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Minutes of Meeting
OPEN SESSION
Annroved as Circulated 7/1/2013
Board/Committee:
I FIRE COMMISSION
Meeting Date
June 3, 2013
Location
Mo`ikeha Building, Meeting Room 2A /213
Start of Meeting: 2:07 p.m.
I End of Meeting: 3:15 p.m.
Present
Chair Jimmy Miranda (entered at 2:15); Vice Chair Jesse Fukushima; Members: Eugene Jimenez; Dan Brown; Savita Agarwal
Also: Fire Chief Robert Westerman; Deputy County Attorney Mauna Kea Trask; Boards & Commissions Office Staff: Support Clerk
Cherisse Zaima; Administrator Paula Morikami
Excused
Heidy Huddy- Yamamoto
Absent
SUBJECT
DISCUSSION
ACTION
Call To Order
Vice Chair Fukushima called the meeting to
order at 2:07 p.m. with 4 members present,
constituting a quorum.
Approval of
Regular Open Session Minutes of May 6, 2013
Minutes
Mr. Jimenez moved to approve the minutes as
Vice Chair Fukushima called for a motion to approve the minutes.
circulated. Ms. Agarwal seconded the motion.
Motion carried 4:0
Executive
Prior to the presentation of Chief Westerman's monthly report, a request
Session
was made by counsel to enter into executive session. Hearing no
objections, Vice Chair Fukushima called for a motion to enter into
executive session.
Pursuant to Hawaii Revised Statutes § §92 -4 and 92 -5 (a) (4) (6), the
Deputy County Attorney Mauna Kea Trask read
purpose of this executive session is to consult with the Commission's legal
the Hawaii Revised Statues as described on the
counsel on issues pertaining to the Commission's and the County's powers,
agenda that would take the Commission into
duties, privileges, immunities, and/or liabilities; and to consider sensitive
Executive Session for item ES -006.
matters related to public safety or security as they may relate to this item,
deliberate and take such action as appropriate.
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■ ES -006 Discussion on Memorandum dated May 20, 2013 to Fire Chief
Robert Westerman from Chair Furfaro regarding Recovery of Rescue
Expenses Related to the Use of the County of Kauai Helicopter
Vice Chair Fukushima recognized member of the public, Lonnie Sykos, to
offer testimony.
Mr. Sykos stated that he was present as a member of the public and thanked
the Commission for looking into the issue. He noted that while the
helicopter is a great asset to the community it is also quite expensive and,
with regard to the County budget, anything that can be done to reduce our
expenses is appreciated. Mr. Sykos explained that he feels it would make
sense to have the helicopter especially for dramatic rescues, one of which he
witnessed from his home in Wailua as the helicopter was used to rescue
people who had fallen from the edge of a cliff, mountaineering could
accomplish the same thing but not without increasing the risk for both the
firefighters and the victims. However, his issue is with the number of
people who get saved and once they have been rescued and brought to
safety, they no longer need medical services; he wonders how much risk
they were actually in when they called for help. Mr. Sykos understands the
difficulty, but feels the County does have to come up with some kind of
criteria to control the usage of the helicopter and what qualifies for its
rescue work and what doesn't. He further stated that he realizes if you
don't respond to a rescue when you should have, you get sued and though
he doesn't know what the answer is, he is thankful that the issue is being
looked at.
Ms. Agarwal stated that she appreciates Mr. Sykos' valuable comments but
posed the question of what should be done when 911 is called? Should we
not respond and ask how serious the situation is first?
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ACTION
Attorney Trask stated for clarification that the agenda item does not
entertain discussion on whether or not to utilize the helicopter, but rather
how to recover the expenses under County Code section 6 -13; therefore, if
the Commission wishes, it can be placed on a future agenda as a separate
item.
In response to Ms. Agarwal, Mr. Sykos explained that as part of the present
agenda item, he can provide an answer to the root of her question which is
that if they choose to go the route of recovering expenses, a set of criteria
needs to be established before they can do so. He further commented that
he assumes our 911 operators are trained to discern the nature of the calls
they receive.
Mr. Fukushima noted that they seem to be deviating from the issue and
asked counsel whether any members could respond considering this is an
executive session item.
Mr. Jimenez stated that he agrees with Mr. Sykos that criteria will need to
be established as to what determines the various rescue efforts involving the
helicopter. However, he feels that because it is so subjective, they will have
a difficult time setting up that criteria though he does believe in the overall
idea that they should be reimbursed for helicopter expenses; they must be
sure they have airtight criteria.
Chair Miranda entered the meeting at 2:15 p.m.
Mr. Fukushima called for a motion to enter into executive session.
Mr. Jimenez moved to enter into executive
session. Mr. Brown seconded the motion.
Motion carried 5:0.
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DISCUSSION
ACTION
Return to Open
The meeting reconvened in open session at 2:41
Session
p.m.
Vice Chair Fukushima called for a brief recess.
The meeting was turned over to Chair Miranda.
Chiefs Monthly
■ Overview for the month of April 2013 and pertinent updates
Report
■ Budget Report as of April 31, 2013
Chief Westerman reported that the meeting with Parks and Recreation on
ocean safety kiosks at county beach parks was very successful. The Ocean
Safety Bureau is working on designing some new kiosks to put on County
beaches; one kiosk is already up which encouraged Parks and Recreation to
put up more at Po`ipu beach.
Mr. Fukushima asked for clarification on item 3, SPARTON, to which
Chief Westerman replied it is an engine manufacturing company. KFD is
trying to make contact with every manufacturer they can to encourage more
bids for engines to help control costs.
Mr. Fukushima asked how item 4, island -wide road resurfacing, affects the
Fire Department. Chief Westerman explained that some of the issues are
when and where they are doing it, and if they start to make changes in the
roadway whether it has an effect on how engines can get around the
neighborhood. Mr. Fukushima stated that one of the county ordinances
passed back in the 1980's was the ability for the County to enter certain
private roads but the County has never taken any initiative to resurface
those roads despite emergency vehicles needing to utilize them. He asked
for Chief Westerman's opinion on what point in time he feels the roads
would get so bad that it would not allow such access. Chief Westerman
replied that it is already happening now; he encourages the Commissioners
to routinely go out into their neighborhoods and check every road. There
are a lot of roads, such as Kaumakani, that the department will not allow the
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engines to go down on a daily basis; instead they send the small trucks to
check the community. The only time the engines are allowed to go down
that road is for emergencies because they want to avoid that kind of rough
wear and tear to the engines on a daily basis. They have very little control
over roads that are not controlled by the County; however, most of the
communities are pretty good about allowing them to do minor road
resurfacing to alleviate bumps.
Chief Westerman mentioned the Ocean Safety Video installation at Lihu`e
Airport Baggage Claim area. Upon returning from a trip recently, Chief
Westerman stopped and watched visitors as they got off the plane and
noticed that many people did stop to watch and several people, when
hearing about the Beach Safety Guide, retrieved a copy of the guide. He
stopped to speak to some of the visitors and received mixed responses,
some who felt it was very good and others who felt that it may not really
save anyone, but at least the effort was being made.
Operations Bureau
The call load has increased a little from last year most likely due to the
increase of visitor activities.
Chief Westerman went over the apparatus status and station updates,
highlighting the Home Depot Kids Clinic. Home Depot partnered with the
Hawaii Fire Chiefs Association and gave each of the islands smoke
detectors to hand out for free as part of their give -back to the community.
KFD used it as part of the kids' day, handing out smoke detectors at the Fire
Safety Education trailer. They also offered fire extinguisher training for the
employees working that day.
Hydrant inspections were done to make sure the caps were adequately
reased and that the caps come off. In response to Mr. Brown, Chief
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Westerman explained that the Water Department takes care of the flow
testing, but KFD takes care of the caps and valves.
Station 6 assisted Grove Farm and the Harbors division with a Japanese
buoy that washed up which they will be putting up as a monument
somewhere around Port Allen.
Training Bureau
Mr. Jimenez inquired about the Recruit Cooking training. Chief Westerman
explained that they brought in a Chef to work with the firefighters on how
to purchase and prepare healthy, good quality food on a limited budget.
Ocean Safety Bureau
Chief Westerman noted that his monthly report now includes individual
tower updates.
Budget Report
Chief Westerman reported that they are 73% expended for the budget year
and do not expect any more large purchases at this point in the year.
There is a bit of unexpended money that KFD is hoping to use to purchase
Mr. Fukushima moved to receive the report. Mr.
some new generators for the stations.
Jimenez seconded the motion. Motion carried
5:0.
Announcements
Next Meeting: Monday, July 1, 2013 — 2:00 p.m., Mo`ikeha Building,
Meeting Room 2A /B
The Office of Boards and Commissions will no longer be providing bottled
water to our members starting July 1, 2013. This is one of our sustainability
goals. Staff will provide cold water using a filtered system (i.e. Brita), so
please bring in your water bottle that was provided to you.
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DISCUSSION
ACTION
Adjournment
Mr. Jimenez moved to adjourn the meeting. Ms.
Agarwal seconded the motion. Motion carried
5:0.
The meeting was adjourned at 3:15 p.m.
Submitted by:
Cherisse Zaima, Support Clerk
O Approved as is.
() Approved with amendments. See minutes of
Reviewed and Approved by:
meeting.
Jimmy Miranda, Chair