HomeMy WebLinkAbout101512_Agenda PacketRobert Crowell
Chair
Charles King
Vice -Chair
CALL TO ORDER
Members:
Randy Finlay
Michael Machado
Sheri Kunioka -Volz
Jo Ann Shimamoto
COUNTY OF KAUAI SALARY COMMISSION
NOTICE OF MEETING AND AGENDA
Monday, October 15, 2012
9:00 a.m. or shortly thereafter
Mo'ikeha Building, Meeting Room 2 A/B
4444 Rice Street, Lihu`e, HI 96766
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Regular Open Session Minutes of September 27, 2012
BUSINESS
SC 2012 -14 Discussion and Deliberation on establishing future salary caps including, but not
limited to, fringe benefits of council members and all officers and employees
included in Section 3 -2.1 of the Kauai County Code. (On- going)
(a) Communication dated September 28, 2012 from Chair Robert Crowell
inviting Mayor Bernard P. Carvalho Jr., and requesting the presence of the
Director of Finance Wally Rezentes Jr., to discuss the budget forecast for
fiscal year 2013 -14.
ADJOURNMENT
NOTICE OF EXECUTIVE SESSION
Pursuant to Hawaii Revised Statutes §92 -7 (a). The Commission may, when deemed necessary,
hold an executive session on any agenda item without written public notice if the executive
session was not anticipated in advance. Any such executive session shall be held pursuant to
HRS §92 -4 and shall be limited to those items described n HRS §92 -5(a).
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Minutes of Meeting
OPEN SESSION
Board/Committee:
SALARY COMMISSION
Meeting Date I September 27, 2012
Location
Mo'ikeha Building — Meeting Room 2AB
Start of Meeting: 9:04 a.m.
End of Meeting: 10:36 a.m.
Present
Chair Robert Crowell; Vice -Chair Charles King; Members: Randy Finlay, Michael Machado; Sheri Kunioka -Volz; Jo Ann Shimamoto
Also present: Deputy County Attorney Mona Clark; Board & Commissions Office Staff. Support Clerk Mercedes Youn;
Administrator Paula Morikami; Administrative Aide Teresa Tamura.
Excused
Absent
SUBJECT
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ACTION
Prior to the meeting being called to order, Eddie Topenio, Administrative
Assistant to the County Council, gave the Oath of Office to Commissioner Jo
Ann Shimamoto.
Call to Order
Chair Crowell called the meeting to order at 9:04
a.m.
Chair Crowell gave a warm welcome and expressed his appreciation to
Commissioner Shimamoto for volunteering her time to serve on the Salary
Commission.
Approval of
Regular Open Session Minutes of June 14, 2012.
Mr. King moved to approve the minutes as
Minutes
circulated. Ms. Kunioka -Volz seconded the
motion.
Motion carried 6:0
Business
SC 2012 -14 Discussion and deliberation on establishing future salaries
caps including, but not limited to fringe benefits of council members and
all officers and employees included in Section 3 -2.1 of the Kauai County
Code.
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Chair Crowell said that the information that was circulated to the
Commission by mail showed that the salaries for the appointees and the
County Council were comparable to the other counties. Chair Crowell
shared his experience when he had to appear before the County Council in
May 2012 to answer questions relating to Resolution 2012 -1. He pointed
out that he had promised the County Council that the Salary Commission
was committed in providing them with its recommendation before the
March 15th deadline for fiscal year 2013 -14.
Commissioner King questioned whether the recommendation would be
outside of the current Resolution 2012 -1 which indicates a salary increase
effective July 1, 2013.
Chair Crowell said that with the current resolution in place should the
Commission decide not to do anything, the salary increases would go into
effect on July 1, 2013. He felt that it is incumbent of the Commission to
affirm whether the current resolution should remain in place or amend it.
He pointed out that certain developments had occurred as a result of the
Mayor signing an Executive Order that increased the salaries for the
Excluded Managerial positions in both the Fire and Police Department. As
a result, it created another significant salary inversion.
Chair Crowell explained that in addition to the reports that were in the
meeting packets, Staff handed out a report that included the pay rates for
both the Council Chair and Council members. Mr. Finlay noted that after
he reviewed the information, he observed that the salaries were in line with
the other counties. Ms. Kunioka -Volz stated that she agrees and expressed
her concern that some of the positions held higher salaries. Mr. Finlay
noted that there were certain positions whose salaries were a bit higher but
not signifi cant enough for concern.
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Ms. Kunioka -Volz asked whether the Commission should compare the
budget from each county. Mr. Finlay stated that he agreed and that it
should include the number of employees in each county. He gave an
example that for the City and County of Honolulu, which is a much bigger
organization, one could argue that even large organizations have the same
amount of work as their counter parts.
Mr. Finlay stated that the study emphasized only the comparative analysis
of the other counties and the positions within the Kauai County, which
includes a detailed analysis of salaries paid for the different EM positions
as well as similar jobs in the other counties. Mr. Finlay voiced his concern
that the study did not take into consideration the private sector and that the
study preambles back to a period in 2008 which showed that they were
more concerned about the shrinking labor pool and how difficult it was for
the County to retain people.
Mr. Finlay indicated that he had hoped that the NASH Study showed a
broader study of the private sector as well as the benefits associated with
being a public worker in comparison to the private sector. Mr. Finlay
explained that in the private sector when a person retires they do not have
the luxury of continuing health care benefits or have an undated pension
plan. The only retirement plan that the private sector offers is a 401K. Mr.
Finlay commented that he was glad that the Commission had decided not
to go forward with another costly compensation study because it would not
have helped the Commission with its ultimate goal, which is to set the
salary caps.
Additionally, Mr. Finlay pointed out that the number of jobs in the private
sector is continuing to diminish and that the compensation packages are
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being reduced. He suggested that the Commission should keep that in
mind during its discussion on raising the compensation packages for public
workers.
Ms. Kunioka -Volz informed the Commission that the State had reduced its
retirement benefits for its new employees. Mr. Finlay asked Ms. Kunioka-
Volz if she could explain in detail the benefit package for its employees
and what it entails. Ms. Kunioka -Volz explained that the State has a
defined benefit plan and the contributions are mandated. She further
explained that what an employee earns is determined by the type of
retirement plan and the employee's job category. In general, all current
employees earn an average of 4.50 percent interest and the newer
employees would earn half of that percent.
Mr. Finlay asked whether the State's retirement benefit is based on the
employee's own contribution towards their retirement. Ms. Kunioka -Volz
explained that it is mandated for each employee to contribute a percentage
of their earnings and in turn they are guaranteed a rate of return. She
further explained that all senior employees contribute an average of 4.50
percent and the newer employee contributes 2.25 percent of their earnings.
Mr. Finlay commented that the State retirement system is very different
from the private sector which only offers 401(k) plans which allows the
individual to choose what they would like to put aside for their own
retirement.
Mr. Finlay questioned whether a retiree of the State has the option to take
all of their retirement in a lump sum. Ms. Kunioka -Volz stated yes, which
includes a lifetime pension. Mr. Finlay asked how the life time pension is
funded. Ms. Kunioka -Volz answered through the employer and the
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investment earnings of the employees contributions.
Mr. King commented that many private companies have a defined benefit
plan other than your normal pension plan.
Mr. Finlay asked Ms. Kunioka -Volz if she could explain the details of the
medical benefits plan for the State retirees. Ms. Kunioka- Volz explained
that in 2001 the State changed its medical benefits coverage where it no
longer covers the retiree's family members and that it only covers the
retiree for life. In addition, the State has imposed years of service and age
requirement.
Mr. Finlay suggested that the Commission keep that in context when it
comes time to determine the salary caps. He indicated that the benefits
package for the public sector is far better than the private sector. Ms.
Kunioka -Volz agreed and noted that there is a great disparity between the
civil service employees and the appointed positions listed in Resolution
2012 -1.
Chair Crowell pointed out that because the Mayor signed an Executive
Order, the base pay for the assistant chiefs in the Police Department have
increased to $120,000. which he believes is an EM -8 level position. Chair
Crowell asked whether the Commission should consider time and grade
when it comes time to determine the salary caps. He indicated that some of
the individuals have over twenty years of service in which he felt they
should make more than their respective department heads. Chair Crowell
then questioned whether the Commission should take a position in which
no subordinate should make more than their department head and that the
department head should always have the higher pay.
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Chair Crowell stated that the base pay for the assistant chiefs is at the
$120,000 mark and was negotiated by SHOPO (State of Hawaii
Organization of Police Officers) back in 2009. He explained that at the
time the salary increase was to take effect, the Mayor decided to freeze the
salaries for the Excluded Managerial positions and that he was unsure why
the Mayor had decided to freeze the salaries for the EM's and whether or
not there was a lawsuit.
Ms. Morikami explained that the reason the Mayor signed the Executive
Order was to correct a problem in which the Excluded Managerial
positions were not included at a time when they should have been given the
salary increase.
Mr. King asked whether that meant that the salaries for the assistant chiefs
are now higher than the Chief of Police and their counter parts on the other
islands, excluding Oahu. Chair Crowell answered yes.
Mr. Finlay reiterated what Chair Crowell said about the individuals who
have over twenty years of service in which he felt that they should be
making more than their department head based on their years of service
versus an individual who has only five years of service and accepts the
Chief of Police position.
Mr. King commented that it would seem logical if you want someone who
has the experience and has over twenty years of service to step up and
accept the Chief of Police position. Mr. Finlay commented that it doesn't
always work that way because who would want to take a position that pays
less. Mr. King agreed that no one would want to take a $6,000 pay
decrease.
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Mr. Machado stated that from what he understood the reason why the rank
and file in the Police Department made more than the Police Chief was due
to overtime. Ms. Kunioka -Volz agreed.
Chair Crowell stated that prior to the Commissions' recommendation to
increase the salary cap for the Chief of Police from $107, 335 to $114,490
the base pay for the assistant chiefs was also $107,000 with the potential of
making overtime. Chair Crowell indicated that because they had the ability
to accumulate overtime and make more money, no one wanted to move up
to take the Deputy Police Chief position.
Ms. Kunioka -Volz questioned whether it was appropriate to award
managers who cannot manage the overtime in the Police Department. Mr.
Finlay stated that although he agrees with Ms. Kunioka -Volz, it is the way
the system has been for years and that the Commission can only cap the
salaries for certain positions. He noted that unless there is a Commission
with the authority to control the entire system, you cannot stop the
inversions from occurring.
Mr. Finlay referred back to a previous meeting when Police Commissioner
Charles Iona and former SHOPO negotiator, came before the Salary
Commission and told the Commission that SHOPO uses the cap set by the
Salary Commission as a benchmark to adjust the salaries for the rank and
file. Mr. Finlay voiced his concern that the Salary Commission cannot
continue to chase the inversions simply because the only way to solve the
inversion problem is to keep raising the salaries. Mr. Finlay felt that it is
simply not the right time for the Commission to recommend raises for the
positions listed in Resolution 2012 -1.
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Mr. Machado stated that from what he understood, the reason why the
Commission justified the salary increase for the Chief of Police was due to
the fact that the Police Department could not retain or find qualified
individuals because of the inversion problem. Mr. Machado further
indicated that he had concerns about SHOPO using the salary cap as a
benchmark to determine the salaries for the rank and file. However, the
Salary Commission has no control over that.
Ms. Kunioka -Volz pointed out that the problem seems only within the
Police Department and not with the other departments which could mean
that it is a management problem. Mr. Machado stated that he felt the best
solution that he could think of is to hire additional people to fill the
vacancies in the Police Department. However, from what he understood
there were no funds in the Police Department's budget.
Ms. Kunioka -Volz stated that she may be wrong, but she believes that there
were funds allocated to fill the vacant positions in the Police Department.
Ms. Kunioka -Volz noted that the problem could stem from how the Police
Department conducts its background search and from what she understands
the process was very lengthy.
Chair Crowell stated that the Commission's next step is to determine
whether or not to amend Resolution 2012 -1 or leave it as it is currently
written. He suggested that the Commissioners take more time to review
the information that was provided by Mr. Thomas Takatsuki and continue
its discussion in October. He reminded the Commission that he had
assured the County Council that the Salary Commission would present its
recommendation on or before the March 15th deadline.
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Mr. Finlay indicated that he was not making a proposal but one option to
consider is to vote on a new resolution to defer the salary increase effective
July 1, 2013 to July 1, 2014. He stated that he was really hopeful that by
now the economy would have improved and jobs were available but it does
not seem that way for the average taxpayer.
Ms. Kunioka -Volz stated that it would be helpful for this Commission to
have the Director of Finance present at the Commission meeting to provide
input on the County's financial stability for fiscal year 2013 -14.
Chair Crowell stated that he agrees with Ms. Kunioka -Volz, and instructed
Staff to contact the Director of Finance to see whether he would be
available to attend the meeting in October. Mr. Finlay stated that it would
be a lot easier for the County to balance the budget if the automatic pay
increase effective on July 1, 2013 was extended at least for another year.
He noted that the 7 percent increase is astronomical in today's world when
other people are still negotiating 3 to 5 percent pay cuts.
Ms. Kunioka -Volz stated that the State is going on its second year 5
percent pay cut. Chair Crowell asked whether the State is in the process of
negotiating a new contract to take effect July 1, 2013. Mr. King stated that
it's the department heads that are taking a cut so there would be no
negotiating. Chair Crowell stated that he was referring to the rank and file.
Chair Crowell asked whether it would be simpler for the Commission to
make comparisons between the different counties regarding the positions
listed in Resolution 2012 -1.
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Mr. Machado asked whether the salaries that are listed in Resolution 2012-
2 are salary caps. Ms. Kunioka -Volz indicated that the salaries listed in
Resolution 2012 -1 are all salary caps and historically whatever the cap is
set it becomes the salary wage. Chair Crowell added that although the
Salary Commission sets the cap, it's the appointing authority that can set
the salary at a lower level.
Ms. Shimamoto stated that based on the discussion on comparisons, she
asked whether the Commission would consider looking into the forecast of
the County's budget because it would not make any sense to grant the
salary increases if the County is asking each department to cut their budget.
Ms. Shimamoto referred to the 7 percent increase and said that as a former
rank and file employee for the County she has not seen a 7 percent increase
for quite some time now. She suggested that the Commission take that into
consideration during its future discussions.
Ms. Shimamoto restated Mr. Finlay's question on whether the department
heads should always make more than the top paid rank and file. Ms.
Shimamoto indicated that a lot of the rank and file employees have
tremendous knowledge that makes their department run smoothly. She
suggested that the Commission take that into consideration.
Mr. King noted that the 7 percent increase for the salary caps was
established in 2008 which was supposed to have taken effect in 2011.
However, the salaries were frozen for 2 years so it's hard to say that its 7
seven percent per anum. It's 7 percent over the previous wage.
Mr. Finlay stated that Ms. Kunioka -Volz brought up a good point that
having the Budget Director at the Commission's next meeting would be
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very helpful for the Commission to determine whether to recommend an
increase, lower or defer it by the end of this year. Mr. King commented
that it would then be up to the Council and the Administration to figure it
out.
Ms. Morikami shared with the Commission the concerns of the County
Council that certain positions like the "County Engineer" require having
different certificates or a professional license and should those salaries be
adjusted differently from the other positions instead of just straight across
the board, such as a two or three tier pay system.
Ms. Kunioka -Volz indicated that the same approach was taken when the
Commission justified the pay increase for the Police and Fire because it
was based on the risk level. Mr. Finlay pointed out that the only way to
solve that problem is through raises for certain positions but only if the
economy showed signs that it was improving.
Mr. King questioned how one would justify the salary cap of $107,000 for
the Director of Parks and Recreation versus $103,000 cap for Human
Resources Director. Mr. Machado questioned whether in the past the
Salary Commission ever reduced the salary caps.
Chair Crowell asked the members to keep in mind that the Commission
does not have to base its recommendations on the 7 percent increase and
that it could lower the percentage. Mr. King suggested to the Commission
that perhaps it would make sense for the Commission to first determine
which department justifies giving a raise to, and keep the others status quo
as oppose to a cut.
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Mr. Machado voiced his concern that it may trigger each department to
come before the Salary Commission just to justify their reasons for a raise.
Mr. King pointed out that the Report on salary history showed that between
October 1, 1988 and December 1, 1988 certain positions suffered a pay cut.
Ms. Kunioka -Volz stated that she found it interesting that a lot of weight
was placed on filling the positions for the Fire and Police but not for the
County Engineer position.
Ms. Kunioka -Volz pointed out that the report on the Current Pay Rate/
Comparison of Executive Pay Rates for State and Counties, certain
positions from the other counties did not include a salary amount. Mr.
King pointed out that there was also a typo regarding the salary for the
Maui Chief of Police.
Mr. Finlay questioned whether it would be appropriate to request financial
information from the Council Chair and the Mayor regarding the budget for
fiscal year 2013 -14 and how much of an impact would it have on their total
assets /revenues. Mr. Finlay indicated that the Mayor has been a proponent
for the salary freeze for quite some time now and that it would be
interesting to see if he still felt the same. Chair Crowell stated that he
doesn't think that it is out of the question to ask the Mayor to come to the
next meeting or to send one of his representatives. Mr. King suggested
that it would be appropriate for the Commission to invite the Mayor to the
next meeting rather than request his presence.
Ms. Shimamoto stated that the proper protocol would be to send a memo to
the Mayor that the Salary Commission would like to invite him to the
meeting along with a request for the presence of the Director of Finance.
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Mr. Finlay shared his position that he is going to recommend a deferral of
the salary increases but would be open to hear other arguments.
Staff acknowledged the request and will send a memo to the Mayor that the
Salary Commission would like to invite him to the meeting along with a
request for the presence of the Director of Finance to attend the meeting in
October to discuss the budget forecast for fiscal year 2013 -14.
Mr. Machado asked whether in the operating budget report for all counties,
does the budget include the salaries for each of the departments? Mr.
Finlay clarified that the numbers represent the operating budget that
includes the salaries/benefits.
SC 2012 -15 Communication dated 9/04/12 from Malcolm Fernandez
Director of Personnel Services, to Chair Robert Crowell and Members of
the Salary Commission regarding the performance evaluations and
increases for executive appointees.
Chair Crowell called for a motion to receive item SC 2012 -15.
Mr. King moved to receive item SC 2012 -15 for
the record. Ms. Kunioka -Volz seconded the
motion.
Ms. Kunioka -Volz asked why the effective dates were different from the
July 1, 2012 date indicated in Resolution 2012 -1. Ms. Tamura explained
that the requirements for salary increases include the Director of Personnel
Services receipt of a memo from the appointing authority at least thirty
days prior to the increase certifying that the appointee's performance has
been evaluated pursuant to procedures established by the Director of
Personnel Services.
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Chair Crowell called for the vote to receive item SC 2012 -15 as circulated.
Motion carried 6:0
SC 2012 -16 Discussion and decision - making on establishing_ meeting dates
for the remainder of the 2012 calendar year.
The Commission reached a consensus and selected October 15I' as its next
meeting date. Additionally, if needed, the Commission selected November
16ffi as its tentative meeting date.
Adjournment
Mr. Machado moved to adjourn the meeting at
10:36 a.m. Mr. King seconded the motion.
Motion carried 6:0
Submitted by:
Mercedes Youn, Staff Support Clerk
() Approved as circulated (add date of meeting approval).
() Approved as amended. See minutes of meeting.
Reviewed and Approved by:
Robert Crowell, Chair
Robert Crowell
Chair
Charles King
Vice -Chair
YE r i
Members:
Randy Finlay
Michael Machado
Sheri Kunioka Volz
COUNTY OF KAUAI SALARY CONII0SSION
MEMORANDUM
TO: Mayor Bernard P. Carvalho, Jr.
Wally Rezentes, Finance Director
FROM: Robert Crowell, Chair
VIA: Paula Morikami, Office of Boards and Commissions Admini
CC: Gary Heu, Managing Director
DATE: September 28, 2012
SUBJECT: Budget Forecast for Next Fiscal Year 2013 -2014
The Salary Commission would like to invite Mayor Bernard P. Carvalho, Jr. and request
Wally Rezentes, the Director of Finance to attend its next meeting on Monday, October 15, 2012
to discuss the budget forecast for next fiscal year 2013 -2014. The meeting will be located in the
Mo'ikeha Building, Meeting Room 2A/B at 9:00 am. If you have any questions, please contact
Mercedes Youn, ext. 4920. Thank you.