HomeMy WebLinkAboutpc 10-14-14 minutes KAUAI PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
October 14, 2014
The regular meeting of the Planning Commission of the County of Kauai was called to order by
Chair Jan Kimura at 9 : 26 a.m., at the Liau` e Civic Center, Mo` ikeha Building, in Meeting Room
2A/2B . The following Commissioners were present:
Chair Jan Kimura
Vice Chair Angela Anderson
Mr. John Isobe
Mr. Sean Mahoney
Ms. Amy Mendonca
Absent and Excused:
Mr. Hartwell Blake
Mr. Wayne Katayama
The following staff members were present: Planning Department — Michael Dahilig, Leslie
Takasaki, Dale Cua; Marie Williams; Office of Boards and Commissions — Cherisse Zaima;
Deputy County Attorney Ian Jung, Deputy County Attorney Jodi Higuchi-Sayegusa
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Kimura called the meeting to order at 9 :26 a.m.
ROLL CALL
Planning Director Michael Dahilig noted there were five commissioners present.
APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA
Mr. Dahilig requested that actual action relating to Items F.2.a and I.2. a, respectively, be
entertained when alternate counsel to advise the Commission can come in, likely after 11 : 00.
On the motion by Sean Mahoney and seconded by Angela Anderson to approve the
agenda as amended, the motion carried by unanimous voice vote.
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
Meeting of July 8 , 2014
On the motion by Sean Mahoney and seconded by Amy Mendonca to approve the
minutes of the July S, 2014 meeting, the motion carried by unanimous voice vote.
RECEIPT OF ITEMS FOR THE RECORD
On the motion by Sean Mahoney and seconded by Angela Anderson to receive items
for the record, the motion carried by unanimous voice vote.
HEARINGS AND PUBLIC COMMENT
Continued Agency Hearing (None)
New Agency Hearing
Special Management Area Use Permit SMA (U)-2015-2 Class IV Zoning Permit Z-IV-
2015-3 and Use Permit U-2015-3 to allow conversion of an existing residence into abed and
breakfast operation on a parcel located along the mauka side of Weke Road in Hanalei Town,
situated at its intersection with Pilikoa Street, further identified as Tax Map Key 5 -5-010 . 032
and containing a total area of 7.568 sq. ft. = Ed Ben Dor and Joan Ben Dor. [Director' s Report
received 9/23/ 14.1 [Applicant' s Response to Planning Director' s Report, received 10/8/141
The Commission received testimony from Douglas Blackburn, a resident of Hanalei, who
is in support of Ed Ben-Dar' s request for a homestay operation. Mr. Blackburn stated he moved
to Hanalei in 1977, and soon after Mr. Ben-Dor became his neighbor, whom he has known for
over 30 years. He supports the application because he wishes to see Mr. Ben-Dor' s daughter
take over the house as Mr. Ben-Dor has moved on to another location; his daughter will reside in
the home, and needs some extra financial support by renting out a room for the time being. He
stated it is becoming financially difficult in Hanalei to stay in homes because of the numerous
financial burdens, and feels this is a good idea of having local families be able to maintain their
homes and make a little income on the side.
The Commission received testimony from Carl Imparato, who lives in Hanalei, and is in
support of the Director's report and recommendation to DENY the requested permits . He noted
this homestay is a TVR by another name, its only distinguishing factor being the full-time, on-
site concierge, which he does not believe provides enough of a difference to allow this quasi"
TVR to be approved. The primary reason being the County needs to give in-depth consideration
to the very important public policy question of whether or not more commercialization of
residential neighborhoods should be permitted. The use of the owner' s property as a Bed and
Breakfast if the property is the owner' s primary residence, and only a small percentage of the
property is rented out, is one thing, but it is entirely different to consider the conversion of
properties in general from residential to quasi-commercial use when they are de-facto TVRs
having an on-site manager. Mr. Imparato stated his concern is that if this request is approved, it
is almost certain that there will be a flood of similar applications in the future, and many
residential properties in the future will be marketed and purchased by people with the intent of
getting around the TVR laws by converting residential properties to concierge TVRs under the
guise of a homestay. He is not arguing the intent. of this applicant, but is speaking about the
general idea of what it means to operate a homestay, which he does not think the County has
grappled with that yet. The policy issues raised by this application are broad, and precedence-
setting. He feels the Commission should conduct a general rule-making proceeding in order to
clearly define the criteria and parameters to address these types of requests rather than entertain
them on a case-by-case permit process . He urged the Commission not to take a piecemeal
approach to this important matter, but if they are going to consider it, please require the property
be the primary residence of the owner, who must live on-site, and that no more than one-third of
the bedrooms be rented to non-residents, and only be rented during periods when the owner is
actually in residence, and that parking, septic, and disaster evacuation impacts be addressed, and
that cumulative impacts be fully considered as is required by the SMA rules and regulations.
The Commission received testimony from Makaala Kaaumoana, Executive Director of
the Hanalei Watershed Hui, who read her written testimony into the record. (On file)
Mt. Dahilig noted for the record the receipt of a letter from Barbara Robeson in support
of the Planning Director' s recommendation to deny the application.
Mr. Dahilig stated because they are without counsel for this item, he suggests the
Commission leave the agency hearing open, and defer the item until counsel returns .
On the motion by Angela Anderson and seconded by Sean Mahoney to defer the
matter until there is counsel for the Commission, the motion carried by unanimous voice
vote.
Continued Public Hearing
ZA-2014-9 : a BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDING Chapter 8 Kauai County
Code 1987 as amended relating to Additional Dwelling Unit. The proposal extends the sunset
date of the Additional Dwelling Unit on other than residentially zoned lots and establishes an
annual recertification requirement and fee = County of Kauai Department of Planning
Wearing deferred 7/22/14 due to no quorum Director' s Report received and hearing deferred
8/1_ 2/14. 1
Mr. Dahilig noted for the record the receipt of a set of roughly 90 ADU petitions in
support of the matter transmitted by Mr. Jesse Fukushima,
The Commission received testimony from Tony Ricci, a current resident of Kekaha who
has lived there for 24 years. Mr. Ricci stated he has an ADU lot that is part of Kekaha Sunsets,
and is one of the last ADU houses to be constructed there. They were planning to build when his
wife retires in 2018 , but due to his medical issues from a motor vehicle accident, when the sunset
deadline came down, it became impossible for them to expedite the finances necessary to do so.
Mr. Ricci and his wife live down the street from the property, and planned to build an ADU there
so his son could take over the existing residence. They cannot afford to lose their investment,
and hope the extension is granted to allow for their retirement plans; otherwise, they will be
unable to retire here, and their son cannot live here. Mr. Ricci stated their lot is a 14,000 square
foot lot where they are planning to put a 2,000 square foot home. This is their future, which they
had planned for very well until the unforeseen circumstances came about. He hopes the
commission will consider this extension.
The Commission received testimony from Lee Mori, President of the Kauai Board of
Realtors, who spoke on behalf of two particular individual clients that are both in the same
situation as Mr. Ricci. They purchased lots in a development with surrounding houses, and
established infrastructure. Both properties are zoned agriculture; however, one client had a death
in the family, the other lost a job. She feels these individuals should be offered the privilege of
being able to build a home. The client whose husband passed away was left with no money, and
is now working hard to build on that parcel, which she paid quite a bit of money for. The other
side of it is that the County is losing revenue from the 300 parcels identified, many of which
already have infrastructure established. She is hoping the Commission allows this to not sunset,
and to go on for another ten years. She also suggested it not be made so expensive that it will
make it difficult for some of these families, and include a mechanism to remind certificate
holders to renew annually.
On the motion by Sean Mahoney and seconded by Angela Anderson to close public
hearing, the motion carried by unanimous voice vote.
New Public Hearin
ZA-2015-1 : A proposed ordinance to implement the South Kauai Community_Plan,
which is an update to the existing K61oa-Po ` i u-Kalaheo Development Plan and includes the
communities of K61oa, Po ` ipu, Kalaheo Oma` o and Lawa` i. The proposed ordinance will
amend Chapter 10, Article 6 of the Kauai County Code to identify potential special planning
areas to accommodate future growth and to establish new special planning areas for the town
cores of K61oa and Kalaheo and an area ad ' acent to the Po ` i u Road roundabout and
ex_ ceptions, modifications and additions to Chapters 8 9 and 10 of the Kauai County Code The
Special Planning Areas will provide development standards and guidelines to help achieve the
goals and objectives for the South Kauai Planning District that were created through a public
planning_mocess and with assistance from a Citizen' s Advisory Committee.
Mr. Dahilig stated for the record the receipt of written testimony from Carol Ann Davis-
Bryant concerning crosswalks on Po ` ipu Road; a consolidated letter from the residents and
owners of Po` ipu Crater noting various concerns on proposals included in the draft plan; an
email from Yojana Grace concerning Mahaulepu and the issue of the dairy; an email from Mary
Neudorffer concerning various proposals in the plan.
The Commission received testimony from Juliette Souza, who lives on Hoona Road in
Kukui` ula. She wanted to ensure that the intentions of the citizens group really came across and
provided the truth. She, and several of her neighbors. that are involved in the redevelopment
have been told that they are in agreement with the rezoning. Ms . Souza would like to make sure
that it is stated in the meeting minutes that she is NOT in agreement with the rezoning. She has
lived there all her life — 69 years — and is the last one in the lower portion of Hoona Road. She
intends to try and remain there for her family as this is their homestead. She asked that the
minutes reflect she and her neighbors were misrepresented by a couple of people, and she wants
to ensure her intentions are made clear that she is against this rezoning on Hoona Road.
The Commission received testimony from Sam Lee, a longtime, pennanent resident in
the area, just up the street from Ms . Souza' s property. He has not lived on the property for as
long as Ms. Souza has, but has been on his property, where three generations of his immediate
family have grown up and continue to grow up, for 44 years. He is here to insure the change to
the zoning from residential R-4 to VDA does not pass. Based on neighborhood concerns, an
original proposal that showed the VDA to replace residential zoning, and make those residential
properties a non-conforming use has been taken off the table. However, he and his neighbors are
well aware of the long process ahead, which will ultimately involve the County Council, and
may bring about pressures and changes that will be detrimental to them. Mr. Lee stated that a
week ago, a coincidence in his opinion considering the date of this hearing, the neighborhood
became aware of door to door lobbying by two individuals, primarily focusing on the old timers
in the neighborhood to convince them to support the idea of the VDA. He and his neighbors
were unaware of this, and were caught off guard. He noted that the lobbyists were members of
the South Shore Citizens Advisory Committee, who were both appointed to be community
advocates. He stated he will leave it at that, but it certainly makes him wonder.
Mr. Isobe asked for clarification or elaboration on the solicitation effort Mr. Lee
mentioned, and requested some background on what he was referencing. Mr. Lee explained that
Ms . Souza had introduced that occurrence in her earlier testimony, and in her case a visit was
actually made with her involving discussion about gaining her support for the VDA change.
What was then passed back to the Planning Department was incorrect as Julie never agreed to or
supported the change; however the results of that discussion were the opposite of that. Mr. Lee
stated lobbying is a time tested way to do business, but it is strange that because of the
responsibility the two lobbyists are supposed to be filling on the committee as community
advocates that they would be pushing this agenda, and would take the liberty of completely
misstating the results of their interviews; which has happened on more than one instance.
In response to Mr. Kimura, Mr. Lee stated that the neighbors that were approached, and
spoke to the lobbyists can explain exactly what happened. He noted that when he found out
about it, he contacted the Planning Department and the consultant, and questioned whether they
submitted documents, affidavits, letters signed by the residents, or some hard evidence that what
they were saying was true; however, there was no such evidence. It seems that things changed
from the original discussion to what was relayed to the Planning Department,
Mr. Isobe asked to clarify that the lobbyists are people employed by the County to which
Mr. Lee replied no, they were invited to be a member of the Citizens Advisory Committee, just
as he was, which is comprised of stakeholders that live and work in the project area. The two
lobbyists are longtime residents within the project area, and one has a business there. They were
named to the committee as community advocates, but commented that one only needs to look at
the listing of the CAC to see their affiliations, or the segment of the community they were
selected to represent. His thinking is that if he is a community advocate, he is going to advocate
for his community, which does not mean changing zoning from residential to commercial in his
value system.
Mr. Isobe asked to clarify that the individuals he is referring to are volunteers that were
serving on the CAC to which Mr. Lee stated yes, they were extended invitations .
The Commission received testimony from Nonna Doctor Sparks, who read from the
written testimony she provided. (On file)
The Commission received testimony from Pamela Shivola, representing homeowners in
the Koloa Crater, and who concurs with previous speakers. A nine-page letter has been
submitted for the Commission' s consideration regarding the South Shore plan, which Ms.
Shivola read into the record. (On file)
The Commission received testimony from E.J. Olsen, who lives in the area near Mr. Lee.
He has a place called Kauai Cove .Cottages, and wanted to address the one size fits all approach
to the zoning issue in the VDA that' s now proposed for Puuholo Road, Hoona Road, and Lawa` i
Beach Road. He noted that when the ordinance to crack down on vacation. rentals came down, it
did not take into account that this area was traditionally used for vacation rentals, or hybrid bed
and breakfast type operations. Now the agricultural land next to Puuholo Road has been turned
into a VDA with a strip mall; it was turned into a commercial area with Whaler' s Cove on the
other end. There is a lot of traffic between these areas, and a pattern of tourism. All the cottages
on the one little strip along Waikomo stream were used for tourism, and was in harmony with the
neighborhood. He questioned is it not fair to look at this area as a visitor area as it' s been used
this way for so long, and he feels it does not impact the neighborhood. Others may feel
differently, but the County has now increased the commercial aspect by allowing new businesses
to develop inland from this area. He stated they must expand the visitor area to meet the
requirements of these commercial areas without impacting the neighborhood, and if they can find
that balance, it can be a very good thing for the community. He commented that his property
taxes have gone up 311 percent, and he paid over a half a million dollars in TAT since he got his
license back in 1997. He has been doing business down there for so long, and feels he has been
in harmony with his neighbors. He is asking for the Commission' s consideration in this matter
as it has greatly impacted his family.
The Commission received testimony from Kalanikumai Kamakaonaalii Hanohano a.k.a.
Zachariah Branch Harmony. He provided a short prayer. He is not in agreement with the
proposed rezoning, and is in support of previous testimony regarding this, as well as the letters of
Carol Ann Davis, and Yojana Grace. He is registered with the State Historic Preservation
Department, and with Grove Farin as a native descendent of the aboriginal stewards of the land
in K61oa, Mahaulepu, and all the ahupua' a of K61oa. He represents his I ' iwi — his name
translated designates who he is in his mookuauhau — and as party of interest over the moku of
Kdloa of the feather cloaked clan. Mr. Hanohano stated the plan does not address issues of
drainage posed and questioned by a community study in 2006, led by Donald Cataluna regarding
the hazards of Waita dam, and the nature of the hard lava underneath all of K61oa, which would
flood the whole area down to Kukui`ula should anything happen to the earthenwork dam. It has
not addressed the issue of reef degradation, of poisoning of endangered sea life, and
contamination of the shoreline from Hauula all the way to Kukui` ula, which is the South Shore
VDA, by the proposed dairy runoff and high nitrates. Because of the percolation into the lava
tubes, and the lack of topsoil, the heavy rains will inevitably cause runoff one mile to the beach.
Public access rights from Weliweli Road all the way to Waita and Kawailoa Bay were
established on July 27, 1896, and indexed in Fifth Circuit Court law. He has copies of the
transcripts, and is in conforinance with State law that any road that was established as public
access prior to this remains so no matter who owns the property on either side. Former
councilman and Mayoral candidate Junmy Tehada's vision for Kaua` i' s South Shore was to
attract wealthy retirees to improve health services for geriatrics with increased development of
nursing hospital and outpatient services, which is also not addressed in this plan, but it is a more
appropriate concern for the future development of this island. The plan does not state that
Mahaulepu has been, and is a public priority for preservation, and the threatened species include
green sea turtles, monk seals, reef fish, nene, and the Kauai Blind Cave Wolf spider.
Mr. Dahilig recommended keeping the public hearing open, stating this is a very dense
amount of material that needs to be thoroughly vetted, and he does not want to give the
impression that the Department is rushing through this process as it deserves appropriate
deliberation by the body as well as infonnation from the public. The consultant and the planner
have worked hard to try and be as transparent about this process as possible.
On the motion by Angela Anderson and seconded by Sean Mahoney to keep the
public hearing open and defer the matter until the next commission meeting, but receive
the presentation at a later time in the meeting, the motion carried by unanimous voice vote.
(The meeting recessed at 10 :20 a.m.)
(The meeting resumed at 10: 30 a.m.)
COMMITTEE REPORTS
Subdivision
Subdivision Committee Vice Chair Amy Mendonca read the Subdivision Report into the
record. (On file)
The following Tentative Subdivision Action was approved 3 -0 :
5-2015-02 — Julie Yaniane and Ainy Postma, Proposed 2-lot Subdivision
The following Subdivision Extension Requests were approved 3 -0:
S-2012- 11 = Jan, Inc. , Proposed 11 -lot Consolidation
S-2012- 16 = The Saiki Fancily Revocable Trust, Proposed 6-lot Subdivision
S-2013 -22 = Cheryl Cowden Schenck, Proposed Kuleana Relocation
S-96-38 = Kilauea Ventures, LLC, Road and Drainage Subdivision, Consolidation with
S-2013 -20 to facilitate conditions pursuant to Z-IV-2012-7
The following Final Subdivision Actions were approved 3 -0:
S-2013 - 12 = .John WK. Driver & Teresa S. Driver, Proposed 2-lot Boundary Adjustment
S-2014- 14 = Lance & Ann Akama Trust/Michael M. Akama & David Y. Akama, Proposed
2-lot Boundary Adjustment
On the motion by Sean Mahoney and seconded by Angela Anderson to receive the
Subdivision Committee Report, the motion carried by unanimous voice vote.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Director' s Report(s) for Project(s) Scheduled for Agency Hearing on 10/28/14
Class IV Zoning Permit Z-IV-2015-4 and Use Permit U-20154 to construct a
farmworker housing unit featuring 3 bedrooms/2 bathrooms on a parcel situated along the Makai
side of Koolau Road in Moloa` a, approx. V2 mile east of its intersection with Kuhio Highway,
further identified as 6020 Koolau Road or Tax MqV Key 4-9-009 : 012 CPR Unit 83 and
containing a land area of 6 .25 acres = Kaua `i Kunana, Inc. (dba_Kaua `i Kunana Dairy)
Shoreline Setback Activity Determination
Shoreline Setback Commission Review SSCR-2015-03 and Shoreline Setback
Determination SSD-2015-08 for a shoreline activity determination Tax Map Key 5-3 -005 . 005
`Anini, Kaua` i, for acceptance by the Commission = County oLaua `i. Department of Parks
and Recreation.
Shoreline Setback Commission Review SSCR-2015-04 and Shoreline Setback
Determination SSD-2015-09 for a shoreline activity determination Tax Ma Key 1 -9-008 : 007
Hanapepe, Kauai, for acceptance by the Commission = County ofKaua `i, Department of Parks
and Recreation.
No action was taken on this item.
EXECUTIVE SESSION (None)
GENERAL BUSINESS MATTERS
Letter (9/22/14) from Gwendolyn A. Mocksing, requesting cancellation of Use Permit U-
2014- 14, Tax Map Key 2-6-004 : 32, Po ` ipu Road Kauai
On the motion by Amy Mendonca and seconded by Sean Mahoney to receive the
letter, the motion carried by unanimous voice vote.
Mr. Dahilig noted Item I.2. a. will be postponed until counsel for the Commission is
available.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS FOR ACTION
ZA-2014-9 : a BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE. AMENDING Chapter 8 , Kauai Countv
Code 1987, as amended, relating to Additional Dwelling Unit The proposal extends the sunset
date of the Additional Dwelling Unit on other than residentially zoned lots and establishes an
annual recertification requirement and fee = County of Kaua `i Department of Planning
Hearing deferred 7/22/14 due to no quorum Director's Report received and hearing_deferred
8/12/14.1
Mr. Dahilig stated the Department was tasked at the last meeting to do further research on
the proposal. He explained there is an ADU sunset for those certificate holders that will expire
in December. Council floated a bill to extend the deadline with certain conditions, particularly a
ten year extension, and a $750 annual recertification fee. At the last meeting numerous concerns
were raised by commissioners on the appropriateness of the fee, the amount of the fee, and
whether a fee should be charged as well as whether the extension should be left at 10 years, or
remain indefinite. Additionally, there was concern about the balance between limiting
speculation that could occur as a consequence of these entitlements being traded rather than build
versus providing an opportunity for local families to provide homes for their children.
Mr. Dahilig noted one proposal that came before the body was whether or not the
proposed fee could be accrued as a penalty, meaning if the ADU was sold the fee could be
retroactively charged as opposed to paying a fee on an annual basis . However, it was determined
by the County Attorney' s evaluation that such a proposal would not be in line with various case
law and principles of municipal fee charges. The Department cannot recommend that proposal
to the Commission at this time. The County Attorney did advise the Department that Hawaii
law is a bit more limited regarding the difference between regulatory fees and administrative
fees, and though regulatory fees compel a certain action, they should be appropriately
proportioned to the amount of service being provided. Given those principles of law, the
Department felt the $750 fee is not appropriate, therefore, they are recommending the ten year
extension still be granted, and that a one-time registration charge of $500 along with an annual
renewal fee of $200 to cover costs for man power required for cataloguing and paperwork will be
sufficiently justifiable. The Department's greater concern is whether or not the ADUs will
actually be constructed; they want to ensure the vertical unit is built, and avoid entitlements
being created. They feel simply setting a ten year deadline will not provide the accountability to
encourage people to build the home.
Mr. Dahilig noted a comment he made to one of his planners that if they are concerned
about urban infill, and attempting to lessen the urban footprint, the ADU law has been one of the
more successful proposals to help provide infill versus sprawl. There is value in looking at the
ADU bill to provide additional housing in areas that have already been urbanized. The
Department would still recommend some kind of passage be adopted by the Commission.
Ms. Mendonca asked to clarify that the ten year extension would bring the sunset date to
2024 to which Mr. Dahilig replied yes, it would be ten years from the date of approval.
In response to Ms. Mendonca, Mr. Dahilig explained, the particular measure they are
looking at only affects those ADU certificates that were issued within the last decade, and relates
to homes NOT on residentially zoned areas; those on ag and open zoned lands . Ms. Mendonca
asked if the ADU is not built by 2024, does that mean another dwelling could no longer be built
to which Mr. Dahilig stated yes, that would be the consequence. Ms . Mendonca asked if it
would be set in stone that an individual could not come back and state their reasons for not
building.
Mr. Dahilig stated the intent of the legislation back in 2007 was to end the granting of
ADUs outside of residentially zoned areas; however, for the landowners who have already gone
through the process of obtaining infrastructure entitlements, it is appropriate to offer an extension
to close those out and build the unit. Unfortunately, the economy went under, and many people
had difficulty obtaining financing. Subsequently, one extension had been granted until 2014 to
allow these certificate holders to get their affairs in order, and this is just an extension of that
existing policy.
Ms. Mendonca stated she understands that clearly, but in her confusion of trying to get
the right perspective she pointed out the example of a person with a home on ag land who
decides to construct a building for their ag business as opposed to the land owners wishing to
pass the land on to family members. She has difficulty understanding why such restrictions are
placed on people who own the land and want to use it, but are faced with a multitude of
hardships. Should there be another hurricane, will there be an open door for people to come
back? Mr. Dahilig stated that is the process they are going through right now in trying to change
the deadline.
Mr. Isobe asked how many permits are being looked at to which Mr. Dahilig stated one
of the functions of this amendment is an effort to itemize and account for all of the certificates.
It is roughly estimated to be 300 — 400 certificates, but because of the way the program was
initially implemented, they do not have an accurate number. There is no consolidated database
to determine the exact number of certificates, but it is estimated at 300 — 400 outstanding. Mr.
Isobe asked to clarify that the ten year extension is limited to those existing, outstanding
certificates, and no new permits will be issued to which Mr. Dahilig stated that is correct. Mr.
Isobe stated the assumption then is that within the next ten years, there will be a decline in
existing permits as people build their homes to which Mr. Dahilig stated that is a fair assessment.
Ms . Anderson asked without a database of the current landowners who hold ADU
clearance forms, how will the Department implement enforcement of fee payment? She asked if
there will there be public outreach to advise the public about any extension, and how to submit
paperwork and fees to make use of it. Mr. Dahilig stated the TVR enforcement they are
currently experiencing has provided a template of what to do and what not to do in soliciting
information from the public and have people register. The Department is prepared to look at past
practice to get the word out. Mr. Dahilig stated rather than have these land owners hold these
ADU certificates, they want to create a unified database so that all the departments that rely on
that information know who has a valid certificate. Part of the database implementation will
involve working with the various agencies that sign off on the certificates . The Department will
use the experience they have had with the TVR process for these ADU certificates.
Ms. Anderson asked if there will be a deadline for the payment of the initial registration,
or can people come in several years from now to register in the event they had not previously
heard about it. Mr. Dahilig explained similar to the TVR certificates, this bill proposes a
window of time to declare your right to the certificate; once the window is closed, one is no
longer entitled to the right. The timeframe of that window, if a concern to the commissioners,
can be changed.
Mr. Kimura asked on average how long have these ADU certificate holders had their
permits to which Mr. Dahilig replied the program was initiated back in the mid-2000s, which is
when these certificates were issued; an average of ten years. This extension will sunset in
December. Mr. Kimura stated he feels there should not be a problem with the fees, stating that
anyone with an ADU certificate would want to build, and have been waiting to build. Mr.
Dahilig stated most of the people left with certificates have simply been unable to obtain the
equity for a down payment or construction loan; however past use of the certificate program has
also been traded as a commodity; these entitlements have been flipped before, and is a practice
the Department does not condone. He reiterated there are a lot of people who have not built
simply because they do not have the financial means.
Mr. Isobe commented that he is in support of the extension, noting he was party to the
initial drafting of the law, which was clearly intended to truly help the residents of Kauai,
primarily the long-time resident farmers who wanted the opportunity to pass property on to their
children. Mr. Isobe stated he does not have a problem with the initial fee of $500, but is
concerned about the annual fee. He explained based on calculations on the number of permits
outstanding times the cost of the initial fee should generate roughly $ 175 ,000, of which about
$70,000 would be sufficient to start a program and hire a staff person for the. management of
these outstanding certificates. That leaves $ 100,000, or $ 10,000 per year to maintain the
program. He does not feel an additional $70,000 that would be generated from the proposed
$200 annual fees would be necessary considering no new pen-nits will be coining in, and there
will likely be a reduction in the number of pen-nits to .monitor over the ten year period. He
reiterated that he does not feel the annual fees are necessary as the initial fee would provide
enough revenue to start, staff, and maintain a program for the next ten years; he supports an
initial fee of $ 500, but does not support an annual fee of $200.
Mr. Dahilig asked to clarify that Mr. Isobe would still like to require the annual
recertification, but with zero fees . Mr. Isobe replied yes, further stating that he assumes the
recertification process would be a nominal process as the database would already contain all of
the required information. A clerk could then simply update the database. Because there will not
be any new permits being issued, he cannot imagine a fall time employee will be needed to
manage that.
Mr. Kimura stated his concern is that some of the information required for the certificates
may not be on record, which will require extensive research and may cost more than just the
initial fee will cover. He suggested that those who come in with certificates, and have
documents that are easy to find, there will be no annual fee for it. However if extra time needs to
be put into locating documents and information, then a fee ban be set up for that.
Mr. Dahilig explained calculations had been done on what they expected the manpower
to look like, and they were very generous as they anticipated collective bargaining increases, and
the use of applications such as GIS in the actual process. They anticipated having a Planner
position for that program because it would require the verification of signatures. He
acknowledges that some certificates will cost more than others to process, but having a different
fee structure for each certificate would be difficult to manage. The fees they proposed are based
on what they anticipated the average cost to be. He noted the annual fee is up for debate, but his
primary concern is making these certificate holders aware that they should be trying to make
progress, and want them to remain in contact with the Department.
Mr. Isobe stated assuming the employee will be a 2080 hour employee, which is the
normal annual work hours, there is enough manpower to allow for 6 hours per pen-nit per year.
He feels that is more than ample time. To allocate for the level of staff the Department would
like for this program, whether a Clerk for a year, or a Planner for 6 months, is an Administrative
call . Some permits will take longer than others, but if it cannot be done at 6 hours per permit per
year, there is something grossly wrong with the program that is set up .
Mr. Dahilig does not disagree with that reasoning, but explained that after receiving
advice from the Attorney' s office, the calculations they used revolved around the coordination
elements such as GIS mapping. I£ given a budget he is confident the Department can manage
within those parameters .
Mr. Isobe urged the commission not to forget that the County increased the property tax
rates for agriculturally zoned lands, therefore, the very people they are talking about are already
paying more to the County. As a result, he feels it is only fair that the County provide a certain
level of service commensurate with the increases as opposed to having them pay even more.
Mr. Kimura asked if they decide to forego the fee, would they still need to inform the
certificate holders that they must re-register every year. He feels if they will not be charged, then
it is their responsibility to remember to re-register annually. Mr. Dahilig stated the Department
would likely do something similar to what they are currently doing with their automated TVR
certificate renewal notification where people can opt in to receiving email notifications.
Ms. Mendonca asked whether the 350 permits being referenced is a confirmed amount, or
is it an estimation. Mr. Dahilig replied they are estimating, and will not have an exact number
until they catalog all the certificates. Ms. Mendonca asked to clarify that if someone failed to
apply for a certificate back in 2006, if they were unaware of it, were they given a chance to go
back and apply. Attorney Jung stated they could not, explaining that provision of law had
sunset; what is before the Commission now is not the actual certificate, but the process to obtain
a building permit. Getting an ADU permit has been cut off. Ms. Mendonca questioned whether
the Department has any record of those outstanding certificate holders to which Mr. Dahilig
stated no, and explained that each different department required to sign off on the certificate may
not have kept records of it. That was never parr of the implementation back in 2006 .
Attorney Jung stated what Mr. Dahilig is trying to accomplish is to keep an accurate
registry, noting that the building division actually generated the ADU clearance form. The
Planning Department is now trying to reconcile this, keep an accurate registry, and then keep a
log to track them over a ten year period. Ms. Mendonca asked when the certificates were issued
in 2006 were the certificate holders properly notified that it was a requirement to which Attorney
Jung stated the notification process was never really an issue for the Planning Department
because when the law changes, you have a duty to track the law and how it operates. It is
identified in the law that you have to be part of the process to recognize your right to claim an
ADU. Ms. Mendonca asked if the Department notifies homeowners of that to which Mr. Jung
stated no, it is through the public hearing process as well as Sunshine Law postings, etc. Ms.
Mendonca asked if someone didn't see that then they lost out to which Mr. Jung replied correct.
Ms . Mendonca then asked to clarify that there is still not an accurate count of the ones that did
see it and take advantage of it to which Mr. Dahilig replied correct. He explained that it was a
multi-agency effort that required signatures from ALL agencies by a certain date to have a valid
certificate. Because there was no central agency coordinating once all signatures were received,
there is no way to say for certain whether there is an official record to show all the signatures
were received.
Ms. Mendonca asked that if they grant an extension for ten years, if an individual has a
bona fide reason for not building, do they have a right to come back to the Commission for
consideration to which Mr. Dahilig replied anyone can come before this body to request due
process if they feel they have not received such
Mr. Isobe commented that the efforts are well spent, and he compliments the Planning
Department for taking it on. He pointed out that he is in agreement with the one-time
recertification fee, but stated the fact that there is not a database that recorded all of this
information is not the fault of the certificate holders, the shortcoming is on the County' s part.
Yet, we are charging the certificate holders for that. This is the reason he is so concerned about
the continuing annual cost. He likened it to a recall on a vehicle, when car manufacturers make a
mistake they do not ask the owner of the vehicle to pay for their mistake. He feels the
compromise would be to have everyone share in the cost, but not continue to charge certificate
holders for the shortcomings of the County.
Mr. Kimura stated the original intent was to help local families build houses for their
children. Unfortunately there were people out there who abused it, which is the reason we are in
this situation now.
Mr. Dahilig stated to simplify the Commission' s actions, the Department will amend the
Director' s Report to state : An initial regulatory fee of,$500 shall be charged upon initial
registration with a no-cost regulatory fee each
subsequentyear.
Ms. Anderson stated she is not against having just the $ 500 initial fee, but she does see
the logic with proposing the $200 annual fee as a way to encourage people to build their homes
as those who obtain their building permits earlier will not get punished. By having just the initial
fee, those that go out and complete their building within the first year will be charged the same
as those that take ten years.
On the motion by John Isobe and seconded by Sean Mahoney to approve the
recommendations of the Department, the motion carried by unanimous voice vote.
GENERAL BUSINESS MATTERS
Appeal on August .20, 2014 Notice of Violation of Order to Pay Fines by Patrick J.
Childs, Esq. , on behalf of Greg Allen. Sr. owner of 4241 Annini (sic) Road Kawaihau District
Tax Map Key 5-3 -007: 014.
Clerk of the Commission' s Recommendation to Receive the Appeal filed on August 20
2014 Concerning a Notice of Violation of Order to Pay Fines by Patrick J Childs Esq. , on
behalf of Greg Allen Sr. owner of 4241 Annini sic Road Kawaihau District Tax Ma Ke 5 -
3 -007 : 014 . Clerk' s further Request that a Contested Case Hearing be granted and set on the
matter before the Commission on December 9, 2014.
Deputy County Attorney Ian Jung represented the Planning Department in this particular
matter. Upon speaking with counsel for the appellant, they have stipulated to a briefing schedule
as well as the hearing on the contested case itself. They are collectively proposing to have a pre-
hearing conference on October 30 at 9 : 00 a.m. , pre-hearing statement deadlines for November 7,
and witness list and exhibit lists deadlines on November 7 as well. Counsel for the appellant
could not be present today, but sent Attorney Jung an email in concurrence with those dates.
They will be moving on to contested case mode on this matter scheduled for December 9. If the
Commission is okay with that Mr. Jung will do a joint stipulation with the appellant' s attorney,
and submit that for signature by the Planning Commission Chair,
Ms. Anderson asked if the December 9 meeting will be a regularly scheduled
Commission meeting to which Mr. Jung replied yes, the proposal by the Department is to have
the full Commission hear the matter.
On the motion by Amy Mendonca and seconded by Sean Mahoney to accept the
stipulation and ordering of the contested case hearing, the motion carried by unanimous
voice vote.
NEW BUSINESS
Special Management Area Use Permit SMA (U)-2015-2, Class IV Zoning Permit Z-IV-
2015-3 and Use Permit U-2015-3 to allow conversion of an existing residence into a bed and
breakfast operation on a parcel located along the mauka side of Weke Road in Hanalei Town,
situated at its intersection with Pilikoa Street further identified as Tax Map Key 5 -5-010: 032
and containing a total area of 7,568 sq. ft. = Ed Ben Dor and Joan Ben Dor. [Director' s Report
received 9/23/14.1 [Applicant' s Response to Planning Director's Report received 10/8/ 141
Mr. Dahilig recommended the planner be allowed to give his report, but given the
potential for a request of a contested case hearing, parties also be allowed to discuss the item
before the Commission entertains any discussion. The reason being in the event a contested case
hearing is requested by the applicant, the Commission switches modes, which should limit
discussion until evidence is presented. Mr. Dahilig suggested the receipt of the Director' s report
followed by allowing the attorneys to speak to try and resolve the issue before the Commission
commences with any discussion.
Staff Planner Dale Cua read a summary of the Director' s Report. (On file)
Mr. Dahilig requested that counsel for both parties be allowed to address the Commission
concerning the interpretation of the applicant' s response, and what procedures both parties wish
to initiate.
Deputy County Attorney Ian Jung represented the Planning Department in this matter.
Attorney Gregory Meyers, on behalf of the applicant, was present.
Attorney Jung explained this case was a bit unusual in that they would normally go into
full formal contested case hearing when dealing with intervention proceedings. However, in this
case there was an opposition to the Director' s report, which identified several concerns, one of
which was a lack of due process. Therefore, the Department interpreted that to mean there may
be a formal contested case hearing requirement. Attorney Jung spoke with counsel, to modify
some of the contested case procedures because under Rule 1 -6-6 there is an allowance to do so,
by either stipulation or consent order. One of the suggestions is to defer the matter, present
formal proposed Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law, and discuss those proposals at a later
meeting.
Attorney Meyers confirmed that was the discussion he and Attorney Jung had had on
how they should proceed. He noted his clients are not asking for a formal contested case, but are
here today with their daughter Summer, whom he considers a quasi-applicant as she will be
taking over the residence. She would like to address the Commission. Both he and Attorney
Jung have agreed that they would both like to propose Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law, and
the expectation would be that this body not vote on this matter today, but defer the item for
arguments, proposed Findings of Fact, Conclusions of law, and allow counsel for both parties to
stipulate exhibits if necessary.
Mr. Dahilig stated given the fact that a modified contested case hearing is being
proposed, he would recommend the Commission close agency hearing, and defer the matter for
two weeks to allow the receipt of stipulation procedures for such. Because those procedures
need to lay out the receipt of evidence, it would not be appropriate to discuss the receipt of any
kind of evidence at this time.
In response to Mr. Kimura, Mr. Dahilig explained because it appears counsel is
requesting some kind of contested case hearing, and are unsure what procedures will be
stipulated to at this tune, it would likely involve extensive discussion. Deferring the matter for
two weeks would make more sense. Mr. Kimura asked if it would make more sense to hold off
on all testimony for two weeks as well, to which Mr. Dahilig replied it is up to the Commission
whether or not the agency hearing needs to be closed or not. That is the Department' s suggestion
given the agency hearing would be the means for evidence to be presented; however, at this time
they are uncertain what the procedures that form receiving evidence for the modified contested
case would be.
Attorney Jung agreed to the recommendation; however, Attorney Meyers stated he would
prefer to move forward today, and have the quasi-applicant address the Commission today as she
has flown in from Oahu to do so. Attorney Meyers stated if details need to be worked out on
how to proceed with the evidentiary portion of the modified contested case hearing, he is
confident that he and Attorney Jung can work that out over lunch.
Mr. Dahilig stated there are briefing schedules that need to be laid out for things such as
witness lists, motions, etc. , which can be done today, but those schedules need to be stipulated or
agreed upon since the request for a contested case hearing was not clearly evident. They are
taking an abundance of caution given the overtones of due process being integrated into the
response. It is up to the Commission to decide whether they will provide for the hearing today,
or schedule it at a later date.
Attorney Meyers noted the applicants are not asking for any witnesses, or briefing
schedules as they just want to continue under the informal agency hearing today. All they are
asking, to which Mr. Jung agreed, is for both sides to submit proposed Findings of Fact,
Conclusions of Law. They are not concerned with having pre-hearing conferences, and do not
want to make this a formal issue, or do a formal contested case hearing. They would like to
move forward today. He acknowledged that it will need to be deferred for decision making, and
the opportunity for counsel to submit their proposals, but he will not be calling for witnesses, and
only wishes for his client to be heard from.
Mr. Kimura asked to clarify that Attorney Meyers is asking to close agency hearing, but
have action taken today. Attorney Meyers replied they want to move forward today, to allow
counsel to present information, and allow Summer Ben-Dor to provide testimony. If the
Commission has questions, they would like to be able to answer them today. If it were to get
deferred, at that time counsel for both parties could present their proposed Findings of Fact,
Conclusions of Law to the Commission for decision-making.
Attorney Jung stated he would have no objection to Summer Ben-Dor making a
statement as long as the Department has an opportunity to rebuff at a later date, which could be
included in their Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law. Mr. Kimura stated he does not want to
set a precedence for future applicants. -
Mr. Isobe asked where they are procedurally, noting they are currently in the public
hearing mode, and he is hearing that at some future date they will be accepting Findings of Fact,
Conclusions of Law. He expressed his confusion in that he thought in order to present Findings
of Fact, Conclusions of Law, they were required to move into a contested case hearing. Mr.
Kimura replied to get to the contested case hearing, they must first close agency hearing to which
Mr. Isobe stated yes, he understands that. However, he is hearing they are not going to do that,
but will still be accepting Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law.
Mr. Dahilig explained the pen-nit application process, as well as contested case hearing
process, as they relate to this particular application. He suspects counsel is attempting to
stipulate to the facts, and certain items that do not necessarily need to be entered into evidence,
but rather can be memorialized in a stipulated submittal. In order to get to that point, Attorney
Jung is not in objection to having the quasi-applicant testify now, as long as there are no
argumentative statements from counsel for the applicant. This can be looked at as an early entry
of evidence as opposed to testimony.
Mr. Isobe stated for clarification that they are in a semi-contested case hearing where
they are accepting evidence, but are not taking public testimony, though they are calling it public
testimony. Mr. Dahilig stated it can be characterized that way. In order to act on any kind of
contested case hearing down the line, agency hearing must be closed. Mr. Isobe asked to clarify
that they will 'be taking public, evidentiary testimony, and then close the hearing before moving
into some modified contested case hearing.
Deputy County Attorney Jodi Higuchi-Sayegusa, representing the Commission, stated
she would recommend closing the agency hearing, and if the parties agree to receive testimony
today, it would be in addition to the Findings of Fact being submitted at a later date.
Attorney Jung stated the rules allow for flexibility, and if they have an allegation of a
lack of due process, they can go into the formal contested case process. The Department would
like the opportunity to propose Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law, and have arguments on
those against the applicant in what they are looking at in their Findings of Fact, Conclusions of
Law. At the end of the day in a contested matter such as this where there is a"recommendation
opposing the applicant's permit, counsel must do a Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law
anyway in the event they reserve their right to appeal in circuit court.
Mr. Kimura asked if Attorney Jung agreed to what Attorney Higuchi-Sayegusa suggested
to which Attorney Jung replied yes. Attorney Meyers also replied yes, but noted he does not
consider Summer Ben-Don's presentation as public testimony; however, he has no problem with
whatever they need to do to allow her to speak today.
What is currently being proposed is to close agency hearing, and allow the quasi-
applicant to speak with the opportunity for the Department' s counsel to rebut her testimony in
their Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law.
Ms. Anderson asked to clarify what the role of the Commission will be, and whether the
testimony by Summer Ben-Dor will be seen as witness testimony, and if they are allowed to
question the witness. Mr. Kimura asked if this is going to be so complicated, could Ms. Ben-Dor
submit written testimony instead. Attorney Higuchi-Sayegusa explained the attorneys are trying
to streamline the process and make it more informal, but if the Commission wants the
opportunity to question, and characterize what Ms. Ben-Dor is presenting as testimony, it may be
more appropriate to follow a full evidentiary type of procedure in order to preserve any due
process issues.
Attorney Meyers asked, in that case, could they just characterize it as public testimony to
avoid all of that. Mr. Kimura asked if a written testimony could be accepted to which Attorney
Jung stated yes, he believes so; however the distinguishing factor is that Ms . Ben-Dor is not
necessarily the applicant, and though she is related to the applicant, her testimony is not coming
from the applicant. He would qualify her testimony as public testimony, and not applicant
testimony.
Attorney Higuchi-Sayegusa stated because agency hearing is still open, the Commission
can receive public testimony at this time, close the agency hearing, and then move into the
modified contested case.
The Commission received testimony from Summer Ben-Dor, who was speaking on
behalf of her sisters who could not be there. Ms. Ben-Dor stated her family has owned the home
for the past 28 years, where her she and her sisters grew up, and which has been rented out by
her parents since they were children as they split their time between Hawaii and the mainland.
Years ago they convinced their dad not to sell the house, and to instead rent it out so that they
could one day raise their own families there. She explained though they received their Transient
Accommodation Tax certificate in 1987, which was all that was necessary to operate a vacation
rental, they failed to re-apply 20 years later when the new laws came about. They were not
notified of the new laws, and are now being punished for not re-applying when there was no
reason for them not to; it was simply a circumstance of them being unaware. When they began
seeing TVR signs everywhere, they assumed it was for advertising purposes, and thought it did
not apply to them because they were grandfathered. Prior to being told they were in violation,
the County Real Property Tax Department still considered them as Transient Accommodations,
which caused their taxes to double. Ms . Ben-Dor acknowledged the importance of setting
boundaries to protect the land and people of Kauai, but they feel they are not the average
vacation rental as they did not buy the home for the sole purpose of using it as such; this is their
home. She speaks for herself and her sisters in saying their goal is to raise their own families and
live at their Hanalei home they were raised in, which they cannot afford to do at this time
without renting it. If the homestay pen-nit is denied, they will be forced to sell their home, which
will result in another community member being taken out of Hanalei. The new buyer will likely
be a person from the mainland who will only stay in the house a few weeks out of the year, and
rent it out the remainder of the time. One of the primary things the Planning Commission should
consider for the permits they seek is the compatibility to the neighborhood, and minimization of
adverse effects to the surrounding community. The area where the home is located is comprised
mostly of vacation rentals. Of all the neighbors they have spoken to, there has not be a single
person that has been against them renting their home when they are not present. Many have been
supportive as they are doing the same things in their own homes . Ms. Ben-Dor stated her
surprise in seeing the Director' s report describing the area as a residential community, noting
growing up, they were the only children in the neighborhood; their only neighbors were visitors
on vacation. They live on Kauai, which means their vacation rental has always been managed
on-island, and the money generated stays here. They ensure their guests respect parking, and
noise restrictions, and provide bicycles for guests to use, which they found have been utilized
;frequently along with public transportation as opposed to renting vehicles . They are located
across the street from the Hanalei Pavilion Beach Park, which is well known to have people
hanging out there that have broken into homes in the area. Ms . Ben-Dor stated her family has
helped to establish a community watch program, and have signage indicating such at the edge of
their property. There have been many home burglaries with unattended vacation rentals being
targeted, and Ms. Ben-Dor noted that when renting their home, it is occupied 95 percent of the
time. If they are forced to sell, it will likely be bought by someone living on the mainland who
will not be in the house for more than a couple weeks out of the year, which will give criminals
more opportunity to rob and loiter. As a homestay, she will be living in the home, providing
hands-on guest management, and it is their opinion that the homestay use is considerably better
than a pure TVR because of that. They have been sharing their home with friends and visitors
since they bought it 28 years ago, and are not trying to change anything in the community, but
just continuing what they have been doing all these years. In conclusion, the home is in an area
with a large percentage of vacation rental tax rates, which is profitable for the County of Kauai.
This type of development is far more responsible by providing an occupied residential unit
instead of a distant land owner. Ms. Ben-Dor asked the Commission to please consider what
benefits would arise from denying the pen-nit..
A motion was proposed to close agency hearing and defer the matter for two weeks to
take up the recommended stipulated procedure for the contested case hearing.
Attorney Myers stated it was not their intent to have a formal contested case hearing,
noting during discussions with the Department's counsel, he stated the intent was to have an
informal public hearing, and have the opportunity to submit Findings of Fact, Conclusions of
Law, which he understands would take longer than two weeks to prepare. If the Commission
feels they need to return to put the stipulation on the record so be it; however he is unsure that is
necessary.
Mr. Isobe asked whether it was necessary to defer it for two weeks, or could they defer it
pending a stipulated Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law being filed. Mr. Dahilig stated that
there is an identifiable intent to have a contested case, whether modified or not, but that
modification must be done by stipulation as there are rules that need to be followed due to the
assertion of due process. Because there is no hearings officer appointed at this time, things that
would formally be handled by such, a stipulation would have to be done by affirmative motion
by the Commission.
On the motion by Sean Mahoney and seconded by Angela Anderson to close agency
hearing and defer the matter for two weeks to take up the recommended stipulated
procedure for the contested case hearing, the motion carried by unanimous voice vote.
(The meeting recessed at 12 : 10 p.m.)
(The meeting resumed at 1 : 50 p.m.)
ZA-2015- 1 : _A .proposed ordinance to implement the South Kauai Community Plan
which is an update to the existing Koloa-Po` ipu-Kalaheo Development Plan, and includes the
communities of Koloa, Po` ipu, Kalaheo, Oma` o, and Lawa` i. .The proposed ordinance will
amend Chapter 10, Article 6 of the Kauai County Code to identify_potential special planning
areas to accommodate future Prowth and to establish new s ecial planning areas for the town
cores of K61oa and Kalaheo, and an area ad' acent to the Po` i u Road roundabout and
exceptions, modifications and additions to Chapters 8 9 and 10 of the Kauai County Code. The
Special Planning Areas will provide development standards and guidelines to help achieve the
goals and objectives for the South Kauai Planning District that were created through a up blic
planning process and with assistance from a Citizen' s Advisory Committee
Staff Planner Marie Williams along with Kimi Yuen of PBR. Hawaii provided an
overview of the proposal.
Ms. Yuen provided a PowerPoint presentation on the South Kaua` i Community Plan. (On
file)
Mr. Dahilig reminded the Commission of previous action taken on this item to leave the
hearing open and defer to the next meeting, noting that this presentation was simply for
informational purposes in order to begin the adoption process.
Mr. Kimura stated because the item has been deferred, he suggested the commissioners
review the plan, and list their questions, concerns, or suggestions to discuss at the next meeting.
Mr. Dahilig agreed, and added that the Department pre-analyze and offer assistance with any
clarifications, justifications, or proposed amendments.
Mr. Isobe stated it is his understanding that the plan is still in its draft form, and asked for
clarification on how and when they would get to the final plan to be adopted. The reason he
asked is to ensure the public is aware of any revisions or modifications to the plan as they go
along, and which version is the final plan for adoption. Mr. Dahilig stated while they do need to
solicit feedback, there is concern about having too many iterations of draft plans floating around.
The Department has been receiving much feedback from many different stakeholders, and hopes
to take all comments received, categorize them, and present theirs to the Commission. The next
Commission meeting can include discussion on the concerns, and proposed approaches of that.
Ms. Yuen stated she has been highlighting changes since the draft plan went out, and the
Commissioners will get that highlighted version that contains the compiled list of continents they
have received. Mr. Jung asked if it could be done in Ramseyer to which Ms. Yuen stated the
document will likely crash if she does it that way, which is why she prefers to have it
highlighted.
Attorney Jung pointed out the three components: the adopting ordinance, the plan itself,
and the maps that get adopted, and suggested the Commission be very clear about what they are
submitting changes on.
Mr. Dahilig stated this is the first time this body is adopting a corm-nunity plan since the
early 80 ' s, and are open to suggestions on the process of comment and review.
Mr. Isobe stated he compliments the Department for the effort, but because of the plan' s
importance, he wants to ensure that the body as well as the community understands what the
final plan they are adopting is. At some point the changes may be substantive, and that indicate
they may need to. go back to step one, which is public hearing, because it may be so different
from the original draft. The form-based code part of it, which is a separate ordinance, is not
typical when going through a community development plan process, and he is unsure whether
they should be commenting on the form-based code ordinance as well as the plan, including the
adopting ordinance and the maps. He thinks it is important that the public understand this
process, so there is no confusion, or accusations of inappropriate actions.
Mr. Kimura stated he did not realize how complex this whole thing would be, and
thought it would be something simple like the L-ihu` e Town Core Plan. He stated it is a lot to
take in, and is quite different than he expected, noting to make a decision or recommendation on
so many different aspects of the plan is premature. He is still trying to take it all in, and will take
some time for him to understand what the recommendations will be.
Ms. Mendonca agreed, pointing out that based on some of the testimonies they have
heard today, though there has been a concerted effort with community gatherings, she questions
how many residents out of the entire population of the area did they actually contact. It is her
understanding that this is the pilot plan that will guide the Lihu`e Town Core plan, and if this one
is not done right, they will make the same mistakes with L-hu` e. Mr. Kimura stated he believes
the consultants have had about 20 community meetings, and did receive community input.
Ms . Williams stated they did have an extensive outreach program, and twice sent invites
out at the very start of the process to every address in the South Kauai District; over 6,000
postcards were sent out inviting residents to visit the website, or join the mailing list.
Additionally, there was a section on the cards where comments could be written and sent back to
the Department. She does not know exactly how many of those residents chose to do so, but
innovative means of outreach that have never been used before in the Planning Department were
implemented.
Mr. Dahilig stated they want to do whatever they can to encourage civic participation,
and make it as easy as possible to comment on the plan, but it is difficult to get people to come
out.
Ms . Anderson commented she applauds the efforts thus far, and noted that sitting on the
Long Range Planning Committee has afforded her the opportunity to see the process evolve. She
has seen several drafts, and is happy with where it is at right now. She is open to speak with
individual commissioners if there are any questions on how the process has evolved.
Mr. Kimura stated it is a lot to take in, and would just like a better understanding of the
whole proposal.
Ms. Anderson asked whether the consultant would be making the highlighted version of
the changes available on the website to which Ms. Yuen stated it can be made available, and they
will be happy to do so.
Mr. Isobe asked if it would also be possible as they make those highlighted changes that
an executive summary be done along with it. Ms. Yuen stated absolutely, and additionally, they
will aggregate based on topic areas, and include it as a supplemental document.
Mr. Dahilig stated as long as the hearing is open and the record is clear as to what the
changes are based on, incoming feedback tends to be the safest bet in making the necessary
changes, which is why they are recommending keeping the hearing open at this time.
Mr. Kimura stated he feels it would be good to continue to have public input on
something this important.
The Commission received testmony from Beryl Blaich, board member of Malama
Mahaulepu, who read her written testimony into the record. (On file)
Mr. Isobe asked if Malama Mahaulepu was okay with the plan' s proposal to expand the
area around the golf course. Ms. Blaich replied when Malama Mahaulepu reformed in 2000 they
did an inventory of the watershed, and focused on conservation of the watershed, and also the
Punahoa Headlands where the stables are. That was based on the Paniolo cultural activity, and
because the stables dominate that coast so much that to allow development there would really
change a lot about the area. The other area focused on is the old quarry. They have supported
the IAL designation because they believe agriculture is part of the history of that area, but what
is being debated now is the compatibility. The ridge that comes down the valley, separating the
valley from the coast, the conservation lands along the ridges, and the coastal area that includes
agriculture lands are about 1 ,300 acres. Those are the areas of particular focus because that is
where the concentration of archaeological resources are. Ms. Blaich noted Grove Farm has been
very gracious when determining what they were interested in achieving with this plan for the
community, and asked Malaina Mahaulepu to have discussions with them. The aspirations
Grove Farm has for the village, industrial, and hotel are something they have known about, and
have given thought to. There are a few concerns about the resort site, but it is not in the area that
they have focused on conserving; however, there are many people that think Mahaulepu is
anything past the bypass road. It' s a very sensitive site, and will be challenging to develop, so it
would be good to spend more time reviewing some of those challenges.
Ms. Yuen stated they are pulling their proposal for RR- 10 zoning to R- 10, which is
stepping it down in that area.
Ms. Blaich commented she is very impressed with the response on this whole process.
Ms. Mendonca asked for clarification that if they have any other concerns they are to
inform the planners, and if those requests or concerns will be making an impact, they will be
informed to which Ms. Williams replied yes.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
The following scheduled Planning Commission meeting will be held at 9 :00 a.m., or
shortly thereafter at the Lihu` e Civic Center, Moikeha Building, Meeting Room 2A-2B, 4444
Rice Street, Lzhu` e, Kauai, Hawaii 96766 on Tuesday, October 28, 2014.
ADJOURNMENT
Vice Chair Anderson adjounied the meeting at 3 : 50 p.m.
- Respectfully submitted by:
Cherisse Zaim
Commission Support Clerk
O Approved as circulated (add date of meeting approval) .
( ) Approved as amended. See minutes of meeting.