HomeMy WebLinkAbout 03/11/2015 Public hearing transcript on BILL#2577, BILL#2578 PUBLIC HEARING
MARCH 11, 2015
A public hearing of the Council of the County of Kaua`i was called to order by
Mason K. Chock, Chair, Planning Committee, on Wednesday, March 11, 2015, at
1:32 p.m., at the Council Chambers, 4396 Rice Street, Suite 201, Historic County
Building, Lihu`e, and the presence of the following was noted:
Honorable Mason K. Chock
Honorable Arryl Kaneshiro
Honorable KipuKai Kuali`i
Honorable Ross Kagawa
Honorable Mel Rapozo (present at 1:36p.m.)
Honorable JoAnn A. Yukimura
Excused: Honorable Gary L. Hooser
The Clerk read the notice of the public hearing on the following:
1. "Bill No. 2577 — A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ZONING
CONDITION IN ORDINANCE NO. PM-31-79, AND ORDINANCE NO.
PM-2009-391 RELATING TO ZONING DESIGNATION IN POIPU,
KAUAI (John Horwitz, Peter Baldwin, Matthew B. Guard, and George
Robinson, Successor Co-Trustees of the Eric A. Knudsen Trust under Deed
of Trust dated April 30, 1922, Applicants)
2. Bill No. 2578 — A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ZONING
CONDITION IN ORDINANCE NO, PM-2001-354, RELATING TO
ZONING DESIGNATION IN PO`IPU, KAUAI (John Horwitz, Peter
Baldwin, Matthew B. Guard, and George Robinson, Successor Co-Trustees
of the Eric A. Knudsen Trust under Deed of Trust dated April 30, 1922,
Applicants),"
which were passed on first reading and ordered to print by the Council of the County
of Kauai on February 11, 2015, and published in The Garden Island newspaper on
February 18, 2015.
The following communications were received for the record:
1. Gampon, Chris, March 10, 2015
'2. James, Thelma, March 10, 2015
3. Johnston, Robert, March 6, 2015
4. Tallman, Jim, March 9, 2015
The hearing proceeded as follows:
SCOTT K. SATO, Council Services Review Officer: We received four (4)
written testimony providing comments and we have one (1) registered speaker. The
first speaker is Chris Gampon representing the Association of Beach House Owners
of Kiahuna Plantation and Outrigger Rental.
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CHRIS GAMPON: For the record, I am Chris Gampon. I am the
General Manager of the Association of Beach House Owners of Kiahuna Plantation
and I also manage the Outrigger Rental program. With Outrigger, we manage the
entire Association. I submitted some information in advance so that I could highlight
our concerns. First, I would like to say that my coming to speak today is not really an
indictment in anyway against the application per say, but for the safety that exists
or does not exist within the area that is going to be affected by the road that is
proposed. As you can see on my map above, there are some areas currently today
that have issues both at our east and west entrances. There are crosswalks at our
west entrance and a crosswalk in the center of that space that affect pedestrians and
there are many vehicles that park along the roadway. We have been consistent in
our effort to try to get safety measures put in. We were fortunate enough to get some
setbacks at the east and west entrances and at the Kiahuna Plantation Drive, which
is across from our west entrance. That gave a line of sight for the pedestrians walking
there, but there are many vehicles that park in the area and it is highlighted in
yellow. I am not sure if you can see it in this map, but I brought a laser pointer just
so I could help you out. This area right here. This is our east entrance and this is
our west entrance. What we are concerned about is that there is a lot of traffic going
up and down Po`ipu Road already. The traffic, if you go out from either of our
entrances, unless you are turning right, can keep you sitting in either entrance or
even coming out of Kiahuna Plantation drive for quite a while. That is especially true
on the west side where there is Keoki's Paradise Restaurant and the Po`ipu Shopping
Village. Our concern is that adding more load to the road in that location should also
be included with addressing the issues of parking and the issue of pedestrian walking
up and down. There is a safety issue especially in the evening when people come out
from the Waiohai, Koa Kea, or from Kiahuna Plantation and they walk through to
try to get to the shopping center. They will just cross the road anywhere. The
crosswalk there is helpful, but it is not meaningful because people will get to the
entrance and they will cross over.
Committee Chair Chock: Mr. Gampon, we have a three (3) minute time
limit on our public hearings. Do you have more testimony to provide?
Mr. Gampon: I just have one (1) more graph that I would
like to show.
Committee Chair Chock: I would like to give you that extra three (3)
minutes, if possible, but I just want to ask if anyone else is here to testify on this item
today? Seeing none, we will continue with your second three (3) minutes.
Mr. Gampon: I am not sure if you have the other graph. In
this picture it just shows Po`ipu Road, where the Village at Po`ipu will be located on
the map, and where there are some other developments that would also add load.
Again, it is not an indictment against this particular application, but the fact that in
adding a road anywhere, there needs to be some safety concerns that are addressed
as well and we would like to suggest to the Council and everyone involved with the
project that if there is a way to alleviate some of those issues: the parking, the
pedestrian safety, some walkways for people to get from point "A" to point "B," it
would be beneficial for everyone because it is an accident waiting to happen there.
Committee Chair Chock: Are there questions from Councilmembers?
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Councilmember Yukimura: Thank you for being here, Chris. From this
depiction that is up before us, the Village at Po`ipn is going to only have one (1) access
out to Po`ipn Road?
Mr. Gampon: I believe the plan had been to have one near
Ho`owili Road which is the one that goes to Po`ipn Beach Park. I was recently advised
that there are some issues with archeological sites or something that would deter
them from using that road instead. There is also, in the original plan, an access from
the Koloa side as well.
Councilmember Yukimura: This is just talking off the top of my head, as
I look at the map, that it would be good to have some access to Ala Kinoiki. That is
what we were trying to get away from these types of developments that have a lot of
density of people and there is only one (1) way out of it.
Mr. Gampon: I am not sure what the plan is.
Councilmember Yukimura: Because that would then pour all the traffic
onto Po`ipu Road, whereas if you had another access to Ala Kinoiki then they could
get out that way if all they wanted to do is go to Lihu`e.
Mr. Gampon: I am not sure. I know there are Grove Farm
lands in between.
Councilmember Yukimura: Well that should not be a barrier.
Mr. Gampon: The application was for coming to Po`ipn Road
and I am aware that there was once a plan to go near Ho`owili or right across from
Ho`owili Road by Po`ipn Beach Park. There was also in the South Shore Development
Plan, a roundabout that was suggested for that area. I do not know if that is still in
consideration. I know they are at the point right now where they are landlocked and
they need some access. We do have some concerns that if there is a connection from
Po`ipn Road to the full build out all the way to Ala Kinoiki that might cause more
traffic to come down that way. For now, the fifty (50) lots, they are land-locked and
we understand that.
Committee Chair Chock: Thank you. Councilmember Kagawa.
Councilmember Yukimura: Thank you.
Councilmember Kagawa: In the original application, where was the
road planned to be?
Mr. Gampon: My understanding was there was supposed to
be one by Hoowili and I am not sure if that is supposed to be a main artery and
another one that was further up by the Koloa Mill Road. I am not sure what the name
of the road is once you cross Ala Kinoiki.
Councilmember Kagawa: Basically, you are scratching that old plan
and instead asking for this?
Mr. Gampon: Well no, this is not my plan. I put together
this graphic just to illustrate, if you consider the full build-out and the other
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developments already approved to come out from Kiahuna Plantation Drive directly
onto Po`ipii Road as may be the Welk Resort Development...there is a lot of load in
that area. Beyond what the Knudsen Trust is trying to do, there are issues that need
to have some attention safety wise for pedestrians especially, and for vehicle safety
as well.
Councilmember Kagawa: I talked earlier with Rupert folks regarding
Hapa Trail. Where is that located?
Mr. Gampon: Hapa Trail would be at the edge of the
property between Kiahuna Plantation Drive in the red portion.
Councilmember Kagawa: Can you do it with the pointer?
Mr. Gampon: Yes, it would be right around here and it goes
up into Koloa.
Councilmember Kagawa: The Hapa Trail is just abutting the upper
portion of Kiahuna Plantation Drive.
Mr. Gampon: Yes. My understanding is that the
application has a thirty (30) foot buffer between Hapa Trail and the road that they
want to put in.
Councilmember Kagawa: Basically, this proposed road does not disrupt
that Trail.
Mr. Gampon: I do not think so. You would have to ask the
applicant. I met with one of the trustees, with John Horwitz;and he showed me that
it would be about thirty (30) feet from Hapa Trail.
Councilmember Kagawa: Thank you for the map. I really appreciate
that.
Mr. Gampon: You are welcome.
Committee Chair Chock: Any further clarification questions?
Councilmember Yukimura: No. I think the applicants' attorney is here
and maybe we can call him up.
Committee Chair Chock: Would anyone else from the public like to
testify on this item? Seeing none...
Councilmember Yukimura: Can we...
Committee Chair Chock: If he wants to provide public testimony, I am
happy to receive that, if not, I am sure that he can also receive further information
from the applicant and the proposed project.
Councilmember Yukimura: Can we ask Mr. Graham...
Council Chair Rapozo: Mr. Chair, this is a public hearing.
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Committee Chair Chock: Yes, I know.
Council Chair Rapozo: I agree with what you are doing and you are
doing it the right way. This is a public hearing and not a Committee Meeting. We
can save the questions for the Committee Meeting.
Committee Chair Chock: That is what I would like to do. Unless you
want to provide testimony, we will be moving this to the Planning Committee. I do
have a list of questions and I am sure other Members do, so we would like to make
sure that we have some time to have you back for those questions. That concludes
these public hearings.
There being no further testimony on this matter, the public hearing
adjourned at 1:44 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Council Services Review Officer
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