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AUGUST 14, 2013
The Special Council Meeting of the Council of the County of Kaua`i was called
to order by the Council Chair Jay Furfaro at the Council Chambers, 4396 Rice
Street, Room 201, Lihu`e, Kauai, on Wednesday, August 14, 2013 at 8:36 a.m., after
which the following members answered the call of the roll:
Honorable Gary L. Hooser
Honorable Ross Kagawa
Honorable Nadine K. Nakamura
Honorable Mel Rapozo
Honorable JoAnn A. Yukimura
Honorable Jay Furfaro
Excused: Honorable Tim Bynum
APPROVAL OF AGENDA.
Mr. Rapozo moved for approval of the agenda as circulated, seconded by
Ms. Nakamura, and unanimously carried.
PUBLIC COMMENT.
Pursuant to Council Rule 13(e), members of the public shall be allowed a total of
eighteen (18) minutes on a first come, first served basis to speak on any agenda
item. Each speaker shall be limited to three (3) minutes at the discretion of the
Chair to discuss the agenda item and shall not be allowed additional time to speak
during the meeting. This rule is designed to accommodate those who cannot be
present throughout the meeting to speak when the agenda items are heard. After
the conclusion of the eighteen (18) minutes, other members of the public shall be
allowed to speak pursuant to Council Rule 12(e).
There being no one to give testimony at this time, the meeting proceeded as
follows:
INTERVIEWS:
KAUAI HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMISSION:
• Anne K. Schneider (Planning) — Term ending 12/31/2015
Ms. Schneider: Good morning, Councilmembers. I have
lived on Kaua`i for twenty-five (25) years. I have a Bachelor of Architecture, I have
worked for the Planning Department from 1989 — 1995, and I am a painter. I own a
business in Hanalei.
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Chair Furfaro: I like painting, but there are two (2) types of
painting, there is the one when you paint your house and the strokes go up and
down...
Ms. Schneider: I do that too.
Chair Furfaro: At the end of the day, you can actually see
that you made some progress, and then there is the other kind which, my hero is
Paul Gauguin. I would tell you that I really appreciate someone who has the
patience to capture something...
Ms. Schneider: At one time, I had paintings hanging in this
room.
Chair Furfaro: Oh, good. Well, Anne, is there anything else
you would like to share with us before I open it up for questions?
Ms. Schneider: I have an interest in historic preservation.
When I worked in the Planning Department, I did a workshop for the Planning
Commissioner's, the walking tour of Waimea and I worked with the Historic
Preservation people when we did the sewer project in Kapa`a.
Chair Furfaro: Members, questions of Anne?
Ms. Yukimura: Anne, you were in the Planning Department
when I was Mayor?
Ms. Schneider: Yes, I was.
Ms. Yukimura: I have not seen you for a long time. How did
the Mayor's Office find you?
Ms. Schneider: I have no idea.
Ms. Yukimura: Well, it is good to have you back in County
affairs.
Ms. Schneider: I was very interested in Historic
Preservation when I worked at the Planning Department. I worked hard to put the
historic properties on the maps, which they did not exist at the time. People could
come in and get a demolition permit and whoever signed off on it would not even
know there was a historic property there.
Ms. Yukimura: Thank you for that work and your work on
walking tours. It was of historic sites...
Ms. Schneider: Yes, it is very important to keep the
vernacular architecture of Kaua`i.
Ms. Yukimura: Yes.
Ms. Schneider: It is a beautiful place.
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Ms. Yukimura: Thank you very much for your willingness to
serve. I believe this is a pretty hard position to fill because it requires a special
background and it is wonderful that someone like you who has been here for so long
and has such a commitment to historic preservation.
Ms. Schneider: Well, as a painter, you have the appreciation
of things that go by and we do not want to lose these things on Kaua`i.
Ms. Yukimura: You certainly see a lot more than most
people do. Thank you.
Ms. Nakamura: Thank you, Anne for agreeing to serve. This
fills a specific nitch on the Historic Review Commission and that is someone with a
Planning background. There are not actually very many people on this island that
fit that background and so I am really glad that you are able to serve.
Ms. Schneider: Thank you for inviting me. I appreciate it
because, you know, you have a certain amount of knowledge, and it is a shame for it
to go to waste.
Ms. Nakamura: What do you see this Commission doing?
What do you think your contribution would be?
Ms. Schneider: I know that you get to review projects that
come before the Planning Commission so that if somebody with Planning experience
has... because most of the projects come through only as drawings rather than
models. I think it is very hard for people who do not have architectural background
to really assimilate to what they are looking at.
Ms. Nakamura: Do you see any areas where we could be
doing more?
Ms. Schneider: There are always areas where you could do
more. Just keeping the integral fabric of Kaua`i and not letting it become a strip
mall.
Ms. Nakamura: Thank you very much.
Chair Furfaro: Anne, I want to tell you how pleased I am for
your coming forward to...
Ms. Schneider: Oh, thank you for inviting me.
Chair Furfaro: I do a historic tour of this building. I have
taken a real passion to our hundred year old building.
Ms. Schneider: Did a wonderful job here in the restoration.
Chair Furfaro: Even last week we had a shade or two
difference in the window trim of the building, so, we repainted all the window trims
- a lot of detail. This building is now a hundred years old and yet it is the oldest
building operational from which it was for its original intent. It is just a real
delight studying the real detail of the building and so forth and the community has
come to really appreciate this building so much that we do tours one (1) Friday a
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month. It is just great to capture all that history in the architecture, design, and
the intent of doing business in this building. Someone with your background will
just be an absolute great addition and I just want to thank you for stepping forward.
I certainly will be voting for you later today.
Ms. Schneider: Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: Okay, if there are no more questions, I want
to thank you again. Okay, our second interview this morning, please.
CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION:
• Richard J. Jose — Term ending 12/31/2014
Mr. Jose: Good morning, Council. I reside in West
Kaua`i, but grew up in Puhi. I am married and have two (2) beautiful kids. I have
been involved in a lot of youth sports — Pop Warner, West Kaua`i baseball all the
way from Lihu`e and I am coaching all these Westside kids. Presently, I am a
business representative for the International Brotherhood of Electrical Worker
(IBEW). I got thirty-two (32) years in our business. I have been the business
representative for four (4) years. So, twenty-eight (28) years in the field managing
work and resolving differences in work. I have also been a steward at the
companies. I have worked all over the State — every major island. My background is
electrical work. I am an electrician and I will always call myself an electrician.
That is about it.
Chair Furfaro: Questions, members?
Ms. Yukimura: Richard, thank you for your willingness to
serve in this position. You said that you had two (2) beautiful children — I know that
you know that you have a beautiful wife too...
Mr. Jose: Am I being filmed on this?
Ms. Yukimura: You said twenty-eight (28) years of
experience, so you have a great deal of understanding of the workers' point of view
and this Civil Service Commission is involved in those issues of personnel and
Human Resources. It seems like you would bring an important prospective to the
Commission. Have you been in a Supervisory position?
Mr. Jose: Yes.
Ms. Yukimura: Even in your present position you do manage
things as well?
Mr. Jose: Yes.
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Ms. Yukimura: So you also have a management prospective,
would you say?
Mr. Jose: Yes, I do.
Ms. Yukimura: Okay. You may be aware of the County's
Personnel Department is going through a major transformation, are you aware of
that?
Mr. Jose: Yes, I kind of understand because I was
approached and was filled in just a little on it.
Ms. Yukimura: Right. Well, you will learn a lot in the job,
sort to speak. But we are moving from...sort of an old fashion Personnel
Department prospective to a Human Resources Department. It is very critical for
our County, because it has been...in its old style kind of an obstacle to our
Departments in getting good personnel services. We have also had a lack of
professionalism in this area that has actually been part of the reason for lawsuits,
settlements, and all sorts of things. My question is, are you ready and willing to be
involved in this, very sensitive time but it is going to take a lot of honest attention
and decision-making?
Mr. Jose: To answer the question and yes, I do have a
beautiful wife and her name is Brenda, in fact she wanted to come today and watch
me speak in front of you and I said, "No, I think you should stay home because you
will make me more nervous." I understand what you are saying and it is even more
important for me to be involved in the community and the direction of this County.
Like I told you before I am involved with many kinds of community services and
with my busy schedule, I can put attention to this very important and detailed
Commission. I would like to have the opportunity to learn and see what it is all
about. I kind of looked over the ethics portion about it and kind of know the... just
in little detail of what is happening with it right now. I put my full foot forward to
helping this Commission.
Ms. Yukimura: Thank you. That is really good to hear. The
main thing is a willingness to learn and a willingness to commit the time that is
needed. I hear that in your answer very clearly. I really appreciate your
willingness to do this. Thank you.
Mr. Jose: Thank you.
Mr. Kagawa: Thank you, Richard for willing to serve on
this very important Commission. I had the pleasure of meeting with you in my
Office a couple times. From what I gathered from you, is how serious you take your
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Union employees being professional. You even told me about how you trained them
there at that facility and to make sure that they follow safety guidelines and all of
that. To expand on Councilmember Yukimura's point, we are flooded with
personnel type lawsuits where it can be avoided if we follow professional standards
of how to do things. For example, opening a manhole cover — they teach them the
proper way to use that special tool, and then we find later that somebody gets hurt
because they decided to use a pick instead. This goes beyond that...instead of them
using a ladder, they use a five (5) gallon bucket and fall down. I just hope that you
can get in there and when these things happen, maybe help the Personnel
Department to come up with some corrective action so that we do not have these
repeat mistakes. I really hope that you can help in those areas because not only
does it hurt our... if we lose that Parks Caretaker, that park goes down because
there is nobody to replace or to temporarily cover. The taxpayers pay that big
medical expense. Sometimes they even ended up suing us even though they were
wrong and it is just a circle that I think sometimes our County does not react in
enough time and I am hoping that you would be willing to help us in that area.
Mr. Jose: Yes, I will help. As far as my Union
experience, we have a lot of safety aspects to our work. We train them from
Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) to National Fire Protection
Association (NFPA) — every type of training to do our type of work. Safety is number
one for us guys. I can hope and bring that experience as well to the Commission,
but also on the management side, how to manage some of that work and make sure
they try to follow the rules. Even for my guys, I have to be on them all the time
about safety. We have CPR, we have every class that you can think of in my facility
in Puhi now and it is a great asset for us. Hopefully, I am answering what you
want, but as far as helping the Commission look for problems and help solving the
problems, I will give my best ability.
Mr. Kagawa: Thank you. I think in that way from what I
am seeing happening in my first months on the Council, you are like the perfect fit.
The shoe that we needed. I hope that we can work together and try to make the
County run more efficient. Thank you.
Mr. Jose: You are welcome.
Ms. Nakamura: Thank you for considering being on this
Commission. I just wanted to clarify that there is one (1) position filled for the
Labor position on this Commission, which is the only requirement that I see. I just
wanted to clarify that that is the position that you are filling? I see some nods back
there.
Mr. Jose: Yes.
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Ms. Nakamura: One of the most, I think, important things
that this Commission is tasked with is the hiring and then the removal of the
Director. My understanding is that they are going through a recruitment process as
we speak?
Mr. Jose: Yes, I understand that they are going
through recruitment.
Ms. Nakamura: In our budget process, in the past few
budgets that I have gone through, one of the chief complaints that I have heard is
the length of time that it takes to fill positions within this County. I just hope that
is something that the Commission really takes a look at. Do you have any thoughts
on that?
Mr. Jose: As far as I know the length of time... I need
to be on the Commission to really grasp what it entails but to be fast and not be in a
hurry to make that decision. I think the time is not going to be that valuable if we
are not picking the right person, right?
Ms. Nakamura: That is right. I think that is the balance.
Not rushing the process if you do not have good candidates. Did you get a copy of
the Department's strategic plan?
Mr. Jose: No, I have not.
Ms. Nakamura: Okay. That is one thing that all candidates
will get. It is copies of the Annual Report from whatever the previous year is and
then the Strategic Plan because that came up during the budget process. My
feeling is if you are evaluating the work of your Director, that you need to have that
in front of you when you do that evaluation so you know whether they are achieving
the goals that they told the Council and the public that they are going to fulfill in
that year. I am hoping that kind of information will be given to candidates that
come up here and that becomes your guide for looking at the direction the
Department wants to move in and then how you evaluate that Director.
Mr. Jose: Again, the evaluation sheet, I have not seen
it. I think it would be an asset for a Commissioner to see that and to see if we are
moving in that direction that the Council and Commission needs to move forward,
but until I get into that position, I would not know.
Ms. Nakamura: Sure. I think that the perspective that you
bring and you're on-the-ground experience in training are going to be valuable, so I
really want to thank you for agreeing to serve.
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Mr. Jose: Thank you.
Ms. Yukimura: I am glad the Vice Chair raised the issue of
the selection of the Director of Personnel Services because that is probably the most
critical decision you will make. If you find the right person, your job and our job will
be much easier. If not, we are all going to have a harder time. I was really pleased
with your answer that... I mean I think there was a mix of discussion about filling
positions in the County, but filling that position and taking the time to make the
right decision is going to be a very good thing to do. I just want to reinforce that you
make a really careful decision in that area on behalf of all of us.
Mr. Jose: Yes, I believe this is going to be a more heavy
decision when I get more information, and I understand that position needs to be
filled.
Ms. Yukimura: Yes.
Mr. Jose: But again, until I get more information, I can
be more effective on it.
Ms. Yukimura: Yes, and do not hesitate to ask questions if
you feel you do not have the information, because it is your right to ask questions as
a member of the Commission.
Mr. Jose: I will ask more questions.
Ms. Yukimura: Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: Richard, I am delighted to have someone
such as yourself with as much bargaining unit and laboring experience to serve. I do
want to let you know that I am a regular visiting the Commission, so you might see
me in the very near future. Two of the things that I still think we need to get
onboard is the upward appraisal revisions of our Departments. I have spoken on
that and I will continue to promote the value in that. Also, the fact that to keep us
out of some trouble that Councilmember Kagawa had mentioned is that we need to
really have a strong understanding of progressive discipline through all of the
County and through the Departments. I think that is something that this
Commission can help us with. These are interpersonal skills that deal with the fact
that progressive discipline is about not only investing in our employees for their
own safety and that of the County, but we are consistently missing the points that
are being brought out about the way we do business and what a standard is in that
particular work area, it also could bring a safety issue to the attention of the
supervisors that we need to be consistent about. I will be voting for you today and I
will certainly visit with you. I hope your appointment will be successful and I will
see you at my next presentation. Thank you.
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Mr. Jose: Thank you, Councilmembers.
ADJOURNMENT.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:02 a.m.•lr
-_s ectfully •ubmitted,
Alli
JAD FOUNTAIN-TANIGAWA
Deputy County Clerk
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