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Minutes of Meeting
OPEN SESSION
Board/Committee:
FIRE COMMISSION
Meeting Date
I January 5, 2015
Location
Mo`ikeha Building, Meeting Room 2A/213
Start of Meeting: 2:00 p.m.
End of Meeting: 3:14 p.m.
Present
Chair Jesse Fukushima; Vice Chair Eugene Jimenez; Members: Dan Brown, Savita Agarwal; Jimmy Miranda (arrived at 2:05 p.m.), and
Bradley Maruyama (arrived at 2:08 p.m.)
Also present: Fire Chief Robert Westerman; Boards & Commissions Office Staff: Support Clerk Mercedes Omo and Administrator
Paula Morikami
Excused
quorum.
Absent
Heidy Huddy- Yamamoto
SUBJECT
DISCUSSION
ACTION
Call To Order
Chair Fukushima called the meeting to order at
2:00 p.m. with 4 members present, constituting a
quorum.
Approval of
■ Regular Open Session Minutes of December 8, 2014
Mr. Brown moved to approve the open session
Minutes
■ Executive Session Minutes of December 8, 2014
minutes and the executive session minutes of
December 8, 2014. Ms. Agarwal seconded the
motion. Motion carried 4:0.
Chiefs Monthly
1. Overview for month of December 2014 and pertinent updates
Report
2. Fiscal Report as of November 30, 2014
Chief Westerman provided the Commissioners with an overview of the
monthly and budget reports.
Chair Fukushima asked how many flight hours Air accumulated during the
Hanakapiai rescue to which Fire Chief Westerman replied he believes the
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flight hours for that particular rescue operation took roughly 4 to 5 hours to
complete.
Prevention Bureau
Chief Westerman stated the Fire Department is currently looking to change
the ordinance to include a failure fee. He explained that the proposed fee
will be incorporated into the certificate of occupancy, but will cost the
owner a penalty payment if anything fails. Vice Chair Jimenez asked how
much is the certificate of occupancy fee presently to which Chief
Westerman replied the current certificate of occupancy fee is 12 %, which is
what the Department of Public Works charges for a building permit. Chief
Westerman explained that the failure fee is being proposed because the fire
inspectors are finding themselves having to do a series of inspections to find
other failures instead of doing the usual certificate of occupancy inspection.
Ocean Safety Bureau
Chair Fukushima asked how many water safety personnel are qualified to
operate the jet skis to which Chief Westerman replied about 25 water safety
personnel are qualified to operate the jet skis.
Commissioner Miranda asked how many jet skis does the department have
to which Chief Westerman replied the department currently has a total of
eight jet skis that are kept in service in each of the different districts
throughout the island.
Commissioner Agarwal asked if the department has a sufficient number of
life guards to which Chief Westerman replied the department could always
use more. In fact, during this year's budget out of the four part-time life
guard positions the department will be converting two of its part-time
positions into full -time positions, which should improve staffing.
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Commissioner Agarwal asked once a person passes the lifeguard test how
long does it take for that person to become a full- fledged lifeguard to which
Chief Westerman replied most of the part-time positions normally go
through a short term hiring process, which is good because it gives the
department the opportunity to test their skills further, and to see how serious
that person is to want to stay employed.
Commissioner Miranda asked if the department accepts volunteers from the
community who want to be a lifeguard to which Chief Westerman replied
the issue really boils down to the union agreement and the training aspect.
Chair Fukushima stated he recalls back in the 70's and 80's the Kauai
Police Department implemented a volunteer program in which the
volunteers themselves would wear a uniform (minus the weapon) to help
direct traffic whenever there was a need for it. He questioned whether the
Fire Department would consider that type of a program where members of
community could come in and sign up to become a volunteer lifeguard to
assist with the ocean recuses. Chief Westerman replied from what he
understands a lot of the ocean rescues that have occurred were done by local
surfers, and even the Junior Lifeguards have gotten involved by pointing
out all of the bad spots to the people on the beach.
Daily Flight Log
Chair Fukushima pointed out he noticed there were no maintenance hours
recorded in the maintenance column to show how many hours were put in
to maintain the aircraft (Air I) to which Chief Westerman replied although
the report does not reflect the amount of maintenance hours he can assure
the Commission that each morning and night the aircraft (Airl) undergoes a
series of maintenance inspections before and after a flight occurs.
Communications
KFC 2015 -01 Fire Commission Budget and Expense Report
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Chief Westerman shared that Deputy Chief John Blalock will be
transferring from his current position to the positon of Captain within the
next 30 days.
Chair Fukushima asked what is the status on filling the deputy's position in
terms of hiring in -house personnel to fill the positon to which Chief
Westerman replied he is looking at all of his options, but is nowhere near to
making a decision. In fact, he is unsure whether or not he can fill the
position from within in that short period of time. Chair Fukushima stated
from his standpoint, he would like to think that someone from within, who
is well versed and has the appropriate schooling, will be selected to fill the
deputy's positon before any consideration is made to hire someone from the
outside.
Chief Westerman explained the problem has nothing to do with finding a
qualified person from within the department to fill the position because the
concern is with the inversion issue. He stated with a $40,000 to $50,000
pay difference the deputy's position salary is lower than his subordinates,
which makes it very difficult for someone to want to step in to the position.
Chair Fukushima stated it would take a different type of person to want to
run a department with a salary lower than his subordinates, and still be able
to manage the department to a certain standard without having any
expectations.
Commissioner Miranda asked how much does the Deputy Fire Chief make
to which Chief Westerman replied $105,000 with no overtime and
premiums. Chair Fukushima stated the discrepancy within the civil service
system is nothing new and he would like to think that in Deputy Blalock's
case, regardless of what position he decides to pursue, the amount of
experience and knowledge he has will be a great asset to the administration.
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Deputy County Attorney Hall advised the Commissioners to refrain from
discussing the Deputy Fire Chief's salary because it is not part of the
agenda. Chair Fukushima stated in light of counsel's advice he asked that
the matter be place on the next agenda in accordance to the Sunshine Law.
Staff acknowledged the Chair's request.
Mr. Jimenez moved to receive the Budget and
With no further discussion, Chair Fukushima called for a motion to receive
Expense Report for the record. Mr. Miranda
the Chief monthly Budget and Expense Report for record.
seconded the motion. The motion carried 6:0.
KFC 2015 -01 Fire Commission Expense Report
Chair Fukushima stated he would like to suspend the rules and call Ms.
Morikami to the floor to provide input on whether any changes or revisions
were made to the Commission's budget. Ms. Morikami stated in regard to
travel she is unsure what the Administration's plans are with the other
departments, and as for the Commission's budget she does not have any
changes to report or recommendations at this time.
Vice Chair Jimenez moved to receive item KFC
Chair Fukushima thanked Ms. Morikami for the information and called for
2015 -01. Commissioner Miranda seconded the
a motion to receive item KFC 2015 -01 for the record.
motion. The motion carried 6:0
KFC 2015 -02 Kauai Fire Department Strategic Planning Assessment
Report.
Chief Westerman stated that the Report is only Phase 1 of the strategic
planning assessment, and that the Kauai Planning & Action Alliance Inc.
was retained to proceed with the Phase 2 Assessment.
Vice Chair Jimenez stated he was concerned that some of the comments
that were made in the report by certain individuals were not given the same
amount of weight compared to the other individuals who responded in a
larger context. He stated with the start of Phase 2 perhaps his concerns
could be taken into consideration.
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Chair Fukushima asked about the status of the Hoike presentation to which
Chief Westerman replied that they are still working on a schedule with J
Robertson for him and the deputy to tape the presentation.
Vice Chair Jimenez shared with the Commissioners that in an effort to
increase public relations the Fire Department has decided to tape a
presentation on Hoike Television. The presentation will provide an
overview of what the Fire Department is all about.
With no further discussion, Chair Fukushima called for a motion to receive
item KFC 2015 -02.
Vice Chair Jimenez moved to receive item KFC
2015 -02. Commissioner Agarwal seconded the
motion. The motion carried 6:0.
Business
KFC 2014 -26 Selection of Chair and Vice Chair for 2015 (On- going).
Chair Fukushima opened the floor for nominations for the position of Chair.
Commissioner Brown moved to close the
Commissioner Miranda nominated Vice Chair Jimenez to the position of
nominations for Chair. Commissioner Maruyama
Chair to which Commissioner Agarwal seconded.
seconded the motion. The motion carried 6:0
Commissioner Miranda moved to elect Vice
Chair Jimenez to the position of Chair for 2015.
Commissioner Agarwal seconded the motion.
The motion carried 6:0
Chair Fukushima opened the floor for nominations for Vice Chair.
Commissioner Agarwal stated she would like to nominate Commissioner
Brown to the position of Vice Chair to which Commissioner Brown
respectfully declined and stated that he would like to nominate
Commissioner Brown moved to nominate
Commissioner Maruyama to the position. Vice Chair Jimenez said he
Commissioner Maruyama to the position of Vice
would second the motion.
Chair for 2015. Vice Chair Jimenez seconded the
motion
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Discussion
Commissioner Maruyama stated he had some reservations on becoming the
Vice Chair because he needs more time to learn the process of the Fire
Department.
Chair Fukushima stated in all retrospect the Chair's position is really not a
tough job, but he understands how hard it could be for someone who is not
familiar with the County's process to make them feel that they need more
time. However that should not deter anyone from wanting to serve as Chair
because the Fire Commission is a civilian body, and although the Chair will
make some mistakes what matters the most is the person's heart and their
intentions. He stated the fact that we are all sitting here shows that we are
all willing to serve the community as volunteers on the Fire Commission.
Commissioner Maruyama thanked the Chair for his words of
encouragement and accepted the nomination as Vice Chair.
With no further discussion, Chair Fukushima called for the vote.
The motion carried 6:0
Vice Chair Jimenez stated as the Commission moves on to the next business
item he would take the time to thank Chair Fukushima for a stellar job
performance throughout the year. His knowledge in parliamentary
procedures in county government has been a valuable asset, and he will be
missed on the Fire Commission.
KFC 2014 -27 Discussion and decision - making on the 2015 Fire
Commission Meeting Schedule (On-going).
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Ms. Morikami stated at the last meeting, she explained to the Commission
how the Office of Boards and Commissions are looking for ways to cut
costs by looking at all 17 Boards, Commissions, and Committees they
manage, and the various meeting dates and schedules including the different
meeting requirements within each of their rules. She stated the Budget
Team is doing a budget presentation tomorrow and 3 members of the Fire
Commission have signed up to attend. She stated the presentation will give
the attendees a better understanding and idea of the fiscal issues that are
facing this County. In light of that, the Office of Boards and Commissions
is looking at ways to stream line productivity and cut expenses, and one
area that we are looking at is changing the meeting requirements to at least
six times a year, which would still mean that the Commission could still
meet every month, but if there is nothing on the agenda except the Fire
Chief's report, then the Commission does not have to meet.
Ms. Morikami stated in order for the Commission to reduce its meeting
requirements the Commission will need to amend its rules, which will
require a public meeting. She explained that the notice for a public hearing
must be published in the newspaper 30 days prior to the public hearing date,
which in this case, the Office of Boards and Commissions is looking at
March 9 as the date to hold the public hearing, which would mean that the
notice must be published in the newspaper on February 9.
Vice Chair Jimenez stated at the last meeting, he made a statement that he
was all for the idea of being fiscally responsible, but questions with all of its
responsibilities the Commission has in terms of reviewing the budget,
hiring, evaluating and termination of the Chief (if necessary) he does not
want the Commission to get too far removed from its responsibilities and
the operations of the Fire Department. Which brings up the question of
how much money would it really save to reduce the meetings requirements;
is it a substantial amount or for a lack of words a rinky dinky amount?
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Chair Fukushima stated it is a collective effort by the Office of Boards and
Commissions not just for the Fire Commission, but for the other
Commissions as well. Chair Fukushima asked hypothetically, if all of the
Commissions decided to comply with the request how will it financially
impact the Office of Boards and Commissions budget.
Ms. Morikami stated she is here to present the proposal and it's up to the
Fire Commission to decide whether or not it wants to meet once a month or
six times a year. Chair Fukushima stated although he understands that
proposal is coming from the Administration he feels that the Office of the
Boards and Commissions needs to do a good job in justifying the proposal
not just to the Fire Commission, but to all of the other Boards and
Commissions in terms of how much money the proposal will actually save.
He stated the answer will definitely help to find a balance of what is being
proposed, and help the Commissioners decide whether or not to continue its
meeting schedule as usual. He stated by meeting once a month it will give
the Commissioners a feeling of continuity with their respective
departments.
Commissioner Miranda noted for the record that he will not be able to
attend the meeting on December 7.
Commissioner Agarwal stated she echoes the sentiments of the Vice Chair
of not wanting the Commission to be removed from its responsibilities. She
stated more research needs to be done in terms of the budget to find where
the money is being spent, and if necessary perhaps cut in those areas. Chair
Fukushima stated from what he understands 80% of the County's funds
goes to pay for salaries and benefits, and the other 20% goes to purchase
materials the County needs to operate.
Ms. Morikami noted that the proposal is something for the Commission to
consider and no action needs to be taken today.
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Vice Chair Jimenez thanked Ms. Morikami for her comments and suggested
that the Office of Boards and Commissions move forward and schedule the
public hearing because the Commission really does not need to take action
until after the public hearing on March 9 is over.
Ms. Morikami stated the Commission should keep in mind that according to
its rules any time a meeting is cancelled due to a lack of a quorum the
Commission must meet on any day within the following week. She stated
on two occasions this year the Commission did not have a quorum, and did
not reschedule the meeting, which was in violation of the rules. Ms.
Morikami stated in an effort to avoid that situation from occurring again,
she is asking the Commission to consider the proposal, which she believes
would offer the Commission more flexibility in their rules.
Commissioner Brown asked with a reduction of personnel staff how would
scaling down the meeting schedule from 12 to 6 times a year affect the
Office of Boards and Commissions workload. Ms. Morikami stated it will
give her staff some breathing room to transcribe the meeting minutes from
previous meetings, prepare the agenda and gather all of the materials needed
for an upcoming meeting. She added that although she does not have a
problem attending all 17 Boards and Commissions meetings she would like
the Commission to at least consider the proposal to scale back on its
meeting requirements.
Chair Fukushima stated based on the discussion he would like to
recommend two things, however, if the Commissioners feel that they need
more time then he would call for a motion to defer the matter for continued
discussion at the next meeting; if not, then he would entertain a motion to
keep its regular meetings to once a month or reduce it to no less than 6
times per calendar year.
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Commissioner Miranda stated that he would like to continue the discussion
at the next meeting because from what he understands the Commission
could either keep its regular meeting schedule or leave it up to the Chair to
decide. He stated because he already knows that some of the meetings will
lack a quorum perhaps the Commission would consider meeting 8 times per
calendar year as opposed to meeting 6 times per calendar year. He stated
either way it would still give the Commission time to review the budget and
still have the flexibility to meet every month if necessary. Commissioner
Miranda indicated that he would like to entertain a motion to put the matter
back on the agenda for continued discussion at the next meeting.
Commissioner Brown stated because it will take 60 days to have the public
hearing (which means the public hearing will not happen until April) he
agrees with Commissioner Miranda's suggestion that the Commission
should meet 8 times per calendar year instead of meeting 6 times per
calendar year.
Commissioner Maruyama stated just so he understands correctly, the
proposal is for the Commission to meet at a minimum of 8 times per
calendar year with the flexibility to meet more if necessary to which
Commissioner Brown replied yes.
Deputy County Attorney Hall stated for clarification whatever language the
Commission decides upon can be included in the Notice of Public Hearing
without it be completely finalized. In other words, the Commission does
not need to nail down the exact amount of when it wants to meet nor choose
a specific number of months. Chair Fukushima thanked the Deputy for the
clarification and called for a motion. Commissioner Miranda moved that the
Commission meet 8 times per calendar year. Vice
Chair Jimenez seconded the motion.
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Discussion
Chair Fukushima stated as it stands right now the language will reflect that
the Commission will be meeting a minimum of 8 times per calendar year
with the understanding that the Commission could still meet every month, if
needed. With no further discussion, Chair Fukushima called for the vote.
The motion carried 6:0
Chief Westerman joined in the discussion and asked if the Commission will
have discretion on the paragraph where it states the Commission may
consent to postponement of any meeting to any other day within the
following week. He stated relative to the motion that was made and just
voted upon, he would like to suggest that the Commission remove the
paragraph otherwise, the Commission will still end up with extra meeting
dates. Deputy County Attorney Hall thanked Chief Westerman for making
a good point noting that he would work with the Commission in redrafting
the rule to make sure that it meets the Commission's needs. Vice Chair
Jimenez stated if by chance the Commission has a change of heart the rule
can always be changed to which Deputy County Attorney Hall replied yes.
KFC 2015 -03 Goal Setting for the Fire Chief for FY 2015/2016.
Chair Westerman stated although he has drafted his own set of goals his
concern is with the new Phase II Strategic Plan coming up as it will have its
own set of goals, and at this point, wonders whether the Commission would
like to review his goals and accept it, or replace them with the new strategic
plan goals.
Vice Chair Jimenez stated he wants to make sure that the goals are both
measurable and attainable, and wants each division to have its own set of
goals that are also measurable and can be completed within a timeline. He
suggested that the Commission review and discuss the Chief's goals, and
once the Phase II of the Kauai Fire Department's Strategic Planning
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Submitted by:
Mercedes Omo, Support Clerk
(X) Approved as is on February 2, 2015
( ) Approved with amendments. See minutes of
Reviewed and Approved by:
meeting.
Eugene Jimenez, Chair -elect
Assessment is completed perhaps the Commission can at that time refine
and or modify the Chief's goals.
Commissioner Brown stated the comments that were made in the Kauai
Fire Department Strategic Planning Assessment Report is nothing new and
at some point, he would like to address the problems that have come across
the department before, and see what type of the solutions the Chief and the
Commission may have.
Chair Fukushima called for a motion to defer item KFC 2015 -03, for
Commissioner Brown moved to defer item KPC
continued discussion at the next meeting.
2015 -03, pending the receipt of the Chief's goals
for FY 2015 -2016. Commissioner Miranda
seconded the motion. The motion carried 6:0
Announcements
The next Fire Commission meeting is scheduled for Monday, February 2,
2015 — 2:00 p.m., Mo`ikeha Building, Meeting Room 2A/B.
Adjournment
Chair Fukushima declared the meeting
adjourned at 3:14 p.m.
Submitted by:
Mercedes Omo, Support Clerk
(X) Approved as is on February 2, 2015
( ) Approved with amendments. See minutes of
Reviewed and Approved by:
meeting.
Eugene Jimenez, Chair -elect