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DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET CALL-BACKS FY 2014-15
MAYOR'S CLOSING COMMENTS
April 22, 2014
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There being no objections, the Committee was called back to order at 4:23 p.m. and
proceeded as follows:
Mayor's Closing Comments
Honorable Gary L. Hooser
Honorable Mel Rapozo
Honorable JoAnn A. Yukimura
Honorable Jay Furfaro, Council Chair
Excused: Honorable Tim Bynum
Honorable Mason K. Chock, Sr.
Honorable Ross Kagawa
Chair Furfaro: We are back from our tape change and Mayor,
thank you for being here at the end of these two call-backs and our first go around on the
budget. The Council is very pleased to have you here with the Department Heads. So the
floor is yours.
BERNARD P. CARVALHO, JR., Mayor: First of all, thank you very much,
Council Chair Furfaro and members of the Council. I just wanted to give my own wrap up
as we all know this is just one part...football terms we are not even at the 50-yard line but
we are on the field and so in marching down slowly but surely, we wanted to send our
mahalo and thank you for your efforts over the past three and a half weeks to work through
our proposed budget and to better understand the needs and challenges that we are all
facing and of course, going through a very constructive and respectful dialogue. I think
that is a big part there, as we move forward. So I wanted to start off with that and also say
the men and women sitting behind me, have done a tremendous job in trying to keep the
dialogue going, being well-informed and being prepared and we will continue to do that and
continue to offer information as we move to the next step, the next yard line, if you will,
moving through this process. From our Administrative Team, Department Heads, Legal
Team, Fiscal, all of them, coming forward with the various presentations, whether they are
PowerPoints, mission statements, we tried to really put everything together to help all of us
and help our people understand where we are at, what are some of the challenges, we have
had to make adjustments and readjustments and we have to make evaluations or re-
evaluations along the way and I wanted to say as we move to the next step, to help each
other to come to a budget that is going to be done very well for the people that we serve.
The Council has the authority to propose this as amended as we move forward. Today I am
respectfully requesting that we have a dialogue before any major cuts because the next
steps will be our May 8th submittal. So we will continue to keep our sleeves rolled up and
continue to work on what we have heard and see how we can make those adjustments.
What I am asking is that we continue to keep the open dialogue all the way. I do not want
to be...it would be better for us not to have any surprises. So some of you have been very
vocal throughout the process, which is great and some have not said as much, but I wanted
to make sure if there is something on your mind that would be a drastic change, I would
really appreciate the dialogue and the upfront information. So we can come out with
something that is going to be really well-thought out. It is not easy as far as the cuts that
we may have to make or not, but what I am saying that I am hoping that with our team
members back here, and offering the continued dialogue back and forth, before we get up to
May 8th and after May 8th. I know you have your final discussions the 13th and 14th and
even up until, there I am hoping that we can continue the open dialogue and have the
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information upfront. I do not want...I would prefer not to be surprised, because if there is
any major cuts I would like you to know, the people to know, with every cut comes some
kind of repercussion and we could be open enough to understand the challenges that we are
going to have to face. If there are additional things added, without dialogue, then I want to
be able to work with it and if it is a surprise, it may not be able to work. So I am just
wanting to be upfront. If Chair Furfaro, the 2% that came across, I mean, that would be an
example of talking through that maybe next time and seeing if we could say it is 3% or
whatever it is. So we can collectively come up with something that we can hopefully attain.
Then sometimes we cannot, like we said, we did not make it, we did not achieve it and to be
upfront with that and you have seen in numerous ways our teaming working upfront and
that is part of wrapping up this to our next step. We will come back with our submittal on
the 8th and we will be here the two days that you will go into your final decision-making and
I am hoping that in that time we will have a better idea of least what to expect. I know the
policy is that you have more discussion and I am hoping that we can talk about that.
Because I would prefer to let you know, should there be any type of major changes that
these are the repercussions that could occur and work it out. So I wanted the chance to say
that and on behalf of the men and women sitting behind me and working through the
process that is going to be very challenging, but at same time, the people knowing that we
have tried our very best to work together. Thank you for the opportunity and I look forward
to some healthy and respectful results as we come to final budget.
Chair Furfaro: Why do not you let me go around the table, and
see if Councilmembers have something to say at this point. anybody who would like to
respond, Mr. Hooser.
Mr. Hooser: Yes, Mayor, thank you.
Mayor Carvalho: Councilmember.
Mr. Hooser: Thank you for the great team that is sitting
behind you that helped to keep our County on-track and keep the services delivered and the
train running on time, if you would or the buses. I appreciate really your comments about
the dialogue in terms of cuts that we might offer up, and my personal philosophy is that you
and your team is in a much better position to do that than the Legislative body. So I would
hope that that is the way it would happen. So I would encourage you to, when you come
back on the 8th, I believe, to be as aggressive as you can, with additional cuts. Whether it is
dollar-funded positions, or Sister-Cities program or travel or whatever, and I realize the
challenges, believe me. I realize the challenges and I realize that people are warm bodies
and services have to be delivered. I fully realize that, but it is going to be very difficult to
continue to raise taxes, to eliminate the Open Space Fund, to deal with the health care
issue and I am hoping again, as we all are that the TAT issue will help us avoid some of
that. I would really encourage you to come back as aggressive as you can, to shrink the
budget. I do not have to feel compelled to try to figure it out. The Administration
administers and you know where your strengths and weaknesses are and it would be much
better for me and I think for everybody, if the Administration could be as aggressive as they
possibly can on that.
Mayor Carvalho: Be assured we are going to take everything back
and there are areas that we can look at and we will come back with whatever information
we have and make the adjustments as needed. Then you will have the chance to do what
you need to do and I am hoping before you do it in this timeframe, if you have any issues
that we can at least get our guys know and vet through it now rather than waiting for later.
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Mr. Hooser: $4-5 million worth of issues. At least to find
that.
Mayor Carvalho: We are interested to hear what kinds of solutions
you have Councilmember. We have laid out our cards pretty much, but I am saying that we
are willing to do that.
Mr. Hooser: I think funding vacant positions is the path of
least resistance and historically that is where we look. Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: JoAnn.
Ms. Yukimura: Mayor, I want to say that I have been so pleased
and very impressed by the way the budget process has improved over the years that you
have been Mayor. This year has been, I think, the best of those years under very difficult
circumstances. I want to commend you and all your Department Heads and your Finance
Team for really providing us as best a budget you can in the circumstances, I appreciated
both the dialogues and the presentations. I want to say that I feel like we are the ones who
often have to deal with surprises because of the supplemental, you know? We study the
budget, we work really hard on it and then, like, about three days before we have to make
our decision it is like changed all over again. So to me, I would like some head's-up in
terms of that process and I would wish from the time that you present the supplemental
and the time we make decisions were a bit longer so we could really absorb the changes. I
have tried to be as open and straightforward about my concerns in the budgets and in the
programming. I will do the best I can to signal these things, but I do say that we have...I
feel like so often we have such a moving target to deal with because the supplemental
comes in so late and often throws everything up in the air again in terms of all the pieces
that we have to think about. But be that as it may, I have appreciated your openness and
your presence during most of the budget hearings and if you were not here, your Managing
Director was. The openness of your staff and your willingness to provide information. So I
want to extend my hand of cooperation working with you on getting to a good budget.
Chair Furfaro: Mr. Rapozo.
Mr. Rapozo: Thank you, Mr. Chair and thank you, Mr. Mayor
for being here today and everyone. For the last day of the first-round. I think I share.
Mayor Carvalho: Not the 50-yard line yet.
Mr. Rapozo: I share Councilmember Yukimura's concerns
about the supplemental process and I think we tried to get that changed and failed, but it is
what it is. It is a good opportunity and I guess if we do keep that communication open it
can be mutually beneficial. So we just have to work that way. I do want to say, Mr. Chair,
I wanted to thank the Mayor for going to Oahu yesterday as well because he was the only
Mayor who showed up. A lot of talk from everyone else and the Mayor was the only one
and you have to understand when you walk into the Capitol, normally some
Councilmember from Kauai, but walking next to the 6' 6" giant and I make gest, but we
were able to get quality discussions with quality Legislators because of that and thank you
and for allowing me to go on behalf of the Chair for some of the money that Mr. Hooser is
look for as we all are.
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Mayor Carvalho: If I could respond to that, I too, got comments
that we went as a team from Kaua`i. That was the big part, just so you know that. That is
what it was, really.
Mr. Rapozo: Especially people got really suspicious seeing
Rapozo and Carvalho. Squeezing Bernard into the rental car we had. On a serious note
and compliments to your Budget and Finance and it is different working with a team that
your responses that came from part of what the Chair had requested a few years ago, where
we wanted the responses. In the old days we would get the responses after the budget was
done. And that is no joke. Why? We do not need that information, but it has been
very...the turnarounds has been very quick and actually quicker than I have been ready for
it so I just wanted to put that out. There has been a lot of questions, I think, for the most
part there is very little to deal with in the budgets from all the Departments. There is not
much, like I said in the old days we had that extra money, but there is none of that. So I
think the questions were pretty much on-point and obviously I have some concerns and I
think you have heard all of them, because I have not held any of them back...it is what it is
and I am hoping as you go back to your Department Heads to prioritize what you really
want versus what you can let go. We identified a couple of things with Parks where there
was a duplicate posting of a CIP project that frees up $40,000 and some of the other projects
that may not need to have to be done that year and that could wait a year and Mayor, I
could ask that you look at those that could wait another year. Aside from, that it is always
exciting to anticipate the supplemental, because you do not know what you do not know. So
if we could have that reciprocal courtesy if you have any surprises, that you would do the
same. You have heard my concerns and I hope we get through this in a way that does not
impact the taxpayers too much. It is will be interesting going forward. Thank you, Mr.
Chair.
Mayor Carvalho: I am sitting here to make sure that you have that
openness and communication from all of us and the taxpayers to benefit.
Chair Furfaro: Mayor, this is my 5th year as Chair and the 5th
year we are constantly making improvements in the way that we do the budget. And your
team has been very respectful, lots of kokua. Very helpful in getting clarity. And I think
with really minimal challenges and a perfect example was Thursday when the other
Council Chairs called me about the 45-minute response on the TAT and your Treasurer and
Ken Shimonshi came over on the conference call with me and we finalized that issue in the
E-mail that went back and you and Mel went over. It is a big issue for us. People need to
know that TAT sitting out there puts us in the position that the big items on our radar
screen is certainly the TAT and us underfunding OPEB. Because that liabilities will not go
way. These are the big items on the screen, energy and gas prices moving now and we had
a very good discussion with Ben today. Labor issues. We on get one out of nine votes, and
somewhere along the line we have got to get better in reminding people that we are a very
small County with small growth potential, which really equates to the fact that it does not
put us in a good place to grow revenue, okay? To be good stewards of our island, that is a
reality. So labor issues continue to be a concern. I want to tell you what I think I am
looking at here. You will have my comments and all of the Councilmembers will have my
comments by the end of day on Friday. I have set up another procedure for us, all of the
Councilmembers will have time to work with our staff and they will allocate time for them
to put their comments together to get them over to you. That is a new addition this year. I
have to tell us my staff is outstanding, the Council staff is on top of it.
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Mayor Carvalho: Yes.
Chair Furfaro: We have got very, very good people here and they
all want to be good stewards and part of getting to the right place for the right reasons for
the right people. So I do want to say we are going to go through some pieces that I would
reference as not down-sizing, but for a small County it is right-sizing. We have to be aware
that the Police have issues with the auto situation. We have got to look at how we fix that.
The County Attorney has challenges starting a litigation division and we have got to know
that we have to hold his feet to the fire if we give him that extra attorney to see how we
reduce the Special Counsel fees. Those are very real items. Yet at the same time, I think
everybody realizes we have to do so much more as being the third political subdivision on
the totem pole and we hear things, well the State will take this from us when it comes to
Workforce Investment, the grants are going to shrink from the Federal government. It is
tough. It is very, very tough. But I think I am very proud of the Council, and I think you
are very proud of your people.
Mayor Carvalho: Very proud.
Chair Furfaro: Together we worked very well to get us to this
point for the next step. Talking about the next step, May 7th we have an opportunity to
hear from the public in public hearings. I myself do not think there is any room for tax
relief. We have given a lot of tax relief over the years. We have to find the right place for
growth, but at the same time, I think we have pieces in the same general area as the other
Counties. One of the things that we have to talk about seriously is not having really
reserve money. And the only way we can earmark a reserve, if we look at maybe, maybe
increasing revenues. It is important for us to have that kind of reserve today, and you just
never know what is going to blindside you if you do not. I would like to set some priorities,
if I could about the Big Save space. This is the third year I really do not have a grip myself
on understanding the space over there, from the standpoint of where we could have other
savings? Example, like moving the Historical Society, or bringing the Auditor back here?
Those will save us hard-cash dollars and for me that needs to be high on the agenda.
Mayor, I have to tell you, you should be very proud of the people that you have behind you
and let me tell you that they are behind you and they want to do all the right things. You
will have my comments in advance and I will share my comments with all Councilmembers
by the end of the business on Friday, so you will have no surprises from me.
Mayor Carvalho: Council Chair Furfaro and Councilmembers and
Council staff have an outstanding relationship with our staff members and that is a good
thing to ensure that information is flowing back and forth. I am telling you that upfront. I
am proud of my team members, we are all proud and there is lots of work to do and we will
keep our sleeves rolled up. My door is open, my Managing Director's door is open and my
Department Heads doors are open. We may not agree on everything, but it is going to come
out with a good, solid piece.
Chair Furfaro: I have been doing large budgets for 39 years' of
my hotel career, you will have no surprises from me, but in the end when I am asking to
look at something, I want people to really understand, there is a need, and specifically
honestly and integrity starts with the budget, because it is a forecast. If it is not budgeted
properly, we will not get there. So on that note aloha Mayor.
Mayor Carvalho: Aloha, mahalo.
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Chair Furfaro: Thank you to everyone. This budget call-back is
adjourned.
There being no further business, the departmental budget call-backs were adjourned
at 4:46 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Council Services Review Officer
APPROVED at the Committee Meeting held on May 21, 2014:
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