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Minutes of Meeting
OPEN SESSION
Approved as circulated 1/26/15
Board/Committee:
CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION Meeting Date
November 24, 2014
Location
Mo'ikeha Building, Meeting Room 2A/213 Start of Meeting: 4:00 p.m.
End of Meeting: 4:44 p.m.
Present
Chair James Nishida; Vice Chair Jan TenBruggencate. Members: Ed Justus; Patrick Stack; Carol Suzawa
Also: Deputy County Attorney Adam Roversi; Boards & Commissions Office Staff. Support Clerk Barbara Davis; Administrator
Paula Morikami
Excused
Members: Mary Lou Barela; Joel Guy
Absent
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Call To Order
Chair Nishida called the meeting to order at 4:00
pm with 5 Commissioners present which
constitutes a quorum
Approval of
Regularpen Session Minutes of October 27, 2014
Mr. TenBruggencate moved to approve the
Minutes
minutes as circulated. Mr. Justus seconded the
motion. Motion carried 5:0
Business
CRC 2014-13 Review and discussion of the final results of the 2014
Charter Amendments
Mr. Justus asked to comment on observations heard from other people as
well as thoughts of his own. Someone pointed out the second ballot
question regarding publishing of summaries that perhaps it would have been
more honest if we had said we were changing it from publishing the entire
thing to publishing just the summaries and putting it online; we should look
at this in the future to be as clear as we possibly can. Mr. TenBruggencate
said he was not sure there was an honesty issue; you can assume from the
ballot question the amendment was about summaries as opposed to the
complete text.
Mr. Justus also said a lot of people asked him what happened to the voter
education like we did in 2012 such as Hoike. Mr. TenBruggencate said the
year before when he was the Chair he did talk about the amendments on the
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Mayor's show. Staff also said in 2012 there were multiple questions, which
were thought might be confusing so Mr. Stack and Mr. Guy explained the
Commission's amendments, along with Ms. Yukimura who explained the
Council amendments on the Mayor's show. Staff further explained a voter
education piece was done this year and distributed to libraries,
neighborhood centers, emailed to organizational groups, etc. Mr. Justus
thought taping the 2016 ballot questions for the Mayor's show would be
helpful. People also approached Mr. Justus about the Pros and Cons of
each of the amendments being presented. Mr. TenBruggencate said they
have had conversations about that and one of the issues is that it is often
housekeeping issues such as this year's amendments and you would have to
work hard to come up with a "Con" which was not contrived. There is no
particular "Con"; it is just should you do it or should you not do it so we
dispensed with that. (File note on Pros and Cons: during the taping in 2012
Mr. Stack also explained the Commission proposes amendments deemed
necessary or desirable so the thinking is why would we provide an opposing
Mr. TenBruggencate moved to receive the
reason that does not favor the amendment?)
communication. Mr. Stack seconded the motion.
Motion carried 5:0
CRC 2013-03 Review of Recommendations in Ramseyer form from legal
analyst Curtis Shiramizu on identifying and proposing non -substantive
corrections and revisions to the Kauai County Charter for Articles XXIV
through XXXII (On -goings
Continue to defer until Staff has completed their
review.
CRC 2014-05 Discussion and possible decision -making on whether a footnote is
required to clarify subsections B. and C. of Section 26.04. Status of Departments
and
Transfer of Funds Defer pending receipt of the Coqpy Attorne 's opinion)
Deferred
CRC 2014-06 Discussion on whether there is a need to define what a charter
amendment is
a. Add a preamble or an additional paragraph to section 1.01 (Defer
pendingreceipt eceipt of County Attorney's opinion as to whether the Preamble to the
Charter was adopted by the people in 1968 and why it does not show up in
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subsequent documents)
b. October 27 revision of proposal to Article XXIV by Commissioner
Justus clarif�g what constitutes a charter amendment
C. Request for Legal Review for Section 24.01, Initiation of Amendments
(Defer pending receipt of the County Attorney's Opinion)
d. Charter Amendment Petition Guidelines & Exhibits; Instructions for
Voter Amendments
Item b.: Mr. Justus stated that in place of the full packet on charter
amendment changes he is now presenting what would be the most
substantive of changes and would address the critical issue. The language
mirrors the language in the final court ruling of the 2004 `Ghana
amendment. To make it critically clear why it is important to have
something in the Charter that defines what a charter amendment is Mr.
Justus pointed out he has a copy from the appellate court that made that
final decision, and he then read excerpts from that document. What this
means according to our Charter is anything is a valid Charter amendment,
but only the courts have the power to decide its validity or invalidity. Had
there been a clause in the Charter that says it must relate to the form and
structure of County government, the most recent petition would not have
been able to be presented. That would be a way to match what the law says
with the Charter and avoid lawsuits.
Chair Nishida clarified that §24.04 would be an addition. To eliminate
confusion regarding charter created departments that were not initially
established by adoption of the charter, Mr. Justus said that portion could be
eliminated. Mr. TenBruggencate suggested adding additional language
from the court ruling saying "it is not a vehicle through which to adopt local
legislation" to avoid overriding the County Council.
Section 24.04 to read: Substance of Amendments. Any amendment to the
Mr. Justus moved to adopt the language. Mr.
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charter is limited in substance to amending the form or structure of county
TenBruggencate seconded the motion.
government. It is not a vehicle through which to adopt local legislation.
Motion carried 5:0
The revised proposed amendment will be sent for legal review.
Item d.: While Chair Nishida and Ms. Suzawa thought the information
given to petitioners was pretty thorough Mr. Justus questioned if the list of
definitions were established by the County Clerk's Office, or the County
Code because it is not in the Charter. Mr. TenBruggencate suggested the
County Clerk's Office, which runs the elections division, probably came up
with the explanations for terms that might not be clear in the fact sheet. Mr.
TenBruggencate further suggested that the identifiers for voters appear to be
the same as what is used by the State Elections Office. Mr. Justus
questioned if it would be beneficial for the Commission to examine a
potential charter amendment for clarifying the process for charter
amendment petitions. Mr. TenBruggencate did not think that was the
Commission's function and asked Mr. Justus what he thought was not
adequate. Mr. TenBruggencate said he did not want to be a solution
looking for a problem.
Mr. Justus pointed out that what happens after filing is not defined once
given the valid number of signatures. He stated there was no mention for
procedures after filing, supplementary petitions, or even withdrawal of
petitions. Mr. TenBruggencate said it is important to recognize what the
document is, and it is what is given to the petitioners so they understand
how to prepare a valid petition; it is not the document the County refers to
on how to process a petition. Mr. Justus noted there is nothing in the
Charter about timeliness, and how long it takes to make sure the signatures
are valid once the petition has been given to the Clerk's office. Mr.
TenBruggencate said the office has a set of guidelines and maybe that is
what the Commission should be asking for.
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Staff asked if the Commission would like to invite the County Clerk and the
Elections Officer to address these questions before considering making
changes. Ms. Suzawa agreed the Article on Initiatives and Referendums
has more instructions on filing whereby it appears there is not that much to
do to file a Charter amendment. It would be good to ask the County Clerk
how much is necessary to file under the Charter, and what may be needed to
match it with Referendums.
Chair Nishida thought the big reason for filing as a Charter amendment was
the difference with the percentage of signatures required. Ms. Suzawa
agreed that the percentages should be the same for Charter amendments and
Initiatives and Referendum. Mr. Justus added that even if the percentages
are the same, voters will try to go the Charter route as the requirements are
simpler. Chair Nishida said the Initiative and Referendum is more
involved in that it actually changes law whereby the Charter is more general
Chair Nishida requested an agenda item for the
in how the government functions.
next meeting in which Staff invites the County
Clerk and Elections Officer to discuss instructions
given to the public to initiate Charter amendments.
Announcements
Next Meeting: Monday, January 26, 2015, 4:00 p.m.
Adjournment
Mr. Justus moved to adjourn the meeting at 4:44
p.m. Mr. TenBruggencate seconded the motion.
Motion carried 5:0
Submitted by:
Barbara Davis, Support Clerk
Reviewed and Approved by:
James Nishida, Jr., Chair