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APRIL 24, 2013
The Council Meeting of the Council of the County of Kaua`i was called to
order by the Council Chair Jay Furfaro at the Council Chambers, 4396 Rice Street,
Room 201, Lihu`e, Kaua`i, on Wednesday, April 24, 2013 at 9:01 a.m., after which
the following members answered the call of the roll:
Honorable Tim Bynum
Honorable Gary L. Hooser
Honorable Ross Kagawa
Honorable Nadine K. Nakamura
Honorable Mel Rapozo
Honorable JoAnn A. Yukimura
Honorable Jay Furfaro
APPROVAL OF AGENDA.
Mr. Rapozo moved for approval of the agenda as circulated, seconded by
Mr. Bynum, and unanimously carried.
MINUTES of the following meetings of the Council:
March 20, 2013 Special Council Meeting
March 27, 2013 Public Hearing re: Bill No. 2467
April 3, 2013 Public Hearing re: Bill No. 2473
April 10, 2013 Public Hearing re: Bill No. 2468, Bill No. 2469, and
Bill No. 2470
Mr. Bynum moved to approve the Minutes as circulated, seconded by
Mr. Rapozo, and unanimously carried.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
C 2013-161 Communication (04/02/2013) from the Planning Director,
transmitting for Council information, a Resolution adopted by the Kaua`i Historic
Preservation Commission (KHPRC) recommending that a full time Historic
Preservation Planner position be established within the County of Kaua`i Planning
Department: Mr. Bynum moved to receive C 2013-161 for the record, seconded by
Mr. Rapozo, and unanimously carried.
C 2013-162 Communication (04/08/2013) from the Mayor, transmitting for
Council consideration and confirmation, Mayoral appointees to the various Boards
and Commissions for the County of Kaua`i:
(1) Fire Commission:
• Heidy K. Huddy-Yamamoto — Term ending 12/31/2013
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(2) Cost Control Commission:
• Joanne P. Nakashima— Term ending 12/31/2013:
Mr. Bynum moved to receive C 2013-162 for the record, seconded by Mr. Rapozo,
and unanimously carried.
Chair Furfaro: For the general audience, it is our plan to go
into Executive Session first this morning so that you are aware of our calendar.
When we come back, we are going to go into Communications. May I ask the
County Attorney to please come up at this time? Good morning, Amy.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
AMY I. ESAKI, First Deputy County Attorney: Good morning. Amy
Esaki, First Deputy County Attorney.
Chair Furfaro: Amy, there is only one (1) item that we need
to address this morning. I will call you back up later this afternoon for the other
Executive Sessions.
Ms. Esaki: Is that for ES-619 and ES-620?
Chair Furfaro: Yes.
Ms. Esaki: Okay. I will proceed by reading the posting.
There being no objections, ES-619 and ES-620 was taken out of the order.
EXECUTIVE SESSION:
ES-619 Pursuant to Hawai`i Revised Statutes (HRS) Sections 92-4 and
92-5(a)(2) and Kauai County Charter Section 3.07(E), the Board of Ethics requests
an Executive Session with the Council to provide the Council with a briefing on the
retention of special counsel to represent the Board of Ethics in BOE 13-001 and
related matters. This briefing and consultation involves the hire, evaluation,
discipline or dismissal, or discipline of an officer or employee or of charges brought
against an officer or employee where consideration of matters affecting privacy will
be involved; provided that if the individual concerned requests an open meeting, an
open meeting shall be held.
ES-620 Pursuant to Hawai`i Revised Statutes (HRS) Sections 92-4 and
92-5(a)(2) and Kaua`i County Charter Section 3.07(E), the Board of Ethics requests
an Executive Session with the Council to provide the Council with a briefing on the
retention of special counsel for the Board of Ethics in BOE 13-001 and related
matters. This briefing and consultation involves the hire, evaluation, discipline or
dismissal, or discipline of an officer or employee or of charges brought against an
officer or employee where consideration of matters affecting privacy will be
involved; provided that if the individual concerned requests an open meeting, an
open meeting shall be held.
The meeting was called back to order, and proceeded as follows:
Chair Furfaro: Thank you. Amy, before I call for the vote to
go into Executive Session, going I am oin to also ask that we vote now since our
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candidates are here on the two (2) Commission interviews. I think everyone was
fine with those items. First, let me do a roll call on going into Executive Session.
Mr. Rapozo moved to convene into Executive Session for ES-619 and ES-620,
seconded by Ms. Yukimura, and carried by the following vote:
FOR EXECUTIVE SESSIONS: Bynum, Hooser, Kagawa, Nakamura,
Rapozo, Yukimura, Furfaro TOTAL — 7,
AGAINST EXCUTIVE SESSIONS:None TOTAL— 0,
EXCUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0,
RECUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL — 0.
Chair Furfaro: I would like to vote on our two (2) candidates this
morning.
There being no objections, Resolution No. 2013-49 was taken out of the order.
RESOLUTIONS:
Resolution No. 2013-49 — RESOLUTION CONFIRMING MAYORAL
APPOINTMENT TO THE FIRE COMMISSION (Heidy K Huddy-Yamamoto)
Mr. Rapozo moved for adoption of Resolution No. 2013-49, seconded by
Ms. Yukimura, and carried by the following vote:
FOR APPROVAL: Bynum, Hooser, Kagawa, Nakamura,
Rapozo, Yukimura, Furfaro TOTAL — 7,
AGAINST APPROVAL: None TOTAL — 0,
EXCUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0,
RECUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0.
There being no objections, Resolution No. 2013-50 was taken out of the order.
Resolution No. 2013-50 — RESOLUTION CONFIRMING MAYORAL
APPOINTMENT TO THE COST CONTROL COMMISSION
(Joanne P. Nakashima): Mr. Hooser moved for adoption of Resolution No. 2013-50,
seconded by Ms. Yukimura.
Chair Furfaro: Any discussion?
Mr. Kagawa: Homerun.
Chair Furfaro: Wow. First day and a homerun. Terrific. I
forgot baseball season just opened too.
The motion to adopt Resolution No. 2013-50 was then put, and carried by the
following vote:
FOR APPROVAL: Bynum, Hooser, Kagawa, Nakamura,
Rapozo, Yukimura, Furfaro TOTAL — 7,
AGAINST APPROVAL: None TOTAL— 0,
EXCUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0,
RECUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL — 0.
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Chair Furfaro: Seven (7) ayes. Grandslam with bases loaded.
Joanne, Thank you very much for your service. Paula, thank you very much. For
the public who is in the audience, we are breaking and voted on going into one (1)
Executive Session this morning. Members, can I ask you if we can break into the
Executive Chambers no more than five (5) minutes, please. We are in recess and
going into Executive Session.
There being no objections, the meeting recessed at 9:08 a.m.
The meeting reconvened back from Executive Session at 9:46 a.m., and
proceeded as follows:
Ms. Nakamura: The Council Meeting is called back to order. We
would like to take two (2) Communications first. We will do one at a time. Can you
read the first Communication?
COMMUNICATIONS:
C 2013-163 Communication (04/03/2013) from the Chair of the Board of
Ethics (BOE) for authorization to expend funds up to $7,000 to retain special
counsel to represent the Board of Ethics in drafting a resolution setting forth the
nature and scope of an investigation related to BOE 13-001, providing legal advice
during Board meetings pertaining to said investigation, and related matters:
Mr. Rapozo moved to approve C 2013-163, seconded by Mr. Bynum, and
unanimously carried.
C 2013-164 Communication (04/03/2013) from the Chair of the Board of
Ethics (BOE) for authorization to expend funds up to $10,000 to retain special
counsel for the Board of Ethics to investigate BOE 13-001 and related matters:
Mr. Bynum moved to approve C 2013-164, seconded by Mr. Rapozo.
Mr. Rapozo: I have something to say, Madame Chair. As
it relates to C 2013-163 and C 2013-164, can we have Staff send over a request to
the Board of Ethics to keep us posted as far as when these things are accomplished?
I want to be informed of when the Special Counsel for C 2013-163 is retained, more
specifically. Thank you.
Ms. Nakamura: Okay. Thank you. Staff, can we make note
of that concern and keep the Council updated during this process.
The motion to approve C 2013-164 was then put, and unanimously carried.
There being no objections, the meeting recessed at 9:48 a.m.
The meeting reconvened at 9:51 a.m., and proceeded as follows:
Chair Furfaro: We are back. I believe we are on Page 2
which is C 2013-165. Can I have that item read, please?
C 2013-165 Communication (04/03/2013) from the Chief of Police, requesting
Council approval to purchase two (2) replacement dispatch console furnishings for
the communications center at an estimated cost of $45,000 which will be funded
from unexpended funds in account number 001-1001-551.89-06: Mr. Kagawa moved
to approve C 2013-165, seconded by Mr. Rapozo, and unanimously carried.
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Chair Furfaro: Please come right up, in case there are any
questions.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
Chair Furfaro: You might not even have to turn on your mic.
Let us see if we have any questions for you. Are there any questions for the Police
Department? No. Thank you for being here with David. Is there anyone in the
audience who wants to testify?
The meeting was called back to order, and proceeded as follows:
The motion to approve C 2013-165 was then put, and unanimously carried.
C 2013-166 Communication (04/08/2013) from the Director of Finance,
transmitting for Council information, the Third Quarter Statement of Equipment
Purchases for Fiscal Year 2012-2013, pursuant to Section 17, Ordinance
No. B-2012-736, the Fiscal Year 2012-2013 Operating Budget of the County of
Kauai: Mr. Rapozo moved to receive C 2013-166 for the record, seconded by
Mr. Kagawa, and unanimously carried.
C 2013-167 Communication (04/10/2013) from the Director of Finance,
transmitting for Council information, the Periods 7 & 8 Financial Reports –
Detailed Budget Report, Statement of Revenues (Estimated and Actual), Statement
of Expenditures and Encumbrances, and Revenue Report as of February 28, 2013,
pursuant to Section 21 of the Fiscal Year 2012-2013 Operating Budget Ordinance
No. B-2012-736 of the County of Kaua`i. (Copies of the Periods 7 & 8 Financial
Reports as of February 28, 2013 on file in the County Clerk's Office): Mr. Rapozo
moved to receive C 2013-167 for the record, seconded by Ms. Yukimura.
Chair Furfaro: I have some discussion but I will give you the
floor first.
Ms. Nakamura: Thank you. Councilmembers, the
Communication that we received—I think it is by the Budget Proviso that we have
this item on the agenda and the document is very thick. Over the past two (2)
years, I have tried to discuss with the Department of Finance to get it into a format
that is more condensed into three (3) or four (4) pages that summarizes all of that
data. I will be working on a proviso to the Budget that gives that direction to the
Department of Finance. I just wanted to let you know that I am hoping we can see
it in our Budget packets if it is five (5) pages long. Thank you.
Mr. Bynum: I just want to thank you for that initiative. I
am one who reviews these documents. It is a learning curve to find out where the
numbers are that you are really interested in and most of the paper is not
something I review. There are just these key elements that you have to kind of
search through to find them. It is a great idea and I concur.
Ms. Nakamura: Most of the Boards that I have been on, all
you get is a summary of the financial situations, at least quarterly. I know that the
Department of Finance has worked on it and they have shown me samples of what
they could be producing, but they just have not. We will be working on that.
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Mr. Bynum: Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: I would like a communication to go over.
Since I was the Finance Chair, I used to do the cash accounts which reference the
Cash Flow for the period in the period. Since we are in Budget, regardless of this
new potential reporting that potentially will be developed by Mr. Bynum and
Council Vice Chair Nakamura, I just want them to simply send us a financial
document that shows us the variables in the amounts we are spending for eight (8)
months. In other words, if the account is budgeted for five point eight million
dollars ($5,800,000) and they have only spent four point one million dollars
($4,100,000), they are showing us a Cash Flow balance of one point seven percent
(1.7%). They are not spending in accordance with the budget practices. We will
send that over as a separate communication. I want a statement that tells us what
our cash comparison against the budgeted amounts.
Mr. Rapozo: For me, all I really need to see is the Budget,
the actuals up to the quarter, and the anticipated encumbrances. That is for me
and for my little, small mind. That is all I need as we prepare for Budget.
Chair Furfaro: What I just said is exactly what you just
described.
Mr. Rapozo: Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: Budget amount, what the cash spending is,
and showing us what the surplus is is those accounts. Any further discussion?
The motion to receive C 2013-167 for the record was then put, and
unanimously carried.
C 2013-168 Communication (04/16/2013) from the Managing Director of
Ho`ike Kaua`i Community Television, Inc., requesting Council approval to accept
the donations of four (4) High Definition VADCCU HD19 cameras valued at
approximately $22,895 for use in the Historic County Building's Council Chambers
for the video production of Council and Committee Meetings: Mr. Kagawa moved to
approve C 2013-168 with a thank you letter, seconded by Mr. Rapozo.
Chair Furfaro: Members, I want to say a little bit more.
This is something that I have been working with Jay on since we got our new
cameras and processing. Ho`ike made this commitment to assist us in getting the
right equipment to do the right job. Thank you for noting the thank you letter, but I
want to you all note that personally over the last year, Jay and Ho`ike have come
it
through for us. They are much a pp reciated. Thank you.
Ms. Yukimura: I also have great appreciation for the work
that you, Chair and Ho`ike have done. I am continually astounded at how many
people watch this. Councilmember Rapozo says millions. It is really a very
important tool of democracy, I think, that allows the videotaping and transmission
of these meetings which allows the public to participate fully and become informed.
There is a circle back to us as they come to inform us of their position. It is a very,
very important part of our democratic process. Anything to make it work well is
very much appreciated.
Chair Furfaro: Yes. Thank y ou.
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Mr. Kagawa: I want to thank you, Mr. Chair, and Jay
Robertson from Ho`ike and all of Ho`ike's board and everybody—Mr. BC. I think for
better or for worse, like Councilmember Yukimura said, we are highly visible to the
public and it is a credit to Ho`ike and their mission that so many people follow on
the television and online. I want to thank you very much. I wanted to mention that
I got my broadcasting start with Jay at KUAI Radio. We did Kaua`i Interscholastic
Federation (KIF) football and baseball for approximately seven (7) years together.
We even did a State championship game at Aloha Stadium, a couple of those games.
Jay is a great guy and I just want to thank Ho`ike because you guys are definitely
serving the mission of public television. Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: BC, excellent job. Mahalo.
The motion to approve C 2013-168 with thank-you letter was then put, and
unanimously carried.
Chair Furfaro: Clerk, on C 2013-169 I wanted to defer until
we get ready to go to Executive Session.
LEGAL DOCUMENT:
C 2013-170 Communication (04/10/2013) from the Mayor, recommending for
Council approval, the following: Dedication Deed by Peter F. Fisher, Trustee under
that certain Declaration of Trust known as the Peter F. Fisher Trust dated
April 24, 2006, and as Successor Trustee under that certain Declaration of Trust
known as the Elizabeth A. Fisher-Lavoie Trust dated April 24, 2006, conveying to
the County of Kaua`i Lot 55-A-1, Wailua Houselots, Fourth Series, Wailua,
Kawaihau, Kaua`i, Hawai`i, for road widening purposes: Ms. Yukimura moved to
approve C 2013-170, seconded by Mr. Hooser.
Chair Furfaro: Councilmembers, communicating a message
here. Mr. Rapozo, you have the floor.
Mr. Rapozo: Normally, when we get these requests that
come over, there is a reason other than road widening. Do we know what this is
actually for?
Chair Furfaro: I actually think a while back we had a
presentation on this.
Mr. Rapozo: Really?
Chair Furfaro: I may be mistaken.
Mr. Rapozo: This is right there by the Wastewater
Treatment Plant. I went through these documents and there is no purpose other
than for road widening, unless someone knows?
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Chair Furfaro: Excuse me, to the County Attorney, Amy, are
you able to expand on this for a little bit for us? This is the Dedication Deed for
some additional land near the Wastewater Treatment Lift Station.
Ms. Esaki: I think the only thing that is stated on the
Communication is for road widening. I do not see anything in the Deed itself, as far
as the purposes.
Chair Furfaro: Okay.
Ms. Esaki: If you do not mind, I can call Ian Jung who
worked on this Deed.
Chair Furfaro: I think it might be good to do that.
Ms. Esaki: Okay.
Chair Furfaro: Let me see if we have a question for you, and
then you can call him and we can come back to this item.
Ms. Yukimura: My impression is that we often get
dedications for road widening, especially when they subdivide. Sometimes that is
where the Planning Commission requires dedication of some land. I do not mind
finding out more details. My impression is that they come through quite regularly.
Mr. Rapozo: I agree, JoAnn. Typically, it explains why.
Typically, the cover letter from the Administration will say why and what the need
is. Is it a subdivision? I know this one says that it is required through a 2008
Variance Permit. I feel uncomfortable supporting anything without a—it is for road
widening but what is the road widening for? Is it a favor? I do not know. That is
all I am saying.
Ms. Yukimura: Okay.
Ms. Nakamura: I think that further explanation would be
helpful. I can see that the road is widened further up the road. I can see maybe the
Department of Public Works wants to just continue that widening further down. I
think it is helpful to understand what their plan is for Haleilio Road. What purpose
will this serve? Do they have any short or long-term plans to make the
improvements? Maybe it is to make it a complete street. It would be good to know
the context in which this is being proposed.
Ms. Esaki: I can check and report back.
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Chair Furfaro: I just sent Jade to do that.
Ms. Esaki: Okay.
Chair Furfaro: We are going to just come back to this item.
Ms. Esaki: Okay, great.
Chair Furfaro: Let me see if there are any more questions
for you.
Ms. Esaki: It does show within the map the area that is
being widened and it is highlighted in yellow.
Chair Furfaro: Yes, but I am going to have someone come
over.
Ms. Esaki: Sure. Thank you.
Mr. Rapozo: I see the map, Amy, and it is on the lot at the
junction of Haleilio and Apana. I live up in the House Lots and the other section
below that, the one that runs alongside the plant?
Ms. Esaki: Yes.
Mr. Rapozo: That is the problem there. That is why I was
just curious of why we are only doing it for that private lot. They are going to
dedicate and rewiden that, but what about next road which is the junction at Kuhio
and Haleilio? That is where the backlog is, right on the outside. It looks like the
applicant is Kayak Wailua. I am not sure what they have planned. Is that for
commercial? Is that going to be a parking lot? Anyway, I have a lot of questions.
Ms. Esaki: Okay. We will find out.
Mr. Rapozo: Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: We are fine for now. Obviously, that also
connects to the old road that service the Coco Palms maintenance yard. We will
leave it at that for now. May I ask the Clerk to go back to C 2013-169? I believe
that even though I posted in Executive Session, everybody has an understanding of
this request on C 2013-169.
COUNCIL MEETING 10 APRIL 24, 2013
COMMUNICATIONS:
C 2013-169 Communication (04/17/2013) from the County Attorney,
requesting Council approval to expend funds up to $15,000 for special counsel's
continued services to advise and represent the County Council in matters relating
to the investigations of personnel matters involving the County Auditor's Office,
and related matters: Mr. Kagawa moved to approve C 2013-169, seconded by
Mr. Rapozo, and unanimously carried.
Chair Furfaro: We can disregard the Executive Session. We
will come back to C 2013-170. Let us go to Claims.
CLAIM:
C 2013-171 Communication (04/08/2013) from the Deputy County Clerk,
transmitting a claim filed against the County of Kauai by Harold Ames, for
damages to his vehicle, pursuant to Section 23.06, Charter of the County of Kaua`i:
Mr. Rapozo moved to refer C 2013-171 to the County Attorney's Office for
disposition and/or report back to the Council, seconded by Ms. Yukimura, and
unanimously carried.
COMMITTEE REPORTS:
PLANNING COMMITTEE:
A report (No. CR-PL 2013-02) submitted by the Planning Committee,
recommending that the following be received for the record:
"PL 2013-01 Communication (03/22/2013) from Committee Chair
Nakamura, requesting the presence of the Planning Department to provide
an overview on the County of Kaua`i's Six—Year Capital Improvement
Projects Fiscal Year 2013-2014 to Fiscal Year 2018-2019 Report,"
Mr. Rapozo moved for approval of the report, seconded by Ms. Yukimura, and
unanimously carried.
A report (No. CR-PL 2013-03) submitted by the Planning Committee,
recommending that the following be approved on second and final reading:
"Bill No. 2469 A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE
GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION FOR THAT CERTAIN AREA LOCATED
IN PUHI, KAUAI, HAWAII AND IDENTIFIED AS TAX MAP KEY NO. (4)
3-8-002:016. (Island School, Applicant),"
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Mr. Rapozo moved for approval of the report, seconded by Ms. Yukimura, and
unanimously carried. (See later for Bill No. 2469).
HOUSING & TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE:
A report (No. CR-HT 2013-01) submitted by the Housing & Transportation
Committee, recommending that the following be received for the record:
"HT 2013-01 Communication (03/13/2013) from Committee Chair
Yukimura, requesting the presence of Mayela Sosa, Assistant Division
Administrator, United States Department of Transportation —Federal
Highway Administration, to provide an overview on the Moving Ahead for
Progress in the 21st Century Act (MAP-21) that was signed into law by
President Barack Obama on July 6, 2012,"
Ms. Yukimura moved for approval of the report, seconded by Mr. Hooser, and
unanimously carried.
A report (No. CR-HT 2013-02) submitted by the Housing & Transportation
Committee, recommending that the following be received for the record:
"HT 2013-02 Communication (03/27/2013) from Committee Chair
Yukimura, requesting agenda time to share a full—page feature story on the
Ke Ala Hele Makalae Multi-Use Path that appeared in the March 9, 2013,
edition of The Seattle Times Travel Section, as it relates to highlighting the
value of the path for Kaua`i residents and the visitor industry,"
Ms. Yukimura moved for approval of the report, seconded by Mr. Hooser, and
unanimously carried.
FINANCE & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (TOURISM / VISITOR INDUSTRY /
SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT / SPORTS & RECREATION
DEVELOPMENT / OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREAS) COMMITTEE:
A report (No. CR-FED 2013-07) submitted by the Finance & Economic
Development (Tourism / Visitor Industry / Small Business Development / Sports &
Recreation Development / Other Economic Development Areas) Committee,
recommending that the following be approved as amended on second and final
reading:
"Bill No. 2467 A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER
5A, KAUAI COUNTY CODE 1987, AS AMENDED RELATING TO REAL
PROPERTY TAX,"
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Mr. Rapozo moved for approval of the report, seconded by Ms. Nakamura,
and unanimously carried. (See later for Bill No. 2467, Draft 1).
A report (No. CR-FED 2013-08) submitted by the Finance & Economic
Development (Tourism / Visitor Industry / Small Business Development / Sports &
Recreation Development / Other Economic Development Areas) Committee,
recommending that the following be approved on second and final reading:
"Bill No. 2468 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE
NO. B-2012-736, AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE OPERATING
BUDGET OF THE COUNTY OF KAUAI, STATE OF HAWAII, FOR THE
FISCAL YEAR JULY 1, 2012 THROUGH JUNE 30, 2013, BY REVISING
THE AMOUNTS ESTIMATED IN THE GENERAL FUND AND THE SOLID
WASTE FUND,"
Mr. Rapozo moved for approval of the report, seconded by Ms. Nakamura,
and unanimously carried. (See later for Bill No. 2468).
BILLS FOR SECOND READING:
BILL NO. 2460, Draft 1 – A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE
AMENDING CHAPTER 12, OF THE KAUAI COUNTY CODE 1987, AS AMENDED,
ENTITLED "BUILDING CODE": Mr. Bynum moved for adoption of Bill No. 2460,
Draft 1, on second and final reading, and that it be transmitted to the Mayor for his
approval, seconded by Mr. Kagawa.
Chair Furfaro: Is there anyone in the audience who wants to
offer testimony for this? If not, Mr. Hooser.
Mr. Hooser: This Bill—the underlying Legislation from
the State will likely change.
Chair Furfaro: I understand they had public hearing
yesterday but they rescheduled it?
Mr. Hooser: Right. They have had conference meetings
all week. It has the conference draft as it stands right now and passing the law
would eliminate the need to pass this Legislation, not necessarily for the better in
terms of the County perspective but it would eliminate the need. Basically, the
State would just simply make a law and not ask the County to do anything at all.
They are just saying this is what it is. The parameters of that could likely be
different from what we are voting on today.
Chair Furfaro: We should defer it for two (2) weeks?
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Mr. Hooser: I would suggest deferring it because for two
(2) weeks, we will know whether the Bill is alive or dead and we can act accordingly.
Chair Furfaro: Before I take that motion, I am going to
allow extended discussion.
Mr. Hooser: I just have a little follow-up. I have been
following this Bill closely. There is good news and bad news. At one time, when it
was the way we would have preferred it, it would have given the County's
discretion. That is the first House Draft. I spoke to the Chair and she agreed and
amended the Bill to say "the Counties may put this list together to exempt various
structures." The second House Draft came back where half of it was "may" and half
of it was "shall." It got convoluted. Now they are in conference and they are
considering other changes. I believe at the end of the day, they will pass it
requiring these exemptions but not requiring any action by the Counties because for
a variety of reasons. Hopefully, they are going to carve out I believe, provisions for
hazardous, pesticide use, and that kind of thing. Those would not be allowed to be
built. Structures, housing, and pesticides, and hazardous materials would not be
exempt from the Building Permitting Code. That is what I am hopeful, but we will
know in two (2) weeks.
Chair Furfaro: Okay.
Mr. Bynum: I just wanted to add to this for the sake of
the public. Last year, the Legislature passed the Bill that required the County to
exempt certain structures on Ag Land from Building Permits. This Legislation
before us recognizes that, but asks people, "Okay, you do not have to apply for a
permit but to build this structure, then assure us that it was built to the Building
Code measures." Now this Legislation who Senator Hooser is referring to is a
follow-up Legislation that says "not only do you not need a permit, but you do not
have to build with the code. You do not have to demonstrate that it is code." I have
very serious concerns about that on two (2) levels. One is just a home rule issue.
These are issues that are traditionally left to the Counties, but we went through
two (2) hurricanes. I was involved in one of those. This Bill would allow the
construction of some very large ag structures like greenhouses and then not even
require that they be built to code. In the case of a hurricane, we can have very large
wind blow debris. This is a health and safety matter for the County. The health
and safety of citizens related to these types of projects are the County's role. I have
testified against this Bill. I was in O`ahu yesterday speaking to one of the Senators
involved in this, hoping to preserve the County's right and responsibility to make
sure that we have safety for our citizens. I want to acknowledge
Councilmember/Senator Hooser for his real close involvement with this Bill to give
us the best shot. It is another example of where the State is saying, "In our infinite
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wisdom, we know more about Kauai than you do. We are going to exempt you from
the powers that are traditionally yours." That is very uncomfortable.
Chair Furfaro: I want to remind everybody that Mr. Hooser
has been tracking this for us as this has been getting its deviations and his
recommendation at this point is a two (2) week deferral. Mr. Kagawa, you have the
floor.
Mr. Kagawa: Yes, real quick. I would like to thank both
Councilmembers Hooser and Bynum for their attention to this Bill. I hate to have
an "us versus them" picture regarding ag structures. I think the State is hearing a
lot of what the ag people would want; however, sometimes it comes at the cost of us
and taking care of our responsibility. I want to thank Councilmembers for keeping
that in mind. We had a recent tragedy in Texas where we still do not know why the
explosion happened. It had to do with the storage of fertilizers and chemicals I
believe. I surely do not want that kind of accident happening here on our island.
We want to ensure that when we have structures that are built holding these items
that it is done in a safe manner and not close in proximity to our residents. Thank
you.
Mr. Hooser: Just very briefly, that was a good example
that Councilmember Kagawa lays just now. I just wanted to add that every County
was submitting testimony opposing the manner in which this was being proposed.
The Director of the Department of Agriculture, Russell Kokubun, also submitted
testimony recommending they defer the Counties. Unfortunately, that message has
not gotten across. Often times, I am checking my messages here and I step out. I
am tracking the Legislation. I believe it was last week when the second House
Committee heard it. There was literally five (5) minutes notification. I am on the
electronic notification. I got a notification on my phone during a meeting, checked
it, and it said that the meeting was in fifteen (15) minutes. This was public notice
and it is fairly outrageous. I stepped out of the meeting. I called the Office of that
particular committee and expressed my concerns. I just wished that they would—
some of these Chairpersons need to have more concern for neighbor island people
particularly, but the public in general. I am trying to get that message across in an
appropriate manner also. Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: I agree with that, especially when you have
people like yourself who served on the Council—the Agriculture Director,
Mr. Kokubun, who was Senator and before that he was on the Hawai`i Island
Council. They have t h o sensitivity to this specific County need. If there is no
further discussion, I am going to let Mr. Hooser make the motion for the deferral.
Mr. Hooser moved to defer Bill No. 2460, Draft 1, seconded by Ms. Yukimura.
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Chair Furfaro: No discussion on a deferral. Mr. Mickens,
can you hold on for just a second here. JoAnn, may I ask you to remove your second
for right now.
Ms. Yukimura: Sure.
Ms. Yukimura withdrew her second from Mr. Hooser's motion to defer
Bill No. 2460, Draft 1.
Chair Furfaro: Okay. Sorry about that, Glenn.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
GLENN MICKENS: Thank you, Jay. I just want to compliment
Gary for staying on top of this thing. I agree with him one hundred percent (100%)
that there is no reason to eliminate code for the Building Code. It is a safety issue.
What would be the rationale for the Legislature pushing to have this thing to
eliminate such a thing? Is it to give more breaks to the farmers and ag people? I
presume that, which is great because they need all the help they can possibly get
but they certainly should not have to eliminate the Building Code, especially as Tim
has pointed out that it is a huge safety issue. I just want to thank Gary for staying
on top of this thing and making sure that it is done properly. Do you think the
direction they are going at this stage of the game is pro or con?
Chair Furfaro: Actually, you have to address that to me but
if Mr. Hooser chooses to answer then I will give him the time. Go ahead.
Mr. Hooser: I believe it will be improved somewhat if
they carve out the storage of hazardous and pesticide materials, which the last draft
had and kind of carved out some of it but not totally. If that happens, it will be a
good thing. It would be better than it was before from that perspective. It would be
worse because it is now the code and not just the permit. The intent is, yes, to help
small farmers. I think we recognized that but there needs to be discretion for the
nature and location of the activity. I do not want to go any further. Thank you.
Mr. Mickens: Thank you, Gary.
Chair Furfaro: Hold on a second, Glenn.
Mr. Bynum: I just want to say the original concept was to
make it easier for farmers to do typical ag structures that are relatively minor
without cumbersome regulations. The County is saying, "Okay, here are the ones
that we think can just through without code or permit. Here are the ones where we
still think has a safety issue." For small farmers, this will be a good thing but there
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are also larger ag businesses that has a pattern over the last few years of trying to
exempt Counties from their traditional roles, just so that they do not have to mess
with us I think. If the Counties were allowed to implement this, we would give the
break to small farmers and give the break where it was really needed without doing
a blanket thing that would allow large structures to be built without even assuring
the County that they were built to the Building Code. It is like "we are not going to
let houses without hurricane clips but we are going to let these get built and we will
not even know how they were built and what structures." It is pretty scary to me.
Chair Furfaro: There are no more questions, Glenn. They
had the floor and you gave your testimony. I went tout of my way to lift the second
Y g Y Y Y Y
for you as a personal courtesy of the Chair.
Mr. Mickens: I appreciate it.
Chair Furfaro: Mr. Kagawa, you have something for him.
Mr. Kagawa: Actually, Mr. Chair, I am sorry. I do not
have anything for Mr. Mickens. I just had a personal request if you could consider
after we finish with this item and move to our last Bill for Second Reading and get
the Island School Bill out of the way, since we are moving fast. I believe we had
unanimous support at the Committee.
Chair Furfaro: That sounds doable. I will fulfill your
request.
Mr. Kagawa: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Chair Furfaro: We have no more questions for you, Glenn.
Mr. Mickens: Thank you, Jay.
The meeting was called back to order, and proceeded as follows:
Chair Furfaro: Thank you very much. JoAnn, I will let you
do your second on the deferral now, please.
The motion to defer Bill No. 2460, Draft 1, was then put, and unanimously
carried.
Chair Furfaro: We are going to go a little bit out of order
here. I want to do Island School first, and then I have Mr. Ian Jung for the
conditions dealing with Haleilio Road. Let us go to Island School first.
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There being no objection, Bill No. 2469 was taken out of the order.
BILL NO. 2469 – A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE
GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION FOR THAT CERTAIN AREA LOCATED IN
PUHI, KAUAI, HAWAII AND IDENTIFIED AS TAX MAP
KEY NO. (4) 3-8-002:016. (Island School, Applicant): Ms. Nakamura moved for
adoption of Bill No. 2469, on second and final reading, and that it be transmitted to
the Mayor for his approval, seconded by Ms. Yukimura.
Chair Furfaro: Members, are there any questions for the
applicant? None, okay.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
Chair Furfaro: Is there anyone in the audience who wants to
speak on this? Seeing none, I will call the meeting back to order.
The meeting was called back to order, and proceeded as follows:
Chair Furfaro: Members?
Mr. Kagawa: I would like to thank the applicant, Island
School. I want to support them and wish them well as they try to expand their
facilities and their options for their students. We are coming to a time where we are
seeing a lot of success outside of the normal Department of Education (DOE). We are
seeing Charter Schools do well and also Hawaiian Emergent type classes. There are a
lot more options than when we were growing up. Island School is definitely—if you
have the money or if you can qualify for scholarships, it offers an excellent education.
We have seen numerous students succeed and do very well. I have a friend whose
daughter is doing well and attending one of the top engineering schools in the
mainland. She went through Island School. That is just another example of providing
excellent options for our young students. Thank you.
Ms. Yukimura: I second that in terms of Island School being a
real asset to the community. One of the things that impressed me was the planning
and the way that they have planned their campus, and their expansion that
coordinated with their curriculum. I think this is a really good thing to support.
Thank you.
The motion for adoption of Bill No. 2469 on second and final reading, and that
it be transmitted to the Mayor for his approval was then put, and carried by the
following vote:
FOR ADOPTION: Bynum, Hooser, Kagawa, Nakamura,
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Rapozo, Yukimura, Furfaro TOTAL— 7,
AGAINST ADOPTION: None TOTAL—0,
EXCUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0,
RECUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0.
Chair Furfaro: Now I want to go back. We have an attorney
here. Mr. Jung, can you please come up. We are going back to the item dealing with
Haleilio Road and the Deed portion. I am sorry it is taking me a long time to look at
this, but I do not see anything that really says that this is a communication as it was a
condition from Planning. Am I correct?
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
IAN K. JUNG, Deputy County Attorney: Good morning, Chair and
Members of the Council. Deputy County Attorney, Ian Jung. That is correct. I
apologize, I do not have the specific condition with me but I do recall this project going
through. I know it is a Use Permit, Class IV Zoning Permit, and Variance Permit for
a staging area for Mr. Fisher's business to bring the kayaking company participants to
Wailua River. As a part of that condition, there is a request from the Department of
Public Works to have a road widening area set aside for future expansion of Haleilio
Road.
Chair Furfaro: Okay. Carrot juice does great things for you,
especially with you memory and so on. I would like to make a personal request that
again, something references in the correspondence from the Planning Department,
and not that some of us became familiar with is because we saw it on the Planning
channel. You have to help us with our memory. I am sixty-four (64) years old.
Mr. Jung: I understand, Chair. Unfortunately, I did not
work on this transmittal to you but for a future note with all the transmittals that I
do, I will note whether or not it is part of a condition or what the actual grounds for
the dedication are.
Chair Furfaro: Young man, that would be much appreciated.
Are there any q uestions for Mr. Jung? We will start with Councilmember Yukimura.
Ms. Yukimura: Ian, it is part of the regular practice of the
Planning Department when they do have rezoning or Use Permits or those kinds of
things, to circulate the application and the agencies like Highways, Public Works, or
Roads, and at that point, as a condition or recommend a condition of approval for
things like road widening.
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Mr. Jung: Right. When the Planning Department does
their 360 Review, all the affective agencies get blasted out for commentary on a
project.
Ms. Yukimura: Right.
Mr. Jung: In this case, I believe the comments came
back to look at road widening and the developer's authorized representative was
willing to dedicate this land over as part of that comment from the Department of
Public Works.
Ms. Yukimura: But it would only be as referenced to the
parcel in the application?
Mr. Jung: Right. I think with the parcel to the East,
makai of Apana Road, is the Coco Palms parcel so there are some plans already in
place when they were looking at the traffic mitigation impact and how to address
through that parcel as well. It is sort of a future planning mechanism that we dealt
with when Lot 55 came in for their permit request. They are anticipating the future
growth down the line.
Ms. Yukimura: In other words, hopefully we have a plan for
the road eventually to be widened and then as parcels come in for rezoning, we ask for
that portion of the plan.
Mr. Jung: Exactly.
Ms. Yukimura: Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Rapozo: Thank you, Ian, for coming by. You
mentioned that they are going to be using this for staging?
Mr. Jung: I do not have the application before me but on
the way over here, I was speaking with the authorized representative. From what I
recall, they are going to have the participants in the kayaking operations come and
park there in that parcel...
Mr. Rapozo: On the County road?
Mr. Jung: No, in the lot.
Mr. Rapozo: Okay.
Mr. Jung: In Lot 55, if you look at Exhibit A.
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Mr. Rapozo: I believe there are some homes on there now?
Mr. Jung: Right. They also got the Use Permit and
Class IV Zoning Permit to allow for the parking to be there so that the business can
then shuttle its participants over to Wailua River, drop them off, and then come back.
Mr. Rapozo: The staging will be in Lot 55 and not on this
dedicated portion?
Mr. Jung: Correct.
Mr. Rapozo: Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Jung: If you drive by, you will see how the fence is
set back a distance from the roadway there. That is a new lot that was created, Lot
55-A-1, which if you guys approve this, will be the County lot.
Mr. Rapozo: Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: Mr. Jung, it is always nice to see you instead
of just on the camera and so forth, and interacting with the Council on questions. If
you can give us a little more information along the lines, it would be most helpful.
Mr. Jung: Sure. I apologize, I do not have my suit on but
I ran over once I heard my name.
Chair Furfaro: To know that you ran over because the
Council Chair called is very impressive. Have a good day.
Mr. Jung: Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: Is there any commentary on this?
Mr. Mickens, come up.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
Mr. Mickens: Thank you, Jay. For the record, Glenn
Mickens. I would only suggest that as long as they are widening this road that it is
going to be done properly. I know it is an old road which may not be up to standards.
Is the County going to do this job?
Chair Furfaro: It will be kind of as needed incremental
improvements, so I guess that is yet to be fully determined.
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Mr. Mickens: Again, before we just jump into it and go
ahead and widen the road and have a little section that is proper, it needs a swale
which has been another complaint. They should put the swale like five (5) feet or
something from the edge of the road so the water will run there and not run down the
asphalt. It undermines and the thing collapses. All of our roads need that being done.
In this particular thing, as long as we are going to do it, I am just suggesting that
maybe it should be done properly completed. If the rest of the road is bad, you are
going to take a new section and widen the thing. Now that is only going to be the good
section of the road if it is done properly. Let us go ahead, look at the rest of it, and do
the whole project properly. That is all.
Chair Furfaro: Thank you, Glenn. This is the first step that I
think you would agree. If we do not have the land, we cannot put any road on top of it
so this is conveying the Deed for the land.
Mr. Mickens: Right. In the next step then, let us see that it
is done right. Thank you, Jay.
Chair Furfaro: Well taken. Come right up, Joe.
JOE ROSA: Good morning, members of the Council. For
the record, Joe Rosa. I have not seen a plan or anything of that there, but I noticed
that the kayak boating uses Apana Road. That is right in the back of the lot of that
treatment plant when you come in. Apana Road is the first road when you are going
in on your left. I know there were vacant lots and right now, there are a couple on
houses in there. That used to be in a flood zone area. That is why the canal is right in
the back of that too. If and when the time comes, Planning should look into no access
from Haleilio Road but make access on Apana Road. That would be less hazardous for
cars coming out or stopping top turn into that lot there. They could go more so into
Apana Road and turn off into that lot. That is something to look into for a safety
factor. I hate to say it, but a lot of times I used to tell the Engineers that is common
sense. "Do not put it on the main drag because it is going to delay traffic on the main
drag." If you got a road like Apana Road, utilize that road and put the approach in
that road and let them come out to Haleilio Road. That is my comment on that there
as a safety factor. Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: Thank you. I will put those notes and
concerns in my correspondence that goes back to the Administration in our weekly
meeting.
Mr. Rosa: Thank you. A lot of times, it is the safety that
is overlooked. I always look for that because when I was in the Department of
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Transportation (DOT), I was a member with the Occupational Safety and Health
Administration (OSHA) Committee. Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: So noted.
The meeting was called back to order, and proceeded as follows:
The motion to approve C 2013-170 was then put, and unanimously carried.
BILL NO. 2467, Draft 1 — A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDING
CHAPTER 5A, KAUAI COUNTY CODE 1987, AS AMENDED RELATING TO
REAL PROPERTY TAX: Mr. Rapozo moved for adoption of Bill No. 2467, Draft 1,
on second and final reading, and that it be transmitted to the Mayor for his
approval, seconded by Ms. Yukimura.
Ms. Yukimura: Chair, I need a ten (10) minute recess on this
if possible.
Chair Furfaro: Okay. We are going to take a ten (10)
minute recess.
There being no objections, the meeting was recessed at 10:36 a.m.
The meeting reconvened at 10:47 a.m., and proceeded as follows:
Chair Furfaro: We are back from recess. Mr. Clerk, what
item did we have on there?
RICKY WATANABE, County Clerk: We are on Bill No. 2467, Draft 1. A
motion and a second has been made to approve.
Chair Furfaro: It was requested to have a recess. I assume
that is for an amendment.
Ms. Yukimura: Yes. Council Vice Chair has the amendment.
Ms. Nakamura: Thank you. We received a communication
from the Real Property Tax Division asking for some further amendments to clarify
when the credit is available and what year the credit would be applied. The
amendment clarifies this. Again, it reiterates what the gross income threshold is
this year. I think with these clarifications they are more comfortable with moving
forward.
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Ms. Nakamura moved to amend Bill No. 2467, Draft 1 as circulated, as
shown in the Floor Amendment which is attached hereto as Attachment 1,
seconded by Ms. Yukimura.
Chair Furfaro: Would any member like the floor to discuss
the amendment any further?
Ms. Yukimura: I want to thank Vice Chair for preparing this
amendment. It mainly clarifies and does not change the intent of the Bill. That is
very helpful. I support the amendment and I hope the Council will too.
Chair Furfaro: Any further discussion on the amendment?
Mr. Rapozo: I have a question. Are there still
outstanding tax payments for 2013? I believe the 2013 tax payments are done. I do
not know. I am asking.
Ms. Yukimura: Actually, I had that question too. The taxes
were imposed this year. They were billed—we have been told by Real Property that
they are being billed in July and in February coming up. The assessments were
done and the calculation of taxes was done.
Ms. Nakamura: They want to catch it in July.
Mr. Rapozo: They are going to do it in the second half of
the tax billing of the 2013 tax year which is actually in 2014?
Ms. Yukimura: Right. That is how it was explained to us.
Mr. Rapozo: Okay. That is fine. If it came from them, I
am sure they know what they are doing. Thanks.
Ms. Yukimura: Yes. That is why I wanted the recess too,
actually. Okay.
Chair Furfaro: There is a motion on the amendment. I am
going to do a roll call on the amendment.
The motion to amend Bill No. 2467, Draft 1 as circulated was then put, and
carried by the following vote:
FOR AMENDMENT: Bynum, Hooser, Kagawa, Nakamura,
Rapozo, Yukimura TOTAL — 6,
AGAINST AMENDMENT: None TOTAL— 0,
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EXCUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0,
RECUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0,
SILENT: Furfaro TOTAL— 1.
Chair Furfaro: We will go back to the main motion as
amended now. Is there any further discussion?
Mr. Kagawa: Since we have millions watchin g,
the main
thing to note is that once this Bill passes, you have forty-five (45) days to submit
your exemption request or credit request. The key is to have a gross income
threshold of sixty thousand two hundred dollars ($60,200) or less. I want to thank
Councilmembers Yukimura and Nakamura. Like I said before at Committee, I am
in support of giving those that need it the most for the exemption. Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: Okay. Any further discussion?
Ms. Yukimura: Thank you. As Councilmember Kagawa has
pointed out, this is an opportunity for people who miss the deadline for the low
income exemption to apply. It is limited and it is targeted for those who are most
needy. The income level at sixty thousand two hundred dollars ($60,200) or less
and forty-five (45) more days to apply, so people need to go to the Real Property Tax
Office as soon as possible. Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: Is there any further discussion? I am going
to suspend the rules before we vote on the Bill as amended. Is there any public
testimony?
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
Chair Furfaro: Okay, there is none. I will call the meeting
back to order.
The meeting was called back to order and proceeded as follows:
Chair Furfaro: We are going to do a roll call vote please.
The motion for adoption of Bill No. 2467, Draft 1 as amended to
Bill No. 2467, Draft 2 on second and final reading, and that it be transmitted
to the Mayor for his approval was then put, and carried by the following
vote:
FOR ADOPTION: Bynum, Hooser, Kagawa, Nakamura,
Rapozo, Yukimura TOTAL — 6,
AGAINST ADOPTION: None TOTAL — 0,
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EXCUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0,
RECUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0,
SILENT: Furfaro TOTAL— 1.
Chair Furfaro: I would like to say that I am going to vote
silent for a very specific reason. I think touching on moving deadlines is very difficult
for me. I want these minutes to show that I support the rationale on those deserving,
but I am concerned with the fact that we begun moving deadlines. Therefore, my vote
will be silent but it will be counted with the majority. Let us go to the next item.
BILL NO. 2468 — AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE
NO. B-2012-736, AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE OPERATING BUDGET OF
THE COUNTY OF KAUAI, STATE OF HAWAII, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
JULY 1, 2012 THROUGH JUNE 30, 2013, BY REVISING THE AMOUNTS
ESTIMATED IN THE GENERAL FUND AND THE SOLID WASTE FUND:
Mr. Bynum moved for adoption of Bill No. 2468, on second and final reading, and
that it be transmitted to the Mayor for his approval, seconded by Mr. Rapozo.
Chair Furfaro: Is there any further discussion from the
members before I call for the public?
Mr. Kagawa: I saw a bit of confusion in Committee when I
mentioned that I am concerned about our accounting of these accounts and their
movement of moneys. It just hinges on the fact that we are being asked in this
fiscal to raise property taxes to fill a huge gap that the Administration is saying
that we are facing. They are saying that basically, if we do not raise taxes, we will
have no surplus or reserve to subsidize having more expenditures than revenues.
In the history of County Government, I cannot remember when we have not had a
quite substantial surplus. It is these accounting measures that I feel could be ways
of hiding surplus and later on, after approving the Budget, we are going to have
these surplus amounts come up. We will find out that when we were told we needed
to raise taxes to balance the Budget, which in fact, we did not need to do it. That is
why I made my comments. Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: Okay. Are there any additional comments
on this Bill? Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to testify?
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
Mr. Mickens: Thank you, Jay. For the record, Glenn
Mickens. I just wanted to make a comment. If we can do away with the waste in
this government, I do not think we are going to have to raise our taxes. Every time
we turn around, we find out more and more where we have spent money that we
should have spent. The bridges are the greatest example in the world. We spent
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twelve million dollars ($12,000,000) on a bridge that could have had it built for one
million dollars ($1,000,000). All of this money should be there but it is not there. It
is gone. I think the point is that if we can just do away with any part of this waste
like Ross is saying, the surplus is going to be there. Jay, I know that you have been
one of the biggest proponents on this. We have to have a slice on there in case of
hurricane.
Chair Furfaro: It called a reserve.
Mr. Mickens: Okay. Reserve. I like your terminology. We
have to have a reserve and now if the money as Ross is saying is gone, we are going
to have to give more money. Is that going to be raising our gas tax or property tax?
People are taxed to death now. They just cannot afford to keep on having these
things go up. Anyway, I just think that we should take a long, hard look. I do not
know where the enforcement mechanism is to see that this waste does not keep
happening because it goes on and on. I think that is going to have to be addressed
first. Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: Thank you. Anyone else wishes to testify? I
will call the meeting back to order.
The meeting was called back to order, and proceeded as follows:
Chair Furfaro: Does any members want to say anything?
Mr. Bynum: I just wanted to say in general that I have
been a critic over the last three (3) years about how the Administration has
proposed to us on managing the finances. However, since the new Finance Director
is there and they had to face the realities of this year's Budget, which are difficult; I
believe they are making changes in maneuvers to set us up for future stability as
opposed to these fluctuations that we have allowed to happen. There were years
where we generated huge surpluses and years where we are spending huge
surpluses. If we manage our finances correctly, there will not be big changes in that
Fund Balance, either up or down. I think with some of their new leadership, the
Finance Department understands that. We have got to get through this really
difficult period. There are proposals to raise taxes and fees this year, but that
comes on the cost of four (4) years of falling taxes for some categories of taxpayers.
Again, if we were managing, we would not have these big fluctuations. I think the
Finance Department and Mayor are trying to set-up our future budgets so we are
managing our fiscal house better. For that, I applaud them but that does not mean
that this is not going to be a difficult year. This is the year to get our house in order
to deal with anomalies in our finance system and tax system to make it fair and
sustainable, without big changes. Thank you.
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Mr. Rapozo: I just wanted to answer Mr. Micken's
question of who polices it. It is really us, the Council who has the final authority.
We get put in a very difficult position like today. This is three point two million
dollars ($3,200,000) that we are taking from the so called "Reserve Fund" to
subsidize the Solid Waste Fund because there is not enough money in Solid Waste.
I think what Mr. Kagawa said earlier makes a lot of sense. When we passed the
Budget last year, basically we look at a balanced Budget. Mr. Kagawa's concern is
that we are a year out from next year's Budget, and if we raise fourteen million
dollars ($14,000,000) worth of property taxes and fees, and come March/April of
next year and realizing, "Hey, maybe we did not really have to do that." We are
stuck here because Solid Waste needs the money. Mr. Chair, how much has been
transferred? Do you have that number available for this fiscal year from the so
called "Reserve?"
Chair Furfaro: I have it downstairs somewhere.
Mr. Rapozo: It is substantial.
Chair Furfaro: Yes, it is substantial.
Mr. Rapozo: It is substantial moneys that were in the so
called "Surplus" to accommodate the financial needs in various departments. That
is the dilemma we are in because we pass the Budget based on what we are told and
what we are provided based on estimates and projections. As you get to the end of
the year, realizing we do not have enough in these accounts, then we have to take
from the Reserve. Like Mr. Kagawa, I am very hesitant about raising fees and
taxes because I am maybe not as convinced that we need to at that level. Your
points are well taken Mr. Mickens. I appreciate your testimony but what can you
do. Our backs are against the wall and you have to approve this. Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: I want to say a couple of things because I do
not want there to be too many misgivings here. We are going through a Budget
process but on today's agenda, you will see that we are just accepting the financial
report for the eight (8) months of this year. What we are certainly missing here is
an understanding and they have had communication from me. We are required to
get a financial report in a reasonable time so that we can understand our cash
position. We just got the eight (8) month report. If we can stay current with that,
we can be watching the road map on our spending. We can see what we are
spending and what we are not? What is over budgeted and not programmed? What
is over budgeted and programmed because one requires a Money Bill, which is what
this is. We started the year and we were six (6) months into the year before we got
a financial report. There is nobody who can fly like that. If you take a car, you have
to be able to read the gas gage. You have to be able to read the oil light. That is
where it starts. My compliment is out now that we finally got the eighth report of
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what looks like nine (9) months into the year. I think Mr. Bynum gave them the
appropriate phrase for doing that. We have to be consistent about that folks. I
think Mr. Rapozo asked a very relevant question. "How much of the surplus have
we spent through Money Bills in the year, for the year?" Remember at that time,
we are not getting any financials so we are not clear on what the road map is. We
need to start understanding from some of the policies that I have asked to be
revisited and implemented. These things have to happen. The other thing I want
people to realize is those five (5) years ago, the property values on our island was
worth ninety-five million dollars ($95,000,000), and we taxed on ninety-five million
dollars ($95,000,000) worth of value. Those values are now at eighty-three million
dollars ($83,000,000). We have got a little over eleven million dollars ($11,000,000)
dropped in value. To keep up with what you actually pay, you have to raise the rate
to get us back where we were. I used to pay twenty-four hundred dollars ($2,400) a
year on my home. As my home value went down to five hundred five thousand
dollars (505,000), I am not paying seventeen hundred dollars ($1,700) for what I got
at the same services. I have a cap on my property because I was the author of that.
It is now at that point, that cap as Mr. Bynum has said, that was a temporary
action. Really, really make sure. You have got to measure the appraised value and
what you are paying in real dollars versus what your appraised value was, and you
are paying on a lower hourly rate; a thousand dollar rate. That is what we have to
understand. Am I actually paying more revenue? I have studied five (5) groups in
the County. I am not spending that much more on my property tax compared to
eight (8) years ago because my values have dropped so much. We have a choice.
Those choices are as we went through the Budget, I think people saw the action and
the questions and there was good back and forth dialogue. We are talking about
controlling expenses because we are on this roller coaster ride. Please note that.
There are some people who are going to be paying more for property taxes. There
are going to be some people who are going to be paying less. Overall in the last five
(5) year period, a lot of people are paying about the same, including the groups that
I studied like nurses, police officers, and school teachers; the Council as a group;
County employees as a group; those below the seventy thousand dollar ($70,000)
income bracket. There are those variables. To just say that we are raising taxes is
concerning to me. What we are doing is raising rates on lower values. For the
County, we have had more call for services which we will be hearing for today on
the bus service expansion and so on. We have lower values in the County. That is
one of the bigger problems and it is compounded by the fact that we go six (6)
months into the year, and we are not able to read a financial. The Administration is
making the improvements there. I want to make sure we understand that falling
values, increased services, and maintaining the level we have now; those are all the
variables that we need to keep track of. Now, we are being asked to add three point
two million dollars ($3,200,000) to a fund that we did not even know was falling
behind that far because we were not getting the financial reports. You have got to
be able to read a financial and you have to be able to read it so that it does not scare
you. We will be taking a lot of testimony on that. With this Money Bill, across the
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street has got to understand how valuable it is for us to have financial information
on a regular basis. I think myself and Ross, who has a finance degree—if you are
not able to read the balance sheet, you have no idea where you are at. I give my
compliments to the Administration. As of now, we are current in eight (8) months.
I want to make sure we all understand those moving parts because they are moving
parts. I guess we are going to vote now. We will do a roll call vote.
The motion for adoption of Bill No. 2468 on second and final reading, and
that it be transmitted to the Mayor for his approval was then put, and
carried by the following vote:
FOR APPROVAL: Bynum, Hooser, Kagawa, Nakamura,
Rapozo, Yukimura, Furfaro TOTAL — 7,
AGAINST APPROVAL: None TOTAL— 0,
EXCUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0,
RECUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL — 0.
Chair Furfaro: Let us send a reminder out, along with a
congratulations letter that we are current on the financials and we expect to be so
going forward. Thank you very much. I would like to go into some Executive
Sessions. Mr. Kagawa, go ahead.
Mr. Kagawa: I would like to ask for a personal privilege,
Mr. Chair. Today is Administrative and Professional's Day. I know it is reiterating,
but I really would like to thank the Staff. I have been here for almost five (5)
months. I have been more than pleased with the work of the Staff in assisting me
to do my due diligence and providing me with very timely assistance. Happy
Professional's Day to our Staff and to all of the Professional/Secretary staff on the
island of Kaua`i. Thank you very much for all that you do for our island.
Chair Furfaro: Okay. Anymore personal privileges before
we go into Executive Session?
Ms. Yukimura: I want to thank Councilmember Kagawa for
reminding all of us. In the throes of Budget, I have to admit that I was not even
aware that today is Administrative and Professional Assistant's Day. No doubt, our
Offices, the County, and the world probably would not work without those who staff
and enable our work. I think all of us want to say thank you to our Staff. We will
make plans to have a lunch sometime in the next couple of weeks. Especially
during Budget, it is so clear of the huge dedication and effort that goes into
supporting the Council as we do our work. Mahalo to all of our Staff.
Mr. Hooser: You have to get up awful early in the
morning to get ahead of Councilmember Kagawa. He is one up on us on this one. I
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also want to offer my aloha and mahalo to our Staff. I was here before in the
Council, spent years at the Senate, with the Governor's Office, and our Staff is good,
if not better, than all of the staffs I have worked with. I have been totally
impressed. I say that sincerely. There is professionalism, expertise, and a pleasant
attitude and nature of the people who work here in this building. I want to give a
special shout out to Lisa Watanabe because she is down there kind of alone. I see
her all of the time and she is right there helping with a lot of the work that I do on a
daily basis. Mahalo and thank you to everyone.
Chair Furfaro: Any other personal privileges?
Mr. Rapozo: Obviously, I echo the comment by my
colleagues. We used to do a big luncheon and get a table down at the Chamber. I
do not know who put that thing on. I do not know what happened. I guess we
forgot this year because maybe we are too involved in the Budget. I was surprised
this morning when my wife gave me a tray of butter mochi and said, "This is for
Administrative and Professional's Day." I said, "Oh my God, we did not even plan
lunch." We will get that done, Mr. Chair. I have been in Council Services many
years and this Staff has always performed well-above expectations. I do not know if
the public can really appreciate—Mr. Hooser talked about Lisa Watanabe. Lisa has
to service Gary, myself, Ross, and Nadine who are four (4) very different people. We
have different opinions and Lisa has to deal with that, as well as our Analysts and
our Legal Staff. They have to serve so many different bosses that it is difficult. I
cannot imagine doing that. I wanted to give a shout out to let them know that we
appreciate them and that we really appreciate what they do for us and for the
community. Thank you very much, Staff.
Ms. Nakamura: Working with Lisa Watanabe is Lisa
Ishibashi, who does a lot of scheduling for us. I really appreciate all of her work, as
well as all of the Staff around here. They are behind the scenes doing the work that
really makes this body move, having our meetings done every week, and
documenting it, and just keeping us moving forward. We truly appreciate all of
your hard work and dedication.
Chair Furfaro: I would just like to echo what I said early
this morning when some of you were not in the Office yet. For those of you that
were here, you heard my comments. This is a dedicated and very dynamic group
that we have here. Your work is much appreciated. Since they already committed
to what I committed to earlier this morning, we are planning to have some
get-together in the next ten (10) days. Thank you again. We are very, very lucky to
have you. May I ask the County Attorney to come up? For those of you in the
audience, the rest of our business today is focused on Executive Sessions. We will
be back at 1:30 p.m. for public hearings. We have eleven (11) of them today. We
have a full agenda after 1:30 p.m. Now, I would also like to note for ES-610 that I
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would like to defer, Amy. ES-619 and ES-620 is complete. Let us start with the
balance on the next page.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
EXECUTIVE SESSION:
Ms. Esaki: We have ES-621.
ES-621 Pursuant to Hawai`i Revised Statutes (HRS) Sections 92-4 and
92-5(a)(4) and (8); and Kaua`i County Charter Section 3.07(E), the Office of the
County Attorney, on behalf of the Council, requests an Executive Session with the
Council, to provide the Council with a briefing as it relates to the investigation of
personnel matters involving the Office of the County Auditor and related matters.
This briefing and consultation involves consideration of the powers, duties,
privileges, immunities and/or liabilities of the Council and the County as they relate
to this agenda item.
Ms. Esaki: ES-622.
ES-622 Pursuant to Hawai`i Revised Statutes (HRS) Sections 92-5(a)(4) and
Kaua`i County Charter Section 3.07(E), the purpose of this Executive Session is to
allow Council to consult with the County Attorney, Human Resources Manager, and
Director of Finance on questions and issues pertaining to car allowances and
related matters. This briefing and consultation involves consideration of the
powers, duties, privileges, immunities and/or liabilities of the Council and the
County as they relate to this agenda item.
Ms. Esaki: We have five (5) Executive Sessions with the
same posting so I will just read it one (1) time with the Executive Session numbers.
They are ES-623, ES-624, ES-625, ES-626, and ES-627.
ES-623 Pursuant to Hawai`i Revised Statutes (HRS) Sections 92-4 and
92-5(a)(4) and (8); and Kaua`i County Charter Section 3.07(E), the purpose of this
Executive Session is to consult with the Council's legal counsel to receive legal
updates, overviews, and recommendations for purposes of obtaining Council
approval of proposed settlement of a workers' compensation claim. This
deliberation and/or decision making involves matters that require the consideration
of information that must be kept confidential as, inter alia, it concerns significant
privacy interests. The significant privacy interests relate to a medical history,
diagnosis, condition, treatment, or evaluation, and which, pursuant to state or
federal law, including Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, are
protected from disclosure.
ES-624 Pursuant to Hawai`i Revised Statutes (HRS) Sections 92-4 and
92-5(a)(4) and (8); and Kaua`i County Charter Section 3.07(E), the purpose of this
Executive Session is to consult with the Council's legal counsel to receive legal
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updates, overviews, and recommendations for purposes of obtaining Council
approval of proposed settlement of a workers' compensation claim. This
deliberation and/or decision making involves matters that require the consideration
of information that must be kept confidential as, inter alia, it concerns significant
privacy interests. The significant privacy interests relate to a medical history,
diagnosis, condition, treatment, or evaluation, and which, pursuant to state or
federal law, including Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, are
protected from disclosure.
ES-625 Pursuant to Hawai`i Revised Statutes (HRS) Sections 92-4 and
92-5(a)(4) and (8); and Kauai County Charter Section 3.07(E), the purpose of this
Executive Session is to consult with the Council's legal counsel to receive legal
updates, overviews, and recommendations for purposes of obtaining Council
approval of proposed settlement of a workers' compensation claim. This
deliberation and/or decision making involves matters that require the consideration
of information that must be kept confidential as, inter alia, it concerns significant
privacy interests. The significant privacy interests relate to a medical history,
diagnosis, condition, treatment, or evaluation, and which, pursuant to state or
federal law, including Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, are
protected from disclosure.
ES-626 Pursuant to Hawai`i Revised Statutes (HRS) Sections 92-4 and
92-5(a)(4) and (8); and Kaua`i County Charter Section 3.07(E), the purpose of this
Executive Session is to consult with the Council's legal counsel to receive legal
updates, overviews, and recommendations for purposes of obtaining Council
approval of proposed settlement of a workers' compensation claim. This
deliberation and/or decision making involves matters that require the consideration
of information that must be kept confidential as, inter alia, it concerns significant
privacy interests. The significant privacy interests relate to a medical history,
diagnosis, condition, treatment, or evaluation, and which, pursuant to state or
federal law, including Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, are
protected from disclosure.
ES-627 Pursuant to Hawai`i Revised Statutes (HRS) Sections 92-4 and
92-5(a)(4) and (8); and Kaua`i County Charter Section 3.07(E), the purpose of this
Executive Session is to consult with the Council's legal counsel to receive legal
updates, overviews, and recommendations for purposes of obtaining Council
approval of proposed settlement of a workers compensation claim. This
deliberation and/or decision making involves matters that require the consideration
of information that must be kept confidential as, inter alia, it concerns significant
privacy interests. The significant privacy interests relate to a medical history,
diagnosis, condition, treatment, or evaluation, and which, pursuant to state or
federal law, including Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, are
protected from disclosure.
The meeting was called back to order, and proceeded as follows:
Chair Furfaro: Thank ou� Amy. I want to ask that ES-610
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be deferred.
Mr. Kagawa moved to defer ES-610 in open session, seconded by
Ms. Yukimura, and unanimously carried.
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Chair Furfaro: The next motions will go into a roll call vote
please.
Ms. Yukimura moved to convene in Executive Session for ES-622, ES-623,
ES-624, ES-625, ES-626, and ES-627, seconded by Mr. Kagawa, and carried
by the following vote:
FOR EXECUTIVE SESSIONS: Bynum, Hooser, Kagawa, Nakamura,
Rapozo, Yukimura, Furfaro TOTAL — 7,
AGAINST EXECUTIVE SESSIONS: None TOTAL— 0,
EXCUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0,
RECUSED& NOT VOTING: None TOTAL — 0.
Chair Furfaro: We are going to go into Executive Session and
then at 1:30 p.m., we are coming back on a number of public hearing items. Did I
miss something?
JADE K. FOUNTAIN-TANIGAWA, Deputy County Clerk: Yes. Chair
Furfaro, on ES-621, did you want to receive that now?
Chair Furfaro: Yes. I am sorry I missed that.
Mr. Rapozo moved to receive ES-621 for the record in open session, seconded
by Ms. Nakamura, and unanimously carried.
Chair Furfaro: Thank you very much.
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 11:19 a.m.
Res. ! • y submitted,
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ATTACHMENT 1
(April 24, 2013)
FLOOR AMENDMENT
Bill No. 2467, Draft 1, Relating to Real Property Tax
Introduced By: NADINE K. NAKAMURA, Councilmember
Amend Bill No. 2467, Draft 1, by amending Section 2 to read as follows:
"SECTION 2. Section 5A-11.4 of the Kaua`i County Code 1987, as
amended, is hereby amended by amending subsection (e) to read as follows:
"(e) Low Income Homeowner Credit.
(1) Upon proper application, a homeowner shall be entitled to a
credit equal to the difference between the real property tax assessed on the
homeowner property for the 2013 tax year and the real property tax that
would have been assessed if the homeowner applied for and was entitled to
the exemption in subsection (d), or $300.00, whichever is less. The credit
shall only be available to those homeowners who missed the deadline to apply
for the [credit] exemption in the 2013 tax year and shall be applied against
payments due for the [2014] 2013 tax year. No credit shall be applied if taxes
on the property are delinquent.
(2) No credit shall be granted pursuant to this section unless:
(A) an application as set forth in subsection (d)(4) is
submitted within forty five (45) days of enactment of this
ordinance,
(B) the homeowner meets all the criteria, including the 2013
gross income threshold of sixty thousand two hundred
dollars ($60,200.00), set forth in subsection (d) and
(C) the credit is approved by the Director.
(3) Credits granted pursuant to this section shall not be
transferable to other persons or properties.
(4) The Director may adopt rules and prescribe forms to implement
this section."
(Material to be deleted is bracketed. New material is underscored.)
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