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Minutes of Meeting
OPEN SESSION
Board/Committee: COST CONTROL COMMISSION Meeting Date: November 8, 2012
Location Mo'ikeha Building—Meeting Room 2AB Start of Meeting: 1:39 p.m. End of Meeting: 3:30 p.m.
Present Chair Dirk Apao; Vice-Chair Lawrence Chaffin, Jr.; Members: Sandi Sterker and Arryl Kaneshiro
Also present: Deputy County Attorney Mona Clark; Board& Commissions Office Staff. Support Clerk Mercedes Youn;
Administrator Paula Morikami; Economic Development Specialist Ben Sullivan.
Member of the Public: Mr. Jim Satterfield
Excused Members: Glen Takenouchi and Laurie Yoshida
Absent
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Call To Order With a quorum being present, Chair Apao
called the meeting to order at 1:39 p.m.
Approval of Regular Open Session Minutes of October 8, 2012 Commissioner Sterker moved to approve
Minutes the minutes as circulated. Vice-Chair
Chaffin seconded the motion.
Motion carried 4:0
Chair Apao indicated that he would move item CCC 2012-14 before item CCC
2012-13.
Business CCC 2012-14 Communication dated 10/10/12 from Chair Dirk Apao to
Economic Development Specialist Ben Sullivan, requesting an update of the
Cost Control Commission's Energy Savings recommendations.
Chair Apao called for a motion to receive item CCC 2012-14. Commissioner Sterker moved to receive
item CCC 2012-14. Vice-Chair Chaffin
seconded the motion.
Motion carried 4:0
Mr. Sullivan provided the Commission with an update on the Commission's six
(6)recommendations on energy savings for County facilities.
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Recommendation 1. The Department of Water and the Wastewater Division of
the Department of Public Works should be required to develop cost-saving
opportunities for their operations, through energy efficiency and conservation
measures and the use of alternative energy sources (for example, methane, wind
and solar power). These alternatives should be considered for implementation
particularly during expansions or renovations to existing facilities and the
construction of new facilities.
With regard to the Wastewater Division, Mr. Sullivan stated that the County has
been actively engaged with negotiations to implement an Energy Savings
Performance Contract (ESPQ for the Public Works Wastewater Division with
Chevron Energy Solutions. He indicated that although he could not provide
more details regarding the project, there is potential that the contract would be
approved and that the project could be executed within a few weeks to a month.
Vice-Chair Chaffin asked how long have the negotiations being going on? Mr.
Sullivan said that the contract negotiations started in January 2012 and that the
contract consists of 100 pages that include specific details on how much savings
would be achieved by using baseline energy measures and alternative energy
sources for County facilities, what it would cost individually, and how would
the savings be calculated.
Vice-Chair Chaffin voiced his concerns on the amount of time it takes to
approve a Performance Contract to its final execution. Mr. Sullivan stated that
he agrees,but once the contract is approved the implementation of the project
would be expedited. He explained that the process is different from the typical
County project in that it is not an isolated procurement of an individual measure
because of its broad scope. Once the contract is agreed upon, it would takel0
months to a year to complete the project.
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Commissioner Sterker asked whether Chevron Energy Solutions have done this
type of project before. Mr. Sullivan said that after a lengthy review and ranking
process, Chevron Energy Solutions received the highest rank out of four
competing proposals. He explained that the County refers to a list of pre-
qualified ESCO's (Energy Services Companies) that is made available through
the State DAGS (Department of Accounting and General Services).
Mr. Sullivan said that there are two major components to be considered for the
project. He explained that the first component is the traditional wastewater
scope that includes pumps and motors; the second component which is more
than half of the proposed cost is to purchase a large size battery operated
photovoltaic power system. The total capital cost projected for the project is
well over$10 million.
Vice-Chair Chaffin questioned what would happen if the County changed its
mind and decided not to proceed with Chevron; have they received any payment
so far? Mr. Sullivan stated that Chevron is at a risk which is standard when it
involves an ESPC (Energy Savings Performance Contract) and that the escrow
is significant in the IGA(Investment Grade Audit).
He explained that payments are proposed if they are deemed to have met their
scope of work and that the County would decide on its own whether or not to
proceed with the contract. However, that is so far down the road and is not
expected.
Vice-Chair Chaffin indicated that he would like the minutes to reflect Mr.
Sullivan's statement that once the contract is approved it may take up to 10
months to a year to complete the project. He voiced his concern that the time
and effort expended to approve the contract may not result in the completion of
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the project. Mr. Sullivan said that the best thing for him to do is to check with
the County Attorney's Office on whether he would be able to disclose any
additional information at this point on the schedule proposed construction
projects.
Mr. Sullivan explained that because of the different types of components some
projects could take up to a year for completion, while others are completed on
time. He mentioned like any other construction project there is a possibility of
having significant delays in which they do not have total control over. He
further explained that the process is expedited because you are dealing with just
one contractor. Mr. Sullivan noted for the record that he can safely say that the
proposed time to complete the project is approximately within the range of a
year.
Commissioner Sterker asked if the land has already been procured for the
project. Mr. Sullivan stated that most of the measures in regard to the
Wastewater process are in place which is basically exchanging one piece of
equipment for another. He further indicated that there would be no further
delays because there is no additional land procurement for the proposed
photovoltaic systems.
Recommendation number 2. All Departments should be asked to read the
Energy Use Survey Guide and to follow the recommendations outlined therein.
Mr. Sullivan stated that although he could not respond specifically to the
Energy Use Survey Guide, he knows that the County is doing its part to increase
energy efficiency for the County.
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Recommendation number 3. Execute a new Energy Savings Performance
Contract to improve energy efficiency in the County's buildings and facilities.
Mr. Sullivan stated that the Office of Economic Development has been doing a
lot of work in preparation of its next phase which is to focus on its resources in
completing the Energy Savings Performance Contract for Wastewater. This
second ESPC is expected to cover most of the County's non-water and non-
wastewater facilities. He stated that the task to implement the energy
efficiency recommendations requires equipment or fixture retrofits for the
buildings and would proceed either way with or without a contract, which
would result in significant energy savings over the next several years.
Commissioner Sterker asked what is being done with the County's aging air
conditioning units. Mr. Sullivan stated that he is not familiar with how the
County deals with the aging air conditioning units and as for the upgrades he
suggested that the Commission contact DPW Officer Brian Inouye to get the
information. He indicated that the air conditioning units that are housed in the
Police Department are due for significant retrofitting, if not replacement in
terms of the mechanical equipment.
He further indicated that although funds have been budgeted for equipment
replacement and fixture retrofits, there have been talks to delay the project to
decide whether or not to pursue another Performance Contract or have another
aggregated vehicle to proceed with the project. He added that a decision would
soon come in a form of an IFP (Invitation for Proposal) document that would
allow the project to begin as soon as early next year.
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Commissioner Sterker asked what other fixture retrofits needed to be done at
this point. Mr. Sullivan stated that the fixture retrofits vary from facility to
facility and that the Civic Center master plan cites all improvements including
the parking area and landscaping around the facility.
Vice-Chair Chaffin expressed his disbelief that the life span for air conditioning
units that are housed in the Police Department are only for ten(10)years.
Commissioner Sterker requested that the Commission be provided with
information on what is the normal life span for an air conditioning unit,
particularly the unit that is housed in the Police Department.
Staff acknowledged the Commission's request and will make an inquiry with
DPW Officer Brian Inouye to see whether the information is available.
Recommendation number 4. The County should develop cost savings
opportunities for its operations through energy efficient and conservation
measures by exploring the issuance of a new Performance Contract proposal
solicitation for County facilities.
Mr. Sullivan stated that he is unsure whether the update for this
recommendation is similar to updates for recommendations 1, 2, and 3.
Commissioner Sterker indicated that the update for this recommendation is the
same as recommendations 1-3.
Recommendation number 5. The County should form a County Departmental
Green Team Committee to assess work environments, identify opportunities
and make recommendations to reduce waste and improve efficiencies in their
daily
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Mr. Sullivan stated that the County has implemented an energy efficiency
program known as the Green Team. The Green Team is made up of County
staff level employees whose purpose is to tackle projects to improve the
County's resources management that will result in cost-savings and reduce the
County's carbon footprint. Some of the Green Team projects include
establishing a policy on thermostat settings in County offices; develop and
encourage a ride-sharing program for County employees; promote a paper
reduction campaign; and promote a"disposable to reusable's" campaign for
County offices.
Mr. Sullivan informed the Commissioners that the County is hosting an Open
House on Thursday, November 16th at the Lihue Civic Center. He invited the
Commissioners to attend the event which is also open to the public. The
purpose of the event is an effort to get the public's input and suggestions on
how to make the County of Kauai more energy efficient.
Recommendation number 6. The County should engage and promote employ
awareness, understanding, and sense of personal and departmental
responsibility among all employees for how they use energy and other resources
and how they can reduce waste and improve efficiency in their daily work by
creating an`Employee Green Team" in the County.
Mr. Sullivan stated that in addition to the Green Team program, the County has
a solution that they are hoping to have in place as early as the first quarter
of next year. He explained that over the last nine months, the County has gone
online collecting information from outside sources on various products used to
collect numerical energy use data. He indicated that their efforts were
successful in locating a tool that would take numerical energy use data of each
County facilit , visualize it and make the data accessible to the user so that the
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could compare energy usage on a month to month basis and even show energy
usage from a year ago to the present. He added that the tool would also provide
information on anomalies which would be very useful to help improve energy
efficiency within the County.
Mr. Sullivan left the meeting at 2:10 p.m.
Chair Apao indicated that he would move item CCC 2012-16 before item CCC
2012-13.
CCC 2012-16 Discussion on the County's special counsel contracts and
expenditures to date.
(a)Communication dated 10/24/12 from County Attorney Alfred B.
Castillo, Jr., to Chair Apao and Members of the Cost Control
Commission, regarding the County's special counsel contracts.
Chair Apao called for a motion to receive item CCC 2012-16 (a). Commissioner Sterker moved to receive
item CCC 2012-16 (a) for the record. Vice-
Chair Chaffin seconded the motion.
Motion carried 4:0
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Mr. Jim Satterfield, member of the public, distributed a list of questions as it
relates to this issue. Mr. Satterfield expressed his concerns on the amount of
tax payer's money that is spent each year for outside attorney fees. He asked
what are the criteria used in the hiring of contract lawyers when the County
should have the ability to utilize its own attorneys on staff.
Commissioner Sterker explained that the Cost Control Commission's
responsibilities are to eliminate or consolidate overlapping or duplicate
programs and services and to scrutinize for reduction any County operation.
She stated that she is unsure whether it is within the Commission's power to
place pressure on anyone to alleviate the time and cost to work a case.
Deputy County Attorney Clark stated that she is unable to provide any specific
details as to questions regarding special counsel contracts. Ms. Clark gave a
very broad explanation that if the County decides to pursue a case, it believes
that it has a valid legal base on which to act and that it would be more beneficial
to the County to pursue it then to let it go. Ms. Clark stated that one must
consider the facts and circumstance of each case and the legal issues to know
the basis of the appeal or the court case.
Commissioner Sterker questioned whether it is normal practice for the County
Attorney's Office to hire outside law firms to handle nine (9) of its cases.
Vice-Chair Chaffin expressed his concerns on hiring outside counsel and asked
why the County Attorney's Office doesn't have a law firm here on the island on
retainer.
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Commissioner Sterker stated that she would like the County Attorney to be
present at the next meeting so that he could address some of the Commission's
questions as it relates to what is the criteria used in determining the selection of
special counsel; what are the time limits and expiration date on the contracts;
and what are the reasons for hiring special counsel as opposed to using in-house
attorneys in the County Attorney's Office.
Staff acknowledged the Commission's request and will send a letter requesting
for the information and the presence of the County Attorney at the
Commission's next meeting in December.
CCC 2012-13 Discussion on the County's travel budget,per diem policies, and
expenditures.
(a) Communication dated l0/11/12 from Budget and Purchasing Director
Ernest Barreira to Chair Dirk Apao, relating to a request for travel and
related costs information.
Commissioner Kaneshiro pointed out that he would have liked to see the actual
budget for each department. Commissioner Sterker voiced her concern that the
travel expenditures for the Fire Department had increased significantly from
$42,789 in 2010 to $106,916 in 2012.
Commissioner Kaneshiro questioned how the County gets Federal and State
travel grants. Ms. Clark indicated that she is unsure of how the County obtains
those types of grants but would guess that if a seminar held by a State or Federal
agency, the County may be able to apply for a grant to attend the seminar if it is
beneficial to the County.
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Commissioner Sterker suggested that the Commission defer this matter for
continued discussion and request that Staff contact Budget and Purchasing
Director Ernest Barreira and ask him to be present at the December meeting.
Chair Apao called for a motion to receive item CCC 2012-13 (a). Commissioner Sterker moved to receive
item CCC 2012-13 (a). Commissioner
(b) Communication dated 10/12/12 from Director of Finance Wallace Kaneshiro seconded the motion.
Rezentes, Jr. to Chair Dirk Apao and Members of the Cost Control Motion carried 4:0
Commission, relating to information on travel and per diem policies.
Vice-Chair Chaffin questioned whether the quarterly per diem rate of$22.50
includes meals, lodging, and transportation. Commissioner Sterker replied yes,
and that same day travel per diem is based on a flat rate of$20.00.
Staff informed the Commission that per diem for traveling within the state
(inter-island) for more than one day amounts to $90 per day in which $50.00
would go towards lodging. Travel to the mainland would amount to $145 per
diem in which $85.00 would go towards lodging.
Vice-Chair Chaffin asked whether the $90.00 a day per diem is deducted from
the person's pay. Commissioner Sterker said no and that per diem is allowable
for business travel only.
Commissioner Sterker moved to receive
Chair Apao called for a motion to receive item CCC 2012-13 (b). item CCC 2012-13 (b). Vice-Chair Chaffin
seconded the motion.
Motion carried 4:0
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CCC 2012-15 Discussion on the County's Real Property Home Owners Age
Tax Exemption.
Commissioner Sterker stated that she would still like to make a
recommendation that with the exception of people ages 65 years and older,
homeowners who fall below that age range would pay just a flat rate.
Commissioner Kaneshiro stated that he is unclear on how it would affect the
taxpayers and where the County is now as far as its revenues, and how much
time it would take for the real property tax division to implement the change
into their system compared to having the tax rate remain the same.
Commissioner Sterker stated that the tax rate would actually come out even and
would lessen the amount of work for the staff at the Real Property Tax Division
because there would be only two tax categories for the staff to process as
compared to how the system is currently set up. Commissioner Kaneshiro
questioned whether the recommendation is an attempt to adjust the real property
rate structure or make it more efficient for the staff at the Real Property Tax
Division. Additionally, Commissioner Kaneshiro questioned how the
Commission would decide on the ages.
Commissioner Sterker stated that the Commission should come to a general
conclusion on how the members would want to proceed on this issue by either
acting on it or leave things the way they are.
Commissioner Sterker stated that what she is proposing is to increase the home
use exemption from $48,000 to $88,000 for all ages and eliminate the other
home use age exemption.
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She recalls a statement that was made by Mr. Hunt at a previous meeting in
which he said that there were a significant amount of people on the island
whose age is 70 plus.
Commissioner Sterker further stated that most people who are over age 60 are
well enough along that they do not need the extra$30,000 in exemption, and
that those who are under age 60 could really benefit from the extra $40,000
deduction. With regard to the people who are older and who really need the
exemption they would fall under the low income exemption.
Commissioner Kaneshiro voiced his concerns on whether it would be worth the
trouble to present it to the County Council because he didn't want to place Mr.
Hunt and Ms. Motta under fire by the Council as they were when they went
before the Council for the minimum real property tax exemption increase.
Commissioner Sterker stated that the basic home use tax exemption for the
County of Kauai is $48,000; her proposed recommendation would amend the
home use tax exemption to a flat rate of$88,000 for all age categories and
eliminate the other home use age exemption types. She indicated that by doing
it that way, it would lessen the workload for the staff at the Real Property Tax
Division and bring in more revenue for the County.
Commissioner Kaneshiro stated that he still feels uncomfortable with the
recommendation and would like to see the ramifications on how this
recommendation would affect the County, as well as the taxpayer.
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Commissioner Sterker asked Staff to see whether they could request the
information from the Real Property Tax Division as it relates to the total
number of homeowners who are under the age of 60, 60-69, and those who are
age 70 and older. In addition, Commissioner Sterker requested for information
on the total real property tax revenues from each of the three (3) age groups.
Staff acknowledged the request and will follow-up to obtain the information
from the Real Property Tax Division before the meeting in December.
Announcements Next meeting: December 10, 2012 at 1:30 p.m. in the Liquor Conference Room
3.
Adjournment Vice-Chair Chaffin moved to adjourn the
With no further discussion, Chair Apao called for a motion to adjourn the meeting at 3:30 p.m. Commissioner Sterker
meeting. seconded the motion.
Motion carried 4:0
Submitted by: Reviewed and Approved by:
Mercedes Youn, Staff Support Clerk Dirk Apao, Chair
(X) Approved as circulated on 12/10/12.
( ) Approved as amended. See minutes of meeting.