HomeMy WebLinkAbout04/23/2014 Public hearing transcript re BILL#2542 PUBLIC HEARING
APRIL 23, 2014
A public hearing of the Council of the County of Kaua`i was called to order by
Mel Rapozo, Vice Chair, Committee of the Whole, on Wednesday, April 23, 2014, at
2:09 p.m., at the Council Chambers, 4396 Rice Street, Room 201, Historic County
Building, Lihu`e, and the presence of the following was noted:
Honorable Mason K. Chock, Sr.
Honorable Gary L. Hooser
Honorable Ross Kagawa
Honorable JoAnn A. Yukimura
Honorable Jay Furfaro
Excused: Honorable Tim Bynum
Honorable Mel Rapozo
The Clerk read the notice of the public hearing on the following:
"Bill No. 2542 — A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDING
SECTION 21-9.2 OF THE KAUAI COUNTY CODE 1987, AS AMENDED,
RELATING TO INTEGRATED SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT,"
which was passed on first reading and ordered to print by the Council of the County
of Kaua`i on March 27, 2014, and published in The Garden Island newspaper on
April 13, 2014.
EDUARDO TOPENIO, JR., Administrative Assistant to the County Clerk:
We do have one (1) speaker which is registered speaker, Mr. Pat Gegen.
Mr. Rapozo: Mr. Gegen.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended to take public testimony.
PAT GEGEN: Aloha Council. For the record, my name is
Pat Gegen and now I am representing Zero Waste Kaua`i. First of all, I come up
here and I say, "Wait, give the public more money." Now, I am saying, "No, take
more money from us." I do agree with Bill No. 2542 at increasing the landfill
dumping fee, the tipping fee, and the reasons are really quite simple. Right now, we
are currently subsidizing an unsustainable practice by throwing resources in our
landfill. Why are we not at least charging the cost of what it cost the County to run
that landfill? What kind of business practice is that where we are not even
collecting what the actual cost is? So, what we are doing is we are actually
promoting that behavior of throwing things in the landfill. Studies show that to
change social behaviors, it is best to promote and recognize the desired behaviors
and it is better to penalize or make the undesired behavior less desirable, less
comfortable to do. Ask any parent or any teacher who happens to be in the
audience, what do you do? You praise the good behaviors and you penalize the bad
behaviors. Councilmember Rapozo, how many times did you as an officer stop
somebody for speeding and give them a ten dollars ($10) bonus for speeding? That
is what we are doing when people are throwing a ton or rubbish in the landfill. We
are giving them ten dollars ($10) back saying, "Guess what? We are not even
collecting the whole cost." It does not make any sense. Increasing the fee will
promote better alternatives than continuing to send our resources for burying.
PUBLIC HEARING 2 APRIL 23, 2014
BILL NO. 2542
Currently, over sixty percent (60%) of the current materials going into the landfill
could have other useful purposes. If you take a look at what is going into the
landfill, seventeen percent (17%) to twenty percent (20%) of it is paper. Paper is
recyclable. It is compostable if nothing else. What is the next biggest thing that is
going in there? I think there is about thirteen percent (13%) food waste. I do not
know about you folks, but I do have a compost pile at home and you know what?
My garden keeps getting better year after year because all of the scraps are going
into that compost which then is being put into the garden. We have better things to
do than continue to fill up Kekaha. At what cost is that? We are already looking at
an expansion at Kekaha. How many more do we want to do? Let us not continue
wasting that money.
The Council passed a Zero Waste Resolution two (2) years ago with a goal of
about seventy percent (70%) diversion. I believe right now we are at around forty
percent (40%), give or take a little bit. So, we still almost have to double what we
are doing right now. My question is what has this body or what has the
Administration done to try to reach that goal? Having a goal without action is just
dreaming. If we want to do something, we have to follow our dreams and our goals
with true action. Raising this fee to at least cover the cost is the beginning of
showing some action towards a goal that this body has set. The raising of the fees is
just one (1) minor step in the right direction to achieving these objectives. My
previous testimony...
Mr. Topenio: Three (3) minutes.
Mr. Gegen: ...that I sent in, I actually suggested
increasing the fee to make it more of a hindrance and utilizing some of that money
to promote the good behaviors that we actually want. So, thank you very much.
Mr. Rapozo: Thank you very much. Anyone else
registered to speak?
Mr. Topenio: No other registered speaker.
Mr. Rapozo: Thank you. Anyone in the audience wishing
to speak on this matter?
There being no further testimony, the public hearing adjourned : -• 5 p.m.
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