HomeMy WebLinkAboutpc sd 10-8-13 minutes (2) KAUAI PLANNING COMMISSION
SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE MEETING
October 8,2013
The regular meeting of the Planning Commission Subdivision Committee of the County
of Kauai was called to order by Committee Chair Jan Kimura at 8:40 a.m., at the Lihu`e Civic
Center, Mo`ikeha Building, in meeting room 2A-2B. The following Commissioners were
present:
Mr. Jan Kimura
Mr. Herman Texeira
Mr. Hartwell Blake
The following staff members were present: Planning Department—Leslie Takasaki,
Kenneth Estes, Dale Cua; Office of Boards and Commissions—Cherisse Zaima; Deputy County
Attorney Ian Jung
Discussion of the meeting, in effect, ensued:
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Kimura called the meeting to order at 8:40 a.m.
ROLL CALL
Staff Planner Kenneth Estes noted that there were three Commissioners present.
APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA
On a motion by Herman Texeira and seconded by Hartwell Blake to approve the
agenda,the motion carried by unanimous voice vote.
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
1. Meeting of September 10, 2013
On a motion by Herman Texeira and seconded by Hartwell Blake to approve the
minutes of the September 10,2013,meeting,the motion carried by unanimous voice vote.
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RECENT OF ITEMS FOR THE RECORD
There were no items for the record.
PUBLIC COMMENT FOR LISTED AGENDA ITEMS
There were no public comments on listed agenda items.
GENERAL BUSINESS MATTERS
There were no general business matters.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
There was no unfinished business.
NEW BUSINESS (For action)
Subdivision Extension Request:
S-2008-01=Stanley B. Narramore Proposed Mot Subdivision
Mr. Estes read the staff report into the record. (On file)
Mr. Blake asked if there is a written condition informing all of the people along Lopaka
Paipa Boulevard that it is going to connect to Ala Kalanikaumaka and Po`ipu road to which Mr.
Estes replied there is a condition stating there shall be no direct access onto Ala Kalanikaumaka
from Lots 32-A and 32-C.
Mr. Blake stated his reason for asking is that he understands that eventually that will be
the connector between Po`ipu Road and Ala Kalanikauamaka, and asked if the people who own
property that borders Lopaka Paipa will be made aware of this to which W. Estes stated he does
not have a definitive answer at this time,but he will get that information.
Mr. Blake noted that a concern was brought before the Koloa Community Association
that when that connecting road was implemented, it would run next to Koloa School,which was
never planned for. He further stated that he feels it is not a good place to put the road where the
school children will be crossing the street. He would like to ensure the property owners are
made aware of whether that connecting road will be established.
Mr. Texeira expressed concern that this is the fourth extension, and wants to be sure they
are not setting a precedent for extension requests going forward. At what point can they say they
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will no longer be granting a request? What is a reasonable expectation in granting extension
requests?
Mr. Estes explained that Planning sends out a document to Public Works and Department
of Water, and if they have no concerns and approve the subdivision extension request, Planning
typically provides the extension request. However, it is at the discretion of the Commission
whether they want to approve the extension request.
Mr. Texeira stated that this has happened a number times in the past, and asked for the
Committee's opinion on when they could say enough is enough, and should not grant further
extension.
Mr. Blake stated that a year's extension seems to be the standard request, and this is
going on six years.
Mr. Kimura noted that this particular application is different as far as extensions go,
noting that it is out of the applicant's hands,therefore he feels it is acceptable.
W. Texeira stated that he understands that in this case, it's dependent upon action by the
County Public Works Department,who is citing manpower issues for the delay to which Mr.
Blake questioned whether Public Works is hearing their concerns.
Mr. Kimura confirmed that Public Works is very short staffed.
Mr. Texeira commented that he does not think this is acceptable, and Public Works
should be made aware that the Commission is trying to be good stewards for Planning, and if
they are unable to comply in a timely manner, they should be working with the Planning
Department to address these concerns.
Roger Caires,representing the applicant, stated that his concern is that Public Works is
taking a longtime to respond,noting that he has made several attempts in person to follow up on
the status of the drainage report. He states that each time he was told they were busy, and could
give him no estimate on when they would respond. He stated that his client made three special
trips from California in an attempt to get an answer,but each time he received the same
response. Mr. Caires pointed out that his submittals were always prompt.
On the motion by Hartwell Blake and seconded by Herman Texeria to approve the
subdivision extension request,the motion carried by unanimous voice vote.
Subdivision Extension Request
S-2012-04=Cornerstne Hawaii Holdings LLC Proposed 3-lot Subdivision
Mr. Estes read the staff report into the record. (On file)
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Mr. Texeira stated for clarification that the recommended extension date of December 13,
2013 gives the applicant only 2 months to complete the subdivision.
Mr. Estes explained that the Planning Department typically gives 1-year extensions at a
time,but it would be up to the Commission to grant a longer extension.
Lorna Nishimitsu,representing the applicant, feels that an extension just to the end of this
year would be insufficient, stating that she anticipates the housing agreement that is being
drafted will go back and forth between her office and the housing agency. She would like an
extension until December 2014,but if that is something the Commission cannot grant, she
requests they be given until June 2014 to allow time for the drafting review, and resubmittal.
She thinks the subdivision ordinance is broad enough that it does not limit the Commission to
granting only a one year extension. She stated although it may not be as timely as the
Commission would like,they are working on meeting the conditions of the application, noting
the challenge of drafting the ag master plan that had only recently been submitted to the Planning
Department for review;there are still a few things needing to be completed. She is requesting an
extension to December 2014 to try and get everything resolved.
Mr. Kimura asked if she had discussed a December 2014 extension with the Planner to
which Ms. Nishimitsu stated she had notified them this morning.
On the motion by Herman Texeira and seconded by Hartwell Blake to approve the
subdivision extension request,the motion carried by unanimous voice vote.
Mr.Kimura noted that the extension date needed to be changed.
On the motion by Herman Texeira and seconded by Hartwell Blake to reconsider
the previous motion, the motion carried by unanimous voice vote.
On the motion by Hartwell Blake and seconded by Herman Texeira to move the
extension date to June 30,2014,the motion carried by unanimous voice vote.
Tentative Subdivision Action:
S-2012-16=The Saiki family revocable trust Proposed 6-lot subdivision
Mr. Estes read the staff report into the record. (On file)
Mr. Texeira asked for clarification on whether there is an existing unit on the property to
which Mr. Estes replied yes.
Mr. Texeira stated for clarification that the existing unit has a cesspool, and asked if they
are reducing the subdivision size in order to accommodate the existing cesspool;will it be
relocated? Further clarification was requested on what is being proposed for this 6-lot
subdivision.
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Mr. Estes explained that the number of lots is being reduced in order to reduce
individualized wastewater systems;the rest of the lots will be on septic systems.
In response to Mr. Texeira's question, Mr. Cua explained that portions of Wailua
Houselots have connections to the sewer. The first 100 yards of Haleilio are connected, anything
beyond that are on individual wastewater systems.
Mr. Blake asked if the amount of square footage each lot requires to install an individual
septic system has increased from 8,000 to 10,000 square feet to which Mr. Cua stated in his
experience it has always been 10,000 square feet; this standard was implemented in the mid-90's.
Mr. Texeira asked if they had gone for an 8-lot subdivision what would they be required
to do in terms of wastewater treatment;how would it have changed this application to which Mr.
Cua replied that the applicant is limited to the size of the lot; therefore each lot has to be 10,000
square feet.
Mr. Texeira restated for clarification that the reason they did it was to be able to put in
their own wastewater system, and asked that if the lots had been smaller,how would that effect
the wastewater treatment for each unit.
Mr. Cua stated that the wastewater treatment still remains the same as this particular area
does not have access or connection to a sewer system unless they decide to bear that expense on
their own.
On the motion by Hartwell Blake and seconded by Herman Texeira to approve the
subdivision extension request,the motion carried by unanimous voice vote.
ADJOURNMENT
Chair Kimura adjourned the Committee meeting at 9:11 a.m.
Respectfully submitted by:
Cherisse Zaim
Commission Support Clerk
O Approved as circulated(add date of meeting approval).
O Approved as amended. See minutes of meeting.
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