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Minutes of Meeting
OPEN SESSION
Board /Committee:
Cost Control Commission
Meeting Date
October 13, 2014
Location
Mo'ikeha Building — Liquor Conference Room
Start of Meeting: 1:30 p.m.
End of Meeting: 2:48 p.m.
Present
Chair Arryl Kaneshiro; Members: Dirk Apao, Jan Hashizume, Sandi Sterker and Glen Takenouchi
Also present: Board & Commissions Office Staff: Support Clerk Mercedes Youn and Administrator Paula Morikami;
Invited Guests: Director of Finance Steve Hunt; County Engineer Larry Dill; Public Works Environmentalist Specialist Troy
Tanigawa; and Budget /Fiscal Specialist James Matsushige
Special Guest: The Honorable Mayor Bernard P. Carvalho Jr.
Excused
Vice Chair Laurie Yoshida and Commissioner Joanne Nakashima
Absent
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Call To Order
Chair Kaneshiro called the meeting to order at
1:30 p.m. with five (5) members present to
ascertain a quorum.
Approval of
Regular Open Session Minutes of September 8, 2014.
Commissioner Sterker moved to approve the
Minutes
meeting minutes as circulated. Commissioner
Takenouchi seconded the motion.
Motion carried 5:0
CCC 2014 -09
Review and discuss the County of Kauai 2013 CAFR and the County's
revenues — fees, rates, assessments and taxes for fiscal year 2014 -15.
(Deferred on July 14, 2014)
(b) Memorandum dated September 15, 2014, from Chair Arryl Kaneshiro
Commissioner Sterker moved to accept item
to County Engineer Larry Dill, requesting his presence to discuss solid
CCC 2014 -09 (b), for the record. Commissioner
waste /sanitation operations and expenses including reasons for the
Apao seconded the motion. Motion carried 5:0
substantial budget increases from 2009 and 2013.
Finance Director Steve Hunt — Mr. Hunt stated between fiscal year 2009
and 2013, the numbers reflect a full accrual as opposed to just a cash flow.
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He added in regard, to the modified accrual the largest change occurred
between fiscal year 2011 and 2012, due to the following factors 1) an
increase to depreciation expense of about $1.3 million; 2) increase to the
long term liability about $1.177 million; increase to workers' comp claims
about $45,000; 3) increase to capital asset adjustments of $596,000; and 4)
an increase of expenditures from $1.38 million to $17.93 million.
Additionally, Mr. Hunt stated although the actual expenditures in fiscal
year 2012, was $12.6 million they are still trying to figure out the
difference between the $12.6 million and $17.93 million and where the
modified accrual of those expenses was being derived from.
Mr. Hunt explained that with the 2014 CAFR still under way another
adjustment would occur because the Kekaha Landfill gas collection system
has been recognized as being a long term liability. He further explained
that relative to the cap (which has to be accounted for) there will be another
adjustment to the long term liabilities which will be reflected in sanitation
(although not actually being paying it out) because the cost will be
incorporated as part of the closure it will be booked in that period and will
be added to the long term liability.
Commissioner Hashizume asked whether the data reflected in the previous
pie chart was based on a full accrual to which Mr. Hunt replied yes.
Commissioner Hashizume then asked if the data in reflected in the current
pie chart is based just on cash flow to which Mr. Hunt replied the numbers
in the current pie chart reflect both cash flow and modified accrual.
Commissioner Hashizume asked from what he just told her in 2012, the
expenses based on modified accrual amounted to 12.6 million to which Mr.
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Hunt noted that the modified accrual actual amount was 17.928 million.
Commissioner Hashizume then asked in fiscal 2011, if the modified
accrual amounted to 12.6 million to which Mr. Hunt explained that the
12.6 million in 2012, was actual cash out of pocket and in fiscal year 2011,
the actual modified accrual was 11.38 million.
Chair Kaneshiro suspended the rules to accommodate Mayor Carvalho's
resentation to the Cost Control Commission.
Mayor Bernard
Mayor Carvalho thanked the Commissioners for all the work they do for
P. Carvalho Jr.
the County of Kauai. Mayor Carvalho shared with the Commission about
a discussion he had with all department heads on how to make government
more efficient. On September 2, Mayor Carvalho said he delivered a
directive to all department heads and their deputies to look at the
operational piece within their organization on how to best manage
ourselves internally and externally to ensure that the public and the
employees in the County needs are met in an efficient and timely manner.
To achieve this every department head and deputy will be required to
develop a written organizational plan by November 1 on what their overall
plan will be in order to 1) improve service to the internal and external
customer (to be more responsive to co- workers & the public); 2) improve
operational efficiency and effectiveness (doing it faster but doing it better);
3) reduce personal cost (this does not mean eliminating positions) by
looking at alternatives such as consolidating, transferring, sharing functions
between divisions and departments, breaking down silos, crossing over and
sharing resources to help each other; 4) recommendations must be realistic
and achievable (legally permissible and acceptable to the unions as well).
Mayor Carvalho also shared with the Commission the Customer Service
Mission Statement and County of Kauai Values Statement, which was
developed internally by County employees.
Continuation —
Chair Kaneshiro called the meeting back to order at 1:46 p.m.
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CCC 2014 -09
Mr. Hunt stated as a true measure of cost the pie chart is probably correct
but it's not an annual cost its' more of a term long cost and although it
shows change year to year its booking long term obligations.
Chair Kaneshiro asked if the County noticed any increases in actual
operation costs to which Mr. Hunt replied, he believes the actual operation
costs between fiscal year 2011 and 2012, increased from 11.4 million to
12.6 million. Chair Kaneshiro noted that he found it difficult to see the
actual operational costs by just looking that the current pie chart because
when the Commission looked at the previous pie chart it did not realize
that it was based a modified accrual and that all of the increases was
strictly related to the operational expenses.
Chair Kaneshiro asked if the operating expenses in 2009 show that it was
closer to the 11 million mark.
Budget /Fiscal Specialist James Matsushige - Mr. Matsushige clarified in
2009, the total operating expenses was 8.96 million; in 2010 it was 12.74
million; 2011 atl 1.35 million; 2012 at 12.62 million; and in 2013 the total
operating expenses reached 12.72 million. Chair Kaneshiro asked why in
2009, the numbers were so low to which Mr. Matsushige replied, he
believes an adjustment was made but was unsure.
Commissioner Hashizume asked if there was break in the total actual cost
and what would be considered the largest cost to which Mr. Matsushige
replied, probably the salaries and health insurance costs. Commissioner
Apao asked how the department is doing with its year to year overtime
expenditures to which Mr. Matsushige replied, in 2009, the approximate
overtime expenditures amounted to $847,000, but 2013, the total overtime
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expenditures decreased to $191,000.
County Engineer Larry Dill - Mr. Dill stated the Solid Waste Department
made a conscience decision to reduce its overtime cost. He stated although
the biggest ticketed item was transitioning from manual to an automated
collection system, in the last 4 years, the department managed to decrease
its cost to $680,000 annually. In addition, to reduce overtime cost the
department decided to cut its transfer station operating hours from a 10
hour day to an 8 hour day. Mr. Dill stated as everyone is well aware the
Solid Waste Department has been charging its customers a residence refuse
collection assessment fee, but since then the number of customers have
decreased which helped to reduce overtime cost. Mr. Dill stated he is
remains hopeful that the trend will continue because they are aiming at
completing an island -wide automated curbside refuse collection by July
2015. The intent is to encourage residents to engage in more recycling and
waste diversion as well as reduce the amount of trash that goes into the
landfill.
Public Works Environmental Specialist Troy Tanigawa - Mr. Tanigawa
stated in 2009, the Solid Waste Department budgeted $500,000 to process
green waste, but the department has become a victim of its own success
because they now have to hire contractors to process every cubic yard of
green waste resulting in a 1.3 million budget increase making it the biggest
contributor in solid waste.
Commissioner Sterker asked if the increase is contributed to the no burn
regulation to which Mr. Tanigawa replied, it is not all contributed to the no
burn because the waste diversion numbers considers all types of diversions
from Kauai recycles (traditional recyclables) being diverted such as green
waste, tires, scrap metal, etc. In addition, there are other diversions that
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occurs without the County's subsidy which includes back hulling of
cardboards from the bigger stores and outlets including the Department of
Health recyclables He stated to keep track of the diversion numbers his
staff would the Department of Health and other the businesses to get their
back hull information, in turn his staff will compile all of the information
to come up with an overall diversion number for the County of Kauai.
Commissioner Sterker asked if the Solid Waste Department has a separate
area to contain and dispose of all the hazardous waste materials to which
Mr. Tanigawa replied, they do have a household hazardous waste
collection program which, contributes to the diversions although it is not a
large quantity. He stated although the materials that is diverted by the
County's program is more toxic the diversion of these materials from the
landfill reduces toxicity of what's in the landfill which in the long run will
benefit the County by reducing liability in that respect. Mr. Tanigawa the
participation rates have grown and the program itself went from once a
year to twice a year at a cost of $120,000. Commissioner Takenouchi
asked if the County gets any revenues generated by the recyclable program
to which Mr. Tanigawa replied no.
Chair Kaneshiro asked if there are other recyclable opportunities besides
the automated trash collection the County is looking into to reduce cost to
which Mr. Tanigawa replied, they are currently doing an internal review
based on the Mayor's instructions. He stated although the discussions did
not turn over any new revelations they are continuing to look for ways to
become more cost efficient. Chair Kaneshiro stated as far as the landfill
goes what type of financial outlook his department sees as a problem that
would drive the cost up.
Mr. Tanigawa stated unfortunately, the County still uses a low tech
management method that is based on using heavy equipment and
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manpower which is causing a steady increase in labor cost. Mr. Tanigawa
stated there are working other means to reduce the amount of materials
going into the landfill which he feels will eventually contribute to some
savings with respect to the cost of the landfill. He added although there
are new technologies out there to manage waste it is always evolving and
they are doing their best to keep abreast of everything.
Commissioner Sterker stated from that she understands the mainland
landfills are working to find different ways to use the methane. She asked
if that was possible here. Mr. Dill replied yes, in fact, the County's vertical
landfill expansion which was recently passed has a threshold that requires
the County to install (inaudible) so, right now they are working with the
Office of Economic Development on doing a feasibility study not just for
extracting/processing the gas but how the County can turn it into
compressed natural gas. He stated about a week ago, an RFI was issued
(Request for Information) for anyone to submit in writing alternate means
for disposing solid waste because it's no secret that the business of solid
waste is an expensive costing the County an annual operating budget of 15
million of which half is funded by money the Solid Waste Department
generates. He noted that the monies that they generate (from his
perspective) to subsidize the County's General Fund should be the other
way around.
Commissioner Sterker asked for clarification on what an RFI is to which
Mr. Dill replied, an RFI is non - committal and does not involve money. He
stated the solid waste division have been talking with KIUC as a potential
significant player. He stated Mayor Carvalho has executed a (inaudible)
agreement for extending an MOU/MOA with KIUC to allow the Solid
Waste Department and KIUC to work together to pursue other projects. He
added if the County decides to build a waste energy facility it needs to
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ensure that the project is not detrimental to KIUC, but beneficial to both
parties.
Chair Kaneshiro asked if there are there other ways to use the methane
including the materials that are in found in the landfill or would it be too
dangerous. Mr. Dill stated that is something he is hoping the RFI would
clarify. He noted that there are others who would say not only can they
take your current trash they can also go into the landfill and process those
things to see whether or not it can be used to generate energy.
Commissioner Takenouchi asked what the deadline for the RFI is to which
Mr. Dill replied January 15, 2015.
Chair Kaneshiro asked if they have any programs coming up to help further
encourage the diversion from the landfill such as recycling to which Mr.
Tanigawa replied there are couple incentives that they currently pursuing,
they had meetings with a couple of stakeholders (local businesses) to try to
finalize an ordinance to establish mandatory business recycling. He stated
if the proposed ordinance passes the County Engineer will then designate
the target materials and the businesses will have to comply. However, there
may be some misunderstanding because the County will not impose
recycling on any type of materials that do not have local options available
to the businesses to do the diversions.
Commissioner Hashizume stated with the focus being on transitioning to
automation and all of the recycling cost involved is the County anticipating
increasing its manpower to which Mr. Tanigawa replied it would all
depend on the service but as of right now, the County is trying to maximize
its ability to use its workforce. He stated once that is in place they would
have a lot more ability to control cost especially, overtime.
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Mr. Hunt stated of the one thing relative to the modified accrual that may
not be reflected in the operational budget is the Solid Waste Fund which
pays for the debt service because they had to refinance in 2010 which is
fiscal year 2011 when the big jump occurred. They went to an AMT and
because there was a third -party operator they can't be a municipal tax -free
bond it has to a bond that has no tax exempt status. He stated a big portion
of that increase in the operations was probably directly coming from the
Solid Waste transfer into the Debt Service Fund which would not be
necessarily reflected in their operational budget.
With further discussion, all four gentlemen left the meeting at 2:36 p.m.
Announcements
Next meeting — December 8, 2014, at the Mo'ikeha Building in the Liquor
Conference Room.
Chair Kaneshiro asked when the Commission's Annual Report is due. Ms.
Morikami stated because the Commission did not make any
recommendations for this year, the Annual Report can reflect a summary of
what the Commission had worked throughout the year. Commissioner
Sterker stated that she would like a representative from the Parks and
Recreation Department present at the next meeting to discuss the public's
misuse of electricity from the County's park facilities. Chair Kaneshiro
noted his only concern has to do with who is going to enforce the rules and
regulations, if any. Commissioner Sterker asked whether the Commission
will have an opportunity to do a site visit of the old Big Save building. Ms.
Morikami noted rather than have a meeting in November she could make
arrangements with Mr. Dill to have the Commission do the site visit. Chair
Kaneshiro asked what the proper protocol's (relative to the Sunshine Law)
needs to be met before the tour can take place. Ms. Morikami stated the
site visit can take place by scheduling two Commissioners at half an hour
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intervals:
1:30 p.m. Commissioners Kaneshiro and Takenouchi
2:00 p.m. Commissioners Apao and Hashizume
2:30 p.m. Commissioners Yoshida and Nakashima
After a lengthy discussion the Commissioners decided to place the
following items on the December agenda:
1. Request for a representative from Parks and Recreation to discuss
the public's misuse of the County's park facilities;
2. Possible up -date by County Engineer relative to the old Big Save
space;
3. Discussion on the Cost Control Commission 2014 Annual Report
Adjournment
Commissioner Sterker moved to adjourn the
meeting. Commissioner Takenouchi seconded
the motion. Motion carried 5:0
At 2:48 p.m. the meeting adjourned.
Submitted by:
Mercedes Youn, Staff Support Clerk
( x ) Approved as circulated on December 8, 2014.
( ) Approved as amended. See minutes of meeting.
Reviewed and Approved by:
Laurie Yoshida, Vice Chair