HomeMy WebLinkAbout01/06/2010 Public Hearing Transcript re: BILL 2340PUBLIC HEARING
JANUARY 6, 2010
A public hearing of the Council of the~County of Kauai was called to order by
Jay Furfaro, Chair, Planning Committee, on Wednesday, January 6, 2010,
at 1:37 p.m. at the Council Chambers, Historic County Building, 4396 Rice Street,
Lihu`e, Kauai, and the presence of the following was noted:
Honorable Tim Bynum
Honorable Dickie Chang
Honorable Jay Furfaro
Honorable Lani T. Kawahara
Honorable Bill "Kaipo" Asing, Council Chair
Excused: Honorable Daryl W. Kaneshiro
Honorable Derek S. K. Kawakami
The Clerk read the notice of the public hearing on the following:
BILL NO. 2340 - A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO
ZONING DESIGNATIONS IN ORDINANCE NO. PM-229-91; KILAUEA,
KAUAI (County of Kauai, Applicant),
which was passed on first reading and ordered to print by the Council of the County
of Kauai on December 2, 2009, and published in -The Garden Island newspaper on
December 10, 2009.
The hearing proceeded as follows:
Mr. Furfaro: Just to give the councilmembers a little history on
this, this was the downzoning of the commercial property on the mauka side in
Kilauea, and unfortunately, at the time we processed this applicant for the
downzoning, there was an error in certain map lines for the zoning map. The State
land use map as well as the general plan- map have been corrected. This zoning
error on the outline needs to be consistent with the two previous maps, so this is
coming back to us to be heard for the purpose of correcting the map, and eventually
will catch up with the earlier pieces. on general plan and • State Land Use
Commission. I would like to ask if there is anyone in the audience or the applicant
if he would like to give any testimony. I think this is the piece that has now come
back to us from the planning commission, am I correct?
Mr. Nakamura: Yes.
Mr. Furfaro: And therefore, this will then go to committee, and
then will then be completed and aligned up with the other two maps. If can have
you introduce yourself as the applicant?
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MICHAEL KAPLAN: Sure. Mahalo Chair Asing and Councilmembers.
My name is Michael Kaplan. I am the project manager for Anaina Hou, which is
the development for this site, and I did just want to let the council know that the
owner of the property is in favor of downzoning from industrial to open zone. And
just wanted to give you a quick update of what's going on on the project. We are
currently constructing a miniature golf course with botanical gardens and a park
and ride on the upper portion of this property. We do hope to be finished with
construction and open toward the end of summer. We do also have a use permit for
a nursery for plants and gardening supplies. We are currently not constructing that
facility right now, but it is in our plans in the near future to build that as well. As
far as the rezoned portion of the property, we are proposing an outdoor
amphitheater that can be used for concerts, weddings, and variety of other
community events, as well as an indoor theater for movies, theatrical productions,
also be a host for business conferences. And we do plan on also having a certified
kitchen at the facility so we can serve food at the variety events that we're hosting,
and also rent out that space to local producers so they can make their products
certifiable. Basically, the goal of this facility is to create amulti-use venue for the
north shore for any type of public or private event. Mahalo for your time. You have
any questions?
Mr. Furfaro: I would like to correct the statement I made earlier.
They are the property owners there and the developers. The county, in correcting .
this, is actually the applicant, so... Mr. Bynum?
Mr. Bynum: Thanks for coming today, appreciate it.
Mr. Kaplan: Thank you.
Mr. Bynum: Nice to hear the update. I just have one question to
ask. The amphitheater and the theater that you mentioned, when it was developed,
what would the capacity be...like audience capacity?
Mr. Kaplan: Around 250 people.
Mr. Bynum: Thank you.
Mr. Kaplan: You're welcome.
Mr. Furfaro: Thank you Mr. Bynum.
Mr. Chang: I'm sorry. Two hundred fifty people for the
amphitheater, but the indoor theater is different, right?
Mr. Kaplan: Yeah, sorry. Just to qualify that, we will have
about 250 seats for the indoor theater. With the outdoor amphitheater, since it's
sort of like a hillside, we do plan on having around the same amount of bench
seating, but then there'd also be a grassy area, which I guess if there was a big
event going .on, you could expand that. But as far as actual seating goes,
around 250.
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Mr. Furfaro: So it's 250 plus the lawn...
Mr. Kaplan: Plus the lawn.
1VIr. Furfaro: Plus the lawn...
~Mr. Kaplan: Correct. So for the lawn, you could also do, if
someone's hosting a wedding; you could set up a tent there, or if you have a luau or
something, you could set up tables and chairs. So it .definitely can expand to a
larger facility if needed. ~ .
Mr. Bynum: I'm looking forward to going to a hoike.
Mr. Chang: Is the amphitheater like a...like the Waikiki Shell,
like there's an elevated stage... and the hill, so you got great views...
Mr. Kaplan: It's definitely not in the scale, first of all, of the
Shell. We are dealing with a 25 foot height limit on the north shore. So the good
thing about this parcel, just to familiarize the council, there's atop- tier and then
there's a big sort of hillside, and then a bottom tier: And what's great about that is
that's going to, even though we're going to have a 25 foot building, you won't be able
to see it from the highway. So that's going to be great for the north shore; we're
going to keep the view planes intact and all that.. What's also great about the
hillside is it kind of creates this sort of natural bowl shape, if you will. There will be
some earth work that would need to be done, but we're more going for like a rustic
feel, more lawn seating, and the stage would actually be more at the ground level,
and then you'd be looking down on the stage.
Mr. Chang: And the garden... the nursery and the garden,
that's a... you can buy plants and fertilizer and a hose and tools and...
Mr. Kaplan: Correct. r = r T~ -
Mr. Chang: Thank you.
Mr. Furfaro: Thank you Mr. Chang. I want to reconfirm earlier,
the intent for the commercial kitchen is to allow, by application and for a fee, north
shore farmers, the agricultural community, they could produce jams, jellies, things
associated with agriculture production.
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Mr. Kaplan: Correct: Whenever the...if we're not having an
event where we need the kitchen, we would love to get. as much use out of it as
possible, and anyone who's willing.... We haven't established what the fee would be,
but anyone would be willing to rent out the space.
Mr. Furfaro: The intent is to let the local agricultural .people
who...
Mr. Kaplan: Correct. .We've talked with a number of different
people who are...they need a certified kitchen to be able to make their products.
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Mr. Furfaro: And I guess this would be a location that, for the
north shore not having a community center, this could be a .place to have a local
wedding reception and so forth.
Mr. Kaplan: Correct. Often if I know just form the Kilauea
community, if they want to have a fundraiser, they have to go to the Princeville
Hotel, they have to be inside; this would give the community...well the whole north
shore, but definitely Ifiilauea as well, a venue space. And you know, like I said, our
goal, is the more events and different types of activities we can have there, the
better. We're open for anything.
Mr. Furfaro: Okay. Are there anymore questions of this
particular piece? Yes, Mr. Chang.
Mr. Chang: Mike, also you mentioned that- you mini golf course
should be opening early summer?
Mr. Kaplan: Toward the end of the summer. We're currently
constructing it right now. Weather's been good, so it's been moving along. If we hit
some rains, it might delay us, but as far as right now, toward the end of the summer
we hope to open.
Mr. Chang: So that's 18 holes?
Mr. Kaplan: Correct. It's a... It's putt-putt.
Mr. Chang: Yeah, putt... So you got a score card, maybe water
features, and...
Mr. Kaplan: .Yeah, there'll be water features... This isn't like a
typical boardwalk style with like windmills and props. We're calling it landscape
golf; it's all like sort of undulations and turns and... you know, there's some fun
aspects to it as well, but we also have these botanical gardens, the goal of which is
to sort of immerse yourself in Hawaiian flora, and what we want to do is tell the
history of Hawaii through the course. So for example, like the first couple holes
we'd have native species of plants...I mean tell a little bit about the geological
creation of the islands and the flora before any human arrival, and then we tell
about the...or show the Polynesian species of plants for the next couple holes and
tell about the Polynesian discovery, move on through plantation style plants like
sugar and pineapple and guava for Kilauea, and then into like a Chinese and
Japanese gardens focusing on some of the immigrants that came to the island. So
it's...you know, it'll be fun and hopefully beautiful and a little bit education as well.
Mr. Chang: Have you folks like...have you established... You
thought about a rate for the course?
Mr. Kaplan: We're ,thinking... I don't want to... don't hold me to
this, but maybe around twelve dollars for the regular rate, but we would have a
Kama`aina rate as well.
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Mr. Chang: Thank you. Congratulations.
Mr. Bynum: This is the golf course I can be competitive with
you, right?
Mr. Chang: I can cheat.
Mr. Furfaro: Are there anymore questions of the property
owner? Mr. Chair, did you have anything? Okay; I'm going to go ahead and thank
you. There's no one else in the audience? Is there any written communications, on
this matter?
Mr. Nakamura: No written testimony Mr. Vice Chair.
Mr. Furfaro: Okay, so thank you very much.
Mr. Kaplan: Malialo. Thank you Council.
Mr. Furfaro: And I'll close this public hearing.
There being no further testimony on this matter, the public hearing
adjourned at 1:48 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
PETER A. NAKAMURA
County Clerk
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