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Minutes of Meeting
OPEN SESSION
Approved as circulated 5/19/14
Board/Committee:
CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION
Meeting Date
April 28, 2014
Location
Mo'ikeha Building, Meeting Room 2A/213
Start of Meeting: 4:06 p.m.
End of Meeting: 5:54 p.m.
Present
Vice Chair Jan TenBruggencate. Members: Ed Justus; Patrick Stack; Carol Suzawa
Also: Deputy County Attorney Marc Guyot; Boards & Commissions Office Staff. Support Clerk Barbara Davis; Administrator Paula
Morikami; Administrative Aide Teresa Tamura and Curtis Shiramizu of Shiramizu Nakamura Loo, Attorneys at Law
Testifier: Michael Shooltz
Excused
Members: Mary Lou Barela; Joel Guy
Absent
Chair James Nishida
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Call To Order
Vice Chair TenBruggencate called the meeting
to order at 4:06 pm with 4 Commissioners
resent which constitutes a quorum
Approval of
Regularpen Session Minutes of March 24, 2014
Mr. Justus moved to approve the minutes as
Minutes
circulated. Ms. Suzawa seconded the motion.
Motion carried 4:0
Business
CRC 2013-03 Review of Recommendations in Ramseyer form from legal
analyst Curtis Shiramizu on identifyin agnd proposing non -substantive
corrections and revisions to the Kauai County Charter for Articles XXIV
through XXXII (On -going)
Mr. Shiramizu apprised the Commission that he would not be available for
the May meeting.
Section 24.01 B, fifth line: leave nor as listed in the original charter.
Section 24.01 B, second paragraph: indent first line of the paragraph. Mr.
Justus suggested we recheck the previous work reviewed by the
Commission for proper indentation.
Section 24.03, sixth line: add comma following mayor; seventh line: add
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comma following council.
Section 26.03: suggested insertion of commas accepted by Commission.
Section 26.04 A: suggested insertion of commas accepted by Commission.
Section 26.04 B: Mr. Justus questioned if this section needs a historical
notation. Mr. Shiramizu said presently the Commission cannot do anything
about it, but currently there is a county auditor. Deputy Attorney Guyot
said there are two oddities as there is an office of the county auditor, which
is assigned to the County Council, and there is no longer an office but there
is a position of county treasurer, which is in the Department of Finance. To
clarify it they might consider adding that the positions were transferred to
the County Council and Department of Finance respectively. Vice Chair
TenBruggencate said that rises beyond the level of a non -substantive
change.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate asked for sections
26.04 B and C to be placed on the May agenda
Section 26.06: Mr. Shiramizu stated the Revised Laws of Hawaii 1955
as an item for discussion.
have been replaced by the HRS (Hawai`i Revised Statutes), but it was
decided previously to leave it as is. Deputy Guyot asked if there was a
footnote that could be put in at the bottom noting the Revised Laws have
been superseded by the HRS. Vice Chair TenBruggencate said this happens
in other places in the charter and perhaps a footnote to the entire charter
making a note that where there are references to Revised Laws of Hawaii
they have been supplanted by the Revised Statutes. Because it is a
substantive change, the Commission cannot change it, but it does need to be
addressed and the footnote could be non -substantive.
Section 26.10, fourth line: leave rights as listed in the original charter.
Section 27.01, first sentence: change "elective" to elected.
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Section 27.06, eighth sentence: leave nor as listed in the original charter.
Section 28.01: add header Organization.
Section 28.04: add header Duties.
Section 28.03: Leave the word Repealed as written in the charter. While no
further reference to section 28.03 was found within the charter, there might
be references to that section in other county documents or court records so
it should remain as part of the document.
Section 29.03, tenth sentence: to read ............. the salary commission for
the position; provided that elected officers.. I ...... I.
Article XXX: Discussion ensued as to whether to delete the word "this"
preceding the word "article XXX" or to leave "this" in place and delete
"XXX". The Commission came to the agreement to leave the word this
throughout the article and to delete XXX.
Section 30.02, second paragraph, last line: add a comma following the
word economic.
Section 30.03 B: use lower case for tenure and directors.
Section 30.03 D (2), third from last sentence: add a comma following
Colleges in Western Association of Schools and Colleges.
Section 30.03 D, fourth paragraph, seventh sentence: leave provided that as
written in the charter.
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Section 30.04 C: use lower case for executive and officer. Leave the
numbering of items in the second paragraph as originally shown in the
charter and elsewhere when it appears as such.
Section 30.05 B and D: leave state in the lower case in both subsections.
Section 30.06 D, end of sentence: add this before the word article and delete
XXX.
The original amendment uses quotation marks prior to the section header,
Article XXX, and at the end of 30.06 D. Should these quotation marks be
removed?
Section 32.01, header: delete the word established and the semicolon and
insert the word of to read Office of county auditor.
Mr. Justus moved that the word "established;"
be removed and the word "of ' inserted in
Section 32.01. Mr. Stack seconded the motion.
(No vote on actual motion)
Section 32.02 A: place a line through the section to be deleted [C-y
CharterAf iele T�Qeetion 3.17] for consistency with Ramseyer work.
Section 32.02 E, first line: following section 3.12 colon start a new
Vice Chair TenBruggencate asked that Section
paragraph with "An agency......
32.02 E and 3.12 be placed on the May agenda
for discussion to clarify the quoted material and
why it was written with quotes and are there any
Mr. Shiramizu suggested it was a section defining what an agency or
legal issues with either section as written.
operation of the county is so that nothing slips through or to provide clarity
as to what is or what is not. Section C talks about what the responsibility is
for carrying out any audit noting the fourth line refers to any agency or
operation of the county. It seems they were putting in a definition to
agency or operation of the county, which is subject to this audit process.
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There is an audit process in Section 32 and also in 3.12. Mr.
TenBruggencate said it is not a direct quote, it is a definition saying these
words include these things. After further explanation from Deputy Guyot,
Mr. Justus noted that the spirit of the issue would supersede the actual text
and said he no longer had an issue and did not need a discussion on this
item. Vice Chair TenBruggencate thought it was still worthy of a
discussion at the next meeting.
Section 32.02 E: set up as three separate paragraphs without spaces
between paragraphs, which will serve as the purpose of definitions.
Section 32.03 Al fifth line: delete space between section 32.02 and C.
Section 32.04: underscore entire header section and use upper case on the
word concerning.
Section 32.03 E: keep as originally listed in the Charter by leaving a period
following Section 23.02., and deleting the suggested commas before and
after Boards and Commissions.
Mr. Shiramizu to provide the full amended
Charter in Ramseyer version to the Commission
at the next meeting.
Ms. Morikami said the Boards and Commission Office is looking at the cost
of publishing the entire Charter as an insert in the newspaper as required by
the County Charter (Section 24.02 B). This Commission might want to
consider a proposal for the ballot that allows for on-line publishing of
proposed amendments. With this Charter amendment, along with all the
other proposed amendments, it will be quite a bit of money from the County
to publish all items in their entirety in a newspaper of general circulation.
Ms. Morikami suggested the Commission consider placing this item on the
next agenda for consideration of publishing in the newspaper or on-line.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate requested this item
be placed on next month's agenda
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CRC 2014-02 Discussion and possible decision -making on a proposed
amendment to Article XXIV relating to signatures required in a petition for
a charter amendment.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate explained this proposal would increase the
number of signatures of registered voters in the last election from the
current 5 percent to 20 percent, which would be the same number as is
required for an initiative or a referendum. This commission talked
generally about this a couple of years ago.
Michael Shooltz — This is a very significant change with questions about
what it might entail, when it would go into effect, what the motivation is
behind it, and who proposed it. Currently there are a few thousand people
working to bring a charter amendment to the ballot who will want answers
as well. There seems to be business entities working on stripping the rights
of the people.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate stated that if this Charter amendment gets on
the ballot and passes, it would have no impact on this election cycle or the
charter amendment Mr. Shooltz is proposing. Deputy Guyot confirmed
that a charter amendment could not take place for the election in which it
was approved.
Mr. Shooltz is concerned that the voice of the people has a vehicle to be
heard. He asked how long the current 5 percent has been in effect and was
informed since the charter has been in place. Vice Chair TenBruggencate
stated that Kauai has the lowest bar in any county so he brought this
proposal to the Charter Commission. While he is not firm on the 20 percent
there have been two occasions where the people have been misled and used
a charter amendment process to pass something that more appropriately
might have been an initiative; as a result the charter amendments were
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thrown out in court. Vice Chair TenBruggencate's concern is that it is
easier to propose an amendment to the fundamental governing document of
the County of Kauai than it is to propose an ordinance.
Mr. Shooltz is concerned that the perception is that certain entities on the
island are influencing our government in ways that will be upsetting to
people based on the current environment. Vice Chair TenBruggencate
asked Mr. Shooltz if he understood the difference in gravity between a
charter amendment and a simple ordinance; if the numbers had been
reversed would he have approached this charter amendment differently.
Mr. Shooltz said they might have, but he is not the legal guy. He said they
did strive to do an ordinance through the County Council for the past year
and a half and were not successful. There is a lot of frustration in the public
about the legal process. Vice Chair TenBruggencate explained that today
was the beginning of the discussion, and it may not be finished in time for
this year's election.
Mr. Justus said even if the Commission agrees to this idea he does not think
the populace is going to be willing to make it harder for themselves to
change their government. He further said he does not think it has a chance
of passing as it is counter -intuitive to the American thinking. Chair
TenBruggencate disagreed. Ms. Suzawa believes past problems with
amendments proposed through 5 percent of the registered voters has been a
waste of taxpayer's money, and there may have been a different vehicle to
get it done. Mr. Justus was not sure just raising the bar would prevent those
types of amendments from appearing, but perhaps it might solve some of
the problems if they have to go through legal review. Vice Chair
TenBruggencate again stated the fundamental point is that changing the
County Charter, the basic organizational document of county government,
should be harder than passing a law; currently in the County of Kauai it is
the opposite way. Vice Chair TenBruggencate noted he would be open to
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discussing signatures required for charter amendments, initiatives and
Ms. Suzawa moved to defer this item to next
referendums.
month. Mr. Justus seconded the motion. Motion
carried 4:0
Announcements
Next Meeting: Monday, May 19, 2014 — 4:00 p.m.
Adjournment
Vice Chair TenBruggencate adjourned the
meetin at 5:54 p.m.
Submitted by:
Barbara Davis, Support Clerk
() Approved as is.
O Approved with amendments. See minutes of
Reviewed and Approved by:
meeting.
Jan TenBruggencate, Vice Chair