of the State of Hawai 'i, hereinafter
referred to as the "Licensor", and KAUA'I PHILIPPINE CULTURAL
CENTER, a non-profit Hawai ' i corporation, whose business address
is 1890 Leleiona Street, Lihu 'e, Hawaii, 96766, hereinafter
referred to as the "Licensee";
W I T N E S S E T H:
That, the Licensor for and in consideration of the rent to
be paid and of the terms, covenants and conditions contained
herein, all on the part of the Licensee to be kept, observed and
performed, does hereby license unto the Licensee, and the
Licensee does hereby license from the Licensor all of the
property described and delineated in Exhibit "A", attached
hereto and incorporated herein by reference, said property
situated at Puhi, Kaua ' i, Hawaii. .
TO HAVE AND TO HOLD use of the premises unto the Licensee
for the term of ninety-nine ( 99) years, commencing on the
day of , 2012, up to and including the
day of , , unless sooner terminated as
hereinafter provided, the Licensor reserving and the Licensee
yielding and paying to the Licensor a net annual rental of ONE
AND NO/100 Dollars ($1 . 00) payable in advance, the receipt of
which is hereby acknowledged for the entire term of this
License. Said License, in its entirety and as the same may be
extended as hereinafter provided, being subject in all regarding
to the following:
1 . Licensee shall use and maintain the premises for the
construction, operation and maintenance of a non-profit Kaua 'i
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Philippine Cultural Center facility, open to Vie] all members
of the public, subject to reasonable hours of operation. The
Kaua 'i Philippine Cultural Center shall be operated as
represented in the Articles of Incorporation of Kaua 'i
Philippine Cultural Center in Section IV. Powers and Purpose of
its Articles of Incorporation, dated "FILED 02/15/2011". The
Kaua 'i Philippine Cultural Center and the land area subject to
this License shall be designated for community and cultural use.
Said facility and such ancillary improvements as may be
constructed shall encompass no more than three point four nine
one (3 . 491) acres of the subject parcel .
2 . Within ten (10) years from the date of execution of
this License, Licensee shall have commenced substantial
improvements to the subject property. If the Licensee does not
commence substantial improvements to the subject property then
this License Agreement shall be null and void and automatically
be cancelled. For the purposes of this section "substantial
improvements" shall mean that one hundred percent (100%) of the
foundation has been laid, or that one hundred percent (100%) of
the foundation of the active phase of a project is laid where
the project is being done in phases .
3 . Licensee shall not discriminate either in the hiring
of staff, use of volunteers, [e,,H delivery of client services,
or use of the facility on the basis of sex, sexual orientation,
national origin, age, race, color, religion or handicap .
4 . Licensee shall prepay rent in lawful currency of the
United States at the time of execution of this License. Licensee
agrees that the payment of rent does not and shall not allow
Licensee to claim at any time any interest or estate of any kind
or extent whatsoever in the Licensor' s property described and
delineated in Exhibit "A", by virtue of the rights granted under
this License or Licensee ' s occupancy or use of the above-
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described property of Licensor under this License .
5 . Licensee shall pay, when due, all taxes and other
governmental charges and assessments with respect to the
premises .
6 . Licensee shall pay, when due, all rates, charges and
other costs for telephone, services, and utilities, maintain the
water and sewer lines on the premises at its own expense.
7 . Licensee shall not commit or suffer any waste or any
unlawful, improper or offensive use of the premises .
8 . Licensee shall during the term of this License keep
the premises in a clean and sanitary condition and observe and
perform all laws, ordinances, rules and regulations of
governmental authority applicable to the premises .
9 . Except as provided in Section 22 of this License,
Licensee shall not assign or mortgage this License or any
interest hereunder.
10 . Licensee, at its own expense, shall maintain and keep
the buildings on the premises during the term of this License in
good repair . In the event of damage to or destruction of any
improvements placed upon the premises by Licensee, it shall
either repair or reconstruct the same or restore the land to the
condition prevailing before such construction at its sole
expense .
11 . Licensee shall carry and maintain at its expense (a)
workers' compensation insurance affording statutory limits, as
amended from time-to-time by State statute, and employer' s
liability coverage with limits of not less than $1, 000, 000 . 00 or
such amount as may be required from time-to-time by the Licensor
should Licensee employ any individuals; (b) comprehensive
general liability insurance, including automobile accident
liability, contingent liability, and contractual liability,
covering all activities conducted on Licensor' s property. The
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limits of liability shall be not less than $1, 000, 000 . 00 or such
amount as may be required from time-to-time by the Licensor,
combined single limits, bodily injury, personal injury and
property damage . If the policy is written on a "claims made"
form, it shall provide for an extended reporting period of not
less than three (3) years . Licensor may, at its sole
discretion, and after reasonable notice to Licensee, require
that Licensee increase the limits of liability and damage
coverage herein. All policies shall be written by companies
authorized to do business in the State of Hawaii .
12 . Licensee shall name the County of Kaua ' i, its
officers, employees, and agents, as additional insured on each
policy or policies (except for workers' compensation policy) of
liability insurance procured on Licensee' s behalf. All policies
shall provide for not less than thirty (30) days prior written
notice by Insurer and by Licensee, to Licensor, of material
changes in coverage, of cancellation, or of nonrenewal . Prior
to the cancellation of coverage, Licensor shall be given the
opportunity by the insurer to cure any defect or default by
Licensee resulting in the insurer' s intent to cancel coverage.
Coverages obtained by the Licensee shall be primary and not
excess or contributory to any similar coverage carried by
Licensor or any other additional insured. The Licensee shall,
prior to the commencement of this License, furnish certificates
of insurance to Licensor evidencing the above insurance
coverage .
Licensee shall at all times, with respect to the property,
exercise due care for public and private safety and hereby
agrees to indemnify, defend and hold harmless Licensor, its
officers, employees and agents, from and against all loss,
damage, cost and expense, including but not limited to
attorney' s fees and court costs, liability, demands, or causes
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of action resulting from nuisance, injury, harm, or death to
persons or damage to property (including without limitation, the
Licensee' s employees or property) arising out of or in any way
connected with the Licensee' s presence on Licensor' s property or
with the Licensee' s activities, maintenance and operations .
13 . Licensee shall abide by all County building code and
zoning code regulations in the construction and operation of
improvements .
14 . Licensee shall allow the County and its agents to
enter the premises at all reasonable times for inspection. At
the request of the Director of Finance, Licensee shall also make
available for inspection financial documentation, including but
not limited to all tax filings and annual financial reports,
concerning the operation of the facility.
15 . Licensee shall pay to the County upon demand all costs
and expenses, including reasonable attorney' s fees incurred by
the County in enforcing any of Licensee' s covenants and
conditions contained in this License in remedying any breach
thereof, in recovering possession of the premises of any part of
it, in collecting any delinquent rent, taxes or other charges
hereunder payable to Licensee, or in connection with any
litigation (other than condemnation proceedings) threatened or
commenced by or against Licensee to which the County without
fault is made a party.
1 16 . Licensee shall at the end of the said term, or any
sooner termination of this License, peaceably surrender the
possession of the premises to the County; provided, however,
that Licensee may, and if so required by the County shall,
within ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY (180) days after such termination,
remove all improvements built or placed thereon by it, and
restore the premises to its original condition; provided,
further, that if, for any reason, Licensee does not so remove
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some or all of its property which the County has not required to
be removed, than all such property not so removed, without
further act or deed, shall become the sole property of the
County together with all easements, rights-of-way and other
rights then owned or held by Licensee for ingress, egress,
maintenance, use, support and enjoyment .
17 . If at any time during the term of this License, the
premises or any parts of it should be condemned, then this
License shall terminate as to that portion which is so condemned
and the award for such taking shall belong to the Licensor,
except the Licensee shall be entitled to whatever portion of the
award is attributable to the appraised value of improvements
installed on the premises by the Licensee . Licensee may appear
and defend its interest in any condemnation proceedings and make
claim in its own name to the condemning authority for any value
attributable to its licensed interest and for the value of any
real and personal property of any kind belonging to Licensee and
for the cost of moving the same and relocating to a new
premises, and any such award made directly to the Licensee shall
belong in its entirety to Licensee .
18 . Acceptance of the annual license rent or the failure
of the Licensor to take immediate action to cure any default,
upon receiving notice of the same, shall not constitute a waiver
of such default .
19. This License is revocable upon the failure of the
Licensee to observe or perform any covenants or conditions set-
forth herein. If the Licensee fails to observe or perform any
covenants or conditions set-forth herein, and if any such
default continues for THIRTY (30) days following written notice
from the Licensor, the County may re-enter upon and take
possession of the premises including all improvements and at its
option may cancel this License and expel Licensee without
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prejudice to any remedy or right of action which the County may
have for arrears of rent or any other breach of covenant or
condition of this License.
20 . In the event that Licensor seeks to subdivide the
parcel upon which Licensee' s facility is situated, at no cost to
Licensee, Licensee hereby agrees not to impede such process and
to assist Licensor in its endeavor, and Licensor hereby agrees
that Licensee shall be entitled to continue to utilize the same
area (3 . 491 acres) as is set forth herein; provided however the
terms shall be then incorporated in the form of a Lease .
21 . After the term of this License, the parties agree that
the Licensor and the Licensee may renegotiate an extension of
this License for such terms as may be mutually acceptable to the
parties .
22 . Licensee shall be bound by the following Covenants and
Conditions :
A. Use and Occupancy. Commencing on the execution
of this License Agreement, the Kaua 'i Philippine Cultural Center
shall be used as a community cultural center to facilitate
community events, gatherings, and educational opportunities .
However, the Licensee may sublicense any portion of the premises
to a "non-profit" or for profit" entity. In the event of a
sublicense, the Licensee shall ensure that any Sublicensee
complies with Sections 11 and 12 of this License. Furthermore,
all other obligations of the Licensee to the County under this
License, shall apply to any Sublicensee . All proceeds earned
from Sublicensees shall be solely for the operational and
physical plant expenses of the Kauai Philippine Cultural Center.
B . Public Usage . The Kaua 'i Philippine Cultural
Center shall be open to the public, subject to reasonable hours,
and encourage all ethnic groups and organizations usage of the
subject parcel, improvements or facilities .
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C. Subject to Grant Requirements . The use of the
subject parcel, facility, and improvements shall be limited also
by any requirements set forth in grants obtained to construct,
operate or maintain the Kauai Philippine Cultural Center.
D. Establishment of Fee Schedule. Licensee shall
allow the general public use of the facility for events and
gatherings for a reasonable fee. In addition, the Licensee
shall establish a reasonable fee schedule at a rate to cover
utility and operational expenses for use of the facility for
County or County-sponsored events and gatherings .
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the parties hereto have caused the
terms of this License to be executed on the day and year first
above written.
LICENSOR:
COUNTY OF KAUA' I
By
Its Mayor
By
Its Director of Finance
By
Its County Clerk
LICENSEE:
KAUAI PHILIPPINE CULTURAL
CENTER
By
Its President
Its Chair of the Board
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APPROVED:
By
Its County Engineer
APPROVED AS TO FORM AND LEGALITY:
By
ALFRED B . CASTILLO, JR.
Its County Attorney
State of Hawai ' i
County of Kaua ' i
Fifth Judicial Circuit
On day of 2012, before me
personally appeared BERNARD P. CARVALHO, JR. , to me personally
known, who, being by me duly sworn, did say that his is the
Mayor of the County of Kaua ' i, a political subdivision of the
State of Hawai ' i; and said BERNARD P. CARVALHO, JR. acknowledged
said instrument to be the free act and deed of the County of
Kaua ' i .
Document description: LICENSE
Doc. Date No . pages
Signature of Notary Date
Print Name
My commission expires :
I'.
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State of Hawai ' i
County of Kaua ' i
Fifth Judicial Circuit
On day of , 2012, before me
personally appeared WALLACE G. REZENTES, JR. , to me personally
known, who, being by me duly sworn, did say that his is the
Director of Finance of the County of Kauai, a political
subdivision of the State of Hawai ' i; that the said instrument
was signed on behalf of said County of Kaua ' i by authority of
its Charter; and said WALLACE G. REZENTES, JR. acknowledged said
instrument to be the free act and deed of the County of Kaua ' i .
Document description : LICENSE
Doc. Date No. pages
Signature of Notary Date
Print Name
My commission expires :
State of Hawaii
County of Kaua ' i
Fifth Judicial Circuit
On day of 2012, before me
personally appeared RICKY WATANABE, to me personally known, who,
being by me duly sworn, did say that his is the County Clerk of
the County of Kaua ' i, a political subdivision of the State of
Hawai '.i; that the said instrument was signed on behalf of said
County of Kauai by authority of its Charter; and said RICKY
WATANABE acknowledged said instrument to be the free act and
deed of the County of Kaua ' i .
Document description: LICENSE
Doc. Date No. pages
Signature of Notary Date
Print Name
My commission expires :
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State of Hawai ' i
County of Kaua ' i
Fifth Judicial Circuit
On day of , 2012, before me
personally appeared , to me personally
known, who, being by me duly sworn, did say that the person is
the President of , and that the instrument
was signed in behalf of the corporation by authority of its
board of directors, and acknowledged the
instrument to be the free act and deed of the corporation.
Document description: LICENSE
Doc. Date No. pages
Signature of Notary Date
Print Name
My commission expires :
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