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PUBLIC WORKS / PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE
June 18, 2014
A meeting of the Public Works / Parks & Recreation Committee of the
Council of the County of Kauai, State of Hawaii, was called to order by Ross
Kagawa,. Chair, at the Council Chambers, 4396 Rice Street, Suite 201, Lihu`e,
Kauai, on Wednesday, June 18, 2014, at 11:23 am., after which the following
members answered the call of the roll:
Honorable Tim Bynum (not present)
Honorable Gary L. Hooser
Honorable JoAnn A. Yukimura
Honorable Ross Kagawa
Honorable Mel Rapozo, Ex-Officio Member
Excused: Honorable Mason K. Chock, Sr.
Honorable Jay Furfaro, Ex-Officio Member
There being no objections, the Committee recessed at 11:23 a.m., to convene
in the Economic Development (Sustainability /Agriculture / Food / Energy) &
Intergovernmental Relations Committee.
The meeting was called back to order at 4:11 p.m., and proceeded on its
agenda item, as follows:
C 2014-89 Communication (03/05/2014) from Council Chair Furfaro,
requesting the presence of the County Engineer, to provide
an update on the Ala Kalanikaumaka Street off-site
drainage area and the efforts of the Department of Public
Works to address the reported problems that occur
following heavy rain. (This item was Deferred.)
Chair Kagawa: The Chair has been informed that Mr. Abreu
was waiting for the status and did not hear from the Chair. Chair's
recommendation is to have Mr. Abreu on behalf of the church and the residents to
be present to say his side of the story and/or recommendations, but if it is all good
news for him, we can have the update now and defer later or if you prefer just let us
tackle this in two (2) weeks. I will leave it up to Public Works to give us their
direction because I hate to see us go through this dialogue and then have to wait for
two (2) weeks to update Mr. Abreu and then go through the same dialogue again.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
LYLE TABATA, Deputy County Engineer: We are here to primarily just
give an update. We have possible solutions that we wanted to present. We had not,
like I had understood we were to just provide an update of our findings.
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Chair Kagawa: You may proceed.
Mr. Tabata: We were doing a lot of fact finding. Our
Chief of Engineer, Michael Moule did a lot of work.
Chair Kagawa: Councilmember Yukimura, question?
Ms. Yukimura: I would like to make sure you are proposing
options and you will not act on them until our next meeting so Mr. Abreu will have
a chance to be here?
Mr. Tabata: I do not think it is our place to propose
options. This is not a County facility. We were just asked to investigate and look at
possible solutions that we can toss out and bring forward. So our Chief of Engineer,
Michael Moule did a very thorough investigation and we are here to present the
findings because a lot of what was discussed on the floor previously was hearsay
and so he investigated all of the facts and we hope that is what we will be
presenting today.
Chair Kagawa: Okay. As Committee Chair I will allow
Public Works to give their presentation, I will ask for a deferral it after they are
done, and if we need Public Works again in two (2) weeks, we can call them up.
Ms. Yukimura: So I am good with that as long as...because I
just...I do not understand that it is not us to implement the options. It is not for the
County to implement the options. So I was worried that there would be some
implementation prior to getting the information from Mr. Abreu and that does not
look like that is the problem. So what I am understanding is we will hear their
presentation, defer the matter to two (2) weeks from now when Mr. Abreu will be
able to come and speak, to give his response. Right?
Chair Kagawa: Councilmember Hooser.
Mr. Hooser: It kind of does not sit right when it was
stated that it is not our responsibility to present options. I understand that is the
position.
Mr. Tabata: No, it is not our responsibility to implement
corrective action. We can make recommendations and I think we are prepared to do
that. And correct me if I am wrong, but that is how I understand the situation and
after Mr. Moule has presented all of the facts, I think you will possibly agree.
Mr. Hooser: You are presenting options and the question
then is implementation. Whether it is the County's responsibility or not, or whether
the County would like to take the responsibility or not, would be a question we can
talk after. Why do you not present the options first? We might have a difference of
opinion on the implementation.
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Chair Kagawa: Before they go, Councilmember Rapozo?
Mr. Rapozo: Yes, Lyle was Mr. Abreu informed of what
you are presenting today?
Mr. Tabata: I did not understand it as that was our role.
We were asked to investigate. I thought...
Mr. Rapozo: ...he was going to be here today.
Mr. Tabata: And that the communication was coming
through this body.
Mr. Rapozo: Yes, it was and I apologize. Apparently, as
Mr. Kagawa talked about the Chair was not able to or did not make contact with
Mr. Abreu.
Mr. Tabata: If the body wants we can come back in two
(2) weeks. We are totally prepared to do that.
Mr. Rapozo: I do not want to be the one to ask you
because you folks have been very receptive and responsive up until this point, even
getting Christiane to climb over a fence to that which was a sight but I mean I just
do not know, as I was talking to Michael and he said it was about a half an hour
presentation.
Mr. Tabata: Yes. He has a lot of data and we are
prepared if the body wishes to defer we can.
Mr. Rapozo: Like I said I think that would make sense
only because the other parties will be here.
Mr. Tabata: We agree.
Mr. Rapozo: Otherwise they will be here in two (2) weeks
and we are going to call you up again. I just feel really bad about that because it is
not your fault. You guys are here as was the agreement and it was our side that
messed up and did not get back to Mr. Abreu. Where you not supposed to be going
on a vacation or something at some point or you threw that away?
MICHAEL MOULE, Chief of Engineering: I am Michael Moule, Chief of
Engineering. My vacation is not till July. It was a misunderstanding. Not till the
end of July so I am here on July 2, 2014.
Mr. Rapozo: Okay. I am not a member of the Committee.
Chair Kagawa: As Committee Chair, I just have a question.
How long is your presentation or explanation?
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Mr. Tabata: We rehearsed yesterday and it is possibly
half an hour. There is a lot of data.
Chair Kagawa: Oh, it is half an hour. My recommendation
and I apologize too that you guys had to wait around but I do not think Mr. Abreu
would appreciate having had to wait from 11:00 a.m. till now anyways because we
spent a lot of time on the previous agenda item, so if you can come back in two (2)
weeks I would really appreciate it and then we get everything one time.
Mr. Tabata: Okay, we agree.
Chair Kagawa: Members, can we get a motion?
Upon motion duly made by Councilmember Yukimura, seconded by
Councilmember Hooser, and carried by a vote of 4:0:1 (Councilmember Chock
was excused), C 2014-89, was deferred.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 4:11 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Lori L. Marugame
Council Services Assistant I
APP 1 at t• • Committee Meeting held on July 2, 2014:
R•SS KAGAWA
CHAIR, PWPR COMMITTEE