HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Subdivision 112216 MinutesKAUAI PLANNING COMMISSION
SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE MEETING
November 22, 2016
The regular meeting of the Planning Commission Subdivision Committee of the County of
Kauai was called to order at 8:32 a.m., at the Lihu`e Civic Center, Mo`ikeha Building, in
meeting room 2A -2B. The following Commissioners were present:
Mr. Sean Mahoney
Mr. Roy Ho
Mr. Kimo Keawe
The following staff members were present: Planning Department — Chance Bukoski, Dale Cua;
Deputy County Attorney Jodi Higuchi Sayegusa; Office of Boards and Commissions —
Administrator Jay Furfaro (entered at 8:46 a.m), Commission Support Clerk Darcie Agaran
Discussion of the meeting, in effect, ensued:
CALL TO ORDER
Planning Commission Chair Mahoney called the meeting to order at 8:32 a.m.
ROLL CALL
Staff Planner Chance Bukoski: Chair Mahoney?
Chair Mahoney: Here,
Mr. Bukoski: Commissioner Keawe?
Mr. Keawe: Here.
Mr. Bukoski: Commissioner Ho?
Mr. Ho: Here,
Mr. Bukoski: Three (3) present.
Chair Mahoney: Okay,
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
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Chair Mahoney: Approval of the Agenda.
Mr. Keawe: Move to approve the agenda as listed.
Mr. Ho: Second.
Chair Mahoney: It's been moved and seconded. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor
say aye. (Unanimous voice vote) Opposed? (None) Motion carries 3:0.
MINUTES of the meetinp,(s) of the Subdivision Committee
Regular Meeting of October 25, 2016
Chair Mahoney: Minutes of the meeting (of the) Subdivision Committee, Regular Meeting of
October 25, 2016,
Mr. Ho: Move to receive.
Chair Mahoney: Is it approve?
Mr. Keawe: Second. Move to approve. Second.
Chair Mahoney: Alright. Is that a move to approve?
Mr. Ho: Yes, please.
Chair Mahoney: And...
Mr. Keawe: Second,
Chair Mahoney: Second. It's been moved and seconded. Any discussion? Hearing none. All
in favor say aye. (Unanimous voice vote) Opposed? (None) Motion carried 3:0.
RECEIPT OF ITEMS FOR THE RECORD (None)
Chair Mahoney: Receipt of Items for the Record. There's none.
Mr. Bukoski: None.
Chair Mahoney: Okay.
HEARINGS AND PUBLIC COMMENT
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Chair Mahoney: Hearings and Public Comment. At this time, if any member of the public
would like to testify on an agenda item, they may do so, or do it after the presentation. Seeing
none.
GENERAL BUSINESS MATTERS (None)
Chair Mahoney: Okay. Next, General Business Matters. None.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS (None)
Chair Mahoney: Unfinished Business. None,
NEW BUSINESS (For Action)
Tentative Subdivision Approval
Subdivision
Application
No. S- 2017 -3;
GROVE
FARM,
INC; Proposed
24ot
Subdivision;
TMK: (4) 3 -8 -002: 001 &
Por. 02,
(4) 3 -8-
003:001; Lihu`e, Kauai
Chair Mahoney: New Business for Action. Tentative Subdivision Approval. Subdivision
Application No. S- 2017 -3, Grove Farm, Inc., proposed 2 -lot subdivision, TMK: (4) 3 -8 -002: 001
and portion 02, (4) 3 -8- 003:001, Lihu`e, Kauai.
We'll go to the Planner, please, for the report.
Mr. Bukoski: Thank you, Chair. Consideration of Subdivision Application No. S- 2017 -3 that
involves a subdivision of a lot into two (2) lots. The evaluation — the proposed development
subdivides a parcel into two (2) lots within the Agriculture zoning district. As represented, the
purpose of this subdivision is to convey Lot 1 -A -5 -A to the County of Kauai for the
development of the Adolescent Treatment and Healing Center, also known as ATHC. Per
Section 8 -8.3, section c, 1 and 2 of the Kauai County Code, the subdivision is being requested
by the County of Kauai and therefore, the "one- time" subdivision rule does not apply. We have
received all government agency comments and we are recommending tentative approval.
Chair Mahoney: Are there any questions for the Planner? Seeing none. Is there a representative
for the applicant present? Could you state your name for the record, please?
Maren Arismendez: Good morning. My name is Maren Arismendez. I'm here on behalf of
Esaki Surveying. We are they surveyors for this subdivision.
John Kirkpatrick: I'm John Kirkpatrick. I'm from Belt Collins. We are the planners working on
this project, along with Esaki, and we are here to answer any questions.
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Chair Mahoney: Are there any questions from the Commissioners?
Mr.
Keawe: I have one (1) question with regard to...subject
to the approval, how long do you
see
this process taking
through the planning process
and construction?
Mr. Kirkpatrick: We have to, obviously, go through all the approvals. At the moment, the
architect is working on construction and his engineer, which happens to be Esaki, is working on
the off - sites, so we expect, once the permits are received, to be able to go ahead full speed. The
money has been allocated by the State Legislature, so this is a go so long as all appropriate is are
dotted and is are crossed.
Mr. Keawe: Okay. Are you working just on preconstruction planning? Or...
Mr. Kirkpatrick: That's correct.
Mr. Keawe: Okay,
Mr. Kirkpatrick: Yeah, I'm sorry. Our work goes through the permits at which point.. .
Mr. Keawe: You stop and somebody else takes over.
Mr. Kirkpatrick: Well, Mark Ventura is already working, but he's responsible.
Mr. Keawe: Okay. Can either one of you give us a little bit about the facility itself?
Mr. Kirkpatrick: A little bit. Of course let me stress that Theresa Koki from Life's Choices
Kauai is the one who has been with this process for a very, very long time. Residential
treatment is going to be at the heart of this, but it's part of a full- functioning system that includes
assessment and includes outpatient treatment as well, as appropriate, given clinical judgement of
people who know much more about this than I do. Small facility. It's basically there to help
people who ... above all those who would otherwise end up in a place like Bobby Benson on
Oahu and for whom contact for the families and reintegration in family and community
afterward becomes very, very difficult. So it's a chance to have, on the island, the full spectrum
of services needed to reduce, basically, dependence on illicit substances, help people turn away,
and then help people be reintegrated with the community. I think I can say that
without... anything more?
Mr. Keawe: How many patients, typically, do you look at servicing?
Mr. Kirkpatrick: We're talking about eight (8) beds. So that's the number of beds, although I
keep screaming to them that you should have space for expansion, if needed, in the long -term.
So you would have up to eight (8) in residential treatment, then you have outpatient treatment of
various kinds; some of which can be basically half- to full -day. So people who are there in
treatment full -scale could easily be on the order of twenty (20) to twenty -five (25). One of the
things that's going on here is that the Department of Education is willing to provide a teacher.
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For the residential and, perhaps, for some of the outpatient kids, there would be schooling going
on as well as treatment.
Mr. Keawe: Good. Thank you.
Mr. Kirkpatrick: Thank you.
Mr. Ho: Sean.
Chair Mahoney: Commissioner Ho.
Mr. Ho: From this description, you will be needing staff housing, also?
Mr. Kirkpatrick: No. This can be staffed by people on the island. There would be staff on -site
24/7, but that means there would be somebody there, basically, in a watchman role; I mean, as a
supervisor /watchman role. You wouldn't have staff housing on -site.
Mr. Ho: Boy, this is a tough one. Will there be a criminal element in this? People sent to you
by courts?
Mr. Kirkpatrick: If there are people sent by courts, it's ... I think it's better to think of it as
diversionary rather than criminal. Believe me, I'm not the attorney here. (Laughter) But the
whole idea is to get people before they're into the court system and /or into the correctional
system. Hopefully what this means is fewer people ending up in ... yeah, in the correction center.
With that said, you know, I think the County and the clinical people we're working with are very
aware of the fact that these are people who ... quite often, who've gotten into — shall we say — into
bad company or maybe bad company themselves. We are concerned about them wandering
away, so there will be observation/supervision. There will be a working relationship with the
County Police Department; both to recruit potential people who need help and in case anything
arises. We've been talking ... I shouldn't say "we ". I should say Theresa and the Mayor's Office
have been talking extensively with Hanama`ulu Community Association, who obviously has
some concern. This is about a mile away. A little less than a mile away from the nearest houses
and they want to feel comfortable that ... people are thinking about their well - being. And the
simple answer I can give you is yes, that is being attended to, if that's really where your question
is coming from.
Mr. Ho: What does Grove Farm have planned for that ... their use of the other property there?
Mr. Kirkpatrick: The rest of the ... the parcel is gigantic as you see.
Mr. Ho: Yeah,
Mr. Kirkpatrick: There are bits on it that are in uses like a solar farm and there's some
that, ..across the road that's being used for pasturage. This particular little bit that I'm talking
about, the 5 -acre parcel that the County hopes to get from Grove Farm, as far as we can see, has
not been in use for many, many years. It's been basically just sitting there. There may have
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been some pasturage. I'm not sure how long ago, but it's just part of the larger area. What does
Grove Farm want over the long -term? I don't have that. I'll have to ask them. And if you want,
we can bring back an answer to you on that when we come back.
Chair Mahoney: Any other questions? Alright. Anything further discussion? This is for
tentative subdivision approval. It's not final. It's tentative subdivision approval, so the Chair
will entertain a motion.
Mr. Keawe: Move to approve tentative subdivision, Application No. S- 2017 -3, Grove Farm,
Inc., proposed 2 -lot subdivision, TMK: (4) 3 -8- 002:001 and portion of 02, (4) 3 -8- 003:001,
Lihu`e, Kauai.
Mr. Ho: Second,
Chair Mahoney: It's been moved and seconded. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All in
favor signify by saying aye. (Unanimous voice vote) Opposed? (None) Motion carried 3:0.
Thank you.
Mr. Kirkpatrick: Thank you.
Subdivision Extension Request
Subdivision
Application
No. S- 2011
request, it should be noted
-20; KUKU`IULA
DEVELOPMENT CO LLC;
Proposed 6 -lot
represented, the applicant
Subdivision; TMK:
(4) 2 -6- 019:026 &
029; K61oa, Kauai
Chair Mahoney: New Business for Action. Subdivision Extension Request. Subdivision
Application No. S- 2011 -20, Kukui`ula Development Co. LLC, proposed 6 -lot subdivision,
TMK: (4) 2 -6- 019:026 and 029.
Mr. Bukoski: Thank you, Chair. The findings and background of the parcel — the proposed
subdivision establishes a total of six (6) lots within the Kukui`ula Residential Subdivision, Phase
III -B and is a County Zoned Residential District R -10, Resort District RR -10, and Open and
Open Space Special Treatment District ST -O. This application was granted tentative approval
by the Planning Commission on May 24, 2011 and the applicant's request is the fourth extension
of the tentative approval. The subject property is located within the Kukui`ula Master Planned
Area between Ala Kukui`ula and Lawa`i Road. It extends approximately 150 feet west of the
Lawa`i Road and Alania Road intersection and runs east adjacent to Lawa`i Road 'til
approximately 950 feet east of the most western point of the Lawa`i Beach Resort property.
Administrator Furfaro entered the meeting at 8:46 a.m.
Mr. Bukoski: It should be noted that the proposed development is subject to the zoning
amendment requirements set forth through Ordinance No. PM- 2004 -3701
The
progression of the subdivision
— in consideration of the extension
request, it should be noted
that
the applicant has shown some
progress with the development. As
represented, the applicant
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has been trying to comply with the requirements of the tentative approval. The applicant is still
working to resolve the required infrastructure improvements associated with this application and
determining the applicable requirements of the County Department of Water, and since it is
uncertain as to when the agency comments will be met, the applicant is requesting additional
time to complete the subdivision. Additional time allows the applicant to prepare construction
plans in order to address the infrastructure requirements for this project. If you have any further
questions, please refer to the attached letter. Based on the foregoing circumstances, the
applicant's reasons are justifiable and no problems are foreseen in granting the extension request.
The Department of Public Works and Water have no objections to this request. However, the
applicant shall be made aware that in further considering extension requests involving the
proposed development, the applicant shall submit to the Planning Department an updated status
report on the subdivision in order to justify further extensions.
Chair Mahoney: Any questions for the Planner?
Mr. Ho: I have one.
Chair Mahoney: Okay,
Mr. Ho: Are you satisfied that they are making progress with this?
Mr. Bukoski: Yes. The letter that was explaining to me that I got from Kukui`ula was that this
is their final request. And then looking at, also, the explanation that they gave is that it was just a
12 -inch water main break that was being moved to a ... I mean, an 8 -inch to a 12 -inch main break
on the construction plans, and that's the only thing holding them up.
Chair Mahoney: Okay. Any other questions for the Planner? Is there a representative for the
applicant? Can you state your name for the record, please?
Lindsay Crawford: Good morning. For the record, Lindsay Crawford, Kukui`ula Development
Company,
Chair Mahoney: Okay.
Mr. Keawe: Mr. Crawford, your letter of March 11, 2016 that you wrote to the Planning
Department outlined, you know, your reasoning for the extension. Can you explain a little bit
about the Department of Water, their proposed main upgraded to a 12 -inch and then probably
due somewhat to a change in planning check staff? What does that mean?
Mr. Crawford: Well, that was actually just my supposition. We had these plans in, as you
explained, for about three (3) or four (4) years now and we submitted the plans. There's two (2)
roadways involved in this small little subdivision and we had the plans submitted to the
Department of Water. For the longest time, it showed an 8 -inch main. The plans were close to
being approved and then ... I'm not exactly sure why, but at some point in time, somebody over
there in staff decided it needed to be a 12 -inch, and that was just my supposition that there were
some new faces and that they reassessed the main and decided it needed to be that way.
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Mr. Keawe: And that process,
from
beginning to end, where
your planners had already gone in
with the &inch, took three (3)
years
before someone said it's
going to be 12 (inches)?
Mr. Crawford: No, not three (3) years. I mean, we had the plans in for probably a year and a
half that was both to DPW and DOW, and they were in review and process for about a year and
half /two years, then somewhere around the third year they changed to the 12 -inch. That kind of
made us start over on some of the design, at least the Department of Water review cycle, and to
be perfectly honest, I thought they would've been done long... completed, reviewed, and
approved by now, but we are at the very final throes. The engineers, our consultants, both ATA
and Wilson Okamoto, who have submitted plans to Department of Water are in their, I think,
third and last plan check through DOW to get this over the goal line.
Mr. Keawe: Okay,
Mr. Crawford: It just took a little longer than... (Laughter in background)
Mr. Keawe: Yeah, because, you know, obviously your letter says the DOW signatures on plans
expected mid -2016. So we're at November 22nd
Mr. Crawford: And it didn't happen, so we're asking for one (1) more. Yeah.
Mr. Keawe: Okay,
Chair Mahoney: Any further questions? Commissioner Ho.
Mr. Ho: Isn't that overkill? A 12 -inch water main for only six (6) lots? Or it's not up to you?
(Laughter in background)
Chair Mahoney: If it was, he wouldn't be doing it. (Laughter in background)
Mr. Ho: Okay,
Mr. Crawford: I mean, in all fairness to the Department of Water, they understand what they
wanted, so it wasn't that big of a (inaudible) to us. It did cause some delay, so we just decided to
honor their request and change it to a 12 -inch main.
Chair Mahoney: Okay. Any further questions? Is there a final recommendation from the
Planner?
Mr. Bukoski: It is recommended that an extension until November 4, 2017 be granted to obtain
final subdivision approval. However, the applicant is made aware that an updated status report
on the subdivision with a detailed time chronology on the progress of the tentative approval
requirements shall be submitted to the Planning Department for review for further extension
requests. The status report shall be submitted to the Planning Department no later than sixty (60)
days prior to the expiration date.
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Chair Mahoney: Okay. And you understand the conditions read by the Planner about any
further extensions for status report ... what the Planner just read. Are you...?
Mr. Crawford: Yes, I understand.
Chair Mahoney: Okay. Alright. Any other...? Okay. The Chair will entertain a motion.
Mr.
Ho:
Move to approve extension,
Kukui`ula Development, Tax Map Key (4) 2 -6 -019: 026
and
029,
extension until
November
4,
20170
Mr. Keawe: Second.
Chair Mahoney: It's been moved and seconded. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All in
favor signify by saying aye. (Unanimous voice vote) Opposed? (None) Motion carried 3:0.
Thank you.
Mr. Crawford: Thank you, Commissioners.
ADJOURNMENT
Chair Mahoney: And with no further business, we'll adjourn the meeting.
Chair Mahoney adjourned the meeting at 8:52 a.m.
( ) Approved as circulated (add date of meeting approval).
( ) Approved as amended. See minutes of
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Respectfully submitted by:
arcie Agaran
Commission Support Clerk
meeting.