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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCivil Defense FY2013-2014 DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET REVIEWS 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 1 The departmental budget call-backs reconvened on April 19, 2013 at 11:34 a.m., and proceeded as follows: Civil Defense Agency Honorable Tim Bynum (present at 11:49 a.m.) Honorable Gary L. Hooser Honorable Nadine Nakamura Honorable Mel Rapozo Honorable JoAnn A. Yukimura (present at 11:36 a.m.) Honorable Jay Furfaro, Council Chair (excused at 12:22 p.m.) Excused: Honorable Ross Kagawa Chair Furfaro: We are going to start. Ted, you are going to make the presentation? We have enough chairs if you want to have members of your staff to come up and a shared microphone. There being no objections, the rules were suspended. THEODORE A. DALIGDIG III, Civil Defense Manager: Yes, Mr. Chair, I will do a PowerPoint presentation and I would like to call for my staff, Operations Officer, Elton, soon to be our Communications Officer, David, if you could come up? Chelsie, you are welcome to come up if you want. If not, then you can remain back there. Chair Furfaro: Hey, how are you, David? Ted, it is all yours. We can start with the four (4) members we have. Mr. Daligdig: Members of the Council, I have prepared a PowerPoint briefly and what I would like to do right now it just give you an overview on how we are going to conduct the briefing. Basically, I will be giving the highlights of the Department and at which time I will be followed by members of the staff who will give the particulars of each area. Then we will be happy to answer any questions that you may have. Again, introducing myself, I am Ted Daligdig, the Civil Defense Manager and to my right is Elton Ushio, and to my extreme right is David Miyazaki who will become part of our staff come July. I would like to point out our mission because our mission has changed over the past year. It includes the collaborative effort from us and our Administration. Let me read this because I think it is important. It is to protect the lives and property of Kaua`i by coordinating efforts among Agencies at all levels of government and the public sector, to prepare for, respond to, and recover from emergencies, hazards, and disaster events. On this slide, I have the responsibilities of the Department. It includes three (3) goals that I would like to go over and each goal has objectives that will help us meet the goals of the Department. In goal number one, we plan to increase the public awareness regarding emergency preparedness and Civil Defense program initiatives. As can you see there are three (3) important objectives under goal number one. It is to provide a minimum of three (3) outreach/educational activities per quarter. This is to schools, external government 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 2 Agencies, and community based organizations. Objective number two, this is something new that we would like to embark on. It is to produce and publish at least one (1) printed article or educational piece, brochure, literature relating to emergencies for Civil Defense initiatives. Objective number three, perform at least one (1) local television, radio, or web based media broadcast per quarter relating to emergency preparedness of the Civil Defense. We have pretty much done this. But what you see up there is an increase of what we are doing. In goal number two, improve emergency operations efficiencies. We have three (3) objectives to help us achieve this goal. Objective number one (1) is to coordinate and conduct least three (3) stakeholder meetings per quarter with primary partner entities in order to increase emergency operations familiarity and identify areas of improvement. I would like to highlight the last part, identify areas of improvement. By talking to our partners/stakeholders, we will be able to develop a list of what we think or believe will be very important areas of improvement for us and them of course. But a lot will have to do with how we conduct business in Civil Defense. Objective number two, perform updates to the Tsunami evacuation maps and complete the Tsunami signage/evacuation route project. I will not go into too much detail with this because I have my Emergency Operations Officer who will talk about the details of this project. Objective_ number three, perform a governmental and private sector critical resource/equipment assessment and develop associated Memorandums of Agreements (MOA). As you all know, this is part of preparation. It is very important as we enter into MOAs with different entities or organizations so that when we have to respond, we have agreements already in place that will make us be able to react quicker for the safety of our population. Successes and achievements. Excuse me, I am sorry. I went one (1) slide ahead. Our goals and objectives. Goal number three, enhance the readiness of emergency responders via a comprehensive training and exercise program. This will be support by objective number one, achieve by the end of Fiscal Year 2014, a ninety percent (90%) completion rate of Incident Command Systems (ICS) and the National Incident Management System (NIMS). I will be using a lot of acronyms throughout the presentation and I had hoped to spell out what they mean so that you can all understand. But in this objective number one. Initial incident command system. I will be using a lot of acronyms throughout the presentation and I hope to spell out so you can understand. But in this objective number one, we are relying heavily on individuals to complete online courses of non-Civil Defense Emergency Operations Center positions. What have I done was that we have looked at our call list that we has as a start and those are the people that come out to our activations. But I want them to be familiar with the Incident Command System especially so that they understand what is happening in the field and they have a better awareness of their positions. Objective number two, coordinate and host a minimum of at least two (2) Department Homeland Security (DHS) approved management/supervisory level courses for the fiscal year with emphasis on Incident Command Systems. This is more based towards the increased awareness of our Department Heads so that they can understand really what their function is in an Incident Command System or partial or full activation of the Emergency Operating Center (EOC). This is very important because can you cannot report to Emergency Operations Center and hope you can learn and you will learn. But you have to know your job before an emergency arises. Objective number three, 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 3 conduct a minimum of one (1) Homeland Security Exercise and Evaluation Program (HSEEP) per quarter for emergency management and/or first responder entities. I will not go into detail because my Operations Officer will talk about these more as we go along This slide it kind of points out in general terms some of the successes we had in past Y ear and also highlights some of the achievements and major events during the past year. Number one you can see that we had outreach programs. We went as part of the Mayor's Holo Holo community outreach programs to talk with various communities around the island. In addition to that, we continued outreach by meeting with various community organizations one-on-one. We talked about the specifics of their areas. Of course, schools, we always go and obtain their evacuation drills and then give them feedback on what we saw good or bad, the schools over our entire island. Improve emergency operations. The first bullet is Visitor Industry emergency operation and preparedness briefings. I think this is a very important part of what we do. We have to worry about our visitors and what better way to worry about them and work in supporting them is to work through the Visitor Industry. The Operations Officer will talk more about that when his turn comes up. Interoperability/redundant communications enhancements. Unlike Hurricane Iniki, what I see in interoperability and redundant communication is mind boggling to say the least. You have so much redundant communications now that it makes my job as a Civil Defense Manager much easier to communicate with the rest of the world, the State. We had had improvement in our siren test performance. We have had a dramatic improvement from previous tests to current testing phases. Training and exercise programs. We conduct a Weapons of Mass Destruction, supported by the Civil Support Team of the Hawai`i Army National Guard. We have had Statewide hurricane exercises mainly. The big one is called Makani Pahili and that is a Statewide exercise that has participants from the entire State and we work with catastrophic type event, usually an hurricane that will hits the entire island chain. We have had Incident Command Systems where 300 and 400 level courses were brought to Kauai. These are residual courses whereby people come to get trained in Incident Command System, but they cannot do this online. It has to be done through a residential course. We have had that. Major events in EOC activations. As you all know we have the Po`ipu fire in August of 2011. We have flash flood warnings that is pretty normal this time of year, although this year has been a good year, knock on wood. We have had a Presidential Disaster Declaration in which some of the Government Agencies especially, got reimbursed for damages that they sustained. Most recently the Hikimoe Ridge Koke`e fire. Upcoming initiatives. These are important because these drive the train of what we do. Later on, Mark Marshall will come up and talk about the first bullet, update on the tsunami evacuation mapping for the island and utilizing that data to put into place an evacuation route and signage standardization project, which is bullet number two. I am working with our State Representative and Senator so locate an areas for a holding area above the Kekaha and Waimea communities. I am also working with the Hanalei Neighborhood Association in designating holding areas that can be used with short notice tsunami. This chart is a graphic presentation of our operating budget last year. I like pictures so I had the staff come up with these pictures and if we have questions later on, I have one 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 4 (1) staff member that can talk to you about the details of each of these areas of the pie chart. This is what the 2014 Operating Budget looks like and the graphical representation of a pie chart. This chart represents the differences between the last fiscal year and the upcoming fiscal year. You may see a huge increase in some areas, that is because come July 1, we will be picking up additional position which carries over a whole lot of responsibility and cost to operate that position. The next chart is again a graphic representation of the numbers that you just saw in the pie chart. I have a staff that is very akamai in what they do. Although, it is a small staff, they do a lot of work and I am happy to say that I welcome our Telecommunications Officer when he comes to us in July. We have no vacant positions and we are not hiring anybody new, we just do not have a position. We are researching the possibility of utilizing college interns to augment our staffing and that is in the infant stages right now. We can talk about that later on. On our staff is the one (1) Federally funded position and she is the Grant Coordinator, beautiful young lady who is known as Chelsie Sakai, today. But on the bottom is all the people that we have or will have. The bottom also shows the order of the briefing. At this time I would like to call upon my Operations Officer, Elton Oshiro, to talk about operations. Mr. Hooser: I have a question. Chair Furfaro: Go ahead. Mr. Hooser: The order of brief, what does that mean? Mr. Daligdig: It means that that is the order that they will come up to give their presentation. It does not mean the order of importance, they are all important. ELTON OSHIRO, Plans and Operation Officer: My portion, Ted asked me to talk about some of our efforts in the area of training and exercises. What we do is that we participate in the State's Annual Training Exercise Planning Workshop and we try to do similar prioritization on-island. So, for the upcoming year, these are the areas that we want to be focusing our efforts on. They fall into terms called core capabilities identified by the Department of Homeland Security. As you can see up there, our operation coordination, we work with a lot of Agencies so we want to be strong in that area. Operationally Communications means primary comes as well as redundant backup systems and interoperable systems which David can go into more detail later. But that is basically between different Agencies with different communication systems. Three is, planning efforts. Four are ongoing and evolving public information and warning systems. Five, community resilience. Perhaps the most familiar of these to you would be the Community Emergency Response Team (CERT) program. Six, mass care services, feeding, sheltering. Seven, are critical transportation. It could be for multiple purposes, the public, medical j reasons or transportation of critical resources. Finally, a situational assessment so we have a better idea of what is going on in that event. Training exercise priorities activities list. As far as trainings, we have some funding that we can use for it. At times we are able to secure providers who have previous contracts with DHS. So, they provide training free of charge or at minimal costs us so we try to bring in course having to do with Incident Management System or Incident Commands Systems. The 300 and 400 courses which Ted 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 5 mentioned earlier are more management level. They are multi-day courses that you cannot take online like the introductory classes. We like to have our supervisory level, first responders, and people who are to report to the EOC during activation take those courses. The forms that you see up there, forms just refers to the common forms used within the Incident Command, Incident Management framework. For those not familiar with NIMS or ICS, it on or originated as a means of managing, overseeing, and coordinating operations used by the fire service and they found that it was a pretty good system. It was pretty much universally adopted in years following 9/11. Next up there, we have All-Hazards Communications Leader (COML)/All-Hazards Communications Technicians (COMT). We have found with our latest, greatest interoperability communication systems, kind of fancy technology. We needed to have a higher level of training for our operators. On the technical side it is the CMOT. COML, the people who go through that, they learn how to manage multiple communication systems in a big disaster. For example, Community Unit Leaders were use the in the Kalalau search for the fugitive where we had a command vehicle on the canyon rim, a repeater down in the valley, and they are patching between the various entities like the Police, Fire Department, Department of Land and Natural Resources (DLNR) and, etcetera. That is why we use the COMLs and COMTs. Senior Officials, Management 312, we try to bring that in whenever possible. It is more of a condensed crash course to get higher government officials and people in political office. So, just to have them get quick familiarization with the overall process in ICS and emergency management. Next there, as an example, we brought in one of the first deliveries of the Hurriplan course,.Resilient Building Design for Coastal Communities. We had people from various County Departments, State Agencies, and even the private sector send some architects and engineers to attend. Interesting,things that hopefully we can use in future planning as we develop the various areas of the island. Training/Exercise Activities Priorities List, it looks like a bunch of things. I will try to not take too much of your time. Exercises are you our annual CSD exercises that Ted had mentioned. It is a Chemical Biological Radiological Nuclear Explosive and Weapons of Mass Destruction type, held jointly with the 93rd Civil Support Team and various partners on island. For example, our exercise included the Coast Guard, Department of Health, Police and Fire of course, Pacific Missile Range Facility (PMRF), Airport Crash Fire, and even TSA, etcetera. They get used to practicing together and when the real world things happens it is usually smoother thereafter. We do our local interoperability communication exercises, workshops, and drills. With the new equipment, we have to make sure everyone knows how to use it. We are really happy to have David coming on board to start working on that as well. We do annual full scale exercise, functional or table top with TSA. We do it with other Agencies as well. But that is one that we try to participate in as a major partner. Just last year with Makani Pahili, on the request of our Administration, we started to have interfaces with the Visitor Industry. Makani Pahili hurricane exercise, the first time we did it as a formal event, but prior to that, it had came up as a potential area where we have issues where hotels just randomly send their guests to a certain facility assuming it will be a shelter or they just crowd the airport and park their cars. We tried to address all of the common problem areas associated with Visitor Industry partners, bringing in Sue Kanoho and brought in Economic Development and put together a seminar. We will do that at least annually henceforth. Also we participate in State Civil Defense exercises. They take the lead in several exercise throughout the year be it Makani Pahili, 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 6 the hurricane exercise, Kamimiki, the tsunami exercise. We have also done the CERT, citizen core exercises. But that is as scheduled. It is not like it is an annual thing as of yet. Perhaps in the future. The last bullet there, many other joint exercises with various partner Agencies many of which are listed there. Before I forget, I did mark a bullet where Ted had wanted me to speak about some things. Objective two, goal two, performing updates to the tsunami evacuation maps and complete the tsunami signage. I will speak about the first item on that because signage is actually Mark's project. As far as the tsunami evacuation maps, we have previously reported about University of Hawai`i (UH) doing the study. They have came out with their state-of-the-art two dimensional modeling running various historic tsunamis at high tide and even running 9.5 earthquakes across eh Pacific rim. We have the modeling in hand. It has passed scientific peer review and by next week our people at Information Technology (IT) will have supplied us with large poster sized maps in which our Committee consisting of people from various disciplines will try to determine based on where they are telling us that water is going, where we shall draw our evacuation lines. So, that project will be taking shape and hopefully complete in the next few months. Mr. Daligdig: Thank you Elton. I this time, I would like to call on our Grants Coordinator, Ms. Chelsie Sakai and she will talk a little about how we manage our grants. CHELSIE SAKAI, Emergency Management Grant Coordinator: Basically, we are the sub-recipient of the Homeland Security Grant Program. Under this large umbrella of a grant falls various programs and the ones that we receive is the Citizen Core Program, that is where we have money set aside for the CERT program, the Community Emergency Response Team. We have some monies set aside for that. Also under that umbrella Interoperable Emergency Communications Grant Program and with those fundings, we can do training and exercise or attend Statewide meetings in regards to inoperability. The major one under that is the State Homeland Security Grant. Currently open we have Fiscal Year 2010, 2011, and 2012 and right now we are participating in the application for 2013. So, that is still pending. The purpose of the Homeland Security Grant is, like Elton was mentioning earlier, there are core capabilities and that falls under the National preparedness goals set by FEMA. We use the grant to support training and exercises. Some of the ones that Elton mentioned like our annual CST exercise, the grant will support logistics for it. It will support some overtime for first responders to participate in the training. Otherwise, it is used to support training and exercises that sometimes if it is held on a different island, we are able to send some of our people to attend the trainings there. The big one is that is supports equipment purchases and some of our big successes in this current Fiscal Year 2013 is that we were able to put Homeland Security money towards the public safety helicopter. Another big project is the Alternate Dispatch Center for Kaua`i Police Department which is located in the Fire Department headquarters upstairs and with the upgrades that we are doing to the 800 Mhz system, it also required a lot of equipment to also be upgraded. So, we put a large amount of the grant funds towards purchasing that equipment for our first responders. Mr. Daligdig: Thank you, Chelsie. At this time, I would like to call upon David who is not a member of our staff, but soon to be. He will be talking about I,I 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 7 telecommunications systems. This is a very sensitive area. If you ask a question that might relate to Homeland Security, then we will request that we move to Executive Session. DAVID MIYASAKI, County Telecommunications Officer: Part of my focus is to maintain the 800 Mhz system and assist various County entities for their communication needs. This map did not come out really right. But it showed the layout of the 800 Mhz system. We have currently five (5) main sites spread out all over Kauai that covers ninety percent (90%) of the island for Police, Fire, and various public safety entities. Just a little couple of pictures as far as the sites The center picture Phase 1 upgrade we did, which we replaced the main core to P25 operation. A list of various communication systems that the County maintains and I also listed the State, Federal, and Non-Governmental Organizations (NGO) communication systems just to show the breadth of what is out there. I am not going to go through all of it unless there are questions on that. okay. Then initiative for when and now when I move over to Civil Defense would be the 800 Mhz Phase 2 upgrade, that is in the CIP budget right not. Basically, what that is where we did the main core site to P25 and now we are proceeding out to the remote sites to get up to public safety and operability standards. Another project I am involved is the Next Generation (NG) 911 Upgrade and in the next couple of months we are going to be upgrading that system to IP. NG 911 basically is having the ability to receive texts in the 911 center. That is coming down the road. It is not exactly standard right now, but that is what the plan is. Last project I am in is the National Public Safety Broadband Network. Basically, what that was, was the congress passed the middle class, Tax Relief Act, and job creation of 2012. What that did was it took the 700 Mhz band and to dedicate it to public safety for broadband use and what they are doing they formed the Committee called First Net and in the process of getting back to the States as far as what their needs are and trying to proceed with a Nationwide broadband network. That is all have I. Mr. Daligdig: Thank you, David. At this time, I would like to call up Mark Marshall. He is our Emergency Management Officer and he will talk about some of the initiatives that we mentioned earlier, but in more detail. MARK MARSHALL, Emergency Management Officer: I actually gave Council a briefing earlier in the year before the tsunami warnings that we have. Part of what I have go over quickly is inclusive of what I briefed you with at that time period. Two (2) issues that Elton talked about the mapping. It is the responsibility of our Agency to draw the evacuation lines, not to be confuse with the inundation of where the scientists are telling us that water is going to reach. A little bit dramatic in the new inundation lines that the scientists are telling us about and we are typically going to use roadways as landmarks so that we can instruct our Police and Fire as to where the evacuation barricades and restricted zones will be. I beg, borrowed, and stole this idea from Hawaii County and some of my old employment there for sixteen (16) years with Parks and Recreation, this is a thermoplastic embossed roadway sign that we want to delineate when you are leaving a tsunami evacuation zone as a graphic display embossed into the center of the road. The Police and both State Highways and our County Public Works Roads folks, Ed Renaud, have embraced this idea and they also want to place some stanchions in the roads so that they can put up road closed signs or whatever signage would be appropriate 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 8 right at these signs. Then there would be in addition to that, embossed in the road, these evacuation signs and we have some that point straight left and right. They would be up on regular poles that delineating a route for residents and visitors as well as to what is the safe route out of an inundation route for a tsunami evacuation zone. Just so you know, we are going to use the same zoning for hurricane surge form the ocean surge and problem that we had in Hurricane Iniki and Hurricane Eva. It is not to confuse those evacuation zones will be in common for both tsunamis and hurricanes. It is too hard to have two (2) different sets. Then the last two (2) signs indicating that you are either leaving an evacuation zone area or entering tsunami evacuation zone and those would be held on stanchions as well. Chair Furfaro: Excuse me, Mark. Those are the ones that are currently used on the Big Island? Mr. Marshall: Correct. That is where I got these from. We did receive a small grant of thirty thousand dollars ($30,000) from the Tsunami Branch at State Civil Defense to buy the thermal plastic and the glue kits and the things that are folks and Public Works with Ed Renaud can install. Then to buy the poles and signage to also be installed by Public Works along our roadways and I have Roy McCormick in the work group with me who is going to mirror our efforts and I will provide him the poles and the signage for State Highways to get this campaign going. We are already storm ready and tsunami ready, a designation by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) who has a checklist of things that we need to meet. This is the last in your tsunami ready, although we already qualify, this is just some added good to have campaign evacuation route signage. So, that pretty much concludes my presentation. Mr. Daligdig: Our organization chart looks like this. It should have been handed out to you. Does everybody have it? It kind of describes the duties and responsibilities of each person within the Department. At this time, me and my staff will be prepared to answer any questions that you might have. Chair Furfaro: I am to throw a few of the first ones out because in about eight (8) minutes, I am going to turn the meeting over to Mr. Rapozo. Do you mind, Mr. Rapozo? The young lady that we met, the Grant Writer. Mr. Daligdig: Chelsie. Chair Furfaro: Say here name. Mr. Daligdig: Chelsie Sakai. Chair Furfaro: Oh, Chelsie. I am sorry. I am glad that I got clarification. Very good. What is the status of her position as a Grant Writer in your Department? Is she there recently and only there for Civil Defense? Is she there permanently and doing Fire and Police with Civil Defense which was originally the way we set it up? Can somebody help me there. I think you should answer that. Mr. Daligdig: I think I can basically answer that. Chelsie has been with the Department before I got here. So, she has been here for over two (2) years 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 9 and her primary focus is on grants management. But a lot of grants that we have go towards emergency responders like the Police and Fire Department. She manages all of that to make sure that their requests, if legal, is fulfilled. I would like to say she has done an excellent job in doing that. Chair Furfaro: I do not doubt her work performance. I want to make sure as being the longest and the most consistent every year in the Council, I want to make sure what we approved to be in Civil Defense was also inclusive of Fire Grants and Police grants, is that still the case? Mr. Daligdig: Chelsie, you want to answer that? Mr. Oshiro: In the current arrangement, Chelsie focuses primarily on Homeland Security. The degree of which she will do work for Police or Fire is limited to Homeland Security Funds budgeted to them. If they are going for a separate grant or even separate Department of Homeland Security/FEMA funds that are not flowing through our Office, those are handled independently in each Department. Chair Furfaro: Is her payroll recovery based on the fact that we have a Homeland Security Grant that reimburses us? Mr. Oshiro: She is one hundred percent (100%) Federally funded via the State Homeland Security Grant Program. Chair Furfaro: The position we once put in the budget for the three (3) Departments I just mentioned, has through evolution gone away? Mr. Daligdig: I would like to answer that with her position. Chair Furfaro: Maybe you should have Gary answer that. Gary, can you answer that for us? GARY K. HEU, Managing Director: Yes, Chair and thank you for the opportunity. As you folks recall a few years back, we made a transition in Civil Defense. The rationale behind the change that we proposed and this Council approved was that we felt that the Department needed more high level oversight and capacity, capacity at a higher level. So, what we did at that point in time was when Elton was promoted from his former position as the Grants Administrator, which is a position that you are talking about. Chair Furfaro: Yes. Mr. Heu: We converted that position and we converted that position to - what is now the Civil Defense Manager, Teddy's position. In answer to your question, I think Elton answered that relative to the kind of support that Police and Fire receive from Chelsie's position as it pertains to Homeland Security type of concerns. Currently the Police Department as well as the Fire Department do write for their own grants outside of the Homeland Security Grant to a large extent. 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 10 Chair Furfaro: You have answered my question. What we have is we took the position that was there to create extra manpower for Department and Civil Defense, but at the same time we received grant moneys that supports this young lady and her role. Mr. Heu: Correct. Chair Furfaro: As it relates to grants for Homeland Security and if those grants we pursue include items for Police and Fire, she can do the grant writing for them? Mr. Heu: She does support that, yes. Chair Furfaro: I understand it now. Thank you. Mr. Rapozo: I have a follow-up. Chair Furfaro: Go ahead, Mr. Rapozo. Mr. Rapozo: Unless you want to finish up. Chair Furfaro: No. I am going to slip out in a minute. But, go ahead. Mr. Rapozo: I am just curious, and I guess this would be for Chelsie. Chelsie, if you could come up. Chair Furfaro: By the way Chelsie, I appreciate the work you do. I just want to make sure that I understood how we are paying for you. Mr. Rapozo: Chelsie, your support of the other public safety Agencies, Police and Fire, do you actually write grants for them? Ms. Sakai: Because we are a sub-recipient of the Homeland Security Grant, we participate in the investment investigation which are kind of like the application saying what we intend to do with the money. Mr. Rapozo: As it relates to Homeland Security? Ms. Sakai; As it relates to Homeland Security. Mr. Rapozo: I am talking about those. I am talking about outside of Homeland because it think... Chair Furfaro: No. My question was very clear. They are only able to use her for Homeland Security. 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 11 Mr. Rapozo: Right. Chair Furfaro: That is all. Ms. Sakai: That is all. Mr. Rapozo: In essence the Police Department and the Fire Department do not have the grant writing support as far as it relates to grants out of Homeland Security? Ms. Sakai: Not from me, no. Mr. Rapozo: Not from anybody. They do not have grant writers. Ms. Sakai: My understanding is that they just use their staff from within their Departments. Mr. Rapozo: Thank you. Chair Furfaro: Again, congratulations for doing such a good job for Civil Defense and Police and Fire. Did you have another question for Gary? Ms, Yukimura: For Chelsie. But I think I would rather let you finish your questions first. Chair Furfaro: That was the only question I had at this point. Ms. Yukimura: I have questions about the Homeland Security Grants. Chair Furfaro: Why do we not have her come back up again. Councilwoman, you have the floor. Ms. Yukimura: Thank you. On page 9, so that was your part of the PowerPoint and by the way, welcome on board on our County team. Ms. Sakai: Thank you. Ms. Yukimura: What is the volume or the total amount of Homeland Security Grants that we have through, I guess, any Homeland Security Grant goes through Civil Defense? Ms. Sakai: State Civil Defense, yes and then it filters down to us. Ms. Yukimura: Even the grants that go to Fire and Police go through you too? 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 12 Ms. Sakai: Yes. Ms. Yukimura: Or are there... Ms. Sakai: No. Ms. Yukimura: It all goes through local Civil Defense? Ms. Sakai: Yes. Ms. Yukimura: What is the amount of that grant or those grants total amounts? Do we know that? Ms. Sakai: Not off the top of my head. Ms. Yukimura; We will ask that as a follow-up question then because I was curious as to, for example, the Citizen Core Program is some of those moneys are used for the CERT program? Ms. Sakai: Correct. Ms. Yukimura: I am just considered in how much money there actually is, and, of course, I am very glad to see that the 800 Mhz system does qualify for Homeland Security Grants too. Ms. Sakai: Yes. We did put a sizable portion of the grant into the Phase 1 upgrade. Ms. Yukimura: I know that we are funding through the CIP grant, a large part of the space for the 800 Mhz development for the upgrades. There was something about ultimate dispatch. Ms. Sakai: Alternate. li Ms. Yukimura: Oh, alternate dispatch center. Ms. Sakai: Yes. Ms. Yukimura: I am sorry. Some moneys went into developing our alternate dispatch center which is here with Fire right now? Ms. Sakai: Correct. Ms. Yukimura: Which I understand to be very critical. Ms. Sakai: Yes. S 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 13 Ms. Yukimura: Because if anything happens to our primary dispatch, we need to have another place that comes up immediately. I guess send a follow-up question. I would like to know how much is allocated to these different functions that I see as very valuable. Thank you. Chair Furfaro: We will send is that over a separate question. What is the right term that we are using for what I call the redundancy in the command center that is the backup at The Fire Department? Ms. Sakai: In the contract they call it the Alternate Dispatch Center. Chair Furfaro: Okay, so I will start calling it the Alternate Dispatch Center (ADC). Ms. Sakai: Yes. Chair Furfaro: Got it. Mr. Rapozo, on that note, I am going to step out. I am going to turn the meeting over to you. There being no objections, Chair Furfaro, the presiding officer relinquished Chairmanship to Mr. Rapozo. Ms. Rapozo: Thank you. Any new questions or follow-up questions first? New questions, go ahead. Ms. Nakamura; Thank you, Teddy for that presentation. I wanted to ask you, as of last year, there were nine (9) Civil Defense sirens that were not working and seven (7) where you had no contact person listed. Mr. Daligdig: Yes. Ms. Nakamura: What is the update as of today? Mr. Daligdig: As of last month, we —it is a different fiscal year. Ms. Nakamura: Whatever current data you have. Mr. Daligdig: Current data shows that we had two (2) systems down and both systems with no sound which means that something is wrong mechanically wrong with the siren. It requires maintenance on the part of the State and at that time I submitted a Work Order to the State saying these two (2) sirens require maintenance. Ms. Nakamura: Can you identify where those sirens are that are not working? 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 14 Mr. Daligdig: Yes, I can. The first one was down in Kalihiwai which is a coastal siren. Mr. Rapozo: You said was what kind of siren? Mr. Daligdig: Coastal. Mr. Rapozo: Okay. Mr. Daligdig: I focus on the coastal areas because those protect your people immediately. The second siren, and I do not know what happened here was the Kapa'a school siren which is across from Saint Catherine's and it is not a coastal siren. Ms. Nakamura: How many did not have a contact person to inform you it was not working? Mr. Daligdig: Let me look at this real fast. I do not have the data with me, but on top of my head I can guess. We had no contact person at the Chinese graveyard in Kekaha. We do have contact persons, but one of the persons who is usually home at the time of the siren actually had problem with hearing, he has a hearing problem. Mark, if you could help me out on this one? One is just located in a bad area, meaning that the charging systems does not work because it is charged by the sun and over the years, trees have grown and it is covered the system. Soon we will be going into a system that requires the sirens to be triggered by satellite and we are hoping that that will take care of this problem. I have already put in the request that we should relocate this siren to an area where we do not have the problem of shade. Ms. Nakamura: Last year, because there were so many not in service or did not have contacts. one of the suggestions that you were going to follow-up on was to work with the Finance Director to look at hiring of private vendors and/or paying for the travel cost to have the State Civil Defense technician to come down to immediately fix sirens that are not sounding. Have you done that? Mr. Daligdig: Yes, we have done that. In fact, we have the okay for the Finance Department, if it is something that we need right away because the State technicians cannot come down. We have that avenue open to us where we can hire a private contractor. As a matter of fact, we actually hired a private contractor to do a transformer replacement at the Kaumakani site in Kaumakani. Ms. Nakamura: What is the plan now for the Kalihiwai and Kapa'a Schools, as of when they have not had service? What is the duration of them not having the service? Mr. Daligdig: They were just put on the list last month, so it mean it mean that it is something immediate. We already put the Work Order in for the State to come and check them out. Now they have been notified and unfortunately for us the technician was on vacation. 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 15 Ms. Nakamura: Are you going to look at alternative ways to get this problem fixed? I think that is my siren. Mr. Daligdig: Yes, of course. Ms. Nakamura: Do we have a backup plan or do we have a date tentative, where these two (2) will be fixed? Mr. Daligdig: The backup plan, I go out and verify why the siren if off. I go out the next clay. When there is no sound, I immediately run a siren test through our Department to confirm there was actually no sound. Sometimes it is listed as no sound because the person was not there to hear it. But if they continue to be no sound, as I said, I submit a Work Order to the State. If they do not respond right away, then I go and get a private technician to come and work on it like we can for Kaumakani. For these two (2) that you talked about, we have put in a request, we have to get all of the bids necessary to get them to come out and repair the sirens for us. Usually, that does not happen overnight. Ms. Nakamura: How long is the usual turnaround? Mr. Daligdig: The turnaround is usually about thirty (30) days that we go out and get the bids per the procurement law. Ms. Nakamura: That is if we do it ourselves? Mr. Daligdig: Right. If we do not do it ourselves, the Civil Defense Officials, they coordinate a visit when they send down all of their technicians. However, if it is really urgent, I notify the State Civil Defense Communication Officer and he releases his people and they usually send them down right away. Ms. Nakamura: Thank you. Mr. Rapozo: Go ahead, Councilmember Yukimura. Ms. Yukimura: Teddy, the two (2) sirens you mentioned, Kalawai and Kapa'a school, you said that they were... Mr. Daligdig: Mechanically there was something wrong. Ms. Yukimura: Yes, and they were discovered to be not functioning about thirty (30) days ago? Mr. Daligdig: During our last test that we had which was the first of the month, April 1st. Ms. Yukimura: Oh, April 1st. 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 16 Mr. Daligdig: Yes. Ms. Yukimura: They were discovered to be and then Council Vice Chair was talking about the turnaround time to get them repaired and you say within thirty (30) days you have them repaired? Mr. Daligdig: Right. My understanding is that Kapa'a High School one has been repaired, but we are waiting for Kalihiwai one to be replaced. Ms. Yukimura: Other than that, the other sirens are working now? Mr. Daligdig: Yes, ma'am. Ms. Yukimura: Okay. That seems to be better. Mr. Daligdig: Let me just step back because that was an erroneous statement. Ms. Yukimura: Okay, good. Mr. Daligdig: We had one siren that malfunctioned and it was the siren at the Vidinha Stadium. The of a Work Order has been produced and that siren is currently turned off, so it does not interrupt the sleep of the neighboring communities. Ms. Yukimura: Because it was going off at the wrong time? Mr. Daligdig: Yes, any old time. Ms. Yukimura: So, that certainly is not a properly functioning siren. Mr. Daligdig: No. Ms. Yukimura: But other than that, the sirens around the island are known to be working? Mr. Daligdig: Yes. Ms. Yukimura: And you still have the system of calling people on their phones, too? Mr. Daligdig: That was an old system. We have reverted to a new system due to technology and that system is that we send out a message to all the contact numbers that we have and they respond to a survey. Did you hear it? Yes. Did you not hear it? No. Then we take that data, and we compare it with our sirens to determine 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 17 which ones did not sound. We have an automated system. It is not working as good as it should. But we back that up by calling the people again manually. Ms. Yukimura: We are talking about phone systems and you are telling me about the way that you are testing whether those phone systems are working? Mr. Daligdig: Yes. Ms. Yukimura: Okay. It seems like y. your staff wants to add a couple of things. Mr. Marshall: If I may. Our Blackboard Connect CTY which is the public notification system that we have. What we have done is we purchased the Hawaiian Telephone directory and that is the basis of our database for folks that are in our notification system. So, you have to remember that they are voluntarily part of that system and it will send you a voice message or call. It will E-mail you and text you messages. Typically, the last time we used it was for the flash flood warning that we just had. The Water Department has the ability to draw a shape on the map of Kaua`i and only contact those individuals that are inside that location, that area to tell them that there is a water outage and that there is some kind of problem with their water system. They are the largest user of Blackboard Connect CTY. We also use it to re-call Police, Fire and other County personnel on the backside of that. What Ted was alluding to, we are also using it to survey the sirens, rather than calling fifty-four (54) different sites. Often times the list is three (3) to four (4) people deep as to who to call. We are using that as an automated side and are having a little bit of glitches with that. Ms. Yukimura: So, are you using phone calling to see whether people are hearing the siren? Mr. Marshall: Correct, and that is an automated system. I hold out that the media is our first avenue to the public in notification, either your radio or your television. Secondary to that would be Blackboard Connect CTY, our public notification. We spend about fifty-five thousand dollars ($55,000) a year on that service. Then tertiary to that would be the outdoor warning sirens. In connection with the outdoor warning signage, we also have simulators at the air rescue firefighters at the Department of Transportation Airport. So, they have a simulator inside their fire station that tells them that sirens are sounding. There are several of those that are not outdoor warning sirens, but are parted of that system for notification. Ms. Yukimura: So just so I understand your Blackboard Connect CTY, the people you are calling are the ones that are in the phone book, is that right, and others who asked for it? Ms. Marshall: All cell phones have to be self-promulgated or you can call our Office at 241-1800. I am going to give you that number again, 241-1800. We will assist those that are not computer literate or capable in becoming part of that system. I have to tell you that we had one family with six (6) people who all signed up mom 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 18 because she was not a computer person. The system recognizes redundant numbers and it calls them out. It also recognizes analog numbers, ,like scada systems or facsimile machines, and cuddles those out of the system. Our Communications Director with Beth Tokioka and Mary Dauber, they are all super-users with that Blackboard Connect CTY along with folks from Police, Fire, water supply, and Public Works. So, people that need to do messaging have a lot of those already in the can, so to speak, that have already been articulated and can launch them in short notice. All of our staff is also well versed in running that computer based system. Ms. Yukimura: In terms of the reach of this emergency notification system, it is people who have listed phone numbers? Mr. Marshall: Correct. Ms. Yukimura: Is that right? And it is others who have asked to be put on the cell? Mr. Marshall: Self-promulgated. Ms. Yukimura: Whether is cell phone or an unlisted number? Mr. Marshall: Correct. Ms. Yukimura: And they call at 241-4100, was it? Mr. Marshall: 241-1800. Ms. Yukimura: I am sorry, 241-1800. Mr. Marshall: It is just our Office number. If they want assistance with that. Ms. Yukimura: If they want to be put on it? Mr. Marshall: Yes. Ms. Yukimura: Thank you. Mr. Marshall: I need to tell you about one other thing that has happened with noted if notification since we are on that subject. The Federal Government has come up with an Integrated Public Alert Warning System, IPAWS is the acronym. IPAWS is part of our emergency alert system which you are familiar with the TV crawlers or the voice alerts on radios that go out. All of our radio stations are in volunteer compliance with the emergency alert system. All of the TV broadcasters are in voluntary compliance with that system. The Federal Government has added the Integrated Public Alert Warning System to that and what is it does is that it geolocates any Smartphone and it sends you messaging immediately as soon as the National Weather Service says Kaua`i is 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 19 in a flash flood warning. They send out a coded message that turns your phone on. The oddity is that once that has been alarmed and you recognize it, it goes away off your phone. You cannot find it in a text, you cannot find it in a missed call, you cannot find it anywhere on the phone. It was launched initially in the State on O`ahu and then in this last one, again, voluntary compliance with the carriers. Verizon was the only one on Kaua`i that had enabled that for this last warning. So, people were receiving those from the Federal government thinking that it was the County and not real happy with it because they could not figure out the source of this warning that they were receiving. I think it is a good thing once we get the wrinkles ironed out of it, in that visitors or residents with a Smartphone will automatically get messages because they will be triangulated and they know that areas, the geolocation of that individual phone and it will message that phone. The down side is that every time the flash flood warning is continued, it messages you again and then when it expires, it messages you that they have stopped. In this last one, every three (3) hours people were getting additional messaging and they were irritated by that after the initial one. Discovery with the telephone providers, the carriers, it is on your Smartphone itself the ability to disable the notification. So, if you did not want to get warnings from IPAWS, you could turn it off on your phone. But otherwise, it would be left on. Mr. Rapozo: Councilmember Hooser. Mr..Hooser: I apologize I had to step out earlier and actually talked to Senator Kouchi about the TAT and everything should be okay. It is not over until it is over. I missed part of the earlier dialogue. It is nice to see both of you here. Mr. Marshall, long time no see. I think when I was here before, you were here across answering question and that is what made me think about the sirens because I believe this is not a new issue of course, sirens going out. But I believe when I was here before that there were reports showing a listing of the sirens to various locations, which ones were out and then how long they were out. Do we have a report like that or did I miss it? Mr. Daligdig: We keep a report like that at our facility. I do not have that here with me right now. But if you want the report, we can give you the report. Mr. Rapozo: We will send it over. Teddy, we will send it over as a request. I do not know if you were here when he said two (2). Mr. Hooser: Two (2), and then a third? Mr. Rapozo: A third was turned off. Mr. Hooser: Turned off. Mr. Rapozo: So, it is three (3). But compared to last year... Mr. Daligdig: Nine (9). 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 20 Mr. Hooser: But we used to get them on a quarterly basis or something and it is helpful to the Council. Mr. Daligdig: Okay. Mr. Hooser: When the community calls up and we can forward those. That was my siren question. I had some other. Mr. Rapozo: Any other siren questions because we have twenty (20) minutes and I would like to get back to the budget itself, the numbers. We spent a lot of time on the sirens. Do you have a new question? Mr. Hooser: It is not specifically a numbers question, but really quick. Mr. Rapozo: Go ahead. Mr. Hooser: During your presentation you mentioned objectives, so many meetings at schools, and what not. It made me think and again, I am not have been here but I did not see it, could you provide if you have not already, a list of what you did this past year in all of those areas? So many visits to schools, so many media presentations. Some of them is one per quarter and so it would be interesting to know how many you have been doing to judge whether these are new or how aggressive the goals are. Mr. Daligdig: I do not have that data with me, but we can provide you that data. Mr. Hooser: We can send it over, too. Mr. Rapozo: I have that down. Please provide a list of all training, conferee, and exercise dates for Fiscal Year 2013. Also, list the duration of each event, total participants, and total cost. Mr. Hooser: Yes, and if we could follow the format so we can compare what their goals to what actually was done. It would be helpful for me. Thank you. I will hold my other questions for now. Mr. Rapozo: Any follow-up questions? If not, any new questions? Councilmember Yukimura. Ms. Yukimura: I am not sure it is a question, but I just want to acknowledge. Mr. Rapozo: Make it a question, JoAnn. Ms. Yukimura: Well, then it is for the telecommunications system. Welcome aboard David. 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 21 Mr. Miyasaki: Thank you. Ms. Yukimura: David is the new Officer, but you have been working with this system on the other side. Mr. Miyasaki: Correct, the private side. Ms. Yukimura: For over twenty (20) years? Mr. Miyasaki: Right. Ms. Yukimura: It is good to have you with your expertise. We are entering the second phase of the update on the telecommunications system and if the CIP moneys are approved, do we have a clear timetable for one (1) year performance on this update? Mr. Miyasaki: Once we get the contract executed, we expect that will take about a year to get it done. Ms. Yukimura: And you are going to contract with a vendor? Mr. Miyasaki: Right. Ms. Yukimura: To update it? Mr. Miyasaki: Right Ms. Yukimura: And that will be the completion of Phase 2? Mr. Miyasaki: Yes. Ms. Yukimura: In one year? Mr. Miyasaki: Yes. Ms. Yukimura: Okay. About will that bring us to full interoperability and functioning or do we have another phase? Mr. Miyasaki: We have a third phase. Phase 2 was to turn the remote system to P25. Actually, it was to convert half of the sites, half of the capabilities of the sites to P25 and the reason we do that in different phases is number one, cost and part of that cost is the users. All the users are not P25 ready. We go to full P25 system, we are going to leave out some of the users behind. Ms. Yukimura: Can you give a brief distribution of P25 or does everybody know that? 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 22 Mr. Miyasaki: P25 was a standard created by AMCO. What that is it is a standard that is agreed by all Federal, State, the whole government, public safety communities as how they communicate, what the rate of their system uses, and it is an open standard so there is no proprietary information and no requirements in there. It allows interoperability for one. Ms. Yukimura: Which is everybody communicating with everybody? Mr. Miyasaki: Right, and that is what I had that list of m Y g � my fifteen (15) different user systems out there and they are not P25 and they all do not communicate with one another. We all learned that from 9/11. But then it also helps the County and the community at large because it is not proprietary, it is an open standard and that cost goes down because we can use multiple vendors. Ms. Yukimura: If we finish three (3) years, is the goal of that having all the critical users being connected and having that interoperability? Mr. Miyasaki: Right, and the primary focus is on first responders. Ms.Yukimura: Right. Now, you mentioned a 700 Mhz band dedicated to public what was it? Mr. Miyasaki: It is public safety broadband. Ms. Yukimura: Public safety broadband? Mr. Miyasaki: Right. Ms. Yukimura: And of what utility is that? Mr. Miyasaki: I am sorry, utility? Ms. Yukimura: What usefulness? What is the relationship to Civil Defense and public safety? Mr. Miyasaki: It is not Civil Defense, but for the County and public safety community. It allows data communications. Ms. Yukimura: Oh, that is the texting. Mr. Miyasaki: Right. Well, for MDTs we are able to send video back from a disaster scene. What that was, was the public safety communities has been fighting for that 700 Mhz that has been up for auction that they wanted for public safety use. Initially, FCC was trying to auction it in private and I guess no one made the minimum bid. So, finally Congress got involved and they did the Middle Class Act, they 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 23 assigned to public safety and part of assigning it to public safety was forming a group called First Net Aboard that will oversee the project going forward. Right now we are in the data gathering stage. Ms. Yukimura: This is a brand new development in the last year that happened? Mr. Miyasaki: Yes. Ms. Yukimura: This, putting aside this 700 Mhz band use for public safety use? Mr. Miyasaki: Right. Ms. Yukimura: Thank you very much. Mr. Rapozo: Thank you. Do you have a follow-up or new question? Go ahead. Ms. Nakamura: Thank you. This has to do with the tsunami evacuation mapping. I wanted to find out about what the implications of are of this new mapping and is the funding for the evacuation route and signage standardization in this budget? Mr. Daligdig: Huge impact as Mark was alluding to earlier, especially in the communities in Kapa`a, South Shore, and Kekaha. Mark talked a little bit about the grants that we went after to get the signage so that we could mark the evacuation routes and I will let Mark talk about that. Mr. Marshall: I asked for some help from State Civil Defense who indicated that they had some money for signage and for route design. So, they granted us thirty thousand dollars ($30,000). It is a reimbursable grant. Once we spend money and get invoiced, we send it off to the State for reimbursement. So, that thirty thousand dollars ($30,000) is pretty much for the thermal plastics that I should you in the road, for the signs and posts themselves. Then I wanted obviously, enough of them to do some continued maintenance over the next three (3) years if a sign is damaged or vandalized so that we can quickly replace it. The labor is being absorbed by the County workforce. So, that is a big savings for us in terms of instead of having a private contractor going and installing and doing all of these things for us. The other Departments, Interdepartmental Agency relationships are really good and they are anxious to help us with this campaign. Ms. Nakamura: Thank you. Mr. Rapozo: Any other questions? Go ahead. Ms. Nakamura: Just a follow-up. I would like to get a briefing on what the implication of those maps are because I think it takes into account the late 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 24 technologies and the Indonesian tsunami experience. I am not sure about the Councilmembers, but I was going to try to get an individual briefing on what those impacts are. Mr. Rapozo: We can definitely schedule had a that in the Public Safety Committee so the public can get the benefit of that as well. Mr. Oshiro: The most obvious impact is based on new modeling, we are going to have to move those lines and expand in most areas. Mr. Rapozo: Let us same that discussion. I do not want to have you come back after lunch. We are going to go to 1:00 p.m. We are supposed to go until 12:30 p.m., so I want to get you folks back. I do not want to have to bring you folks back. Any other questions on the budget numbers because I have a few regarding the numbers. If you folks want to discuss philosophies and tidal zones, we can do that in a Committee. But the first question is, and I am assuming on the electricity, is that expenditure being transferred from another Department? KARLEEN ABALOS, Public Safety Communication Secretary: The ninety-one thousand dollars ($91,000) was transferred from Police's account. Mr. Rapozo: So, they were maintaining the electricity expenditures in their budget? Ms. Abalos: Yes. Mr. Rapozo: The other question that connects CTY, is says the contract is going to expire next month and it says the new contract will follow an unknown amount that. That is scary. Ms. Abalos: Yes. Mr. Rapozo: What do we expect? What are we thinking? Ms. Abalos: The same. Mr. Rapozo: The same? Ms. Abalos: Yes. Mr. Rapozo: Are we sure? Mr. Marshall: It is based on the number of subscribers. Mr. Daligdig: In fact, I think I got am E-mail before I came. I did not ready it yet. 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 25 Mr. Rapozo: So, that is based on users? Mr. Daligdig: Yes. Mr. Rapozo: Anybody else have questions on the numbers, the budget? I had a question on the siren. So, that is pretty much all I had as far as budget. The only other two (2) was the vehicle leases, is that lease-to-own? Mr. Daligdig: Yes. Mr. Rapozo: So, that is why it is so high, the lease amounts versus the traditional lease? So, at the end of this year, we own those two (2) vehicles or at the end of—one of them is the third year and the other is a first year. Ms. Abalos: Well, it got kind of pushed back because our first year started this year because it was budgeted last year, but they did not complete the lease agreement until this year. We just got the vehicle. Mr. Rapozo: But this is a lease-to-own? So, at the end of the three (3) years we own this vehicle out right? Ms. Abalos: Yes. Mr. Rapozo: Ernie, this is showing me five (5), but the budget is showing three (3). It is saying replacement sports utility vehicle (SUV) for Telecommunication Officer first year of a three (3) year lease, thirteen thousand nine hundred dollars ($13,900) which come out to one thousand one hundred fifty-eight dollars ($1,158) a month and then the other one is replace equipment, 2002 Explorer. It is a third year of a three (3) year lease at fifteen thousand one hundred dollars ($15,100). Ms. Abalos: That is because nobody else bid. Mr. Rapozo: My only question is at the end of the three (3) years we own it. We are not turning it back or renewing a new lease for a new vehicle. Ms. Abalos: Yes. Mr. Rapozo: Councilmember Nakamura. Ms. Nakamura: On the lease payments for the radio towers, I noticed some major increases in some of the line items that I think is a result of the disparity in the lease amounts and people getting wind of what we are paying for some leases that are affecting future leases. In your strategic plan for upcoming initiatives, have you considered looking at the possibility of condemning properties because of this public use? 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 26 Mr. Daligdig: Yes, we have. You are right about the disparity. I think you are right about people getting wind that some organizations are charging much higher. We are moving towards condemning properties that have gone — I feel above and beyond what we are paying right now and one in particular, I think we covered in Executive Session so I will not talk about it. Ms. Nakamura: I am going to stop you right there. We can have that discussion in Executive Session if we are going to go into specific parcels then we will have it in Executive Session. Mr. Daligdig: No, I will not. Ms. Nakamura: Councilmember Rapozo, one thing I do want to make sure that if this is a direction that we are moving in, it needs to be noted in your upcoming initiatives, that this is something that you will spend time and resources focusing, working with the Finance Department and the County Attorneys to make sure we have a plan for implementing. Mr. Daligdig: Yes. Ms. Nakamura: I think there is some support from the Council and I think we should have those discussions this year. Mr. Rapozo: The only reason I stopped him he sounds like he was going to go into a specific. Mr. Daligdig: No, I would not do that. Mr. Rapozo: Good. I feel better. Any other questions? Mr. Bynum. Mr. Bynum: Just looking at the budget, page 150, I do not see the Grants Coordinator position on this list. I am just a little confused. Ms. Abalos: It is not a general funded position. It is a grant funded position, one hundred percent (100%). Mr. Bynum: Enough said. Thank you. I guess I would add one thing here in the silence here, that Housing has always done a great job of giving a full staff analysis and what is grant fund and what is County and that is a nice model. I will not ask silly questions like that. Ms. Abalos: I know that it was on our narrative. Mr. Bynum: No biggy. 04-19-2013 Civil Defense Agency (aa) Page 27 Mr. Rapozo: Any other questions? You folks all hungry? Thank you very much. I do not see anyone here from the public to testify. Anybody else wants to make a few comments before we break? Mr. Mayor? Okay, I saw you stand up. We will take a lunch recess and be back at 2:00 p.m. for Fire Department Ocean Safety Bureau. There being no objections, the Committee recessed at 12:55 p.m.