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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011-8-25 Open Space Commission Minutes COUNTY OF KAUAI PUBLIC ACCESS, OPEN SPACE, & NATURAL RESOURCES PRESERVATION FUND COMMISSION Liliu'e Civic Center, Moikeha Building, Meeting Room 2A/213 MINUTES A regular meeting of the County of Kauai, Public Access, Open Space, & Natural Resources Preservation Fund Commission of the County of Kaua'i was held on August 25, 2011 in the Lihu'e Civic Center, Moikeha Building Meeting Room 2A/2B. The following Commissioners were present: Tessie Kinnaman, Chairperson, Johanna Ventura, Vice-Chairperson, Linda Dela Cruz, Maurice Nakahara, and Jean Souza. The following Commissioners were absent: Nathaniel Childs, and three (3) vacancies. The following staff members were present: Nani Sadora, Duke Nakamatsu, and Deputy County Attorney Mauna Kea Trask for Ian Jung. CALL TO ORDER Chair Kinnaman called the meeting to order at 1:05 p.m. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: It was moved by Jean Souza and seconded by Maurice Nakahara to approve the agenda. All were in favor by unanimous voice vote — motion passed. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES — Regular meeting minutes of 7/14/11, 7/28/11, and 8/11/11. Regular meeting minutes of 7/14/11 — deferred. MOTION: It was moved by Jean Souza and seconded by Johanna Ventura to defer approval of the 7/14/11 meeting minutes. All were in favor by unanimous voice vote — motion passed. Regular meeting minutes of 7/28/11 — approved. I Commissioner Ventura questioned the definition of the acronym FONSI. Deputy County Attorney Trask stated that FONSI is finding of no significant impact. He stated when an environmental impact statement is done, a FONSI would be the document that states nothing was found. Commissioner Ventura questioned if a FONSI is done by an agency or prepared by the land owner who is seeking a permit. Deputy County Attorney Trask stated that it is usually prepared by the consultant for the applicant and it's accepted by the agency. Chair Kinnaman stated that it is usually a State agency that deals with environmental impact statements. MOTION: It was moved by Maurice Nakahara and seconded by Linda Dela Cruz to approve the 7/28/11 meeting minutes. All were in favor by unanimous voice vote — motion passed. Regular meeting minutes of 8/11/11 — deferred. MOTION: It was moved by Johanna Ventura and seconded by Linda Dela Cruz to defer approval of the 8/11/11 meeting minutes. All were in favor by unanimous voice vote — motion passed. ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no announcements from staff. RECEIPT OF ITEMS FOR THE RECORD There were no items to receive for the record. 2 UNFINISHED BUSINESS Status of filling of vacant Commissioner positions. Ms. Sadora stated that there might be an update forthcoming from the Mayor's office by the end of the day regarding their recruitment. She stated that Council has appointed Joseph Figaroa for the Anahola-Ha'ena position. Commissioner Ventura questioned whether the nominees are briefed on the meeting schedule as part of the vetting process. Ms. Sadora stated that the Council does inform the applicants of the Commission's meeting schedule and noted that orientation packets are also been sent by the staff that includes the calendar. She stated that staff will arrange to have the Council appointee sworn in at the next meeting. Review and discussion on draft dossiers for Council's consideration on recommended sites for acquisition. Access to Kukui`ula Bay through the former Hoban property (previously listed as Former Hoban Property) Ms. Sadora stated that Deputy County Attorney Jung is working on this project with the Administration and is requesting that the Commission defer submitting the dossier to the Council. Chair Kinnaman questioned if there has been discussion with the land owner. Ms. Sadora stated that there is activity that includes the land owner but she has not been updated on any conversations. She stated that Deputy County Attorney Jung can speak on this item at the next meeting. Salt Pond Beach Park Expansion (Mauka and West) and Buffer Area for Protection of Hanapepe Salt Pans (previously listed as Salt Pond Park Expansion) Ms. Sadora questioned if the Commission intends to provide a dossier to Council prior to the community input process or if they wanted to consider the input that will be received in October first. Commissioner Ventura felt it would be beneficial to have the community meeting and invite stakeholders to share their thoughts about the issues. She noted that during the public testimony at the last meeting, Mr. Nobrega stated that he did not feel it would be a good idea to block vehicular access to the camping sites. 3 Commissioner Souza stated that the Commission did not address the camping sites on the Puolu Point side of the beach park. Commissioner Ventura stated that the Commission's recommendation was to expand the beach park west and mauka with the intent of buffering the salt pans from excess activity nearby. She stated that it had been reported to the Commission that there were impacts from vehicles in the area. She stated that Mr. Nobrega did not perceive that to be a problem and that the major threat was the lack of sewage lines from the restrooms at the park. Commissioner Souza stated that the proposal for mauka and westward expansion of the park would be on the mauka side not the airfield side. She stated that there could potentially be a link between decreasing the impacts on the airfield side if you have more of a park and buffer area, but at the moment they are separate. She stated that the camping area is currently on the boundary of the salt pans and it is a potentially incompatible use. She stated that moving the camping area away from the ponds could eliminate some of the adverse impacts. She noted that water flows from mauka to makai and from the land mauka and westward of the park into the pond, so water quality could potentially improve by having the proposal implemented. She noted that there are a bunch of other issues from the air field side and from the camping area next to the airfield that could potentially be addressed if the Commission's scope is expanded. Commissioner Ventura stated that if she understood Mr. Nobrega's testimony correctly, it was his impression that an expansion of the park would result in more users and the number one impact is the sewage from the restrooms. Expansion is of significant concern because it would be viewed as increasing the impact. She stated that the Commission invited him to submit a letter on behalf of their hui. She felt it would be good to have an extended discussion with the stakeholders at the park so that whatever information is provided in the dossier will reflect what was heard from the public. She felt that Mr. Nobrega had seen the draft, was not satisfied with the content, and didn't necessarily agree with some of the findings that were noted. Deputy County Attorney Trask questioned if the Commission felt it was Mr. Nobrega's impression that a sewer line would be necessary for the preservation of the salt pans which are considered historic or culturally important land areas of the County. Commissioner Ventura stated that Mr. Nobrega felt that there are current impacts. She stated that she asked if the sewage is originating from the park restrooms rather than somewhere mauka, and he believed that the sewage problem was originating from the restrooms. Deputy County Attorney Trask stated that if the public doesn't want to expand the park, but want to protect the salt pans by installing a sewer line, maybe that would be allowable. He stated that in unique circumstances, the Commission might be able to recommend the spending of the money on infrastructure. 4 Chair Kinnaman stated that the restrooms fall under Public Works and have been closed several times in the past. She stated that the pans and Puolu Point fall under the State. Deputy County Attorney Trask stated that the County might be able to install a sewer line on the County property. Commissioner Ventura stated that there might be other opportunities where signage or the maintenance of steps could enhance the preservation of public access. She felt it would be important to have an interpretation. She also felt that the Commission would also want to understand what the provable impact is in terms of the water quality in the area and understanding the source of the water. Commissioner Souza noted the Commission is stating that there are problems in terms of how crowded the park is and they can consider how best to allocate the funds to ensure that more land is included. She stated that how it gets expanded and whether it is contingent upon the installation of a sewer line would be up to the County. Deputy County Attorney Trask stated that the Commission is only making a recommendation, but if it is allowable, they could recommend installation of a sewer line which may be doable because they are not asking for Public Works to spend more money or acquire land. Commissioner Souza stated that it comes down to money and the vision for the future. She stated that with the demise of sugar and the leases being short term, there are opportunities for the land to meet public needs. Deputy County Attorney Trask stated there is not an all-encompassing study of the hydrology of Hanapepe. He stated that public input from the salt makers and campers is a good starting point. Commissioner Souza stated that she has no problem with deferring the dossier for this project until after the public input because it would be important to talk about the problems and solutions. Commissioner Ventura felt that another issue that prompted the testimony was that if Commission's intent was to recommend expanding the park due to overcrowding, it is possible that expansion of the park will result in even more people. She felt that it would be a good idea to have the meeting at that park to hear whether the community sees the potential for the park expanding as a positive thing. Commissioner Nakahara requested being removed from the Salt Pond meeting due to a potential conflict of interest because his family is involved in the salt making. 5 Deputy County Attorney Trask stated that the rules for conflicts of interest deal with financial interest. He stated that they could ask for an opinion from the Board of Ethics. Commissioner Souza clarified that the salt pans are not a financial operation and that the salt cannot be sold so there is no financial benefit that could be derived. Commissioner Nakahara noted that he would not be on island for during the Salt Pond Park meeting anyway. MOTION: It was moved by Johanna Ventura and seconded by Jean Souza to defer the submittal of the Salt Pond park Expansion dossier until the conclusion of the public input process. All were in favor by unanimous voice vote — motion passed. Update and discussion of the 2011 public input process pursuant to Ordinance No. 812 for developing an annual list of priority projects to be reported (2011 Report) to the Kaua'i County Council and the Mayor. Commissioner Ventura stated that she worked on a draft brochure with the understanding that it was the Commission's intent to hold meetings with the investigative team for each location while also to allowing the public to submit other suggestions. She stated that half-sheet inserts would allow a paragraph summary on each of the three meetings, or the Commission may elect to utilize the back panel of the brochure, and the public could still mail the survey back in an envelope. She stated that the current brochure doesn't provide sufficient information on the individual meetings, what kind of knowledge they are seeking, and what the opportunity of the recommendation is. Commissioner Souza suggested that a contact phone number be listed on the inside of the brochure in addition to the front cover. Commissioner Ventura stated that she removed the purposes of the fund from the upper right inside panel. She felt that listing the purposes did not add much since it would be the survey taker's interpretation of the purpose. Commissioner Souza suggested moving the "Come talk with us" section from the right side of the brochure to the left side. Commissioner Ventura agreed that she would prefer less information and simple language. Commissioner Souza stated that the "Come talk with us" section should be followed by "The County of Kauai, Public Access, Open Space, & Natural Resources Preservation Fund Commission is required to solicit public input annually in association with its priority acquisition list." She suggested including the purposes of the fund, and then 6 state "In 2010 the Open Space priority list consisted of the following six recommendations". Then include the locations of the meeting with a sentence explaining that if there are other sites that you would like the Commission to consider feel free to identify them. She noted that the emphasis would be on the six sites, but it would not preclude someone from suggesting something else. Commissioner Ventura stated that she will list the venues with the sites that will be discussed. She felt that the 2nd box of in the survey was not needed. Commissioner Souza agreed that the 2nd box could be removed, but the tax map key number, if available, could be requested in the 1S` box. She stated that they are seeking further understanding to develop a better dossier. Commissioner Ventura suggested including a note that if people are unable to attend they are also welcome to testify at a regular Commission meeting. Commissioner Souza stated that the public could also call staff, and staff could take down the information to share with the Commission. She suggested including a line to call for more information. Commissioner Ventura suggested including in the press release that people can attend any Commission meeting through the end of October for public input. Chair Kinnaman questioned what information will go on the back of the survey. Commissioner Ventura stated that general contact information or history may go on the back in place of the mailer. Commissioner Nakahara stated that aside from the particular sites being discussed, he would like to provide opportunity for the public to indicate other sites that they may be interested in at the community meetings. Commissioner Ventura suggested including a note on the brochures that surveys will be accepted at those meetings. Commissioner Souza suggested having all of the blanks on one page so that anyone faxing the surveys would only need to fax that one page. She suggested tightening the spacing between the lines to provide more room for text, and including the address for the Moikeha building. Commissioner Ventura suggested having individual site links on the web page so that people don't have to download all of the recommendations to view a specific site. She stated that she will bring an updated draft of the survey form at the next meeting. Commissioner Souza suggested that the online survey be as similar to the hard copy as much as possible. 7 Commissioner Ventura stated that the constraints of the investigative team process is that the team needs to present their findings at a Commission meeting and the Commission cannot take action on those findings until a following meeting. She questioned Deputy County Attorney Trask if the Commission could still discuss their report findings as long as no actions are taken. Deputy County Attorney Trask stated that it would depend on how the agenda is worded. He suggested "presentation, discussion, and possible action" then the public would be on notice. He added that the Commission could move to accept discussion prior to accepting the report. Commissioner Souza suggested that the Piwai meeting be held later than 4:30 p.m. to allow the public enough time to transition from work to the meeting. Commissioner Ventura suggested the Piwai meeting be held from 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. She requested verifying with Commissioner Childs that the time will work for him. The Commission agreed that the public input process should be for the month of October. Commissioner Dela Cruz suggested listing the time frame for the meetings so that public would be aware of the time restriction for questions. The Commission agreed on a 1 '/2 hour time frame for the meetings. Commissioner Ventura suggested the possibility of two, one hour sessions with two presentations. Commissioner Souza stated that they could start on time with a 10 minute presentation and state that the first portion would be a large group question and answer session and the second portion would be small break out groups where they can do mapping and note taking. She stated that if there are issues then they can note them one on one instead of in the big session. Commissioner Ventura felt that would be appropriate for Salt Pond and Po'ipu where there may be a lot to talk about. She didn't feel that Piwai would necessarily need breakout sessions since most of that group is probably already participating. Commissioner Souza stated that 3 breakout sessions could be related to the topics, and the 4t" could be for any other suggestions or places to acquire. Commissioner Ventura stated that the program information and what is distributed should be uniform, but the structures of the meetings could be individual. She stated that she will speak with Commissioner Childs about doing two, 1 hour sessions for Piwai that would enable more people to come and then leave. She stated that people who 8 are getting off of work in other towns might want to come to the later session. She questioned if there would be a PowerPoint presentation at each meeting. Chair Kinnaman stated that it would be good to have maps. Commissioner Dela Cruz stated that they would require a screen in order to do a PowerPoint at the pavilion. Commissioner Souza stated that she has a screen and a strong projector. She noted that it would also be darker in October. She stated that a PowerPoint would help the dynamic. Commissioner Dela Cruz questioned if the maps should show the buffer zone. Commissioner Souza stated that there isn't a buffer zone. She stated that it would have to be determined through discussion. Ms. Sadora questioned if the maps would be different from the abstracts. Commissioner Ventura stated that it would depend on each investigative team. She stated that the teams could assemble a list for each meeting. She stated that for the Piwai meeting, she didn't see the emphasis on maps as much as on management strategies. Commissioner Souza stated that if there is a big map then the public could include their names and place sticky notes wherever appropriate on the map. Ms. Sadora stated that it would be good for each team to have an idea on how they want to present the information. Commissioner Ventura agreed that some of the information may not need to be as detailed for each meeting. Commissioner Souza recommended that each site should have a map. Commissioner Ventura stated that it would be ideal for the PowerPoint to be uniform with an additional slide of information specific to each meeting. Chair Kinnaman stated that she and Commissioner Nakahara are requesting just one large map and the report. Commissioner Nakahara stated that they would only need the maps for Hoone Road, Hoban access, and Kaneiolouma. He agreed that they wouldn't need a PowerPoint. He noted that Deputy County Attorney Jung was going to have more information regarding the Hoban property at the next meeting. He requested updated appraised values for each of the sites. 9 Ms. Sadora stated that she would update the information. Chair Kinnaman asked for a deadline for the workshop reports from each committee. Commissioner Ventura suggested the investigative team report deadline as October 27`" but suggested that the survey deadline be at the end of the month. She noted that they need to decide on the draft press release for the workshop meetings. She requested a copy of last year's press release and stated that she would work on the language. Commissioner Souza stated that she could take a look at the draft. Commissioner Ventura stated that she would get a pdf to her by the 5t". She questioned if they could request two press release dates. Chair Souza stated that the first press release could be for all three meetings, then the 2nd one closer to meetings, could be follow up articles. She stated that the best release days would be on Sunday and Wednesday. Commissioner Nakahara noted that all of the shopping ads are now in midweek magazine. The Commission agreed to also send the press release to midweek. The Commission reviewed the PowerPoint presentation from the 2010 Report to the County Council for use at the public input meetings. Commissioner Souza stated that the PowerPoint starts with program background, then the purposes of the fund, 2010 year in review in which there was an expansion of Black Pot Beach Park, and the 2010 public input process. Commissioner Ventura suggested highlighting the year in review to edit. Commissioner Souza stated that they would not need to include the 2010 public input process. She stated that the Commission recommendations were next, then the sites. Commissioner Ventura stated that they would edit the year in review slide and suggested adding one slide for the focus of the meeting including the agenda. Update on proposed amendments to Ordinance 812 Ms. Sadora noted that Deputy County Attorney Jung was following up on the status of where the draft is within the Administration. She has not received any updates. 10 Update on Commission participation at the upcoming Hawai'i Congress of Planning Officials (HCPO) 2011 conference in September on Kaua'i. Ms. Sadora stated that she met with Planning Inspector Les Milnes regarding the North Shore mobile workshop. She stated that she still needs to touch bases with Commissioner Ventura regarding the panel discussion. Commissioner Ventura stated that she has a couple of people who would be willing to speak pending confirmation from Planning Department. She stated that she is trying to find someone to speak about the fisheries project and that people who are involved in that project will be off island that week. She stated that she would follow up with staff next week. Ms. Sadora stated that she will have an updated version of the North Shore itinerary at the next meeting. Commissioner Ventura requested an update on the registration status. Ms. Sadora noted that all of the Commissioners are registered and signed up for their requested mobile workshops. She stated that they should have a final program by next week including the break out sessions. Commissioner Souza stated that she has a map for the North Shore field trip with the ahupuaa and management areas. Ms. Sadora stated that within the next couple of weeks there will be a GIS link for the tours. She noted that registration for both tours have been closed due to the space restriction on the buses. She stated that the only speakers that will be riding on the bus are Dan and Liz Burden and the others will be meeting at specific areas. She stated that Commissioner Souza would be welcomed to participate in the dialog. She said that because there are going to be two busses, the information will be scripted so that the same information will be provided. Commissioner Ventura questioned if participants will be able to access the link and if they will be receiving the information as they drive by. Ms. Sadora stated that people will receive a handout of beneficial information for both to u rs, Commissioner Souza questioned where the talks are going to occur. Commissioner Ventura stated that Waipa will host a panel discussion and the focus would be more on the participants and driven by their questions and comments. Commissioner Souza stated that she can provide a map to display. 11 Commissioner Ventura stated that she would check into the possibility of projecting onto the interior tent wall. Commissioner Kinnaman questioned when the conference ends. Ms. Sadora stated that she believes the conference will end after lunch on Friday. NEW BUSINESS Review and discussion on the Rules of Practice and Procedure of the County of Kaua'i, Public Access, Open Space, & Natural Resources Preservation Fund Commission and policy on communications. Ms. Sadora stated that the reference that Deputy County Attorney Jung mentioned was to the standard Robert's Rules practice. Commissioner Souza stated that her concern was that if one of the commissioners has a communication to share with the others, it should be sent to out without needing the Chair's approval as a standard practice. Commissioner Ventura felt that would be reasonable since it would eliminate the potential for delay on timely delivery. She stated that they were referring to the sharing of information. Commissioner Nakahara stated that Deputy County Attorney Jung said that the Chair would need to approve communications before information is shared to other commissioners. Chair Kinnaman stated that her thought was that it would have to go through the Planning Department to distribute. Commissioner Souza clarified that her communication was sent to staff to be distributed to the other commissioners. She was told that an email that she sent out to staff was not forwarded to other commissioners because it had to go through the Chair to be approved. Chair Kinnaman stated that she thought that was the standard procedure. Commissioner Ventura stated that she recollected that information had been forwarded by commissioners to staff in the past to be shared with commissioners. Commissioner Souza stated that because the Chair does not have email, there is a delay in getting the information out. She noted that one of the public members shared information about public access at Kauapea that was being affected by a private land 12 owner's actions. She felt it was important for the Commission to be notified and there would be a possibility of public testimony. Chair Kinnaman noted that she could have been notified by phone. Commissioner Souza stated that she did not feel that the Chair should be a filter. She questioned why it couldn't automatically be forwarded to the rest of the Commissioners. Chair Kinnaman stated that she would think that communications would have to go through the Department and then be forwarded to the Commission for their information. She didn't feel that they should overstep the Department. Commissioner Ventura stated that her understanding was that Commissioner Souza forwarded something to staff to be circulated to the other commissioners, but staff was advised that standard procedure for other boards was that the Chair approves communications that are circulated. She stated that Commissioner Souza is suggesting that it is appropriate for commissioners to send information to staff requesting that it be circulated to the Commission. She stated that having them approved by the Department would be even more restrictive than the Chair approving it since the Director is busy and it may take even longer for him to review it. She felt that it would be reasonable to share published information as long as they are not trying to sway a decision at an upcoming meeting or advocate. She felt that asking the Chair to be the filter might put the Chair in a precarious position to advocate for or against. Chair Kinnaman stated that it depends on the subject matter. She stated that the Commission would not be responsible for complaints. She stated that general information would be fine. Commissioner Ventura questioned if it was published information. Commissioner Souza stated that she was not aware of this issue with access at Kauapea but the people in Kilauea were aware of it. She noted that because Kauapea has been a topic of the Commission she felt that the Commission would want to be updated. She stated that she assumed that the Commission had gotten the email, and was shocked to find out weeks later that they had not. She stated that she was not aware that staff was instructed not to distribute it. She stated that a similar situation was discussed at the Council where the Chair would determine who received information. She noted that when Commissioner Ventura could not attend the meeting but was working on some language information, it would also have been efficient to have that information forwarded to the Commission. Commissioner Ventura stated that in fairness to staff, she had sent the information just minutes before the meeting. She noted that her work was actually draft language for a motion, so it could have been interpreted as advocating for a decision outside of a meeting, but she felt that if a communication was written by someone else and either published or was a community email that was being circulated, it would be okay. 13 Chair Kinnaman questioned if the email was addressed to the Commission or just to staff. Commissioner Souza stated that it was sent to staff asking that it be shared with the other commissioners. Ms. Sadora stated that it was a controversial issue. She noted that Commissioner Souza had requested that the email be forwarded as not being sent from her. She stated that she thought she responded to Commissioner Souza that the email was being forwarded to the Deputy County Attorney for his instructions on how to circulate the information. She stated that decisions regarding controversial issues cannot only be determined by staff. She agreed that the lesson is that communication should be made to provide the end result of the decision. Commissioner Souza stated that the expectation was that the information was shared and that it puts the Commission at a disadvantage if they don't receive current information. Ms. Sadora noted that it was privileged information that was not received as a public broadcast. She stated that the Commission can bring the subject up again when Deputy County Attorney Jung is present as to how it was handled. Commissioner Souza stated that she felt the Commission should clarify what their preference is on communication especially going into another input process. She requested continuing the agenda item at the next meeting. Commissioner Ventura felt that it would be useful to have the conversation. She questioned if the Chair had seen the email. Ms. Sadora stated that it had only been forwarded to the Deputy County Attorney. Chair Kinnaman noted that years back she had addressed testimony that she thought was going to the Planning Commission but she had only addressed it to the staff planner. She stated that when she testified the Commission didn't have it. Commissioner Souza stated that is another process. Ms. Sadora noted that information the Commission circulates prior to the meeting becomes public record and has to be posted online with the agenda. She stated that information that the Commission is using as work product that they want in advance of the meeting also has to be made available to the public. Commissioner Souza suggested that if someone wants to send information to her, she could inform them that it is now going to become public record or request that it be 14 formally submitted to the Commission. She stated that they need to know what the rules are and if it works for them. Commissioner Ventura stated that she recalls receiving notices of articles that was filtered through staff that were published articles. She stated agreed that she would like to understand the rules better. Commissioner Souza stated that they are trying to be efficient in the meetings, and receiving information in a timely manner broadens their knowledge base and helps them to be prepared. Commissioner Ventura stated that it also troubles her that the reason it wasn't sent out was that it had to be approved by the Chair yet the Chair wasn't even given that opportunity. Commissioner Nakahara questioned if the current rules are binding. Commissioner Souza noted that the Commission had just been formed in 2005 when the rules were written to guide the actions with precedence over Robert's Rules. She stated that since it has been 6 years, it may be a good to revisit the rules. She stated that as the proposed Ordinance amendment goes through the process, the rules will need to be reviewed again. Commissioner Ventura noted that page 13 states that the Commission by motion can initiate proceedings for adoption, amendment, repeal. She stated that members of the public can also petition the Commission to change. Commissioner Nakahara announced that he needs to catch the 4:30 p.m. bus. NEXT MEETING DATE AND AGENDA TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION Commissioner Souza suggested removing unfinished business item H. Commissioner Ventura suggested removing Salt Pond Beach Park from the agenda until after the community meetings. She suggested keeping the access to Kukui`ula Bay on the agenda for any updates. Commissioner Souza suggested removing the review and discussion on the Rules of Practice and Procedure of the Commission until a future meeting. Chair Kinnaman questioned if the Commission would like Deputy County Attorney Jung to follow up on the Rules of Practice and Procedure. Commissioner Souza noted that she will not be at the next meeting. 15 Commissioner Nakahara stated that he would be interested in an update. Commissioner Ventura suggested that she did not see the harm of leaving that item on the agenda. She felt that the Commission probably wouldn't get to that agenda item at the next meeting. She stated that there should be a swearing in of Commissioner on the next agenda. Chair Kinnaman noted that elections of Chair and Vice Chair should also take place at the next meeting. ADJOURNMENT MOTION: It was moved by Johanna Ventura and seconded by Maurice Nakahara to adjourn the meeting. All were in favor by unanimous voice vote — motion passed. Meeting adjourned at 4:25 p.m. Resp,ectfully submitted by: Duke Nakamatsu, Support Clerk 16