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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2013-1-24 Open Space Commission Minutes PUBLIC ACCESS , OPEN SPACE & NATURAL RESOURCES PRESERVATION FUND COMMISSION REGULAR MINUTES January 24, 2013 A regular meeting of the Public Access, Open Space & Natural Resources Preservation Fund Commission of the County of Kauai was held in the Lihue Civic Center, Moikeha Building, in meeting room 2A/2B . The following Commissioners were present: Nathaniel Childs, Chairperson Theodore Blake Luke Evslin Joseph Figaroa Patrick Gegen John Lydgate Maurice Nakahara Absent and excused: Linda Dela Cruz 1 Vacancy The following staff members were present: Nam Sadora, Duke Nakamatsu, and Deputy County Attorney Ian Jung. CALL TO ORDER Chair Childs called the meeting to order at 1 : 10 p .m. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Commissioner Lydgate asked for clarification of agenda item G.2 . ; Discussion on use of resolutions to accommodate goals and objectives of the Commission. Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that prior to his staffing the Commission meetings, the now Planning Director advised the Commission that they could utilize a non-binding resolution to make a policy statement. There was discussion on whether or not the Commission would like to utilize that tool to either advocate or suggest things that should be done to facilitate achieving their goals. Ms. Sadora noted that at the last meeting, the Commission wanted to have communication forwarded to the Council regarding use of signage and maintenance of accesses. 1 VA2013 Master Files\Commissions\Open Space\Meetings\2013-1 -24 Minutes On the motion by Patrick Gegen and seconded by Joseph Figaroa to approve the agenda, the motion carried by unanimous voice vote. RECEIPT OF ITEMS FOR THE RECORD There were no items for the record. ANNOUNCEMENTS Chair Childs welcomed newly appointed Commissioner Theodore Blake. Commissioner Blake stated that he was born and raised in Koloa and moved to Tahiti in 1994. They started a non-profit organization, Malama Koloa, focused on historic preservation mainly on Hapa Road. Poipu was a thriving agricultural enterprise for 500 years. They grew wetland taro and supplied California with sweet potato in the 1850s and supplied the North in the Civil War with sugar. It is a microcosm of history in Hawaii. They were able to acquire the first scenic byway on Kauai through the Federal Highways Administration. They are moving toward balance between the developers and newcomers. Poipu is the economic engine of the tourist industry on Kauai with 26% of hotel rooms and vacation rentals, the highest occupancy rate, highest rate of pay, and the most real property taxes collected than anywhere on Kauai. Before the scenic byways, most people would say that Koloa was over developed. It ties into the Hawaii Tourist Authority that has earmarked heritage tourism for its strategic plan in the next 15 or 20 years . Commissioner Lydgate complemented Commissioner Blake on all the work he has done throughout the years to make Poipu one of the outstanding areas of the island. Commissioner Blake stated that they are thankful to have many resources in the area. The Commission received public testimony from Jay Streed. Mr. Streed announced that there is a coastal access path adjacent to the existing rifle range on the west side that has been mostly unused because people are unaware of it. It was fenced off about 3 years ago and there is a 10 foot wide easement from the entrance to the rifle range gate that leads to Kokole Point. It is a surf spot that breaks intermittently. It is frequented by fisherman when the surf is low. With existing erosion, most people are not able to access from second ditch onto the beach to Kokole Point. This access is an alternate route that he believes is a pedestrian access, not a vehicular access. There is no signage, no warning of dangerous ocean conditions, or any indication that it is a pedestrian access. He noted that it may be good that there is no signage off the highway, but there should be signage at the point of entry to the path. He noted that publications list it as a public access. 2 VA2013 Master Files\Commissions\Open Space\Meetings\2013-1 -24 Minutes Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that if the Commission is interested in making it an agenda item for discussion at the next meeting, he can try to research information. He questioned if the fence was put in by the Federal Government. Mr. Streed stated that years ago you could drive in and park, but someone was contracted to fence off the entire rifle range about three years ago . He noted that it is State property so it may be a DLNR issue. Deputy County Attorney Jung noted that Open Space can discuss the access, but it would have to be listed on the next agenda. On the motion by Patrick Gegen and seconded by Maurice Nakahara to list this item on an agenda so they can further investigate, the motion carried by unanimous roll call vote. Commissioner Figaroa questioned if Mr. Streed could provide photos when this item is on the agenda. Mr. Streed stated that he does not own a camera. Deputy County Attorney Jung noted that staff can provide GIS pictometry images . Mr. Streed stated that satellite images on Google Earth shows it distinctly. Commissioner Lydgate questioned Mr. Streed' s specific request of the Commission. Mr. Streed stated that he would like to know who is responsible for signage. Chair Childs stated that the item will be on the agenda for the next meeting. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES Regular meeting minutes of 1 /10/13 On the motion by Maurice Nakahara and seconded by John Lydgate to defer approval of the 1110113 meeting minutes to the next meeting, the motion carried by unanimous voice vote. UNFINISHED BUSINESS Review and approval of the Commission' s 2012 Report for the Mayor and Council ' s review including a list of accomplishments, challenges, future goals and objectives, and recommendations. 3 V:\2013 Master Files\Commissions\Open Space\Meetings\2013-1 -24 Minutes Commissioner Figaroa noted a typographical error to the second paragraph of the accomplishments section "people Kauai" should be "people of Kauai". Commissioner Blake questioned the access to Kukuiula Bay through the former Hoban property. He noted that it used to be an easement in the past. Deputy County Attorney Jung clarified that people used to utilize the drainage easement for access, but the thought is to acquire a public pedestrian beach access through the lot. The County has a drainage easement, which doesn' t necessarily mean there can be pedestrian access over it. Commissioner Blake noted that the owner wouldn't be able to do anything with the drainage easement. Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that is subject to litigation during condemnation. If the Commission would like more information, they could have a discussion in executive session. The idea would be to first attempt an acquisition through purchase. Commissioner Gegen questioned if the Commission is recommending that the Council utilize the fund to acquire the easement or to continue with the process to investigate the fair market value/negotiable price. Commissioner Figaroa considered utilizing the staff as also utilizing funds to explore different facets of acquiring the easement. Chair Childs suggested making recommendations such as opening better communication between the Council and the Commission, and not just recommendations for physical acquisitions. Commissioner Evslin stated that their discussion at the last meeting was whether or not to include any recommendations in the update . Chair Childs stated that they discussed either using the recommendations from the past report, or to recommend ideas. Commissioner Evslin agreed with Commissioner Gegen that the Commission is not ready to make recommendations until their biennial report. Commissioner Gegen stated that the recommendation for the access to Kukuiula Bay through the former Hoban property would come after the Deputy County Attorney works with the land owner and they come to some kind of decision. Commissioner Evslin suggested clarifying what the Commission is currently working on rather than making a recommendation for using the fund. 4 VA2013 Master Files\Commissions\Open Space\Meetings\2013-1 -24 Minutes Commissioner Gegen stated that with the passage of the new Resolution, the Commission is instituting the process and creating the path to get there. They are still on the path and their recommendation wouldn 't be made until they get to that point. The Piwai recommendation has been put on hold, along with the Kaneiolouma Heiau because they are waiting for more things. Commissioner Figaroa suggested stating that they have come up with a format for properties that have groups to champion them. Commissioner Gegen agreed that there should be some kind of acknowledgement because they have spent time on the previous recommendations, but this point, they are not recommending that the Council does anything. When further assistance is needed they will see how they can help. In the last report, they were recommendations . Chair Childs agreed that under accomplishments they could include that the statuses for Piwai and Kaneiolouma have been adjusted. Commissioner Blake noted that the Kaneiolouma heiau is already public property. Commissioner Figaroa clarified that the recommendation was to acquire the Nukumoi Surf Shop parcel which is the historical entrance to the heiau. Commissioner Gegen noted that the non-profit organization is continuing their work. Their long term plan is to acquire that parcel, but they are not ready at this point. Chair Childs noted that Piwai is in a similar situation. There was a large contingency with the motor cross group, but it is a large piece of land that requires a lot of money, so the Commission recommended following the Black Pot model. Commissioner Figaroa suggested noting that the Commission has clarified their role in partnerships with community organizations. Chair Childs noted that they can remove Commission vacancies from challenges. Commissioner Evslin noted that for 2012 it was a challenge. Commissioner Figaroa suggested that they list current projects instead of recommendations. Commissioner Evslin suggested priority projects. Commissioner Gegen questioned the access to Kukuiula Bay, the Resolution for Papaa, access to Kauapea, and Salt Pond. 5 VA2013 Master Files\Commissions\Open Space\Meetings\2013-1 -24 Minutes Commissioner Figaroa stated that even though they have their objectives and future goals, the Council will probably want to hear about the projects and what staff has been working on. He suggested eliminating the recommendations section, and including maintaining future goals and current projects. Chair Childs started that he would prefer to keep objectives such as better communication with the public and the Council. Deputy County Attorney Jung noted that the passage of Ordinance 925 establishes the four points to address in the status report. Recommendations should be included and they could indicate that it is pending more action on goals and objectives. Commissioner Gegen stated that they are not recommending that the Council does anything right now. If they leave the recommendations section in the update, they could state that the Commission anticipates recommendations in the following report. The current recommendation is to continue to support the Commission. Commissioner Lydgate questioned the Council ' s intent and what they want from the update. Deputy County Attorney Jung noted that this is the Commission' s first update . Commissioner Gegen stated that the Commission can establish the update according to how the they feel it should be. Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that the new Ordinance lines out the four prongs. How the Commission addresses them is up to the Commission. Commissioner Evslin suggested an explanation as to why they are not providing recommendations for acquisitions this time, due to the expanded scope. The rest of the report looks good. Commissioner Gegen suggested due to the passage of Ordinance 925 they are not making immediate recommendations but will be coming forward with recommendations as they go through the process. Commissioner Blake stated that the Commission should utilize traditional place names. If people understood the meanings of the names like the beach in Wailua, there would be respect and dignity to the host culture and they would provide a sense of place. There are meanings in the old names because the ancestors observed a lot. Chair Childs suggested including the names in parenthesis because his generation is familiar with the English names . He would love to include the Hawaiian names. 6 VA2013 Master Files\Commissions\Open Space\Meetings\2013-1 -24 Minutes Commissioner Blake suggested using the Hawaiian names with the English names in parenthesis . Commissioner Figaroa requested that Commissioner Blake assist the Commission with Hawaiian names . Commissioner Blake stated that he would help as much as he can and there are ways that the names can be researched. Ms. Sadora stated that the Commission in the past suggested use of Hawaiian names when Puna Kalama Dawson was a Commissioner. The reason it was not included was because there was no staff or anyone in the County that had proper knowledge without them being misstated. It is a great idea, but because of the lack of resources to ensure proper usage, the Commission decided not to use the Hawaiian names including diacritical marks. Commissioner Blake questioned if the information could be provided. Ms. Sadora stated that wherever the information is provided, the Commission will have to be able to answer to it. The former Kupuna felt that she did not want the Commission to be in a position to defend how the name is used. Chair Childs clarified that if they chose to use the Hawaiian names they will be obligated to cite where they obtained the information. Commissioner Evslin stated that there is resource, ulukau. org, that was established by U.H. with place names and genealogies on their site. He felt that it is a pretty official resource that is being constantly updated. Commissioner Blake stated that he would not consider the University of Hawaii to be the experts . He would go to the people from the Ahupuaa. The proper names will come from the Kupuna in that area. Chair Childs suggested that Commissioner Blake obtain the proper Hawaiian names . Commissioner Blake stated that he would be more than happy to do that. Commissioner Figaroa requested adding open and continuous discussion and communication from between Council and the Commission. Deputy County Attorney Jung suggested the following wording under recommendations : "Due to the passage of Ordinance 925 and the expanded role of the Commission we are engaged in identifying properties for acquisition and will be submitting recommendations in the biennial report". 7 VA2013 Master Files\Commissions\Open Space\Meetings\2013-1 -24 Minutes Commissioner Figaroa requested that Deputy County Attorney Jung suggest wording for accomplishments where the Commission has clarified their role with the community partnerships with regard to Piwai and Kaneiolouma. Chair Childs felt that Commissioner Blake' s recommendation of utilizing Hawaiian place names would be for the Commission going forward, when they have the correct names. They will give it a try. He questioned if the new Commissioner should be included in the list of Commissioners . Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that the new Commissioner has not yet been officially appointed and sworn in. On the motion by Joseph Figaroa and seconded by Theodore Blake to approve the Commission's 2012 Status Report to the Kauai County Council, the motion carried by unanimous voice vote. Status on acquisition plan for a portion of TMK (4) 2-6-003 : 017 to obtain a pedestrian public beach access easement to Kukuiula Bay through the former Hoban property Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that he has engaged the land owner' s counsel from Oahu and they will have more discussions . He emailed the appraisal and will sit with them and start looking at the next steps . If they file for condemnation, there will still be several steps to follow including a Resolution from Council. He noted that the appraised value has dropped since 2007 . NEW BUSINESS Discussion on acquisition of land to expand Salt Pond Beach Park. Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that there was an executive order on December 20, 1950 for a 4 acre piece that lent use from the State to the County for Salt Pond Beach Park. The salt pans are under the jurisdiction of the State. The areas to the north and west are owned by the State with a small parcel owned by the Robinson family. Surrounding the entirety of the beach park is State property. The northern portion is under the control of Agricultural Development Corporation. The eastern portion is under the control of the Department of Transportation including the salt pans. In 2004 there was a push by then Mayor Baptiste to acquire 133 acres including the salt pans under an executive order, but he did not think it was ever signed. The northern portion would need to be acquired from the State. Going east to provide a buffer for the salt pans would also be the State under DOT, so it would be intra-governmental conveyances. Commissioner Evslin questioned executive orders . 8 VA2013 Master Files\Commissions\Open Space\Meetings\2013-1 -24 Minutes Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that when lands are under the jurisdiction of the State, an executive order is like a license that allows use of the property under specific terms. Commissioner Evslin questioned if an executive order could be pursued again. Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that the State may not be conveying property because of the seeded lands issue, but an executive order for use might be an option. Commissioner Figaroa questioned the controversial parking lot on the beach side. Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that under the tax maps that area is under the State DOT including the salt pans to Puolu Point. Commissioner Blake questioned the worst that could happen if the PLDC is not repealed. Deputy County Attorney stated that it would be up to the discretion of the five member board. It is a State question. Commissioner Lydgate expressed frustration that the County hasn 't provided information on a Master Plan. The State has been good about releasing lands to the County for recreational purposes . We need a designated camping area and expansion of Salt Pond Beach Park. He recommended that the County ask the State to transfer a couple of acres for recreational camping purposes . Chair Childs stated that they can request the Master Plan, Commissioner Figaroa noted that there is no updated Master Plan for that area. Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that expansion of Salt Pond was not included in the Master Plan. Commissioner Lydgate stated that the County needs to deal with this issue. The Commission can't do it if the County is not on the same page. Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that they need to not qualify it as prioritization. Commissioner Lydgate stated that he thinks it is a very important priority. Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that he the decision makers determine the priorities when they do the studies. Ms. Sadora stated that the Parks and Recreation planner who is no longer with the County started preliminary public meetings to organize the Parks Master Plan. They were in the preliminary stages and they had established a group, but that is as far as it has gone . 9 VA2013 Master Files\Commissions\Open Space\Meetings\2013-1 -24 Minutes Commissioner Lydgate noted that during the west side field trip, the caretaker at Salt Pond Beach Park expressed frustration that nobody seems to know what was going on and the people want information. He stated that the Commission can only push and dissuade, but they can't really dictate. Commissioner Gegen requested that the Director or Deputy Director of Parks & Recreation attend the next meeting so the Commission can inform them that it is a high priority on the list and would like to work with them on what makes sense and what the County is willing to take on. Chair Childs requested that if Commissioners need to leave the meeting early, that they should announce it under announcements at the beginning of the meeting rather than 5 minutes before they have to leave . Commissioner Gegen apologized that he had to leave the meeting shortly. Deputy County Attorney Jung suggested deferral to the next meeting and he will see if the Director of Parks and Recreation will be available to attend on February 14. Commissioner Gegen noted that he will not be present at the February 14 meeting. UNFINISHED BUSINESS (Continued) Update on vacant commission positions Ms. Sadora noted that Ms . Dorothea Hayashi was interviewed at the last Council meeting for the last vacancy on the Commission and they should know by next week when she will be able to start. Chair Childs questioned the interview process at Council. Commissioner Blake stated the Council asked him to share what he had done in the last few years . Ms. Sadora stated that they also asked what expertise could be brought to the table. Review and discussion on past recommendations and prioritization of the Commission' s work plan/timeline of events and activities through 2013 including_ • Criteria spreadsheet for recommendations list (2013 report) Ms. Sadora stated that she removed the weighted section from the spreadsheet. It will be based on the Commission ' s tallies . 10 VA2013 Master Files\Commissions\Open Space\Meetings\2013-1 -24 Minutes Chair Childs suggested leaving this item on the agenda for future discussion. Discussion on updatin the he Open Space Commission' s webpage. Staff distributed printed copies of the webpage. Chair Childs requested that Commissioners familiarize themselves with the webpage and forward any ideas . Commissioner Figaroa stated that he would like to see all of the Commissioners ' names on the webpage. He also suggested that the new Ordinances and Bills that have been passed be updated onto the web page. Chair Childs stated that they can include the information from their update to Council. He would like public input to be more prominent on the County' s main page. Ms. Sadora noted that the surveys were online during the survey period on both the County web page and the Open Space page. Chair Childs questioned if the survey could appear on the web page all year. Ms. Sadora stated that changes made to the webpage will be subject to approval so she would prefer to make one update all at once, then they can see what kind of modifications need to be made from the input they receive. Chair Childs suggested using the update report as a guideline listing the accomplishments, challenges, future goals and objectives. He requested looking into a comments section either in forum format or by email that is sent directly to staff. Commissioner Evslin suggested that members of the public could make a request for agenda items to be listed via email, rather than having to drive in to request the item be placed on a future agenda and then drive back again. Chair Childs stated that they could include a statement that ideas for future meetings can be emailed. Chair Childs requested that an email address be included on the web page. Commissioner Lydgate questioned the sense of criticism that is in the news regarding the bike path. He referenced points 7 & 8 in the mandate about improving public access and enjoyment of public land and stated that when they built the bike path, they had public access that was never there before. Without the path, there wouldn't be the facilities or ADA access. However, some members of the public state that the path is wrong and is a waste of time . He stated that perhaps people need to be educated that it is not just a path for bikes but is a lot more. People need to exercise and need to get out of their cars . 11 VA2013 Master Files\Commissions\Open Space\Meetings\2013-1 -24 Minutes Commissioner Figaroa stated that he was invited to KCCR radio for an open forum. There is a minority that doesn 't like the path, but the majority seems to like it. When he gave his opinion that he enjoys recreational use, there was a lot of support. A lot of people support the Commission and feel that it is a benefit for the community. Commissioner Lydgate noted Commissioner Blake ' s concern that many people feel that the path at Wailua is not appropriate. He questioned what the best way of negotiation would be on the sensitive issue as opposed to saying they can't have it. The Sierra Club is adamantly against the path in Wailua. Commissioner Blake clarified that he was not against the bike path, and he is definitely a proponent. It is just in the wrong place. Chair Childs noted that the agenda item is discussion on the web page. Commissioner Blake stated that it is most difficult to get the public involved. He attended Planning Commission hearings that lasted from 9 : 30 a.m. to 10 : 30 p.m. Not everyone is willing to do that. He suggested that they put their minds together to figure out a way to encourage more public participation. Chair Childs stated that the Commission has tried every way they could think of to get the public involved with minimal results. There are a few active people and it is usually the same crowd. They have been trying to find other ways . Commissioner Blake questioned if there is anything they could offer for incentives . Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that he has never explored that issue, but he could. Commissioner Blake stated that is the only thing that seems to motivate people. Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that they could probably offer refreshments, but he did not know about something like a drawing. Chair Childs welcomed any ideas for stimulating public interest, and stated that they will be looking at their recommendations in 2013 and the public input will be a huge part of it. Commissioner Evslin asked for clarification that the Commission is not able to have a Facebook page because it would require Administrative approval. Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that it would require approval, but the Planning Department has been exploring the possibility of a Facebook page. Some of the attorneys will be attending a social media and law workshop in the next couple of weeks. Commissioner Evslin noted that there was a long Sunshine Law discussion at Council. 12 VA2013 Master Files\Commissions\Open Space\Meetings\2013-1 -24 Minutes Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that the serial communication issue needs to be addressed, even through the use of social media. Once a policy is formalized he will forward a copy to the Commission. Commissioner Blake questioned the possibility of private contributions to stimulate public participation. Deputy County Attorney Jung noted that whenever the County receives a gift, it needs to be approved by the Council to be received. He would need to look into it. Chair Childs stated that Twitter is also great for blasting out short updates . He requested leaving this agenda item for future discussion. He requested the timeline on updating the webpage using the update report as a guideline . Ms. Sadora stated that she can start working on it. COMMISSION EDUCATION Status update regarding_upcoming_public access workshop . Chair Childs stated that the workshop would involve representatives from various organizations to help educate the Commission on the public access process and their purview. Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that the Commission wanted information on issues regarding access through subdivision or SMA processes, conditions or exactions, Native Hawaiian traditional and customary gathering rights, Na Ala Hele trail system, and representatives from large land owners. Kawika from Na Ala Hele is willing to participate. David Franco regarding Native Hawaiian rights is willing, but the Commission would need to cover airfare. Staff Planner Dale Cua would be willing to discuss entitlements and how people can be subject to dedication of easement. Then in terms of liability to large land owners, Tom Shigemoto is willing to speak. It was difficult to coordinate all of the various speakers, so they may have to have one speaker at a time rather than a panel. Commissioner Blake stated that it would be a good idea to have them separately because it may be easier to speak when there aren' t other speakers who have equal time. Chair Childs agreed that separate dates are fine. He questioned the airfare. Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that he thinks there is enough to cover airfare. He will outline a schedule. He suggested Dale Cua present at the February 28 meeting regarding exactions through the SMA and subdivision ordinance 777 . He will target March 14 for Kawika from Na Ala Hele since he requires a month ' s notice, Tom Shigemoto for March 28 , and David Franco from Native Hawaiian Legal Corp for April I lth. He noted that Mr. Franco may be on 13 VA2013 Master Files\Commissions\Open Space\Meetings\2013-1 -24 Minutes island for another issue, but if he is unable to attend, he would send someone else from his office. The Commission questioned if Mr. Graham would be interested in speaking to the Commission. Mr. Graham stated that he will work with Deputy County Attorney Jung, NEXT MEETING DATE AND AGENDA TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION Chair Childs noted that funding sources will be discussed at the next meeting as well as the webpage, and the criteria spreadsheet. Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that he could try to get Jennifer Luck from the Hawaiian Islands Public Land Trust who would be the most knowledgeable to discuss alternative funding sources . Commissioner Lydgate noted that they requested the Director or Deputy Director speak from Parks & Recreation to speak to the Commission regarding Salt Pond at the next meeting. Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that he will see if they are available. Chair Childs felt that they would have enough time for both the Director of Parks & Recreation and Jennifer Luck. Chair Childs stated that they will also have a discussion regarding the Kekaha access. Commissioner Blake stated that a lot of accesses have been overgrown and inaccessible and that the County has difficulty cutting back Guinea grass along Molohia Road. He suggested that the Commission look into encouraging organizations in the area to take charge of certain projects. Deputy County Attorney Jung noted that there is a switchback trail that goes up to the School behind the Fire Station in Waimea. They have done rights of entry agreements with each volunteer executing a waiver. The only problem is that the County requires insurance and many non-profit organizations don't carry insurance. Chair Childs stated that he Commission discussed the idea of Resolutions where the Commission can communicate their ideas to the Council . One idea was for the Boy Scouts to help clear the trail at Larson' s Beach. Commissioner Blake questioned if the County can accept the liability. 14 VA2013 Master Files\Commissions\Open Space\Meetings\2013-1 -24 Minutes Deputy County Attorney Jung noted that only the County Council can waive liability and it would require Council action via Resolution and recognition of the risk. Commissioner Blake questioned if the County' s insurance could cover specific projects. Deputy County Attorney Jung stated that Deputy County Attorney Esaki handles all of the insurance issues . Commissioner Blake requested a follow-up on the next agenda. If the community is involved, there is more public access use and it may be one way to get more people aware of the website and surveys. Many people don't know where the accesses are especially when they are covered up. ADJOURNMENT Chair Childs adjourned the meeting at 3 : 14 p.m. Respectfully submitted by: Duke Nakamatsu, Support Clerk 15 VA2013 Master Files\Commissions\Open Space\Meetings\2013-1 -24 Minutes