HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/19/2014 Special Council Meeting minutes - Interviews SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING
FEBRUARY 19, 2014
The Special Council Meeting of the Council of the County of Kaua`i was called
to order by Council Chair Jay Furfaro at the Council Chambers, 4396 Rice Street,
Room 201, Lihu`e, Kaua`i, on Wednesday, February 19, 2014 at 8:36 a.m., after
which the following members answered the call of the roll:
Honorable Mason K. Chock, Sr.
Honorable Gary L. Hooser
Honorable Ross Kagawa
Honorable Mel Rapozo (present at 8:38 a.m.)
Honorable JoAnn A. Yukimura
Honorable Jay Furfaro
Excused: Honorable Tim Bynum
Chair Furfaro: I would like to go to approval of the agenda.
May I have a motion for the one (1) item in today's interview process?
APPROVAL OF AGENDA.
Mr. Chock moved for approval of the agenda as circulated, seconded by
Mr. Kagawa, and carried by a vote of 6:0:1 (Mr. Bynum was excused;
Mr. Rapozo was not present).
Chair Furfaro: Since there is only one (1) item on this
Special Council Meeting, is there anyone for time restrictions that wants to speak
now before we do public testimony after the interview? Seeing no one...you want to
speak now? Come right up.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
PUBLIC COMMENT.
Pursuant to Council Rule 13(e), members of the public shall be allowed a total of
eighteen (18) minutes on a first come, first served basis to speak on any agenda
item. Each speaker shall be limited to three (3) minutes at the discretion of the
Chair to discuss the agenda item and shall not be allowed additional time to speak
during the meeting. This rule is designed to accommodate those who cannot be
present throughout the meeting to speak when the agenda items are heard. After
the conclusion of the eighteen (18) minutes, other members of the public shall be
allowed to speak pursuant to Council Rule 12(e).
ALICE PARKER: Alice Parker. Good morning everybody. On
Bill No. 2516, barking dogs, I am here to yap again...
Chair Furfaro: I am sorry, Alice, you will have to wait until
9:00 a.m. for that item.
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Ms. Parker: Oh, okay.
Chair Furfaro: This is a Special Council Meeting dealing
with a commissioner's interview. When we finish that at 9:00 a.m., it will be a
Committee Meeting and there will be time at the beginning to speak then. This is
Council, next one is Committee. Thank you. Is there anyone else that wants to
speak on this agenda item, which is dealing with an interview for Brandon
Shimokawa? If not, may I ask that Brandon to come up and could you read the
agenda item please?
INTERVIEW:
COST CONTROL COMMISSION:
• Brandon H. Shimokawa (At-Large)— 12/31/2016
Chair Furfaro: Thank you. Welcome. Good morning,
Brandon.
BRANDON H. SHIMOKAWA: Good morning.
Chair Furfaro: I am going to give you the floor. You
introduce yourself, and you can speak a little bit on behalf of yourself about your
background and then we will do some Q&A from the members.
Mr. Shimokawa: Sure.
Chair Furfaro: So you have the floor.
Mr. Shimokawa: Good morning, Councilmembers. Thank you
for hearing me this morning. My name is Brandon H. Shimokawa. I was born on
O`ahu. My father is from Kauai, my mother is from the Big Island, and we moved
to Kaua`i when I was eleven (11). I attended Wilcox Elementary School for sixth
grade and moved on to Kaua`i High School where I graduated. Upon graduation in
1998, I left to attend college at the University of Illinois where I received a
Bachelors of Science in Finance. Then upon graduating from there in 2002, I began
working for Nava Star International Corporation, which is a heavy manufacturing
company based out of Chicago, Illinois. I was employed with that company for ten
(10) years and moved throughout various positions within the company traveling to
plants in Texas, Alabama, and Chicago as well as working in the corporate
headquarters. I have had experience in that company working in the corporate
Treasury Department, working at manufacturing plants, working at the engine
division, all mostly relating to finance and accounting jobs. My most recent position
there was a Plant Controller for the Melrose Park Engine Plant, which was a five
hundred (500) person manufacturing facility. We shipped roughly sixty to eighty
thousand (60,000— 80,000) diesel engines, ten to eleven (10 — 11) liter diesel engines
a year and our annual revenues were half a billion dollars annually. I was in that
position for three (3) years when I decided to move back home to be closer to family
and I was lucky to have an opportunity to work at Kauai Community College where
I am currently employed. I am the Vice Chancellor for Administrative Services
there, which has responsibility over four (4) functional areas, the fiscal or business
office, Human Resources (HR), Facilities, and Public Safety. So, that is the brief,
my brief background. Do you have any questions?
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Chair Furfaro: Yes. So you are a Fighting Illini?
Mr. Shimokawa: Yes, but I was not much of a sports fan. We
had a pretty good basketball team when I was there.
Chair Furfaro: Okay. Let me ask you, where you contacted
by the Administration to step forward to volunteer for this or is this something you
wanted to initiate as a volunteer contribution to the County?
Mr. Shimokawa: I was contacted by John Isobe to serve and
he spoke to me about wanting to get the younger generations involved in the County
government and so I said "Sure, why not."
Chair Furfaro: Well I will thank John for encouraging you to
do this and I want to thank you for stepping forward. Pretty impressive financial
background here and our Cost Control Commission is one that I believe really is
required to spend a little bit more time on our staffing guides for the County. We
have issues at budget time that speak of large variances between what was staffed
for in the budget and what the actual result are and we have trends that are
reducing budgeted amounts like the Police Department to the point that they are
not qualifying for the appropriate amount of overtime which they have a trend of
running to the point of almost half a million. Then we have some departments like
the new Human Resources (HR) Department that has a trend of under spending
substantially from what they were budgeted so clearly there is a problem on the
staffing guidelines when we do the interpretation. Do you, within this Plant
Management/Plant Cost Control, do you have much experience with staffing guides?
Actual versus trend?
Mr. Shimokawa: Yes. The entire gambit from developing
budgets, which incorporate planning for head count or manpower, and then
analyzing your actual to your budget or your standard, and looking at all of the
variances and the root causes or the drivers for those fluctuations. I have a lot of
experience with that.
Chair Furfaro: Our payroll in the County represents, along
with Payroll, Taxes and Employee (PT&E), benefits and so forth, representing
about eighty-three percent (83%) of our budget in cost and so that is a big, big
portion for us to be able to reconcile with the appropriate staffing guides. Have you
served in other volunteer positions in any form of government or community?
Mr. Shimokawa: No, this would be the first.
Chair Furfaro: This would be the first. Okay. Well thank
you very much for stepping forward.
Mr. Shimokawa: Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: JoAnne, you had questions?
Ms. Yukimura: Thank you for your willingness to serve. You
are highly qualified from what I can tell from what you have said, well spoken,
highly educated, and what I like is very experienced in systems operations. So you
said that you are Vice Chancellor at the Kaua`i Community College which is
certainly a plus for them and you are in charge of Human Resources, Facilities,
Public Facilities and what was the fourth area?
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Mr. Shimokawa: The Fiscal Office and Public Safety.
Ms. Yukimura: Okay. Kudos to Mr. Isobe, for finding you
and for Ms. Morikawa for helping orient you to this process. Do you have any
particular areas you think we should focus on or is this too early to ask that
question?
Mr. Shimokawa: Yes, it is too early. When I first join I think I
am just going to listen and learn about how the County operates and then go from
there. I do not have any experience at all with the County's functioning as a entity
so I have to just go based off of what all the other commissioners...
Ms. Yukimura: You are fairly new to your present position.
Mr. Shimokawa: Correct. Just under a year.
Ms. Yukimura: Have you been involved in any other public
operations before?
Mr. Shimokawa: No. The only thing and it is through the
college, we were asked to send a representative to be on the Lihu`e Community plan
and so I am a member of that workshop.
Ms. Yukimura: Of the Citizens Advisory Committee to the
Lihu`e Community Plan?
Mr. Shimokawa: Correct, yes.
Ms. Yukimura: That is a very, very interesting process.
Mr. Shimokawa: Yes, I am learning a lot from there but aside
from that, this is my first exposure to the operation of any kind of governmental
unit.
Ms. Yukimura: But assuming you take this position and
which I do not have any questions that you will be approved, you will be looking at a
large State operation, a large County operation and then a community planning
process, so that will be a lot to be involved in and they are good.
Mr. Shimokawa: Yes and I think there is a lot of overlap.
Whether it is the functioning of the smaller college which has all of the State
administrative procedures to follow or the County, I think there will be a lot of
overlap and a lot of areas for the sharing of ideas and best practices so that is one of
the benefits, I think, of me serving on this commission is to bring back to my day
job.
Ms. Yukimura: And you said you have been in Hawai`i for
ten (10) years or back in Hawai`i for ten (10) years?
Mr. Shimokawa: No, just one (1) year. So after I left for
college, I was on the mainland for roughly fourteen (14) years and then just moved
back last December of 2012.
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Ms. Yukimura: Oh, I see. So somewhere in here you had ten
(10) years in Hawai`i. Maybe not.
Mr. Shimokawa: I was with my former employer for ten (10)
years, Nava Star on the mainland.
Ms. Yukimura: And that is the one with the half a billion
dollar budget.
Mr. Shimokawa: Yes, I was at that plant for the last three (3)
years of my employment with Nava Star.
Ms. Yukimura: And you said that plant manufactured what?
Mr. Shimokawa: Diesel engines.
Ms. Yukimura: And where was it?
Mr. Shimokawa: It was roughly fifteen (15) miles outside of
downtown Chicago.
Ms. Yukimura: Diesel engines for what purposes?
Mr. Shimokawa: Mostly for medium duty trucks. So dump
trucks or snow plows, also school buses. The company was an intergraded
manufacture so they made the engines that went into its trucks and buses. So it
was vertically intergrated.
Ms. Yukimura: Well that is a great way to really understand
the manufacturing process and sales.
Mr. Shimokawa: Right, but as the Chairman represented for
the County Council's budget, the vast majority of your costs, your operational costs
are salaries, wages or employee benefit or employment costs. It was the same for
our company. Most of our costs at the plant were either salaries, wages or benefits
and when you take a look at how much you are paying for even all of the raw
materials that you purchase, the majority of the cost there are the conversion cost
or the labor cost that go into producing the raw materials that you then take and
combine into this larger engine so a lot of it circulated around our workforce cost
and we did have a representative workforce there as well. I am familiar with some
of processes around collective bargaining.
Ms. Yukimura: Well that is very impressive background and
I am very excited that you will be on the Cost Control Commission because we need
minds and perspectives like yours. Thank you very much.
Mr. Shimokawa: Thank you very much.
Chair Furfaro: Mr. Rapozo, you have the floor now.
Mr. Rapozo: Mr. Chair I have a question. Thank you, for
being here today. You are currently employed by the State?
Mr. Shimokawa: Correct.
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Mr. Rapozo: Mr. Chair with that we need to take a recess.
I suggest that everyone read Section 21.01 because I believe that there is an issue
and I would like to clarify this with Boards & Commissions. Could we take a five
(5) minute if possible?
There being no objections, the meeting was recessed at 8:51 a.m.
The meeting reconvened at 8:56 a.m., and proceeded as follows:
Chair Furfaro: Brandon, thank you very much for...no, just
stay right there...we are stepping on the side here. We are going to consult with the
County Attorney and with Paula's office as well. Mr. Rapozo, I am going to give him
the floor back. He raises a good question as it relates to this particular commission
because I believe this was amended twice because we have had this problem before
but I am going to give you the floor, Mr. Rapozo.
Mr. Rapozo: Thank you, Mr. Chair. First of all, I would
like to apologize to Brandon, who came out here today and I was really, really
excited hearing his answers and I guess it slipped by me that this commission, by
charter does not allow any employees of government to serve. It is one (1) of those
law, like some states have you cannot eat onions on Thursdays, you know, you
cannot...it is still on the books. Councilmember Yukimura and I have talked about
co-sponsoring an amendment, a potential Charter Amendment for this because it
does say...it says "there shall be a Cost Control Commission composed of seven (7)
members not employed in government service." Unfortunately, the applicant is
employed by the State so it would disqualify him from this Commission. Again, it is
hard for me to sit here and do this but we have to honor the Charter, Mr. Chair.
That is why I called for the recess. It is definitely no reflection on Brandon because
I was excited that we were going to get someone really qualified in a commission
that he could serve well in. I am hoping we can find another spot and we can utilize
his talent. That was the purpose, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the time and I will
pursue with Councilmember Yukimura a Charter Amendment resolution to get this
changed. I do not understand why, there must be a reason why but we have to
research but at this stage, I am not sure that it is beneficial. Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: Now, to the County Attorney and Paula, I
would like to ask you folks, this has been amended twice and we had, as Mr. Rapozo
pointed out, we had a previous issue with this. I thought we were clear but I would
like you to go back with Paula's office and take a closer look at this for us. Let us
get some really defining outline of what needs to be done especially since
Councilmembers Yukimura and Rapozo are prepared to raise a change and I think
that is all fair and well. I am going to ask you to do a closer review on this question
and does government employment also mean through the University of Hawai`i
system. Thank you for the time. I am going to ask Brandon to come up and chat
with me again. Would you want to add anything Paula?
PAULA M. MORIKAMI: I want to thank Councilmember Mel Rapozo
for bringing that to our attention. I hope that maybe somehow we will look at what
other positions we have for Boards & Commissions as Mr. Rapozo has stated and we
will research it further and I thank Mr. Rapozo and Ms. Yukimura for considering a
Charter Amendment. Thank you very much.
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Chair Furfaro: Paula, please understand what I said. I am
asking you for a closer review. I do not want to say that we have a young man home
in our community, very talented, certainly meets the criteria of what we wanted as
both Mr. Rapozo and Ms. Yukimura has pointed out. Let us not totally step away
from this opportunity should we get a better and clearer definition.
Ms. Morikami: Okay, I will work with the County Attorneys
Office. Thank you, Chair.
Chair Furfaro: Bandon, may I ask you to come up again?
Thank you very much, both of you. Brandon, I guess you have heard what we have
within the Charter as clearly a conflict here. We need to look into it a little deeper.
I want to also say that you are an excellent candidate, especially for the Cost
Control Commission. With your background, your financial understanding, your
forecasting, your staffing guide experience, exactly what we need but we do have
this hurdle. In the mean time, I am certain that we will encourage Paula to look at
other Boards & Commissions that you may qualify for until we get some clarity and
we would again ask you to step forward then but on behalf of the Council, I am
sorry it took us this far to raise the question. I thank Mr. Rapozo for raising it but
the rules are what the rules are right now and good to have you home. Good luck in
your role at the college but I am sure we will be calling on you again.
Mr. Shimokawa: Not a problem. Thank you very much for you
time.
Chair Furfaro: Any other members want to speak?
Mr. Kagawa.
Mr. Kagawa: Thank you, Chair. Brandon, I would like to
thank you for submitting your name and I too was impressed with your background,
your roots here, and I thought it was a great fit. Hopefully, we can get a Charter
Amendment passed so for the future, if this happens, it will not be a barrier from
getting good people to represent on the Cost Control Commission. Hopefully, Paula
can find another slot for you and one of the Boards I really thought that you would
fit in well is the Water Board because they tend to have problems with spending
and controlling their overtime and what not. I think a person that comes from the
outside, private sector can really help a big entity like that to do some cost cutting
measures. So we will look at maybe that Board as to when those vacancies come up
but think the Water Board really needs some sound financial management in there
and I think you can help with that. Thank you, Brandon.
Mr. Shimokawa: Thank you very much.
Chair Furfaro: Any other members? JoAnn.
Ms. Yukimura: I too want to apologize. I am very distressed
but there is a silver lining to this and that is with someone as qualified as you are in
the position that you are, I think it makes the Charter Amendment, I mean the
present Charter provision so ridiculous. As Councilmember Rapozo mentioned, we
will be introducing a Charter Amendment and it would be for this election so in
another eight (8) months we should have that removed. I am thinking, someone as
yourself, makes it so clear to the public that it is a really unreasonable prohibitional
provision. So that will help us get the amendment passed. I sort of hope that you
will stay with the Cost Control Commission and in eight (8) months be able to be
appointed to it because I think it is, as others have said, such a great fit. I would
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love to have you look through the eyes of a Cost Control Commissioner at our
operations. Thank you for being here and I am so sorry that we are not able to
approve it today but we will look forward to having you serve.
Mr. Shimokawa: Well, thank you very much and thank you
for your sentiments.
Ms. Yukimura: Thank you.
Chair Furfaro: Any other members wish to speak at this
time? No, okay. Brandon, I am sorry we have discovered this at this time but
please do not give up on us and your volunteerism. Your talents would be well
serving in many of the Boards & Commissions and I am sure you will be hearing
from us again.
Mr. Shimokawa: Thank you very much, Chairman.
Chair Furfaro: Thank you. Thank you so much.
Mr. Shimokawa: Good day.
Chair Furfaro: Is there anyone that wishes to speak on this
topic? Alice, please come up.
Ms. Parker: Thank you. Alice Parker. I would like to say
this talented young man would be an asset on the Boards & Commissions and I
hope that the prohibition is just a remnant of the Hatch Act which I thought was
repealed and I hope that can be clarified because we certainly could use it. Thank
you.
Chair Furfaro: Alice, we will be asking the County Attorney
and Paula to be looking into that. Thank you. Any more testimony?
The meeting was called back to order at 9:06 a.m., and proceeded as follows:
Chair Furfaro: Any further comments from the Board?
Mr. Rapozo.
Mr. Rapozo: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Again, as Alice has
said, hopefully, it is a remnant; hopefully it is something that we can remove. I am
going to do the research to find out why it is there. There has got to be a reason and
if it is a reason that it needs to stay then obviously, in my opinion it should stay but
at this point I do not see the logic. The other thing, and I spoke to Brandon on the
break, was that we could resolve this today by him just quitting the college but he
said no he would not do that. Mr. Chair, thank you for the time and hopefully we
can get some resolution to this. Thank you.
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Chair Furfaro: Any other comments? If not, Brandon, thank
you very much. My sincere apology for this hurdle but it is only a hurdle and as you
heard I have asked the County Attorney to take a closer look at the current status
of this piece. Thank you very much. On that note, I am going to adjourn the
Special Council Meeting of this morning and we will be back for the scheduled
Committee Meeting in five (5) minutes. Five (5) minutes.
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:07 a.m.
Respectfully sub is itte
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