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COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
April 18, 2012
A meeting of the Committee of the Whole of the Council of the County of
Kauai, State of Hawai`i, was called to order by Councilmember Jay Furfaro, Chair,
at the Council Chambers, 4396 Rice Street, Suite 201, Lihu`e, Kaua`i, on
Wednesday, April 18, 2012, at 10:05 a.m., after which the following members
answered the call of the roll:
Honorable Tim Bynum
Honorable Dickie Chang
Honorable KipuKai Kuali`i
Honorable Nadine K. Nakamura
Honorable Mel Rapozo
Honorable JoAnn A. Yukimura
Honorable Jay Furfaro
There being no objections, the rules were suspended to take public testimony
regarding ES-538.
KANI BLACKWELL: Thank you. My name is Kani Blackwell,
although some of you know me as Doctor B. I am here to speak in support of the
P.O.H.A.K.U. Program. I am sure that you are aware that the program is based
upon restitution rather than conviction, incarceration, and subsequently a criminal
record. Some of the misdemeanor offenses that are referred to this program are
trespassing, driving without insurance, camping without a permit, petty theft,
vandalism, and minor drug offenses. These are non-violent, one-time offenders who
will get a second chance at life by participating in the P.O.H.A.K.U. Program. The
Program itself has been designed by professional people who understand the
concept of hooponopono, taking responsibilities for one's actions. I had been hired to
be one of two (2) instructors by the Strategic Justice Partners, the firm that has
provided the content and the training for the P.O.H.A.K.U. Program. Men and
women who have participated in the program were most appreciative and grateful
for getting that second chance. When they read their hohoike contracts or promises
for what they were going to do differently, I became a true believer in the program.
Changing behavior and becoming involved as a meaningful contributing community
member is a great contribution and a very worthy project of Kauai. There
havebeen forty people since January who had been given that second chance and
another ten (10) have already been signed up for May 12. Because we often see the
value of something by the real people that are served, I am going to mention just
two (2) examples of people that participated in the program. One was a mother who
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had shoplifted and she did it with her young daughter present. With tears in her
eyes, she shared with the group how thankful she was for getting that second
chance in life. At the end of class, she hugged me and said, I will be that upright
abiding citizen that you spoke of in this class, for I want to model that behavior for
my daughter.
The second example is a young man who wanted only to see the meteorite
shower from the top of a high building. One (1) evening, he and some friends
climbed the old Kekaha Sugar Mill and were cited for trespassing. He explained to
our group that surfing and fishing at the Pacific Missile Range Facility were his joys
of life and that if he had a criminal record, he would no longer be allowed to enter
the grounds at PMRF. At the end of class when asked what he would have done
differently, he emphatically said, the next time I see a no trespassing sign, you
better believe I am going to be obeying what it says, no trespassing. We did not hug
but he gave me a high five. I share these two (2) examples with you for I want you
to know that whatever you are considering today about the P.O.H.A.K.U. Program,
you should know that the program does work and that our community is going to be
better and lives will be changed because of the P.O.H.A.K.U. Program.
Chair Furfaro: Thank you very much. Is there anyone else
that would like to take this time on the consent calendar?
MILTON CHING: Good morning, aloha kakahiaka. My name
is Milton Ching and I represent the Kapa'a First Hawaiian Church in Kapa`a. We
do not have a minister at this time, so I sit in in the position of moderator. On
behalf of the church, its Council members and its members, we are in support of the
P.O.H.A.K.U. Program. We have had participants who have come to the church and
assist the church in cleaning up, sweeping, and we even had participants come to
church on their own free will. We believe that this program helps the participants
in this time of need. We are here in front of the Honorable Council in support of the
program. Thank you. Mahalo nui loa.
Chair Furfaro: Mr. Ching, do you have testimony we can
make copies of?
Mr. Chang: He sent it this morning.
Chair Furfaro: Oh, okay. Is there anyone else that would
like to testify on the consent calendar?
KEN TAYLOR: Chair, members of the Council, my name is
Ken Taylor. I guess I am somewhat disturbed to see this continue on the agenda. It
seems to me that there is plenty of work that you folks have before you without
having to micromanage this Department. I think the request have been for moving
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this project forward and you folks really have the obligation of saying yes or no to
that without getting into all of the details of cost benefit and all of that. I think as
we move into the election year, you should be spending more time doing your job
and less time on micromanaging individual Departments. I would hope that you
will move forward and approve this and let us move on with it and get down to the
real business of taking care of the County as the whole. Thank you.
The meeting was called back top order, and there being no objections, the
Committee was in recess at 10:13 a.m. The Committee was called back to order at
to 3:30 p.m., and proceeded as follows:
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Minutes of the March 21, 2012 Committee of the Whole Meeting.
Upon motion duly made by Mr. Rapozo, seconded by Mr. Chang, and
unanimously carried, the Minutes of the March 21, 2012 meeting was
approved.
The Committee proceeded on its agenda item as follows:
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
ALFRED B. CASTILLO, COUNTY ATTORNEY: Al Castillo, County
Attorney. For your consideration ES-538.
ES-538 Pursuant to HRS section 92-5(a) (2), (4) and (6), and Kaua`i County
Charter section 3.07(e), the purpose of this executive session is to provide
council with a briefing on the Prosecuting Attorney's P.O.H.A.K.U.
Program and its request for approval to apply and receive technical
assistance for its programs, including P.O.H.A.K.U., from the Bureau of
Justice Assistance and the Vera Institute of Justice's national Cost-
Benefit Knowledge Bank for Criminal Justice and related matters. This
briefing and consultation involves consideration of the powers, duties,
privileges, immunities, and/or liabilities of the Council and the County as
they relate to this agenda item. [This item was deferred.]
There being no objections, the meeting was called back to order, and proceeded as
follows:
Mr. Bynum moved to convene in Executive Session to discuss ES-538,
seconded by Mr. Chang.
Chair Furfaro: Is there anyone that wishes to testify?
Jennifer.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
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JENNIFER WINN, DEPUTY COUNTY ATTORNEY: Deputy County
Attorney Jennifer Winn on behalf of the Office of the Prosecuting Attorney. I
wanted to let the Council know that yesterday we asked for a deferral on this
matter for two (2) weeks. I did receive a reply back that such a deferral was not
likely. I did want to note that we object to an Executive Session at this time. My
understanding is that Council through the Chair sent questions to the Office of the
Prosecuting Attorney and they are in the process of getting answers to those
questions and also of course continuing the ongoing process of bettering the
program that is at issue here. A delay may be helpful to your discussion to clarify
or resolve any issues. This item or a similar item was previously received and
before you take it up again, a more thorough information may be helpful.
Chair Furfaro: Jennifer, I want to say that I am of the
impression that I did receive yesterday responses from the Prosecutor's Office on
some of the questions.
Ms. Winn: Okay.
Chair Furfaro: I also want to point out that I will share
those responses. But the agenda item is only a briefing. There is no expected vote
for any action. It is simply a briefing.
Ms. Winn: Thank you.
Mr. Rapozo: Jennifer, thank you for being here. The
request to defer is from the Office of the Prosecuting Attorney?
Ms. Winn: Yes, through me.
Mr. Rapozo: Yes, obviously because you are here
representing them here today.
Ms. Winn: Yes.
Mr. Rapozo: And it is true that the Office of the
Prosecuting Attorney had requested that the application be received, that they were
no longer interested in applying for this grant?
Ms. Winn: I believe —yes, as of two (2) weeks ago.
Mr. Rapozo: Which then caused the Council to take the
action of receiving the item, so the application for this Bureau of Justice Assistance
and Vera Institute Grant is moot, the application has been — there is no request for
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that anymore as I understand it; that is the communication that I received from the
Prosecutor's Office.
Ms. Winn: That is my understanding.
Mr. Rapozo: Okay. So your request for the deferral is —
and I guess I am trying to understand what the request was for — there was
questions sent to the Prosecuting Attorney?
Ms. Winn: There was questions sent to the Prosecuting
Attorney, my last...
Mr. Rapozo: By this Council?
Ms. Winn: Yes. My last conversation with First Deputy
Jake Delaplane was that they were in the process of getting answers. They wanted
more time to provide more thorough information to this body.
Mr. Rapozo: Okay.
Chair Furfaro: I am looking if I have anything that indicates
that they are no longer pursuing that grant. Do I have that?
Ms. Winn: I am not sure, but I am sure that last week
they asked to receive it.
Chair Furfaro: What Mr. Rapozo is referencing, do I have
that?
Ms. Winn: I do not know if you have it, I am sorry.
Mr. Rapozo: It was an email, Mr. Chair, that we got last
week. That is what generated the motion to receive.
Chair Furfaro: I think what generated the motion to receive
was also that maybe the posting was unclear.
Mr. Rapozo: On the Executive Session item.
Chair Furfaro: Yes.
Mr. Rapozo: But I am talking about the application, the
request for application was requested that it be received by the Office of the
Prosecuting Attorneys.
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Chair Furfaro: I am going to take a recess here to make sure
that someone is in receipt of that email because I have not seen it.
There being no objections, the Committee recessed at 3:37 p.m.
The Committee reconvened at 3:50 p.m., and proceeded as follows:
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
Chair Furfaro: May I ask you to read from that
communication that as during budget time, my email is almost overwhelmed.
Ms. Winn: The email says, aloha all, our Office is
requesting that both items set for the Special Council Meeting be received. We were
sent communications last night by the County Attorney's Office and the Mayor's
Office that we would like to review before proceeding on these matters. Given our
request, I will not be present at today's Special Council Meeting unless we receive
further communication from the Chair or his designee. Please send me a
confirmation that you have received this message. Mahalo, Shay.
Chair Furfaro: Am I understanding that the request is only
for two (2) weeks?
Ms. Winn: Yes.
Chair Furfaro: May I ask if you have anything that
indicates that one of the grants are not going to be pursued.
Ms. Winn: I do not have anything other than this email
that I just read.
Chair Furfaro: Okay. Jennifer, there are a few questions for
you.
Mr. Bynum: This email was sent on the 11th regarding
last week's agenda item which was received as requested.
'.; Ms. Winn: That is my understanding.
Mr. Bynum: And it has been reposted today for a
briefing?
Ms. Winn: That is my understanding.
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Mr. Bynum: Okay.
Chair Furfaro: And you are asking for two (2) weeks?
Ms. Winn: Correct.
Chair Furfaro: If there are no more questions, I am going to
ask the County Attorney to come up. JoAnn.
Ms. Yukimura: What is the reason for the request for
deferral?
Ms. Winn: The Chair just provided me with information
that the First Deputy apparently sent over last night; however, I nevertheless
received an email this morning from my client asking to object to you going into
Executive Session today. I am aware of a meeting that the Prosecuting Attorney is
having today relating to this issue and that I am assuming that she wants to
provide more information.
Chair Furfaro: The response I got late last night, I have not
had an opportunity to share with the Councilmembers, and the copy I gave you was
more or less in response to my questions, and you just got it now.
Ms. Winn: Correct.
Chair Furfaro: Mr. Castillo, may I ask you to come up?
Jennifer, one more question. Anything you have here is not time sensitive if we
waited two (2) weeks?
Ms. Winn: I am sorry, I do not understand.
Chair Furfaro: If we defer this for two (2) weeks, any
Program action or processing— there is no urgency from your client?
Ms. Winn: My client has requested the deferral.
Chair Furfaro: Okay, I just wanted to get that on record.
MONA CLARK, DEPUTY COUNTY ATTORNEY: Mona Clark, Deputy
County Attorney. To start with, the Executive Session was not scheduled at the
Prosecutor's request. It is informational briefing for the Council so that you will
understand potential issues. It is to increase your knowledge base and it goes
towards the County's current situation as far as P.O.H.A.K.U. P.O.H.A.K.U. is an
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ongoing program; though grants may not be pursued vigorously at this moment,
P.O.H.A.K.U. is going to continue as a program, it has been continuing for the last
year or so. The fact that the Prosecutor's requesting a deferral does not affect
whether you should have knowledge or not and what your level of knowledge should
be. I would think that the more knowledge that you have, the more beneficial it is to
you in dealing with issues that come before you.
Mr. Rapozo: Thank you, Mona, and I do agree with you a
hundred percent that the more information is better for this Council but would it
not make sense for us to get all the information and if there is some information
that we cannot access today and we will not be able to get it for another two (2)
weeks, would it not make more sense for us to reschedule the meeting until we get
all the necessary information? From what I heard from Jennifer was that the
Prosecutor was meeting today to discuss this same issue, and I am not aware who
she is meeting with, but apparently she was meeting with someone to discuss this
ongoing issue and that is happening today. It would make sense to me that if in
fact there are information out there that would benefit this Council, that we would
wait for the information. Especially being that the request was coming from the
County Attorney's Office on behalf of their client.
Ms. Clark: Right and I am the Deputy County Attorney
responding to the Council request. I think you are in a better position if you have
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more information to make decisions. I think it is always a positive thing. I do not
think that you can operate in a vacuum. I think you should have the full extended
knowledge available to you. Simply because you are getting information and from
one other source, this will not prevent you from getting that additional information,
it will just supplement your knowledge so that you can ask applicable questions.
Ms. Yukimura: Is there some possibilities for liability that
could affect the County?
Ms. Clark: Yes. The briefing is going towards the
liabilities and duties of the County.
Ms. Yukimura: And sometimes timely information can either
mitigate or... I mean lessen or increase the liability if we wait, so there is some
amount of time sensitivity to this information, is there not?
Ms. Clark: I think it is important that the Council has
as much information as possible, as soon as possible.
Ms. Yukimura: And if there is more information in the
future we can repost the meeting to get other information?
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Ms. Clark: That is correct.
Mr. Kuali`i: My question has to do with the posting. If
the prior matter that was received by this Council had to do with the request for
approval to apply and receive technical assistance towards programs including
P.O.H.A.K.U. from the Bureau of Justice Assistance and the Vera Institute of
Justice's national Cost-Benefit Knowledge Bank for Criminal Justice, if that grant
as County Attorney Winn told us is no longer being requested and that is not moot,
and I think we knew already back then that it was the request. That was why the
Prosecutor asked us to receive it and that is what the email is about and it is also
what her testimony to us a couple weeks ago was about, why is that posted as such?
Why does it not end with — to provide the Council with a briefing on the Prosecuting
Attorney's P.O.H.A.K.U. Program?
Ms. Clark: There is information provided in her request
that may be discussed.
Mr. Kuali`i: And it is information regarding the
P.O.H.A.K.U. Program?
Ms. Clark: Correct.
Mr. Kuali`i: So it is really not about the application or
approval for... to apply and receive... it is not that anymore, right? So why did we
post it? This looks like a posting that there are two (2) matters that are up for
consideration in the Executive Session and I think the second matter is not because
it was received. Why is it coming before us again? We did not ask for that or did
we?
Ms. Clark: You have two (2) matters, there are the
P.O.H.A.K.U. Program, it is connected to the request. The request contains
information independently and that information about the P.O.H.A.K.U. Program
may be involved in our discussions and therefore the notice have been provided of
that fact.
Mr. Bynum: The County Attorney's Office was prepared
to offer the briefing last week?
Ms. Clark: That is correct, we were.
Mr. Bynum: And there was a request for receipt which
was granted and now you are prepared today to give us a briefing?
Ms. Clark: That is correct.
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Mr. Bynum: Thank you.
Mr. Rapozo: Is Ms. Winn going to be available for the
Executive Session as well?
Ms. Clark: No, she will not be.
Mr. Rapozo: And why not?
Ms. Clark: If we request her presence to... could we get
her if we asked?
Ms. Yukimura: No...
Ms. Clark: She is representing an Office that is being
discussed, why would we not be able to ask the County Con Attorney questions?
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Ms. Yukimura: Because this is like sitting in a meeting
between the County Attorney and his client, you would not allow other people to be
part of that kind of briefing.
Mr. Castillo: Council Chair.
Chair Furfaro: Answer my question when I direct a question
to you. Does the County Prosecuting Attorney, for a briefing between the County
Attorney and the Council, have standing, yes or no? You are briefing us, that is the
agenda item.
Mr. Castillo: The question is does the Prosecuting
Attorney have standing?
Chair Furfaro: Yes.
Mr. Castillo: No.
Chair Furfaro: Okay, you answered the question.
Mr. Rapozo: I am just saying that if we are in fact finding
mode and there is a question as far as whatever is going to be discussed and the
County Attorney — Deputy County Attorney representing the Prosecutor's Office is
available, we can ask a question.
Mr. Castillo: Council Chair, may I answer that question?
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Chair Furfaro: Yes. And I want to make sure I made it
short because I did not like the activity that was going on at the table. I had two (2)
Councilmembers posing questions and so forth, I just quickly tried to pull it back.
You have the floor.
Mr. Castillo: Thank you, Council Chair. The procedure is
that the County Attorney's Office will be providing you with the Executive Session
and with the duties and liabilities and so forth. The Council may call in resource
persons, and the resource person to answer questions would be Jennifer Winn with
the Prosecutor's Office, so that can be had. The first thing — if you need a resource
person then you can invite the resource person in but not to tell you what the law is.
It is basically to gather information.
Mr. Rapozo: That is exactly what I asked, was if we had
questions.
Mr. Castillo: Yes.
Mr. Rapozo: Not to get an opinion.
Mr. Castillo: And I answered you.
Mr. Rapozo: Yes, you did. That is not what was said
earlier, so I just wanted to clarify what I was asking... who is asking for the
Executive Session? Is it the Council or County Attorney's Office?
Mr. Castillo: It arose from questions from the County
Council.
Mr. Rapozo: Right, so it is a Council request?
Mr. Castillo: Yes.
Mr. Rapozo: So if the Council requests an Executive
Session and like we did with Public Works, we want to talk to the Engineer...
Mr. Castillo: Yes, it is similar.
Mr. Rapozo: Thank you very much. My question to you,
Al as the Department Head if you can make Jennifer Winn available in the event.
Mr. Castillo: Absolutely.
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• Mr. Rapozo: And I may not have any questions, but in the
event that we do.
Mr. Castillo: I will give her a call.
Ms. Yukimura: You are not saying that this resource person
can be available while the County Attorney counsels the Council as its client?
Mr. Castillo: That is correct.
Ms. Yukimura: That is correct that it is not appropriate?
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Mr. Castillo: We are always in there in the Executive
Session and if you have a resource person come in, we should be there also to advise
the Council.
Ms. Yukimura: At the same time that you are speaking to us
as clients of yours in an attorney/client relationship?
Mr. Castillo: You wanted a resource person to give you
information right?
Ms. Yukimura: Well resource or not, is that allowable? Are
you waiving the privilege between attorney/client then? Are we waiving the
privilege?
Mr. Castillo: Are you waiving the privilege?
Ms. Yukimura: By allowing a person in while you are
advising the Council as your client?
Mr. Castillo: No, we would not be advising you during the
same period of time.
Ms. Yukimura: Okay, so that is the clarification I just
wanted to get.
Mr. Rapozo: I just want to make sure — I was not asking
for the Deputy County Attorney to be in present when you are briefing us. I think I
made it clear, if we had a question, that she could be available.
Mr. Castillo: Yes.
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Mr. Rapozo: Obviously when we are getting briefed by
you as your client, you are our attorney— no one else will be in that room.
Mr. Castillo: Yes.
Mr. Kuali`i: When the Chair asked whether the
Prosecuting Attorney had standing, you said no. I heard that answer. So if the
Prosecutor does not have standing, is her representative as a Deputy County
Attorney coming before us and saying or suggesting that we defer, is that
appropriate for us to consider deferral at her request for the Prosecutor?
Mr. Castillo: That was a long question. I am trying to
break down your question so that I can answer it appropriately. On the standing
question, I took it to mean that whether or not the Prosecuting Attorney had
standing to go into Executive Session and give advice on the law. My answer to
that was no. I do not understand your question regarding what is appropriate for
deferral.
Mr. Kuali`i: I am just saying as you advising us, I am just
saying that Jennifer Winn came before us and spoke on behalf of the Prosecutor and
said that there are questions that still need to be answered and they want to give us
more information and that a delay would be helpful to us in our decision, she said
all of that and asked for a two (2) week deferral. I am asking is it appropriate for us
to consider that two (2) week deferral legally?
Mr. Castillo: To me it is like any Department or any
citizen coming up here asking for a deferral and giving you the basis of their
request. It is for this body to decide whether or not they are going to vote yes or no
on that request.
Mr. Kuali`i: Okay.
Chair Furfaro: I want to say first of all I did respond to this
email after checking my records and as I said budget time I am getting tons and
tons of correspondence. This email really says that that Office is requesting that
both items be set for a Special Council Meeting and be received. I am sorry that
Jennifer has left but my question was to get clarification that the Prosecutor's
Office is no longer pursuing the grant; I do not see that in this email. What I see in
this email is that they are asking for a motion to receive both items. It does not
mean that we would not resurrect it like we did for this period. I still do not have
something that says to me that the Prosecutor's Office is asking or telling the
Council that they are no longer pursuing this grant.
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Mr. Castillo: Council Chair and each and everyone of you
reading that email message, how you interrupt that is how you interrupt that.
Chair Furfaro: Well I want to interrupt with clear English
that I am not pursuing the grant. That is not what this says but the Attorney that
is representing that Office says that they are no longer pursuing the grant. On
that, I have a tendency to want to get that part cleared up and consider getting a
deferral until I see something that indicates they are no longer pursuing the grant.
Do you have anything to that effect?
Mr. Castillo: No.
Chair Furfaro: Because it indicates that they met with the
County Attorney and the Mayor's Office.
Mr. Castillo: I do not have any more information than
what you have there and what Jennifer Winn testified earlier.
Ms. Yukimura: The briefing can involve issues independent
of the grant itself and perhaps based on the P.O.H.A.K.U. Project right?
Mr. Castillo: Yes.
Ms. Yukimura: So that even if we were to get clear
indication of not pursing the grant, that does not mean that there is no issue to
discuss today especially regarding liability of the County.
Chair Furfaro: Please do not misunderstand what I was
saying here. I was told that they sent me an email that said they were not pursuing
the grant. Going through all of my emails, it does not say that. So I am not fully
informed. I am asking if you have that? I did not want to drag this out about could
we still have... I just wanted to know if you had something different than what I
have? The answer is no.
Mr. Castillo: The answer is no. To answer
Councilmember Yukimura's question and comment, the agenda item is specific and
broad in nature, it does indentify the P.O.H.A.K.U. Program. You had testimony
this morning regarding the P.O.H.A.K.U. Program which is a live program that is
active right now and this Executive Session clearly will be discussing that aspect of
the agenda item which Mona is prepared to advise the Council.
Chair Furfaro: Al that is the whole reason why we had to
repost it.
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Mr. Castillo: Yes.
Chair Furfaro: P.O.H.A.K.U. and Vera.
Mr. Castillo: Yes.
Chair Furfaro: I am trying to get clear that I am supposed to
have affirmation that they are no longer pursuing the grant. This is not the
affirmation.
Mr. Castillo: Yes. It can be interpreted that way, I agree.
Mr. Rapozo: I think the affirmation came from Jennifer
Winn. She is the legal representative and I think we heard what she said.
Mr. Castillo: Yes and how it was received, whichever way
you take it, is the way you take it.
Mr. Rapozo: Well Jennifer, I thought made it clear that
they are no longer pursuing the grant. I think being that the Prosecutor is a former
Councilmember, she understands what receive is versus if it came from another
Department Head that has never served on the Council. On the Council when you
make a motion to receive, it is to kill it. We all know that. Not everyone knows
that but the former Councilwoman would know that and I think with the discussion
that Jennifer Winn provided, I am clear that this is no longer being pursued. There
is the P.O.H.A.K.U. component that is posted as well and I acknowledge that.
Chair Furfaro: And if we receive something from one week,
it does not prevent us from reposting a new item, right? Let us make sure we
understand that part too?
Mr. Castillo: That is correct.
Chair Furfaro: Mona, do you have anything more to add?
Ms. Clark: No.
The meeting was called back to order, and proceeded as follows:
Ms. Yukimura: Move to go into Executive Session.
Mr. Rapozo moved to defer ES-538, seconded by Mr. Kuali`i.
There being no objections, the Comittee recessed at 4:14 p.m.
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The Committee reconvened at 4:17 p.m., and proceeded as follows:
Chair Furfaro: We have a motion to defer, and I want to
clarify that the deferral is just for two (2) weeks.
The motion to defer ES-538 was then put, and carried by the following vote:
FOR DEFERRAL: Chang, Kuali`i, Rapozo, Furfaro TOTAL— 4,
AGAINST DEFERRAL: Bynum, Nakamura, Yukimura TOTAL— 3,
EXCUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 4:19 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Darrellyne M. Simao
Council Services Assistant II
APPROVED at the Committee Meeting held on May 2, 2012:
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