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HomeMy WebLinkAbout201202231540257721. MEETING OF THE KAUAI COUNTY HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMISSION THURSDAY, MARCH 1, 2012 3:00 p.M. Lihu'e Civic Center, Moikeha Building Meeting Room 2A/2B 4444 Rice Street, Lrhu'e, Kauai AGENDA CALL TO ORDER APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA APPROVAL OF THE FEBRUARY 2, 2012 MEETING MINUTES A. ANNOUNCEMENTS AND GENERAL BUSINESS MATTERS B. COMMUNICATIONS (Nonei C. UNFINISHED BUSINESS (None) I3. NEW BUSINESS 1. Gay & Robinson, Inc TMK: 3- 2- 004:21, 41 & 63 Nawiliwili, Kauai Proposed demolition of sugar terminal facilities. 2. Kauai Museum TMK: 3 -6 -05:5 Lihu'e, Kaua'i Proposed restroom remodel and addition to comply with ADA standards. 3. Letter (2/23/12) from Michael Hunnemann, KAI Hawai'i representing the Department of Public Works, County of Kauai requesting to present design options for Opaekaa Bridge, Federal Aid Project No. BR- 0700(6). March 1, 2012 . K.H.P.R.C. Agenda Page 2 4. Letter (2/23/12) from Michael Hunnemann, KAI Hawaii representing the Department of Public Works, County of Kauai requesting to present design options for Puuopae Bridge, Federal Aid Project No. BR- 0700(59). 5. Letter (2/23/12) from Michael Hunnemann, KAI Hawai'i representing the Department of Public Works, County of Kauai requesting to present design options for Kapahi Bridge, Federal Aid Project No. BM700(53). 6, Certified Local Government (CLG) Program Project and Funding Investigative Committee Report and findings as established on February 2, 2012. E. SELECTION OF NEXT MEETING DATE AND AGENDA TOPICS (4/5/2012) F. ADJOURNMENT EXECUTIVE SESSION: The Commission may go into an executive session on an agenda item for one of the permitted purposes listed in Section 92 -5(a) Hawaii Revised Statutes ("H.R.S. "), without noticing the executive session on the agenda where the executive session was not anticipated in advance. HRS Section 924(a). The executive session may only be held, however, upon an affirmative vote of two-thirds of the members present, which must also be the majority of the members to which the board is entitled. HRS Section 924. The reason for holding the executive session shall be publicly announced. Note: Special accommodations and sign language interpreters are available upon request five (5) days prior to the meeting date, to the County Planning Department, 4444 Rice Street, Suite 473, Lihue, Hawaii 96766. Telephone: 241 40.50. KAUAI COUNTY HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMISSION Lihue Civic Center, Moikeha Building, Meeting Room 2A/2B MINUTES A regular meeting of.the Kauai County Historic Preservation Commission (KHPRC) was held on February 2, 2012 in the Lihue Civic Center, Moikeha Building, Meeting Room 2A /2B. The following Commissioners were present: David Helder, Chairperson, Danita Aiu, Vice Chairperson, Jane Gray, Pat Griffin, Kuuleialoha Santos, Patsy Sheehan, Molly Summers, and Randy Wichman. The following Commissioner was absent: None. SWEARING IN OF NEW AND RETURNING COMMISSION MEMBERS New commission member Jane Gray and returning commission member Danita Aiu were sworn in by County Clerk Ricky Watanabe. CALL TO ORDER Chairperson Helder called the meeting to order at 3:02 p.m. SELECTION OF CHAIRPERSON AND VICE CHAIRPERSON Commissioner Santos and Commissioner Griffin were selected as Chairperson and Vice Chairperson, respectively. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA The Agenda was approved as circulated. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES The December 1, 2011 Minutes were approved as circulated. February 2, 2012 K.H.P.R.C. Meeting Minutes Page 2 ANNOUNCEMENTS AND GENERAL BUSINESS MATTERS There were no Announcements and General Business Matters. COMMUNICATIONS There were no Communications. UNIFINISHED BUSINESS There was no Unfinished Business. NEW BUSINESS Re: Waimea Public Library Chair: New Business, Waimea Public Library do we have a presentation for that if it's neither of you two than probably not. Mr. Hironaka$ Yes, I think we had a miscommunication with the applicant. I did have some discussion with them and are kind of familiar with the project if you want me to go through it, I can go through this with the Commission. Chair, Sure. Mr. Hironaka: Okay. So this is the library in Waimea. Originally they wanted to install this photovoltaic system on the existing root itself but they found that the roof was not structurally sound to hold the weight of these panels. So they went back to the drawing board and they came up with this sort of like had to beef up the framing members of the roof in the area that they are putting the panels. So they are putting sort of like a roofing joist system laying the sheet metal which is quite similar to the existing roof that they had there. Then they are putting on this, like a, either it's going to be like an aluminum type of piping or metal type of piping frame that would be holding the PV panels. So I think these are elevations that you are looking at the building basically from the south, the west, the north, and the east elevations. So it's at the highest point of the structure is where they are putting the PV panels. Also, attached with the report is the review of the project and there are the comments from the State Historic Preservation Division that's dated October 26ti'. Chair: Do I hear any motion? Mr. Wichman: If I may ask is it absolutely necessary that they be here in order for us to move on this agenda item? February 2, 2012 K.H.P.R.C. Meeting Minutes Page 3 Mr. Hironaka: It depends. No not necessarily. Mr. Wichman: It depends on us. Chair: They don't have to be here if we don't want them here. It's self explanatory. We are happy with the explanation. Mr. Wichman: We can carry on internal discussion right now? Chair: Yes. Mr. Hironalca: Sure. Mr. Wichman: I think part of the motion could be of course that we concur on the SHPD letter although I am surprised with the little bits of hand writing. We can generally concur with the findings of SHPD in this letter. That is the first part of the motion. The second part was whether or not discussions came up within the actual construction. I know they tried to limit the height of the photovoltaic system. So they are already right there. As far as I am concerned I don't see any major flags coming up on this project. Chair: I don't either. I mean this is one of those instances, from my perspective, where the building is fifty years old but that doesn't lend in and of itself enough substance for preserving this. It's not like a battle house. It's kind of like more like early jail. You know what we could do to it. It's all linear and it's right in style with the rest of it. And I don't think that, you could probably do just about anything that you want to it and not really draw back from this building. That is just my point of view. So if there is anybody else who sees something that really trips them out? Ms. Santos: You can't really see it (inaudible). Chair: So it's a motion in one part to accept this and to receive this project and give it our whole hearted approval. Mr. Wichman: Then I would like to make the following motion that KHRPC concurs with the SHPD determination letter and that we wish the Waimea Library the very best. Chair: Second? Ms. Sheehan: Second, Chair: All those in favor? Mr. Wichman: Anybody in the audience? Chair: I am sorry, anybody in the audience? Would you like to speak on this? February 2, 2012 K.H.P.R.C. Meeting Minutes Page 4 Mr. Gushard: We are SHPD. You are concurring with our letter. (Laughter in the background). Chair: All in favor? (Unanimous voice vote). Hearing no opposition it's moved. Re: Certified Local Government (CLG) Program — Presentation on ideas and plans for the Historic inventory and CLG funding by Mike Gushard, Architectural Historian /CLG Program Coordinator, State Historic Preservation Division. Re: Certified Local Government (CLG) Program - Discussion to � scope task for an investigative committee to identify projects for CLG funding and the appointment of members to the investigative committee. Once formed and tasked completed, the investigative committee will present its findings to the Commission in a duly noticed meeting for decision - making. Chair: New Business Certified Local Government Program. Mr. Mike Gushard: How is everybody? (Fine.) Good that's what I like io hear. I am a little embarrassed. I am not sure it is good news or bad news but I don't have any kind of long formal presentation. I just wanted to say hi to everyone. My name is Mike Gushard. I am the CLG Coordinator for SHPD. Mr. Wichman: Alright good for you, new hire? Mr. Gushard: What was that? Mr. Wichman: Is that a new hire? Mr. Gushard: Three months old. I am thirty years old. Mr. Wichman: Cool you are the man. Mr. Gushard: I am letting you know that if you had questions about the CLG program I am here to answer them now. Chair: What's your phone number? Mr. Gushard: 808- 692 -8026. Chair: And email? Mr. Gushard: michael.i.gushard@hawaii.gov. In fact I can give you all cards. Mr. Wichman: You are working closely with Larry Oaks? February 2, 2012 K.H.P.R.C. Meeting Minutes Page 5 Mr. Gushard: No because Larry is not with us right now. Mr. Wichman: Right he is with the National Park Service. Mr. Gushard: Yes, he is in Texas but I worked with him for a couple weeks. He got us kind of up to speed on the CLG program. He got things kind of set up for me. Right now most of my time has been dealing with Maui because of the cultural resource manager there. Mr. Wichman: Of course you know what concerns us naturally is that at this point it's only Maui and this island. Over the decades we certainly (inaudible), Now we are in the discussion of essential procurement process now for the County and then the Pacific deadlines imposed by I guess this new system. Mr. Gushard: The deadline for application for the 2012 funds is March 30th. So there will be two months for 2012 funds. Then that deadline would repeat again in 2013 for the 2013 funds. Now it is very confusing. They are on two year cycles. So the 2012 funds 2012 to 2013, that's how long the project runs. Keeping that in the Federal and State years which aren't our years it's kind of confusing. Mr. Wichman: Can you tell us what the Maui commission has in mind. Mr. Gushard: Right now for 2012 Maui, Stanley who is their Cultural Resource Manager doesn't have anything planned that I know of We are wrapping up 2010 and he has 2011 projects which has kind of eclipsed the 2010. Mr. Wichman: We have been discussing for quite a while updating our building inventory and that is something that SHPD can concur with. Of course we need to move on nominating other properties and then there is the usual training for new commissioners. Mr. Gushard: Speaking of training. I have been trying to figure out exactly how to make this work with some other CLG coordinators around in different states to find a model for possibly sending one member of the commission to the national conference of historic commission conference which is going to be in June in Richmond. I would like to send someone from Kauai and someone from Maui just so you guys can have that interaction. Mr. Wichman: You can send the Chairs for that one. Mr. Gushard: I am still trying to figure out how that works. Different states does do it in different ways and each state has a different set of rules of how the funds can be disbursed and with Larry trying to figure out exactly how we can do that. My hope is to match whoever goes, their time. Mr. Wichman: One last question, are there any specific objectives that must be accomplished by this CLG program in 2012? February 2, 2012 K.H.P.R.C. Meeting Minutes Page 6 Mr. Gushard: No. Normally these things are tied into the statewide plan. So we would weigh the different applications we got by what are statewide plan says. So that kind of opens things up. Just the basic rules on the CLG program, essentially (inaudible). Ms. Sheehan: Does the County of Kaua'i have a proposal for these funds by the end of March? Mr. Wichman: Ricky Tsuchiya has written several already that are pending. I think if you took one of his right there and then gust updated it and sent that in. Ricky has drafted language already which reflects exactly what you are talking about, updating our inventory. Mr. Gushard: That's great if there is a framework already for that. That would take a lot (inaudible). Mr. Wichman: Those funds have been on hold now for about five years, six years, it's been a while since the County has actually receive CLG funds. Ms. Sheehan: So is that something the County can do by March 30th? Mr. Hironaka: Well that is something that I will discuss with our Director and let him know that this is, I am assuming, that is what this Commission wants us to do. So we will talk to the Director on that. Chair: I would like to request us to go into executive session. Ms. Aiu: After they leave? Chair: No I would like them to come back afterwards. I have some information that I would like to share with you and I would like to do it in executive session cause it's that kind of a matter. Mr. Wichman: Motion to go into executive session. Ms. Sheehan: Second. Chair: Thank you. Would you please excuse us, this will only be about five minutes. The Commission recessed to go into executive session at 3:20 pm. The. meeting was called back to order at 3:29 pm. Chair: The reason for the executive session was so we could consult with the board's attorney. So now we are back. Ms. Aiu: Well did you read this it says presentation. Mr. Gushard: I read that on my phone when I was on the plane and I was •like oh no. I thought maybe I should come up with something. We've had wall to wall meetings since we got here. February 2, 2012 KAT.R.C. Meeting Minutes Page 7 Ms. Aiu: Welcome aboard and at least now we have someone specifically to go to and so I am glad to hear that. And we have been trying to get some monies. I don't know we seem to be going round and round. As commissioners ourselves we can't just go after the money. We can't call someplace or can't fill out the form. It has to all go through Planning and thank you again Myles for working with me on that. Have we gotten anywhere? Mr. Hironaka: I was just talking with Mike and so he will be sending me the packet of information so that if we get the approval we will go ahead and send it in for the 2012 funding. Ms, Aiu: Ok so he will be sending you the form cause you didn't have that. Mr. Hironaka: So we can at least start filling those forms out. Ms. Aiu: Ok Myles on the December meeting we had asked for Mike to come because we had wanted to get his feeling about a couple of things. Was he not able to come today? Mr. Hironaka: I think today was just a miscommunication on our part. I have to apologize on his behalf, I think he did want to speak to the commission. We weren't aware, f wasn't aware of that and I think when we were preparing the agenda for the commission there was no plans or permits scheduled so we just decided to cancel the meeting. Not knowing there was this special business that he wanted to speak to you folks about so that we can do at a future meeting. Ms. Aiu: There is no future. This is February and March is right around the corner. Chair: Our issue is that since it is going through the Planning Department._ We can have all the desire in the world to get this thing going and to update our inventory and all of that but if the Planning Department doesn't put in the application for the funds it doesn't happen. So two things that I could think about that I would like to see happen is that you, since you are new and this is your kuleana, to coordinate with our Planning Department specifically to get the application for the funds in by the deadlines that they are appropriate to get in to. Who would be his contact person within the Planning Department about these deadlines and the timing? Mr. Hironaka: I would be, I guess, me. Chair: It would be you specifically? So could you provide Mike the contact information that he would need? Mr. Hironaka: I have already done that. Mr. Gushard: I apologize that you, the County, doesn't have the forms. I thought that was something that was taken care of before. (Inaudible). Chair: Well it's probably not just a matter of getting them the forms. It's a matter of keeping them abreast of where those forms should be at what point and getting ready to be turned in by certain deadlines so that we do interface well with Maui and we do get the funds to kind of do the projects that we would like to do. That's all we can recommend as a board and so that would February 2. 2012 K.H.P.R.C. Meeting Minutes Page 8 be our desire to see this interface happen so then it would be announced to us that we did receive the funds now what can we do with them. Let's go. You know we have projects in line. Mr. Hironaka: Well I think the request has to be very specific too right? It has to identify the projects. Mr. Gushard: Yes it has to identify the projects. Mr. Hironaka: It can't be something you want the money and then come up with the projects. Chair: No, no we have... Mr. Hironaka: No, no from what you were saying I thought that's what you were saying. Chair: Well we need to know that there are deadlines for the project and then it's told to us and then we have to identify what the projects are, we will be happy to do that. We have got a lot ways to do that. But if we don't even hear about it, sometimes from the Planning Department, we don't even hear about funds that have become available and we are not even notified of that. Mr. Hironaka: And in the past, maybe the communication may have gotten misplaced or something but in the past the State would always give us in advance a call for projects. So I didn't see that this time around. Mr. Gushard: There is, from now on, there is going to be an open line of communication. SHPD has staff now. I think there might have been a breakdown over the last few years. We have been going through some troubles that we are getting out of. So there shouldn't be a problem in the future. Chair: Well we look forward to working with you. That would be just great. Ms. Sheehan: Would you just give us a quick explanation, given that we really want to work on this inventory and given that we get everything in my the 301h of March, when would we hear and would the funds be available. I man say you accepted our application, what's the timetable? Mr. Gushard: So everything would have to be done by October 14. Ms. Sheehan: Everything? Mr. Gushard: Everything meaning the project would have to be done by that time. Ms. Sheehan: October 14? Mr. Gushard: Cause there is a two year... Ms. Sheehan: 2014? February 2, 2012 K,H.P.R.C, Meeting Minutes Page 9 Mr. Gushard: Yes. Ms. Sheehan: Ok. (Laughter in background.) I was going to say what's changed. (Laughter in background.) Mr. Gushard: And the process I am going through right now is Maui's ten projects were completed and we are getting them reimbursed. So there is not a lump sum that we drop. Ms. Sheehan: So we incur expenses and you reimburse them. Mr. Gushard: Yes and it is 60/40 match where we pay 60% of it and Kauai pays 40% of it. But that 40% can be eaten up with volunteer time. So we can pay for time. Ms. Sheehan: So one of the reasons why the County would hesitate would be because they have to come with this 60/40 match. They have to figure that in their budget. How they are going to come up with that? Mr. Wichman: To get around it because of staff time for example. So like for today if we added up the hours in the room it's quite a bit and compound it over the years. Ms. Sheehan: So with the fact that you are saying that Maui might not have any projects then we definitely have had this project for quite a while so what I am fuzzy at is Larry, at one point, said you might be competing with the other County. We are not competing with anybody, are we? Mr. Gushard: Larry really wants there to be competition. I think it would be great if there was competition. I think it would be really healthy. We are not there yet. Stanley on Maui pumps out projects and I think he has kind of met his limit right now for 2012. I have been trying to get Big Island on for 2013. So there might be competition for the 2013 funds. Ms. Sheehan: And are the funds getting larger or smaller? Mr. Gushard: General trend is they get slightly larger. Chair: Divide by three if Big Island comes on, rather than two. Ms. Sheehan: Or we get it all because Maui (inaudible). Mr. Gushard: Exactly, that's what it is and then (inaudible) it's just the projects that we get applications for. You know the way this works in other states where there are tons of CLGs. Like in Oregon there are almost a hundred because every little town can be one. There is a number, they get tons of applications and then they figure out which one exhausts the funds, the best way. So it's not necessarily cut in three in 2013 if Kauai got two projects and Big Island got one. But for 2012 this is kind of Kauai's golden moment in the sun where I think all of the funds will be available for you guys. February 2, 2012 K.H.P.R.C. Meeting Minutes Page 10 Ms. Sheehan: And that would be good to communicate with the County that this is our golden opportunity now because if we do have to compete with more than one. So if we get it and we start from 2012 and in 2014 and we still have not finished our inventory, can we go back and ask for the same thing to finish something? Mr. Gushard: Yes, but in the application it's kind of important to have a workable scope that you can say that you are going to complete it to this point and then apply and say this is what the project is. It is carrying this project on and then finish. Maui has a project'and this was all before me so I can't remember what it was exactly cause it was a multiyear project every year. It was a little bit every year. It's important that the initial application be what you can in that time. So we have that design. Ms. Aiu: Ross did you folks give a courtesy call to the Planning Department. Mr. Ross Stephenson: We met (inaudible). Mr. Wichman: DOT? (Laughter in the background.) Ms. Aiu: Well if you have time maybe you can stop in and pay a courtesy call to the Planning Director. Mr. Stephenson: Can I say something? I am Ross Stephenson. I didn't get to meet everybody. I am the keeper of the State Register of Historic Places and one thing I would really like to ask you to do is I really like the idea of an inventory. I think that is a wonderful thing. If you also have people who properties that you think are significant we would really like to add to our collection of properties on the State Register of Historic Places. I am really trying to emphasize two things on the register. One is not on Oahu properties because Oahu is basically (inaudible). And the other one is basically I would like to get a broader spectrum of a community listed on the register, Most of the properties on the register for lack of a better terminology are upper class haole properties and would like for example to get some wonderful projects going eventually if we have a statewide inventory of Japanese Buddhist temples and we are going to be going into the communities as a pilot project in Honoka`a on the Big Island which is a big collection of plantation style architecture. Hanapepe for example could be another one where we could get some of these little communities which are still relatively intact put on the State Register not only help get Federal tax credits and even residential property tax breaks. A list of cultural tourism properties cause that's the biggest segment of the tourist market internationally that's growing. Not to mention the fact that it's really cool to say that Matusmoto Shave Ice is in Haleiwa or something like that. So again if you friends who have properties that you think are eligible please contact me. Ms. Santos: I have a question. How do you get something that is already on the State Register on the National Register? February 2, 2012 K.H.P.R.C. Meeting Minutes Page 11 Mr. Stephenson: It is a separate register but what it is we use the same form the State does and we just update it and make sure that we fill in a couple extra criteria in terms of what the National Park Service is looking for. They want such things as USGS maps as part of the, manim kind of stuff. A lot of people misunderstand the National Register. What it is, it could be a property that is locally significant but it could be placed on the National Register. In other words it doesn't have to be Robert E. Lee's home. It could be again something like Matusmoto Shave Ice was significant in this particular town for sixty five years. That could still be listed on the State Register, National. Chair: Do you have a wish list? When you are describing the things that you would like to see have you gotten it all written out that could be forwarded on to groups here on Kauai? We might be able to facilitate doing that so that if they saw something on your list that they might have they can contact you. Mr. Stephenson: We do have some for example a (inaudible) on the Japanese Temples around Hawaii. Chair: No what I mean is a list of all of those kinds of things just enumerated one after another so that we could send that out and with your list and your contact information so that if somebody did have something that they thought might me significant and worthy of doing that they would contact you. If you have a letter like that, that we could forward. Mr. Stephenson: I thank you. I would be delighted to make a letter like that but I would like to emphasize the register is really supposed to be what the community would consider being significant. Not us. So if you have again a store in Hanapepe or something like that. Mr. Gushard; It might just be better to have a reminder. Mr. Wichman: We have a laundry list, if I may. The criteria have gone up. Now a professional historian needs to fill out the application. Now all the primary and secondary sources (inaudible). Also the State Historic Places Review Board meets how many times a year? Mr. Stephenson: Roughly three. Mr. Wichman: Three, the next one coming up for this review board? Mr. Stephenson: Probably March, Mr. Wichman: March. The Feds review the nominations in May or so. After it passes the State Historic Places Review Board then it goes up into the Federal. The Feds I think now meets once a year to review these properties. For example if we go for a National Historic Landmark Designation it would pass the State Review Board and then go in to say the May meeting. So the Feds would actually not approve it once it passes the State? Mr. Stephenson: I think there is a misconception. What happens is that we go ahead and let's say we have a property, let's say the Wilcox Beach House on the North Shore. Once it passes, first of February 2, 2012 K.H.P.R,C, Meeting Minutes Page 12 all it goes to State Register. I go ahead and proof it and things like I just mentioned, etc. and then I go ahead and present it to the State Historic Places Review Board they go ahead and vote on it with the panel of historians, etc. and they have the option of recommending that we forward to the National Register. Then it goes to a regional specialist. Ours for Hawai'i is Paul Sigmond and he goes ahead and if it meets all these little manini things as well as the general stuff then he goes ahead and posts it on the Federal Register as being placed on the National Register of Historic Places. Now if something is contentious then of course we have for example battle fields on a marine base that was attacked by the Japanese in 41. The Navy is not intrigued that putting this on the register then the community is. So then it would go to the keeper of the National Register to determine actual (inaudible). Mr. Wichman: We have a situation where there are more than fifty signatures required. Mr. Stephenson: It's a little more complicated because it's contested. Ms. Santos: So if something is already on the State Register can a person call you to try to get it on the National? Mr. Stephenson: Yes. Mr. Wichman: I think to be a little bit more specific this is a case where it was approved by the State but because of FFA involvement the Feds never took it into the, because of an FAA situation. Mr. Stephenson: What property are you talking about? Mr. Wichman: We are talking about the Hanapepe Salt Ponds. Now this definitely one of America's greatest treasures right and it should be on the Federal list but it never made it that because of the Burn's Airfield issue. Mr. Stephenson: When was this submitted? Mr. Wichman: I think that is what this question is about. Because of I believe FAA intervention it never made it into the Feds. How do we get around that or is there such a tkzing? Mr. Stephenson: I would be happy to talk about it. I left my phone number, why don't one of you call me and we can investigate it. I wasn't aware of this. Mr. Wichman: And then one more question. My understanding is that for example the County wants to put one of their properties on the register as a National Historic Landmark. A letter of determination from the Feds is required prior to even commencing to have... Mr. Stepheson: We go ahead and submit to Washington any last minute (inaudible) including significance which is a major part of it. February 2, 2012 K.H.P. R.C. Meeting Minutes Page 13 Mr. Wichman: Yes, which is a Federal determination prior to beginning the application. That's on their latest website. Mr. Gushard: I think that might be for their National Historic Landmark? Mr. Wichman: Yes and we are definitely going in for H L right? Mr. Gushard. Oh I see this is for the National Register right. Mr. Wichman: Yes, there is an actual site designation but the actual National Historic Landmark which is another classification and a larger one and one that is appropriate for several properties. Mr. Stephenson: Yes, for example Pearl Harbor (inaudible). Mr. Wichman: Yes, but an actual letter of determination to be significant as American history has to be sought prior to the commencing of the actual application itself Mr. Stephenson: I have not submitted for an NHL since I got on there but I would be very happy to look at the Salt Ponds or any other project that you folks want. You have my number so just call me. Mr. Wichman: If you could just stick around for a couple of minutes after the meeting. Ok thank you Mr. Chair, Chair: Thank you we really appreciate it and look forward to it. Mr. Gushard: It's nice to be here. Chair: Ok now you wanted to say something else about, we were going to go back to. Do you remember what it was? Ms. Aiu: We were going to have a P I G committee. Chair: That's right. Mr. Wichman: The P I G, the permitted interaction group was in order to put up the proposal for the CLG funding right? Ms. Aiu: Right. Mr. Wichman: At this point because we are under the deadline we are already in with the County to work a little closer with this next application. So perhaps a P I G may not be necessary. Chair: Or it might be more necessary that we do it and then we have somebody that we can assign to go when they are working on it. February 2, 2012 K.H.P.R.C. Meeting Minutes Page 14 Ms. Aiu: I said I would do it. The reason for the P I G was lots of times we didn't have a quorum so we didn't meet. When we talked with the attorneys we could have a P I G even if we didn't have a quorum we can have up to four. Chair: You can actually do with two. Ms. Aiu: And that was actually the idea. So just some of us can whoever can meet and then let the rest know. Ms. Santos: And it can be what Ricky already did. Mr. Wichman: And I know for several years but because of SHPD it was difficult and I saw the frustration from the County and justifiably so. I think we have one more crack at it at this point and we can still assign a P I G. Ms. Aiu: Yes, so I am going to move if you don't mind. So I move that we form a P I G committee to work on CLG grants and I volunteer to head that committee and to offer anyone who wants to come on the committee to come on the committee or to accept phone calls from me when I talk to Myles as we go though. Mr. Wichman: I will work on that P I G. So the both of us can do this. Ms. Santos: And I can, if you guys need me, I can. Chair: Do I have a second? Ms. Sheehan: Second. Chair: Anymore discussion? (None.) All in favor? (Unanimous voice vote.) Ok we now have a P I G committee headed by Danita Aiu. Participation on the committee is up to four people. The committee can meet at the Chair's discretion and the Chair can choose to contact whoever she would like to aid her. Mr. Wichman: And I think we will be able to disband the P I G in March 30t" essentially the deadline for the application. The duties and objectives of the P I G is terminated on March 30th. Chair: Or at least put to sleep. Mr. Wichman: Terminated, we would reconvene a new P I G as we go along. For single purpose only, the P I Gs. Mr. Hironaka: May I ask Michael a question? Chair: Sure. February 2. 2012 K.H.P.R.C. Meeting Minutes Page 15 Mr. Hironaka: Is there a possibility, I think you said the deadline is the 30th, is there a possibility that there could be an extension to that deadline. Mr. Gushard: Nothing is impossible. I can talk to the Federal person. I don't think that's anything that's anything that has been done in the past. We just got an extension which was complete unprecedented. Another issue and I am not sure if... Mr. Hironaka: Well this is to receive the grants, not to exceed the deadline to extend? Mr. Gushard: Yes this would be to apply. Is that what you are asking? Mr. Hironaka: Yes, Mr. Gushard: I can ask but, we at SHPD have to have things to them by a certain time. So that's a Federal deadline. Mr. Hironaka: Ok I see. Thank you. Ms. SUegusa: I'm sorry did you have discussion of the task or the scope of the P I G? Mr. Wichman: It's to work with County to come up with the CLG inventory and funding. So in other words when Myles goes ahead and takes a look at the application if he has any questions we are here to help Myles to broaden the scope say on the inventory and to define it a little more and which properties that we intend to try and push through for the National Historic Land Mark or for the Historic Sites Registry. Things like that we can give you all the suggestions for that which we will give you some good background language too. I think past budgets we can look at other, cause the County does this periodically. We should be doing it every five years. We haven't done it for ten years plus now. In the past the county had, through the procurement process, gotten or others in order to help with the inventory. Those budgets are still there right? I think we will be able to upgrade it to 2012 and then just reflect that you know so there shouldn't be too much of budgetary breakdown necessary. That should be all there. We are just updating some of the early ones you know. So it's not like we have to start from scratch on this thing right? And Then this particular one I think in order to go through the process we want to keep things simple and not overload the CLG application with too many details. Three things really: updating the inventory; the moving properties on the National Historic Register; and training. Ms. Aiu: So let's start with just filling out that form and getting it going. Myles do you think we should? Mr. Wichman: Hold up the board attorney is clarifying the position and the goals and objectives of the P I G. Are you good with the... Mr. Hironaka: May I talk to you specifically about the CLG funds? February 2, 2012 K.H.P.R.C. Meeting Minutes Page 16 Mr. Wichman: The Sunshine Law requires is that no two commissioners °at. anytime 24/7 can discuss this matter outside this thing. The P I G allows three commissioners to sit down and legally discuss this thing and to bring the findings before the commission. The specific duties of the P I G are to assist the County in developing the application for CLG funds. Does that make sense? Mr. Hironaka: May I ask, yes that's great. Can you consider or would the commission consider this committee assist the department also with the, let's say if we do the historic building inventory update is to help us with the scope of that? Chair: Yes that is exactly right. Mr. Hironaka: And that would be something, see the reason why I say that is that the funding it would probably be something more than likely that we would wanna. go out for consultant services and I am not sure I think Mike indicated that we had something like $50,000 available. I am not sure how far that $50,000 would go in the case of a consultant services contract. So then having the, defining the scope becomes kind of important. Chair: That's it exactly. Mr. Wichman: Of course the first objective is that ten years there have been houses that have reached the fifty year. Of course we understand just because it's over fifty doesn't mean it's historically important. So it's important to identify new properties that have come up in the last ten years that the County deemed eligible and that's what we are here for. Mr. Hironaka: Ok. Chair: We have taken care of CLG for the moment. 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T �.► h e t l OV� S e c R s wft O'K 6,6,161 55 �j AN � V< VrOA ,espe.4LTT� 1y A CCoe/AAo ka l �.�:e� �cfZol�lv�e� ,Q ��d��1�'►aR1 �� a�,93-);L A A HAWAII rSTRUCTURAL & FORENSIC ENGINEERS February 23, 2012 Michael Dahilig, Planning Director County of Kauayi Planning Department 4444 Rice Street, Suite 473 Uhuye, Hawaiyi 96766 Attention: Mr. Myles Hironaka W Ken K.14ayashida, P.E. Michael P. Hunnemann, P.E. L. Y}ti`a1'�' i9 Subject: KHPRC Meeting, March 1, 2012 Opaekaa Bridge, Federal Aid Project No. BR- 0700(60) Puuopae Bridge, Federal Aid Project No, BR- 0700(59) Kapahi Bridge, Federal Aid Project No. BR- 0700(53) Dear Mr. Dahilig, :1 f; KAI Hawaii, Inc. respectfully requests to be placed on the March 1, 2012 Kauai Historic Preservation Review Committee (KHPRC) meeting agenda for the three bridge projects listed above. We respectfully request that each bridge be assigned its own agenda item so as to avoid confusion in our discussions. The objective of the presentation is to provide the committee with the opportunity to review our design options and to voice their opinions and give suggestions. The presentation is proposed by the consultant team that is representing the Department of Public Works, County of Kauai. The County and the design team are intent on providing a safe bridge at each location and one that satisfies the needs and desires of the local community. This meeting will provide the design team with an opportunity to obtain valuable feedback from the review committee. We will be providing engineering sketches of various options for each bridge. It is our intention to gather input and ideas from the review panel on each option, and to provide other options that may be viable. Those in attendance at KHPRC will include representatives from: -2- Hist ?ric /Archaeological / Cultural Resdurces: Scientific Consulting Services (SCS) Historic Preservation Fuing & Associates Civil Engineer: Akinaka & Associates, LTD FEBRUARY 23, 2012 Thank you for the opportunity to present information about this project to KHPRC. Should you have any questions or require any additional information, please feel free to contact me. Sincerely, Michael Hunnemann KAI Hawaii, Inc. (808) 791 -3980 Cc: Kupasamy Venkatesan, Kauai County DPW n ,