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Minutes of Meeting
OPEN SESSION
Approved as amended 1/22/18
Board/Commission:
CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION
Meeting Date
December 18, 2017
Location
Mo'ikeha Building, Liquor Control Conference Room 3
Start of Meeting: 4:01 p.m.
End of Meeting: 6:03 p.m.
Present
Chair Jan TenBruggencate; Vice Chair Ricky Watanabe; Members: Virginia Kapali, Carol Suzawa, Galen Nakamura (entered at 4: 08
p.m.), and Marissa Sandblom
Also: Deputy County Attorney Adam Roversi; Boards & Commissions Office Staff. Administrative Specialist Lani Agoot,
Administrator Paula M. Morikami
Excused
Isaac Cockett
Absent
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Prior to the start of the meeting, Administrative Assistant to the County
Clerk Eddie Topenio gave the Oath of Office to new Commissioner Marissa
Sandblom.
Call To Order
Mr. TenBruggencate called the meeting to order
at 4:01 p.m. with 5 Commissioners present.
Communications
Chair TenBruggencate stated that the Commission received documents from
the Director of Planning, the Office of Economic Development, and Felicia
Cowden, and asked for a motion to receive the items for the record.
Ms. Kapali moved to receive the items for the
record. Ms. Suzawa seconded the motion.
Motion carried 5:0.
Approval of
Meeting Minutes of November 27, 2017
Ms. Kapali moved to approve the minutes as
Minutes
circulated. Ms. Suzawa seconded the motion.
Motion carried 5:0.
Business
Chair TenBruggencate stated that he would take the agenda item related to
creating a new Farm Commission first to accommodate guests that were
invited to speak on the agenda item.
CRC 2017-11 Proposed Charter Amendment creating a new Farm
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Commission (deferred 111271171
Chair TenBruggencate welcomed newly appointed Commissioner Marissa
Sandblom who was sworn in prior to the start of the meeting. He then
asked Felicia Cowden to speak on her proposed Charter Amendment.
Ms. Cowden explained that she proposed the Charter Amendment to create
a new Farm Commission because she felt the County wasn't easily able to
handle farming related issues; specifically farm worker housing. She said a
Farm Commission could handle issues, such as smaller farmers needing
help, and large farm operations in relation to pesticide use.
Mr. Watanabe asked Ms. Cowden if there was a commission established
under the Department of Agriculture to which Ms. Cowden said that the
Mayor's Office had an Agricultural Committee, and the State Department of
Agriculture had a similar organization.
Commissioner Galen Nakamura entered the meeting at 4:08 p.m.
Chair TenBruggencate asked the Office of Economic Development (OED)
Director George Costa to speak on the agenda item.
Mr. Costa referenced two (2) documents he provided to the Commission (on
file); a list of the various organizations OED worked with to promote and
support agriculture, and a summary of grants processed over the past ten
(10) years to help diversify the island's economy. Mr. Costa said the
Mayor's Kauai Agricultural Advisory Committee (KAAC) reviewed
agricultural issues and challenges, offering support to the Mayor and
organizations such as the Hawaii Farmers Union United and the Kauai
Farm Bureau. He said at the Committee's last meeting they had a robust
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discussion regarding farm worker housing and a majority of the Committee
supported farm worker housing; however, the Committee needed more
details in order to fully support it one way or the other.
Ms. Kapali asked how often the Committee met and when it was established
to which Mr. Costa said he thought the Committee was established during
Mayor Kusaka's administration, and they meet once a month. Ms. Kapali
asked if OED provided clerical support for the Committee, and what
happened to the results of the Committee's discussions. Mr. Costa
confirmed that OED staffed the Committee, and that the results of the
Committee's discussions were forwarded to the Mayor to see if the County
could offer support with regard to land use or anything related to
agriculture.
Chair TenBruggencate asked Mr. Costa if OED had plans to fill the vacancy
left by the previous agricultural specialist Bill Spitz to which Mr. Costa said
the Mayor was leaning towards leaving that up to the next administration.
With no further discussion, Chair TenBruggencate called for public
testimony.
Mr. Ken Taylor stated that he was opposed to a Charter Amendment
creating a new Farm Commission, and that OED was doing a good job
covering agricultural activities. He said he didn't see a reason for the
Commission or the cost it would incur.
Hawaii Farmers Union United (HFUU) Kauai Chapter President Ray Maki
stated that the HFUU was an organization of family farmers on Kauai, and
across the state, primarily focused on the needs of the family farmers using
commercial organic methodologies. He said the HFUU had questions
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regarding the scope of activities and the powers of the proposed Farm
Commission. As a member of the KAAC, he said the members' primary
concern was the inaetion enaction of a farm worker housing ordinance that
actually worked, and was supported by the County and the Planning
Commission, to allow farmers to live on their agricultural land in temporary
housing facilities to facilitate their farming operations. He added that if
there was an application for farm worker housing submitted to the County,
the KAAC would like the opportunity provide input and support.
Chair TenBruggencate asked if the KAAC had taken a position on farm
worker housing to which Mr. Maki said there had been discussions,
however, no official position on the matter.
Chair TenBruggencate asked if the KAAC would lobby the County Council
for legislation in support of farm worker housing. Mr. Costa provided that
Committee members were encouraged to lobby once there was a consensus
from the group. Chair TenBruggencate asked Mr. Costa if he would speak
on behalf of the Committee once they took a position to which Mr. Costa
said yes.
Ms. Sandblom stated that one component the proposed Farm Commission
envisioned providing guidance on was farm worker housing and another
component was related to appropriate farming methods. She asked Mr.
Maki if KAAC had considered that issue to which Mr. Maki said he
personally didn't think Committee members would want a committee or
commission judging the appropriateness of farming styles, and that State
and County laws were enough to guide and regulate farming activities.
Kauai County Farm Bureau (KCFB) President Johnny Gordines stated that
KCFB had over three hundred (300) members and could speak for the
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farmers of Kauai that they didn't need another regulatory agency to define
and dictate how they fed the people of Kauai, and that there were
organizations already in place locally, federally, and statewide that regulated
farming. He said what was needed was more farmers and an agricultural
specialist to work with on agricultural issues. Mr. Gordines stated that he
was a member of the KAAC and they supported farm worker housing. The
Committee had spoken with Councilmember Mason Chock and Deputy
Planning Director KiaKa'aina Hull regarding farm worker housing and
the process was moving forward.
Ms. Kapali asked Mr. Gordines if filling the agricultural specialist position
in OED would provide farmers the assistance in navigating various
organizations to which Mr. Gordines replied yes, famers needed a resource
at the County level.
Mr. Hull stated that Planning Director Michael Dahilig provided the
Commission with a letter regarding the Planning Department's official
statement. He said the proposed amendment to create a Farm Commission
was nebulous and the purpose was unclear. Mr. Hull briefed the
Commission on the history of what led to the farm worker housing
ordinance being drafted several years ago. He said the ordinance had
requirements that had to be met; the land had to be in agricultural
dedication, there had to be a farm plan, and the farm operation was required
to gross thirty-five thousand (35,000) dollars annually. He added that for
the most part, start-up farmers couldn't fulfill the financial requirement
unless they lived on the land. Mr. Hull said there were issues with the farm
worker housing ordinance and it needed to be amended. The Planning
Department's analysis of agricultural lands was that the single greatest thing
for some farmers was the ability to have a farm dwelling; however, the
worst thing for agricultural lands on Kauai was having farm dwellings on
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agricultural lands because it turned into a speculative issue. Mr. Hull said
the County needed to be very thorough and vigilant to ensure that farm
worker housing on agricultural lands didn't become speculative as did farm
dwellings on agricultural lands.
Housing Director Kanani Fu stated the Housing Department's limited
involvement was with regard to infrastructure.
Ms. Cowden stated that creating a Farm Commission wasn't to tell people
how to farm but to support small farmers. It was the result of being told that
adopting the farm worker housing ordinance was not a viable option
because it was too hard to regulate. She said the Farm Commission was a
way to help smaller farms, and regulate farm worker housing operations.
With no further testimony, Chair TenBruggencate asked the Commission
Mr. Watanabe moved to receive CRC 2017-11
how they wanted to proceed.
for the record. Ms. Sandblom seconded the
motion. Motion carried 6:0.
CRC 2017-05 Proposed Charter Amendment to remove the Zoningoard
of Appeals Article XIV, Subsection 14.12 - 14.14 (deferred 10123117,
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Chair TenBruggencate noted that the Commission was in receipt of a letter
from Planning Director Michael Dahilig regarding the Zoning Board of
Appeals, and suggested the item be deferred to the next meeting.
Mr. Watanabe moved to defer CRC 2017-05 to
the next meeting. Mr. Nakamura seconded the
motion. Motion carried 6:0.
CRC 2017-06 Proposed Charter Amendment to Amend Article XIII
relating to the Department of Public Works, Sections 13.01 - 13.03 by
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changing title from County Engineer to Director of Public Works, and
changing job description to reflect title change (deferred 10123117,
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Human Resources Director Janine Rapozo stated that the Administration
wished to withdraw the proposed amendment.
Mr. Watanabe moved to receive CRC 2017-06 for
the record. Ms. Kapali seconded the motion.
Chair TenBruggencate called for public testimony.
Mr. Taylor stated that he was opposed to changing the title and job
description of the County Engineer, and that he didn't believe the County
did a good job recruiting for the position.
Motion carried 6:0.
CRC 2017-08 Proposed Charter Amendment to Amend Article XIX,
Financial Procedures, Section 19.15(C)by adding language to include
corresponding maintenance of those lands or property entitlements (deferred
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Mr. Hull stated that the proposal before the Commission was two -fold;
possible acquisitions and the potential maintenance for them, as well as the
improvements of existing accesses and to demarcate them for public
utilization. He said the Open Space Fund had been in effect over a decade
and had accumulated approximately six (6) million dollars by putting .5% of
the property tax revenue into the fund annually to be used solely for the
purpose of land acquisition. To date, only one (1) acquisition had been
completed using the Open Space Fund. He said what had happened in the
past in a handful of scenarios when there was the possibility for land
acquisition was the question of how the land would be maintained came up.
Often times either Public Works or Parks and Recreation were approached
to see if they had the ability to provide maintenance; however, in many
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scenarios, the lands were outside of their jurisdiction. Mr. Hull said in
many situations land acquisition couldn't be pursued because at the end of
the day, the property could end up sitting derelict and never be used for its
intended purpose, such as public access or recreation. He said one of the
hot -button political issues in the community was the closure of public
accesses to public resources. In addition to the maintenance of acquisitions,
there was a desire to use some of the Open Space funds to improve existing
public access of which there are hundreds island wide that existed only on
paper because they were not demarcated. Mr. Hull stated that should the
Charter Amendment be adopted, it would not mean that every acquisition
would require maintenance. In several instances, the County had been able
to negotiate stewardship agreements with community organizations to
provide maintenance for certain areas. He said currently the Open Space
Commission was progressing with a couple of potential acquisitions and
didn't want the issue of maintenance or improvement to existing accesses to
foreclose the discussion.
Ms. Sandblom asked Mr. Hull if entitlements and improvements were the
same thing to which he clarified that entitlements included permitting fees,
as well as the cost of the improvements. Ms. Sandblom asked for details on
the Open Space Fund's one (1) acquisition in terms of acreage and location
to which Mr. Hull provided that it was a portion of Black Pot Beach Park
for the purpose of expansion through the Park's Master Plan.
Mr. Watanabe asked whether or not the Open Space Fund was in the budget
to which Mr. Hull provided that it was part of the budget process. Mr.
Watanabe asked if maintenance included staff salaries to which Mr. Hull
said the Planning Department didn't anticipate needing staff because of the
small number of acquisitions that would need maintenance. He added that
he hoped in the future the Open Space program would be robust enough to
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warrant needing staff to which Mr. Watanabe suggested clearing up the
language now rather than waiting for that to occur.
Mr. Nakamura said the proposed language referenced lands that had been
acquired, "The monies in this fund shall be utilized for the purchasing or
otherwise acquiring lands or property entitlements -and the corresponding
maintenance of those lands or property entitlements", and suggested adding
"or existing public access or open space. " Mr. Hull said the Planning
Department would be amenable to the modified language, adding that the
Department would also take measures to ensure that exactions for accesses
were processed through subdivision and the Planning Commission.
Chair TenBruggencate asked Mr. Hull if he was willing to meet with the
Planning Department staff and the Administration and draft amendments to
the language to which Mr. Hull said yes. Mr. Hull requested the item be
deferred because the Open Space Commission had not reviewed the
proposed language due to issues with quorum. He said the Department
wanted to get the proposed amendment to the Charter Review Commission
for their review, and stated that the Department was in no way trying to
circumvent the Open Space Commission.
Ms. Suzawa inquired how long it took to accumulate six (6) million dollars
in the Open Space Fund to which Mr. Hull said he would have to check
when the Black Pot Beach Park expenditure was made. He provided that
the fund was accumulating approximately four hundred (400) to five
hundred (500) thousand dollars a year.
Ms. Suzawa stated that her concern was that maintenance costs could hinder
the ability to acquire land and asked if there was language related to keeping
a fund balance. Mr. Hull explained that the expenditures of the fund had to
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go through the public budget process every year at the County Council
which allowed for prioritization of the monies.
Ms. Kapali asked if a cap would be put on the amount used for maintenance
and improvements to which Mr. Hull said the Department would be
amendable to a cap; currently there was a 5% cap for administrative
purposes. Chair TenBruggencate urged the Commission not to tie the hands
of the Open Space Commission and let them make those decisions.
Ms. Cowden stated that she had attended many Open Space Commission
meetings and agreed that there were times when properties couldn't be
acquired because of maintenance. She said she wanted to see an agreed
upon ceiling of maybe 25% of the funds that could be used for maintenance
to avoid half of the fund, or more, being used for maintenance on past
projects.
With no further discussion, Chair TenBruggencate asked for a motion to
Mr. Watanabe moved to defer CRC 2017-08. Mr.
defer the item.
Nakamura seconded the motion. Motion carried
6:0.
CRC 2017-10 Proposed Charter Amendment to Article III, County Council,
Section 3.03 relating to terms (deferred 11127117)
Four 4) Councilmembers serve two (2) four-year terms full time
(staggered), and three (3) Councilmembers serve two (2) two-year terms
part time
Chair TenBruggencate called for public testimony.
Mr. Lenny Rapozo stated that he was opposed to term limits and districting
for the island of Kauai; limiting terms took away his right to choose. He
said he didn't believe the rhetoric regarding uninformed voters because
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history had proven, through the removal of former Mayor Tony Kunimura
and former Governor Neil Abercrombie, that the people of Kauai were
informed voters. Chair TenBruggencate asked Mr. Rapozo if he thought
there should be two-year or four-year terms to which Mr. Rapozo said two—
year terms.
Mr. Taylor stated that he was opposed to the proposed amendment as it was
written, however, would support two (2) four-year terms and four (4) three
(3) staggered. He said there were municipalities around the country larger
than Kauai that had five -member councils, and suggested that Kauai look
at that as an option. Mr. Taylor said having seven (7) councilmembers
elected at the same time created problems because there could be as many as
twenty-two (22) people at a forum and nobody would have time to articulate
their position.
Ms. Cowden stated that what was important to her in her proposal was that
four (4) councilmembers were full-time, with full-time pay, and that it was
their only job because it would provide stability in the County Council.
Mr. Watanabe stated that he didn't agree with Ms. Cowden and asked if the
Commission could defer to the County Attorney whether or not it was
unconstitutional to tell someone they could only have one (1) job.
Chair TenBruggencate said he had a fundamental difference of opinion
because throughout the country, citizens elected legislators who lived and
worked in their community, and served part-time in government, and there
was great value in that. He added that he didn't think the County's
legislative body should be a profession.
Ms. Sandblom asked Ms. Cowden whether or not, regardless of the term
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limit, councilmembers would serve the same amount of hours to which Ms.
Cowden clarified that four (4) councilmembers would be full-time and three
(3) would be part-time. Ms. Sandblom asked if that meant the four (4) full-
time councilmembers would work forty -hour weeks to which Ms. Cowden
said yes; the goal was to have them work and be paid as a full-time position.
Mr. Watanabe said one of his concerns was there had been ten (10) different
scenarios proposed for council terms since 1972 that passed, and the cost of
putting proposals on the ballot added up. Additionally, the Employee
Retirement System (ERS) had to make a decision as well because at one
point councilmembers were considered part-time; they were now full-time
and received benefits. Mr. Nakamura asked Mr. Watanabe if all
councilmembers, with the exception of the Chair, were paid the same to
which Mr. Watanabe said yes.
Chair TenBruggencate asked Mr. Watanabe if he wanted to refer the item to
the County Attorney for an opinion to which Mr. Watanabe said yes.
Mr. Watanabe moved to refer CRC 2017-10 to the
Mr. Nakamura asked for clarification of the legal questions to which Mr.
County Attorney for an opinion.
Watanabe said his first question was whether or not the ERS considered
councilmembers full-time upon retirement and would have a problem
staggering that requirement; and, could an employed councilmember be told
he/she could only have one (1) job.
Chair TenBruggencate stated that, with regard to the staggering of full-time
councilmembers, the ERS would have to consider making some of the
current councilmembers part-time.
Ms. Suzawa commented that she would have a difficult time determining
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who was running for four-year terms and who was running for two-year
terms, and asked if that would be an issue. Ms. Cowden clarified that
people could run for both terms.
Chair TenBruggencate stated that there was a motion on the floor to defer,
adding that should the motion die for lack of a second, the Commission had
the following options: accept the proposal as written, amend the proposal,
or receive the proposal. Chair TenBruggencate asked for a second on the
motion to defer. The motion failed due to the lack of a second.
Ms. Suzawa stated that she had a problem with the word "defer" and asked
if a motion to "refer" to the County Attorney was a new motion to which
Chair TenBruggencate said yes. Chair TenBruggencate clarified that the
Commission could "refer and defer".
Ms. Suzawa moved to defer CRC 2017-10 and
refer to the County Attorney for an opinion. Mr.
Watanabe seconded the motion. Motion carried
6:0
Chair TenBruggencate stated that after consulting with their attorney, the
Commission had the option of moving the Executive Session items into
Open Session, and asked the Commission for their preference. Mr.
Nakamura and Mr. Watanabe said they preferred to take up the items in
Executive Session. Chair TenBruggencate asked to take the Election of
Chair and Vice Chair before entering into Executive Session.
CRC 2017-12 Election of Chair and Vice Chair for calendar year 2018
(deferred 11127/17)
Ms. Kapali nominated Commissioner Suzawa as
Chair. Mr. Watanabe seconded the motion.
Chair TenBruggencate called for public testimony to which there was none.
Motion carried 6:0.
Ms. Kapali nominated Commissioner
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TenBruggencate as Vice Chair. Mr. Watanabe
seconded the motion. Motion carried 6:0.
Executive Session
Mr. Nakamura moved to go into Executive Session
at 5:43 p.m. Mr. Watanabe seconded the motion.
Motion carried 6:0.
Mr. Taylor stated that he was disappointed the Commission chose to go into
Executive Session to discuss the findings of the proposed Charter
Amendments. He said it wasn't good open government.
Chair TenBruggencate stated that he agreed with Mr. Taylor, but that the
discussion was regarding the Attorney's opinion, and that the items would
be back on the agenda for public testimony in the future.
Return to Open
Ratify Commission actions taken in Executive Session for items ES-001 and
The Commission resumed in Open Session at 6:01
ES-002
Session
p.m.
Mr. Nakamura moved to ratify the actions taken in
Executive Session. Mr. Watanabe seconded the
motion. Motion carried 6:0.
Announcements
Next Meeting: Monday, January 22, 2018, 4:00 p.m., in the Mo'ikeha
Building, Meeting Room 2 AB
Adjournment
Chair TenBruggencate adjourned the meeting at
6:03 p.m.
Submitted by:
Lani Agoot, Administrative Specialist
Reviewed and Approved by:
Jan TenBruggencate, Chair
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() Approved as circulated.
() Approved with amendments. See minutes of meeting.