HomeMy WebLinkAbout2010-02-11 Open Space Commission Minutes COUNTY OF KAUAI
PUBLIC ACCESS, OPEN SPACE, & NATURAL RESOURCES
PRESERVATION FUND COMMISSION
Lihue Civic Center, Moikeha Building, Meeting Room 2A/213
MINUTES
A regular meeting of the County of Kaua'i Public Access, Open Space & Natural
Resources Preservation Fund Commission of the County of Kauai was held on
February 11, 2010, in the Lihue Civic Center, Moikeha Building Meeting Room
2A/2B.
The following Commissioners were present: Jean Souza, Chairperson, Tessie
Kinnaman, Vice Chairperson, Beryl Blaich, Eugene Punzal, and Johanna
Ventura.
The following Commissioners were absent: Puna Dawson, Linda Dela Cruz, and
two (2) vacancies.
The following staff members were present: Nani Sadora, Duke Nakamatsu, and
Deputy County Attorney Michael Dahilig.
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Souza called the meeting to order at 1:35 p.m.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION:
It was moved by Beryl Blaich and seconded by Tessie Kinnaman to
approve the agenda.
All were in favor by unanimous voice vote — motion passed.
APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES — regular meeting minutes of 1/14/10
and executive session minutes of 1/14/10.
Regular meeting of 1/14/10 —Approved.
MOTION:
It was moved by Beryl Blaich and seconded by Tessie Kinnaman to
approve the 1/14/10 meeting minutes.
All were in favor by unanimous voice vote — motion passed.
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Executive Session minutes of 1/14/10 — Deferred.
MOTION:
It was moved by Beryl Blaich and seconded by Eugene Punzal to defer
approval the 1/14/10 executive session minutes.
All were in favor by unanimous voice vote — motion passed.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
There were no announcements.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Status of Commission staffing and filling of vacant Commissioner
Positions.
Ms. Sadora stated that Council Services is still working to fill their vacancy and
are aware that Commissioner Blaich's term will be expiring.
Chair Souza questioned the status of the Mayor appointed vacancy.
Ms. Sadora stated that the Administration has already been advised that
Commissioner Dawson's term has expired and they are working to fill that
vacancy.
Chair Souza requested asking the County Clerk when they expect to fill the
Council appointed vacancy. She suggested asking the County Attorney's office
for an exception on filling the Commission appointed position.
Commissioner Ventura suggested that the Chair write a letter to the Council
Chair explaining their issues with quorum and the need for eight seated
commissioners in order to appoint the ninth.
MOTION:
It was moved by Johanna Ventura and seconded by Beryl Blaich that the
Commission Chair writes a letter to the Council Chair regarding filling the
Council appointed position.
All were in favor by unanimous voice vote — motion passed.
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Update and Discussion of the Commission's work plan/timeline of events
and activities through 2010, to include potential field trips, future
Commission education topics, and scope and timing of the facilitated
review of the Commission's vision, goals, direction, priorities, processes,
and proposals.
Chair Souza stated that the Commission is going to be aggressive in the 2010
schedule and that materials will preferably be handed out at the meeting prior so
that Commissioners will have time to review it in advance. She noted that the
staff has been asked to provide a presentation on March 25th, regarding the
current CZO and whatever updates they would be able to provide on the
Important Ag Lands.
Commissioner Blaich stated that there are about five sections for the major
zoning categories. She stated that the Commission would be interested in
Agriculture and Open Lands. She noted that there is a section on constraint
districts, and special treatment districts in open lands. She questioned whether
there was sufficient definitions and if they were consistent with the subdivision
ordinance.
Chair Souza stated that they were hoping to discuss the public input process in
April and implement it in May or June.
Review of opinions from the County Attorney's Office pertaining to the
authority, duties, and proposals of the Commission.
Executive Session: Pursuant to Hawai'i Revised Statutes Sections 92-4
and 92-5(a)(4), the purpose of this executive session was to consult with
the County's legal counsel on questions and issues relating to the above
item. This consultation involved consideration of the Commission's
powers, duties, privileges, immunities, and/or liabilities with regard to this
agenda item.
MOTION:
It was moved by Beryl Blaich and seconded by Johanna Ventura to move
into executive session.
All were in favor by unanimous voice vote — motion passed.
The Commission moved into executive session.
NEW BUSINESS
Discussion of itinerary of sites for the upcoming North shore field trip,
including logistics and discussion of issues relevant to sites on the trip
itinerary. (Public input was received).
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The Commission received testimony from public members Hope and Tim Kallai.
Ms. Kallai stated that she is a member of Malama Moloa'a and the Kilauea
Neighborhood Association. She stated that some members of the Sierra Club
presented information about a CDUA application on Lepeuli that was for an after
the fact permitting situation that has potential to impact two separate trails of
concern to the Klauea community; the mauka makai County right-of-way and the
alaloa around the whole island. She said the Paradise Ranch is applying for
Federal funds to fence off the makai portion of the ahupuaa landholding of Waioli
Corp. She said the Kilauea community found out about it about a week before
the closure period of the comment period and there has been confusion about
the County right-of-way because what the public has been using for years was in
the wrong place.
Commissioner Ventura questioned if Ms. Kallai was speaking as a private citizen.
Ms. Kallai said that they heard about the situation while wearing other hats, but
they were testifying on behalf of their children and grandchildren. She asked if
the Commission's field trip would be open to the public.
Commissioner Blaich stated that the public can meet the Commission at
designated stops and point things out, but the Commission would not be able to
have discussion while on the field trip until subsequent meetings.
Ms. Kallai stated that they were a part of the Kaleo program and thought that
there was a clear vision of a trail around the island reviving the whole trail
system. She said the coastal alaloa was one of the first things noted on the early
maps. She said they just became aware that there is only 40 feet of County
beach access between Anahola and the Kilauea River, but proof of the alaloa
exists throughout map history. She said the Ka'aka'aniu reef system fronts 3
ahupuaas; Ka'aka'aniu, Lepeuli and Waipake, and it is probably the best reef for
limu and fishing. She said that Queen Lili'uokalani signed a highways act in
November of 1892 and anything in existence then became public. She said
there has been fencing of the trail in a dangerous location and you are no longer
able to access Ka'aka'aniu from Moloa'a. She said that when they tried to go
down what they thought was the County right-of-way Police officers told them
they would be arrested if they proceeded. She said the County issued an SMA
minor and stipulated that the project does not block the County right of way or the
coastal alaloa. She stated that the cultural sites contiguous to this trail system
are one of the oldest sites in the Koolau district so there is a lot of archaeological
significance. She said the Na Ala Hele minutes in the 1990s discuss the area as
being one of the oldest archaeological sites in Hawai'i. She referenced a story
written by Bill Huddy for Kamehameha Schools stating that limu pickers would
start at Moloa'a and go all the way to Kalihiwai. She said the County has been
maintaining a trail that isn't in their legal right of way and there is a fence that has
been put up in the conservation district that blocks public access. She stated
that the Paradise Ranch is asking for $73,500 of public funds to put up a fence
line in the conservation district that would cut off both trails.
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Commissioner Ventura questioned what agency the funds were being requested
from.
Ms. Kallai stated that the funds were being requested from NRCS. She said they
have a conservation plan identifying it as upland habitat and wildlife
enhancement. She noted that albatross are not mutually compatible with cows.
She stated that there are errors in the conservation plan and the public has not
been allowed to comment on it. She stated that all of the history, biology, and
erosion have been done by the applicant's attorney.
Commissioner Ventura questioned the bird sanctuary sign in the PowerPoint
slide.
Ms. Kallai stated that the photo was taken on the other side of the Hanwright
property in Ka'aka'aniu. She noted that albatrosses are not an endangered
species, but the private land owner has fenced off the property indicating that
there are endangered birds. She said that Ka'aka'aniu is the only managed
marine area that has documentation of 100 years of tending to the limu.
Commissioner Blaich noted that there was a public comment period, but there
was no public hearing.
Ms. Kallai stated that the public comment period was closed on October 23rd,
and the agency public comment period is still open until approved or until
February 23rd passes. She noted that there was no public hearing, public input,
or cultural user input. She said there were kuleana lands but they have not
looked for archaeology. She felt it needs to be opened up to the community.
She stated that the DLNR has received 50 responses, but don't ever reply. She
stated that all responses have been from the applicant's attorney. She stated
that there are lineal descendants of the kuleana lands that haven't been asked.
She noted that the County could request that the State reseat the Kaua'i faction
of the Na Ala Hele. She said that Kaua'i is the only island without a Na Ala Hele
committee. She noted that Aunty Loke couldn't access the reef to weed the limu.
She felt that the community should talk about it before allowing access to be cut
off to the two trails. She thanked the Commission for their time and encouraged
the Commission to view the situation during their field trip.
The Commission received testimony from Peter Waldo.
Mr. Waldo distributed copies of the correspondence from Councilwoman
Kawahara to Laura Thielen, Chair of the Board of Land and Natural Resources
and a TMK map from 'Aliomanu to Moloa'a Bay. He stated that the section north
of Moloa'a Bay was originally addressed by the Courts in 1932 as having a trail
reservation in the deed for the property over and across the land, along the high
water mark, the location to be determined by the Commissioner of Public Lands.
He stated that the DLNR is now what used to be the Commissioner of Public
Lands. He noted that section of trails was transferred to the Na Ala Hele State
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trails system. He said the trail from Moloa'a Bay goes along the bluff to the sign
where the trail is fenced off. He said he lived there for 15 years and always was
able to pass through. He noted that the whole central coastal strip is still owned
by the State. He said that Larson's Beach Road is open, but once you leave the
parking lot it is accessible for about 100 feet, then it is fenced off and you are not
able to get to the County owned right of way.
Commissioner Blaich noted that the fence is the next property owner's fence, but
the puzzlement to the public is that the true access that the County purchased is
somewhere on the other side of the fence. According to the landowner the
access that everyone was using is not where the access was supposed to be.
Deputy County Attorney Dahilig clarified that the County surveyor has placed
pins where the recorded access is. He stated that the recorded access starts off
at the end of the road but runs diagonally through the fence line. He said
theoretically the access is accessible if you go around the tree, but he said that
the concern that the public has raised is that the trail over the rocks is precarious
and ends up in a tidal area that sometimes has sand and sometimes does not.
He said the customary access has been on private property. He said the legal
trail can be accessed around the tree which would be about 30 to 40 yards of
path on the other side of the fence. He stated that there are some other legal
matters that are currently in discussion.
Commissioner Blaich asked about the Northerly section of Ka'aka'aniu and
whether Mr. Waldo was familiar with a fisherman's access.
Mr. Waldo stated that they had a meeting regarding shoreline certification a few
months ago and the manager of Falco Limited Partners property at Waipake
adjoining the Waioli property stated that they were required to establish a public
access as part of their subdivision approval. They indicated that it is along the
boundaries between the two properties and the parking would be up at Koolau
Road. He didn't believe it was final.
Commissioner Blaich questioned access to P7a'a Beach.
Ms. Kallai stated that there is barbed wire to the rocks going down into the
ocean. She stated that only people who can get through the gate can access the
beach but it is rough. She stated that there is a 10 foot County easement on
Waiakalua that connects to the Kapinao 8 foot easement that goes lateral.
She stated that there are only a few missing links in the entire lei of trail from
Llhu'e to Kilauea Point. She noted that access to the shoreline laws prohibit
fencing down to the boulders obstructing lateral beach traffic. She stated that
P1a'a needs beach access and pointed out that there isn't much County
controlled beach access along this stretch.
Commissioner Ventura noted that the graphics and data that Ms. Kallai
presented today are available in her December 10th communication to the
Commission.
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Chair Souza thanked the public for their testimony. She clarified that the
Commission does not allow lobbying during the field trip. She stated that the
public can present testimony at other meetings in which the field trip is
discussed. She stated that the Commission will be starting the meeting on the
field trip day, and the public would be able to attend the meeting to testify, and
meet the Commission at designated times along the route, but they would only
be able to present information, not lobby due to Sunshine Law requirements.
She said that the information that was presented provided good background.
(5 Minute Break)
Commissioner Blaich stated that they could take a while at Ka'aka'aniu because
there are three trails to assess. She stated that if the Commission wants to go to
Moloa'a, they would need to get out of the car to see where the trail starts, but
not walk the trail. She stated that the trail historically went all the way to Larson's
but the trail is fenced off half way. She said they can look at the Bay and the
direction that the trail goes which should take 30 minutes, or they could go
straight to Larson's and see where the trail should go. She noted that
Commissioner Dela Cruz had never been to Rock Quarry Beach and questioned
whether the Commission wanted to view it.
Chair Souza stated that she would be okay with a drive by.
Commissioner Kinnaman questioned Pla'a.
Ms. Sadora stated that she had provided information to Deputy County Attorney
Dahilig for follow-up on what would be necessary to visit that area.
Commissioner Blaich stated that they would be able to drive by the Kauapea
Beach Road. She suggested stopping at 'Anini for lunch and arrive in Princeville
by 1 pm. She felt they should view the hotel situation, the challenges of the
Queen's Bath access, and the parking situation.
Chair Souza suggested driving by the cliffs to view the no parking signage. She
requested that staff follow-up on permission to drive on the roadways.
Commissioner Blaich also stated that there have been complaints regarding an
inadequate staging area for hunters between mile 19 and 18 that they may want
to note.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION:
It was moved by Beryl Blaich and seconded by Johanna Ventura to adjourn
the meeting.
All were in favor by unanimous voice vote — motion passed.
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Meeting adjourned at 4:33 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by:
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Duke Nakamatsu,
Support Clerk
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