HomeMy WebLinkAboutFebruary 25, 2016 KHPRC Meeting Agenda PacketMEETING OF THE
KAUA'I COUNTY HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMISSION
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 25, 2016
3:00 p.m. (or soon thereafter)
Lrhu'e Civic Center, Moikeha Building
Meeting Room 2A/2B
4444 Rice Street, Lihu'e, Kaua'i
AGENDA
A. CALL TO ORDER
B. SELECTION OF 2016 VICE CHAIRPERSON
C. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA
D. APPROVAL OF THE JANUARY 7, 2016 MEETING MINUTES
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E. PUBLIC COMMENT -Individuals may orally testify on items on this agenda during the
Public Comment Period. Please call the Planning Department prior to the meeting or
notify Commission Staff at the meeting site. Testimony shall also be accepted when the
agenda item is taken up by the Commission. However if an individual has already
testified during this period, additional testimony at the agenda item testimony may be
allowed at the discretion of the Chair. Testifiers shall limit their testimony to three (3)
minutes, but may be extended longer at the discretion of the Chair. Written testimony is
also accepted. An original and twelve (12) copies of written testimony can be hand
delivered to the Planning Department or submitted to Commission Staff at the meeting
site.
F. ANNOUNCEMENTS AND GENERAL BUSINESS MATTERS
G. COMMUNICATIONS
H. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Report from investigative committee (Permitted Interaction Group) to discuss and
explore draft update of the Kauai Historic Resource Inventory. Once formed and
the task completed, the investigative committee will present its findings to the
Commission in a duly noticed meeting for decision -making.
2. Discussion on the status of the Certified Local Government.
February
25, 2016 K.H.P.R.C.
Meeting
Agenda
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I. NEW BUSINESS
Former Kauai Police Station
TMK: 3-6-002:005 & 022
3060 Umi Street, Lihue, Kauai
Proposed demolition.
aI Letter (5/29/15) to Chris Kinimaka, Department of Accounting &General
Services from Kaiwi Nui Youn, Architecture Branch Chief, State of Hawaii,
Department of Land & Natural Resources, Historic Preservation Division,
COMMISSION EDUCATION (None)
K. DATE AND AGENDA TOPICS (March 24, 2016)
L. ADJOURNMENT
EXECUTIVE SESSION: The Commission may go into an executive session on an agenda item for
one of the permitted purposes listed in Section 92-5(a) Hawaii Revised Statutes ("H.R.S."),
without noticing the executive session on the agenda where the executive session was not
anticipated in advance. HRS Section 92-7(a). The executive session may only be held,
however, upon an affirmative vote of two-thirds of the members present, which must also
be the majority of the members to which the board is entitled. HRS Section 924. The
reason for holding the executive session shall be publicly announced.
Note: Special accommodations and sign language interpreters are available upon request
five (5) days prior to the meeting date, to the County Planning Department, 4444 Rice
Street, Suite 473, Lihue, Hawaii 96766. Telephone: 241-4050,
KAUA`I COUNTY HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMISSION
Lihu`e Civic Center, Mo`ikeha Building, Meeting Room 2A/213
A regular meeting of the Kauai County Historic Preservation Commission (KHPRC) was held on
January 7, 2016 in the LIhu`e Civic Center, Mo`ikeha Building, Meeting Room 2A/213.
The following Commissioners were present: Chairperson Pat Griffin, Anne Schneider, David
Helder, Althea Arinaga, Charlotte Hoomanawanui, and Deatri Nakea.
The following Commissioners were absent: Stephen Long, Victoria Wichman, and Larry Chafftn
Jr.
The following staff members were present: Planning Department— Kaaina Hull, Shanlee
Jimenez, Myles Hironaka, Leslie Takasaki; Deputy Comity Attorney Jodi Higuchi-Sayegusa;
Office of Boards and Commissions —Administrator Jay Furfaro (left at4:18p.m.), Commission
Support Clerk Darcie Agaran.
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 3:02 p.m.
APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA
Ms. Griffin: With the
Approval of the
Agenda, if it
is acceptable with the Commission, we will
move the swearing in
until our County
Clerk comes.
Is there no objection? Then may I have a
motion to approve the
agenda?
Mr. Helder: So moved.
Ms. Griffin: Thank you.
Ms. Arinaga: Second.
Ms. Griffin: All in favor? (Unanimous voice vote) Opposed? None. Motion carries 5:0.
APPROVAL OF THE DECEMBER 3, 2015 MEETING MINUTES
Ms. Griffin: The Approval of the December 3, 2015 Meeting Minutes.
Ms. Schneider: I make a motion that we approve the minutes as stated.
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Ms. Armaaa: I second.
S. Griffin: Thank you. I appreciate the motion. I do have a couple of... and they are in spellings
of names. On Page 3, the second speaker down should say "Ms. Griffin" rather than "Chair
Anderson". And on Page 2 1, 1 will bring to you the ... but it's Ross Cordy, C-O-R-D-Y, rather than
K-O-E-R-T-E, and that's just a small... And also on Page 27, Canen Hookano is actually C-A-N-
E-N rather than it is printed. So would you withdraw your motion and redo it with...?
Ms. Schneider: I withdraw the motion.
Ms. Griffin: You can move to make it with corrections.
Ms. Schneider: I make a motion that we accept the corrections and minutes as stated.
Mr. Helder: Second.
Ms.
Griffin:
Thank you
All in favor?
(Unanimous voice vote)
Opposed?
(None) Motion carries
5:0.
The minutes stand
as corrected.
ANNOUNCEMENTS AND GENERAL BUSINESS MATTERS
Ms. Griffin: Moving onto Announcements. I spoke this morning with Anna Broverman from the
State Historic Preservation Division, and they are actually going to come over here and do the
survey of the historic districts that they have been talking about with the funding from the
legislature last year. They are going to be doing Hanapepe; the LThu`e Town Track, Akahi and
Elua; Waipouli, the Baby Beach, the old Pineapple Manager's area makai of the highway; and
Hanalei. She called to ask what community groups or other groups in each of these areas would
be good for her to contact. So I would like to open it to your opinion.
Ms. Schneider: Well, the Hanalei group is the (inaudible).
Ms. Arinaga: Can you clarify what they will be doing when they get here, please?
Ms. Griffin: They will be surveying these different areas, and I don't know, for instance, how
much of Hanapepe, or what the parameters of each of the sites are, trying to identify whether the
body of the structures still has historical integrity. They were given $100,000 for each of two (2)
years to do this survey.
I am going to call a recess on this ... Item F. and go back to the swearing in of the new and
reappointed members.
SWEARING IN OF NEW AND REAPPOINTED COMMISSION MEMBF,RS
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County Clerk Jade Tanigawa gave the Oath of Office to new Commission Member Deatri Nakea.
County Clerk Jade Tanigawa gave the Oath of Office to reappointed Commission Members Anne
Schneider and Althea Arinaga.
Ms. Griffin: And for our new member, perhaps each of us can say our name and introduce
ourselves.
Ms. Hoomanawanui: Yeah, I did. I'm Honey Girl.
Mr. Helder: David Helder.
Ms. Griffin: And...
Deputy County Attorney Jodi Hi�uchi-Sayegusa: Hi, I'm Jodi Higuchi-Sayegusa, Deputy County
Attorney, here just to assist with the procedural... and anything else that comes up during the
meeting.
Ms. Griffin: Pat Griffin.
Ms. Schneider: Anne Schneider.
Ms. Arinaga: Althea, but Kalei sounds nicer, Arinaga. (Laughter in background)
Ms. Griffin: Thank you, and...
Deputy Planning Director Kaaina Hull: Kaaina Hull, Deputy for the Planning Department.
Ms. Griffin: Great.
ANNOUNCEMENTS AND GENERAL BUSINESS MATTERS (Continued)
Ms. Griffin: Moving back to the Announcements. We were talking about the surveying that SHPD
has been given funds from the Legislature to do. The Leg slature passed a law last year saying
that any individual homes did not have to go ... when they were making changes on their property,
they did not have to go before the State Historic Preservation Division for approval and talk about
impact and whatever, unless they are on the State or National Register. So these funds, they are
coming to each of our Counties to identify four (4) or five (5) neighborhoods that may be eligible
to become historic districts, and that is what they are going to do with these four (4) different
places on Kauai. They would like, from us, community groups, people that they can talk to at the
end of this month about the process and the National Register and so forth. So Hanapepe, do we
have a group in Hanapepe that...? Rest Kauai Business Association? Or...? Lihu`e?
Mr.
Helder: I'm sorry. Say it again.
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Ms. Griffin: They'd like to let people know what's going on in each of the common ties.
Mr. Helder: Oh yeah, no, no. I got all of that part. The last word you said I didn't understand.
Ms. Griffin: Our County seat, Lihu`e, the Akahi and Elua Streets are where they are looking at.
Mr. Helder: Okay, okay. Is this to, .because Hanalei is already a historic village, is this to take it
beyond that?
Ms. Griffin: Yes. It's actually to assess the possibility of putting it as a historic district on the
State or National Register,
Mr. Heldor: Okay.
Ms. Griffin:
And now it has special
treatment overlays, but it's not actually
formally on the
register.
Ms. Schneider: There is a group in Hanalei that's called... (Inaudible), I think, is the head. I can
get the numbers.
Ms. Griffin: Okay.
Ms. Arinaga: So you are looking for contacts within the communities?
Ms. Schneider: Within the community that are involved in community outreach.
Ms. Griffin: How about the Hanalei Roads Committee?
Mr. Helder: Hanalei Roads is one to talk to with Barbara.
Ms. Griffin: Okay. The Waipouli, Kapa`a...it's really the Kapa`a-area.
Mr. Helder: That would be...
Ms. Arinaga: The Kapa`a Business people.
Mr. Helder: The Waipa Foundation up there is in that same area.
Ms. Griffin: In Hanalei?
Mr. Helder:
Yes.
Ms. Arinaga: Kapa`a?
Mr. Helder: No, sorry.
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Ms. Armaga: Olcay,
Ms, Griffin: That s alright. Kapa`a has a neighborhood association?
Ms. Arinaea: Yes.
Ms. Schneider: And a business association as well.
Ms. Griffin: Okay. Any other groups that you think that would be helpful or should lrnow that
could enlarge the conversation?
Mx. Helder: Are you going to do Anahola?
Ms.
Griffin:
What
she told me they
are looking at right now is Hanapepe, the Lihu`e Town Track,
the
Baby Beach area of Kapa`a, and
Hanalei.
Mr. Helder: Okay.
Ms.
Griffin:
If something
comes to mind, I don't think it would be outside of our rules to email
me,
and I'll
send it to her.
Any other General Business Matters?
Mr. Hull: Yes, I have one (1), Chair. It might have been listed as a communication, but we were
a little late in setting up for the agenda, so it should be done during Announcements. Hawaii State
Department of Transportation has transmitted a memorandum requesting the presence of this body
at their forum to discuss the rehabilitation of historic bridges and the way in which DOT processes
historic bridges in their reconstruction or repair. That was part of a memorandum of understanding
that DOT executed with State Historic Preservation Division that they include this body in that
forum. So how this body participates in it ... ultimately, it can be, in our estimation, relatively loose
in that if Commission members want to attend individually, or if they want to attend as a body, or
another route would be to appoint a specific spokesperson for this body at that forum.
Ms. Griffm: And from the letter it looks like February...
Mr. Hull: Sorry. Yes, so it's for February 25'.
Ms. Schneider: And where is it?
Ms. Arinaaa: Highways Kauai District Office.
Mr. Hull: Yeah, so that's over in Puhi.
Ms. Schneider: I would suggest that Pat go since she's the bridge person. (Laughter in
background)
Mr. Helder: Yes, I vote for Pat, also, to represent all of us. (Laughter in background)
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Ms. Griffin: That's reatly sweet of you all, but I actually believe that the more of us who are able
to go, the more impact we will have with the DOT, which is really... has made great strides in the
last couple of years.
Ms. Schneider: And when is it?
S. Griffin: It's February 25.
Ms. Arina�a: Do we know the time?
Ms. Griffin: Not yet.
Mr. Hull: It hasn't set the time. They'll get back to us on that.
Ms.
Griffin:
So I would
suggest that we make a motion to add
this
to next
month's
agenda when
we
know everything, but
yeah, and consider looking as a group
or a
partial
group.
Ms. Arinaaa: I agree.
Ms. Griffin: Would we need to sunshine...?
Mr. Helder: You're suggesting the next...oh. Yeah, you're suggesting...the next meeting is on
the 25`J'.
Ms. Griffin: Well, that's if we change our...
Mr. Helder: Okay.
Mr. Hull: Well, we'll get...yeah.
Ms. Hiauchi-Sa�gusa; I mean, it's just an invitation and kind of a...you're spreading the
information of another event that's going to take place. It's not, essentially, exactly the business
of this body, but if you, personally, are interested in attending, I don't see a problem with that.
Mr. Hull: Well, there's a couple of things to take into consideration when participating in this
Forum. If you individuals go as Commission members individually, your input will essentially be
as an individual and as a Commission member; however, it will not be the voice of this
Commission because you are speaking individually. The only way that the ... in the forum that the
voice of this Commission can be established is two (2) routes. After the forum is done and say
there are topics of discussion, this body comes back and discusses it and votes on a resolution, or
a statement of sorts, to give to what happened at the forum. Or you can authorize a single
individual to speak on behalf of this Commission at that forum specifically. There's essentially
three (3) different routes that you guys can go. Each three (3) have different effects, or I would
say, authority... or have different levels of authority when speaking before the forum, and it just
depends on what level of authority or participation you want going in there.
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Ms. mguchi-Sayegusa: Right.
Mr, Hu11: There's different things to weigh, essentially.
Ms. Hi&-"- Sayegusa: And if it's the latter, then I would say we should probably have this as an
agenda item, so we can decide on what form of support or representation you want at this... But
at this point, you ]snow, it's an announcement, and we are now aware that there is such an event,
and if you folks are personally interested in participating, then I don't see a problem with that.
Ms. Griffm: Is there a problem with five (5) of us going personally?
Ms. Hifruehi-Sayegusa: I mean, in your individual capacity and not malting any representations
on behalf of the Commission, I don't think that runs afoul of anything.
Ms. Schneider: We go and absorb what they have to say and come back to the Commission and
explain it.
Ms. Hi�uehi-Sam usa: Yeah, I mean again, if, as a body, you want to contribute in a certain
official way, then I would say put it on the agenda and you can then discuss it publicly. But if it
just so happens that most of you end up going on a personal basis, then, I mean, that's on a personal
basis.
Ms. Griffin: What's your pleasure?
Mr. Helder: You're the one on bridges. (Laughter in background) No, really. The question is
what kind of impact do we need to have out there on what's going on with the bridges because it
looks to me like we haven't been considered very often. Do we need to send a representative there
to say that? Or do we want to go, hind of helter skelter and then come back here and send a letter?
Which would have more impact on what we want? And what do we want? That's a question and
you'll have to answer it here today because this meeting is going to be fairly ... if you change the
agenda, it won't come up again before this happens.
Ms. Griffin: Right. Unless if we change the monthly meeting date, potentially we could meet
at the fourth Thursday of tlris month, which is the 28's, and then move to the 25r' of February, etc.
Other ideas?
Ms. Arina�a:
I'm not sure
because I'm looking
at the possible
changes in dates, and these dates
all fall on the
same day?
Ms. Griffin: It would change ... this is a different agenda item, but it relates to this February 25a',
but last month, there was the discussion of SHPD folks have trouble...both the Maui Cultural
Resources Commission and the Historic Preservation Review Commission meet the first
Thursdays afternoon at the same time. So we discussed moving one or the other meetings so that
there would be more availability, and that's actually at the end of the agenda on if we want to do
that or not. I guess another option is to ... because what they are wanting to do is develop a
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consultation protocol on now to mitigate the adverse effect of the LShu`e Mill Bridge. I suppose
it's possible to put it after the February 25 h agenda and come back if there has been, you know, if
any of us have gone as individuals, to be able to discuss what recommendations we have as a body.
So that's a possibility. Perhaps I can have a motion, and we can discuss it further.
Mr. Helder: I move that we move this discussion until after we have a discussion about the change
of dates.
Mr. Hull I think you would just request a table, I believe. Jodi?
Ms.
Higuchi-Sam
usa:
To table the discussion...perhaps
you can bring
it up during the next
meeting topics. Yeah, so
it would be a motion to
table the discussion, and
then possibly you can
bring it up at a later ... let's
see, selection of commission
dates.
Ms.
Griffin:
Okay.
So this
part of the
Announcements and General Business Matters we will
defer until after the
selection
of meeting
dates.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Ms. Griffin; And while I am still so close to Item E, is there anyone who has public comment on
any of these items before we go further? Thank you.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Re: Report from investigative committee (Permitted Interaction Group) to discuss and
explore draft update of the Kauai Historic Resource Inventory. Once formed and
the task completed, the investigative committee will present its findings to the
Commission in a duly noticed meeting for decision -making.
Ms.
Griffin:
So, Unfinished Business.
The
first item is
the report from the investigative
committee, the Permitted Interaction Group
that
we call a PIG,
to discuss and explore draft update
of the Kauai Historic Resource Inventory.
Mr.
Hull.
Mr. Hull: For those of you who haven't been at the past few KHPRC meetings, just to give some
background, the inventory that the Department executed with a consultant a year or a year and a
half ago, the inventory update of the historic resources for Kauai, ultimately, the Department, in
consultation with SHPD, has determined that the list is too robust. There are too many properties
and it does not take into full account the historic significance of those that should be appropriately
labeled within the survey. So the Department, with SHPD, has worked to get additional criteria
that this working group, the PIG, the Permitted Interactive Group, can utilize to pare down this list
to a much more appropriate historic resource inventory. We just received the additional criteria
from SHPD a few weeks ago. I know the Chair has it, but I don't believe the other members of
the PIG have that criteria yet, so we will be submitting that to those members at the conclusion of
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this meeting, and essentially setting up a time in which the members of the PIG can come into the
County at a meeting room and just work through the list because it is a fairly large and
comprehensive survey in which you are going to want to sit together as a group and go through
the slides and go through the various criteria and checklist that the consultant did in his evaluation
and determine, through this additional criteria, whether or not a respective property should remain
on the list. At the conclusion of this meeting, we will be ... I believe there are only two (2) members
of the PIG here today, but we will be meeting, Anne and Pat, with you folks after to set up a
possible time.
Ms. Schneider: Will we get a copy of that disc with all of the properties on it? Or we just got
that...
Mr. Hull: I think we can distribute the digital copy if you want it. Like I said, it is fairly large.
Ms. Schneider: It might be better to look through...
Mr. IIu11: To begin. If you want to begin looking at it, yeah, we can work that.
Ms. Schneider: Yeah, rather than waiting to come...
NIr.
Hull:
And then
we can
set up the time in which you folks can all meet at one time and come
in,
and see
if we can
secure
a location.
Ms. Griffin: Crreat. That would be helpful. And for anybody who is not aware of the County
requirements, because of the Sunshine Law, we cannot have meetings that haven't been posted
and advertised according to rules, unless we set up a smaller group that can go through information.
The smaller group has to be less than a quorum of our body, so it can be up to four (4) people in
this Commission who can discuss a particular issue or question, bring it backto the body for voting,
but that keeps us in a way to get this things done officially without having to keep bringing all nine
(9) of us together. So when we talk about a PIG, a Permitted Interaction Group, that's why we are
doing it; to comply with the legal requirements of our County.
And yes, I think that a disc or something to just...even though I'm sure that we won't go through
every one, but just get a sense of what's (inaudible) would be helpful. Any other questions?
Discussion about the PIG?
Ms. Schneider: Yes, I do have a question. Could we get a copy of the plat maps to go with this,
so that we could plot the map on the plat maps?
Mr. Hull: You can.
Ms. Schneider: You know, like realty atlas, or...
Mr. Hull: No, we can get you the plat maps, definitely. The issue at hand is what size would you
want those?
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Ms. Schneider: Like the realty atlas size rather than the big...
Mr. Hull: Okay.
Ms. Schneider: I have them on...the old inventory, all on an old realty atlas from...I don't think
the historic properties have probably changed.
Mr. Hull: You want that in physical paper format? Or digital?
Ms. Schneider: Yes, paper form would be great.
Mr. Hull: We can. And just so you are aware, the inventory...well yeah, we can provide those.
Ms. Schneider: Yeah, because it might be easier to see the districts once they are plotted out.
Ms. Griffm: Other discussion?
Re: Discussion on the status of the Certified Local Government.
Ms. Griffin: Number 2, the discussion on the status of the Certified Local Government. Again,
last month when representatives from the State Historic Preservation Division were here, we talked
about the possibility of receiving funding and talked a little bit about the ideas that we had. They
are both short-term, the 2015 funds and 2016.funds, and I think you have a report for us.
Mr. Hull: Yes. Just real briefly, as some of you have become aware, the way that the CLG funds
work is they're done at a dual -year process. The first year that it opens, the first set of funds
often ... in the way in which the Department of Interior has set up their budgeting processes means
we have a very limited window to utilize those funds for a project, and more often than not, results
in the fact we cannot look at brick and mortar projects. So for the funds that are available for
immediate use, quite frankly, the Department is hesitant to go after brick and mortar projects and
recommend them to this body. We're recommending ... and we have been in discussions with
SHPD that the possibility of having training for you folks, which those funds can be expended.
SHPD has essentially stated that type of training and the use of CLG funds needs to be initiated
by this body, so we are here to ask you guys, what type of training do you want us to potentially
go after? There's training for specifically 106 review, there's training for overall National Historic
Preservation Act, there's also training for the specific State of I-Iawai`i Preservation Program.
What kind of...?
Ms.
Schneider:
I think what the Historic
Hawaii
Foundation did, I guess it was last year, with the
Commissioners
was very informational;
how to
put a building on the register, you know.
Mr. Hull: Okay.
Ms. Schneider: I think it was Historic Hawaii and the State who did it.
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Mr, Helder: We are almost at the point with so many new people that we need some training on
just historic preservation and the responsibilities of the members of this Board, also. I almost think
that should come first, and then 106, and the National Preservation Act after that.
Mr. Hull: We are going to go into ... and Commissioner, we recognize that, too. We've been in
discussions with Chair about that issue, so at the end of this, what's agendized is to go over a brief
discussion in a brief educational format and somewhat of a reminder for some of those who have
been reappointed of the duties and powers of this body, as well as the enabling legislation, Federal,
State, and County, and the corresponding duties and responsibilities, as well as the various
programs that you folks are responsible for administering. So we'll be doing that towards the end
of the agenda.
Ms. Schneider: And was there a possibility of adding a new Historic Planner and using some of
that CLG money for that?
Ms. Griffm: We'll talk about that with the resolution, right?
Mr. Hull: Yeah. I think what Commissioner Schneider was getting at was the CLG funds, as far
as the CLG funds ... and we'll get into the resolution after, but the CLG funds ... we've been in
discussion with SHPD and they are looking into it. They haven't gotten back to us on that one.
Ms.
Griffin:
Okay. Anything else on
the
funding?
Do you want a
formal
motion on the training?
Or
can we finish this discussion when
we
are near
the end of the...?
Mr. Hull: It's at your discretion.
Ms. Griff n: Let's finish the discussion near the end of the agenda, and move to I, New Business.
NEW BUSINESS
Re: Letter of Support for Kauai Nui Kuapapa Program.
Ms. Griffin: The letter of support for Kauai Nui Kuapapa. And we have somebody who can talk
about it.
Kanoe Ahuna: Hi. Aloha, Commissioners. Thank you for having us [sic]. I'm Kanoe Ahuna and
I'm a rcprescntative...Project Manager, actually, for the Kauai Nui Kuapapa Project. I believe
my colleagues came about two (2) weeks ago or prior to the holidays, Randy Wichman and Caren
Hookano, and did a presentation for you guys. Unfortunately, Keao and myself and Dave weren't
able to be here; however, I wanted to respond and answer any questions that you guys may have
regarding the project as we'd love to have your support and I know that we've requested a letter
of support in regards to our project. We're having some challenges with Department of
Transportation; however, nothing that we can't get through. It's just taking a while regarding the
roadway signage. It has to do with kind of our uniqueness of the signs; however, we're following
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DOT MUTCD, their huge like 700-page guidelines, but still having a little on of some challenges.
We're hoping to get through that soon and your letter of support would be greatly appreciated for
Council, as well as State and Federal.
Ms. Griffin: an you. Because of the excellence of our Kauai Plain ng Department Staff, I
have a draft of a memo that they have done. What it says is "This is to inform you..." This is to
Randy Wickman and the Kaua'i Nui Kuapapa Program. This is to inform you that the Kauai
Historic Preservation Review Commission, the KHPRC, at this meeting held on January 7"'
received your request of support for the Kauai Nui Kuapapa Program under the County of Kaua'i,
Office of Economic Development. Based on the presentation submitted at the KHPRC meeting
on December 3, 2015 and additional information provided at this meeting, KHPRC supports the
program and its efforts in moving forward with the ahupua`a and moku signage program with all
of the appropriate government agencies at the State of Hawai'i and County of Kaua'i. Is there a
response? And I believe you have seen this.
Ms. Ahura: Yes. I've briefly seen it. I guess Kaaina is going to get me a copy now.
Ms. Griffin: Okay.
Ms. Ahura: We really, really appreciate all of your support, and hoping to be able to move the
project forward, and soon you'll be able to see the ahupua`a signage all over Kauai in addition to
the moku signs that are already up, followed by some curriculum for schools and so forth. We are
very excited.
Ms.
Griffin:
And Commissioners,
is this memorandum
agreeable to you as written? Or would
you
suggest
changes? May I have a
motion?
Ms. Schneider: I make a motion to accept as stated.
Ms. Arinaga: I second.
Ms.
Griffin:
Tharnlc
you.
It's been moved by Ms.
Schneider and seconded by Ms. Arinaga to
accept and distribute
this
memorandum as written.
Further discussion?
Mr. Hull: A question I might have for Ms. Ahura would be...
Ms. Griffin: Yes, Mr. Hull.
Mi. Hull: The first draft we came out with was just really something to work with; we're not
holding hard and fast to that recommendation to this body. One question I have is that the letter
is addressed to Randy himself because he requested it, and would you prefer that it actually be an
open addressment to ... like "To Whom It May Concern"? Or "To Department of Transportation"?
Ms.
Ahura:
I
like that it
says all
State agencies. That's kind of nice because we do deal with other
State agencies;
however,
maybe
you can j
ust address it to Kauai Nui Kuapapa
Project. The Proj eet
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is run under our consulting group, Na Hoku Welo, so I don't know what would be the legal terms
for doing that versus just Randy Wichrnan, you know.
Mr. Hull: Right. Okay.
Ms. Ahura: IY s kind of a little awkward for...
Ms. Griffin: Perhaps...
Ms. Ahura: But Randy is a part of that consulting group.
Ms. Griffin: Perhaps we can also cc the Department of Transportation.
Ms. Ahura: That would be great.
Ms. Griffin: And...that doesn't need an amendment, does it7
Ms. Hi�uchi-Sayegusa: No, I mean, it's just ..you're figuring out the mechanics of the letter.
Ms.
Griffin:
Okay. So unless there
is objection,
we will add that ec to the appropriate personnel
at the DOT.
So other discussion?
Ms. Ahura: Chair, I can give Kaaina our information, and then however you guys want to reword
the language to make it fit more appropriately.
Ms.
Griffin:
Thank you.
All in favor? (Unanimous voice
vote)
Opposed?
Hearing none the
motion carries 6:0.
Myles Hironaka distributed copies of the memorandum to the Connnissioners.
Ms. Hi>?uchi-Sa�gr sa: So that was the corrections?
Mr. Hull: No, that's not the corrections. That was the original letter as drafted.
Ms. Higuchi-Sayegusa: Oh, okay.
Ms. Griffin: Thank you, Ms. Ahura.
Ms. Ahura: Thank you very much.
Re: Resolution on Preservation/Historic Planner for FY 2017 Budget.
Ms. Griffin: The next item on New Business is the Resolution on a Preservation/Historic Planner
for Fiscal Year 2017 Budget. I think you've all received a draft resolution, and I'll take just a
minute to let you review that.
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I think those of you who have recently read our ordinance will recognize much of the language in
this resolution, and those of you who have been on the Commission for a while know that we have
been advocating for a paid Preservation Planner in the Planning Department, as Maui has, and that
will make life easier for both our residents and the Planning Department Staff. Having said that,
are there comments about the resolution as a way to let the Mayor know how important we think
it is? Are there changes that you see? May I have a motion?
Ms. Schneider: I make a motion that we accept this resolution as stated.
Ms. Arina�a: Second.
Ms. Griffin: It's been moved by Ms. Schneider and seconded by Ms. Arinaga that we accept this
resolution as stated. Is there further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? (Unanimous voice
vote) Opposed? (None) The motion carries 6:0. This is great and may we have success in 2016.
I confess I did not mention why I rushed through H.2, but it was because Kanoe Ahuna had to go
pick up her children. So with your indulgence, I'd like to go back and finish Item H.21, the
discussion of the CLG education training that we were talking about for the soon -to -be expired
funds, and then talk a little bit about the 2016 funds. Thank you.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS (Continued)
Re: lliscussion on the status of the Certified Local Government.
Ms. Griffm: Anne, you were saying about education, and David, too.
Ms. Schneider: Well, the one that we went to was very good from Historic Hawaii. There was
discussion about the vernacular architecture and some educat onal materials, and how to go about
putting a building on the register. For all the Commissioners, it would be great to have that again.
Ms. Griffin: And David, you were...
Mr. Helder: Yeah, I think a lot of it had to...when we 'first started...had to do with finding out
what the responsibilities that being on a commission Like this were. And when you looked at a
project that came in, you had a set of rules and guidelines that aided you in making a decision
about whether something was replaced or readapted or ... you knew all of the definitions and what
you were responsible to look at. I would like to see that training; that's a real good core for doing
this job. Before you start thinking about putting stuff on the register or not, you need to know
what your relationship is to a particular new structure or culture or whatever. So I'd like to see the
core education be brought out again. I just think that that's really an underpinning for this
Commission.
Ms.
Griffin:
Ms. Nakea,
without totally
putting
you on the spot as our newest newbie, is there
something you feel would
really help get
you up
to speed?
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Ms. Nakea: I believe what David just mentioned would be really, really useful for me, but I'm
concerned that it would be redundant for everyone else; I'm not sure. And even what
Commissioner Schneider was talking about sounds very, very useful, also, and I would appreciate
it.
Ms. Griiiin: Honey G rl, do you have comments?
Ms. Hoomanawanui: No, not really.
Ms. Griffin: Okay.
Ms. Hoomanawanui: Not on that.
Ms. Griffin: Kalei?
Ms. Arinaea: I think it would be a great idea.
Mr. Helder: Does Historic Hawaii have a double package that does historic preservation
responsibilities, as well as opportunities to install buildings on the list?
Ms.
Schneider.
Yeah, they
were terrific. The one that we...you
went as well, and it was here in
LTIm' e, and we
got to work
in groups.
Ms. Griffin: When David and I first joined the KHPRC in 2001, the Planning Department was
members of a group called the National Alliance of Preservation Commissions, NAPC, and I don't
think I'm overstepping my bounds to say that he and I were very vocal that if we were going to do
the job that we had just sworn to do, we needed specific training. The Department brought in a
man from the NAPC called Jack Williams, and he was very ... first of all, how to deal with the
questions in the meetings, and then the Secretary of Interior's standards, and how to judge it. And
we saw much the same last year, Kaaina, Ian Jung, Danita Ain, a few... Victoria Wichman went to
Kona last year, and he, again, was there with two (2) others; it was a 2-day thing. So I think there
are people around who can help make that training. Depending on how long everybody has, what
kind of monies there are, it could be one (1) day or two (2) days and have both components, but I
appreciate your, Deatri, malting a statement about what would help you get up to speed as quickly
as possible.
Mr.
Helder:
So was that a possibility we
could explore
of having something done
here? Or if
there is something
being given elsewhere,
take the people
who really need it and get
them there.
Ms. Griffin: Let's make a motion on what the ideal training is, and then the mechanics can get
figured out by what the money is, and what we can do.
Mr.
Helder:
Okay. I move that we advocate fora 2-part training for individuals joining this
Board
that
includes
responsibilities for
members of Historic Preservation Review Commissions, as well
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as activities that those Commissioners can involve themselves in, and putting historic buildings
and neighborhoods on the register, as a 2-part thing.
Ms. Griffin: Is there a second?
Ms. Schneider: I second the mot on.
Ms. Griffin: Thank you. It's been moved by Mr. Helder and seconded by Ms. Schneider,
and... I'm going to need help with that motion... that we have a 2-part program for those who need
it discussing what preservation is and how to approach it, and the second part being actually putting
structures on the National Register,
Mr. Helder: Yes.
Ms.
Griftln:
further
discussion?
Hearing none.
All in favor? (Unanimous voice vote) Opposed?
(None) The
motion
carries 6:0.
And
I am
assuming that
will
give you enough to work
with and massage, and
I'm
also
assuming
that
when
David Helder
said
in the motion that all who
needed it, he meant all
nine
(9)
of us.
Mr. Hull: I think everybody in the room. (Laughter in background)
Mr.
Helder:
It's
true. (Laughter in background)
Because you forget. You do. You learn it, and
then
you forget
and you start to relax.
Ms. Griffin: "That's right. Don't hesitate to open it up to the Department of Public Works and
other County personnel. And Julian Helder. We can open it up to h m; although David Helder's
son just graduated with his Master's Degree in Planning with a component in Historic Preservation.
Livelong and propser. Okay, and thank you, again, for letting me move around just a little on this.
The 2016 funding. Do you want to tallc about that today?
Mr. Hull: The 2016 funding...we're still working because there was a,proposal that was given to
this body by somebody from the Department of Parks in a potential project, so we want to get a
little bit more details from them. It preliminary sounded like a good project, and we right now
have as much information as they gave at the stand during that Commission meeting, so we'll get
some more information from them. If it looks like there may be partnership that can be done with
the Department of Parks, we'll be moving forward in recommending that. If not, then looking at
other projects, but we do realize that the timeline is very tight for the 2016 projects as well. So we
hope to be coming back to you at the next meeting with a proposal.
Ms. Griffin: "Thank you so much.
COMMISSION EDUCATION
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Re: Review of Article 14 of Chapter 8 of the Kauai County Code 1987, as amended,
(Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance) regarding the Kauai Historic Preservation Review
Commission and its Interaction in the Historic Preservation Review Process Pursuant to
Hawaii Revised Statutes Chapter 6E.
Ms. Griffin: Commission Education. The review of our ordinance.
Mr. Hull: We are going to set up the projector to do that right now.
Ms. Gr ffin: Thank you. So we'll take a br of recess.
The Commission recessed at 3:54 p.m.
The Commission reconvened at 3:59 p.m.
Ms. Griffin: I'll call the meeting back to order.
Mr. Hull: Thanks, Chair. We'll try not to keep you folks too much longer, but somewhat to what
Commissioner Helder was discussing, the need to kind of ... for some of the newer
Commissioners ... go over some of the basic fundamentals of the duties, responsibilities, and
background of this body, and then for some of the senior Commissioners to kind of primer on
returning to the basic fundamentals.
So the role of the Kauai Historic Preservation Review Commission. We'll be going over the
purpose, the framework of local preservation, and ultimately the historic preservation review
process. And then after going through those, which was kind of the background for preservation
as a whole in the Country and then here in Hawai `i, then we'll actually get into the bit more of the
nitty-gritty of the actual ordinance that you folks are tasked with handling, and the roles of
Commissioners individually.
So the purpose. Starting off first with the ordinance, under Article 14 of the Comprehensive
Zoning Ordinance, the KHPRC is convened with nine (9) members, four (4) of those members are
appointed by the Mayor, four (4) are appointed by Council, and one (1) is appointed by this body
itself. We lay out, kind of four (4) specific purposes that this Commission has. The first one is
really the overarching mission of this Commission, which is to protect, preserve, perpetuate,
promote, enhance, and develop historic resources of the County of Kauai. The following three
(3) are essentially the ways in which we do that. The first one is maintaining... or first creating
and then maintaining that historic inventory survey that we have, which identifies historic
properties/historic structures. The ultimate criteria... and you guys will be getting into more as we
discuss the upcoming inventory... the ultimate criteria for this survey is whether or not it is eligible
and ready to be nominated for the State and National Historic Preservation lists. The criteria for
those are essentially established by the Secretary of the Interior who has specific standards for
historic structures. We'll get into Secretary of the Interior and the National Historic Preservation
Act soon. The third one is in conjunction with maintaining the inventory system; actually taking
properties from the inventory list and this body itself recommending them for nomination to those
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two (2) registers. We haven't done one in a while. We have come close a few times within the
past few years, but those have kind of fallen by the wayside. The Department is working with
another agency to potentially get one of their buildings. We went through, as a body, this past
year at looking at four (4) or five (5) structures here in Uhu`e that we could possibly look at
recommending to be nominated to the State and National Register. We are working with the
property owners on those potential nominations. As you folks know, sometimes property owners
are a little bit averse to allowing their properties to be placed upon that list because of some
leeriness on the additional regulations that may be required. But, we are working with them for
them to understand the importance, the significance, as well as the benefits, particularly for, say,
taxation purposes that they can have from being on those registers. And the final one, which this
body is fairly well tuned and efficient at is assuring that new development and structures and their
alterations are compatible with the historic character of the respective structure or site. So that's
something, I think, everybody's gotten used to is that properties or structures that attempt to get
building permits for changes or demolition, if they are found to be either on our inventory or over
fifty (50) years old, our Department forwards them over to you folks to review and mitigate those
potential impacts. In that responsibility, this body is advisory to the acting agency or authority.
So for the smaller level permits, the single-family dwellings' alterations or demolitions, the acting
agency is the Planning Department, and so this body advises the Planning Department on possible
mitigation measures that they will have should structural changes be proposed for a historic
structure. If the permit is of a much higher intense use and requires things like use permits or
special management area permits, the Planning Commission has the authority on those permits,
and you folks, essentially, review in an advisory capacity to advise the Planning Commission [sic]
on potential mitigation measures that they should place on the proposal in order to ensure that the
historic character is maintained or kept. And those are the four (4) primary duties or purposes of
the Commission.
Jodi's
chomping at the bit
to... (Laughter in background)
She thought there was another one.
Yeah.
Jodi's going to go over
the specific duties that are laid
out in the ordinance, wh ch is actually
at the
end of the slideshow.
(Laughter in background)
So the framework for local preservation. You folks have an array of different resources at your
disposal when revealing projects, when looking at various programs to institute. The first one
would be the Advisory Council on Historic Preservation. Before I get into the advisory council, I
want to take a step back. If we Look at preservation here in this Country, the overriding legislation
that kind of dictates or runs the day is the National Historic Preservation Act, which was passed
back in the 60's in which an array of, .Iwell, it was recognized that America needed to preseive
many of its cultural sites, its structural sites, its archaeological sites, and in that Act, essentially,
the United States Congress gave the Department of Interior, particularly under the Parks
Department, to run a historic preservation program in which the Secretary... an array of different
things were happening, but one of the primary things that was established was to allow the
Secretary of Interior to establish a register list, that National Historic Register list, and the
standards upon which a structure or site or place could be nominated to that list, as well as a
framework under which States themselves could initiate preservation programs and be a part of
the Federal program, and then ultimately coming down to what we've become to known as
Certified Local Governments to allow for the distribution of Federal funds to aid particular areas
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that have adopted historic programs in their preservation causes. Sounder this framework is where
we get the funds when we talk about funds to dispense to create an inventory list, funds to have
training for you folks, funds for potential brick and mortar restoration projects. The reason you
folks have access to it is because the County of Kauai has adopted a certified preservation program
that adheres to the standards of the National Historic Preservation Act and therefore allows us
access to these funds. We still have to qualify for them. Another part of that Act is actually it
established this Advisory Council on Historic Preservation that advises both the United States
Congress and the President on preservation tactics, preservation strategies, and potential programs
to institute to aid in the preservation process. They have various resources, as far as contacting,
outreaching to them, as far as educational potentials and partnerships. That is one resource that
we, as a Department, and you folks, as Commissioners, have at your disposal. The second one is
the National Park Service, which, like I said, going into the discussion of the Historic Preservation
Act, is the agency installed with (1) divvying out those CLG funds for us to implement our
preservation program, as well as maintaining the register list, the Historic Preservation Register
list, and the standards under which properties or structures are nominated to that list. So under the
Historic Preservation Act, as I said, it laid out a process under which States themselves could adopt
preservation programs. Here in Hawaii we have our State Historic Preservation Office under the
Department of Land and Natural Resources, and they are specifically tasked with preservation
under Hawaii Revised Statutes Section 6E, which lays out their duties and responsibilities, as far
as providing assistance to the Counties in our preservation programs, as well as maintaining a State
Historic Register list much in the same way that the National Historic Register list is maintained.
So, often you folks see the SHPD folks here, that's Anna Broverman and Kaimi folks, who will
sit in the back and sometimes testify on the various resources and partnerships that they can do
with us to promote our preservation program. And the last is the National Trust for Historic
Preservation, which is actually a private entity that was created by Congress in order to acquire
and maintain historic sites. I don't ... Pat, do you know if we have any National Trust sites here in
Hawaii? I don't know if we...
Ms. Griffin: I can't think of one
Mr. Hull: They are prominent throughout the east coast, given much of the east coast historic
lineage in American History, but they are...like I said, I don't think they have done any projects
here in Hawaii, but there is a potential for this private entity to come in if a particular site,
structure, area is deemed of national significance, and for them to expend funds to acquire it, and
then, later on, to maintain it in its historic form.
Oh, sorry. This goes through everything that I just kind of talked about. (Laughter in background)
Our former attorney, Ian Jung, actually came up with this, so this is kind of all that I was talking
about. And Ian, somewhat strangely, being the attorney, decided to talk about the resources
available before talking about law, which is kind of strange for an attorney. (Laughter in
background) But this all stems from the National Historic Preservation Act.
Ms. Griffin: May I just add something here? This year, the National Historic Preservation Act
turns fifty (50) years old. It was put into law by Congress in 1966, and I'm hoping the State ... were
you just going to say that? Oh, good. I'm hoping that SHPD will write articles or somebody will
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get that word out, and this no turns thirty pu) years old this year. That's also, I believe, worth
some celebration and dissemination. Thanks.
Mr. Hull: And to add to that... and Jodi was tapping on me because I was giving a little history
lesson earlier before... actually, the National Historic Preservation Act was passed in 1966 under
the Johnson Administration, but it was actually initiated under the Kennedy Administration. And
much in part of the preservation efforts of our Country were initiated under the Kennedy
Administration because of the works of the First Lady who, upon coming into the White House,
saw some of the furniture and art and whatnot in disrepair, and started looking at the preservation
of it, and it would go on later to expand beyond the White House to Lafayette Square, which is
around the White House area, to preserve and renew that area. The individual, if you've read Ms.
Griffin's recent book, the individual architect was actually tasked with redesigning Lafayette
Square and looked at was one of the primers of preservation here in America. That individual, the
same year that this Act was passed, actually drafted and was completed the Lihu`e Plantation
Master Plan, so our connection to Preservation America is just ... it's a three -degree separation; it
was very close though. It's a neat thing.
Ms. Griffin: Just on the State Capitol.
Mr. Hull: Correct, correct. So it's something...FYL..afun fact. (Laughter in background)
So both the State Constitution and State Plan recognize and encourage the preservation of historic
and cultural resources, which is why, essentially, the State Historic Preservation Division of DLNR
was created. And that goes into 6E, which I was kind of explaining earlier. Sorry. I wasn't too
aware of how Ian laid this out. But yeah, again, just to reiterate, 6E... so if you look at the
framework ... I'm going to go a little bit pass this and we can do this a little bit more colloquially.
So if you look at the framework in which, legally, preservation has been set up, the National
Historic Preservation Act was passed in Congress in 1966, and it ultimately sets those Federal
standards. The Park Service is the primary agency for administering that program. Second to that
is the State process, which is set up under 6E, and the preservation efforts and regulations were
established in 6E and they are maintained by State Historic Preservation Division. And then when
we follow suit, the ... like I said, it looks at historic properties, as Ian is pointing out in this, burial
sites, aviation artifacts are particularly important under 6E. It lays out very specific standards
under which they should be reviewed. Under 6E, any building or structure that is over fifty (50)
years old is technically historic and requires historic review. When Ian created this PowerPoint,
it was a little bit before recent State legislative action in which the State Legislature in the past
session actually amended this rule to state that it's only applicable to non-residential structures that
are fifty (50) years or older, so it essentially allows residential structures older than fifty (50) years
old to bypass your review now; that's under State law. There are certain ways in which in
reviewing these structures, the Department has the discretion, still, to forward them to you, and we
are working on ways that we can do that, the County, as well as that new inventory list that is being
drafted up will help to somewhat mitigate this bypass that was done by the Leg. in the sense that
if it's on the inventory list in particular, regardless if its fifty (50) years or not under the Leg.'s
new rule, if it's on the inventory, it would be required to come to you folks for your review and
input onto it. That's why, in particular, the inventory list is so important. It is seen as one way in
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which structures or sites can be nominated, and that s the primary intent of that list, but secondary
to that is to ensure that this body, should any changes be made to that property or structure, can
review these sites. DLNR has Administrative Rules that lay out specific steps in which you
identify a historic property, identify what changes are being made, what type of mitigative acts can
be done to ensure that the historic integrity is maintained, and then executing that, essentially, and
so this body has gotten used to it.
Administrator Furfaro left the meeting at 4:18 p.m.
Mr. hull: Commissioner Nakea, the way that it often plays out is if a historic structure is proposed
to be altered, it comes before this body, we'll look at it to see whether or not it is of historical
significance. If it's on the inventory list, more than likely we can automatically say it has historical
significance. We identify what changes are being proposed to that structure, and if they are going
to impact the historical significance of the structure. If there is going to be an impact, what type
of mitigative measures can be done in order to ensure that the historic integrity is maintained.
Somewhat controversially at times, if the applicant comes before this body, and I know you guys
have gotten used to it, is that they say there is no way it can be maintained, and so the
recommendation has been, from SHPD, to photograph and catalog, essentially, that site, but there
are some situations in which it is established that while there will be historical significant impacts
by demolition or removal, that in some situations it cannot be saved. So the 6Eprocess also creates
the Hawaii Historic Places Review Board, which functions in the saine manner that ... the
Department of the Interior has a Board that reviews the potential properties for the National
Register. This Board will ... it reviews those properties for the State Register, and like I said, we
hope to have one in the next year or two. It would be nice for this body to send one up and we are
working as hard as we can to find a willing landowner because I think as we all have gotten used
to the idea that the register lists are, in fact, wonderful things that function to preserve our built
environment, the reality is that if you have an unwilling landowner, often times the end result of
that is that it cannot ... I'll just say legal concerns arise as to whether or not you can put it on the
list. And more often than not, we've been met with unwilling landowners, but hopefully we'll
work to change the tide of that.
We're about to get into Article 14, so I'll turn it over to Jodi.
Ms. Flieuchi-Sayegusa: Okay, so Article 14 under the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance contains
five (5) sections. First is the purpose that Kaaina went over in the first slide; overarching purpose.
Two, Kauai Historic Preservation Review Commission. This section kind of goes into the
mechanics of how you folks are here, and how to conduct meetings, etc. I'm sorry, the
composition. This section is related to the composition of this Committee. Three, powers and
duties of the Commission, which I'll go over in detail on the next slide. Four, talks about how
often you folks must meet, or the minimum amount of meetings you must meet, and that you folks
have to conduct and hold hearings in accordance with Chapter 91 or rule -malting, which as Kaaina
mentioned earlier in the meeting, we are working on some rules to kind of give an overarching
guidance in how to conduct meetings, and clarify how many votes are required for a certain action,
etc. And the fifth section just talks about, basically, the funding sources that being the Federal
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Historic Preservation Grant. We also talked a little bit earlier about the CLG. Okay, we'll move
on.
So,powers and duties. I'm just going to put them all up for now. There are quite a number of
enumerated duties and powers of this body. First is to adopt criteria, standards, and procedures
for the identification of historic resources, and to prepare a countywide inventory of such. Second,
to maintain a system for the survey and inventory of historic resources within the County. Thirdly,
to review and recommend to the State Historic Preservation officer those historic resources which
should be for submittal to the keeper of the National Register. So, again, the first two (2) is
identification and a system for inventory for the countywide list. Also, the function is obviously
to make recommendations for the National Register. The fourth bullet point, to administer the
Local Certified Government program of Federal Assistance for historic preservation within the
County of Kauai. The last bullet, to prepare and implement a comprehensive Countywide Historic
Preservation Planning Process consistent and coordinated with the Statewide Comprehensive
Historic Preservation Planning Process. Another duty of this body is to advise and assist Federal,
State, and County government agencies in carrying out their historic preservation responsibilities.
I think this one is pretty key and generates a lot of agenda items when... for instance, State, with
their big projects, bridges for instance, comes and seeks the advice and recommendations of this
body. So Federal projects, State and County agencies seek your advice on how to carry out the
responsibilities. The next bullet point, to provide public information and education relating to
National, State, and County historic preservation programs. Again, this is a forum where a lot of
this education to the public ... it's an interface with the public and a key opportunity resource for
the public on education. Third bullet, to assist the Planning Commission to develop standards and
guidelines applicable to uses of historic resources and uses proposed within historic districts or
neighborhoods, and to otherwise advise the Planning Commission in all matters affecting historic
resources. Again, another key role where Planning Commission and the various projects that they
oversee seek advice of this body. For instance, most recently was the clock tower. The next bullet,
to obtain, within limits of funds appropriated, the services of qualified persons and organizations
to direct, advise, and assist the Commission and to obtain the equipment, supplies, and other
materials necessary to its effective operation. And the last is to promulgate rules and regulations
pursuant to 91 to carry out the functions in accordance with this article. So again, as we mentioned,
we've been working on rules to kind of help assist in the functioning of the business with this
body, and you will get a chance to review that shortly.
So the overarching obligations of this body is at least once quarterly, you folks must meet, and
within fifteen (15) days of such meetings, if there is an item that the Planning Commission
specifically referred to this body for consideration, you folks must forward any comments or
recommendations within fifteen (15) days after this meeting.
The only other Thing that I wanted to kind of mention, it's not a bullet point here, but because this
is a State...considered a Board and Commission, we must abide by HRS Chapter 92, Sunshine
Law. So anything related to Board business or a function of the Commission has to be engaged in
an open meeting setting; that's basically the overarching purpose of Chapter 92, Sunshine Law, is
to require that meetings of the County or other government entities are open to the public,
accountability and the opportunity for the public to weigh in, also. Generally, any Board business
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must be reserved... discussions must be reserved for our meetings. There are certain exceptions.
There's three (3) of which I think are most applicable to this body. They are referred to as
permitted interactions, and so two (2) Board members can talk about Board business outside of a
scheduled meeting; however, no commitments of how to vote or, you know, should be promised.
I think, in general, you should probably just reserve discussion for the meetings. The other two
(2) are in the cases of if you folks form a PIG, the Permitted Interaction Group, where you were
given the responsibility to go out and conduct an investigation within a scope determined by you
folks during an open meeting, and then to come back and report back to the Committee. And the
third is just presentations and discussions... I'm sorry ... for the PIG and also for this, for the
presentations and discussions, two (2) or more, but less than the quorum, which is, in this case,
four (4) because we have nine (9) members; up to four (4) can be convened to (1) do an
investigation, or (2) to attend presentations or give presentations or discuss any matter, and then
report back to the body. But that's basically all of it.
Ms.
Nakea:
I have a
question. So
if the Commission proposes to
form a
PIG and it's in front of
the open forum, can
they object?
Can the public object in the...
They
could object to a PIG,
basically, is what I'm
asking.
Ms.
Higuchi-Saye�usa:
Yeah. All of these
actions occur in public, and
the public
can testify and
weigh in, and you
folks
can consider that in
the forming of
such groups.
Mr. Hull: I'll just say in closing, I think that Commissioner Helder's comments concerning, you
know, what are the duties and what's the core function of this body, and overall it is ultimately
preservation. It is laid out in those eight (8) or nine (9) points of Section 14 of the Comprehensive
Zoning Ordinance. In having discussions with Commissioner Nakea yesterday and briefing her
before she starts on this body, it appears in my assessment that we've kind of gotten very efficient
at some things, and we are kind of trying to figure out our place in other areas. I think, to a certain
degree, when we look at our review of historic properties and potential changes to them, the body
seems to pretty well know, and the Department knows, how to handle these reviews and these
applications. I think, to a certain degree, we could apply more standards and clearer standards.
Perhaps even wrapping in the Secretary of Interior standards in our own assessment of whether or
not these modifications should be made might be appropriate. But that seems to be fairly clear, as
far as our obligations and duties ... or your obligations and duties, and our staffing responsibilities
to you for that. I will also be upfront in that we are noticing that in the other program management
of preservation here on Kauai, we've gotten new and much more active direction and roles by
SHPD, which is wonderful to have, but we are all kind of right now trying to figure out where we
move forward with the rest of the program aside from just reviewing properties. We want to do
these nominations, we want to do brick and mortar projects, we want to do promotion of getting
properties on the list or promotion of preservation programs, but how do we move forward? And
I think we are still all working through with that and I just want to convey a gratitude and thanks
for participating in this process, but also just to bear with us as we begin to navigate. What does
seem to be a bit more newer territory with some of the resources available and some of the staffing
and insight that we are getting from SHPD, and don't get me wrong, it's wonderful insight that
they are taking a much more active role, but I think we are all trying to figure out our (inaudible),
too, Commissioner Helder. In that sense, we are working forward, but it's going to be ... I think
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Commissioner
Nakea put
it
the best when her
response
was it sounds frustrating and exciting at
the same time.
(Laughter
in
background) Are
there any
other questions?
Ms. Higuchi-Sage usa: Or anything we missed?
Mr. Hull: at can correct us on anything we missed. (Laughter in background)
Ms. Griffim There's a summary page at the end.
Mr. Hull: Yeah, this is what we covered.
Ms. Griffin: Well, thank you two very, very much. We can't hear that often enough and go
through. When you really read the ordinance and see what our duties are, it's intimidating actually
when you see the breath of expectation as written in our ordinance. So I appreciate you all helping
us out on that overview.
SELECTTON OF NEXT MEETING DATE AND AGENDA TOPICS
Re: Selection of 2016 meeting dates.
Ms. Griffin: We have come down to K, Selection of Next Meeting Date and Agenda Topics. As
I mentioned before, last month we talked a little with the SHPD folks about separating the date
and time of our...their or our meetings, but we only have control over our meeting. So we do not
have to change, we can remain the first Thursday of the month. The Staff had found that the only
other date that we have a room available is the fourth Thursday. So what is this body's pleasure
in terms of sticking with the way we are doing it now, first Thursday of the month? Or changing
our meeting days?
Ms. Hoomanawanui: Change it. Yeah, first aFthe month. Change it.
Mr. Helder: I didn't hear.
Ms. Schneider: Change it?
Mr. Helder: Change it?
Ms. Hoomanawanui: Yeah.
Ms. Arinaga: I would say keep it to what we have now, but I can go anyway.
Ms. Schneider: Keeping the one we have now works for me, but that's up to you. If it has to
change, it has to change.
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Mr, Hull: Let me just interject and to get to the bottom of it. Like the Chair pointed out, it was to
accommodate SHPD being that they have the same meeting to attend on Maui, and they have to
split resources or split times when they come here. So being that they want to take, as previously
discussed, the much more active role with our various Commissions on the islands, we wanted to
see if we could accommodate them coming. At the end of the day though, the most important
thing is that you folks are able to attend the meeting, so that's the first priority. If you folks aren't
able to the meeting, that's when I'll make sure that you are all able to attend, and then secondary
to that is having the SHPD Staff attend.
Ms. Griffin: And one of the things that SHPD, the State Historic Preservation Division, has set
up ... the Architecture Branch, Kaimi Yoon and Anna, but Mary Jane Naone, our Kauai
Archaeologist, has also been sitting in, is they are establishing monthly conference calls with our
Staff, the Chair, whoever it's about to be for 2016, and folks from the Maui and Hawaii Island
Commissions. So they are reaching out in other ways besides having their physical bodies here,
so there are other ways that they are communicating as well. I think at this point, maybe we can
get a motion for one or the other, and then talk it out and go to a vote.
Mr. Helder. I move that we change the dates to accommodate State participation over here.
Ms. Griffin: Is there a second?
Ms. Schneider: I'll second.
Ms. Griffin: IYs been moved by Mr. I Ielder and seconded Uy Ms. Schneider to move our meeting
dates to the fourth Thursday of the month to accommodate the State personnel in attending our
meetings. Okay. Further discussion on...?
Mr. Helder: Yes. One of the things that we've had difficulty with all these years is the interaction
between State and the County. The communication has often gotten astray. Whenever we had
stuff that we wanted to bring up, especially about funding, it was difficult to interact with them,
and I think anything that we can do to tighten that up so that they have more opportunity to come
and participate in our actions, I think, is a beneficial thing. I'm able to make these dates. If you
can, that would be great.
Ms. Griffin: Further discussion? Yes, Kalei.
Ms. Arinaga:
My only concern would
be, are
they committed to all of these dates? Say we
switched it and
went by these
dates, will
they be
here?
Mr.
Helder:
That's always a good question.
(Laughter in background) I
don't know. But if this
is what they
are proposing would solve some
of the problems, then I'd be
willing to try it.
Ms. Schneider: Me too.
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Ms. Griffin: Funding will have to ... maybe Hawaiian Air can help them out. Other discussion?
Hearing none. All in favor? (Unanimous voice vote) Opposed? (None) The motion carries 6:0.
So now the question is, do we want to meet again at the end of this month? The 28t1' of January is
when it would be. Or do we want to wait until February? I suggest that in part because of
the ... yes?
Mr. Hull: To interject, the room isn't ava Table on that Thursday.
Ms. Griffin: The room is not available?
Mr. Hull: Yes. The schedule we're giving you is with the anticipation that the next meeting will
be in February. But if you guys wanted to have another meeting in January, you could
essentially... Jodi, I'm going to ask for your legal opinion on this. Could they defer it to a later
January meeting without setting a specific date? And then we get a room or the time when this is
available. Or you have to set the specific date on the deferral?
Ms. Hiauchi-Sa�gl sa: I'm sorry. Deferral on the very next date?
Mr. Hull: Well, no, yeah. If there's the...well, not a deferral. It's not a deferral. IY s just a...
Ms. Higuchi-Say�usa: No, I mean, that's just...
Mr. Hull: We would just be calling a meeting...
Ms. Higuchi-Sa��u a: Yeah. As long as we have the agenda...
Mr. Hull: Posted, yeah.
Ms. Higuchi-Savegusa: Posted seven (7) days prior to the meeting.
Mr. Helder: Do we need a meeting on the 281h? And if it's only about this thing that the State is
proposing on the bridges that would be the only reason we would hold a meeting, then we might
as well address that now, and just go with the later meeting.
Ms. Griffin: Do you know, Myles or Kaaina, of any permit request or other businesses of that
nature coming up?
Staff Planner Myles Hironaka: As of this date, we don't have any other applications waiting.
However, from now until say in a couple of weeks, we could have an application and we could
also put that on the agenda for this Commission to review.
Ms. Griffin: Okay, because that would be seven (7) weeks and sometimes we end up not having
that much time.
Mr. Hironaka: Right.
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Ms.
Griffin:
Then, possibly, if something comes up,
would it be possible
to
notify the Commission
and
ask for
a meeting prior to February 25a' without
having to deal with
it
now?
Mr. Hull: Yes. The Departnent can do that.
Ms. Griffin: Okay. So as it stands, we will move to the fourth Thursdays of the month beginning
February 25"i, 3 o'clock, here.
Mr.
Helder:
No, no. That's
what I'm
trying to say we can avoid. Because if that coincides with
this
other meeting with the
State on
the bridges...
Ms. Griffin: Right.
Mr. Helder: We are trying to rearrange that particular meeting. We were suggesting moving it to
January 28"', so we wouldn't have to have the conflict. If we don't have to have the meeting on
the 28a', perhaps we can eliminate the one on February 25"', attend the bridges meeting, and meet
the next meeting on March 24"'. However, if something comes up that needs to be dealt with, we
can schedule another meeting; it doesn't have to be within January. It could be within February.
Can we do it that way?
Ms. Griffin: Let's assume right now that the DOT meeting won't be at 3 o'clock, and move on,
and that will be subject to change if we get some (inaudible) message from Puhi, Department of
Transportation Office. If that's acceptable to everybody, we will keep the status quo, which is
February 25th at 3 (o'clock), unless other business requires us to meet before that.
Mr. Hull: So to be clear, Chair, then for the upcoming agenda, be a sooner one or the February
25r one, we'll be agendizing the letter from DOT requesting representation.from KHPRC, and at
that time, this body can discern whether or not they will appoint an official or attend as individual
Commissioners. Just for clarification.
Mr. Helder: Yes.
Mr. Hull: That's the plan? Okay.
Ms.
Griffin:
Okay. We were going
to go back and discuss that
after we got
the meeting dates
settled, but that sounds acceptable. Is
everyone totally confused?
(Laughter in
background)
Ms. Nakea: Could you say that one (1) more time?
Mr. IIull: Okay, so the problem that was coming into play with setting a later meeting date is that
the DOT request was for KHPRC to participate in their forum. Their date for that meeting is
February 25th; we don't have a time. If this body ... and there are two (2) different options,
essentially, for individual members to attend in their individual capacity, which would require no
action from this body and that's fine going out from here today. But if this body wished to appoint
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a specific representative to speak on behalf of this body, it can't take that action today because it
hasn't been agendized.
Ms. Nalcea: Oh, okay
Mr. Hull: So in order for an appointment of an official spokesperson, we would have to wait until
the next meeting where its agendized, and you guys could take a vote on appointing that
spokesperson. As I get right now, the hope is that the DOT time will come out around 5/5:30 for
their meeting; at 3 o'clock you folks will have your meeting, and decide whether or not you are
going to appoint a person to speak on your behalf.
Ms. Griffin: Regardless, would Staff please take it upon themselves to notify us of the time once
it becomes available? And I really hope that several fellow Commissioners will be able to attend
it.
SELECTION OF 2016 CIIAII2PERSON AND VICE CHAIRPERSON
Ms. Griffin: We have one (1) more item of business, and that is the selection of the 2016 Chair
and Vice Chair of this Commission. I will entertain nominations at this time.
Ms. Schneider: I nominate Pat to stay as Chair. (Laughter in background)
Ms. Arina>?a: I' 11 second that nomination.
Ms. Griffin: Aren't you all sweet, but I think that our County Charter would not let that happen.
Ms. Arinaaa: I nominate Anne.
Mr. Helder. I second it.
Ms. Griffin: Are there other nominations? It's been moved and seconded that Anne Schneider be
our KHpRC Chairperson for 2016. All in favor? (Unanimous voice vote) Opposed? Hearing
none. Motion carries 6:0. Madam. (Laughter in background)
Ms. Schneider: Well, I nominate Pat to be Vice Chair. I'm sure I can't do as good a job as she
Ms. Griffin: You laiow, I think there are other people sitting around this table who deserve the
opportunity to have that role, and I thank you. I'm very honored by your show of trust for what
I've done this year.
Ms. Schneider: Well, I nominate David Helder for Vice Chair.
Ms. Arina>?a: I second.
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Mr. Helder: I have only one (1) comment. I will be gone for three (3) months beginning April 1st
and then I will be gone again in the fall for three (3) months, so six (6) months, so you'll have half
a year without a Vice Chair. If you're happy with that, okay, but I would rather see somebody
with, you know, the Chair with more support.
Ms. Griffin: I would like to make another nomination and that is for Kalei Arinaga.
Ms. Schneider: I second the motion.
Ms.
Griffin:
You can't.
(Laughter in
background)
We're not quite used to yet to our changed
roles here.
(Laughter in
background)
Ms.
AT1naQa:
Can I think
about this?
Because I reshuffled my schedule, and now I have to go
back and un-reshuffle
that
schedule to
meet the new schedule.
Mr. Helder: Sounds like historic preservation to me. (Laughter in background)
Ms. Higuchi-Sayegusa: We still haven't received a second though.
Mr. Helder: I second it.
Ms. Arinaga: What was...?
Ms. Higuchi-Sage usa: We just needed a second, and then we can move into discussion.
Mr. Hull: I think to interject, Jodi, and maybe you can weigh in, Commissioner Arinaga is asking,
essentially, can they defer this action?
Ms. Arina^a: Yeah.
Ms. Higuchi-Saye�I sa So perhaps maybe a motion to...you would like to receive a motion to
defer this item.
Ms. Griffin: I move that we defer the election of our Vice Chair to the February 25`s meeting.
Mr Helder:
Second.
Ms. Schneider: All in favor? (Unanimous voice vote) (Laughter in background)
Ms. Higuchi-Sayegusa: It doesn't seem like there are any objections.
Ms.
Schneider:
No
objections.
So we will (inaudible). Motion carries 6:0. We will see you all
on February 25t�
at
3 o'clock.
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ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 4:47 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Darcie Agaran
Commission Support Clerk
747 AMANA STREET, SUITE 216
HONOLULU, HAWAII 96814
PHONE (808) 945-7882
FAX(808)946-2563
Kauai Historic Preservation Commission
c/o County of Kauai Planning Department
4444 Rice Street, Suite A473
Lihu'e, Kauai 96766
Re: Former Kauai Police Station Demolition
3060 Umi Street
TMK: 34402: 005 & 022
Dear Commission Members:
tb FEB _8 '111 :M
2/8/2016
The State of Hawaii is proposing to demolish the former Kauai Police Station on Umi
Street and has retained our office to prepare the demolition drawings. We have
previously completed a building survey and assessment of the police station which was
submitted to the State Historic Preservation Department. The survey and assessment and
SHPD's response letter were delivered to Mr. Myles Hironaka of the Kauai Planning
Department earlier this month. We respectfully request the Kauai Historic Preservation
Commission review the survey and assessment and SHPD's response, We also request to
be on the agenda for the next Commission meeting on February 25. 1 will be available to
attend the meeting to briefly outline the scope of the demolition project and to answer
questions. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
Paul Tonaki
Architect
FORMER KAUAI POLICE STATION
BUILDING SURVEY AND ASSESSMENT
DAGS JOB NO. 64-10-0716
T.M.K.: 3-6-002: 005
LIHUE, KAUAI, HAWAII
DEPARTMENT OF ACCOUNTING AND GENERAL SERVICES
PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION
STATE OF HAWAII
APRIL, 2015
MITSUNAGA &ASSOCIATES INC.
FORMER KAUAI POLICE STATION
BUILDNG SURVEY AND ASSESSMENT
DAGS JOB NO. 64-10-0716
Architectural Survey and Assessment
I. Building History and Design
II. Existing Building Conditions
III, State Building Code Analysis
V. Kauai Comprehensive Zoning Code Requirements
V. Summary and Conclusions
VI. Drawings and Photographs
Structural Survey and Assessment
I. Project Description
II. Building Description
III. Existing Building Conditions
V. Photographs
Mechanical Survey and Assessment
I. Scope of Work
II, Mechanical Systems
III. Recommendations
V. Existing Layout & Photos
Electrical Survey and Assessment
I. Scope of Work
II. Electrical Systems
III. Photos
Underground Storage Tanks File Review
I. Department of Health, Solid and Hazardous Waste Branch (SHWB) Files
II. Underground Storage Tank Closure Report, June 1999
III. Summary and Conclusions
ARCHITECTURAL SURVEY AND ASSESSMENT
I. BUILDING HISTORY AND DESIGN
The original Kauai Police Station was designed in 1951 by Guy Rothwell,
a local architect and engineer. The original building was a very simple
courtyard design with a central open-air courtyard surrounded by a
covered walkway and the interior spaces along the building perimeter (see
drawing #1). It was a design appropriate for Hawaii's tropical climate as it
maximized cross ventilation through all the rooms. There was a
renovation project in the late 1970s by Shizuo Oka to add floor area to the
Police Station. Oka's design converted the open-air courtyard into an
nterior space and effectively eliminated the cross ventilation through the
building (see drawing #4). The intent of the renovation project was to
maintain natural ventilation through the use of clerestory jalousie windows
n the enclosed courtyard. However the jalousie windows did not provide
enough air movement, the building became too warm, and air conditioning
wall units were added throughout the building. There remains a 1 inch
drop in the floor where the former covered walkway abuts the perimeter
building spaces. The enclosed central courtyard now stands in very poor
condition. Only the roof structure remains in good condition and can be
salvaged (see photo #1).
The original design was simple and functional. The exterior walls were
constructed of 12-inch and 8-inch wide CMU that is painted on both sides.
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The roof was framed with wood trusses and finished with 1 x6 T&G
decking and asbestos shingles (see drawing #2). The asbestos shingles
have since been replaced with wood shingles. The original windows
remain today and are single glazed, wood frame, projection windows with
a minimal amount of moulding detail on the mullions. The outer frames
are flush, S4S wood frame and trims (see drawing #3). The main entry
door has been completely over run with termites. The interior doors are
wood paneled or wood with full or half glass panels. The interior flooring
is vinyl or asbestos tile. The original canec ceiling remains as do the
original light fixtures which are surface mounted box fluorescent fixtures.
It is a very economical, straight forward building that could be built with
today's construction materials and methods. The simplicity and lack of
detail can be construed as characteristic of 1950's modernism that was
the prevalent architectural style at the time the Kauai Police Station was
built. There was definitely an emphasis on function and economy over
ornate style.
II. EXISTING BUILDING CONDITIONS
A. Foundation
1. The building foundation appears to be in good condition. There
are no visible signs of building settlement, no large cracks in the
walls or slabs, and no indication of walls or columns out of
plumb.
B. Walls
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Building Survey and Assessment
DAGS Job No. 64-10-0716
1. The exterior walls are constructed of 12-inch wide CMU at the
wall base and transitions to 8-inch wide CMU at the 3-foot level.
They are painted on both sides and are in good condition (see
photo #4).
2. Most of the interior walls are constructed of 4-inch wide CMU.
They are painted on both sides and are in good condition. The
remainder of the interior walls are framed gypsum board walls.
These walls have damage due to moisture, mold, abandoned
electrical boxes and general wear. The gypsum board needs to
be replaced on all framed walls (see photo #5).
C. Ceiling
1. The ceilings in the office spaces are canec with a paint finish.
Canec is known to contain arsenic and should be removed if the
building is re -occupied.
2. The ceiling over the former courtyard is the exposed wood
structure and roof decking. It is in good condition and would
only need re -finishing in the event of a building renovation. The
light fixtures and ceiling fans are worn and dated and need
replacement.
C. Roof
1. The roof shakes need to be removed and replaced. Many are
loose; some are missing or out of place and many are warped
and/or split (see photo #6). There are some areas where the
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eave fascia is rotted or has fallen on. There are no existing roof
gutters.
2. For the roof structure, see the structural report.
D. Windows
1. The original windows are still in place, however they are in very
poor condition. The typical window is divided into 10 separate
operable sections.of obscure glass. The operable sections
project out and the windows have a modernist industrial
character or appearance. All of the exterior windows are
currently boarded off at the building exterior. There are
numerous panes of glass that are cracked or missing. Some
window sections were retrofitted with an AC window unit. Those
sections are now boarded off with plywood (see photo #7).
There is a fair amount of termite damage to the window frames.
The windows do not meet today's energy code requirements.
2. The clerestory windows of Shizuo Oka's renovation project are
in very poor condition, do not meet the energy code and require
replacement.
E. Doors
1. The main entry door to the police station is a wood door with
decorative wood lattice work. However, the door is termite
eaten and far beyond repair (see photo #8).
2. Most of the other doors are in fair condition but need refinishing
and new hardware.
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F. Finishes
1. Most of the floor finishes are resilient floor tiles. They are very
old and worn down. Some rooms have 9x9 asbestos tiles.
Should the building be renovated, all floor finishes would be
removed and replaced.
2. The walls and ceilings are painted and all need new paint in a
building renovation. There is a former judge's room with
laminate paneling on the walls (see photo #9). The appearance
of the paneling is dated and it would be removed if the building
is renovated.
G. Restrooms
1. The existing restrooms are not ADA accessible. Most of the
restroom walls are constructed of CMU. These walls would
have to be relocated and the plumbing below the slab on grade
re-routed in order to meet current ADA standards.
F. Carport/Storage Structure
1. There is a separate carport/storage structure on the southwest
side of the building. The CMU walls are in good condition and
only need to be repainted. The corrugated steel roof, purlins
and pipe beams are rusted substantially and require
replacement (see photo #10).
111 STATE BUILDING CODE ANALISYS
A. Floor Area:
Basement: 1,344 sf
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First Floor including
Carport and storage: 13,292 sf
Total: 14,636 sf
B. Existing Construction Type: VB (non fire rated wood construction)
C. Basic Allowable Floor Area: 9,000 sf per floor
1. Frontage increase:
The building has open space on all four sides of the building.
The width of each open space is 60 feet, 50 feet, 60 feet and 20
feet.
Weighted average of open space:
520
Area increase due to frontage:
(520'/520' —
0.25)28/30 =
0.70
1.70 x 9,000
sf = 15,300
sf
per floor
Type VB construction (wood) is allowable under the current
building code.
D. Occupancy Type: assume B (office)
E. Occupant Load:
First Floor: 13,292/100 sf per occupant = 133 occupants
Basement: 1,344/100 sf per occupant = 14 occupants
Total: 147 occupants
IV KAUAI COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE ZONING CODE REQUIREMENTS
A. Zoning: R-1, ST-P
Office use in these zoning districts will require a use permit
B. Required parking: 1 parking stall for every 200 sf of office floor area
14,636 sf/200 sf per stall = 74 stalls
Existing parking stalls on site: 69 stalls
C. Setback Requirements:
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Front Yard: 10 feet
Side Yard: 5 feet
Rear Yard: 10 feet
The existing building meets all setback requirements.
D. Height Limit:
20 feet from finished grade to the highest exterior wall plate line
30 feet to the highest point of the roof
The highest point of the existing roof is approximately 21 feet from
finished grade.
V SUMMARY AND CONCLUSIONS
A. Historical Significance
American architecture in the 1950s is classified as Modern and
characterized by rectilinear forms, flat roofs, clean lines and smooth
surfaces that are stripped of applied ornamentation. Although born
in the 1930s, the International Style was also prevalent in the
1950s. It was characterized by the use of concrete, glass and
steel, streamlined design, and a strong expression of building
materials. The Hamilton Building, designed by Wimberly and Cooke
in 1952 was an exemplary representation of International Style
Architecture in Hawaii (see photo #11). Unfortunately the Hamilton
Building was torn down in the late 1970s.
In terms of building form and use of materials, there is very little
that ties the former Kauai Police Station to the modern movement
of the 1950s. The building's lack of ornamentation is its only link to
modern architecture. The use of masonry walls and the wood
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framed, pitched roof is completely uncharacteristic of the modern
movement. The building design and detailing is very basic to the
extent that construction budget may have been the overriding
design constraint. Furthermore, the original tropical design concept
of the central courtyard and maximizing cross ventilation was
negated when the courtyard was converted into an interior space.
From a historical perspective, this building would not be considered
a valuable example of architectural design of its era.
B. Economic Considerations
As outlined throughout this report, the former Kauai Police Station
today stands in very poor condition. A building renovation will
require a complete gut of the building. Only the building structure
could be reclaimed. In large renovation projects such as this, the
construction cost is usually higher than constructing a new building
of the same size and use. There would also be the functional
constraints of dealing with existing restroom locations, window
locations, ceiling heights, etc. The carport/storage structure, in its
current configuration, would most likely be of little use to new
building tenants. Many of these constraints have been described
throughout this report. For the same cost or less, the property
owner can construct a new building with higher energy efficiency
and a building designed for its intended use. When considering the
optimum use of the property and the long term financial return, the
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benefits of a complete demolition and construction of a new
building far outweigh the benefits of a major renovation of the
existing building.
C. Building Code
There doesn't appear to be any prohibitive building code issues in
the existing building. It's a small building that can be retrofitted to
meet current code requirements. Retrofitting to meet ADA
requirements would most likely incur the most cost.
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VI. DRAWINGS AND PHOTOGRAPHS
Drawing #1 —Original floor plan by architect Guy Bothwell showing the open
central courtyard, covered walkway, and interior spaces at the
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perimeter. It is a plan that maximizes cross ventilation and is very
Drawing # 2 —Original building elevations by Guy Rothwell.
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Drawing #3 — Original building sections, roof plan and window details by Guy
Rothwell showing the simple character of the building without
much architectural embellishment.
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Drawing #4 — Section through enclosed courtyard by Shizuo Oka that
added needed floor area but eliminated cross
ventilation through the building.
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Photo #1 — Enclosed central courtyard. Flooring needs replacement, mold is
present on walls, the wiring for the AC units is exposed and light
diffusers are missing.
Photo #2 — Front elevation facing Umi street showing the simple, functional
nature of the building design
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Photo #5 —Mold growth on gypsum board walls.
Photo #6 —Decrepit condition of roof.
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Photo #11 —The Hamilton Building was located on Kalakaua Avenue.
With its geometric form, the absence of applied
ornamentation and its pure expression of building materials,
it is documented as an example of the International Style of
architecture in Hawaii.
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STRUCTURAL SURVEY AND ASSESSMENT
I. PROJECT DESCRIPTION
On December 11, 2014 the Kauai Police Station building located at 3040
Umi St. was visited by a representative of our office to do an assessment
of the structural condition of the building. The cursory assessment was
based on visual observation and did not include any destructive testing or
engineering analysis.
II. BUILDING DESCRIPTION
The original Police Station building consists of a single story masonry
building with wood truss roof system, 1 X6 T&G decking and wood shakes.
See Photograph 1. The original building was designed with an open
courtyard. Later addition/renovation work enclosed the courtyard with a
glulam framed structure. See Photograph 11. The exterior walls of the
original building are constructed of 12-inch and 8-inch wide CMU that is
painted on both sides. These walls support the roofing system and
transfer vertical gravity loads and wind uplift loads to the foundation
system. At the top of the masonry walls was a concrete cap. The lateral
load resisting likely relies on the masonry wall system for resistance to
wind and earthquake. The roof truss system resists the wind forces acting
on the roof structure. The roof system consists of an assembled truss
system which appears to be redwood. Access to the roof was available
through a hatch in the southeastern hallway of the building. Movement in
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the attic space was difficult and dirty and would make structural repairs
difficult. The upper chord lumber of the truss system was stamped
"DWYER LUMBER CO. PORTLAND, ORE" and "AF7600 NAWILIWILI".
The first floor system is primarily slab on grade. There is a basement level
below the southeastern portion of the building. The ground floor over the
basement appears to be cast -in -place concrete joists with a concrete slab.
The basement consists of concrete walls with a concrete basement floor
slab.
In addition to the main building there is a parking shed roof building and
storage shed building located at the south western side of the lot. The
parking roof building appears to be constructed using steel pipes for
vertical, horizontal, and bracing members to support the roof. The storage
shed building is constructed with masonry walls.
III. EXISTING BUILDING CONDITIONS
A. Foundation
1. Although the foundation could not be observed, the building did
not appear to have settlement issues in any location. The
basement retaining walls did not show significant cracking or
signs of leaks. See Photograph 2.
B: Walls
1. The exterior walls are constructed of 12-inch and 8-inch wide
CMU. See Photograph 3.
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2. The interior walls are constructed typically of 4-inch wide CMU.
They are in good condition.
C. Roof Trusses
1. For the age of the structure these trusses appear serviceable
throughout much of the roof with heavy termite damage at
isolated locations, such as the access planking in the southeast
sector of the building attic. See Photograph 4 and 5. Termite
activity was evident throughout the attic however based on what
appeared to be termite droppings. At the time of construction
the use of hurricane ties was most likely not common. To bring
up to current codes hurricane ties would be required at the
perimeter truss to sill plate connections.
D. Roofing Shakes, Facia and Structure
1. The roof facia shows severe damage at several locations on the
exterior of the building. See photographs 6 and 7. The fascia will
require replacement and it is possible that the rafter tails will
need to be replaced at many locations in order to effectively
fasten the fascia board to the roof.
2. The roof beams at the carport area are showing severe termite
damage and deflections. See photographs 8 and 9.
E. Carport and Storage Structure
1. There is a separate carport/storage structure on the southwest
side of the building. The CMU walls are in good condition. The
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Photograph 2: Photograph of basement slab, walls, and first floor
Photograph 3: Photograph of police station, masonry building
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MECHANICAL SURVEY AND ASSESSMENT
I. SCOPE OF WORK
The work includes visual survey of the existing mechanical system at the site and
the preparation of an associated inspection report. There were no available as -
built and contract drawings of the mechanical systems.
The walk-through survey was conducted on December 113 2014 and was limited
to observation of exposed or visible mechanical equipment and plumbing
fixtures.
This report is a general assessment of the mechanical systems.
II. MECHANICAL SYSTEMS
The mechanical systems that were surveyed on December 11, 2014 consisted of
the air conditioning system and the plumbing system.
A. Air Conditioning System:
Only two rooms in the building have window type air conditioning units: one small
interior room (supposedly a Dark Room) and the Licensing and Records Area
which is a large open room at the center of the building.
All the rooms at the perimeter of the building are not air conditioned.
The operational condition of the air conditioning units could not be verified since
there was no power available during the survey.
B. Ventilation System:
The toilets and electrical room have rusted exhaust grilles and registers in them.
The exhaust ductwork and equipment connected to them were all covered by the
suspended ceiling and could not be inspected.
C. Plumbing System:
The existing plumbing system was not in working condition. Piping connections
to the plumbing fixtures were either missing or starting to corrode.
Vitreous china urinals and water closets were old models but looked relatively
intact and can still be usable.
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However, the enameled cast iron lavatories and service sink were already
corroded and were not usable.
III. RECOMMENDATIONS
The air conditioning and ventilation systems were old and did not appear to be in
good working condition. They are therefore recommended for removal and
disposal.
The plumbing fixtures were also old models and are therefore recommended for
removal and disposal.
IV. EXISTING LAYOUT &PHOTOS
Window
type AC
Window Type AC Units at Side 1 in the Licensing &Records Area
AC Units at Opposite to Side 1 in Licensing &Records Area
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AC Units at Perpendicular to Side 1 in Licensing &Records Area
AC Unit Serving Interior Dark Room
Basement Electrical Room Exhaust Diffuser
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Lavatories in Men's Room
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ELECTRICAL SURVEY AND ASSESSMENT
I. SCOPE OF WORK
Our scope of work consisted of a review of electrical drawings for the Old
Lihue Police Station project dated 1-31-1951, a survey of the existing
electrical system at the site, conducted December 11, 2014, and discussions
with Kauai Island Utility Cooperative (Electrical Utility Company serving
facility). The survey was limited to a walk-through to observe only the
exposed visible electrical equipment not concealed within ceilings, walls and
floors within the existing space and making a general assessment of the
electrical system.
II. ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS
A, Electrical Power Distribution
1. The main electrical service to the single story building is currently
disconnected from the existing 3-25KVA pole mounted
transformers on utility pole WED 050-540-9501. From utility pole
#KED 050-540-9501, an existing 2" PVC riser conduit with wires
are left abandoned (see photo#1). Electrical service was provided
at 208Y/120-volt, 3-phase, 4-wire. Existing abandoned electrical
service equipment are located in the basement of the building. The
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main electrical service wiring has been cut and left abandoned at
the entrance into the CT can (see photo #2). The generator for the
facility was located in the basement in a caged area but has since
been removed (see photo #3). Electrical service was distributed
from the basement and energized branch circuit panelboards
throughout the facility to power outlets and lighting for the building.
2. The majority of the electrical service equipment has been
disconnected with wiring removed and equipment left abandoned
(see photo #4).
3. Electrical panels within the building have been abandoned and are
a mixture of bolt -on and load center panels.
4. Outlets have been abandoned with the coverplates removed.
5. Wiring throughout the building is a combination of conduit and NM
cabling (see photo #5).
6. See attached existing one line diagram which has since been
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sconnected, wiring removed and electrical equipment abandoned.
B. Lighting
1. Ceiling mount lighting fixtures within the building have missing
lenses and housings (see photo #6).
2. Fluorescent lighting fixtures within the building are attached to
failing ceiling structures or have cracked lenses (see photo #7).
3. There are no illuminated exit signs within the building for proper
means of egress during a power outage (see photo #8).
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4. Existing exterior building surround lighting does not appear
adequate with only two "jellyjar type of fixtures which are corroded
at the main entrance (see photo #g).
5. Lighting switches are disconnected and removed exposing interior
wiring and boxes (see photo #10).
C. Telecommunications
1. Telephone service is served from utility pole #KED 050-540-9501
and runs overhead via intermediate poles at the back of the
building (see photo #11).
2. The main distribution equipment with termination equipment are
located in the basement and serves intermediate distribution
equipment throughout the building (see photo #12).
3. The intermediate distribution equipment is abandoned and does not
have adequate ventilation for telecommunication equipment (see
photo #13).
D. Fire Alarm
1. Currently there are no existing fire alarm system for the building.
E. Security Alarm
1. Currently there are no existing security alarm system for the
building.
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Photo #5 —Existing ceiling space with exposed NM cabling improperly
secured to the structure.
Photo #6 —Existing lighting fixtures with missing fixture housings.
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Photo #13 — Existing intermediate telecommunication distribution
equipment.
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IV. EXISTING ONE LINE DIAGRAM
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UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS FILE REVIEW
I. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, SOLID AND HAZARDOUS WASTE BRANCH
(SHWB) FILES
The facility file for the Lihue Police Station (9-701067) at 3060 Umi Street, Lihue,
Kauai, Hawaii included several completed Notification for Underground Storage
Tank (UST) forms that indicated that there were two former USTs associated
with the facility; a 1,000-gallon, steel, single walled, gasoline UST installed on
May 7, 1953 and a 5,000-gallon, steel, single walled, gasoline UST installed on
May 8, 1975. The 1,000-gallon UST was classified as "temporarily out of use" as
of December 1989 and both were reported to be last used on June 30, 1980,
The SHWB performed an inspection of the facility as documented in letter
U0369JR, dated March 31, 1995 and findings included the Code of Federal
Regulations (CFR), Title 40, Part 280.72(c) requirement that the 1,000-gallon
UST either be permanently closed or upgraded since it had been classified as
"temporarily out of use" for over a year. Subsequently, the 5,000-gallon UST was
classified as "temporarily out of use" in 1995 and both USTs were removed in
November 1998. As documented in the SHWB letter, U11123JU, dated
November 25, 1998, identification number 990070 was assigned to a release
from the 1,000-gallon UST that was verbally reported during removal activities.
After the SHWB reviewed the June 1999 Underground Storage Tank Closure
Report by Brewer Environmental Services, it was documented in SHWB letter
U09024JU, dated September 7, 1999 that no further action was necessary in
response to the release. No other USTs were documented in the facility file.
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II. UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANK CLOSURE REPORT, JUNE 1999
An Underground Storage Tank Closure Report was prepared by Brewer
Environmental Services (BES) for the Lihue Police Station in June 1999. On
November 10-12, 1998, BES observed the removal of the 5,000-gallon gasoline
UST, approximately 34 linear feet of vent pipe, and approximately 20 linear feet
of supply piping. The UST was cleaned in place and the tank and residual
rinsate were properly disposed of off -site. The area was excavated to 15 feet
below ground surface (bgs) and groundwater was not encountered during the
removal activities. Soil vapor headspace analysis was performed using a
photoionization detector (PID) and 12 samples were analyzed from the walls and
floor of the excavation as well as 2 samples from the stockpiled soil and results
were either not detected or below the field action level of 50 ppmv for gasoline
range compounds. Two soil samples were collected from the bottom of the
excavation (15' bgs), one from the piping excavation (30" bgs), and two from the
stockpiled soil and analyzed for total lead, total petroleum hydrocarbons gasoline
(TPH-g), and benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene, and xylenes (BTEX). Further two
additional samples were collected from the bottom of the excavation and one
additional sample from the piping excavation approximately two weeks later. All
sample constituents were either not detected or below the applicable Department
of Health (DOH) Soil Action Levels (SALs) based on rainfall amounts less than or
equal to 200 cm/yr and where a drinking water source is threatened. The 5,000-
gallon UST was observed to be intact and coupled with sample results indicates
that there were no signs of a release associated with this UST.
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On November 12-13, 1998, BES observed the removal of the 1,000-gallon
gasoline UST, approximately 22.2 linear feet of vent pipe, and approximately
28.8 linear feet of supply piping. The UST was noted to have a dozen holes and
was cleaned in place. The tank and residual rinsate were properly disposed of
off -site. The area was excavated to 8 feet bgs and groundwater was not
encountered during the removal activities. Soil vapor headspace analysis was
performed using a PID and 30 soil samples were analyzed from the walls and
floor of the excavation as well as the piping excavation. Two separate stockpiles
were generated from excavation activities and personnel used evidence of
staining and PID readings in excess of 50 ppmv to generate the gross
contamination stockpile. Additionally, the area was overexcavated an additional
five feet on the east and west walls of the excavation. Overexcavation to the
north was prevented by a sewer line and to the south it was prevented by the
walls of the building. Ten (10) soil samples were initially collected; two from
below the base of the tank, four from the center of each excavation wall where
the contamination was observed to be the worst (�2 ft bgs), four from the bottom
of the excavation walls (�8 ft bgs). The samples were analyzed for TPH-G,
BTEX, and lead; however, the BTEX laboratory results could not be used due to
low sample surrogate recoveries. Therefore, the site was resampled using a
Geoprobe direct push drill rig since the site had previously been backfilled. All
sample constituents were either not detected or below the applicable DOH SALs
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based on rainfall amounts less than or equal to 200 cm/yr and where a drinking
water source is threatened.
Both excavations were backfilled with clean soil and repaved. Stockpiled soil
was transported to the Kapa'a DPW Baseyard landfarm. Although a small
release was noted in association with the 1,000-gallon UST, the sample results
indicated that concentrations were not sufficient to cause an impact on the site
and BES recommended no further action.
III. SUMMARY AND CONCLUSIONS
The review of the SHWB files indicated that a release of gasoline had occurred
from the 1,000-gallon gasoline UST. However, the soil sample concentrations of
TPH-G, BTEX, and lead were below the applicable action levels at the time of the
removal. As a result, the DOH issued a letter that no further action was
necessary for the site.
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On May 6, 2015, the State Historic Preservation Division (SHPD) has received the submission for the demolition of the
former Kauai Police Station.
The former Kauai Police Station was designed by Guy Rothwell and constructed in 1951. SHPD informally requested
that a structural assessment be done on the building in order to determine if it was structurally sound. The Former Kauai
Police Station Building Survey and Assessment (Mitsunaga & Associates, April 2015) found that the building was sound,
but had received several alterations and additions over the years.
Based on the submitted information, SHPD has determined "historic property affected".
SHPD accepts the Building Survey and Assessment as mitigation for the demolition of the building. No further SHPD
review is needed for permitting of this project.
Any future work outside of the proposed scope identified in this review may be subject to additional SHPD review.
Permit processing may commence upon a completed review from each SHPD branch.
Please contact Anna Broverman at (808) 692-8028 or at anna.e.broverman@hawaii.gov if you have any questions
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