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HomeMy WebLinkAboutOctober12015KHPRCMeetingAgendaPacketMEETING OF THE KAUAI COUNTY HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMISSION THURSDAY, OCTOBER 1, 2015 3:00 p.m. (or soon thereafter) LThu'e Civic Center, Moikeha Building Meeting Room 2A/2B 4444 Rice Street, 111hu'e. Kauai AGENDA CALL TO ORDER APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 6, 2015 MEETING MINUTES A. ANNOUNCEMENTS AND GENERAL BUSINESS MATTERS B. COMMUNICATIONS 1. Letter (9/8/15) from Ronald A. Sato, AICP, Senior Associate Regarding Environmental Review for Federally- Subsidized f'-' �-'° -- , i S. e6,_ '15 SEP 24 0 HHF Planners Public Housing Projects (County of Kauai); Section 106 Consultation — No Effect Determination — Hale Hoolulu (Eld), TMK: 5 -2- 08:56; Hale Hoonanea (Eld), TMIC: 2- 1- 03:17; Hale Nani Kai O'Kea (Eld), TMK: 4- 6- 14:105; Home Nani (Eld), TNM*01-6- 07:31; Kawailehua (Federal), TMK: Z- 6- 04:58; Kekaha Haaheo, TMK: 1 -3 -0820 5&8W116 C. UNFINISHED BUSINESS �}2 •i 1 1. Letter (7/17/15) from Kimi Yuen, Senior Associate, PBR Hawai'l* &Associates, Inc. informing the KHRPC of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) for the Ha-'ena State Park Master Plan that has been prepared pursuant to Chapter 343 of the Hawaii Revised Statutes and Administrative Rules, Title 11, chapter 2001h a. Memorandum (9/24115) from Kaaina Hull, Deputy Director of Planning regarding comments that the Denartment received concerning the Haena State Park Master Plan Draft EIS. October 1,, 2015 K.H.P.R.C. Meeting Agenda Page 2 2. Report from investigative committee members (Permitted Interaction Group) to discuss and explore strategies on informing the public and land owners on the State and National Register of Historic Places Nomination Process and Incentives for placing historic structures on to the National or State Register of Historic Places. 3. Report from investigative committee (Permitted Interaction Group) to discuss and explore creating a Smart Phone Application to identify and highlight Historic properties on Kauai. 4. Discussion on the status of the certified focal G D. NEW BUSINESS 1. Class IV Zoning Permit Z,,IV- 201541, Use Permit U- 2015 -40 and Variance Permit V- 201.5 -6 to allow installation and height variance fora 53 feet high stealth telecommunications structure and associated equipment on a parcel located in Lihue, situated at the Tip Top Motel /Cafe and Bakery site; further identified as 3173 A-kahi Street, Tax Map Key 3-6-006:073, Lihue, Kauai. a. email (9 /1 /15) from Kathy O'Conner-Phelps', Eukon Group Transmitt Three Alternate Designs {Smokestack; Smokestack with Cover {Silo }, and Water Tank }. 2. Garden Island Service Station ( Petroleum Ltd.) TMK: 3- b- 06:89, Lihue, Kauai Zoning Permit Z- -98 -16 for the Proposed Demolition of the Existing Shell Service Station. 3 . Letter (8/25/15) from J. Michael Will, P.E., Program Engineering Manager, US Department of Transportation, Federal Highway Administration requesting to be placed on the Kauai Historic Preservation Review Commission agenda to discuss and review the Wainiha Bridges No. 1, 2, 3; Bridge 7 E; Kap Stream Bridge; and Hanapepe River Bridge. a. Letter (8/26115} from J. Michael Will P. E., Program Engineering Manaf4er. US Department of Transportation, Federal Highway Administration - National r V Y• T l N 1 I'1 ! 1 7 T •• T 4 Historic Freservation act., section wo ana mawan xevisea statutes, unapter 6E Consultation - Bridge No. 7E replacement project, Koloa District, Kauai Island, Koloa Ahupuaa; Project No. HI STP SR50(2), Tax Map Key: (4)2 -7- 002:001 (por), (4)2-,7-u001:004 (por), and (4)2,,7-001 Kaumualii Right -of -Way. October 1, 2015 K.H.P.R.C. Meeting Agenda Page 3 b. Letter ($ /26 /15) from J. Michael Will, P.E., Program Engineering Manager, US Department of Transportation, Federal Highway Administration regarding National Historic Preservation Act, Section Chapter 6E Consultation - Mailihuna Replacement Project, Kawaihau District, 106 and Hawaii Revised Statutes, Intersection and Kapaa Bridge Kauai Island, Kapaa and Kealia Ahupuaa; Project No. HI STP SR56(1): Tax Map Key: (4)4- 6- 014:024, (4)40N 6-14:,092 Kuhio Highway Right -Of -Way, (4)4- 6- 14:090 Kuhio Highway Right-of-Way, (4)4- 6- 014:031, (4)4- 6- 014:033, (4)4-6-014#.999 Mailihuna Road Right -of -Way, (4)4 -7- 008:042, (4)4- 7- 003:999 Kuhio Highway Right- of -Way, (4)4,*7#-00.':001. c. Letter (8/26/15) from J. Michael Will, P.E. Program Engineering Manager,., US Department of Transportation, Federal Highway Administration regarding National Historic Preservation Act, Section 146 and Hawaii Revised Statutes, Chapter 6E consultation regarding National Historic Preservation Act, Section 146 And Hawaii Revised Statutes., Chapter 6E Consultation - Hanapepe Bridge Replacement Project Waimea District, Kauai Island, I- Ianapepe Ahupuaa Project No. HI STP SR50(1) Tax Map Key: (4)1 -9- 007:001 Hanapepe River, (4)1- 9- 007:013, (4)1-9,-007 Kaumuafii Highway Right-of-,Way, (4)1-9-0109W,015) (4)1 -9 -010 Kaumualii Highway Right -of -way. E. COMMISSION EDUCATION (None) F. SELECTION OF NEXT MEETING DATE AND AGENDA TOPICS (11/5/2015) G. ADJOURNMENT EXECUTIVE SESSION: The Commission may go into an executive session on an agenda item for one of the permitted purposes listed in Section 9 Hawaii Revised Statutes ("H.R.S."), without noticing the executive session on the agenda where the executive session was not anticipated in advance. HRS Section 92,-7(a). The executive session may only be held, however, upon an affirmative vote of two- thirds of the members present, which must also be the majority of the members to which the board is entitled. HRS Section 92004. The reason for holding the executive session shall be publicly announced. Note: Special accommodations and sign language interpreters are available upon request five (5) days prior to the meeting d to the County Plannm"g Department, 4444 Rice Street, Suite 473, Lihue, Hawaii 96766. Telephone: 241 -4050. KAUAI COUNTY HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMISSION Lihu'e Civic Center, Mo'ikeha Building, Meeting Room 2A/2B MINUTES A re&rUlar meeting of the Kaua'i County Historic Preservation Commission (KHPRC) was held on August 6, 2015 in the L71hu'e Civic Center, Mo'ikeha Building,, Meeting Room 2A/2B. The following Commissioners were present: Chairperson Pat griffin, Anne Schneider, Stephen Lang, David Helder (left at 4:58p.m.), Charlotte Hoomanawanul', Victoria Richman, Larry Chaffin Jr,, and I {uuleialoha Santos (3.--27p.rn.-5J5p.m.,,). The following Commissioner was absent: Althea Arinaga The following staff members were present: Planning Department — Kaaina Hull, Shanlee Jimenez; Deputy County Attorneys Jodi Higuchi- Sayegusa (3.-02Pm,-4.l33P.m.,,) and Andrea Suzuki (owered at 4:33 p.m;); Office of Boards wad Con='ssions: Adminisb:ator Jay Furfaro (7eft at 44,000 p.m.), support Clerk .Marcie Agaran. Prior to the start of the meeting, Council Administrafive Assistant Eddie of office to new Commission Member Larry Chaffin Jr. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 3:41 p.m. SWEARING IN OF NEW COMMISSION MEMBER Ms. Griffin: us a little bit hear that. Topenio gave the Oath W e appreciate Larry joining us . Last month when honey Girl was swam in, she told about herself and we introduced ourselves. If you all haven't done that, we'd lave to Mr. Chaffin Jr.--.-- Architects; xetixe California where you. Thank you. I'm Larry Chaffin. I am a fellow of the American Institute of d novv. I've lived on Kaua'i for twenty -two (22) years. I came from Los Angeles, our firm worked i the seven (7) western states. And I enjoy life here. Thank Ms. Griffin; Thank you. Victoria, do you want to introduce yourself as we go around? Ms. Wickman: My name is Victoria Wickman. I work for State Parks. Ms. Griffin: Thank you. Mr. Long: I'm. Stephen Long, Architect. August 6, 2415 10 -[PRC Meeting Minutes Page 2 Ms. Schneider: Anne Schneider. I worked as a Planner here. Ms. Griffin: Pat Griffin. Deputy County Attorney HI'guchi'-Sayegusa entered the meeting at 3:0.2.., p.m.. DeDutv County Attorney Hig-uclii-Save Ms. griffin: Our attorney. Mr. Heider: David Helder, inaudible). Ms. Hoorn sa: And Jodt' Hi*guchi-Savevusab anavvanui: Thank you for coming and being here for this-, Ms. Griffin; Homey Girl Hoomanawanui, Ms. Hoomanawanui: Honey Girl. APPROVAL OF THEAGENDA Ms. Griffin: With the approval of the agenda, if there are no objections, I'd like to switch items D and C , so that we take up New Business first and Then 'Unfinished Busm'ess. With that do I have a motion to approve the agenda? 6 Ms. Schneider; I make a motion. Mr. ChChaffin Jr, .6 I have a question on the agenda. Ms. Griffin: Okay. Mr. Chaffin Jr.: On Page 15, 6`'' paragraph, 7<<1 word, what is the ward? Ms, Griffin: Let's see. Lei's wait until the minutes on that because that's part of the minutes. So you moved to approve the agenda, Ms. WI*chman: Second. N/Ts. Griffin: Thank you. It's been moved and seconded to approve the agenda. All in favor.? (Unanimous voice vote) Opposed? X10, motion carries 7:0. Thank you. APPROVAL OF THE JULY 2,2015 MEETING MINUTES August 6, 2015 KHPR C Me et i n L:r Minutes Page 3 Ms. Griffin: Now the meeting minuses. Page 15? Mr. Chaffin Jr.: Yes, The 6h paragraph, the 7�' word. Ms, Griffin,* Read it for us. Ms. Wichman: Oh, chat's my statement. Mr. Chaffin Jr.: "But he was very..." Ms. Wicbman: No, I actually want to correct that because that's not exactly what I said. "Ii was very productive..." It was on Page 1$ (sic), right? "But it was very productive to know the people from across the State ", word that's how it should �rd on that page. Mr. Chaffin Jr.: Thank you. Ms. Wickman: And I also have a correction on Wage 18 near the bottom. Where I'm speaking, near the bottom, it's the- 8th paragraph. It says "we had Susan" and then it says "inaudible ", its Susan Lebo, L-E-B-0. Ms. Griffin: Thank you. Were these other changes? Hearing none. May I have a motion to approve with changes? Mr. Helder: So moved. Mr. Chaffin.Jr., Second. Nis. Griffin-4 Thank you. All in favor? �Unanimous voice vote) Opposed? Hearing none. Motion carries 7:a. ANNOUNCEMENTS AND GENERAL BUSYNESS MA'T'TERS (None) Ms. Griffin: Announcements and General Business Matters. COMMUNICATIONS Ms. Griffin: Conu-nunications. We got the one (l.) that was at your place, and thank you for that as always, Staff. We appreciate that. Other communications? August 6, 20]S KHPRC Meeting Minutes Page 4 NEW BUSINESS Re: Letter (6/26/15) from Ronald Sato, Senior Associate, HHF Planners regarding environmental Reviews for Federafly- Subsidized Public Hearing Projects Statewide, Section 106 Consultation — Preliminary No Adverse ]Effect Determination — `Ele`ele domes, TMK: 2-1-01:13 & 42; Hui o Hanama`ulu, TMK: 3-,8,42:30; Kala-heo, TMK: 2- 3- 12:30; Kapa'a, TMK: 4,,1545:070 Ms. Gliffin: Then let's 9 o an to Part. D,, New Business, D.1. is a letter from Ronald Sato, from HHF Planners, regarding the Environmental Reviews for Federally- Subsidized Public Housi.ng Projects Statewide. This is part of the Section 106 consultation. Their preliminary finding, you will have read, was that there is no adverse effect; not because these aren't quite fifty (50) years old because they will be in another free (5) months essentially. But on Page 3 of the letter, they state that Fung Associates has shown that there have been enough changes so that they don't have historical integrity at this paint. Are there any comments that you want to bring up for us to give a response to HHF? Has anybody been able to see any of these project sites? Ms. Schneider: Na. Ms. Griffin: I'm wondering if we can ask HHF for rung's response on where Fund Associates felt the loss of integrity had occurred and what has happened. I think that would help all of us to 46 see what these character defining aspects of properties in general are of this era. Ms. Schneider: Can we request a letter?, Ms. Griffin,* Sure. Ms. Schneider.*. Asking them to define what they think has doss ii-itegrity. IV s. griffin: n. Would you like to make a motion, A�e? Ms. Schneider: I'd like to make a motion that we send a letter asking them to define what they mean by losing IF and how many changes have been made, IVs. Wichman.-P.-_ I second. GMs. Griffin: Thank you, It's been moved and seconded that we send 1111F a letter requesting more 1P information on how they've defined the loss of integrity and what changes have been made. Is there further discussion? Thank you. Hearing' none. All in favor? (unanimous voice vote 6 Opposed? (None) Motion carries 7:0. Thank you eery mush, and thanks to Staff. Mr. Chaffin Jr.: Shouldn't it be attention to a certain person rather than just the firm? August 6, 2015 KHPRC Meeting Minutes Page 5 Ms. Griffiin: I'rn sure that it would go back to Ronald Sago, the Senior Associate,, who sent us the letter, too. Thank you. Re: Letter (7I17115) from Kimi Yuen, Senior Associate, PBR Hawal"i &Associates, Inc. informing the KHPRC of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement (.EIS ) for the Ha-'ena State park Master Plan that has been prepared pursuant to Chapter 343 of the Hawaii Revised Statutes and Administrative Rules, Title 1 200. Ms. Griffin:. Itern D.2. Associates informing KHP Master Plan. 7 know Ms. Yuen is here. Ms. Wickman: State Parks-, The letter from Kl'ml' Yuen, Senior Associate, of PBR Hawaii and 'RC of the draft Environmental Impact Statement for Hd'ena State Park I need to say that I have to recuse from any statements on this because I work :for Ms. Griffin: Thank you, Please coxxae up, and if you could introduce yourself for our hardworking transcriber. Kimi Yuen: Aloha, Conunission Chair Griffm and fellow Commissioners. Thank youfor having us today. My name is Kimi Yuen from PBR Hawaii and Associates. With me Today is Alan Carpenter, State Parks Archaeologist. Actually I was going to ask, before we get started, we have a slideshow presentation to give you an overview of the project. T also have large prints of the maps that if maybe Kaaina can help us put up, I can use it in my presentation. Thank you again, for having us. I'll jump in while they get that up, I don't think the be�41ming slides are anything ground - breaking or earth-shattering. Just an overview of our presentation, we will go over the meeting purpose, what we are presenting today, project background, the planning process and EIS process that we're doing through right now, and then answer any questions that you may have for us. So just briefly, again, we're here to provide an overview of the dram: Hd'ena State Park Master Plan. We imtially came before this body in 2008 when we kicked this project off. I would just like to say that it's been a long process, but I think it's been very meaningful and we've had very good conversations. x'11 have a list up -later about an advisory committee of community members, kupuna, local families that have been involved, including business and other community leaders. It's an extensive list of folks that have been involved,, and participation has been great. I feel like the plan has come to a state where everybody is comfortable with it, and so we've moved forward with the EIS process. We are also going to follow -up on the pre-consultation col-n.ments this body had for us back in 2008, and thin again, to answer any questions you may have on the process and the EIS moving forward. I August 6, 2015 KHPR C Meeting Minutes Page 6 Just some brief information. I'm sure all of'you are familiar with Hd'ena State Park, It's the State Park that is located at Ke'e, on the north shore. It is at the end of the State Highway and comprises of X5.7 acres. The majority of the site is State land, but the County does ovm a small outparcel. of 0.68 acres where Ida Ulu A Paoa Heiau and Ke Ahu A. Laka are located. The State primarily used Federal Land and Water Conservation Funds to acquire the property in 1977. What that means is that as the State moves forward and some of the management issues that have come up, they will still be required to abide by certain regulations and guidelines. It impacts things like entrance fees and that sort of thing, so there's a certain set of rules to the Federal Land and mater Conservation Funds that State Parks will have to abide by moving forward. light now, the main reason we're here is that there's currently no adopted State Master Plan for the park or an accepted- EIS, and State Parks basically needs that to move forward with any kind of major capital improvements at the park, which I think all o1`us know the pack could definitely use some care and atiention. Just briefly highlighting some of the significant sites at the park. Of course, there's the hei'au again and the hula platform. Lohi'au's house platform is also located at the State park, and an extensive agricultural complex containing lo'l' and `auwai, as well as a couple of loko that may have been, or thought to have been, agriculturally used, too. You have the two (2) wet caves; Wai a Kanaloa and Waikapala`e. Ke'E Beach and Lagoon, which i's a very popular visitor destination with roughly three hundred (30Q) people on the beach at any one time. Na Pali o Makana, which is a prominent peak that you can see from portions of the park, and then, of course, the trailhead to Kalalau Trail and the Ndpali Coast State. Wilderness Park.. Much of the park is included in the Hd'ena Archaeological Complex, whzch is a registered historic place an both the State and National Registers. It was placed there in 1984. The Ndvali Coast Archaeological District isprimarily the area mauka 1984. Regist of the highway, and that, too, was placed on both the State and National Registers in The highway itself; the north shore section of the Kauai Belt Road v��as put on the National er in 20046 Here's a picture of the existing site. You can see the extensive lo `i 1 complex on the eastern portion of the State Park. The existing unpaved parking lot is here. The State highway runs along this edge at the base of the pall, and terminates at Ke'e Beach. The hei"au is located here and this is where the County property is located; the 0.68 acres. So you can see that it's actually landlocked within the State property. The two (2) loko are roughly in these areas. The site is heavily overgrown, but it used to be cleared, open, if you can imagine, expanse of coastal dunes along the shoreline. The two (2) loko were not covered over like they are currently, and of course the agricultural complex was actively farmed until the 1960's. Alan, feel zee to jump in if there's an.��thmg. So the `auwai are these little dotted lines that you see running throughout the lo'i-. Back in 2008 when we were here, actually it was just me that was here before you seeking any input or thoughts that this body had as we kicked off the project. There were basically six (6) main issues that were brought up, and one was the National. and State Registers, which 7 j ust went over earlier that much of the site i's actually already on both registers. A comment came up about the relationship of proposed trails to the cultural resources and the cultural practices that occur at thepark-, Fishing August 6, 2015 Ki IPRC Meeting Minutes Page 7 zones, an interpretive p maintenance and management of the overlapping State and County jurisdictions, and then mapping of buffers of specific resource preserves within the overall complex. I'lI let Alan talk about this slide, but basically we asked Alan because State Parks has archaeologists on staff, they did the archaeological overview, survey, and mapping for us. This is one of the graphics in both the Master Plan and the EIS. Alan Carpenter: Alright, thank you Kiml, Thar1c, you, Commissioners , for having me here today. Sothis essentially is an outline of the park property. As K*rni mentioned, as most of you probably know, Hd'ena 1s an extremely important historical place; a very storied place associated With import persons and legends, and that manifests itself on the g i� terms of physical remnants. When I was asked to put this map together to- sort of outline where the significant resources are, you can see that each of the colors represent a different site type. Effectively, the entire park is covered by sensitive archaeological sites. Most notably in the dank green, in the white outlines are the actual mapped lo'i bank walls; that's a very large and extensive irrigated agricultural system of lo'l. As Kimi mentioned, it was farmed up until the 1960's and has more recently since the 1990's been revitalized by the Hui Maka'affia o Makana,, a curated group we have out there, and theyhaNle I again, begun plantincyand restoring a section of the lo'isystem. And that's a prominent pars of the park landscape today. The two (2) loko; Loko Naia, Loko KZ'e. Loko Ke-"6 stir functions somewhat as a pond. It has standing water at most t though it is infilled. Loko Naia is dry, It no longer has a pond element to it., but it was there historically; most likely a combination of a lo 1 and a fishpond. The yellow areas are the beach dune system. That area is noted of course as an area where people were buried. There have been a number of burials that have came up to natural reasons and one, due to park development in the last few decades. a There are historic cemeteries as well. They are hard to see, but tight here is one (1) with historic grave stones and right here is another one (1) that may or may not be.. It appears to have grave markers, but we're not 100% sure. But the entire dune is considered sensitive as a potential area of burials. So we consider that as one (J.) of the more sensitive places. It has conflicting uses because that's also the shoreline where most people want to go and visit. The yellow areas on the mauka side of the road are legendary sites. The wet caves, Wal' a Kanaloa and Waikapala'e, are these two (2) areas here. This is Lohi'au's house site, which is a very large platform with unique architecture. A pretty stunning feature, but again, kind of hidden away in the bushes. Ms. Santos entered the meeting at 3;20 p,m. The area in blue, chat's mostly the highway, but also at the end of the road, this is the historic Allerton house complex and gardens. Ii's actually quite modified. It had two (2) homes; previously owned by Francis Ti Brown, Y believe, who may have built the homes. One (1) of them burnt down around 1990. We still have the Caretaker's Cottage, which is a 1920's structure. We hope to restore that as part of the park landscape and also adaptively reuse it for park purposes. August 6,, 2015 KI-IPRC Meeting Minutes Page 8 And the last area to discuss is. ..I'm sorry, thisis area where people lived in the early 1900's. other blue one. This is another historic homestead The area in red is effectively all the area that has modern disturbance, so that is essentially the only disturbed areas, and that really shows how constrained we are with being able to do any kind of park developments without disturbing historic features. So the main area where the current parking lot is, this is gains to be the focus of all future development. This area here represents disturbance from the Taylor Camp days in the 1960's, but there are still remnants of the locir despise that, disturbance. This is simply a road that accessed another historic house which is still there; the .Montgomery House, again, built in the 193 0's, and another one that we intend to hopefully restore and presen7e. This is the area most recently developed by State Parks in the 1970"'S. That did impact some subsurface cultural f mostly habitational. features, but also one (1) burial. In a nutshell, this is a very challenging glace to propose development and manage hordes of people. Ms. Yuen,-- : Just to add to Alan's wonderful overview, this central area is right in the middle of where the T4ui �s actually ... this is the area that they've restored and are currently farming. but this area, Alan if you can correct me, they would not restore this as lo"i because there were a lot of abandoned cars, and iti*ust would not do well as restored lo' iv, So that's why this small area of the 1o'i is called out as "red" because they wouldn't ever restore it. Mr. Carpenter; Yes exactly. Due to the nature of izrigaied agriculture and pond fields, especially for kalo, if you fill those with water to cultivate, down below the surface there is a lot of glass and metal and other things it that are extremely difficult to remove, so that will probably remain as some kind of use area or perhaps dryland, but it's not going to be restored as far as a lo'i system. Ms. Yuen:. So this is a list of our Community Advisory Committee members. Mr. Carpenter: Which you've seen four (4) to five (5) times already._ (Laughter in background) Ms. Yuen: Like I had mentioned earlier, �t includes a wide variety of kupuna and Ha ` ena `Ohara members. We have cultural practitioners, such as Kumu Hula Kehaulani Kekua, on our advisory committee, as well as many of the local businesses and community leaders an the north shore involved in the process. We can leave a copy of this for you folks. This is also in our Masser Plan Report as Appendix A. Y think some of their titles .night actually be outdated since it's been such a long process; we probably have to add like two {2} or three {3) for some of them. So this is the view of the current draft Master Plan. again, we brought larger prints that are up on the board. So I'll just kind of go over a lot of the highlights of the plan. Maybe rt'll help if I can walk up to the printed one and point as I.. . A to give you some orientation, of course, the shoreline is on the top side of the image. The 1P pals is on the bottom of the image. The highway running at the base of the Pali-,, the heiau, So the thought is that traffic and access will come from the highway primarily. At the main enirance...beeause this is teclinj e lly the end of the highway, we included a turnaround so that cars that aren't actually going to the park, but actually want to drive to the end of the road can do August 6, 2015 X_iPRC Meeting Minutes Page 9 that without backing up traffic as it currently happens. We divert the traffic into a parking lot, and I'll explain in a little bit why its bent in this fashion, but the main reason is that as we had go along in the plan and id's probably a big reason vvh� our finalization of the draft Master Plan got delayed a bit, was that Stake Parks and DLNR had undergone a Rockfall Hazard Study for this stretch and found that actually the highway lies in a pretty significant rockfall hazard zone. So what that ended up doing was we had to reconfigure this entry portion of the Master Plan because we were suiting some of the main visitor facilities right within that zone. Y have a map coming up and it's actually on this, but we'll show the different rockfall hazards. But on this plan, it's the little dotted line. What we did was locate all of the visitor facilities outside of that, and this is a modeled rockfall hazard, kind of, predictor of where the rocks are likely to fall. So this was the point of 0% change of rockfalls, so we tried to locate everything outside of that and outside of that rockfall zone. The advisory committee actually came up vvil:h that concept. What that does is, the highway no longer becomes the main access for -people to get to Ke`e Beach, We are recommending an elevated boardwalk that actually goes over the lo'i and cuts up towards This hau thicket, and then out to Ke'e Beach that way to gel them out of the rockfall hazard zone. The highway, we've tallied to State DOT and they are perfectly happy turning it over to State Parks to maintain, but the process for that has not quite been done. The reason for that is that we want to basically limit the amount of traffic that is falling i-n this area, So what this becomes then is a special access or very limited access roadway. We have a small thirteen (13) stall parking lot at the end of it that we'll maintain, including two (2) ADA stall.s. So that would be the primary access for the ADA access to the beach, as well as for cultural practitioners and any 16nd of ha"flau groups that may be going to the hel"au; that becomes their special access to get There. I think we're also talking about fishermen and fisherwomen; they will be able to still use that as a special access. For the most park, the main bulk of your visitor traffic will be diverted to the main parking lot here. We sized it in this plan to be one hundred (100) stalls, which is what was shown in a previous Master Flan that State 'arks had developed with a different consultant:, back in the 94's. That plan and draft EIS was never finalized, so we came in back in 2008 to try to finish out. Basically, the. base of this plan was based off of what was termed a community preferred master plan, but there were issues that people were still uncomfortable with, such as actually that plan had dispersed visitors all along the coast line, thinking that would minimize impacts, as apposed to being concentrated in one (1) place. But that concept you know, this is not exactly the safest place to swim, you don't have any lifeguards, so that idea got taken off the table. They had actually located picnic tables along the coastal dune, which we didn't think was appropriate, so that is all gone. Now we are proposing restoration of the coastal dune., The advisory conlmittee had made a good point that not only would they be taking care of .the environment, but they would also betaking care of the kupuna that are there. The previous plan had bike paths where the `auwai was throughout the complex; we took that out. Really what we're doing is Trying to focus the visitor traffic to the morn entry parking lot. We haveavisitor, kind of, welcome center richt at the entry point, so we are focusing the visitor traffic wrong the elevated and it would have rails along this boardwalk to the hau thicket, and then from there a path directing folks to the beach. what this does is it provides a view, actually, of the lo'l* that currently people don't get to experience, and it also opens up views of makana, which is. * 0 1 don't think. it's up here, but it's the pear is on this side, so there's a little viewing platform here that they could actually see makana now, where they can't see it from the highway, It helps bring out opportunities to interpret the sites that currently may not exist. 0 August C, 2015 KJ-1PRC c cti j) g Minutes P arc 10 We worked really closely with the Hui that is restoring the lo'i. The discussion points were that because this section of the lo'i is at the base of the pall, it actually is some of the least product' ve areas of the lo'i. The concept is to then, you know, maybe this becomes places where visitors can actually experience lo'i firsthand; maybe they get in there themselves and can have hands -on bind of experiences within the park. The Hui would actually stars to work on the later phases. Phase I actually continues here. These phase numbers relate to a restoration plan that Alan had worked on, I'm not sure how long ago, but the idea is to basically, eventually restore all of the lo'i at the park. what that does is allow the Hui to continue Their work on the later phases of the restoration, but then also open up opportunities where visitors to the park can experience it as well. . This entire portion that is dashed out around the heiau, we've designated as a hula complex. That in and of itself would require its own, km"d of, planning, probably an advisory committee to decide what and how that is, but the idea is that this becomes a place for hula practitioners. I n this middle park, we have what we've called a cultural gathering place where we would be proposing an open hale style learning center; HWau Wa'a, for canoes since it's right along one of the bigger `auwai that goes out into the channel, If you can see these little dotted lines throughout the lo V i, those would bell mted to pedestrians only, and then things like guided tours might be able to access and have a connection back to the main visitor center there. # We've left the historic cemeteries as is and kept this historic road; that's what you see here dashed out. We haven't done anything to the comfort station and constructed wetlands that are currently there and completed, but the thought was because this is such a sensitive site, at the entry point we would be providing a second set of comfort stations. Hopefully -kvhat that does is it minimizes the use that actually happens out there because people would be using this as well, so the amount of runoff occurring at Ke'e would be lessened. This little structure here is a caretaker's cottage that was envisioned in the previous Masser. Plan and a 24 -hour presence; somebody actually hired by State Parks to oversee the park twenty -four {24} hours a day was a recommendation from that plan that's carried over to the current plan. You'll see things like this little dashed box. The Montgomery House is another one, but those are archaeological or historic sites recommended for restoration. At the turnaround,, we've identified if as a potential shu1:1:1e stop as well, and I'll go over some of the transportation plans and alternatives that came up through the meetings as well. For the most part, the primary focus becomes restoration and protection of the natural cultural historic resources throughout the Bark. The parking lot, actually Alan, if you could advance the slide, we're showing another plan of the entry area. If you can see, the turnaround is very similar, the Barking layout is the same. There's a much more modest welcome pavilion at the park entry, and Then the boardwalk carried over. But the concept here is to start small because State funding can be quite tight, and so State Parks asked us to come up with a near-teTM plan that could be, maybe you know, take a smaller bite of the bignut of thefull Master Phan and what could be done to implement some of the concepts, such as the visitor limit which I'll go into a little bit as well. Graphically,'we tried to show that one (1) of the main concepts of getting people to the park talked about a remote entry at Princeville. Putting a lot of the parking outside of the Bark. August 6, 2015 KJ -IPRC Meeting Minutes Page 11 Ms. Schneiders., Can I ask. where that's going to take place in Princeville? Ms. Yuen: Where? Y mean there are a few sites we ideniiiied in a Transportation Plan that's in our Master Plan. Ms. Schneider: Because There's no parking m PrinceO'lle now. Ms. Yuen: Right, right, exactly. But there is a site, there is a landowner that has offered up a site so there's a community group that is working on that. It's one of those things that we'll need a lot of funding. It might require County, State, and Federai entities to partner on that, but there is. a site that's identified in Princeville. It's a potenfial site that would hold probably 200 -304 parking stalls, I thinki"s what they estimated at. In any case, what we're showing here at least, if there was parking to be can -site, there's a roughly one hundred (100) stall parking lat. The major management recommendation that came out of the group was to limit the visitors in the first place. You've got over 2,00a people coming at the peak on days-6 just one (t) day alone; 2,a00 pe OPI e coming to this park and it's just too much. Back in '93, the estimate of visitors, I think when you first started that earlier round of master pl=ing efforts, it was only 350 people a day. So you can see, over a very short period of time, the number of visitors that are conning to Ha-'ena State Park is quite significant. The firsti'ssue would be to reduce the number of visitors that come to the park on a daily basis; that would include doing on the Kalalau Trail. But the idea is that you would have a flexibly sized parking lot, depending on what kind of transportation alternatives could het worked out. The County has been working on a north share shuttle that they've been trying to get off the ground as well. Ms. Schneider: "c'hat's already failed. Ms. Yuen: Well, yeah Y mean, the entity is still there, but I don't think the energy and the interest has yet, so I don't want to give up on that either. I thick it's still a potential and r know the County is planning to do a study on a north shore and south share shuttle. We're kind of keeping those options loose at this point, but the idea is That we won't overbuild a parking lot if some of these other solutions can word. If it doesn't, at least State Parks has in their Master Plan, a one hundred (100) shall parking lot identified. The preference was to pave it with a permeable surface, which is why it's colored the way it is. Initially, it could start off with Phase T that lighter tan area, and you could keep the past in green as kind of an open lawn or grand lawn that you could have events or hold educational events or even community events in this space. You have a more modest welcome pavilion, but again, the boardwalk would be an integral part of ft rupleruenting this near --term plan. If you look near the highway, you'll see a red line and a green line. Again, those are the rockfall hazard zones. The red line was where a 5 °lo chance of a rockfall event might happen, and the green line is the 0 % chance. Everybody just decided that rather than try to come up with some engineering solutions along the cliff; the advisory committee's priority was to preserve the cliff 0 August 6, 201.5 KHPRC Meeting Minutes Page 12 and not impact the cliff with any kind of engineered solution, let's just move everybody outside of that zone. Even members of the Hui felt that that was a better way to go. Again, to go over some of the key management recommendations that came out of the plan as weld, these four {4} were seen as critical to being implemented no matter what the park ends up doing. I think when they are looking at Transportation, entry fees, all that kind of stuff, that's s1:i11 up for debate, but these were the four (4) that everyone agreed needs to happen, regardless of what other management decisions are made. The first one is to create a cultural advisory group and a broader community advisory group. It would be something similar to the advisory group that we had. for the Master Plan effort. I think we would open it up to them to participate as well, but that's not to say that they will be the ones on this community advisory group. The cultural advisory group would be much more specific and require people with. actual expertise in the different cultural, you know, there's fishing, there's hula, there's agriculture, that sorb of thug, so very specific cultural advisor for State Park. The second item, again, is the initial daily visitor limit of nine on th hundred (900) people per day; that would include everybody going to the park or day bikers e Kalalau Trail. This does not include the sixty (60} campmL-y permits for the overnight further down an the Kalalau Trail, it would not include the thirty (30) hunter permits. that are allowed, it would not include cultural practitioners, it would mot include any kind of specYal hdlau or lo'iwork groups, school or educational groups, fishe en, or the cemetery caretakers. The discussion was to see wbat the impact would be over time; let's set a number at this outset and see what theimpacts are to the park. I f it continues to be a problem, they could adjust it down, as well as if it seems like there might be an ability to increase it that is still on the table as well. The idea is to at least set an initial. daily visitor limit, which is less than the current number, but again, it is still higher than what was happening in the early 90's. But the idea is to see what the impacts would be tothe park. Mr. Helder: Would local residents have to apply for a permit to go? Ms. 'Yuen: No, you wouldn't apply for a permit, but you would have to, basically, plan your trips. There will be tickets, and whether they charge a fee for it or not, and whether residents gel charged or not, I think that's still open. 1l/1r. CgVenter: Actually, we've already gone Qut to the community, so residents are not going to pay entry or parking fees under a previously vetted. agreement between us when we went out for fees statewide a couple of years ago. We're actually in the process of codifying our existing and proposed fees in our administrative rules; that's going to happen, actually, m the next couple of weeks. So any :Fee will apply to out-of-state visitors, but not to locals. But if we set a-limit, there has to be a way to have a control point or a system for adhering to thatlimit. Mr. Helder: So if you lived in Wainiha, for instance, and you wanted to drive out there. Mx. Carpenter: Yes., that's one of the challenges and there are other things that could comp into play. for example, the pea. times, you may limit the peak times,, but guys who need to go out and fish early in the morning or people who want to go at night when there's really not a capacity issue, everyone is already gone, those may be totally open and available. At leant that's one (1) of the August 6, 2015 K1-2RC Me eti�ig Minutes Page 13 things that I think would be imperative to the local community because you can't plan the nice days or the dais when the ak:uZe are there, that kind of thing right, so it will be a challenge. There was an overwhelming desire by the advisory committee to set a limit,, essentially because visztor experience is being impacted and particularly, Local visitor experience is being 'impacted by the absolute crush of people heading to the end of the road. Mr. Helder.* I understand that but when you live out There that makes up a large portion of where you have to go. You're basically limiting accessibility for people that live there. Ms. Hoomanawanui: That's true. Mr. Helder: That's a problem. Ms. Hoomanawanuio, You're right. Mr. Helder: That constitutes a takm*g, rea�.l�, of what: we have out there. Mr. Carpenter: If you're fishing or you're practising culture, you're not beholding to these limits. So that may be a challenge to prove or I mean, you figure, just considering how it would actually operate. It's probably going to be a bunch of people familiar with the area and locals or a community group, possibly even, running this under some kind of agreement, They are doing to knew the difference between someone from Minnesota and someone from Wainiha. Ms. Schneider: I think that's part of the problem here now. The beaches, everyplace is so crowded that there's no place for the local people to go anymore. Nit. Helder,-,& Yeah, and it's what it sounds like, it's another.. . Ms. Schneider: And we keep catering to the tourist experience, rather than to the local experience. Nir. Helder: Yeah. Administrator Ja presentation and th Furfaro: Excuse me, Madan chair. May I recommend that you finish the en go into a recognized Q &A afterwards? Ms. Griffin: Thank you. Mir. Carpenten. okay, thanks. Mr. Yuen:. The third key management recommendation vas to requi.xe a visitor orientation prior toparkentry, That is simply to educate anyone who cones to the park about the sensitive natural and cultural resources there. Especially if you are a local resident, you would only have to do it once, and after that you would be cleared of having to do if main. So there's ditferent types of ways to Implement that, but the idea is that, you know, because of the conditions That can turn on a dime in this environment, it's *imperative that anyone who goes there knows the potential range August 6s 2015 KI-IPRC Meeting Minutes Page 14 of hazards that are out there and be aware of them. It could also include things like daily weather reports; whether there's potential flash flood warrrings or that kind of thing. Basically the idea is to help educate anyone who goes out there because it's not only the tourist,, but there may be Kauai folks that aren't familiar with the conditions out there, too, that may require some education. And then the fourth one is to require Staff and Volunteer education since they are at the front lines of any kind of visitor interaction; whether they are local or out -of- state. To dust quickly go back over the issues that were raised by this body back. in 2008, we did go over the National and State Registers. Alain, the relationship with the trails to cultural resources and practices, the idea is to Focus visitor traffic on that boardwalk and get them safely to Ke-'e--' outside of that rockfall hazard zone and open up the views of the lo'i and rnakana. And again, it will not preclude cultural practitioners' access to the sites because we will have the highway remain as that limited access corridor. Even the hunters, we were talking about being abbe to park at the parking lot at Ke-'e-, dishing zones, the Master Plan basically defers to the Hd'ena Community -Based Subsistence Fishing Area rules that were just adopted by the Board of Land and Natural Resources in October of 201.4 and recently signed by the Govetnor; I think that was just Tuesday. So rather than having an overlapping set of rules or concepts, the group just decided to defer to those area rules that are now signed into law. Interpretive program. The entire Chapter 5 of our Masser Plan report does over a proposed interpretive program. And with Victoria W'Ichman now on staff as an Interpretive Specialist here on K i. that would probably fall under her purview for implementation. Maintenance and management of the overlapping State and County jurisdictions. Ii had gone back and forthin a lot of different discussion and concepts, but currently, the County actually has a stewardship aareernent with the Hui* to manage that site. I don't know if Alan wants to elaborate on any of that. Mr. carpenter: Actually, they have two (2) agreements. The Hui has an agreement For the lo'i, and they more .recently have an agreement, since we started this process and you ask actually, the County has started their own program with the great support of the Mayor and they have, haw many? Three (3 )? Or just two (2)? Ms. Wichman: What? (Inaudible) agreements? Mr. Carpenter: (Inaudible) agreements under the bounty. IVs. 'Wickman: Right now, officially, one (1). Mr. Carpenter: Just one (1)? Ms. Wichmans., Yes. Mr. Car-renter: Plus this one? Ms. Wickman: Y they are working on this one. K aneiolourna is the first one. Mr. Carpenter: Right. August 6,201S KEPRC Meeting Minutes Page 15 Ms. Yuen This one actually hasn't been signed. Ms. Wickman: I really couldn't answer that. Y don't know. Administrator Ftufaro., V This one hasn't been executed yet. Mr. Carpenter: It has not yet? Okay, so still in the works. Mr. Yuen: But that's what the County... Administrator Furfaro: That's No. 2. Mr. Carpenter: Thai's No. 2, alright. The last one preserves in the overall complex, that is included the mapping and buffers of specific resource in the plan, but'l just want to add ftom my perspective. The issue of buffers around archaeological sites is a development driven rule within the Chapter 6E, Historic Preservation Law. Y prefer to flip that back to the opposite where what we like to do within parks is preserve everything, and instead our buffers should constrain the amount of construction that goes on, so that in fact we puff a buffer around -where construction activities can occur, everything outside of it is actually preserved. But the buffers,, in this case, will be barriers to roadways, trails, vegetation, and things like that. it's not the same concept as you see when someone develops a hotel complex and they put buffers around the burial sites and the heiau because that's all they are required to preserve. We try to preserve everything, so we're kind of doing the opposite. Ms. Yuen: So if you remember the map that Alan had shown where we had those' red areas of disturbed areas, we really tried to keep anything we are proposing to those disturbed areas that could never really be restored. Quick ly, the EIS process, and I think some of you maybe familiar with this, but an Envi.ronmenfial Impact Statement is a significantly more intense document than a standard Environmental Assessment. Really, with this protect, there are so many triggers that we Just decided that an ETS is probably more appropriate for this project because besides the use of State and County lands, you have area within a shoreline, historic sites, it's a conservation district, and there's actually an existing helicopter facility within a conservation district, shoreline area, and registered historic site that we are actually reloeating, just a tad, in the plan. from its existing site. Again, the EIS is not the actual permit. State Parks will stitt have to come back for their actual development permits, should they move forward on any of the construction projects, and this is Just a list of them. I won't go over them in any detail, but again, the EIS is the disclosure document and where potential impacts are vetted and mitigation is proposed as part of what is being proposed in the Master Plan.. So when they actually implement it, a lot of the mitigation concepts that come out that are brought up by community members and the public are rolled into the EIS. With that document, State Parks now has a good basis to really make sure that when they do move forward with implementation, they are taking into consideration all of these mitigation. measures. August 6, 2015 K-IPRC Meeting Muiutes Page 16 This is just a quick overview of the EIS process. The EIS prep notice was completed back in February and March of this year. We are currently in the draft EIS stage with the public review and comment period open right now. It closes on September gth. After that, we Will move forward with revising the EIS and incorporating all of the comments that are received. Then., the final EIS is accepted by the Governor, unless he so decides to delegate that authority. So if you had a chance to look at our document, this is just a kind of quick overview of the organization of the document itself If you decide to delve deeply into it, or if you don't have the time to really delve deeply into it, the first two (2) sections, the project overview and section I. include the Master Plan summary, as well as the summary of all of the impacts that are discussed in the later chapters. chapter 3 is a description and more detailed assessment of the potential impacts and mitigation measures to the natural environment. Chapter 4 is those impacts to the human environment. Section 5 is conformance with the regulatory laws and guidelines and policies. Section 6 describes the alternatives we looked at as we went through this process. (7) is the contextual issues, and much of this is the requirements of doing an EIS document, so it gets more technical as you het further into "It. The 8th is just the list of agencies and individuals we consulted with. (9) is the list of preparers, references. And then the actual comment letters we received during the pre - consultation period and the EIS prep notice period are actually attached in the last two (2) chapters with our responses to those written comments.. So j ust a quick overview, we've distributed the ch%aft EIS to quite a few public agencies, as well as individuals and community groups. Copies were also provided to the media and the public libraries, including Princeville Library, the Li hu' e Regional Library, and Kauai CC .Library. Technic al studies that were done for the EIS are also attached as appendixes, which is why the document gets really long and voluminous, but these are attached as appendices to the draft EIS. And then the rernainmg project timeline. We're hoping to get through the draft EIS with the September S' comment period deadline, revise it, and submit to the Governor and OEQC for review by October. Then, it actually goes to the Board of Land and Natural Resources for their review of the final EIS,, and then again, it has to go back to the Governor for final acceptance, and then OEQC actually publishes it. After that, we will be finalizing the Master Plan itself, which would also require Board of Land and Natural Resources approval. 'W'ith that do you have any questions for us? Administrator Furfaro-, Madam Chair, before you open the questions to the members, may I have a moment as I'm1eaving to go to visit with the Mayor for another rneeti.ng? Ms. Griffin: Of course you may. Administrator-Fur'flaro: Thank you. First of all, I'm delighted to see the presentation, but I wanted to oust give some clarify here. an the Princeville shuttle bus, that issue is not dead. r do want you to knew the Mayor launched a new committee of which George Costa and myself both dot anointed to be on the committee, probably because of our visitor industry experience. So we've launched the original meeting with the resort operations at the Princeville site. And Lee from Planning and August 6, 2015 K1 P R C Ike tt i n g M nuts Page 17 Public Works.is really our transportation guy, so just to answer that question, it is trying to be reestablished; just for general information. I also want to say that our committee is also looking at options with landovvnefs for the acquisition of property, We're been in touch with bosh the Federal and the State offices. That is in reference to your comments about the alternative parking location up on the north shore, That's being coordinated with the fact that we're still crying to get information as to what will happen with the Kilauea Lighthouse and those visitor centers, so there are things going on. 'what we're hoping to hear from the Plwmers also is there is a component of this land that's missing, and obviously they touched on it, on the financial aspect; fees and costs associated with general operation, stewardship, and so forth. So I just wanted to give you that piece of information, so that chairwoman, you knew that (inaudible) going on along that way. And again, to remind you that your task is really to focus on the historical aspects of the plan and that stewardship. I'm sorry I have to leave, but thank you. Ms. Griffin, That's alright, and thank ou. y And it's good to get an overview of the trans portation, but I did want to remind this Committee (sic) that our kuleana is the historic preservation aspect. So transportation, who the Caretaker is going to be, where the engineering is, is outside our punliew,, unless it relates directly to historic preservation, What I'm going to do is ask you all to have questions, if you do, to Ms. Yuen or Mr. Carpenter. Then, I'm going to open it if there's public comment, and then we'll have further discussion, and make a decision on how to proceed. Thank you, again. Mr. Fufaro. Again., I want to apologize for interrupting, but the discussion without a rules of following makes it very difficult for the Staff to record the meeting, so that's an apology from me for reminding. It's better to have speakers recognized when Q &A is proposed. Ms. (3riffin: Thank y ou. Administrator Furfaro. 4 Thank you, Madam Chair. Administrator Furfaro left the meeting at 44.00 P.M. Ms, Griffin: Are there questions of Kimi or Alan regarding the presentation? Mr. Helder: I'm still having trouble with this, the restriction of use and.. . Ms . Gri-I-Tinip :1 preservation, Excuse me, David,, unless you can specifically say why that is affecting the historic Mr. Helder: cultural access, cultural access has been historic for people here to be able to go out there and have whatever, whether they're out there and playing a `ukulele. I don't the park that's causing an. environmental xs not by the people who dive here. It's b: a practitioner that is recognized by doing hula or standing care what it is, when you describe the accelerated use of impact that you're trying to mitigate, that accelerated use increased tourism that's promoted here. when you start August 612015 KT-TPRC Meeting Minutes Page 18 saying, it'I'm. standing out there and I want to go out and play my `ukulele and I'm not allowed to because the limit has been reached of tourists, it means that my access to that park is restricted because you've promoted the use of tourists over the people that have been here and have traditionally been able to go out there, and practice whatever it is that they want to practice, in preference to Tourism. So 7 understand; I live near there. It's a place that I go regularly and under the plan that you've just described, I would not be able to. There would be no spontaneity in what I would want to do as a resident here. And that representing from where I live, that represents probably 25 % of what's available to me near where I live. So wl-iat I am really seeing here is it constitutes a preference by the Slate Parks system, under which you've designed .ere, for accepting Tourism at the expense of the residents of Hawaii and Kaua`i, right here in particular. 7 don't final that acceptable, to tell you the honest truth. 1 don't know what you want from this particular body, an acknowledgement so That you can go forward and check this off, but I don't agree with what I see. Mr. Center: �I�ay. I appreciate that. If I may, it' certais nly not the intent to Limit any local or culturai access of thus. I'll back up and say that this plan represents a tremendous collaboration between the State and the community, particularly as expressed through the community advisory group, and both the limits on the number of people and the Limits on parking were not anything proposed by our side. Those came 100% from the local community. In fact, we had many Ions discussions and debates., and I think we would have been very disingenuous If the community to dive their input and then ignore it. This isn't completely vetted yet, nor is the solution as to how to implement it clear, but we gave the community their say and we accepted their recommendations, and That became embedded in this plan. The bid public meeting where it goes out to everybody else is corning up, and that's going to be a time when I'm sure we are going to heax plenty, but I think the public is also doing to hear from those in the community and their reasons behind the decisions they made to put that in. Ms. Griffin: Hang M. on because if there are other questions, specifically on the presentation, we can take them, but Then I wand to open it to anybody in the public who wants to speak, and then we can come hack and discuss. So are there other questions? Ms. Schneider: Could I ask where it is in gelation to the plans for. Koke'e? Is bus going to come first? Or is Koke'e going to come fast ?' Because you have a master plan for Koke'e. Mr. Carpenter: I don's know which is going to come first. Depends on where the funding comes from and the priorities of the Division. I can't say for sure which one is going to come first. They are bath, kind of, proceeding concurrently. We don't have a whole fat of extra money for either. Ms. Schneider: I w m ould just like to say, as a business person Hanalei for 25 years that I really object to this plan. Ms. Griffin: Okay. Ms. Yuen,.- I do want to add to Alan's comment about the visitor Limit. I made the point that because the State acquired the lands with Federal monies, I mean, we wrestled with that life can August 6, 2015) KhPRC Meetu' lg MM* ULe$ Page 19 we het the local guys go unlimited and just limit visitors only to the park? But because it was acquired with Federal monies, we cannot discriminate somebody who Rives in Hawaii even, much less somebody from Kaua'i, from somebody who is from the mainland. So that is something we are wrestling with in figuring out how to implement this visitor limit, but the idea was that this would just be a first cut, we would let local practitioners continue to use the park, and see what happens then. I don't think we've defined it necessarily, and that may have been on purpose that we weren't overly specific about who can go, who cannot, but the idea was that we are trying to keep it loose enough to respect the local community that still. wants to go, and like Alan said, maybe in the mornings and evenings there's no visitor limit; it's only from the peak hours that that number counter starts. But there are a lot of different ways that State Parks can actually implement this and that's why it's a management strategy. It's not something that's set in stone. It's something State Parks can adjust if it's not working. If the local community says life after a monih, I still cannot get to the park, this is not working, and State Parks takes a look, well the Environment, the experience at the park has changed with even that initial reduction, you know, hey maybe that gets adjusted. But the idea is to creatively come up with a way to, I mean, like I said we cannot discriminate between locals and non - locals, so how can we reduce that but still respect chose who live in the community who still want to go to the park whenever they want without clearly saying the 900 only applies to out -of -state people or something to that effect. State Pa.rks has to be very creative on how this gets implemented, but the idea is and like Alan said, the intent was never to reduce the number of local visitors. In tact, the whole point of why it was instituted, according to the advisory committee, was that local people don't even go now because Ws'not someplace they want to go; it's just overrun, they just don't want to be there. So the first thing that needs to happen is the period of ho'oma'a; let the park rest, let nobody in for a week. They're talking about just trying to get everything back under control, start at some point, you know 900 came up because it was* less than half, it seemed like a reasonable number based on historic counts, and then adjust it from there.. If we're finding out that local residents are being precluded from using the park, these guys are not going to keep taking thosephone calls, they are going to make adjustments, and that was the idea. It's a management call, it's something that's adjustable over time, but the community just felt the park just needed a break; it is just way too overrun, it's been way boo overrun For way too long, and everybody just... Mr. Helder: I don't disagree with you, but it sounds like it's de facto become a Federal Park,, Ms. GrifTim. Is there anybody from the public that wants to speak at all ? Okay. Deputy Director Kaaina Hull: IVs. Griffin.61 Yes, Kaaina. If I could... Mr. Hull: Was there somebody that wanted to speak? Sorry. Ms. GrifEn: No. August 6, 2015 KHPRC Meeting Minutes Face 20 Mr. Hull: If I could interject here, too. Kimi folks have had a bit of a yeoman's effort. I actually attended a few of the meetings in the beginning, and they are extremely contentious meetings that they've held out in Hak"'ena. Essentially, the big issue was moving the visitors away from the rockfall because they didn't want to have to; essentially, strip away that rock area. I think this Conm-iission is focusing on what is one (1) of the primary issues of the Park and that's access, which is not going to fall on deaf ears because that's the big controversy right now going on with them. lend that's where they will be focusing on for the next several years as they push through the EIS and they actually push through the permit process. What I would urge this Commission to realize is that don't let that issue,, necessarily, be your sole focus in the sense that there is some cultural Practitioner access issues,, as Commissioner Helder is getting into, but there may be other historical issues at hand that will get lost if you solely focus on his big controversial side, be it the recognition of the Caretaker's site or the restoration of that cottage in particular or the historical district that's in that vicinity. You may want to take this to e to address these historical issues because it's not only the purview of this Commission, that's really where a lot of the authority and a .lot of the potential changes or where the state, through this EIS process, will be really listening to what needs to be said about the historical, be it cultural practitioner, be it structures, be ii archaeological sites. If this Commission misses that opportunity because it's going to focus on the real controversial issue, which is doing to get a loft of focus and that will probably be the bulk of thefocus that they have to handle with, but don't let the other historical elements fall by the wayside in exchange for that. So I kind of urge this Commission to hind of focus on some of those other issues that might not be as controversial or sexy as access, but it really deserves as much weight, if not moxe sometilaies. Ms. Griffin: Thank you. And I do have a question. In the maps in your presentation, you showed the elevated boardwalk over the lo"i" and I know that some of those walls have been carbon dated to 1!1000 years. I was wondering if the Hui Maka'aivna o Makana agrees with that route. Ms. Yuen: That was actually recommended by them. Ms. Griffin: U Ms. Yuen:. So, and Akan you should j'wup in, where we've located it, Alan right, there's actually no stone walls. Mr. Cgpenter* Right. Ms. ,Yuen: It's earth berm. Mr. C az�penter: There are earth berms in between, probably what are older stone walls,, and these are later additions that subdivided the lo'i. We thought about it, specifically in a way to impact as little as possible and from an Archaeologist standpoint, which is my background, we have plenty of places if we need to do more research, but we did a full inventory survey of this prior and actually our dates were actually 700 years old for this paxticular site, with a later phase about 300 years ago. But we did consider banking that research potential, or whatever, as well for the future, August 6. 2015 K11PRC Meeting mutes Page: 21 and this is a route that was as close to the rockfall zone as we could gel: and still be safe. The boardwalk breaks the continuity of that system a little bit, so you want to have it as close to the highway or as close to the edge of the lo'l' system as you possibly could so that you have an unbroken system from there all the way to the ocean. It was definitely considered. The secondary thing, of course, is that we hear t hat p eople aren't learning or appreciating enough about thinEs other than the beach and the trail. and this is an onbortunity to send neonle to let them really appreciate it from above without standing in it and impacting it, and glove them. interpretive stories along the way, safely. It enriches the experience for everybody. Ms. Schneider: Were you going to rebuild the Allerton Cottage? Mr. Carpenter: The Allerton Cottage is still in fair condition. Ms. Schneider; No the one that burnt dawn. Mr. Carpenter: is there for per We have no intent to rebuild the Allerton House, the main house, no. The potential hags a staging area, maybe even a roof pavilion, or something like that that can be associated with prep f are not going to try to Ms, Yuen: oz hula practitioners as they head to the actual traditional site. But no, we replicate the old house. I thinly part of the discussion we had and we on purpose kind of left very little recommended for that area because we feel the hula community should really be the ones to say what happens in that space, so that's why we just kind of designated the area as a hul In 'Initial discussions with Kumu Hula Kehaulam Kekua, she actually thought well, a complex, you Icnow, maybe it's not too bad to have it as an open staging area, or whatever it is, for them. X think tho 114 ideas will come up later and what they want to actually do in that space, but that's why that area we don't really have too much recommended. It's for a fature planning phase that should involve the hula community. Ms. Griffin.- Y was impressed with the plan. Y know it was a result of a lot of hard work and a lot of years and some fault starts. One of the things that Y, and we got this document of l.,0 18 pages fairly recently, it's been less than 24 hours, so while I've seen parts of it, I haven't seen the whole thing, but the idea of having a cultural advisory committee sounds really good. But you know and X know that places life the 1977 L!11u'e Development Plan recommended a community advisory committee, and I was wondering with our kahu relationship with Kanel"olouma and the private-public partnerships that are starting, is that the way you see it? Or are you recommending to reserve a certain amount of funds to have that happen? How is the Master Plan going to assist making the advisory committees actually happen.? Ms. Yuen: If you want to read another voluminous docuraent the Master Plan report itself is attached as a CD because it was just way too much paper to paint, but in the appendix of that, the advisory committee probably vetted every possible thing on this, so there was a whole meeting set aside even to discuss that and what that would bc like. NTBG has a similar committee, so they kind of framed out some existing rues that would be on it, how often they would meet, and that August 6, 201 S KHPRC Meeting Minutes Page, 22 kind of thing, so that was attached as an appendix as kind of a groundwork for State Parks to look at and use possibly in doing this. I think the great thing about this project and our current advisory committee is that there is still a lot of energy. Like they want to see this through and they were the ones that said hey, what about a broader community advisory group, so I mean the fact that they would still want to keep on it, and the concept there was that they just meek maybe once a year with State Parks to see where they're at, implementation. If there's any kind of projects to come to, I mean State Parks, this is a wonderful resource for State Parks to have, too, because now they have a body that they can vet things off before they have to go in front of the larger public, so I think bath ways I mean, it's in State Parks interest to keep that going. 7 don't think this community will let them not have one, so This is a pretty vocal, active community group. I thinly State Parks will be hearing from them whether they like it or not, honestly. Mr. Carpenter: We like it actually. Ms. Yuen: yeah, no 7 think it's been great, the relationship I've seen it change and evolve, and I think it's a good thing . And even over the it's been 7 years, so hopefully it can continue. Ms. Griffin: As to the houses and even the orientation center and ail, we would expect as a body, the Historic Preservation Review Commission, to be involved as you all look to rehabilitate those. Any other questions? Mr. Long: Yes, I have a question. Ms. Griffin: Yes. Mr. Long: Is the area mauka of tile old highway then off limits to the public; the caves? Ms. Yuen; That's a good question. Mr. Carpenter. Well most of the area mauka of the highway is cliff, but there are the two (2) cables; one (1) immediately adjacent is the road and one (1) with a walkway, old asphalt roadway, up to it. There's a third site, there's a rock shelter, and then there is Lohi'au"s house site right at the end. They aren't going to be developed to attract people, and of course this plays very heavily into the fact that they are all within the rocicfall zone. So traffic will be diverted away from the caves, and in fact what was originally envisioned as the pedestrian pathway was the highway corridor. That all dot changed due to the rockfall assessment, and the desire by the commuxuty, and us, to not deface makana, the cliff. So everything got pushed into a safety zone. There will be viewing opportunities of the cave, presumably from the same pathway, the elevated pathway. whether we will allow people at their own risk and with adequate warning to go and. approach the paves, I mean I think, personally, it's kind of an eye right now with the number of signs and warning sins we have, probably. Y think we don't physically have the ability to keep people out, but they will not be invited there or it won't be developed'. Auorust 6, 201S KHPRC Meeting M' Utes Page 23 Ms. Yuen:, The primary reason for that is that according to the rockw'a11 engineers, those are actual the most hazardous areas because of the shear face of "It. If a rock fell off of it, it would fall on you, it's not going to bounce,, it's not doing to go anywhere else; it is going straight down where people would be. So that is what we were wrestling with. Mr. Long: Has anyone ever been hurt by a falling rack? Ms. Yuen:, There's been stories. I mean, even a member of our advisory committee had said there was one (1) instance when they have gone out, drove the length of Ke"a. In that short time that they turned around to come back, there was maybe a 7 or 8 foot boulder that had. fallen on the highway. And this was many years ado, but it's happened not in too distant history. even when we heard the initial findings from the rackwall engineers, they had identified, was it four (4)? That you guys actually ended up removing that could have imminently fallen within that time, so State parks went ahead and dealt with those rocks that were about to fall down. It's not something that Slate Parks wants to just kind of say, will you know, people still want to go there; it's a huge liability for them. Mr. LonR: It has to find balance. Ms. Yuen-., That's exactly it, Mr. Long: from protecting the public and.. . Ms. Yuen: If nobody sued State P right, if nobody sued State Parks,, took everything under their own, or followed the signs; or whatever, but anyway, . Mx. Carpenter: It's a liability issue, but nobody wants anybody to het hurt or killed either, right, so. Mr. Lon2-.. It would be mice if, in your plan, those cultural areas, the caves, you know, some people like to go to, and particularly the one up above local people like to go to, not encourage, but maybe at your own risk. I'd 11"ke-that, Ms. Yuen:. Yep, exactly. And I think... Mr. Carpenter: It would have to be. Ms. Yuen: Yes, it would have to be. And the other way we could address those key sites that we know people still want to go to, maybe it becomes a guided tour, maybe something that's a little more controlled where it's not just a free for all, this knowingly. But those things kind of need t potential hazards that are there. Ms. Griffin: Anne. but people are informed of the Frisks and you do a fall into place now that State Parks la-imovs the August 6, 2015 Page 24 KHPRC Meeting Minutes Ms. Sebiaelder: How does this impact the road that's an the register? Ms. Yuen: So actually, the impact is going to be less because youwon"t have so many people or cars on it. Ms. Schneider: Right, but will you change anything about the road? Ms. Yuen: N0. No. If anything, what had came up was if fihere was a potential way is make that surface more pervious,, meaning water can actually filter througb it a little bit better., that was kind of discussed,, but There was some debase about actually changing the paving material and whether- that would jeopardize its integrity. So that kind of discussion, I think, was on the table for now because Y don't tbink. it would maintain the integrity that got it on the register, but otherwise there's nothing else. Ms. Griffin: Okay. Mr. You know, if lot coverage is an issue, there are new materials out for paving that are semipermeable; just in the last few years. Ms. Yuen: That's definitely what we're proposing; even for the pathways. boardwalk would have an open structure, I would think, so that wouldn't be an know, even the pathways around the parking lot, all of that is discussed as hav material. Mr. Long: Is the boardwalk ADA? Ms. Yuen., It would be. It would be recommended to be ADA. Mr. LOD�: How wide? Ms. Yuen: we've estimated between 8 and 10 feet. It allow bikes or not on it. I think if we're going to do minimum width. But we also don't worst to impact the something that's too intrusive is the lo *1 versus appropi ADA accessible. of course the issue, but you ing permeable depends whether State Parks is going to bikes, then 10 feet would likely be the lo'l' ether so it's that delicate balance of 9 --late access, but yes, at the minimum it's Ms. Griffill: Commissioners, we have some choices here. We can accept as presented, we can make comments todav or we can Take the documentation back. studv it Lnore and there's time for 11 .7 If us to .make comments at our September meeting. Sowhat is your pleasure.? Ms. Schneider-, I think it would be better if we all had a chance to read the make any comments. Has everybody had a chance to Bread it ? (Laughter in Ms. Griffin.* And the 137 page CIA, Cultural Impact Assessment. document before we background) .August 6, 2015 KHPRC Meeting Minutes Page 25 That will put some pressure on our Staff to be able to take comments at our September 3'd meeting and get it to the Master Plan folks by the 8th before the comYnents close. Mr. I- -dull: Simi, the comments period closes September 8"' ? Ms. Yuen: Yes. Mr. Hull# Well that de pends because Y know we talked with the chair earlier about possible change because of staffing for the September meeting. In order for the comments to go to OEQC for the comment process from thi's'body, it has to be acted upon by This body; it has to bc officially voted upon by this body. Ms. Griffin: So if there's other important business, perhaps we can have two (2) meetings next month. Mr, Hull: 'Yeah, it's just that the meeting will have to be held prior to September 8th, right? Mr. Helder left the meeting at 4:27 p.m. Ms. GrifRn: Right, that would be what's on the agenda now; as the 3,d, Mr. Hull: 0h, T see where you're going Pat. Ms. Schneider: Ube have a meeting scheduled for the 3rd Mr. Hull: That's correct, yes. :t Ms. Schneider.-. So would you have time if we? Mr. Hull: T think what would be, probably, best in order to facilitate somewhat of an efficient meeting, would be if Commissioners had particular comments that they wanted to float during the t hearing that you forward it to Staff and we can craft it in a manner that would be most appropriate for a motion and discussion. Ms. Griffin. That's an excellent suggestion. Thank you. Is everyone willing to do that? Take a, stronger look at, or a longer look I guess., at this document. Come back next month, and in the meantime, before the one (1) week sunshine rule, get comments to Staff., so that the discussion at the September 3rd meeting can be directed and easier to translate into a rnernorandurn. Mr. Hull: You can email those directly to me. If we have any questions or discussion the comments that are emailed, then I can discuss with you how exactly you want that. And just to be clear, as T watch Jodi possibly hesitate, as long as the comments aren't shared with other Commission members, right ?' (Laughter in background) August 6, 2015 KHPRC Meeting Minutes Page 26 Ms. Schneider: Just with you. Mr. Hull-. Just directly with Staff to help with the crafting. N4s. Griffin., of course. We wouldn't dream of doing anything. May I have a motion to defer? Ms. Schneider: I make a motion that we defer all comments until the next meeting on September 3 rd Mr. Helder returned to the meeting at 4:29 p.m. 11 'Ms. Gratin: f Is there a second? With no second, the motion dies. So may I have another motion on haw to respond to the f1d'ena State Master Phan? Ms. Higuehi*-Sayegusa: Did you folks have any comments now`? There are a couple of options here; you can deer it to the next meeting; made comments at that point, make comments today, receive it at ibis paint. Ms. Schneider: I think it was such a 1 hours to make comments. ang document that it was too much to absorb in a couple of Ms. Griffin-- This body is charged with the responsibility to protect,, preserve, and maintain. the historic resources of the Jaunty. It is incumbent on us to respond to documents of this level of importance, so I'd like to get some comment or the deferral to newt month.. Yes,, Stephen. Mr. Long;. I'd like to male a motion that we defer our comments on this plan until our next meeting, but in preparation for the next meeting that all of our comments, after we have read the t be forwarded to Myles or Kaam*a before the meeting, so they are concise and to the point. N4s. Schneider: I second t Ms. Griffm: It's been'i-noved and seconded that we defer any Off1C1dl comments until our September 3rd meeting, and that the comments that each of us individually have about the plan, having reviewed it more thoroughly, be forwarded... what's the Friday before September 3rd? Mr. Hull: August 28tn Ms. griffin: Before August 28th, so that there will be the apparturrity to have a concise report that the Commissian then can respond to. August 6, 201; KHPRC Mcct*ing Minute Page 2 7 Any discussion? (None) All in favor? (6 ayes) Opposed? Ms-..Santos:. Me. Ms. Griffin: So it's six (6) in favor, one �I ) opposed. Motion carries 6:1. Thank you so much. We appreciate the time that you've spent with us today. Ms. Yuen:. Thank you for having us. Mr. Carpenter: Thank you. Ms. Higuchi-Sayegusa left the meeting at 4:33 p.m. Deputy County Attorney Andrea Suzuki entered the meeting at 4:33 p.m. fie: Letter (7127/15) from Donald L. Smith, P.E., Acting District engineer, State of Hawaii, Department of Transportation, Highways Division requesting to discuss the bridges that are currently planned for rehabilitation or replacement, Ms. Griffin: So Item I3.3., undez New Business, is the letter from Donatd L. Smith, P.E., Acting District Engineer from the Department of Transportation to discuss the bridges that are currently planned for rehabilitation or replacement. Mr. Smith, it's always a pleasure. Donald-Smitho. Hello. Donald Smi*th, Hawaii Department of Transportation.,, Kauai District. Ms. Griffin: doing to talk We got your letter,, so let us know what you're thinking. It looks like today you I re about Kapaia, Mr. Smith: Actually,, at the last m0ma'to eet ing for a Bridge Park Project, the Commission requested that the Hawai 'i Department of Transportation produce a list of bridges that we might: or would be working on in the future. So I would like to address that. Ms. Griffin: okay. Nor. Smith: I did bring... did everybody get the handout? If you look at the handout, the bridges that are highlighted are bridges that we are currently working an either a design contract or working on a design for. These are Mo (2) lists. one (1) list is the functionally obsolete State bridges list. Functionally obsolete is, essentially, means that when it was designed,, it wild no longer meet the purposes of the current roadway system; whether it be for tykes of vehicles or size of vehicles, weights of vehicles that type of tbing. Then the structurally deficient list, which is the. smaller list., is actually a list that's generated from our Federally Mandated Bridge Inspeciion Program. knee a bridge receives a rating of a certain number, "it becomes or is on_the structurally deficient list, X will say this carefully because it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to fall dovNm, but it does mean that it needs attention. It helps us to generate a list of what to work on newt, so you can see on that A u gist 6s 2015 KH'RC Mei e ing Minutes 'age 29 list that most of those have been highlighted so we are going to be working on those. I thinly the Wailua River Bridge-, we are actually under contract for repairs. 1'he only one on this list I'm not 100 % sure about is the Lumaha'i Stream.. It's either one of the Wainiha Bridges that we're going to replace or it's either the one, for some odd reason it's Still on the list. I don't think so, I think it's one of the Wainiha Bridges. But if not, the Lumaha'i' Stream Bridge has already been replaced along time ago. I m not sure why it's still on the list. T, actually, was not (inaudible) that question before I gat hire today, but dust had come across it. I apologize for that, but if it's on these lists, that means, for all practical purposes, it's past of the infrastructure that needs work, either way. So somewhere down the Tine as you look at this, it will be in line to have some work done to it. To answer the Commission's request from a longer lookout on what we might be doing, I present that. Ms. Griffin: Thank you. Mr. Smith; Any questions?, Ms. Griffin: I'm sorry. In your (Kapaia) Stream Bridge Project. go to the Kap aia Bride? letter of duly 27th, you said you'd like to present the Hanal-nd'ulu Do you want us to ask the general questions first and then you'll Ms. Schneider,-, I just had a question about the Wainiha Bridges. Mr. Smith: Y Ms, Schneider: Are you going to replace them? Is that what you're planning to do? Mr. Smith: Currently, yes. ,rust on a for Central Federal Lands, who is Transportation, to deliver some projects, and Kapa'a Stream Bridge. Part of yon ate, you wi11 get a request for the September 3`d meeting currently working with the Hawal' ` i Department of which are the three (3) Wainiha Bridges, Hanapepe-, 7F, s handout was actually some of the material from those folks, just to dive you a heads up and to be thinking about it. At this point in time, 1 can speak generically about any of the projects, but I really want to wait. This was really just to kind of give you a heads up for what's coming on the September 3" meeting, so you all could be thinking about it, things you would have questions about or concerns to give to Central Federal L and we'd come back next month. Ms. griffin: ether questions? Okay. Teti us about the Hanama-'ulu Bridge. Mr. Smith.- Thank you, Chairperson. We are currently at a point, I guess, of trying to collect information, input, and commtmxty input to come up with a design alternative for this project. what I have liven you, there's three (3) pales in your handout, actually three (3) pages that were part of the presentation that we gave at the public meeting. We have not made any decisions yet whatsoever. The Kapaia Bridge, of course, and I don't have it listed on here, but I August 6, 2015 KRPRC Meeting Ml*nutesl Page 29 believe it was built in the 30'sif I'm not mistaken. The design for the Kapaia Bridge was actually for a fifteen (15) ton truck. If you equate that out, that's & * d versus what we allow today, it's much less than half. It 'is also on the structurally deficient list. There are issues outside of; but when you have a bridge that's that old, carrying that amount of weight, what you will find is it will start to show signs of fatigue and distress,, which is what's occurring at the Kapaia Bridge which is park. of this project. We intend to upgrade the structural integrity. From an engineering standpoint, I don't know of any other way to do that other than to rebuild it. I'm not sure of an avenue by which I guess anything's possible with an amount of money, but there are some deficiencies there in width. We do have some bikes and pedestrians and some other users that have to face the restrictions there that we'd Tike to look at going forward, and of course we'd like to bring that up to current Loading standards. The last picture that was included in that is the APE, which is the area of potential effector impact. One (1) of the things that I'm definitely very interested in, from hearing from this commission now or going forward, is that anything that you all are aware of, not only with the bridge itself historically, you know, any historical significwice there with the bridge, or in the area that you would like to bring to our attention as we move forward with this project. Ms. Santos left the meeting at 4:41 p.m. Mr. Chaffin Jr.: What are the legal implications in this discussion? If there is an accident, is the State or the Jaunty responsible? Because they know this is a problem and they haven': either closed it or rectified it. Mr. Smith; If it was a problem of immediate or eminent danger, we would close if. So that's the reason I said that carefully in that we call it the structurally deficient list, but that doesn't mean,, .. if you were to close all of the bridges across the United States that were on the structurally deficient list, we wouldn't go anywhere. Itis just a measure that we use to put on that bridge to Let us Icnow that we need to take action. I kind of had to address that at the public meeting; should we be driving on it? Well, it's okay. If at any point in time, which is why we have the Federally Mandated Bridge Inspection Program so you do go back to that bridge, and then if anything is identified during that time limit that remedial action or immediate action will be taken. Thank • you. Ms. Santos returned to the meeting at 4;42 p.m. Ms. Griffin: ether questions? Can you cell us an correcting the geometric deficiencies, what is the width of the bridge now? And what will it be? Nor. Smith: I think that currently... and I do have this information, I just did not bring it with me. Again, I must apologize. I think there are two (2) 11 foot lanes and two (2) 2 foot shoulders, so it's currently about 26 feet, maybe. Ms. Griffin: Okay. And the shoulders, currently part of it is fudge factor and part of if is curbed with a very narrow sidewalk, essentially. When you feel dike you're taking your life in your hands August 6 2015 KHPRC Meeting Minutes Page 30 as you walk it, I might add. The 8 foot wide shoulders, are that bridge and building something new from scratch.? Mr. Smith: Yes ma'am. Ms. Griffis: Is it going to have extension of the lanes? Is any of it Mr. Smith-.,, Curbed? Ms. Giiffin: Yes. Mr, Smith: M s. griffin C-U-R-B-E-D? Right, right. you talking about totally demolishing curbs? Is part going to be shoulder, part essentially a lined going to he curbed :for pedestrians? Mr. Smith: Okay,, got you. Yes, there will he a separation. I can't cell you what that would look like just now because we haven't came up with it, but yes, there would he a distinct separation between the pedestrian facility and the roadway facility. It's at least possible that we could puff a bridge with two (2) lanes, shoulders which would be the hike lane, and a pedestrian walkway outside of that. At this point in time, I'm just not sure. Ms. Griffin: Surrounding the bri'dge, under it, what hi-storic areas and perhaps residences are going to be impacted by this? Mr. Smith: Did you get, by any chance, the letter that we sent? Not that one, the consultation letter. Ms. Griffin: No. Not to my knowledge. t Mr. Smith: Y should have sent it with this packet., but we did send you, and I was kind of curious, we did.qenclan artlla] eonslilt,9tinn lefter- which aetlia]ly niitlined all ofthoqe historical areas that were documented, Y should have included it. Alain, lesson learned. (Laughter) There are quite a fe- w, to my understanding, historical features in this area as it was once a farming comrnLulity. r guess at some point in time the plantation, the plantation land, Y don't know of all of the structures or all that went along with that either, but there is quite a bit in the area. Ms. Griffin: Stay right there. I just want to make sure. Is there anyone from the public that would like to testif r in large or scope of knowledge? Okay. Then we will keep going. Last year, I think it was completed, there was a statewide historic regimentory done, completed by Fung Associates and the State. I'm wondering what comments are in that document about this bridge; its level, the importance, its history, and so forth. Mr. Smith: I don't know. August 6, 2015 KHPRC MeeLing Minutes Page 31 Ms. Griffin: okay. (Laughter in background) You'know what, Fm thinking if there's time if everybody else agrees, it would be a good idea to come back to us wi1;h. a larger scope adverse impacts of this particular job and what historic resources are being affected. Do I need a motion for that or can we just get a.,.? Mr. Helder: He basically sai Isn't that right? on the d that this is a presentation about what is going to happen next month. Mr. Smith: No. Not for the Kapaia Bridge. you early and often, (Laughter in background Actually, I am here only in the spirit of coming to IVs. Griffin: Anal we'll always enjoy seeing you., Donald. Mr. Smith,* The idea is, we haven't made any decisions yet. It's really just part of the 106 consultation process to go and find out all of the historical information I can, I am here for that reason to find out and historical information that I can. I will make sure that I can go back and make sure that I send that letter back through the process, the consultation letter, so that you can get that to everybody because it does identity some of the historical components of the area. There are some components of that area that were not included in that report at the request of the folks in the area. You know, you have to have their permission, so a lot of that: is included. I'll make sure you get that. Ms. GrifEn: okay. That's really helpful becauseit's easier for us to respond when we have more knowledge and information on the property, whatever it is. So that will be really helpful to us. Yes, Stephen. Mr. Long: I have a question and a comment. The question is, I see here two (2) 12 foot lanes v�rith 8 fool wide shoulder, plural, so is that two (2) 8 :fool wide shoulders and two (2) 12 foot lanes? Which would be... Mr. Smith: That would be a total of 40 feet. Mr. Long: 26 to 40 feet. So right now, its I I and 11, and 2 and 2; and they want to go to 12 and 12, and 8 and 8. That's the question, thank you for clarifying that. And the comment is, in general, it's easier for me to respond to drawings, particularly when it's a physical abject, rather than words. So if you want to present design ideas, for me it's easier to see them in a graphic form. Ms. Schneider: I agree. Mr. Smith: And I realize that. Again, keeping in mind that the spirit here is just to lit you know as early as possible before any decisions have been made. I understand exactly what you said. I do intend to come back. I guess the idea was isthat if you had identified it though as a bridge that., August 6, 2015 KEPRC Meeting, .Minutes Page 32 such as the C)ma'o Bridge, where you did identify if as a particular group of bridges that you were concerned about; if you had any concerns early on that should be addressed. So the idea would be is that you know I'm planning on tearing this bridge down. (Laughter in background) Because Z physically don't know how...1 have very few funds, so you know, if I don't have to, T wouldn't, but in this case I do believe I do, and I wanted you to know chat. Then if you had any concerns in regard to that and to this particular structure you know about. I will comae back with some additional information. I will, at some point in time, come back with design alternatives that we choose; whether it be rnakai or rn.auka, I'm still struggling with that right now so. Ms. Griffin: There are times when a bridge is so irnpoi-tant, historically, and within the life of the community that it becomes -f nding ways to preserve it is the first priority. There are times that the historic properties, view plains., cultural activities around it become very important. It is sounding like that may be the case in this particular structure, so chat's why I was asking and why it would be helpful to have more information an that. By the way, while I'm thinking of it, thank you so much for waiting so bong to take your turn, Are there other questions particularly on Kapaia? Other suggestions for Mr. Smith who is a bit new to this game i back to us in ways to matte all of our lives more comfortable? Then, may I have a motion that we Kapaia Bridge at the next meeting? n Hawaii? Su ggestions oncoming formally ask for h to bring more material to us about the Ms. Schneider: Z make a motion that we September 3rd meeting, if that's possible. have additional material for the Kapaia Bridge at the Ms, Griffin: Wail. It's been moved. Do I have a second? Ms. Wichmans.- Second. Mr. Helder: Now you can have discussion. Ms. Griffin: Second. Now. Mr. Chaffin Jr.: When you say "additional 'Information"... Ms. Schneider: Well life Stephen would ask to see some drawings. It would be much easier to assess through a drawing. Ms. Griffin: And the historical sites around it, the things that we were asking; what the historic bridge inventory says, what the current width is, so how that enlargement is going to impact, So more about the current structure and the impacts that changing it ivill have. August G, 2015 KHPRC Meeting Minutes Page; 33 Ms. Santos: I don't think he's going to have that at the next meting. This was just a, hi, how you doing, here's a bridge, I'm doing to tear it down, maybe I1.1 come backin another sic ("6) months. Right? Mr. Smith: Yes ma'am. (Laughter in background) Ms. Griffin-, You may not have drawings, but you should certainly have, Donald, the historical Mr, Smith to information. and the historic bridge .inventory is a done deal. So I think there will be, if not, drawings., which we wouldn't want you to do all of that without us anyway. Mr. Smith:- Right. Ms. Griffin: But I think that the information on the impacts to historic places we can certainly... Nir. Smith: Then my request would be to revise the motion to allow me to come back when I have a fuller picture. Not at the point when the decisions are made, but just when I've been able to put together the information because I won't have any pictures. I will forward you the consultation letter, which, ..I'm not sure what went wrong there... so I will forward you the consultation letter which has the APE and all of those sites identified. I don"t want to confuse the September ;`a meeting because you'll have lots to tali about with AFL, so if you could just wait for this one, I'II come back when I have a fuller.. . NIs. Griffin: May r have an amendment that we not have it on the September 3r6 meeting, but at the earliest meeting when the necessary materials are available? mss. Schneider: 1 amend the motion that we ask him to come back when he has the materials available to brief us on the project. Ms. Griffin: Second? N4r. Helder,: Second. Ms. Griffin: Okay., It's been moved and seconded that we amend the motion asking Mr, Smith to come back when he has all of the materials available for discussion., All in favor? (Unanimous voice vote) Opposed? None, The amendment ha s carried 7:0. Now for the full motion that we ask Department of Transportation, Mr. Smith, to bring these materials to us that will help define what the historical sites are around it and what impacts are going to have with this new bridge and the demolition of the existing. Discussion.? Hearing none, All in favor? (Unanimous voice vote) Apposed? None. The motion carries 7:Q. Mr. Smith; Going forward, again, in the interest of making sure the information gets to you so that you have the availability to call me up to sec it and all of those tbings. I don't want to waste August 6, 2Q 15 I<J IPRC Meeting l'nuteq Pabe 3 4 any time, but I don't want to come too little, don't want to come too much. So as me being new to this situation, I just ask for your patience and your feedback to let me know when we're doing good, or we want more, we wadi Less. And we will do what we can on our end to make sure that you get that information and have time t Ms. G Thank you. o digest it and comment on it and have input on the project. 0 Ms. Wichiian.#. I'd just like, to thank you verb much for all of the information that you are giving us, and your willingness to keep us apprised of what's going on. Z really appreciate that. Thank you. Mr. Long: It's not easy moving to Hawal"i with all these names, but you'll get it; just stick with it. (Laughter inbackground) Ms. Griffin--, Victoria's right. We do really appreciate it and do not mean these questions antagonistically in any way. We just have to work through this together and we got intopractice with your predecessor so it's realty good. And we do appreciate your willingness to come, so thank you very much. Mr. Smith: Thank you. UNFINISHED BUSINESS Ms,. Griffin: Now we have other business. We have all of the Unfinished Business. C.1. and C.2. Y believe that the Permitted Interaction Group in C.3., we decided last would wait until Kaua'I' Nun Kuapapa made a presentation. Mr. Helder left the meeting at 4:58 p.m. Especially month we Ms. Wickman: Yes, Y had mentioned that to them, and they didn't contact Myles in time for this one. Ms. Griffin: Okay. Ms. Wickman: But they'd like to do that. Re: Discussion on the, status of the Certified Local Government. a, Compile list of neighborhoods residences. Ms. Griffin:- Alright,, neighborhoods on Kauai discussion and agreed we Historic Preservation has Our discussion appropriate for would come some fluids. on Kaua'i appropriate for surveys of historic of Certified Local Government, compile a list of surveys of historic residences. )Ve've had some back this month and talk about that because the State They are hoping to identify two (2) resideniial. areas on 0 August 6, 2015 Rage 35 Z<JPR C Meeting Minutes each island to follow -up on a State, and possibly National, Register nomination., Do you have any suggestions? Ms. Schneider: Well 3 in looking at the plat maps, we can see both Hanapepe and Hanalei have many historic properties that are over the 50 year and are endani�ered. Ms. Griffin: ethers? Ms. Wichman'. `You had suggested the Gay and Robinson property at one time. Ms. Griffin: I actually have se laughing at me already. veral suggestions, but I don't want to dominate the ... Kaaina's Ms. Wichrnan: Looking for the districts though, it was a little difficult to look for districts. Ms. Schneider: Well if you took the inventor and put them on the platmaps, plat maps, you could see Hanapepe- and Hanalei both had nLiunerous properties-. Ms. Wichman-, No., they do. Ms. Schneider: Of course Olokele Sugar, that whole street as weii, and looked at the Ms. Griffin-. Z know you're in archaeology, but as our State Historic Preservation Division representative, would you come up to the hot seat for us please, Mary Jane? I'm sorry, Anna. Excuse me, mina. Forgive me. And I knew that so well, Z J'Ust., forgive me. des, you are here. r spoke to Mike Faye about the west side and the first thing he said was Kekaha. There are lots of residences through there, part on the beach, but past in the neighborhoods that are endangered because as styles change, these aren't particularly appreciated. I have pictures of several Kapa'a residences, I mean they're casual pictures, they're windshield pictures. that would give a sense of that. Alpo, the 'Waimea Plantation Camp, Lihu'e side of the Plantation Cottages, is really well kept. They're well attended. There are people living there that take great pride in them. There is a Hongwanj*i, the 'Waimea Higashi Hongwanj'l', again, well kepi; and classic worker plantation houses. We calked about Kaumakani". Again, it's a real special little avenue and the houses on it. Ms. Schneider: And it has street lamps. Ms. Griffin: It has street lamps. It has this, really unusual for the amenda building. "then the Olokele Mill at the end of the property. area, Spanish- Mission style Ms. Schneider: And the Plantation Manager's House which is on the other side. Ms. Griffin: Right. We have a member of our Commission who knows the Hwiape-p6/Kaldheo area well, so I did not approach that area. But I also wanted to talk about `Akahi and `Elua Street because the Lihu'e Town Core Plan addresses some of the possibilities of that like keeping the August 6, 2015 KHPRC Mecting Minutes Page 36 hedges a certain height and a hunter business in the back. There are still several houses on `Akahi Street; `Elua, though, is still more intact. However, this house that's near Ahukl'nl* on `Elua Street is currently on the market for $$g4,000 with the "For Sale" sign saying "commercial property potential ". That's why I think these two (2) blacks are exceedingly endangered even with the Town Core Plan activity. Again, Y have several pictures of homes. The next, in the district where llive,, especially since Ms. Arinaga is not here today, is the Kapa'a Baby Beach area that were Plantation Management homes and along that beachfront, too. A lot of those are pretty safe in the neighborhood, but a lot of the ones right along the oceanfront that are becoming B &Bs and things, the pressure to build differently is strong. Since four (4) of the nine (9) of us are from the north shore, Y thought that those of you from that area would be good; although there are places, Tike you say, along peke Road where you've got old craftsman houses. A few are on the National Register, but when there's a house on the Bay that is a historic home and it's on the market for $30 million, there's a good chance what's going to come will be very different. So in terms of endangered and what's happening to that community, that is there. And these are for you. Other places? Mr. Long: How would you like Lis, as a Commission, to make a recommendation for these folks to follow? X mean, should we want to decide these are our three (3) or four (4) top neighborhoods? Anna Broverman: r think that would be really helpful for us. We're planning on doing at least three (3) days of surveys here in September, We're going to have about eight ($) to ten (10) people doing it. I think if we could have a recommendation of... X' d say three (3) to four (4) areas we could definitely do min that time period, so those would be very helpful to have-.as suggestions. Mr. Chaffin Jr.: Who is "we "? Ms. Broverman: State Historic Preservation Division. I'm with the Architecture Branch. Ms. Griffin:- This is Anna Broverman. I apologize, again, sitting back there I had a mind warp. (Laughter in background) Alright, so what are your recommendations? Ms. Schneider: Do you want to just list them? Mr. Chaffin Jr. large area or'? what are the parameters of our recommendation? You mean a small area or a Ms. Schneider: That they are eligible to be a district, right? Aucust 6, 2015 KJORC Me ctin g M i n u i cs Page 37 Ms. Broverman: 'Yes. We're looking at Residential Districts, so Housing Districts, but also places with commercial main streets, potentially. We want them to be eligible for the Registcr and we also are looking for places that are potentially endangered. So those arc our criteria. Ms. Schneider: Do we want to make a recommendation? Ms. Grinin. Yes , that's what I'm asking foz- is that, like Stephen suggested that we order it in some way, say five (5) different areas or whatever they can look at. Mr. Chaffin Jr.: I would like to see a list of what the areas could be and then we could pick from that list. Ms. Schneider: The list is the inventory, isn't it?. Ms. Griffin: The areas are where there are several historic ... and This is residential that they're doing. The State, this year, passed a laver that historic houses no- longer need to go to the State Historic Preservation division for review, unless they are already on the State or National Register. In doing that, they also gave $ 100,000 each of two (2) years for SHPD to locate and identify and potentially place on the State Register or something, follow-up m a way that will give us a body of appreciated historic districts,, Historic districts vary in size considerably and they are almost always non-conforming structures within that historic area. Ms. Santos: I have to leave, in like five (5) minutes, because we have a salt maker's meting. Ms. Griffin: Okay. Ms. pantos: okay, so I'm going to do my nominations. r do the Waimea Town because that's a good one; that whole section right there before the Cottages. Then I do the HanapEpE Town. There's that side street right there and all those back streets over there; that includes Hana�epe Malley, just because. Ms. Schneiders,,, Both sides of the river. Ms. Santos: list, Yes, both sides of the river., yes. I say Pdkala--, just because. You have to add it to the Ms. Schneider': Absolutely. Ms. Santos: You have to add it to the list. You can't not add it to the list. Ms. Griffin: You know, I couldn't get down there to take photos. I found one (1) aerial, but.. . Ms. Schneider:. Yes, M aweli. August 6, 2015 KHPRL Meeting Minutes Page 3 8 Ms. Santos: And plus because they want to do all that development over there, that is high on the list of places. . Mr. Long: You know, you are only going to have money for two (2) or two (2) and two (2)? Ms. Broverman,-,. T-"To (2) -�Nlhat? Mr. Long: Two (2) historical neighborhoods. Ms. Santos: They have eight (8) people here. They are going to have eight (8) people here to do the assessments. Ms. Brovennan:. Yes. And it's not going to be a money factor; it'll be t So we are trying to get a document of areas surveyed to the legislature by February. Mr. Long,:- How many neighborhoods are you going to do? Ms. Brovermant, I think, realistically, use can do about four (4) neighborhoods. Mr. Lo Four (4) in one (1) year? Or two (2) in one (I), two (2) in the next? Ms. Broverman: Yes, for this year. And we'll 'have money for nest year as well. Mr, Lon You do? Ms. Broverman: Yes. Mr. mull: And Anna, that's four (4) for Kaua'i or four (4) statewide? Ms. Broverman,*- Kauai. Mr. Long: Okay, so that's four- 4 for Kauai in the first tranche of money. Ms. Broverman.- Yes., Mr. Long: Okay. Ms. Santos: So I'm doing to name mine, and then you guys can say ``yay" or "nay ". Mr. Long: Yeah. I was just wondering if we had to combine the Pdkald and Waimea. I'm sorry. Ms. Santos: Well Pdkala- is big; Pdkala- is huge. It's not Kaumakani lxIaere it's just that one (1) street. Ms. S Right, right. August Ca 2015 KHPRC Meeting Minutes ?age 39 Ms. Santos: You know what 7'm saying? Y mean, that would be the most prominent one, but we've not really developing Kaumakani right now because in Pdkald they want to go and build a... whatever they're doing over There, I mean, that would be my top pick right now. And maybe Pdkald with that one (1) Kaumakaniroad, and t house across the sheet. Thai's kind of my thing for the west side. McBryde is kind of cool, but it's so run down over t but people are still living in there; people sill got their stuff going on in there. I think that's not really a neighborhood anymore so it doesn't count. Mr. Hull: Yeah, and to somewhat interject, as the recommendations come Through, Staff can look at them further. as well. But I thifflc also to manna's point, or to SHPD's point, if the purpose is essentially because the State legislature passed a law that removed the requirement for residential buildings to have to go through SH-PD review, and therefore SHPD is now looking for residential neighborhoods in order to fold those residential structures backmto the review, potentially, should changes be made_ I think Waimea Town or Hanapeo-*'pe- Town are perfect candidates for historic districts in and of themselves. For the purpose of folding say residential structures in though, that might not necessarily be there because of the :fact that those are primarily commercial structures. If there are alterations being made to structures over fifty (50) years or older, they are going to have to come to you folks anyway. Ultimately, what the goal SHPD 'is, to a certain degree and correct me if Im wrong Anna, is trying to establish is to somewhat quickly fold in a few areas of residential areas. Ms. Schneider@a So Hanalei Town,, Hanale'/Weke Road. would definitely be one (1) of them. Mir. Hull: Yes. If you're going because of the fact that they are like the Ching Young Village area, then some of it might be Rost going to have to come in no matter what. Ms. Schneider: I have been talking to them. Ms. Wichman. That's the problem that I found, too. The problem Y found was you look at housing PP-4-- districts, you know, so most of the historical districts that we have are commercial now. Maybe at one time they were houses, but they have all become commercial, so it's kind of limiting. Ms. Griffin: Right now, there are only six (6) residences on this island that are historic and taping advantage of the historic tax credit. Do other Commissioners have recommendations? Ms. Santos left. the meeting at 5:15 p.m. You mentioned Hanalei'/Weke Road. Ms. Schneider: I Think there are also areas in Kilauea that are associated with the sugar. They are sort of being impacted now as new buildings are coming in, and they are all residential. And only one (1) of them is on the Register; the Trombley's house. Aticyost 6, 2015 IK RC Meeting Minutes 'age 40 Ms. Griffin As I started out, I mentioned Waimea, the plantation camp, not Manager's houses. L'ihu'e., here, which those houses were almost the first time that L-lhu'e Plantation sold land for Managers and things to come in; Consolidated ('inaudible) bought a property for their Manager and bLu*lt a house, Kress bought a property, General Shinseki grew up on `Akahx Street. Ms. Schneider*. Some of them are unique. Ms. Griffm: They are classic, Hawal"i vernacular, single -wall, 9 -foot ceilings, tong and groove, but they are right here in town and I think endangered, So I would like to bring up the Llhu'10 e Town Track, which is what it's formally called. And then, like I said, there was Kapa'a Baby Beach area, Anything else, other Cornnussioners? Mr. Long: 7'11 just put in my two cents worth. In picking up on what Kaaina said about Hanape-pe' and Waimea ToNvn, and I don't know how to judge that myself in weighing whether a commercial versus residential and what we see in the. value. But in placing a lot of weight on what Kaaina said, I would go like this: first for me the street with the street lamps. Ms. Griffin: Kaumakanim. would be the Pdkald and that street. I'm sorry I don't know Mr. Long: So that would be one (1) and I would couple those together because they are pretty close and similar. No. 2 for me would be Kapa'a. Is it Fuji Beach? Yes. No. 3 would be Hanalei, and No. 4 would be L-qlu' e. Ms. Griffin: Other suggestions? S o we've Beach/Fuji and... got the suggestion of Pdkall/Kaumakani, Kapa`alPineapple Management/Baby Beach area malcai of the road across from Big Save and south, the Hanalei[Weke Road Mr. Long: Not just Weke Road, I mean, there are some other areas. Ms. Griffin Makaioftheroad? Or would you go...? Mr. Long; Oh no, i.Vs all makai of the highway., You know, like the KobayasW"s house and property on the beach. Ms. Griffin: Right. And L'lhu'e Town Track; `Alcahi and `Elua. Is there discussion about differing, adding? May Y have a motion? August 6, 2015 KEPRC Meetin 9- Minutes Page 41 Ms. Schneider.:- information. I make a motion that we submit these names of these distri'cts to the State for their Ms. Griffin: Okay. Second.? Quay, it's been moved and seconded. State these names for further research. It was Larry Chaffin that seconded that we submit to the Allin favor? I'm sorry, discussion? Ms, Wichman: Discussion. Will we be able to submit more names if they come up? And if we have anything, oh we forgot about this one? Ms. Broverman: Yes. You can go ahead and send your suggestions to me, and I can give you my card if you need my contact information. Ms. Wichman-.. Just wondering because we might, like tonight in the middle of the ni.ghi, wake up and go, oh I forgot about this place, you know. So I'm trying to think like, K61oa, but it's all commercial downtown Kbloa, but there's dot to be something in Kbloa. There are all these places, and you have to think of housing districts, and I think really limits it. Ms. Schneider: We're thin1c...ing of what's most threatened, r think when you look at anything on the shoreline like in Hanalei, I think those are all threatened. Ms. Wichman: r mean, if we move and approve this list, this isn't finite, right? We'll be able to act. Ms. Broverman: No. I'm planning on solidzfyimg which areas we're surveying within the nest week or two, and so you could still give me ideas until then. Ms. Wichman.p. okay, thank you,, Ms. Griffin: Stephen. Mr. Long: I'm sorry, X was unclear about.. ,there are two (2) trenches of money? Ms. Broverman: Yes. Mr. Long: one (1) this year and one (1) next year? Ms. Broverman: Yes, Mr. Long: $100,000 each year? Ms. Broverman: Yes. August 6, 2015 KHPRC Meeting MM* Utes Page 42 Mr. Lo. Just for Kaua'i? Or for statewide? Ms. Braverman: It's for statewide. _ Mr. Land: And Kaua'l* gets what percentage of that? Ms. Grif-fin: I'm sorry, Ste-r)hen, hold onto that and we'll ask, but we have a motion on the floor. It's been moved and seconded that we submit these possibilities to the State for their survey. We should discuss specific to the motion, Mr. Long: And. it �s specifically to Victoria's concern of being able to present additional neiahborhaods in the future, and I'rn tryinv, to clarify that we have another whole year in which to present additional neighborhoods. Ms. Griffin: Okay.. it's been in order and the rest that have moved and seconded that we submit these names, the first four (4) come up, to the State 16 for their survey coming up soon.. All in favor? (5 ayes) apposed? You're opposed? M 1P s. H Yes. Ms, Griffin: That's five (S) in favor, one (1) opposed, and the motion carries 5:1. You look like you have something you want to say. Mr. Hull: I was going to add, real briefly, because the discussion is goi'*ngl'-nto historic preservation of particularly residential structures and the districting and the process that goes by. I just want to make the commission aware chat... and I believe some Commissioners are aware because the topic was brought up particularly about commercial redevelopment of residential properties, like in Kekaha or whatnot. One (1) thing that is an the books that is of fair amount of lucrative gain can be done to it through historical preservation is-, currently you guys may well be aware of the transient vacation rental issue, for or against, wherever you are afi. It's an extremely lucrative business and it's proven to be so. The only way that you can legally get a transient vacation rental now on this island, outside of those visitor destination areas, is to have your property an the Historical Register. If you are on the State Historical Register., you can become a legal TVR; kind of just literally stamped over the counter. Right now, individuals., property owners, and quite frankly, investment houses from California and China are trying to figure out how to get their hands on TVRs here, and the one (1) way you can do it is to have your property registered. That doesn't mean that you are going to be able to register this.. . Ms. Schneider: So that means automatically they get the... ? Mr. Hull: you can automatically get that approval. But it doesn't mean to say like "oh I have a house now. I'm going to put if on the Register." Obviously, A -nna will attest to the fact that it's not that easy to get on the Register. It's going to have some type of significant place, either the August 6,, 2C 15 KEPRC Meothig Minutes P aae 43 architecture or the history of Kauai. But just so you folks are aware, that is a particul boon, and reason to register as we're crying to push property ownexs to go that route. Ms. Griffin: And that's a County ordinance? Mr. Hull: As within the actual Transient vacation Rental Ordinance. ar avenue, We kept, l of, silent on it because of the fact that we were afraid that it would blow out of control. Quite frankly, nobody has even attempted to use it in the pass five (5) or six (6) years, and it would be actually nice to see if. that would actually work because it might gel some folks more amped and pumped about preservation. (Laughter in background) Ms, Broverman: I apologize, but my flight literally heaves in an hour, so I have to leave. Ms. Griffin-.% That's fine. We normally are not this extensive, but we do ppreciate it and you will be getting a letter from us. Ms. Brovennan: Thank you all very much for yoiu comments. It's very helpful. Ms. Wickman: Thank you. Ms. Schneider: Take care. Ms. Griffin: Is there anything else on this discussion before we go on? Re: Report from investigative committee members (Permi"tted Interaction Group) to discuss and explore strategies on informing the public and land owners on the State and National Register of Historic Places Nomination Process and Incentives for placing historic structures on to the National or State Register of Historic Places. " Ms. Gfiffin." okay. Our last order of business is the report from the Pe-Lnitted Interaction Group to discuss and explore strategies on informing the public and land owners about the State and National Registers and incentives. We did meet; A Stephen and x. Stephen, can you dive a report about what we discussed ? Mr. Lo I can do that. On August 15th, Anne Schneider, Pat Griffin, and myself met at the Princeville library to discuss how the Kauai Historic Preservation Review Commission could promote and encourage the listing of properties to National Register of historic Buildings. We came up With five (5) ideas. (1) was just get the word out with articles in Local. and Stake printed materials about the benefits of National registration, including tax credit benefits. (2) Articles by owners who have already placed their properties on the National Register and have had positive experiences with that as a hook to other potential nominees. (3) Would be displays in libraries and other public places that would circulate and change. (4) We noted that there vvexe August 6, 2015 K PRC Meeting Minutes Page 44 very few residential and commercial buildings on Kauai that are actually on the Register. We discussed the importance of two (2) 111 particular., the Shell Station in Liliu'e. and the Convention Hall, as prime potential candidates for nomination. And (5) we were doing to identify and contact owners of potential properties that are excellent candidates for .nomination to have a more in-depth d iscussion with them to see if they might be interested in pursuing it. Ms. Griffin: Thank: you. Did you have something to add, Anne? Ms. Schneider: No., Ms. Griffin: We knew this was a partial list and that scveral of it-, like No. 1 betting the word out, would take incentive and participation for us to actually to do it. Is there any discussion on the National Register? changing the mindset about it in the public? Mr. Long: You know, we were going to have Ian, who's now lost- to us ]:'m sure, or somebody give us a talk. on the tax credit incentives. If we were educated in that wad then we could educate other people. Ms. Griffin,*. Is that something that the Staff can put together and ask Ian for next meeting? Great. So hopefully because that is an incentive, certainly. May I have a motion to accept this report and to keep the discussion on placing historic structures on the Register to Deep it on the agenda, so as we move forward that can remain on our minds and we can follow through. Ms. Schneider: I make a motion that we accept this meeting, the meeting after to have some resolution. Ms. Griffin,*, Second.? Ms. Wichman: Second. report and keep working on it, if not the next Ms. Griffin'., Thanks_ It's been moped and seconded that the Historic Preservation Review Commission accept this report and to keel it on future agendas so that we can continue to discuss it. Yes? Mr. Chaffin Jr.: Cmi you define what the report is? Ms. Grifl"in: First of all, as you know from your time in the County, for more than two (2) of us to talk about something like this and make it more efficient to bring back, instead of taking time for everybody, a Permitted Interaction Group was started. The report was to find out ways to change the mindset, that's been identified, that the National and State Registers are a burden, rather than a possibility. So that's what Stephen was saying, was we came up with five (S) different possibilities on getting the word out through various means, having displays and getting the word- out, and finding out more about tax credits and other financial incentives. So that's what the report 40 is, and instead of just., . . August 6, 2013' KHPRC Meeting Minutes Page 45 Mr. Chaffin Jr.: Excuse me. It's a verbal report rather than a printed report? Ms. Griffin: Correct, Mr. Chaffin Jr.: 'Thank you. Ms. Griffin: ether discussion? It's been moved and seconded. vote} apposed? Nearing none, the motion carries 6:a. A.11 in favor? (Unanimous voce Re: Report from investigative committee (Permitted Interaction Group) to discuss and explore ereating a Smart Phone Application to identify and highlight Historic properties on Kauai. Ms. Griffin: Arid the other PIG, on smart hone apps, has r�oi yet met. Ms. Wichnian: No. We'll defer that for now. Ms. Griffin: O so please keep that on the agenda. I. COMMISSION EDUCATION (None) Ms. Griffin: E., C Education. We have none today, but are looking forward to next month. SELECTION OF NEXT MEETING DATE AND AGENDA TOPICS (9/3/2015) mss. Griffin: The next meeting will be on September 3rd. Are there any other a what we've just identified, that someone would like to put on the agenda? Benda topics, beyond Mr. Chaffin Jr.: This is just a question. Being a new member, are the meetings usually ending at this time? Ms. Griffin: No This one is rally long. Mr. Chaffin Jr.: Or should we start earlier? Ms, Griffin: adjourned. Igo, this is unusually long. S o agenda topics? N o. Hearing none, the meetilig is ADJOURNMENT August 6, 2015 KHPRC Meeting MinLdes Wage 46 The meeting was adjourned at 5:33 p.m. Respectfully Submitted, Darcie Agaran Commission Support Clerk Date: Mr. Michael Dahilig, .Director Department of Planning County of Kaua'I' 4444 Rice Street, Suite 473 Lihue,, Hawai'i X6766 Dear Mr. Dahilig: Subject: Environment of Kaua'i) September 8, 2015 / ,��. ..mo•t� � f•: � y•a ' . t. ��� r Y Nom'✓ " ..� ,ice «.. .�"•. VolL al Reviews for Federally-Subsidized Public Housing Projects (County* Section 106 Consultation — No Effect Determination The State of Hawai`i, Hawai i Public Housing Authority (HPHA) is proposi ng to conduit repair and rehabilitation improvement projects to six existing public housing projects located throughout the bounty of Kauai over the next five (5) years (2015- 2020 ), The State HPHA is &P subsequently conducting environmental reviews for these existing public housing proj ecis in conformance with U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) requirements specified under 24 MFR Part 58 because Federal funds would be used. One of the environmental review r State Historic Preservation Officer under the National Historic Preservation Act, as amended (NHPA) (16 U.S.C. 470(f)}, Repair and rehabilitation improvements using Federal funds is considered an "undertaking" under these regulations, and the State HPHA is serving as the Agency Official initiating this Section 106 consultation process for this project. A "no historic properties affected" determination is proposed for repair and rehabilitation improvements that would be implemented at the six existing public housing project sites. Further information justifying this dete ination is provided with this let-ter. eQuirernents is conducting Section 106 consultation with the Proiect Description Funding for These housing projects are being expended through Federal funds from HUD under the Economic Development Irritiative (EDI) Special Project Grant, Capital Fund Grants, or othE available grants. Repair and rehabilitation improvements implemented for housing projects are not considered a "major construction activity" following actions identified below. and would involve one or a combination of the 1. Acquisition, repair, improvement, reconstruction, or rehabilitation of public facilities and utilities that would not increase the capacity or size of existing facilities by more than 20 percent. OCT 0 1 2015 Mr. Dahilig, County of Kauai, September 8 2015 Page 2 Department of Planning 2. Interior and exterior improvements directed to the removal of material and architectural barriers that restrict the mobility of and accessibility to elderly and handicapped persons. 36 Rehabilitation of buildings and improvements when the density is not increased beyond four units, the land use is not changed, and the building footprint is not increased in a floodplain or wetland. 4. Rehabilitation of multi-family residential buildings that would not: 1) result in a change in density by more than 20 percent; 2) involve changes in land use from residential to non - residential; and 3) the cost of rehabilitation is less than 75 percent of the total estimated cost of replacement after rehabilitation. 5. Rehabilitation of non - residential structures that would not: 1) result in a change in size or capacity by more than 20 percent,, and 2) involve changes in tand use; 6. Structural repairs to buildings and other existing structures e.g., roofing, exterior walls ). 7. Interior and exterior renovations and rehabilitation. $. A n individual action on up to four dwelling units where there is a maximum of four units on any one site. The units: 1) can be four one-urrit buildings or one four -unit building or any combination; or 2) an individual action of five or more housing units developed on scattered sites when the sites are more than 2,000 feet apart and there are not more than four housing units an any one site. 9. Acquisition or disposition of, or equity loans on an existing structure, or acquisition of vacant land provided that the structure or land acquired, financed, or disposed of will be retained for the same use. These types of repair and renovation improvements could consist of site and dwelling improvements that may include modernization of buildings (interior and exterior), infrastructure repair and upgrades (sewer, water, drainage), utility repair and upgrades (mechanical'. electrical, gas), abatement of hazardous materials, accessibility improvements, concrete repair, solar hot water installation with installation of tank less gas -fired instantaneous backup, site lighting, tree trmirmng,, resurfacing or paving of parking lots and sideNvalks, and wall repair. For projects with elevators, improvements could consist of elevator upgrades. In addition, HPHA will evaluate repair and renovation improvements programmed to ensure the nature of the work falls within the nine categories described. Area of Potential Effect and Identification of Historic Properties A listing of the six housing projects included under this Section 106 consultation is provided in Exhibit A along with information on existing land use. The "area of potential effect" (APE) on It- historic properties was established based upon the improvements that would occur which consist of repair and renovation work to existing buildings, units, and common area facilities. Utility repair or rehabilitation work would occur within the project site. The APE was therefore determined to consist of the property boundary associated with each housing project. A Mr. Dahifig, County of Kauai, September 8, 20L5 Page 3 Department of Planning There are no known historic properties present within the properties of housing projects listed in Exhibit A. This is based upon; 1) similar HUD required environmental reviews conducted by HPHA in 2010 and prior which included site visits; 2) information on the State's fisting of historic sites included on the State and National Registers of Historic Places; and 3} HPHA's experience with prior repair and renovation work occurring at these housing project sites. All of these properties have been extensively altered as part of prior construction of housing projects. Exhibit A also includes the year the housing projects were completed and initially occupied, and none of these projects have buildings 50 years old or older. Determination of Effect Based upon these efforts and review of each existing housing project, no historic properties were identified. Therefore, HPHA has determined that no historic properties would be affected bv the various repair and rehabilitation improvements prof eGts, that may beimplemented for these We are soliciting yo-Lit comments on this no historic We would greatly appreciate your written response sooner if possible. housing properties affected proposed determination. within 30 days of receipt of this letter, or Please contact me at 457 -3172 or via email at rsataghhf.com if you have any questions. Sincerely, Ronald A. S AICP Senior Associate Enclosures ec: Lisa Izu M Project Engineer, HPHA Enclostires -- Exhibit A EXHIBIT A LISTING OF HOUSING PROJECTS I..HPHA Project No. Housing Prqj'ect Name : Street Address Pqffown island zip Code Tax Map Key Year Completed & Occupied Kauai County (6 Projects) 101 9 Hale Hoo tulu (El d) 4264 Ala Muku Place Kilauea Kauai 96751 5-2-08.-56 1974 APE Acreage: I - 0 0 Lmid Use-. Used as residential bousing project Historic Properties PresciA: No 1055 Hale Hoonanea (Eld) 4401 Waialo Road Eleele Kauai 96705 2.1-03:17 1976 APE Acreage: 2,51 LandUst: Used. as residential housing pro*ect I-fistoric ) Preseat: No 1054 Hale Nani Kai O'Kea (Eld) 4g50 Kawaihau lid. Kapaa Kauai 96746 4- 6- 1d:105 1977 :APE Acreage: 3.4.7 Land Use,: Used as cesiden.tial housing project 1- listo.ric .P No 1023 Home Nani {Eld) Moana & Laau Rd. Waimea Kauai 96796 1 -6 -07:31 19'74 AYE Acreage: 0.4.5 LandUse: Llsed as residential hoUS1119 project Historic'Propti-ties]. resent: No 1086 Kawaitehua f �= ederat) 5230 Paanau End. Kotoa Kauai 96756 2 -fi -04:58 1993 A-PE Acreage: 2. 10 Land Use: Used as residential hotising Project Historic Properties Present: No I064 Kekaha Ha'aheo 8238 1wipolena St. Kekaha Kauai 96752 1 -3 -0824 & 1982 APE Acreage-. 9.25 Land Use,: used as resi.dpnitial housing project 11istoric Propertics Present.- No ..t Bernard P. Carvalho, Jr. Mayor Nadine K. Nakamura Managing Director PLANNING DEPARTMENT County of Kauai, State of Hawaii 444-4 Rice Street, Suite A -473, Llu`e, Hawai`i 46766 TEL (808) 241 -4051} FAX (80$) 241 -6699 To: Kaua'i Historic Prese Fr: Kii'aina H i ►Ti i � 7 7 [ � 7 . � \ a D 71 1 I rvation Review Commission Deputy Direcfor of Plannin Date: September 24, 2015 RE: Hd `ena State Park Master Plan Comments for Draft EIS Michael A. Dahilig Director of Planning Ka'51'na S. Hull Deputy Director of Planning 1 ting had questions for and discussions On August 6, 2015, the �.auai Historic Preservation Commission (K.HPRC) received and eviewed the Draft Environmental impact Statement for the Ha` ena State Park Master Plan..At ting, had questions for and discussions r the meeting, th the representative of the Department of Land and Natural Resources (DLNR). In order to allow members of the KHPRC to forward comments to the Department, and for the Department to review and gather die comments together, action for the subject agenda item was deferred to the next KHPRC meeting. The following are the comments that the Department has received concerning this subject agenda item. The Department is in concurrence with the follovaong comments and recommends adoption so that they can be forwarded to be incorporated into the comments for the subject Draft EIS. The KEPRC is charged with "protecting, prese developing the historic resources of the County of Kaua'i." Ha`ena State Park and areas J ruing, perpetuating, promoting, enhancing and around it contain many such resources, sites of legendary cultural significance where the importance of preservation, protecti the wahi papa at Hd' ena have been an and perpetuation can hardly be overstated. Yet some of abused over time through ignorance, neglect and overuse. t steps toward reversing the cumulative impacts of misuse and creates a blueprint for sound practices going forward, including: 1. The recognition � The "Ha`ena State Park Master Flan" recommends importan of the entire park as culturally and hi 2. The importance of preserving significant cultural and 3. The ne starica.11y significant, historic sites. ed for the park to be "a living place" that includes revival of cultural practices. An Equal Opportunitj) Employe y I r�r OCT 0 1 2015 4. The establishment of a county partnership with State Parks to create a Hula Complex, encompassing Ka Ulu a Paoa Heiau and Ke Ahu a Laka. 5. The protection of former burial sites and restoration of the dune system. 6. The importance of pre serving/restoring/cultivating the traditional ag�.cultural complex. 7. The commitment to locate new facilities "in previously disturbed areas to minimize impacts to archaeologically sensitive areas" (p. 4-9).0 8. The intention to rehab Montgomery House. itate two historic houses: the Allerton Caretaker's Cottage and 9. The creation and continuing involvement of a cultural advisory group consisting of individuals, families and local community members with historic and cultural ties to Hd'ena, who will assure appropriate interpretation, management practices and uses. 1 O. The establishment of a community advisory group for "ongoing support and consultation" (t). 2 -31) about aeneral &relevant regional issues as well a -4 le le implementation. 11. The exemption of those engaging in cultural practices e.g., hula, fishing, agriculture, s plan. family care of ancestral remains} from total daily'visitor count, 12. The requirement of first-time visitors to attend an education and orientation session to x enhance sensitivity and understanding of the park's cultural/historic resources. 13. The appointment of caretaker and security staff to deter vandalism and misuse of the park's resources. Concerns about obstacles that could impede the successful protection, preservation, perpetuation, promotion and enhancement of Ha""'ena's cultural and historic resources include: 1. Failure to complete the Ha'ena State Park Master Plan (which in one form or another has already been in process for 21 years) or if adopted, to actively utilize it as a 2. 3. 416 working conceptual and management document. The inability to acquire the many millions of dollars r end results. The failure to mitigate current stress on the park as a The lack of mana advisory g equired to achieve the stated result of increasing overuse. Bement capabilities to maintain dynamic cultural and community 5. Pressure to expand recreation uses in the park that undermine protection of cultural/historic resources. 6_ The potential that efforts to iDrotect the nark's cultural resources will lead to a visual blight of educational structur museum experience than a es, signage and walkway �ry special "living" place S. creating more of an outdoor CAU sers\sji menez\Ap p Data IocakMi crosoffiWi n dowslTem porary Internet FileslContent .OutlookUSAKUNNEIKHPRC_Haena_ State_ Park_Master_Plan_Draft_Commenis (00000003),docx +%r .a, ;w 1 1 ALL WORK AND WATER+ALS SMALL BE PERFORMED AN) INSTALLED 14 ACCORI)ANC - W '11 I1 I! CURREW EDITIONS OF THE FOLLOWING CODLS AS ADOPTED ev TH ; LOCAL GOVERNING AL,' * HORITIF- -S. NO-HINC IN THESE PLANS IS TO BE CONSTRUCTED TO PERMrT WOR4 40'' CO \FDRMING 70 THESE CODES. I . 13C - 2006, INTERNAT1ONA6. BUILDING COQ= AL'_ CONSTRUCTION WI ftL CONFORM TO THE 2006 INTE.RNA fIONAL 13JIMINC CODE `2006 18C) AND THE LATEST COUP OF HAWAII AMENOYENTS AND ORDINANCES. 2. 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