HomeMy WebLinkAbout 01/17/2013 Special Council Meeting-Interviews SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING
JANUARY 17, 2013
The Special Meeting of the Council of the County of Kaua`i, was called to
order by the Council Chair at the Council Chambers, 4396 Rice Street, Suite 201,
Lihu`e, Kaua`i, on Wednesday, January 17, 2013 at 8:35 a.m., after which the
following members answered the call of the roll:
Honorable Tim Bynum
Honorable Gary L. Hooser
Honorable Ross Kagawa
Honorable Nadine K. Nakamura
Honorable Mel Rapozo
Honorable JoAnn A. Yukimura
Honorable Jay Furfaro, Council Chair
APPROVAL OF AGENDA.
Mr. Bynum moved for approval of the agenda as circulated, seconded by
Mr. Hooser, and unanimously carried.
INTERVIEW:
PUBLIC ACCESS, OPEN SPACE, AND NATURAL
RESOURCES PRESERVATION FUND COMMISSION:
• Theodore K. Blake — Term ending 12/31/2015
FIRE COMMISSION:
• Eugene Keith Jimenez — Term ending 12/31/2013
Chair Furfaro: Mr. Blake, may we ask you to come up?
THEODORE K. BLAKE: Good morning.
Chair Furfaro: Good morning. Thank you very much for being
here and more importantly, thank you very much for consideration, as this
appointment is an appointment that fills one of the Council's vacancies. We also
have it for a position that deals with the Koloa, Lawa`i, and Po`ipu area, of which is
where your family home is. You are very familiar with the area. On that note, I
would like to start by asking you to just give some background on yourself to the
group. I know we are all familiar with you, Ted, but let us give you some time here.
Mr. Blake: I was born and raised on Kaua`i. I attended Koloa
School, Kamehameha Schools, College of Idaho, and the University of Hawai`i. I
worked in the Hotel Industry for a number of years as the Sales Manager at the
`Ilikai Hotel, and Tour and Travel. I also worked as a Real Estate Broker for Moana
Corporation—Principal Broker. I have had a plant nursery and I have involved
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myself in a lot of community work in the last fifteen (15) years. The present
position that I hold is the Executive Director for Ma-lama Koloa, which is concerned
with the preservation and maintenance of our wahi pana, which we have a
tremendous amount in Koloa. The project for the island's first State Designated
Scenic Byway. We just completed our Corridor Management Plan and we are on
our way to apply for a National Scenic Byway. We have good remarks from the
State and the National Consultants. The State feels that the Scenic Byway in
Koloa will probably be the top Scenic Byway in the State. The National
Consultants feel that it will be one of the top three (3). Interestingly, our Scenic
Byway is only nineteen point five (19.5) miles. Most scenic byways average fifty
(50) something miles. In that nineteen point five (19.5) miles, all of the history of
Hawaii, as it starts in Koloa.
We are a microcosm in the history of Hawaii. We have a tremendous asset,
not just for our local residents Statewide, but also for our tourists. It will be an
economic boom, economic stimulant to the area. We have so much history in Koloa.
The first white man was in Koloa—first, Captain Cook. Sugar started there. We
have a tremendous agricultural field system in an area that most people do not even
consider to be suitable for agriculture. That is the Koloa Field System in Po`ipu.
We want to bring all of this back. We have been in negotiations with the new
trustees of the Knudsen families to maintain the remaining wahi pana that is left
in Po`ipu. This is a major, major switch from the previous relations we had with the
Knudsen family. The last two (2) Saturdays ago, I took the trustees on the tour of
the Koloa Field System, and in the field to show them some of the wahi pana there.
They were just amazed. This family has owned this land for over a hundred (100)
years. They were amazed at what was there, what was planned to be demolished,
and they want to save it all. Christmas came early.
Chair Furfaro: Ted, may I ask you, just for the audience and
maybe even a few of the Councilmembers; as we reference wahi pana, we know it as
places that are special and so forth, could you just expand on that when you use it
in your dialogue for the public.
Mr. Blake: Wahi means "place." Wahi pana refers to our
archaeological sites. You will also hear wahi kapu, which is iwi or ali i places.
Wahi kapuna are older archaeological sites. They are all archaeological and
historical sites.
Chair Furfaro: Thank you for that. Members, are there any
questions for Mr. Blake? I guess that is a good indication. I do want you folks to
know that I approached Mr. Blake as a candidate from the Council and I felt that
with his background and the need to prioritize some of these particular areas as we
build funds; he would be a great resource for the Committee.
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Ms. Nakamura: Thank you, Chair, for helping to fill this position
that has been vacant for quite a while. Thank you, Ted, for being willing to fill in
this position. We have tried to make some changes to the Open Space Commission
Ordinance to give the Open Space Commission more tools to do things beyond just
an annual list of recommendations. What we are doing is working with the
Commission more closely to develop a set of criteria in how to select once you do the
annual report, to prioritize, and really to work with the dedicated Staff people there
to carry out and implement some of these recommendations. That is one area that I
hope—it looks like you will be appointed to this Commission, that you will focus on
that and implementation. There has been so much talk and great
recommendations,but not enough action and implementation. I think that can only
come from not only the Council's interest, but also the Commission's review of the
Staff and what they are doing. That is just more of a comment than a question,
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Mr. Blake: Can I share something with you?
Ms. Nakamura: Sure.
Mr. Blake: As I look at Open Spaces, this is something that
has come about maybe twenty (20) to twenty-five (25) years ago. Prior to that, there
were no problems with Open Spaces. I think we have to move towards balance. We
have a lot of malihini that has moved to the island. They come with a different
perspective of aina. As residents of Kaua`i, we kind of grow up learning to be good
hosts, welcoming hosts. We just have to teach though, that the malihini that come,
to be welcoming guests. I think this is something that I would like to move towards
because if we can do that, all the legalities that we face right now will probably
dissipate. It is just a matter of...it is just getting back to taking the high road and
treating them with respect and dignity as we ask them to treat us with respect and
dignity. Not everybody has the opportunity to live on the beach and when
somebody does live on the beach, it is not like, "This is mine, and you are out." This
is not how we live here and I think if we can put that forward in a respectful and
dignified way, I think we will have a lot less pilikia. Thank you.
Ms. Nakamura: Thank you.
Mr. Bynum: Ted, I do not really have any questions, but I do
want to comment about Open Space. I am thrilled that you would join this
Commission. It is I think, a great Commission right now—a real active and diverse
group of individuals. As Councilmember Nakamura mentioned, the Council passed
regulations and passed an Ordinance that gave the Commission more authority,
more latitude to address advocacy, and access that has been denied. Unlike other
Commissions, they have a substantial amount of funds coming in every year. They
have a full-time Staff person at Planning. They are currently pursuing accessed
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denied through eminent domain at the Hoban property in Po`ipu. They are also
looking at reestablishing the access at Kauapea that was lost to the community and
the Council recently passed a Resolution asking them to look at Papa`a Bay and
options for that lost access. They are not just about access, but I am really anxious
to see how this Commission proceeds. Over the last couple years, they are poised to
do wonderful things for our community, and I am thrilled that you could be part of
it. Thank you.
Ms. Yukimura: Thank you, Chair, for inviting Teddy to come on
board. I wish I had thought of it. I do have a question. There is so many—first of
all, I really appreciated your comments about being able to find common ground and
how we treat each other, both kama aina and malihini. There are a lot of places
that need potential work with the Commission and potential acquisition. Land is so
expensive, so the resources cannot cover everything we want to inquire. How do
you see setting priorities amongst the various possibilities?
Mr. Blake: I would look at it where the areas that are most
utilized and prioritize your...like if it is in Po`ipu, a lot of people go to Po`ipu. If it is
Lawa`i, probably not as many people go there. I would prioritize it that way.
Another thing that is a big problem on your accessing...I have been gathering limu
for many years. You have accesses but they are overgrown with plants coming from
either side. Opening it up, if you open up the access, and make it accessible, I think
the perception from the public is that we are all working together. When they
see...just in the Koloa area, I know of three (3) accesses where naupaka has grown
over from adjacent lots and block the access. No one does anything about it. We
cannot expect the County crews to go over there, they have enough problems as they
have with Guinea Grass growing all over the place. Thank God Guinea Grass does
not grow on the beach. It is this type of thing and to prioritize what areas get the
most used because it does not make sense to spend a big, bunch of money on
someplace that a few people use.
Ms. Yukimura: Unless the value is natural area preservation. But
you are right about...I think you are alluding to the fact that public access, too, can
be a double-edged sword because if you have overuse, sometimes people not
knowing about the place actually protects it. I am remembering when I walked
with David Chang, Dot Towell, and others at Mand'ulepu with the Trust Republic
Lands who came from San Francisco. This was in the late 80's...no, the early 80's.
They were not in favor of making it into a park or anything because at that time,
they were worried that it would just be overrun. When you do give access, you also
have to have a management plan of some sort.
Mr. Blake: That opens up a whole different can of worms
because you have all these publications that Ultimate Kaua`i and this, that...
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Ms. Yukimura: That is what they were thinking about.
Mr. Blake: When I go down to Mand'ulepu and I see local
families there on weekends, but during the week, it is just inundated with visitors;
which is not a problem. Say for the fact that they are not ma a to the ocean
conditions or anything else, that becomes a problem.
Ms. Yukimura: That is correct. All of those issues of education and
management come up. It is a big job that you folks have taken on but I am glad you
are willing...
Mr. Blake: One step at a time.
Ms. Yukimura: Right. Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: Mr. Blake, thank you very much. We will be voting
on your Resolution later on today. I also want to say that next week we will have
Dorothea Hayashi on the calendar to fill the last vacancy of the Council's
appointment, and thanks very much to Mr. Kagawa, we have a candidate from the
Hanapepe, `Ele`ele area. Within a two (2) week period, we should have a pretty full
body. I look forward to voting for your appointment today.
Mr. Blake: Thank you for the confidence you shared by
nominating me.
Chair Furfaro: Thank you.
Mr. Blake: Aloha.
Chair Furfaro: We have our second interview next on this Special
Council Meeting. It will be an interview for the Fire Commission. The Fire Chief is
here as well. Would you call up Mr. Eugene Jimenez.
EUGENE KEITH JIMENEZ: Good morning, Chair Furfaro and members
of the Kaua`i County Council. My name is Eugene Jimenez and I am interested in
serving on the Fire Commission.
Chair Furfaro: Thank you very much, Eugene. I was very pleased
to see your name come up over to us. I want to say that your finance experience in
serving the County will certainly serve the Fire Commission well. I do want to also
share with you that the Fire Department is a Department that year after year, that
comes in within one and a half percent (1.5%) of their Budget margins, so we could
have used some of your talents on another Commission, but this is the Commission
that we have you on. I am sure that the Chief will be pleased with your
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contributions and your history there. I will be supporting you later today and now
let me ask if other Councilmembers have questions for you. Now is the time.
Mr. Jimenez: Thank you for your comments.
Mr. Bynum: Eugene, thank you for coming and thank you for
being willing to serve on the Fire Commission. I am sure you will be a great asset
to that Commission who has some outstanding Commissioners on it already. I want
to thank you for your thirty (30) years of service to the County of Kaua`i and I
congratulate you on your retirement. I told you when you retired, that we would
bring you back in some form, and it did not take that long. I am thrilled to have you
become a member of the Fire Commission.
Mr. Jimenez: Thank you very much. My wife was wondering
why I wanted to come back and serve in the Commission but that is neither here
nor there.
Chair Furfaro: Members, other questions for Eugene? We will be
voting on your appointment later today. Again, thank you for the experience you
will bring to the Fire Commission, especially as it relates to the financial end. I will
be supporting you, but that vote will be later on today by the Council as a body and
someone from our Office will then be contacting you.
Mr. Jimenez: Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: Thank you very much. Thank you for stepping
forward.
ADJOURNMENT.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 8:55 a.m.
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