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HomeMy WebLinkAboutm5-6 KAUAI COUNTY HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMISSION Lihue Civic Center, Moikeha Building, Meeting Room 2A/213 MINUTES A regular meeting of the Kaua` i County Historic Preservation Commission (KHPRC) was held on May 6, 2010 in the Lihue Civic Center, Moikeha Building, Meeting Room 2A/2B. The following Commissioners were present: Randy Wichman, Chairperson, Danita Aiu, Vice Chairperson, Patsy Sheehan, Molly Summers, and Alan Faye, Jr. The following Commissioner was absent: Dennis Alkire. CALL TO ORDER Chairperson Wichman called the meeting to order at 3 : 1 1p.m. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA Chair: At this point we need to get a motion to approve the agenda and receive for the record all submittals, applications, staff reports, testimony and other addendums presented to the Commission relating to the proposed agenda. Ms. Sheehan: So moved. Ms. Aiu: I second. Chair: It' s been moved and seconded. Any further discussions? (None.) All in favor? (Unanimous voice vote.) Opposed? (None.) APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES Chair: We need a motion now to approve the April 1 , 2010 minutes . Mr. Faye: I want to say one thing about those minutes. They are a treasure. So much information let' s give Shan a hand for a good set of minutes. Chair: Always. Mr. Sheehan: I move to accept. May 6, 2016 K.H.P.R,C. Meeting Minutes Page 2 Mr. Faye : Second. Chair: It' s been moved and seconded, any corrections to the minutes? Mr. Faye: I couldn't find any. Typos but not worth. . . Chair: Any further discussions? (None.) All in favor? (Unanimous voice vote.) Opposed? (None.) Motion carries . ANNOUNCEMENTS AND GENERAL BUSINESS MATTERS There were no Announcements and General Business Matters. COMMUNICATIONS There were no Communications. UNFINISHED BUSINESS There was no Unfinished Business. NEW BUSINESS Re: Use Permit (U-201045), Class IV Zoning Permit (Z4V-201047), and Special Permit (SP-20104) to permit the construction and operation of a wastewater reclamation facility and associated wastewater collection system in Koloa, located at the former Koloa Mill site on Mahaulepu Road, further identified as Tax Map Keys 2-9- 002 : 001 and 2-9401 :001 ; and to permit the construction and operation of a wastewater pump station in Koloa, further identified as Tax Map Key 2-&011 : 001 = HOH Utilities, LLC. Chair: New Business, Use Permit, Class IV Zoning, Koloa Mill. Please come forward. Welcome. Mr. Earl Matsukawa: Good afternoon Chair and Members of the Kauai Historic Preservation Review Commission. I want to thank you for having us here to present our project and to solicit your input on our project. My name is Earl Matsukawa with the firm of Wilson Okamoto Corporation representing HOH Utilities and we have Julie Simonson and Francis Yamada, Senior Planner. I am relatively new to this project and our firm but Francis has been with it the whole time. So if you have questions that I can't answer she' ll be able to help me. And then Dr. Hai Hammatt with Cultural Surveys Hawaii he did the archeological reports and the cultural impact assessments. May 6, 2010 K.H.P.R.C. Meeting Minutes Page 3 Chair: And Gerald Iida. Mr. Matuskawa: And we were here last May I think to present to you the Cultural Impact Assessment. That CIA was a part of the Environmental Impact Statement for the Koloa-Poipu Regional Waste Water Reclamation Facility Project and that was a much larger project. Since that time the EIS we prepared, we distributed, we did the final EIS and then the County accepted on November 20th of last year. So that process is done. Now we are going to go forward. We are requesting some permits this time for the first phase of the project and we are here to describe the first phase. This is the project that was covered by the EIS. It's a larger project. There are four pump stations in the project. There are a whole bunch of lines, of course main and gravity lines and the regional waste water reclamation facility. This project is for this portion. It' s just this tip portion of this project at the Koloa Waste Water pump station and the regional waste water reclamation facility. Let' s kind of zoom in here on the next map. This is the service area. These are gravity lines and the pump station is located on Weliweli Road near the intersection of Waikomo Road. So this is the pump station, this is covered by the permits. And then the waste water reclamation facility is also being covered by this permit. The lines that are proposed also are really already permitted uses so they are not part of this permit request. Zooming in even more this is the Koloa Sugar Mill and this project will be using a portion of the bagasse building and then the existing water tank to store the R4 quality water which is the treated water. The final product which is suitable for many beneficial uses and it also covers this infiltration basin. This is a requirement. So this is kind of a vertical exaggeration but it' s basically a basin about three feet deep required by the State Department of Health. It's to be used for emergencies you know if there is anything that should go wrong at the plant processing it can be discharged here and to store waste water. It can even if R- 1 cannot be stored here or if it doesn't meet the proper quality to be used it can be temporarily stored here. So it's the emergency infiltration basin. Within that bagasse building most of the facilities will be located on a portion. Again this is only the first phase of the entire, so there is more development in the future phases but this first phase involves construction/installations of equipment within the bagasse building and then some on the outside of the building. But most of the things on the outside of the building will be underground including a pump station, effluent pump station and the biofilter which is an odor control equipment and those will all be underground. The only thing that will be above ground is the emergency generator and it will be covered so there will be a roof type structure over the generator. And there will be some other lines to be constructed. And this permit has been routed to the State Historic Preservation Division and they responded last Friday, April 30th and basically they found that this use of the bagasse building and the existing water tank is a, what is the term, adaptive reuse of the building of these two facilities and that they also recognize that the bagasse building and the water tank are not fifty years old so May 6, 2010 KAT.R.C. Meeting Minutes Page 4 technically they are not historic properties but the use does indirectly affect the other historic buildings. So there is an indirect affect. So what they have recommended is that some photographic documentation be prepared and submitted to the Historic Preservation Division. They have also requested that the original copy of the original plans for the conveyor system within the bagasse building be submitted to the Historic Preservation and they felt that was adequate mitigation for this project so they could get a no effect determination. Chair: Yes quite reasonable too. Mr. Matsukawa: And I think that letter has been made available for you. So that's my presentation and we are here to ask if you have any other input on the permit. Mr. Faye: You have, well our perspective is for more or less any other archeological or historical things. I was just wondering when you become full capacity, which I think is a million gallons a day, that's the year 2020 or 2025 or something like that. By that time you will be up to the full capacity right? Mr. Matsukawa: Yes. Mr. Faye: Does that actually serve everything? The whole Kukuiula? Mr, Matsukawa: I think Kukuiula too . I am not sure . Chair: They will tie in eventually. Ms. July Simonson: It also assumes that the existing plant in Poipu would continue to operate in conjunction with the plant at the mill. So between those two facilities that should be adequate for the projected build out in 2020. Mr. Faye: There was some comment about existing facilities need to be improved too right. There is something ancient about them too right? Some upgrade? Mr. Matsukawa: The immediate concern is to address some of the business that have large capacity cesspools and they have gone through the EPA to convert and they are facing imminent high fines . That' s one of the reasons they are moving forward with this right now. But I am not sure about existing treatment facilities. Mr. Faye: So I am not sure about this whole plan, this whole facility is still private non government funded? Mr. Matsukawa: Yes a private system. Mr. I like that idea. Mr. Matsukawa: It's a public utility. May 6, 2010 K.H.P.R.C. Meeting Minutes Page 5 Ms. Sheehan: I just had a question on the reclamation overflow. Is that going to be dug out or is that on land and you are building up the sides? Mr. Matsukawa: We are building up the sides. Ms. Julie Simonson: Yes and there is actually an existing berm that exists around a portion of it. So we are going to use the existing berm and create another berm on two of the sides. And so it' s for the times you know if there is an extended period of wet whether you know people don't need the irrigation water to water plants or if there is some sort of plant upset. DOH requires that you have your primary irrigation and then a back up. Ms. Sheehan: So is that big enough for the whole project or is this just phase I sized. Ms. Simonson: It' s for the whole project. Ms. Sheehan: It is for the whole project and archeological things so as far as testing of what's underneath that have you done that? Chair: Yes. Mr. Faye: There is trenching involved right? Chair: And the Koloa connections. Mr. Matsukawa: There is a standard SHPD requirement if there is anything found. Ms. Aiu: Ok so my question was about noxious odors. I know that is not historical but I will make it relate. Over at Lydgate more often then not, and I am down there all the time, there is the odor. Now when the odor comes out evidently there is some particulates in the air and that's what causes the odor would you say that the particulates like for example when I was in Greece they have acid rain and it covers the statues etc. and I was wondering if you had an idea about particulate matter maybe affecting the existing historical buildings that are within our purview? Ms. Simonson: The gases that come out like the hydrogen sulfide and things like that so we have an in ground biofilters so our goal is to capture those odors and to treat them so that they don't leave the site and create the odors that happen at Lydgate. You know the Poipu Wastewater Plant, again that's a plant that has been there for twenty to twenty-five years, we recently upgraded it. It still has an older technology you know that doesn't have the odor problem like Lydgate. So with the different technologies and different plants you can minimize those issues. So I think using the newer technology will minimize it and then the odor control system will also minimize it. And as for how those gases potentially affect buildings I don't know. Ms. Aiu: You have any research? Ms. Simonson: You know it' s not a question that I have been asked. You know I have been in the wastewater field for twelve years/thirteen years and that is not something that has come up. May 6, 2010 KRP.R.C. Meeting Minutes Page 6 You know my initial reaction is that one we capture so we don 't give em a chance to get out and create a problem. And two, I think there is small enough quantity that it wouldn' t have an issue but then again that's just. . . Mr. Matsukawa: I think some of the stuff that is going on in Europe there is a lot of gas and it reacts with the rain water and becomes acid rain. I think they have been dealing with that on some of the things that spew that out. I forget the exact I should go back I studied that stuff. But it is from air pollution and more combustion type air pollution that causes this acid rain. It is how the wind blows and how it gets in the atmosphere but I think we are talking about something this small and which is really controlled. If you are in the sewer where there is really high concentration of that sulfuric I mean that hydrogen sulfide and there is motion in there, you know that's how the sewer pipe really deteriorates you know it eats the concrete. In this kind of case I don't think you got enough in the atmosphere to really interact with the water. Ms. Aiu: Thank you, Mr. Faye: Last question for me the area that you are servicing are primarily the older buildings right? Mr. Matsukawa: In Koloa Town the immediate ones, the yellow area and they are the ones that especially need that because they are on the large capacity cesspools and they need to get them in compliance with the EPA. Mr. Faye: Has the EPA sort of been quite about it? Mr. Matsukawa: There was a recent fine that was imposed. Ms. Simonson: It was in the paper recently. Gay & Robinson got find for some of their camps. It was a hundred and ten thousand dollar fine that was issued to them. Now in Koloa Town there is only one business I am aware of that has correspondence with the EPA but the EPA is (inaudible). So they gave people, you know sometimes they comply but they are getting a little less patient. Mr. Faye: You would actually be operational by the end of this year. By the end of this year you are going to have 30,000 gallons? Mr. Simonson: That is the goal because we are a private utility and we are not a government agency. We rely on; it's basically funded by our customers. So you know as long as our customers come through and say yes we want this here is your check we will build it but you know we are waiting for them to give us the go ahead. For them there needs to be a certain number jumping on board to make it cost affective for everybody. So we are hoping to get underway and get something by the end of the year but we are not sure if that would happen. Mr. Faye: Before you get a hundred and ten thousand dollar fine or they do. It will kind of encourage them when they see Gay & Robinson. May G, 2410 K.H.P.R.C. Meeting Minutes Page 7 Chair: Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to address the Koloa Wastewater system? (None.) Have you reviewed the SHPD letter? In my particular, I believe there is fairly low probability in this first corridor of archeological. If anything you will be running into the historic. You are above the Koloa field system and not quite in it when you do this first corridor. And at this particular point I am not aware of anything exactly within this corridor that is of significance when you go makai yes. We are definitely hoping that you have the flexibility in the lines to go around lava tubes and sides so there is at least some flexibility. We don' t anticipate the nature of sites in the proximity of it as we do in the makai lands as we do in this particular one. At this point I think you know I think we can concur with SHPD in that they did require you to do some sort of NABS but obviously not as formal as the NABS (Historic American Building Survey) through digital photographs. And then yes unless we have any particular requirements. And then yes unless we have any particular requirements. Of course when you carne in here last time the discussion I think centered around it being on the National Historic Landmark and whether or not this particular facility would affect that. We are looking at a building that was built out in the 70s so it does not essentially meet the criteria in there keeping in mind that the Koloa Mill area is also commercial and has also been heavily impacted also. So at this particular point unless somebody has a different idea the nature of whether or not we should protect the landmark designation within this building and I think we can concur with the adaptive reuse of this building. You are keeping the exact same footprint of the building right here so I much of the, many of the original flags that we actually raised in the first meeting I think has been mitigated at this particular point. Commissioners normally we have like a twelve point list of recommendations but I don't think we will be doing it this time. Ms. Sheehan: Not Phase 1 ? Mr. Faye: Maybe later railroad berm and things like that. Chair: That we will take a closer look at but at this particular point you need to hook up Koloa into this facility and stop injecting the sewage underground. Commissioners anymore questions? (None.) Ms. Sheehan: Thank you for your presentation. Mr. Faye: I was going to say good job in the report all those details and I talked to some of the people that were at the community meetings and they were all in favor of it so that was good. Chair: So I take it at this particular point other than concurring with SHPD we have no specific recommendations further is that correct? Mr. Faye: It meets our criteria. We have no issues with it. No flags. Chair: Alright then at this particular point can I get a motion to incorporate our concurrence with SHPD . May b, 2010 K.H_P.R.C. Meeting Minutes Page & Ms. Sheehan: I so move. Ms. Aiu: Second. Chair: It' s been moved and seconded any further discussion? (None.) All in favor say aye. (Unanimous voice vote.) Any opposed? (None.) Thank you. SELECTION OF NEXT MEETING DATE AND AGENDA TOPICS The next KHPRC Meeting is scheduled on Thursday, June 3 , 2010. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 3 :36 p.m. eetfully Submitted, s S anlee U. Jimenez Secretary JUN 0 3 2090 Date: