HomeMy WebLinkAbout2017-0127 ETHICS Open Session (special meeting)Minutes of Meeting
OPEN SESSION
COUNTY OF KAUAI
Auuroved as circulated February 17.2017
Board/Committee:
I BOARD OF ETHICS
Meeting Date
I January 27, 2017
Location
Mo`ikeha Building, Liquor Conference Room 3
Start of Meeting: 1:00 p.m.
End of Meeting: 2:04 p.m.
Present
Chair Mary Tudela; Vice Chair Michael Curtis; Secretary Maureen Tabura. Members: Ryan de la Pena; Calvin Murashige; Brad
Nagano; Mia Shiraishi
Staff. Deputy County Attorney Matthew Bracken; Department of Liquor Control Secretary Cherisse Zaima; Boards and Commissions
Administrator Jay Furfaro
Excused
Absent
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Call To Order
Chair Tudela called the meeting to order at 1:00
p.m. with 7 members present.
Roll Call
Staff conducted a roll call noting all 7 members were present.
Request for
Advisory
Opinion
RAO 17-003 Request received 1/20/17 from County Attorney Mauna Kea
Trask for an advisoryopinion. The County is currently in collective
bargaining negotiations with Hawaii Fire Fighters Association (HFFA).
HFFA is proposing a revision to Section 47 of their Collective Bargaining
Agreement. The Office of the County Attorney requests an advisory
opinion from the Board of Ethics on Whether or not such a revision would
be allowable under the Code of Ethics.
Chair Tudela noted for the record a correction to the item listed, noting that
it states the request for advisory opinion was made by County Attorney
Mauna Kea Trask; however, the request was actually made by Director of
Human Resources, Janine Rapozo.
Mr. Jonathan Spiker, counsel for the Hawaii Fire Fighters Association, was
present. Mr. Spiker distributed copies of his testimony to the Board, and
read his testimony for the record. (On file)
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Mr. Murashige asked if there is any employer in the State of Hawaii that
allows a union logo to be on a uniform to which Mr. Spiker replied he is not
aware of any other employees that have union logos as part of their uniform
in Hawaii.
Mr. Murashige asked if there is any Hawaii court case that supports his
position to which Mr. Striker stated not that he is aware of, however, he
would need to do further research to verify that.
Chair Tudela referenced Page 2 of his testimony where he cited the NLRB
along with the Public Aviation Corporation, and asked in those particular
cases who paid for the logos? Mr. Striker replied that in the California
Public Relations Board case, the members or employees either paid part or
in -full. Chair Tudela then asked that in the request from HFFA, who will
pay for the logo. Mr. Striker explained that in terms of the bargaining
agreement they are seeking, the County or the employer would supply the
uniforms which would have the union logo already affixed.
Mr. Colin Wilson, Hawaii Fire Fighters Association Kauai division Chair
was present to provide testimony in support of HFFA's request. Mr. Wilson
explained that this proposal goes back to the start of the negotiation process
last year, which was to include the HFFA patch on the firefighter uniforms.
Upon conducting internet research, Mr. Wilson found the National Labor
Relations Act, and referenced Sections 7, and 8 (a)(1), which states it is
unfair labor practice for an employer to interfere with restraining or
coercing employees in the exercise of rights guaranteed in Section 7 of the
act, with specific reference to prohibiting employees from wearing union
buttons, t-shirts, and other union insignia unless special circumstances exist.
In researching "special circumstances", Mr. Wilson looked into court cases,
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the national labor relations board, and other individual state labor relation
boards, and came across a case from 2015 regarding NLRB, and ARJ
striking down a button and sticker ban. This case had to do with Pacific
Bell telephone company, where the NLRB found that the employer could
not lawfully prohibit employees from wearing union buttons and stickers
that contained what was argued to be vulgar language such as WTF, FTW,
and the word "crap". Because these were worn by employees who had
regular interactions with customers, the employer argued it was offensive
and was considered a special circumstance. However, the NLRB as well as
the judge determined that the language displayed on the stickers and shirts
was not so vulgar and offensive as to cause the employees to lose the
protection of the National Labor Relations Act.
Mr. Wilson stated there was another case he came across at which point
Chair Tudela interjected to direct Mr. Wilson to present information that
relates to the State of Hawaii because laws outside of that jurisdiction don't
have any bearing on the question before the Board. Mr. Wilson stated he
feels the National Labor Relations Acts includes everyone. Chair Tudela
agreed, but pointed out that Mr. Wilson's original statement was a question
of why this issue has come before the Board of Ethics. She explained that
the Board has been presented with a very specific set of questions, and will
only be deciding whether or not the request from HFFA will be violating
any existing laws in the Kauai County Charter, in Section 3 of the County of
Kauai Code of Ethics, and in the Rules and Regulations of the County of
Kauai Board of Ethics.
Mr. Wilson referenced the letter from the Hawaii State Ethics Commission
which states that their letter is based on information provided, and
questioned whether the Board has the same information that was provided
to the Hawaii State Ethics Commission, as he has no clue what was
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provided to them. Chair Tudela replied that the Board does indeed have the
information which will be discussed among the Board in Executive Session.
She explained that because the question involves labor negotiations as well
as Human Resource advice, it will need to be discussed in Executive
Session so the Board may consult with their counsel for legal advice. Chair
Tudela listed for Mr. Wilson the information and documents the Board has
received regarding this request. (On file) She feels comfortable that she has
enough information to deliberate and come to a decision.
Mr. Wilson asked whether the County of Kauai Board of Ethics would be
looking at any other similar cases outside of Kauai, or will outside cases
have no bearing on their decision? Chair Tudela stated the Board's role is
not to do any legal interpretation on any other cases, but rather to make a
decision on questions specifically directed to the Board in the request for
Advisory Opinion as it relates to the County of Kauai.
Mr. Wilson added that he has been with the Kauai Fire Department for
almost 30 years, and for at least the past 20 years there has been no real
dress code regarding the wearing of hats. In the last 15 years or so, he has
worn a baseball cap while on duty that bears the HFFA logo, and it has
never been an issue. He feels the wearing of the union logo shows how the
firefighters are in unison with their union; he does not see how having a
union patch on a uniform is ethically wrong. He mentioned again that he
has reviewed court cases, and has found nothing in the State of Hawaii of
similar circumstances, which is why he had to reference court cases outside
of Hawaii. Mr. Wilson referenced a case in Sacramento where employees
were wearing union patches and were asked to remove them.
Mr. Wilson asked whether the decision made by the Kauai Ethics Board
will be the final decision; what will happen after they decide. Chair Tudela
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explained that the Kauai Board of Ethics is only responding the request
made by the Department of Human Resources for an advisory opinion, and
does not know what will happen beyond that.
Mr. Nagano asked why this is such a major issue in the bargaining unit
negotiations. Chair Tudela consulted Deputy County Attorney Matthew
Bracken to determine whether that was something that could be discussed in
open session being that it relates to bargaining unit arbitration. Attorney
Bracken replied that he does not see any problem in responding to the
question. Mr. Wilson stated he feels it has to do with pride, and because it
is being done in other jurisdictions outside of the State of Hawaii, they felt it
would be good to do here; he is a little flabbergasted that it became such an
issue. He reiterated that it has to do with pride and showing solidarity.
Mr. Wilson provided an example of the Kauai Hospice event that is put on
every year that is often credited to the Kauai Fire Department; however, the
firefighters union puts it on. The union does not have a problem with that
because they feel they are one in the same, and support each other which is
the message they are trying to get across.
Ms. Tabura asked to clarify whether all the firefighters wear baseball caps
with the union logo on it to which Mr. Wilson replied some do, not all.
Sometimes they wear caps with other types of logos. Ms. Tabura asked
whether all firefighters wear pins or other indicators that they belong to
HFFA on their uniforms to which Mr. Wilson replied it is a matter of
choice; some do, others don't.
County Attorney Mauna Kea Trask was present on behalf of petitioner
Janine Rapozo, Director of Human Resources. Attorney Trask thanked the
members for participating in this special meeting, acknowledging and
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apologizing for the last minute request. Attorney Trask stated for
edification the request for advisory opinion covers a simple, brief recitation
of the facts up until this point. He explained that the employer group which
is comprised of the State of Hawaii and all the counties within, are currently
involved in arbitration over various proposals, one of which is Section 47,
which is included in the petition. He stated for the record that the Board has
received Section 47 of the HFFA Bargaining Unit 11 proposal. (Exhibit A)
Attorney Trask further explained that upon receipt of the union proposals,
the State felt there may be a fair treatment issue under Hawaii Revised
Statutes 84-13; the letter referenced by Mr. Wilson was included in the
request to the Board. (Exhibit B). For clarity and ease of reference,
Attorney Trask noted Exhibit C contains the State's Fair Treatment law
(HRS 84-13) along with the case notes, which he will discuss further. Also
included in the request to the Board is Exhibit D, which is copy of the Kauai
County Code Section 3-1.6, which is a mirror image of the State's fair
treatment law.
Attorney Trask pointed out that though this is relating to occurring
arbitration, it is regarding whether this proposal is wise or legal, or who will
pay for it; this is an ethical issue. Referencing Mr. Murashige's question on
whether there is any other Hawaii court cases that supports this proposition,
Attorney Trask stated that Mr. Spiker was correct in saying no; there is no
case regarding the prohibition of allowance of union logos on government
uniforms. He pointed out though, that it is important to note that
government uniforms is an important distinction to make. He added that
Mr. Wilson wears a union hat at work, and no one takes issue with it, but
pointed out that the hat is not a county governmental -paid -for public
uniform; that is a separate issue. Attorney Trask stated that Mr. Spiker is
also correct in stating that SHOPO does not put union logo on police
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uniforms, and HGEA and UPW do not put union logos on employee
uniforms; HFFA is not being excluded, and are being treated like everyone
else.
Regarding the extra jurisdictional court cases referenced by Mr. Spiker,
Attorney Trask stated he went ahead and pulled up those cases. He
explained that in the Sacramento case, the members did pay for the union
logo, noting they are given a uniform allowance per their contract.
Attorney Trask disagreed with the characterization of the U.S. Supreme
Court case involving the National Labor Relations Board, noting that in that
case, the members did not pay as there were no union members. The first
point he made was that this case involved private companies that do have
public governmental ethics rules or ethics boards. That case dealt with two
separate companies with similar issues, one of which was the Republic
Aviation Corporation, who was ordered to cease and desist from
discouraging membership in a union, and directing reinstatement of
discharged employees. In that case there was no union that was affiliated or
bargained with the Republic Aviation Corporation. Employees were trying
to form a union and were walking around wearing union pins. The
company had an anti -solicitation policy which is what was used to prohibit
the forming of a union organization. He restated for clarification that this
was not an issue of union members wearing union logos, but rather private
citizens trying to form a union that a private company was trying to
discourage using a very broad anti -solicitation policy; this case has nothing
to do with the issue before this Board.
Attorney Trask referenced Page 2 of the written testimony provided by Mr.
Spiker that states in Republic Aviation Corporation the Supreme Court of
the United States held that "the right of employees to wear union insignia at
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work has long been recognized as a reasonable, and legitimate form of
union activity". Attorney Trask pointed out that particular quote is not
found anywhere in the body of the case, but is rather a small section taken
from a larger quote in footnote 7 that includes the statement by the Supreme
Court: "we do not believe that the wearing of a steward button is a
representation that the employer either approves or recognizes the union as
the representative of the employees...". It goes on to say "on the other
hand, the right to wear union insignia at work has long been recognized as a
reasonable, and legitimate form of union activity. Attorney Trask wished to
clarify that Mr. Spiker's quote is taken out of context and is not contained
within the body of the case. Attorney Trask further added that it was really
a due process, substantive procedural issue as to whether or not people who
wanted to form a union could wear union logos while at work at a private
company; it was not an ethical question of wearing union insignia at work.
Attorney Trask referenced the California Public Relations Board decision,
and made a few distinctions on the decision, noting the question in that case
involved the County of Sacramento interfering with the employees' rights
guaranteed by the Meyers Milias Brown Act in violation of Sections 3506,
3506.5(a), and denied Local 552 it's right to represent employees in
violation of 3503, and 3506.5(b). He explained that Meyers Milias Brown
is a California State statute, a California law that does not exist in Hawaii.
Attorney Trask further defined this case by explaining that the County of
Sacramento has an Aircraft Rescue Fire division, which is exclusively
represented by Local 552. In Sacramento, other municipal fire departments
serving the airport are Metro Fire Department, and the Sacramento City Fire
Department. Those two fire departments had policies allowing for the
display of union insignia on their uniforms, and at a later time when the
Aircraft Rescue Fire division agreed to be represented by Local 552, there
was an informal understanding and practice of allowing members to wear
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their insignia on uniforms. At one point a fire chief disallowed that, and a
complaint was made that his action violated the Meyer Milias Brown Act,
which is what this case relates to. Attorney Trask argued that both of this
cases are not applicable, and does not address the Ethics question that is
before the Board.
Attorney Trask stated for clarification that Ms. Rapozo's request is not
meant to be adversarial. She only wishes to determine whether the Board
feels HFFA's request is ethical or not before they move forward with the
negotiation process.
In response to Mr. Murashige's question on whether there are any Hawaii
cases that support the position of HFFA, which Mr. Spiker correctly
answered no, Attorney Trask referenced Exhibit B, which includes HRS 84-
13 Fair treatment, noting that it does reference a Hawaii State Supreme
Court case involving HGEA, and the Hawaii Labor Relations Board. He
provided a brief overview of this case explaining that the union representing
the government employees filed a prohibitive practice complaint after a
union representative was asked to remove materials endorsing candidates
for public office from a State bulletin board assigned for union notices.
Following a hearing the Hawaii Labor Relations Board dismissed the
complaint on union appeal. The Supreme Court held the following relevant
part: The State Ethics Code ban preventing union from posting campaign
materials on bulletin board did not violate the statutory right of the union to
engage in mutual aid or protection, and furthermore the State ethics ban on
posting campaign materials was not preempted by collective bargaining
statute. Attorney Trask feels the gravamen of this case, which is Hawaii
Supreme Court Law, Hawaii State Law says that ethics is its own question.
Attorney Trask concluded by saying that Mr. Spiker says this is about a
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symbol, a U.S. Patented symbol for the union, a patch for a private
organization. According to Mr. Wilson, it is about pride. Attorney Trask
stated it is important to note that it is about the union's logo, stating that
Article 13, Section 2 of the Hawaii State Constitution says public employees
have the right to collectively bargain, and he is not here to say they don't.
This issue is about ethics relating to a public employer; the private
employers have no relevance to this. The question is not whether they can
wear the union logos on their hats, other employees wear surf logos on their
hats; that is not a problem. The question is whether it is allowable for
public employers with public money pay for the affixing of a private
organization's logo; that is clearly an ethics questions.
Attorney Trask also noted that Mr. Wilson stated that HFFA puts on the
annual Kauai Hospice event with assistance from the Fire Department, and
stated that the Kauai Hospice is a non-profit organization that provides a
very important service. However, this Board has made past rulings
prohibiting County officers who sit on private organization boards from
appearing before the County as a member since they are now wearing two
hats.
Attorney Trask stated that Ms. Rapozo's question as the HR Director is that
if this gets approved, all the other unions will follow. It may get to a point
of the HR Department and the Board of Ethics having to determine which
patches are and are not allowed, and it may be questioned that if the union
can affix their patch to government -paid uniforms, why can't another
organization such as the Humane Society affix their patch. It appears, per
the reasoning of the State Ethics Commission, that it would be endorsing
with public money on public property, and would be a violation of Fair
Treatment. However, it will ultimately be the Board's decision to make.
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Chair Tudela stated the Board was now preparing to enter into executive
session. Attorney Bracken noted that because there is no specific person
being discussed, the Board does not need to go into executive session to
discuss this item unless they have specific questions for counsel. Chair
Tudela stated she does have some questions for counsel.
Mr. Spiker provided additional testimony to clarify his point, stating that a
Honolulu Police Department vehicle that he came across had a Ford
emblem affixed to it. He noted that this is a Honolulu Police Department
vehicle that was paid for by the City and County that has a private
company's logo affixed to it. He feels this is analogous to what is before
the Board today. The reason being that he feels HFFA's affixing of the logo
does not represent an endorsement by the County or the State, but rather the
strength and power by which the union was formed.
Chair Tudela felt Mr. Spiker was attempting to present a legal interpretation
of something different, and pointed out that the specific question from
Human Resources is whether HFFA's request is in breach of the specifically
referenced regulations and laws.
Attorney Trask provided a response to Mr. Spiker's statement regarding
police vehicles, noting that a subsidized vehicle falls under procurement
laws.
Executive
Deputy County Attorney Matthew Bracken read
Session
the Hawaii Revised Statutes provision as
detailed on the agenda to take the Board into
Executive Session for ROA 17-003 to consult
with the Board's legal counsel on a request for
advisory opinion on a revision to Section 47 of
the HFFA collective bargaining agreement.
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Mr. de la Pena moved to enter into executive
session. Mr. Murashige seconded the motion.
Motion carried 7:0.
Return to Open
The meeting resumed in open session at 1:58
Session
Chair Tudela reminded the Board that any discussion they have on this item
p.m.
will now be documented in the minutes, which will be public record.
Ms. Tabura stated for clarification that the County pays for and therefore
owns the uniforms and HFFA, which is a private organization, is wanting to
put their logo on the County uniform. She questioned what would happen if
another company or organization wanted to do the same; would they keep
adding patches and logos? She also pointed out that, currently, the
firefighters are allowed to wear caps and other items with the HFFA logo on
it. Mr. de la Pena pointed out that those other items are not paid for by the
County with which Ms. Tabura agreed.
Chair Tudela referenced Page 2 of the opinion provided by the Hawaii State
Ethics Commission, specifically the paragraph stating that placing a union
emblem on a state uniform or helmet gives HFFA unfair advantage over
existing or similar organizations. She stated that to her knowledge there are
no other firefighters' unions in Hawaii, so she does not see that being an
issue. She stated that she sees it as a "branding" issue, noting the logo
Mr. Murashige moved that HFFA's proposal
belongs to HFFA which is a private organization, but the uniforms are paid
goes against Hawaii Revised Statutes Section
for by the County which is a public entity.
84-13 Fair Treatment and would be a violation
of the County of Kauai's Code of Ethics. Mr.
Mr. Murashige stated that he doesn't think it needs to be taken that far, and
Nagano seconded the motion. Motion carried
clarified that his motion is simply to consider HFFA's request a violation of
7:0
the Code of Ethics.
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Announcements
Next Meeting: Friday, February 17, 2017 — 1:00 p.m., Mo'ikeha Building,
Liquor Conference Room
Adjournment
Mr. Curtis moved to adjourn the meeting. Mr.
Murashige seconded the motion. Motion carried
7:0.
Submitted by:
Cherisse Zaima, Private Secretary
() Approved as circulated.
() Approved with amendments. See minutes of
Reviewed and Approved by:
meeting.
Mary Tudela, Chair