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HomeMy WebLinkAbout 11/19/2013 Special Council Meeting Minutes SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING NOVEMBER 19, 2013 The Special Council Meeting of the Council of the County of Kaua`i was called to order by the Council Chair Jay Furfaro at the Council Chambers, 4396 Rice Street, Room 201, Lihu'e, Kaua'i, on Tuesday, November 19, 2013 at 9:11 a.m., after which the following members answered the call of the roll: Honorable Tim Bynum Honorable Mason K. Chock, Sr. Honorable Gary L. Hooser Honorable Ross Kagawa Honorable Mel Rapozo Honorable JoAnn A. Yukimura Honorable Jay Furfaro APPROVAL OF AGENDA. Mr. Kagawa moved for approval of the agenda as circulated, seconded by Ms. Yukimura, and unanimously carried. PUBLIC COMMENT. Pursuant to Council Rule 13(e), members of the public shall be allowed a total of eighteen (18) minutes on a first come, first served basis to speak on any agenda item. Each speaker shall be limited to three (3) minutes at the discretion of the Chair to discuss the agenda item and shall not be allowed additional time to speak during the meeting. This rule is designed to accommodate those who cannot be present throughout the meeting to speak when the agenda items are heard. After the conclusion of the eighteen (18) minutes, other members of the public shall be allowed to speak pursuant to Council Rule 12(e). Chair Furfaro: Seeing no one in the audience, I assume there is no public comment. On that note, I would like to go to Mr. Bynum. Mr. Bynum, would you just acknowledge (E) the Report of the Credentials Committee and who made up the Committee? REPORT OF THE CREDENTIALS COMMITTEE. Mr. Bynum: The Credentials Committee was made up of Council Chair Furfaro, me, and Councilmember Rapozo with assistance from the Staff. Mr. Bynum moved to receive the Credentials report as submitted by the Credentials Committee for the record, seconded by Mr. Rapozo, and unanimously carried. Chair Furfaro: Is everything in order? Mr. Bynum: Everything is order. SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 2 NOVEMBER 19, 2013 Chair Furfaro: I will submit this for the record. The next area that we are going to is the Appointment of the Vice Chair. I would like to first put some recommendations (which is attached hereto as Attachment A) on the board that come from myself. Do we have that on the board? This is for all the Committees as well. As I have shared the concept of these Committees and the Vice Chair, I would like to make special note in my recommendations that there is Councilmember Yukimura who I will be suggesting she Chair two (2) Committees — both Planning and Housing. Mr. Hooser: Chair? Could we have it passed around? I am having a hard time reading it on the board. Chair Furfaro: Okay. Again, these are just my recommendations. Go ahead, Mr. Bynum. Mr. Bynum: Mr. Chair, last time we did this, a similar process happened where basically you presented your concepts and ideas, which are fine. I also did a thoughtful thing and so I have a similar list with my ideas as well (which is attached hereto as Attachment B). Chair Furfaro: I will give you that time as well. Mr. Bynum: Okay. Chair Furfaro: JoAnn? Ms. Yukimura: Point of Order, I think we are off the agenda. Chair Furfaro: Point of Order, let us turn off the lights and go back to where we were. Obviously, I am not at a point where I can share my recommendations. Mr. Kagawa, you have the floor. Mr. Kagawa: If we are on the Appointment of Council Vice Chairperson... APPOINTMENT OF THE COUNCIL VICE CHAIRPERSON. Mr. Kagawa moved to nominate Mel Rapozo as Vice Chairperson of the Kaua`i County Council, seconded by Mr. Rapozo. Ms. Yukimura moved to nominate Mason K. Chock, Sr., as Vice Chairperson of the Kaua`i County Council, seconded by Mr. Hooser. Chair Furfaro: Thank you very much. We have two (2) nominees on the floor. I appreciate that. Are there any further nominees? I want you to know that it is my understanding from the Staff that Mason, in fact, turned down being the Chair of any Committee. I find this very awkward to find that you would move forward to nominate him for the Vice Chair. His justification for not being a Chair of a Committee was his lack of process understanding which I think is fair and honorable for him but the item on the table right now is that we have two (2) nominations. Mr. Hooser, you have the floor. Mr. Hooser: Is it appropriate time to speak to the nominations, Chair? SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 3 NOVEMBER 19, 2013 Chair Furfaro: Yes. Mr. Rapozo: Mr. Chair, we should probably close the nominations. Chair Furfaro: Are there any further nominations? Ms. Yukimura moved that the nominations of the Council Vice Chair of the Kaua`i County Council be closed, seconded by Mr. Rapozo, and unanimously carried. Mr. Hooser: It is always awkward voting in general when people are on different sides of the issues. It is always awkward, and when individual people are involved it becomes a little cumbersome. I regret that we did not have the opportunity to explore who might be interested and who might be suited. I have worked with Councilmember Rapozo and have great respect for him and every member of this body. Upon thinking about who would be the right person for the Vice Chair position given where we are at right now, I have come to the conclusion that it would be Councilmember Chock for many reasons. I think the Vice Chairmanship of the Council, as you certainly stated many times in the past, is an opportunity for mentorship, training, and to develop new leadership on this Council. I remember you making those statements when Councilmember Nakamura was put in the position and in looking toward the future where you and I are not going to be here, who is going to be here? Councilmember Chock represents that new leadership of the future in many respects. Most of us here with the exception of Councilmember Kagawa are old war horses, if you would, because we have been around for a long time. We need to groom, nurture, and mentor new leadership. Mr. Chock has demonstrated clearly by his composure and his presentation in the short time that he has been here that he has the capacity to step up. I see this as an opportunity to rise to the occasion. All of us do best when we are challenged a little bit and given the opportunity to rise to the occasion to step up to these leadership positions. I certainly think the Vice Chairmanship of the Council is an opportunity for him to do that and I would say in my opinion he would be the best person amongst all of us. We all bring certain things to the table. We all bring different characteristics, personality styles, values, and I believe he is in the right place at the right time where Council will be well served by his selection as Vice Chair. Chair Furfaro: You are all going to be timed with five (5) minutes and you did not use your five (5) minutes. Is there anything else you would like to say? Mr. Hooser: No. Chair Furfaro: Who else wanted the floor? Mr. Kagawa: Our job here is to be public servants. We are in the unique opportunity and privilege to serve the public based on the public's vote of confidence. While I concur that Mr. Chock has great credentials, the public has not elected him yet. This is a very unique opportunity and I believe that it would be better for us to give him a Chairmanship in a Committee before giving him the Vice Chair. I would be more inclined to support somebody on the Council who has been elected by the public. I think Councilmember Rapozo has been SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 4 NOVEMBER 19, 2013 waiting for an opportunity to serve in the leadership capacity of the Council. This is a great opportunity to give him that opportunity. I know Councilmember Yukimura has expressed some interest but like I said before, she has been Mayor — the leader of our County. She has had opportunities to be Vice Chair on the Council, she has served well but like Councilmember Hooser says, it is a good opportunity for the future, to give other Councilmembers here the opportunity to serve in that leadership capacity. Councilmember Rapozo has a great chance again to be another front runner for re-election next year and I think with that experience, he could possibly be a great replacement for Chair Furfaro in upcoming years. Again, I am willing to support Mason if he has the votes. My vote for Councilmember Rapozo is simply because I believe that as Councilmembers, we are elected by the public and we should pick somebody that has been elected by the public. Thank you. Chair Furfaro: Anyone else wishes to speak? Mr. Bynum: There are no simple decisions around here lately. I keep saying this because it really does give me a lot of comfort because there is a long public record of what peoples' positions are, how they serve the Council, and in what capacities. Councilmember Rapozo served as Vice Chair for quite some period of time during his political career and he has served with distinction. When Councilmember Kawakami first came on the Council, I questioned whether he should be Chairman of Intergovernmental Relations in that we had people with vast years of experience including our Chair working with the Legislature. I thought that experience was necessary yet he served really well in that capacity as did KipuKai Kuali`i following him. I have learned that is not the only reasons you get votes. I would also like to speak the truth. The truth is that the Chair laid the gauntlet down on the final vote of Bill No. 2491. It is a strategic tactical move which is perfectly appropriate, if he chooses to do that. I have no complaints, that is his choice, but this process could go a different way as well. My support for JoAnn Yukimura for Vice Chair in votes in the past and if she was asking for my support today, she would have it. I think turning to Mr. Chock as an alternative, rather than a showdown between these two (2) senior members is a really good idea. I happened to have a lot of personal experience working with Mr. Chock and I know the depth of his understanding in his capacity. I do not have any concerns about him not composing himself. I am going to support Mr. Chock not because of any deficiencies in Mel, but he has had that experience, leadership, and he has provided leadership in many areas of this Council over the years including Vice Chair in the past. Chair Furfaro: Anyone else wishes to speak? Ms. Yukimura: I want to say that I really respect Councilmember Rapozo as a worthy candidate and I am proud to have him as a colleague. As the same way that we had to choose between many qualified candidates for the seventh (7th) Council position, we each have to make a choice. To me, the Vice Chair position is not just a training position but it is actually a position of leadership. I think Mason Chock has that depth of leadership, understanding, and capability. I am happy to support him as Vice Chair. Chair Furfaro: Any further comments before I speak? Mr. Rapozo: Thank you for the nomination, Mr. Kagawa. Everyone has said that I have served as the Vice Chair and that I did that well but I guess not well enough because they are not comfortable with me serving as the Vice SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 5 NOVEMBER 19, 2013 Chair. I will tell you, Mr. Chair that I have served as the Vice Chair under former Chair Asing. For many years now I have served as the Hawai`i Association of Counties' (HSAC) President which is, to me, one of the most rewarding or I should say the most satisfying position because it is a unanimous vote of the State to represent this State at the National Association of Counties (NACo) to represent this State at the State Legislature every year. It is unanimous. If one (1) person in this State says, "no," you do not get that position. For years, I have done that and I proudly serve as the HSAC President. One of the things that the Vice Chair does is serve as the Chair in the absence of the Chair. No disrespect to Mr. Chock but I think I agree with Mr. Kagawa that a Committee Chairmanship would be appropriate for someone that has been on this seat now — forty-eight (48) hours...something like that. To say that we are going to train you by giving you the Vice Chair of the Council, I think is unfair for Mr. Chock. As much as I believe that he is a great leader, I have worked with Mr. Chock in his professional capacity for awhile but again, we have to try to put together the best team with the most experience in my opinion. As we go through some very tough times, I believe, I can serve in that capacity. Mr. Chair, I have served with you for many years, in fact, we both were elected at the same time. One of the things that I can honestly say is that I think I have shown you the utmost respect throughout the years as the Chair and I continue to do so. As Mr. Kagawa said, I hope the people did not take it wrong...I think what Mr. Kagawa was saying that eventually you will not run and you will term out and that there will be...of course I have aspirations of being the Chair but I have never served under you as the Vice Chair. That is something that I want to do. I do not know where the votes are going to fall. This is kind of a surprise to me because we all received an E-mail from Councilmember Yukimura that she said she was interested. I just got that this morning. So, I was not expecting this but the votes will fall where they fall and we will leave this room again and hopefully we can continue to work together. My commitment is to serve the best I can as the Vice Chair and as far as your experience, not only in the local level but the State level as well as the National level — I believe I am qualified. I would ask for your support Mr. Chair...this is difficult because I am looking at asking the person that is opposing me for his support which is not going to happen. I am in a pretty awkward position but like I said this is a democratic process and the votes will fall where they fall. I will respect the decision of this body. Chair Furfaro: Mr. Chock, you have the floor. Mr. Chock: I could not agree more with the statements that Councilmember Rapozo has just stated. It is an awkward position for myself and for him. I do believe that he has the experience necessary to conduct himself in the Vice Chair position. I have been conflicted over the last twelve (12) hours about how I might support anyone in this position. Throughout that process what has come to my mind is to know and practice what I believe is important and that is to seek objectivity, neutrality, and if at all possible, find ways to bring people together. This is an interesting turn of events as well for me. It is almost the same turn of events that happened last week in terms of my call to leadership. I do believe that I am on a fast track in my life to make some decisions on leadership. That is what I can provide. I can provide the objectivity to bring together any division that may exists; not that there is, but that there may be in whatever issue that we put before us. I am willing to step into that role if necessary and answer the call that is being made here. Chair Furfaro: First of all, I do want to make sure we all understand that we all had an opportunity to consider this over the last nineteen SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 6 NOVEMBER 19, 2013 (19) days. Over the last nineteen (19) days because we knew Nadine was going to leave us. So, it was not like it was dropped on us. I also want to say that you all know that I have worked hard on a continuity plan not only for the Council but as well for our Staff. Our Staff of twenty-three (23). When we talk about continuity planning, it is about time and exposure as well. It is time and exposure. When we looked at the options we had last time with someone like Vice Chair Nakamura, you know she had served in many State agencies as a consultant. She has served with the Hawai`i Visitor Bureau (HVB), HTA, funding sources, she served one (1) term before she came on as Vice Chair, and she helped participate with many of you in giving me feedback in our future continuity plan. Certainly, I do think there was a critical path to get us to that point. On the other hand, I want to say to you some of my decisions here and first of all, I have no problems announcing my intentions early. In fact on Bill No. 2491, I announced my support very early for it as it came out of Committee. I think it is important that people know where you stand. I have demonstrated my support here for Mr. Rapozo because this upcoming year and when I mean year, remember, December 1 of next year is a new Council and that is only nineteen (19) months away. Not even that, it is eleven (11) months away. Also, I do want to say that I am thrilled that we have a situation with a young gentleman coming forward and bringing a lot of leadership talents to the Council, someone who is very knowledgeable in our sense of place. At the same time the urgency we have now is...you know I have recently organized with the other four (4) Chairpersons some lobbying effort by the four (4) County Chair's at the Legislature. Mel has served as President of HSAC and this is going to be a tough year because we are all going to have to be there lobbying for what is happening with the Transient Accommodations Tax (TAT), what are the options with the General Excise Tax (GET), and so forth. The window-dressing to his credentials being in front of the Legislature as the Vice Chair but those are very important items for us coming up in the next twelve (12) months. We can all build relationships and with the exception of Mr. Hooser and Mel, who has been with HSAC for four (4) years, I know you folks bring a lot of relationships at the State level. I want to make sure you understand my reasoning and my affirmation of pointing out all of these issues as they made sense for me to have Mr. Rapozo as the Vice Chair. As we get into what is a very, very difficult financial year. We are going to start the year about ten point four million (10,400,000) short until we know where we stand with our Comprehensive Annual Financial Report (CAFR). Also, in structuring the other items and I am going to talk about them now... you know it would have been an opportunity to allocate Chairmanships to different people but in fact my recommendation is to have JoAnn Chairing two (2) Committees — Planning and Housing but I am going to wait to hear from Mr. Bynum on his presentation. In those two (2) Committees, we have a Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance (CZO) update coming, a General Plan coming, community development plans coming, and we got a need to really be focused on additional transportation equipment such as the buses and so forth with the Federal. JoAnn, if this is the outcome, is going to be very, very busy. I wanted to make sure that I share that with you. For myself, I have been on the Council twelve (12) years, as we are talking about continuity. I served three (3) years as a Planning Commission before that, I served on the General Plan before that, I served on the CZO before that, so, time and exposure once again develops our leaders of the future. I will be supporting Mel but do not get me wrong whatever the outcome, I will invest as much time as I can but he has in fact demonstrated the time and exposure to prepare him for this. On that note, we have two (2) candidates and I guess we will do a roll call on this vote. SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 7 NOVEMBER 19, 2013 The motion for Vice Chairmanship of the County Council carried the following vote: FOR CHOCK: Bynum, Chock, Hooser, Yukimura TOTAL — 4, FOR RAPOZO: Kagawa, Rapozo, Furfaro TOTAL — 3. Chair Furfaro: 4:3. Congratulations Mason. Mr. Rapozo, I do want to say that I know you will continue to work very diligently for us these next twelve (12) months because it is big time over at the State Legislature. We will get Mr. Chock over there with you as soon as we can. Mr. Rapozo: I have already asked him to serve on our NACo Board of Directors. Chair Furfaro: Outstanding. Mr. Rapozo: I am hoping that he can consider that as well. Can we take a short recess, Mr. Chair? Chair Furfaro: Sure. There being no objections, the Council recessed at 9:40 a.m. The Council reconvened at 9:51 a.m., and proceeded as follows: RESOLUTION: 1. Resolution No. 2013-74 — RESOLUTION REPEALING RESOLUTION NO. 2013-03 AND RESOLUTION NO. 2013-10, AND APPOINTING THE CHAIRPERSONS, VICE CHAIRPERSONS, AND MEMBERS OF THE SEVERAL STANDING COMMITTEES OF THE COUNCIL OF THE COUNTY OF KAUAI: Mr. Rapozo moved to adopt Resolution No. 2013-74, seconded by Mr. Bynum. Mr. Rapozo moved to amend Resolution No. 2013-74 as circulated, as shown in the Floor Amendment which is attached hereto as Attachment C, seconded by Mr. Kagawa. Mr. Rapozo: As you can see the Section 2 has a variety of changes. Basically what this amendment does is it keeps the standing Committees the same. Now, in the Planning Committee Councilmember Chock will be the Chair, Councilmember Yukimura will be the Vice Chair. Councilmember Chock will be added to the Housing & Transportation Committee which is basically filling the spots, the blanks that Councilmember Nakamura left. Councilmember Chock would be an Ex-Officio Member of the Environmental Services / Public Safety / Community Assistance Committee. Councilmember Chock will be in the Public Works / Parks & Recreation Committee. Councilmember Chock will be added to the Economic Development (Sustainability / Agriculture / Food / Energy) & Intergovernmental Relations Committee. Councilmember Chock will be a member of the Finance & Economic Development (Tourism / Visitor / Industry / Small Business Development / Sports & Recreation Development / Other Economic Development Areas) Committee, and then Councilmember Chock will also fill that vacancy of the Committee of the Whole. That would be my amendment. SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 8 NOVEMBER 19, 2013 Chair Furfaro: I want to get this correct, Chock becomes the Chair of Planning with JoAnn as the Vice Chair. Chock is a member of Housing, he is a member of Environmental Services, he is a member of Public Works, he is a member of Economic Development, he is the Vice Chair of Finance & Economic Development and he is member of the Committee of the Whole. That gives Mr. Chock one (1) Vice Chairmanship and one (1) Committee Chairmanship. Am I correct? Mr. Rapozo: Correct. Mr. Hooser: Just for the record in terms of the area of responsibility that I am delegated with here is essentially the same responsibility that I had in the past? Chair Furfaro; Yes. Mr. Hooser: I am comfortable with that in terms of my particular kuleana. Mr. Bynum: Will I be able to present the other proposal so we can look at them side by side before we vote? Are we going to vote on this first? Chair Furfaro: If your amendments are filling in the vacancies, that is what is on the agenda today. Mr. Rapozo: Mr. Chair, just as a process I would suggest that we vote on this one otherwise those poor things are going to have a problem with amending the amendment. So, I would suggest that after the discussion we call for the question on this one and if it does not pass, another member could introduce another amendment. I would think that would work best, right, Ricky? Chair Furfaro: Did you acknowledge that, Mr. Watanabe? RICKY WATANABE, County Clerk: Yes. Ms. Yukimura: I agree with voting on this amendment before we take up another one but I think it would be useful to at least look at the other proposed amendment. Mr. Hooser: I think it is also useful if people indicate whether they are comfortable or not comfortable with their position on the amendment. Mr. Kagawa: It has only been eleven (11) months that I have served here and while we always have not agreed, I think our Committees have worked. Our Council has functioned well, we keep hearing that how well- rounded group we have, how we properly vetted controversial items. We have not agreed all the time but that is the process. I think we have been very successful. My whole point is, "why go through extensive changes?" I have total confidence in Mr. Chock handling the Planning Chairmanship with mentorship from Committee Vice Chair Yukimura. As Councilmember Hooser said earlier, we can put in however much time that each of us wants. That is what this Council allows. It allows us to get deeply into any issue on any Committee. This is just a minor step in SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 9 NOVEMBER 19, 2013 our function as a Council. I think we should make it simple for the staff. I think this really works the easiest. Ms. Yukimura: I want to honor Councilmember Bynum's desire to be Chair of the Planning Committee. I wonder if Mr. Chock can maybe express what he would like to see. Chair Furfaro: I would be glad to give Mr. Bynum the floor since I was interrupted in what I would want to see and I removed my recommendations from the beginning. I had Mr. Bynum in the Planning position but I was told that my recommendations were told to be premature. Mr. Bynum, you are up. Mr. Bynum: I do not fully understand why last time we did this process we changed and revised Committee structures and names all in the same day is my recollection and I am being told that we cannot do that today but we can do it subsequently. Chair Furfaro: I think what you are being told is, "why do it now when the whole thing is going to be up in another twelve (12) minutes and let us just fill the vacancies." I am going to the ten (10) minutes then we will take another break. Mr. Bynum: In twelve (12) minutes we are going to change the Committee names and structure? Chair Furfaro: No, we are not changing Committee names and structures. Mr. Bynum: That is what I understand but the last time we did this process, I believe we did. Chair Furfaro: Okay, you believe that but why do we not take a break so we can verify that? Mr. Bynum: If you like. There being no objections, the Council recessed at 10:31 a.m. The Council reconvened at 10:44 a.m., and proceeded as follows: Mr. Bynum: Thank you for the recess and I was able to clarify and I will do my best to explain this. We are here and I think we all want to do what is best for the County and for the structure of the government in the future. As I mentioned that the last time we did this we changed titles, Committees, and the people involved but that was at the beginning of a term. It was different circumstances. On today's agenda, it is changing the names of the current Committee's. Subsequently, we can in fairly short order put a rule change that would change the Committee's names. I am asking the Committee to see this as a two-step process. One step under the current rules today is fulfilling our obligations. My proposal has been circulated, if you would turn to Section 2 of this. The reason why I am suggesting this is because what I have said earlier. I believe that we should set ourselves up for success during the rest of this term and into the future. We should really look about how to best do that with the skills we have. If SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 10 NOVEMBER 19, 2013 you look at Section 2 (as attached hereto as Attachment D), what I am suggesting today the Planning Committee get structured with myself as Chair, JoAnn Yukimura as Vice Chair and the following members. The other change would be in my current Committee — the Finance & Economic Development (Tourism / Visitor Industry / Small Business Development / Sports & Recreation Development / Other Economic Development Areas) (FED) Committee, that today we would staff that Committee as it shows here with Mason Chock as the Chair, JoAnn Yukimura as the Vice Chair, and members as noted. In a Resolution that I will introduced as soon as the Members agrees its appropriate, this Committee — FED, would become Economic Development; period. The Planning Committee as structured here today would become the Finance / Planning Committee. It is legal and okay to do this in a two-step process. We did not put that rule change on today's agenda but I think this would accomplish several goals. The other change that is in here is changing the Vice Chair of and I am sorry it might not be in here but is something I intended. The Vice Chair of the Agricultural Committee. The name change all of the current duties of that Committee remain the same but the name has caused us some confusion because they both say "Economic Development." I will be suggesting that we change the name to Agriculture / Food / Energy / Sustainability / Intergovernmental Relations. That way we will not have two (2) Committee's with the name of"Economic Development." So, all the Committees would maintain their current responsibilities with the exception of the Economic Development Committee by taking the portions that are currently in the Finance Committee. This would in essence accomplish some restructuring but we can put the members in place today on the appropriate Committees under our current rules. Mr. Rapozo: Mr. Chair, I call for the question. Mr. Hooser: Point of clarification? You had a call for the question but we also had some discussion...so, call for the question is my understanding to vote on the original one and then depending on what happens in our vote, either consider another Resolution as opposed to amending the one that is on the flood? So, the "call for the question" would be to vote on Councilmember Rapozo's initial amendment and we are not voting on Councilmember Bynum's suggestion, is that correct? Chair Furfaro: That is correct. Mr. Hooser: It gets a little confusing sometimes on what we are voting on. I want to be clear. Mr. Rapozo: Mr. Chair, Mr. Bynum's discussion was unrelated and that is why I would like to bring it back to the agenda item. We are talking about replacing members not about restructuring Committee's. Chair Furfaro: Mr. Clerk, we are calling for the question. The question was as submitted by Mr. Rapozo the vacancy filled on the various Committees. The motion to amend Resolution No. 2013-74 as circulated, as shown in Floor Amendment C, failed by the following vote: FOR AMENDMENT C: Kagawa, Rapozo, Furfaro TOTAL — 3, AGAINST AMENDMENT C: Bynum, Chock, Hooser, Yukimura TOTAL — 4, EXCUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL — 0. Y SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 11 NOVEMBER 19, 2013 Mr. Bynum moved to amend Resolution No. 2013-74 as circulated, as shown in Floor Amendment D, seconded by Ms. Yukimura. Chair Furfaro: Discussion? I have no idea what you people are doing. You are going to put the two (2) most important Committee's that we have jurisdiction on in this County into one (1) Committee — Planning and Finance? That is the evolution here. I want to make sure that I understand. Did I hear that you are going to put Planning and Finance eventually in the same Committee? When I went through the Finance duties...you even forgot that under Finance come the property taxes. I have no idea how we see creating eventually a Committee with so much influence is Planning and taxing when at times these two (2) Committee's could actually be in conflict with one another. You have the floor, Mr. Bynum. That is my comments. Mr. Bynum: Chair, I am disappointed you made those comments because it puts me in a position of saying, "the public record is clear." I have been the Finance Chair when you allowed it, Chair. You kept the budget, you kept it and many Finance issues went into your Committee of the Whole. I did not fight you on it all of this time, right? I have been working on issues in Finance, you know that, and I will continue to work on finances but your proposal put Planning and Housing/Transportation all in one (1) Committee. I have recognized your history of financial expertise and that is why I deferred to your leadership on these finance issues even when they were more appropriately in my Committee. I did not make an issue out of it because you have done a great job and we have collaborated well. You know that you have taken on most of the Finance and Budget responsibilities during your Chairmanship. I am not complaining about that, Chair. I am saying that for you to argue now that continuing for me to fulfill my role in Finance and take on the issues of Planning is too much or too powerful...I just want to respectfully disagree. Chair Furfaro: I accept your feedback respectfully but I do want to say for these twelve (12) month period having JoAnn in Planning and her watching Transportation and the Housing, this Councilwoman brings a tremendous amount of experience to both of those Committee's. She is actually familiar with the issues that are going on at that moment. So, there is a difference. Mr. Hooser: It is always awkward when we do not all agree. I just like to take a deep breath and think for a moment what is in the best interest of the Council, the County, and what are strengthens and personalities all mesh together. When the initial proposal was proposed by yourself and I saw Councilmember Yukimura proposed to Chair Housing/Transportation and Planning, my immediate thought was that it was too much. When it is being proposed now with Councilmember Bynum doing Finance and Planning, it is a similar suggestion. One Councilmember is going to increase their load, if you would, significantly. I see Councilmember Bynum being able to handle that. It is an important position and somebody has to do it. He would step forward and say, "I want to do it," I think that is admirable. With your continued support on the budget in the Finance area which you have been which you have probably the most experience than anyone here doing the budgets and finances, and so you really have stepped forward. I imagine that as a team, we will all continue to help each other. Councilmember Yukimura in her role with the Planning experience, I am sure she is going to step forward, and do a little extra effort to help Councilmember Bynum as well as everyone in the Committee. This proposal allows our newest member to SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 12 NOVEMBER 19, 2013 Chair a Committee. I think given the circumstances that someone has to do it and is a lot of work, I think that the proposal as presented is a good one — similar but just different people are assuming more responsibilities. Chair Furfaro: There is a difference Mr. Hooser and here is the difference. We are putting people in place now to eventually change the titles and in twelve (12) months we are going to have new members at this table I am sure. The reality is putting the players in these pockets and assuming the Committee's will happened is a lot different from knowing that JoAnn has been the Vice Chair of one of these Committee's and is currently very much aware of what is going on. As you know I have pulled my suggestion and introduced Mr. Chock as being the Chair of Planning while I knew that JoAnn could be his mentor. There is a difference. I just wanted to respond to you. Mr. Bynum: You seem to assume that I have not kept up on Planning issues and again there is a public record... Chair Furfaro: I did not say that. Mr. Bynum: Do I have the floor? Chair Furfaro: You have the floor but do not put words in my mouth. Mr. Bynum: I think I said you seem to assume. There is a public record. When I became Finance Chair, I made it very clear...anyway...never mind. I believe this is a good proposal and I will stick by it. I think it really looks to the future and it tries to accommodate all Councilmembers and how they choose to serve. Chair Furfaro: I appreciate your offer but at this time I cannot support it. Mr. Hooser: I would like to call for the question. Mr. Watanabe: This is the Amendment as proposed by Councilmember Bynum. The motion to amend Resolution No. 2013-74 as circulated, as shown in Floor Amendment D, carried by the following vote: FOR AMENDMENT D: Bynum, Chock, Hooser, Yukimura TOTAL — 4, AGAINST AMENDMENT D: Kagawa, Rapozo, Furfaro TOTAL— 3, EXCUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL— 0. Chair Furfaro: Now to the Clerk, we are putting people in place to basically say that we are going to have a new rules agenda item and new names for some of these Committee's in some near future? Mr. Watanabe: It is dependent upon the proposal from a Councilmember to introduce a Resolution. SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 13 NOVEMBER 19, 2013 Chair Furfaro: Dependent on a proposal from a Councilmember and my authority to put it on within one hundred and twenty (120) days. Ms. Yukimura: I just wanted to say that no matter what Mr. Bynum proposes we will still need four (4) votes or a majority vote. That is how we make our decisions here. Chair Furfaro: Understood. I was just pointing out that it is still a piece that in the future has to come on to the agenda. Ms. Yukimura: That is correct. The motion to adopt Resolution No. 2013-74, as amended to Resolution No. 2013-74, Draft 1, was then put and carried by the following vote: FOR AMENDMENT D: Bynum, Chock, Hooser, Yukimura TOTAL— 4, AGAINST AMENDMENT D: Kagawa, Rapozo, Furfaro TOTAL— 3, EXCUSED & NOT VOTING: None TOTAL — 0. ADJOURNMENT. There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 11:00 a.m. Respectfully submitted, RICKY WATANABE County Clerk :dmc Attachment A COUNCIL CHAIR JAY FURFARO'S RECOMMENDATION PLANNING COMMITTEE JoAnn A. Yukimura, Chair Tim Bynum, Vice Chair Mason K. Chock, Sr., Member Ross Kagawa, Member Mel Rapozo, Member Gary L. Hooser, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member HOUSING & TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE JoAnn A. Yukimura, Chair Gary L. Hooser, Vice Chair Tim Bynum, Member Mason K. Chock, Sr., Member Mel Rapozo, Member Ross Kagawa, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES / PUBLIC SAFETY/ COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE COMMITTEE Mel Rapozo, Chair Ross Kagawa, Vice Chair Gary L. Hooser, Member Tim Bynum, Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Member Mason K. Chock, Sr., Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member PUBLIC WORKS / PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE Ross Kagawa, Chair Tim Bynum, Vice Chair Mason K. Chock, Sr., Member Gary L. Hooser, Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Member Mel Rapozo, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (SUSTAINABILITY/AGRICULTURE / FOOD / ENERGY) & INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE Gary L. Hooser, Chair JoAnn A. Yukimura, Vice Chair Mason K. Chock, Sr., Member Ross Kagawa, Member Mel Rapozo, Member Tim Bynum, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member FINANCE & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (TOURISM /VISITOR INDUSTRY/ SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT / SPORTS & RECREATION DEVELOPMENT / OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREAS) COMMITTEE Tim Bynum, Chair Ross Kagawa, Vice Chair Mason K. Chock, Sr., Member Gary L. Hooser, Member Mel Rapozo, Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Jay Furfaro, Chair Mel Rapozo, Vice Chair Tim Bynum, Member Mason K. Chock, Sr., Member Gary L. Hooser, Member Ross Kagawa, Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Member Attachment B ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE I OI I�IS\( \ l !1 u k 1\I)t \!i:l . \l\[ I_ Bi \I \ I-LOP\il \I .tiPO1Z 1 � 1:1 ('I:[.A 11()\ UI i )1'\11 \T 01 111.1; I ! ':)VO\11( I)I \ II (ll'\II`V l AR1 \ • Mason Chock, Chair o Tim Bynum, Vice Chair o Gary Hooser, Member o Ross Kagawa, Member o Mel Rapozo, Member • JoAnn A. Yukimura, Ex-Officio Member o Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member LIOUSINt;, FRANSPORT \TION COMMITTEE: o JoAnn A. Yukimura, Chair o Gary L. Hooser, Vice Chair o Tim Bynum, Member o Mason Chock, Member o Mel Rapozo, Member- o Ross Kagawa, Ex-Officio Member o Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member k t\ MENTAL SER\ICES PUBLIC SAFETY )\ 1 \ ITV NctiitiT.1NCF COM1MITTEE o Mel Rapozo, Chair o Ross Kagawa, Vice Chair o Tim Bynum, Member o Gary L. Hooser, Member I o JoAnn A. Yukimura, Member 4 Attachment B • o Mason Chock, Ex-Officio Member o Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member Pt BLJC WORKS PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE o Ross Kagawa, Chair- o Mason Chock, Vice Chair o Gary L. Hooser, Member o Tim Bynum, Member o JoAnn A. Yukimura, Member o Mel Rapozo, Ex-Officio Member o Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member \U :RIC[ 'I.TE'RI FOOD ENERGY SUSTAINABIL.ITY J. + € OVkRN\ IEZTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE, o Gary L. Hooser, Chair o JoAnn A. Yukimura, Vice Chair o Mason Chock, Member o Ross Kagawa, Member- o Mel Rapozo, Member o Tim Bynum, Ex-Officio Member o Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member FINANCI- PLANNING COMMITTEE o Tim Bynum, Chair I o JoAnn Yukimura, Vice Chair o Gary Hooser, Member • Ross Kagawa, Member❑ o Mel Rapozo, Member I • Attachment B o Mason Chock, Ex-Officio Member o Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member ( )\ I\11-TTFF OF THE \-t`HOL1 o Jay Furfaro, Chair o Mel Rapozo, Vice Chair o Tim Bynum, Member o Mason Chock, Member o Gary L. Hooser, Member o Ross Kagawa, Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Member • Attachment C (November 19, 2013) FLOOR AMENDMENT Resolution No. 2013-74, Repealing Resolution No. 2013-03 And Resolution No. 2013-10, And Appointing The Chairpersons, Vice Chairpersons, And Members Of The Several Standing Committees Of The Council Of The County of Kaua`i Introduced by: MEL RAPOZO Amend Resolution No. 2013-74, Section 2 to read as follows: "[SECTION 2. The Chairpersons, Vice Chairpersons, and Members of the several standing Committee of the Kaua`i County Council for the term commencing December 3, 2012 are hereby appointed as follows: PLANNING COMMITTEE , Chair JoAnn A. Yukimura, Vice Chair Tim Bynum, Member Ross Kagawa, Member Mel Rapozo, Member Gary L. Hooser, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member HOUSING & TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE JoAnn A. Yukimura, Chair Gary L. Hooser, Vice Chair Tim Bynum, Member , Member Mel Rapozo, Member Ross Kagawa, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES / PUBLIC SAFETY/ COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE COMMITTEE Mel Rapozo, Chair Ross Kagawa, Vice Chair Gary L. Hooser, Member Tim Bynum, Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Member , Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member 1 Attachment C PUBLIC WORKS / PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE Ross Kagawa, Chair Tim Bynum, Vice Chair Gary L. Hooser, Member , Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Member Mel Rapozo, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (SUSTAINABILITY/AGRICULTURE / FOOD / ENERGY) & INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE Gary L. Hooser, Chair JoAnn A. Yukimura, Vice Chair Ross Kagawa, Member Mel Rapozo, Member , Member Tim Bynum, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member FINANCE & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (TOURISM /VISITOR INDUSTRY/ SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT / SPORTS & RECREATION DEVELOPMENT / OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREAS) COMMITTEE Tim Bynum, Chair , Vice Chair Gary L. Hooser, Member Ross Kagawa, Member Mel Rapozo, Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Jay Furfaro, Chair Mel Rapozo, Vice Chair Tim Bynum, Member Gary L. Hooser, Member Ross Kagawa, Member , Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Member] 2 Attachment C SECTION 2. The Chairpersons, Vice Chairpersons, and Members of the several standing Committee of the Kaua`i County Council for the term commencing December 3, 2012 are hereby appointed as follows: PLANNING COMMITTEE Mason K. Chock, Sr., Chair JoAnn A. Yukimura, Vice Chair Tim Bynum, Member Ross Kagawa, Member Mel Rapozo, Member Gary L. Hooser, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member HOUSING & TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE JoAnn A. Yukimura, Chair Gary L. Hooser, Vice Chair Tim Bynum, Member Mason K. Chock, Sr., Member Mel Rapozo, Member Ross Kagawa, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES / PUBLIC SAFETY/ COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE COMMITTEE Mel Rapozo, Chair Ross Kagawa, Vice Chair Gary L. Hooser, Member Tim Bynum, Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Member Mason K. Chock, Sr., Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member PUBLIC WORKS / PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE Ross Kagawa, Chair Tim Bynum, Vice. Chair Mason K. Chock, Sr., Member Gary L. Hooser, Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Member Mel Rapozo, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member 3 Attachment C ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (SUSTAINABILITY/AGRICULTURE / FOOD / ENERGY) & INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE Gary L. Hooser, Chair JoAnn A. Yukimura, Vice Chair Mason K. Chock, Sr., Member Ross Kagawa, Member Mel Rapozo, Member Tim Bynum, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member FINANCE & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (TOURISM /VISITOR INDUSTRY/ SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT / SPORTS & RECREATION DEVELOPMENT / OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREAS) COMMITTEE Tim Bynum, Chair Ross Kagawa, Vice Chair Mason K. Chock, Sr., Member Gary L. Hooser, Member Mel Rapozo, Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Jay Furfaro, Chair Mel Rapozo, Vice Chair Tim Bynum, Member Mason K. Chock, Sr., Member Gary L. Hooser, Member Ross Kagawa, Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Member" (Material to be deleted is bracketed. New material to be added is underscored.) 4 Attachment D (November 19, 2013) FLOOR AMENDMENT Resolution No. 2013-74, Repealing Resolution No. 2013-03 And Resolution No. 2013-10, And Appointing The Chairpersons, Vice Chairpersons, And Members Of The Several Standing Committees Of The Council Of The County of Kaua`i Introduced by: TIM BYNUM Amend Resolution No. 2013-74, Section 2 to read as follows: "[SECTION 2. The Chairpersons, Vice Chairpersons, and Members of the several standing Committee of the Kaua`i County Council for the term commencing December 3, 2012 are hereby appointed as follows: PLANNING COMMITTEE , Chair JoAnn A. Yukimura, Vice Chair Tim Bynum, Member Ross Kagawa, Member Mel Rapozo, Member Gary L. Hooser, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member HOUSING & TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE JoAnn A. Yukimura, Chair Gary L. Hooser, Vice Chair Tim Bynum, Member , Member Mel Rapozo, Member Ross Kagawa, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES / PUBLIC SAFETY/ COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE COMMITTEE Mel Rapozo, Chair Ross Kagawa, Vice Chair Gary L. Hooser, Member Tim Bynum, Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Member , Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member 1 Attachment D PUBLIC WORKS / PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE Ross Kagawa, Chair Tim Bynum, Vice Chair Gary L. Hooser, Member , Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Member Mel Rapozo, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (SUSTAINABILITY/AGRICULTURE / FOOD / ENERGY) & INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE Gary L. Hooser, Chair JoAnn A. Yukimura, Vice Chair Ross Kagawa, Member Mel Rapozo, Member , Member Tim Bynum, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member FINANCE & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (TOURISM /VISITOR INDUSTRY/ SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT / SPORTS & RECREATION DEVELOPMENT / OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREAS) COMMITTEE Tim Bynum, Chair , Vice Chair Gary L. Hooser, Member Ross Kagawa, Member Mel Rapozo, Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Jay Furfaro, Chair Mel Rapozo, Vice Chair Tim Bynum, Member Gary L. Hooser, Member Ross Kagawa, Member , Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Member] 2 Attachment D SECTION 2. The Chairpersons, Vice Chairpersons, and Members of the several standing Committee of the Kaua`i County Council for the term commencing December 3, 2012 are hereby appointed as follows: PLANNING COMMITTEE Tim Bynum, Chair JoAnn A. Yukimura, Vice Chair Mason K. Chock, Sr., Member Ross Kagawa, Member Mel Rapozo, Member Gary L. Hooser, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member HOUSING & TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE JoAnn A. Yukimura, Chair Gary L. Hooser, Vice Chair Tim Bynum, Member Mason K. Chock, Sr., Member Mel Rapozo, Member Ross Kagawa, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES / PUBLIC SAFETY/ COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE COMMITTEE Mel Rapozo, Chair Ross Kagawa, Vice Chair Gary L. Hooser, Member Tim Bynum, Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Member Mason K. Chock, Sr., Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member PUBLIC WORKS / PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE Ross Kagawa, Chair Tim Bynum, Vice Chair Mason K. Chock, Sr., Member Gary L. Hooser, Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Member Mel Rapozo, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member 3 Attactrnent D ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (SUSTAINABILITY/AGRICULTURE / FOOD / ENERGY) & INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE Gary L. Hooser, Chair Mason K. Chock, Sr., Vice Chair Ross Kagawa, Member Mel Rapozo, Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Member Tim Bynum, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member FINANCE & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (TOURISM /VISITOR INDUSTRY/ SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT / SPORTS & RECREATION DEVELOPMENT / OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREAS) COMMITTEE Mason Chock, Sr., Chair JoAnn A. Yukimura, Vice Chair Ross Kagawa, Member Gary L. Hooser, Member Mel Rapozo, Member Tim Bynum, Ex-Officio Member Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Jay Furfaro, Chair Mel Rapozo, Vice Chair Tim Bynum, Member Mason K. Chock, Sr., Member Gary L. Hooser, Member Ross Kagawa, Member JoAnn A. Yukimura, Member" (Material to be deleted is bracketed. New material to be added is underscored.) 4