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Open Session Meeting Minutes of
May 25, 2018
Approved on June 22, 2018
The Regular Open Session Meeting of the Kauai Police Commission was held at the
Lihu`e Civic Center at 9:00 a.m. at the Mo'ikeha Building, Meeting Room 2A/2B. The
following Commissioners were present:
Mary K. Hertog, Vice Chair
Catherine Adams
Leina'ala Jardin
Kevin Mince
Roy Morita
Excused
Gerald Bahouth, Chair
Also present:
Boards and Commissions Support Clerk Mercedes Omo, Board and
Commission Administrator Nicholas R. Courson,
County Attorney Mauna Kea Trask, Deputy Chief of Police Michael Contrades, Assistant Chief
Robert Gausephol, Detective/SHOPO Representative for the district of Kauai Chris Calio,
Acting Captain Mark Ozaki, Officer of the Month Detective Colin Nesbitt and numerous officers
in the Kauai Police Department
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Hertog: Good morning. It's 9:00 a.m. and the Police Commission meeting for 25 May is
now in session. If you would, please turn off your cellphones or put your phones on mute. Also,
if there is anyone in the audience who would like to address the Commission, now is your
opportunity to do so. Seeing no one, we are going to press on. I ask that you be patient with us
because we are going to go in and out of Executive Session a couple of times to accommodate
everyone's schedule. First up, is Detective Chris Calio, from what I understand would like to
make a few comments.
Detective Calio: Good morning Chair Hertog and Commissioners. I'm here on behalf of the
SHOPO (State of Hawaii Organization of Police Officers). I understand that there are some
issues and concerns the Commission wants to discuss with the union. I also understand that
those issues cannot be discussed in this setting so, I would like to respectfully invite all of you to
our Chapter Chair Meeting on June 6, 2018 at 01700 hours. I've been informed by the State
Board of Directors (as I'm a member) that you are allowed to attend our meetings at the Chapter.
Vice Chair Hertog: Where is your meeting at?
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Detective Calio: It's at our SHOPO Office, on Rice Street, right next to the Garden Island BBQ
Restaurant. Thank you.
CHAIR'S COMMENTS/ANNOUNCEMENTS
Vice Chair Hertog: Thank you. The only comment I have today is that it was a great graduation
yesterday. I appreciate the great attendance from all of the officers who there to welcome the
new police officers into the Kauai Police Department. Okay, at this time, we're going ahead
and recognize the Officer of the Month.
RECOGNITION FOR OFFICER AND EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH
Deputy Chief Contrades: Good morning, at this time, I would like to call upon, Acting Captain
Kenneth Cummings to read the recognition for Office of the Month Detective Colin Nesbitt.
Acting Captain Cummings: Captain Kenneth Cummings for the record. Good morning, Vice
Chair Hertog, Commissioners and Chief. To my left is Detective Colin Nesbitt who was
nominated as the Officer of the Month for May 2018. I have a little write-up that I will read to
all of you.
On March 22, 2018 the special focus section of the Investigative Services Bureau conducted a
special project in and around the east Kauai Professional Building in Kapa`a because of the
increase in burglaries and UMVE's in the area. The objectives of the project were to conduct
surveillance, gather intelligence, identify suspicious vehicles and suspects and apprehend any
individuals caught in the act of a crime. While conducting the project a suspicious vehicle was
observed pulling into the northern entrance of the East Kauai Professional Building second story
parking lot. The vehicle was operated by an adult male who entered the building, then exited
and went back to his vehicle. Detective Nesbitt observed the male subject exhibiting strange
behavior in and around his vehicle and based on Detective Nesbitt's training and experience, he
believed that the male subject was getting ready to engage in consuming illegal narcotics.
Detective Nesbitt continued to observe the male subject and observed that the male subject was
continually falling asleep and waking up which is commonly referred to as the "drug nod" which
is consistent behavior for opioid addiction. Detective Nesbitt approached the subject's vehicle
and observed a piece of tin foil with black burn marks in the subject's hand. The burnt tin foil is
commonly associated with individuals who smoke heroin as well as other illegal narcotics.
Detective Nesbitt approached the male subject and advised him of his constitutional rights and
questioned him regarding the drug paraphernalia that was observed in plain view.
Detective Nesbitt was able to get a confession from the suspect stating that he had heroin,
marijuana and methamphetamine in the vehicle. The subject was arrested without incident and
transported back to cellblock for booking. The arrestee's vehicle was seized and transported to
the Kauai Police Department evidence warehouse pending the execution of a search warrant.
On March 28, 2018 a search warrant was executed and heroin, marijuana and a smoking device
with methamphetamine was recovered in the vehicle.
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Because of Detective Nesbitt's keen observation, not only was, he able to recover illegal
narcotics from the vehicle, he prevented the male subject from driving off which would have put
the entire community in jeopardy. Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you, the Kauai Police
Department's Officer of the Month Detective Colin Nesbitt.
Deputy Chief Contrades: Detective Nesbitt, great job. In recognition of your outstanding and
exemplary service to the community on behalf of citizens of the County of Kaua'i, State of
Hawaii and members of the Kauai Police Department. I would like to present this certificate to
you for your exceptional work while assigned to a special project. Your keen observations of the
male subject suspicious behavior in a parked vehicle, subsequent questioning and obtaining of a
search warrant for the vehicle that he occupied lead to the recovery of drug paraphernalia.
Without a doubt your hard work and diligence were significant factors in the recovery of these
items. Your efforts are a true reflection of your dedication to your profession and commitment in
keeping our community safe. Congratulations and thank you for doing such a great job.
Vice Chair Hertog: Officer Nesbitt, thank you so much. I think this is the second or time we
have seen you up here being honored in this way. Heroin has become a huge problem
nationwide and even here on our beautiful island. Thank you for your enforcement activities in
keeping the community safe. Commissioners if you would like to say a few words, please feel
free to do so now.
Detective Nesbitt: Thank you.
Mr. Mince: Colin, great job, obviously. How big of a problem is heroin on this island?
Detective Nesbitt: It has become a huge problem and he believes it has taken the place of
opioids, oxycodone as well as other stuff that are prescribed, but there has been pressure putting
that and now, heroin is coming in.
Mr. Mince: That dovetails on what we learned at the Police Commissioners conference from the
Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) agent. Thank you very much for your efforts.
Detective Nesbitt: Thank you Sir.
Ms. Adams: As a healthcare provider, we are under (inaudible) to reduce the use of opioids and
I think what you're seeing is the spill over. So, thank you, and I know it puts all of our
communities in jeopardy, so again, thank you for your diligence.
Mr. Morita: Thank you, Officer Nesbitt for taking those drugs off of the streets. I understand
that it's an uphill battle for you guys because there is a so much drugs out there, but every little
bit counts so, I appreciate all of your hard work.
Ms. Jardin: Mahalo.
Vice Chair Hertog: If you like say anything to the Commissioners or to your fellow officers,
now is your time to do it.
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Detective Nesbitt: Yes. I would like to thank the group of people that I work with. It's been a
continuous effort on all of us, not just myself. As the Lead Investigator, I have a lot of the team
members who are working with me to meet our goals and keep the community safe from this
problem. Thank you.
Vice Chair Hertog: Because we are switching the agenda around what I would like to do is call
for a motion to take some our agenda items out of sequence.
Ms. Adams: So moved.
Mr. Morita: Second.
Vice Chair Hertog: All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Nays. Hearing none. The
motion carried 5:0. Next up, while we're still in Open Session, I would like to bring up County
Attorney Mauna Kea Trask to speak to us.
Mr. Trask: Aloha, for the record, Mauna Kea Trask, County Attorney. In regard to item ES
2018-020, I believe it's a complaint that was filed by Mr. Gomes and I believe, he also wants to
speak which is permitted because it's an appropriate agenda item in Open Session. As the
Commission is aware there is a three minute time limit on talking in which any member of the
public can speak and thereafter (I believe) the rest gets dealt with in Executive Session.
So that's just the process.
Vice Chair Hertog: Correction, its item ES KPC 2018-018.
Mr. Trask: Thank you. I'm sorry.
Vice Chair Hertog: Okay, we are in Open Session. Mr. Gomes would you like to come up and
address the Commissioners? Please come up and state your name for the record.
Mr. Gomes; Good morning and Aloha Commissioners. My name is Lance Kamuela Gomes
and I'm here as a Konohiki registered under federal laws. Basically, we filed a complaint
because it's in our constitutional rights which covers International Law Title 18, subsection 2441
War Crimes and Title 18, subsection 1091 which covers Acts of Genocide, which is basically a
denial of ones rights.
Its simple things like, we're happy to be able to live here in Hawaii (these are our problems)
instead of living somewhere else in the world. Basically, what we're asking for is that our rights
(it's in the law) are followed and respected. As far as access, it comes down to the First
Amendment Freedom of Religion. I filed this complaint because we're going down to our
families Heiau to clean it, plant food and Ti leaves and we are not harming anybody.
I understand that it does threaten the County and the State's system relating to tax map key
(TMK) and all of that stuff and what's been called private property. With all due respect, I'm
happy to have police officers and everything else that's in place, but what we want is to be
protected and served our rights instead of having our rights violated.
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We don't want to move towards any federal laws suits for human rights violation and war crimes
because it would be bad publicity for the Department. All we ask for our rights to be upheld and
for the officers who are enforcing the law to follow the law. What's happening is, not all officers
are aware or understand our rights because we talk about it all of the time, in every
confrontation. We just need access. The other thing, I wanted to say is, we're being charged
with criminal trespassing while on family lands; it's our families.
He's my uncle (he just doesn't know it). The bottom line is the Hawaii Revised Statutes
violates the United States Constitution and that's why we're trying to make a change. We need to
be able to go home to our lands and do things like pray and have access to certain things in order
to do whatever, we need to do. If this is America (the 501h State of America, Hawaii) I would
like to say, please uphold the United States Constitution, the First Amendment Freedom of
Religion and the Separation of Church and State. We're being charged as criminal trespassers
when we are the legal lineal descendants of our Kupuna who built these Heiaus and who prayed
over these special places. We get into trouble for trespassing because the system is designed in a
manner to keep people out and that right there says whoever the private property owner is
whether it's the State, County or anyone on that side of things. The law says we have the right to
access, so the gates and the fences are actually violating the law according to Hawaii Revised
Statute Section 7-1. Any fee simple parcel on or within allodia lands which we have the Royal
patent for. Wahiawa is an allodia land which is titled to our descendants forever. Any fee
simple parcel within all roadways and waterways are supposed to be cleared, so it's actually the
big yellow gates that's violating the law according to Section 7-1.
So, what we're dealing with is the illegal land holdings in Hawaii, the money and everything
else. The State and the County is trying to perpetuate whatever it needs to do to protect what it
created and that's what we're faced with. All we want to do is exercise our rights with aloha and
with love which is what we're doing. We may come off sometimes in certain ways, but it's
really hard not to be defensive when faced with a situation where there's no book on how to
exercise your rights so we have to go against the government because they are not giving us our
rights. We don't want to go against anybody or anything, we just want to be able to have access
without having to deal with police officers coming down and violating our rights and threatening
us with arrest. That's what you call terroristic threatening; we're praying and stuff down there,
then an officer comes down not really understanding our rights, and when I try to explain our
rights, the police officer would say, I don't know. I'm sorry. I'm just doing my job. That's the
sad part.
Vice Chair Hertog: I will allow you only a couple more minutes.
Mr. Gomes: Okay. We're just doing our job by standing up for our rights; it's simple as that.
We're not trying to claim that we are the king or anything like that. We are the lineal
descendants. We are all family and we are all God's children (every single one of us) and I see
God in every single one of you. I also wanted to give you guys a notice that talks about the laws,
International Laws through Title 18, Section 2441, and like I was explaining these are war
crimes and they are in the United States Constitution. We don't want to charge anyone with war
crimes because we feel it's simpler than that. If it comes down to meeting with you folks to try
to work something out where we have a mutual understanding on our rights on access point to
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where the Heiaus are. These are sacred sites that we have rights to. We can work with the
private land owners, the County or State or whomever it is for the access for the time being. We
are being drawn to these places its Mana. Mauna Kea can I serve this to you?
As far as that, there's some TMK numbers on there as well and like I said we're moving forward
with aloha. All we're doing is exercising our rights and we don't want to feel threatened. We
shouldn't feel threatened by law enforcement or anything like that. We just want to get on the
same page to ensure that all of us have a mutual understanding on our rights that is in the law.
State law and kingdom law is under our legal occupation and we're supposed to follow kingdom
law without the aid of a single statute. We have numerous codes and the Hawaii Revised
Statutes which in fact is a constitutional violation, so is the state law and county ordinance is in
direct contradiction with the United States Constitution. I know that I'm out of time, so thank
you Commissioners, and like I said, we're moving towards aloha.
The TMK numbers in there are the sacred sites that we have access to so we want to give you
guys notice. It lists all of the laws. I want to make sure that you guys understand that in every
law we have the right to access. Do you guys understand that?
Vice Chair Hertog: We got it. Thank you. Okay, next up is County Attorney Mauna Kea Trask.
Mr. Trask: Aloha, Vice Chair Hertog and members of the Police Commission. For the record,
Mauna Kea Trask, County Attorney. I've been ask by the Commission to discuss some of these
principles that have been mentioned by Mr. Gomes.
It's a matter of legal information regarding the current status of native Hawaiians as an
indigenous population. What they're rights and legal protection are under current state and
federal law as well as international law, as well as, what the County's appropriate role is, in all of
this. To be clear, this does not constitute as legal advice, it's only legal information. As a matter
of Hawaii state law, the Hawaiian people are recognized as the only Indigenous Aboriginal Mari
people of Hawaii. However, this political recognition is not extended to the native Hawaiian
people at the federal level. The legal situation regarding native Hawaiian sovereignty and self-
determination is very complex and while native Hawaiian people do enjoy a certain state and
constitutional rights as well as entitlements separate from the non-native population, but they
must as a political group nonetheless comply with all county, state and federal laws, like
everyone else.
In an effort to bring clarity to this issue, I'm going to discuss the following points that generally
comes under the purview of native Hawaiian sovereignty like, I previously stated in the
beginning. The County's position is that native Hawaiian people are separate and recognized
political group. They have separate rights and duties aside from the non-native Hawaiian
population and they should be approached with compassion and respect. The County Attorney's
Office have conducted trainings numerous times with the Kauai Police Department regarding
the following items. And these items are not up for argument. These items are established laws
both in the Hawaii State Courts, US federal Courts and complies with juris prudence that
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actually predates the State of Hawaii, the Territory of Hawaii and the Republic of Hawaii and
is actually a result of the Supreme Court of the Nation of Hawaii going back to the 1850's.
1) The native Hawaiian people have never relinquish their sovereignty and the indigenous
Hawaiian people never directly relinquish their claims to their inherit sovereignty as the people
or over their national lands of the United States; either through their monarchy or plebiscite or
referendum. (This is true)
This is pursuant to the Apology Law PLI03150 November 23, 1993 (this is a federal law) where
Congress apologized to native Hawaiians on behalf of the people of the United States for the
overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii on January 17, 1893 with the participation of agents and
citizens of the United States and the depravation of the rights of the native Hawaiians through
self-determination (PL103150).
2) The Apology Law is the basis for the claim of native Hawaiian sovereignty (This is not true).
The US Supreme Court in deciding Hawaii versus Office of Hawaiian Affairs 129 Supreme
Court 1436 2009. In 1993, Congress Joint Apology Resolution apologized on the United States
rule in the overthrow of the Hawaiian Monarchy and to be clear there is nothing in this resolution
(was quoted) intended to serve as a settlement of any claims against the United States.
Mr. Trask: To put it plainly in 1993, the United States said sorry for what they did because it
was not right, but did nothing thereafter.
3) The Kingdom/Nation of Hawaii still exists (this is not true).
According to Stably 6 Hawai`i 143 which the firm Nishitani, Debaker 82 Hawai`i 281 and State
Valarenzo 77 Hawai`i 219. And I quote, "whatever may be said regarding the lawfulness of the
provisional government that in 1893, the Republic of Hawaii 1894, the Territory of Hawaii in
1898 and the State of Hawaii February 9, 2002 is now a lawful government". So whether you
like it or not the State of Hawaii does exist. On a philosophical level, it's an inner subjective
reality like all political bodies, but as we all know, inner subjective realities are as real as
anything else.
4) Neither the Courts, the State of Hawaii or the US Government have jurisdiction over native
Hawaiians (This is false).
Both state and federal courts have stated that defendants and I quote, birth descendants of native
Hawaiians reject the concept that native Hawaiians are subject to the government and court
under the Hawaii State law.
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5) International Law prohibits lawful action against native Hawaiians (this falls under what is
known as war crimes and genocide arguments). This is false. International Law takes
precedence over state statutes, but in only limited situations. The general rules have been
established by the US Supreme Court in Skiriotes versus the State of Florida 313 US 69 (going
back to 1941). International Law is part of US law, and as such, is a law of all the states of the
union, so it is a part of our law for the application of its own principles (meaning international
principles) which concerns the international rights and duties and has nothing to do with
domestic rights and duties. The State of Hawaii has a legitimate interest in the conduct of
persons within its jurisdiction, and as such, the people's conduct is amendable to reasonable state
regulations regardless of any international law. And that's from State v. Marley 54 Hawai`i 450
1973.
6) The status of crown lands and other ceded lands as owned by other than the current title
holders.
The US Supreme Court established in Hawaii versus Office of Hawaiian Affairs,
that after the overthrow of the Hawaiian Monarchy in 1953 Congress annexed the territory of
Hawaii pursuant to the New Land Resolution under which Hawaii ceded United States, and I
quote "absolute fee and ownership of all public government and crown lands".
7) Native Hawaiians have rights to beyond private property.
The State reaffirms and shall protect all rights both customarily and traditionally that are being
exercised for subsistence cultural and religious purposes which belong to ahupuaa tenants who
are descendants of native Hawaiians who inhabited the Hawaiian Islands prior to 1778. Which is
subject to the right of the State to regulate such rights according to the Hawaii State Constitution
Article 12 Section 7. However, the court found in Pash versus the Hawaii County Planning
Commission that unreasonable or non-traditional uses of land by non -owner Hawaiians are not
permitted. The court found in State versus Hana'pi 89 Hawai`i 177 1998, that it is the obligation
of the person claiming the exercising of Hawaiian rights to demonstrate that the right is
constitutional protected. If the property is deemed fully developed (for example zoned land) and
used for residential purposes with existing dwellings, improvements in infrastructure, it has to be
always consistent to permit the practice of a traditional customary native Hawaiian rights on such
property. So, for any of you who own property that has a house on it (your typical residential
property) a native Hawaiian cannot go on to your property and claim traditional and customary
rights. So, the burden (again) is upon the defendant who is claiming these rights. Where the
defendant failed to produce sufficient evidence to support a claim of the exercise of a
constitutionally protected native Hawaiian rights and knowingly entered into a landowner's
property (which was fenced) in a manner to exclude other, the trial court properly concluded that
the defendant was unlawfully/improperly in violation of 708 8141 Criminal Trespass. Also
known as the Hana'pi defense.
Briefly, the Hana'pi defense allows the defendant in court to establish that his or her conduct is
constitutionally protected. The elements are as follows:
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1) The defendant must qualify as a native Hawaiian within the guidelines said in PASH (which is
essentially descended from inhabitant of the island prior to 1778).
2) The defendant must establish that the right is constitutional protected as a native Hawaiian
practice.
3) The defendant must prove that the exercising right occurred on undeveloped or less than fully
developed property and if satisfied, the court will apply a balancing test to determine whether the
defendant's assertion of native Hawaiian privilege will negate the conviction. It must be
determined whether the defendant's conduct was reasonable by balancing the states interests in
regulating the defendant's activity with the defendant's interest in conducting the traditional
customary practice. If the state process exists, then the defendant must avail him to the process.
That's State Armitage Supreme Court number 297794 2014. In this case, some members of, I
think it's the reinstated Hawaiian government, but it was Henry Noa's group what went to
Kaho`olawe without PKO or DLNR's permission and planted a flag and tried to establish their
nation upon that island. As we all know, there are plethora of unexploded ordinances on that
island and it's an extremely dangerous place to be. The court found amongst other things that
traditional customary rights do not include First Amendment Rights. Traditional customary
rights do not include establishing a native Hawaiian Kingdom and traditional and customary
rights do not allow you to go on an island containing bombs without getting permission first.
There is a process that exists and you need to avail yourself to that process.
In regard to the Royal patent argument, a Royal patent is not evidence of ownership; a Land
Commission award is evidence of ownership. There are cases that go back all the way to the
1850's, there is Bronsfeed Smith case. Essentially, what happen in that case is native Hawaiian
tenants submitted claims to the Land Commission under the Kuleana Act of 1850. But King
Kamehameha III (at that time) gave land grants to non -Hawaiians and those land grants
contained reservation language (which we are all familiar with) that are subjective to the rights
of native tenants. So, those people got their land grants which was later (although native
Hawaiians had already placed their claims with the Land Commission) adjudicated and granted
after King Kamehameha III gave patents to non -Hawaiians. Those non -Hawaiians (in the mid-
1900 century) attempted to eject the native Hawaiians from their property (kuleana's) because
the patents were pre -dated to the Land Commission's awards. However, the nation of Hawaii
Supreme Court stepped in and said that it was not pono and illegal and the reason why is by that
time (1850's) Kaui Ke'ole had already promulgated two very important documents one of which
was a Declaration of Human Rights in 1839, known as the Magna Carte of the Pacific whereas,
the King in his wisdom abdicated a degree of the royal power to a constitutional government. He
said certain rights are contained within the people ire -respected of the crown and these are your
basic rights to property, to freedom etc. Thereafter, in 1840, he promulgated the First
Constitution of the Nation of Hawaii and subsequent to that there was the Constitution of 1852,
1864, 1887 and 1892 followed by the overthrow in 1893. The nation of Hawaii Supreme Court
stated at that time given the Declaration of 1839 and 1840, the King in his patent grants to these
non -Hawaiians could not give any right beyond his authority which did not include subverting or
overriding those grants by the Land Commission.
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In other words, if you have a Royal patent grant with the King's signature on it, it's subject to the
law, it is not a free and clear gift from the crown; there are laws in the nation of Hawaii that
dates back to the 1835's.
In closing, the courts made it very clear and the County of Kauai encourages and works with the
Native Hawaiians in many ways, shapes and forms. The future of the Native Hawaiian issue is
what's called a political question, if you look at the juris prudence surrounding this issue, it is up
to Congress, Hawaii State Legislators and the Native Hawaiians to precede their rights in the
political arena. There is no res-pit in the district court, the circuit court or the Supreme Court via
the state or the feds because it's a political question. The courts will not force a county to make
laws or recognize anyone, which is unfortunate, but very clear. If there was any other way
believe me, I would not be working for the County of Kauai. Furthermore, international law is
not applicable within domestic proceedings and any reference to the International Criminal Court
or the International Court of Arbitration are venues for state entities against other state entities.
Also, the United States occupies a permanent seat on the Security Council and can single-
handedly veto any action of the United Nations. There was a case Lewis v. Larson (he believes
it's the Kingdom of Hawaii) where they attempted to sue themselves in the International Court
of Arbitration to establish that the Kingdom of Hawaii still existed, but because the United
States was not a party to the proceeding (and will never be a party to any proceeding) they are
not signatories to any of these treaties that subjects them to jurisdiction above and beyond their
own state borders. The court said there was nothing to rule on and dismissed the case.
Ms. Adams: I have question. Can you spell the word - I'm trying to translate the word hanapi?
It's between the defendant and the courts, correct?
Mr. Trask: Its spelled is Hana pi. Yes, it's between the defendant and the courts.
Ms. Adams: So bringing this complaint to us as a semi judicial ruling body- Is this the correct
place the complaint should be going to?
Mr. Trask: Yes, your jurisdiction is to look at the officers' actions to see if it was appropriate.
Ms. Adams: Yes.
Mr. Trask: The Hana pi defense is what's called an affirmative defense, it's like self-defense.
You can called into court because someone accuses you assault and you establish that they tried
to hit you first and you were defending yourself. Same thing with Hana pi, you go into someone
else's land, you can claim that defense but you have to as the defendant must affirmatively
establish it. It's not something the state has to disprove.
Ms. Adams: Okay.
Vice Chair Hertog: Are there any other questions for County Attorney Mauna Kea Trask?
Okay, thank you Mauna Kea. Is Mr. Ferreira here? He was the other individual who made a
statement. Alright, at this point in time, I would like to thank you very much and we appreciate
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your comments. Thank you Mauna Kea as well. We will consider the issue in Executive
Session. I do have a couple of questions, if I can. Mr. Gomes can you come up to the table?
Where exactly were you when you received this citation?
Mr. Gomes: We were in an area known as Camp 1 which is Wahiawa Bay. It's in between the
ahupua'a or the Ili "a velei`ele in the ahupua'a of Kalaheo. It's where Kauai Coffee is.
Vice Chair Hertog: Have you been there before cleaning up the beach and doing other things?
Mr. Gomes: Yes, and the trespassing charge was given because they said that all of the gates
were locked (and that's another issue). We have a deal worked out with the lessee for the quarry
which is right down there at the bay. He gave us the key to the gate because it's within our rights
within the law that we should have access so he feels that we should and he allows us to have
access. That's the thing we are not breaking or entering or anything like that and we are actually
on registered state historic site.
Vice Chair Hertog: Okay, you gain access with a key that you were given.
Mr. Gomes: Yes, then we drove down through the quarry, then we accesses down to the beach.
Vice Chair Hertog: Who gave you the key?
Mr. Gomes: The owner of the quarry down there.
Vice Chair Hertog: Okay.
Mr. Gomes: I wanted to confirm to what Mauna Kea said about the international law not be
applicable. It is applicable through United States law which is why I referenced the US Title 18,
Subsection 2441 which is war crimes that covers; that makes international law applicable to
states through the federal law. And also, Title 18, Subsection 1091 Acts of Genocide is basically
the simplest form of genocide by denying someone their rights and threatening them with arrest.
Like I said, we're doing this with aloha and we do have our rights. The State is actually illegal
as Mauna Kea said it was accepted into the union with a joint resolution. We all know on this
planet that we call earth and our home that you can't annex any other country on a joint
resolution, you need a Treaty of Annexation. So, that's the fraud and stuff that we talked about
which is what we are trying to go against. Respectfully.
Vice Chair Hertog: Okay, I'm going to have to cut you off right here. Thank you so much for
answering my questions.
Mr. Gomes: Thank you. Aloha.
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Vice Chair Hertog: Alright, at this time we will press on with the Open Session. We will
continue our discussion in Executive Session where we will have a chance to review the body
worn camera footage. Okay, next is the Recap of the Police Commission's conference. I'll ask
Commissioner Mince to do that very quickly.
Mr. Mince: Thank you Chair.
Mr. Trask: Pardon me. I'm sorry, but I have about 20 minutes before I have to leave.
Vice Chair Hertog: Do you want us to go into Executive Session?
Mr. Trask: Yes.
Vice Chair Hertog: Okay, but before I do that let me read the Executive Session, then we'll go
into it. I'm just going to abbreviate this particular complaint.
ES KPC 2018-018
Pursuant to Hawaii Revised Statutes 02-4, 02-5 (a) (2) and (4), the purpose of this
Executive Session is for the Commission to review and discuss charges brought a ag inst
an officer or employee of the County, where consideration of matters affecting privacy
will be involved, provided that if the individual concerned requests an open meeting, an
open meeting shall be held; and to consult with its attorney on issues pertaining to the
Commission's and the County's powers, duties, privileges, immunities, and or liabilities
as they may relate to the following agenda item.
New Formal Notarized Complaint No. KPC 2018-008 filed against an officer in the
Kauai Police Department.
Vice Chair Hertog: The complainant alleges cultural genocide. Can I get a motion to take us into
Executive Session?
Ms. Adams: So moved.
Mr. Morita: Second.
Vice Chair Hertog: All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Nays. Hearing none. The
motion carries 5:0.
At 9:40 p.m. the Commissioners entered into Executive Session.
At 10:05 a.m. the Commissioners reconvened to Open Session.
Chair Vice Hertog: I'm going to cite the following Hawaii Revised Statutes to take us back into
Executive Session.
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ES KPC 2018-019
Pursuant to Hawaii Revised Statutes 02-4, 02-5 (a) (2) and (4) the purpose of the
Executive Session is for the Commission to consider the hire, evaluation, dismissal, or
discipline of an officer or employee, where consideration of matters affecting._ privacy
will be involved, provided that if the individual concerned requests an open meeting, an
open meeting shall be held; and to consult with its attorney on issues pertaining to the
Commission's and the County's powers, duties, privileges, immunities, and or liabilities
as they may relate to procedural issues in the Kauai Police Department.
Vice Chair Hertoa: I need a motion to return back into Executive Session.
Mr. Mince: So moved.
Ms. Adams: Second.
Vice Chair Hertog: All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Nays. Hearing none. The
motion carries 5:0.
At 10:06 a.m. the Commissioners reconvened in Executive Session.
At 10:25 a.m. the Commissioners reconvened in Open Session.
Vice Chair Hertog: Alright, we are back in Open Session, but before we get to the Chiefs
Monthly Reports and the approval the minutes, I would like a real quick recap of the
Commissioners conference that was held on the Hawaii Island earlier in the week.
Commissioner Mince if you would do the honors, please.
RECAP OF THE POLICE COMMISSIONERS' STATE CONFERENCE THAT WAS
RECENTLY HELD ON HAWAII ISLAND FROM MAY 21-22.2018.
Mr. Mince: Yes, thank you Chair. We attended the conference in Kona and it was well attended
by the other islands and they had some pretty good speakers. I think, the highlight speaker was
the new DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency) Supervising Agent from Honolulu, who gave us a
really positive update on what they're doing on the opioid crisis. He said look for some amazing
things to happen in the next couple months here in the islands. Several of the other presentations
dealt with training sessions as far as, the Commission's Accreditation for Law Enforcement
Agencies (CALEA) and Recruitment. But the highlight (at least for me) was the roundtable
discussion with the other Commissions. It was real obvious (to me anyway) that we are ahead of
the other Commissions as far as what we do; the things we asked and the actions we've taken.
A lot of them are struggling internally in terms of what their powers are and what they can and
cannot do. The end result of that was the other Commissions are now looking at us saying for
direction. We kind of emulated that.
Vice Chair Hertog: I have to say, the Kauai Police Department is ahead of the other
Departments areas such as the body worn cameras, dropping the recruitment age to 20 1/2 and
other initiatives KPD has taken like utilizing drones. So kudos to KPD on doing that.
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APPROVAL OF THE OPEN SESSION MEETING MINUTES OF APRIL 27, 2018
Vice Chair Hertog: Okay, we've looked at the meeting minutes. Does anyone have changes to
the minutes? If not, could I get a motion to approve the minutes?
Ms. Adams: So moved.
Mr. Morita: Second.
Vice Chair Hertog: All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Nays. Hearing none. The
motion carries 5:0. Deputy Chief Contrades over to you on the Monthly Reports, please.
Chief s Monthly Reports, Pertinent Updates and Announcements
1. Administrative and Technical Bureau Reports
2. Year Report as of April 30, 2018
3. Investigative Services Bureau
4. Calls for Service and Incident
Deputy Chief Contrades: Good morning, Vice Chair and members of the Commission. I just
wanted to reiterate how well yesterday's graduation went and kudos to our staff for doing such
an awesome job. I thought it was a little different having the Taiko Drummers perform (which
was a last minute addition) but it was pretty cool. I also want to thank Acting Assistant Chief
Mark Ozaki and his training cadre for putting out such a great recruit class and we look forward
to seeing more goods things from them in the future.
For the Commissioners who attended yesterday's graduation, thank you so much for being there;
it's very much appreciated. As far as recruitment goes, we have five new recruits starting on
June 1 st. They will be receiving two weeks of training and another two weeks of field training in
cellblock which will help a great deal in terms of personnel shortages and reducing overtime.
So while that's happening, we have another five recruits that are currently going through
background checks. They already went through their initial pre -psychological test and are now,
heading to full background checks so (in total) we will have ten new recruits.
For your information, on May 20th three candidates passed their physical readiness standard test
and we have one (potential) candidate from the Honolulu Police Department who wants to
transfer so in total (knock -on -wood) we'll have 14 candidates. The next written exam is
scheduled for June 4, 2018 and as of right now, we have 30 applicants who signed up, but that
doesn't mean all 30 will show. But according to our staff the numbers (as of right now) are
higher compared to the six or seven applicants we use to have in the past. Finally, we will be
conducting monthly testing and hopefully the next class will start in September.
Vice Chair Hertog: Thank you. Are there any questions for the Deputy Chief concerning the
various bureau reports? Hearing none. We will press on. The next item is KPC 2018-04, but I
think we're going to have to wait until Mr. Trask gets back to address that. He was going to talk
to us about whether or not we can legally form a PIG (Permitted Interaction Group) for recruiting
purposes. Okay, the next item is KPC 2018-06.
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KPC 201 R-06
Discussion and possible decision -making on revising the Kauai Police Commission
Rules on Administrative Practice and Procedure to reflect the Intermediate Court of
Appeals decision of June 2016 regarding the discipline of the chief of police, commission
oversight and supervision of the chief and KPC 2018-08 Discussion on formalizing the
Police Commission's agenda. On -going
Vice Chair Hertog: Commission Mince, I would ask you to take care of this since you met with
Mauna Kea yesterday.
Mr. Mince: This is a follow-up to the item that I introduced at the last meeting about including
information on what we can and cannot do (relative to the court decision) into our rules.
Originally, I was going to develop the language and sent it to all of you and have you comment
on it, but we changed that so Mauna Kea could comment on it first.
I met with him yesterday and he is in favor of some of the things I recommended as far as having
the information in the beginning of the rules so any new commissioner or any civilian could pick
up a copy of our rules; read the introduction and have a good understanding of what we can and
cannot do, what powers we have and what powers we don't have. We had some disagreements,
but we are working our way through it. The two big things that was brought up was how we are
going to handle personnel complaints, but we have to wait until Mauna Kea gets back to us to
see if we are going handle all complaints and not KPD, and if that's the case, then we are going
to have to work with KPD on a process. So, there was no sense for me to send it to you if it's all
going to change anyway. Then our conversation got into what things we can and cannot
supervise the Chief on. There are things we have to work out in terms of what we are entitled to
by the Charter and what we are not entitled to by Charter. So (again) we're working our way
through that. Mauna Kea invited several of us to meet with him (again) to try to find tune those
things I just talked about so once that happens we can have a roundtable discussion on it.
Vice Chair Hertog: Okay, so we'll carry this as an on -going item for the next meeting.
Mr. Mince: Chair, if I might, the next item dovetails on that.
Vice Chair Hertog: Right. Discussion on formalizing the Police Commission agenda.
KPC 2018-06
Discussion on formalizing the Police Commission agendas.
Mr. Mince: Yes. One of the things, I recommended the last time was that we have some type of
a formalized agenda and include that in our rules much like the Planning Department does. This
was part of what I showed Mauna Kea yesterday, he was okay with most of it. Everything new
is in blue and I included how we as Commissioners can get items placed on the agenda in open
and an executive session. He was okay with most of it, but he had couple concerns that had to do
with executive session stuff like not having specific names or issues to tag on to those. So
(again) we're working our way through that.
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He didn't particularly like the term "old business" he wanted to use the term new business. So
those are some of the minor things that we can change. Anyway, if anybody has some things
they want to change regarding this part of the new rules, please let me know.
Vice Chair Hertog: Okay. So if any of you have any feedback, please give it to Mercedes.
Mr. Mince: That's it Chair.
Vice Chair Hertog: Alright. So that will be on -going as well Mercedes. The next item is KPC
2018-10.
KPC 2018-10
Brief discussion on the Chief s Evaluation Process for the period of October 2017 to June
2018.
Vice Chair Hertog: As you remember, a couple of meeting ago, we agreed to realign the Chiefs
reporting period to the County's fiscal calendar year so what we are going to do is, give him a
six-month evaluation for this period in time and we are going to use the long form, which we
agreed to do last month. I think, Mercedes send the form out to everybody yesterday.
Commissioner Jardin, I know that you won't be able to do an evaluation because this is just your
second month with us. There may be some areas where we cannot evaluate the Chief because
he's been out, but I would ask that you start working on the evaluation forms because it's due on
June 30, 2018 and we would want to be able to give it to the Chief. Any questions or comments?
Mr. Mince: Point and I mentioned this to Mercedes that the word document she sent us (this
actual form itself) actually contains the long form and the short form. There was some confusion
the last time we did this where some people did both. So to clarify, use the long form; you don't
have to do the short form which is a six-month evaluation.
Vice Chair Hertog: Also, if you feel that you cannot evaluate for any period of time just state so
on the form. Alright, the next item is KPC 2018-11.
KPC 2018-11
Public announcement for notarized complaints no. KPC 2018-003 and KPC 2018-005.
Vice Chair Hertog: In the back of your packet there are two letters signed by Chair Bahouth and
I'll just read them quickly, then we'll accept them.
Public announcement for KPC 2018-003
After a diligent inquiry by the Commission, in which the Commissioners reviewed all available
materials, the Kauai Police Commission determined that although the incident upon which the
charge is based did occur there was insufficient evidence to support the allegations All parties
have been properly notified of the Commission's final disposition. This officially concludes the
Commission's review of notarized complaint KPC 2018-003.
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Public announcement for KPC 2018-005
After a diligent inquiry by the Commission, in which the Commissioners reviewed the
complaint, the Kauai Police Commission determined that the complaint was written by a third -
party therefore could not consider the complaint. This officially concludes the Commission's
review of notarized complaint KPC 2018-005.
Vice Chair Hertog: Can I get a motion, please to accept these two announcements?
Mr. Mince: So moved.
Mr. Morita: Second.
Vice Chair Hertog: All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Nays. Hearing none. The
motion carries 6:0. Alright, moving on to the announcements.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Next regular monthly meeting - Friday, June 22, 2018, 9:00 a.m. at the Mo'ikeha
Building, Meeting Room 2A/213. Executive Session to follow.
Vice Chair Hertog: Alright, I already read a portion of the Executive Session portion so, I'm
going to read it real fast, and then I will take a motion to go into Executive Session. Pursuant to
Hawaii Revised Statutes §92-4, §92-5 (a) (2) and (4), we are going to discuss the following
agenda items.
ES KPC 2018-001
Monthly Ljpdate by Office of Professional Standards Lieutenant James Miller on the
status of the Department's disposition on all formal notarized complaints that were filed
with the Kauai Police Department, including the complaints that were filed with the
Police Commission and referred to the Office of the Chief for further review.
ES KPC 2018-002
Monthly update by Chief Darr ley or his designated representative on any significant
adverse incidents/events involvingpersonnelin the Kauai Police Department that could
potentially impact the County, the Police Commission and the Kauai Police Department.
ES KPC 2018-012
Pursuant to Hawaii Revised Statutes §92-4 and §92-5 (a) and (4), the purpose of this
Executive Session is for the County Attorney to provide an update on the Department's
handling of public complaints and an update on the Police Union stance on an officer
versus officer complaint and to consult with its attorney as to its powers, duties,
privileges, immunities and or liabilities as they relate to this agenda item.
(Deferred on April 27, 2018)
Vice Chair Hertog: Although this item was deferred on April 27, 2018, we're going to have to
defer this item again for next month because Mr. Trask is not ready to talk to us about this one,
so scratch this one off. Mercedes we are going to defer this item to the June 22, 2018 meeting.
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Ms. Omo: Okay.
Vice Chair Hertog: We've covered item ES KPC 2018-013, so next up is items ES KPC 2018-
015 and ES KPC 2018-016.
ES KPC 2018-015
New Formal Notarized Complaint No. KPC 2018-006 filed against an officer in the
Kauai Police Department. The complainant alleges misconduct in the investigation of
an unattended death. (Deferred on April 27, 2018)
ES KPC 2018-016
New Formal Notarized Complaint No. KPC 2018-007 filed against an officer in the
Kauai Police Department. The complainant alleges that she and members of her family
were forced to leave their family owned property without a signed warrant and was
threatened by the officer that they would be arrested if they return to the property.
(Deferred on April 27, 2018)
Vice Chair Hertog: We already handled items ES KPC 2018-018 and ES KPC 2018-019, so the
last two items are as follows.
ES KPC 2018-020
Pursuant to Hawaii Revised Statutes 02-4, 02-5 (a) (2) and (4) the purpose of this
Executive Session is for the Commission to consider the hire, evaluation, dismissal, or
discipline of an officer or employee, where consideration of matters affecting privacy
will be involved, provided that if the individual concerned requests an open meeting, an
open meeting shall be held; and to consult with its attorney on issues pertaining to the
Commission's and the Count'spowers, duties, privileges, immunities, and liabilities as
they may relate to the supervision of the Chief of Police.
Vice Chair Hertog: Translation for this item is how we are supposed to supervise the Chief
when we don't have access to all of the information that we feel, we need. Okay, next item is ES
KPC 2018-021.
ES KPC 2018-021
Pursuant to Hawaii Revised Statutes §92-4, §92-5 (a) ((4), §92-9 (a) (1-4) and b , the
purpose of this Executive Session is for the Commission to approve the Executive
Session meeting minutes of April 27, 2018, and to consult with its attorney on issues
pertaining to the Commission's powers, duties, privileges, immunities, and or liabilities
as they may relate to this agenda item.
Vice Chair Hertog: Can I get a motion to go back into Executive Session?
Ms. Adams: So moved.
Mr. Mince: Second.
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Vice Chair Hertog: All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Nays. Hearing none. The
motion carries 5:0.
At 10:37 a.m. The Commissioners entered into Executive Session.
At 11:50 a.m. The Commissioners reconvened in Open Session.
Vice Chair Hertog: Mauna Kea, we have one last item to discuss.
KPC 2018-04
Discussion and possible decision -making on whether or not the Commission should form
a Permitted Interaction Group to get a better understanding on how the recruitment
process in the Kauai Police Department works and report its findings to the
Commissioners at their next regularly scheduled monthly meeting
(Deferred on April 27, 2018.)
Vice Chair Hertog: Before we had to go into Executive Session there was one item that we
needed to discuss and that was item KPC 2018-04. It's a discussion on whether we are within
our rights to ask for a PIG (Permitted Interaction Group) to look at the recruiting process in
KPD.
Mr. Trask: You know, when I saw that agenda item to me the recruiting process is clearly an
administrative matter. I don't see how you would have anything to do with the hiring. You can
ask for reports about it from the Chief relative to how he does it but you cannot review, evaluate
or prove that in any way, shape or form. Beyond that I'm not sure what -
Vice Chair Hertog: Okay, then our alternative is, if we think, we have some ideas on what we
would like them to look at perhaps enhancing their recruiting process, would it be appropriate for
Chair Bahouth to sign a letter over to the Chief to say Chief, we recommend that you look at this
and leave it as that?
Mr. Trask: Sure, it's non -binding and it's not mandatory.
Vice Chair Hertog: Alright, that's what we wanted from you a decision on that. Are there any
other discussion on that? If not, we can do the letter.
Mr. Trask: Just for clarification, in that communication, I think it would be well advised to make
clear that it's not an order but a polite way -
Vice Chair Hertog: Right. Here are some things that we thought of and we recommend that you
take a look at it; that kind of thing.
Mr. Trask: Right, I don't want the Department to feel -
Vice Chair Hertog: Obligated.
Mr. Trask: Yes, thank you.
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Vice Chair Hertog: Okay. Next is the ratification.
RATIFY THE ACTIONS TAKEN IN EXECTUIVE SESSION
Vice Chair Hertog: Can I get a motion to ratify the actions taken in Executive Session?
Ms. Adams: So moved.
Mr. Morita: Second.
Vice Chair Hertog: All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. The motion carries
unanimously by a voice vote of 4:0.
ADJOURNMENT
Vice Chair Hertog: Can I get a motion to adjourn?
Ms. Adams: So moved.
Mr. Morita: Second.
Vice Chair Hertog: All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. The motion carries
unanimously by a voice vote of 4:0.
At 11:52 a.m. the meeting adjourned.
Submitted by:
Mercedes Omo
Commission Support Clerk
(x) Approved as circulated on: June 22, 2018
( ) Approved as amended. See minutes of meeting.
Approved on:
Mary K. Hertog
Vice Chair Kauai Police Commission
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