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COUNTY OF KAUAI
Minutes of Meeting
OPEN SESSION
Approved as circulated 11/25/19
Board/Commission: CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION Meeting Date October 28, 2019
Location Mo‘ikeha Building, Meeting Room 2 A/B Start of Meeting: 3:01 p.m. End of Meeting: 4:53 p.m.
Present Chair Jan TenBruggencate, Vice Chair Marissa Sandblom. Members: Carol Suzawa, Patrick Stack, Lori Koga, Reid Kawane. Also:
Boards & Commissions Office Staff: Administrative Specialist Anela Segreti.
Testifiers: Board of Ethics Chair Dean Toyofuku, Cost Control Chair James Whitfield
Excused Virginia Kapali
Absent
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Call To Order Chair TenBruggencate
called the meeting to order
at 3:01 p.m. with six
members present which
constituted a quorum.
Agenda Hearing no adjustments to
the agenda Chair
TenBruggencate approved
the agenda.
Approval of
Minutes
Open Session Minutes of September 30, 2019
Mr. Kawane noted that Chair TenBruggencate is listed as Vice Chair on pg. 1.
Executive Session Minutes of September 30, 2019
Ms. Suzawa moved to
approve the Open Session
Minutes of September 30,
2019 as amended and the
Executive Session Minutes
as submitted. Ms. Koga
seconded. Motion carried
6:0
Communications CRC 2019-12 Letter received from Councilmember Felicia Cowden dated October 2, 2019
regarding Testimony Regarding CRC 2019-08: Proposal to Amend Section 1.03B1 of the
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Charter of the County of Kaua‘i.
CRC 2019-13 Email received from Prosecuting Attorney, Justin Kollar dated October 16, 2019
regarding proposed language for amendment to Charter Section 1.03 County Elections B.1.
Offices of the Mayor and Prosecuting Attorney.
CRC 2019-14 Email received from Prosecuting Attorney, Justin Kollar dated October 16, 2019
regarding proposed language for amendment to Charter Section 9A.05, Vacancy in Office of
Prosecuting Attorney.
Chair TenBruggencate pointed out that these three communications will be taken up later in the
agenda in the Business section of the meeting and suggested to not have discussion and this
time and entertained a motion on all three to receive.
Mr. Stack moved to receive
CRC 2019-12 CRC 2019-13
and CRC 2019-14. Ms.
Suzawa seconded. Motion
carried 6:0
Business CRC 2019-06 Letter received from Board of Ethics dated June 28, 2019 regarding Ethics
Disclosure Statements Requirements
Chair TenBruggencate explained that the proposal is to amend the disclosure language of the
Charter, to add people that are designated on behalf of the County and the Finance Department
to the required list of people that need to file ethics disclosures.
Dean Toyofuku, Chair Board of Ethics, apologized for missing last meeting and thanked
Commission for their time. Mr. Toyofuku summarized the Board of Ethics review of the
Disclosure Form and instructions to make things clearer. Reviewed who must file a disclosure,
compared what was written, “The Mayor, Councilpersons, Prosecuting Attorney, all
department heads and deputies, members of boards and commissions, the purchasing agent, and
all candidates for elective office”, in the instructions with what is in the Charter, “The Mayor,
Councilpersons, Prosecuting Attorney, all department heads and deputies, members of boards
and commissions, the purchasing agent, any employee delegated or authorized to act on behalf
of the director of finance and deputy director of finance in their absence, and all candidates for
elective office”, and moved to revise it to the Charter language. The Board did not know that
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they needed to get a disclosure from the delegated employee in the Department of Finance.
Raised the question about the other departments, do they have dedicated designated employees?
Not sure if they are the body to investigate. Second question that came up was with the new
administration there are new titles, for example, Managing Director, and there could be others
added over time. The Managing Director did submit a disclosure statement, even though the
previous disclosure did not say he needed to. Board of Ethics is trying to make sure everything
is clear.
Vice Chair Sandblom clarified that given the previous description of the previous language the
Board in May mimicked what was in the Charter. In addition there is an additional question
about new titles, new positions that are not in the Charter, and Finance delegated employee.
Questioned that the disclosure form is a financial disclosure form for assessing financial
conflict and maybe that is why Finance is defined, because of procurement, financial relations.
Mr. Toyofuku explained that the responsibility of the Board is to look for ethical violations, not
specifically financial.
Ms. Suzawa clarified that could include contracts which does not include finance. So if
eliminate Finance or any department, it would be broader and cover anybody.
Chair TenBruggencate suggested that Finance is looked at with greater scrutiny is that the
Director of Finance can bind the County more frequently and to a greater extent than any other
director. So if there’s going to be fraud it’s going to be where the money’s at, and that may be a
reason for that. He asked if the Board if they looked beyond department heads and if agency
heads should be covered, i.e. Elderly and Transportation and Economic Development and if
they had, why was it not brought to the Commission.
Mr. Toyofuku explained that the Board was not sure of process and what they should be
supplying. They would like take information from Commission, do research and return with
something more detailed.
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Chair TenBruggencate said it would be useful to the Commission and they would like to hear it.
Mr. Kawane feels that the Department or Department Head has more authority to give out the
contract. They give to Finance Department and they will sign off on it, assuming that the
Department knows what they are doing with a contract, so it should encompass all Departments
that have authority to contract outside of the County.
Chair TenBruggencate stated that it’s a rare occaision that both the Head and Deputy is out at
the same time, but it could have it.
Vice Chair Sandblom asked if the Board can make changes on their own regarding who needs
to complete a Disclosure Form.
Todd Jenson, Deputy County Attorney, stated that they are governed by the Charter and what it
says.
Vice Chair Sandblom clarified that the change was bringing the form up to the Charter but not
beyond.
Chair TenBruggencate suggested this item be deferred and referred back to Board of Ethics and
include concerns with designated authorities. Asked to get back to Commission at least by the
January meeting and asked for a motion.
Mr. Kawane moved that
CRC 2019-06 be deferred
and that the Board of Ethics
return by at least the January
2020 meeting to present
their proposal. Ms.
Sandblom seconded.
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Motion carried 6:0
CRC 2019-09 Letter received from the Cost Control Commission dated September 9, 2019
regarding Charter Proposal to amend Article XXVIII Cost Control Commission.
Chair TenBruggencate explained that this is Charter Proposal is from Cost Control Commission
regarding expanding the authority of the Cost Control Commission to include revenue
enhancement.
James Whitfield, Chair, Cost Control Commission, explained that Commission be renamed the
Cost Control and Revenue Enhancement Commission and to expand the functions/role of the
Commission.
Mr. Stack questioned whether Cost Control/Revenue Enhancement sounds like they may be
cancelling each other out.
Mr. Whitfield explained that they are related and that the things that they are looking at, weary
that looking at revenue enhancement may not be in the purview of Cost Control as it has been
traditionally been operating. They feel that going forward the Commission should put more
emphasis on revenue enhancement measures and expenditure rationalization to help improve
the fiscal position of the County. In the past they were just looking at axing positions or
programs, doing away with what may appear to be incidental. This is not fair to workers and
tax payers. To do effective cost control need to look at revenues and are they being applied
properly.
Mr. Stack asked for an example of a revenue enhancement.
Mr. Whitfield explained that after the floods, tourist are being charged up in Koke’e and Ke’e
Beach to raise additional revenue to maintain these properties. How can we enhance revenues
and use it to control cost to tax payers.
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Chair TenBruggencate pointed out that the Commissions do not make decisions, they can only
recommend and other agencies or the electorate make final decisions.
Ms Koga asked about Wailua Golf Course fees. The Commission could make a
recommendation to increase fees and that would be a revenue enhancement and then what
happens to the recommendation. Would they recommend how much of a raise?
Mr. Whitfield noted that in 2011 the Commission did make a recommendation to raise fees and
the Council did raise fees, but no one ever implemented it. His understanding is that there was
a lot of public opposition to it. So when it comes to the golf course, how could they use the
facilities to raise more revenue through the golf course?
Chair TenBruggencate asked if other municipalities that have handled a commission like
proposed been looked at.
Mr. Whitfield stated that he looked at the Grace Commission. But he’s not able to find too
many that are Revenue and Cost Control. Most are named either and many work closely with
the County Auditor. On the Big Island they are working with the auditor. Cook County just
started one. They are recommending five year plans to enhance revenues to control costs.
Alabama different municipalities have gone to revenue enhancement commissions are working
along with their councils.
Ms. Sandblom asked if he was able to find similarities with other Hawaii counties.
Mr. Whitfield identified Cost Control Commission on the Big Island and working closely with
auditor. He believes that some recommendations have had to do with revenue allocations.
Ms. Koga asked if adding revenue enhancement to Cost Control would make it more difficult to
find commissioners.
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Mr. Whitfield thinks it might be better. If they could look more for people from the finance,
banking community or retired from such.
Ms. Suzawa suggested looking at Big Island Charter on Cost Control as they are already making
some recommendations with revenue allocations. Discussion on getting more information.
Vice Chair Sandblom
moved to defer to next
month for more
information. Ms. Koga
seconded. Motion carried
6:0
CRC 2019-02 General Discussion on Charter Initiatives of Interest
No discussion.
Without objection Chair
TenBruggencate deferred.
CRC 2019-03 Discussion on County Auditor Position
Continue to wait for information from County Council.
Without objection Chair
TenBruggencate deferred.
CRC 2019-05 Proposal to add to Charter, qualifications for Police Chief
Chair TenBruggencate explained that Councilmember Cowden has introduced a resolution to
the Council which is identical to language that Police Commission brought to Charter
Commission. He is recommending that Commission keep this on the agenda.
Commission discussed what would happen if it was removed from agenda. Would take time to
bring it back on. Police Commission has not requested that Charter Commission drop the
request. Councilmember has introduced a resolution that is going forward. If it passes and it
will be put on the ballot and it is the same than he would suggest that they drop request to
Charter from Police Commission.
Ms. Suzawa moved to defer
CRC 2019-05. Ms.
Sandblom seconded.
Motion carried 6:0
CRC 2019-16 For information and discussion County Council Meeting 10/23/19 Agenda Item
C 2019-229 a communication dated 10/14/19 from Councilmember Cowden transmitting for
Council consideration, a Resolution Proposing A Charter Amendment Relating To
Qualifications For the Chief of Police. Resolution No. 2019-53.
Ms. Suzawa moved to
receive CRC 2019-16. Ms.
Sandblom seconded.
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Motion carried 6:0.
CRC 2019-11 Memorandum received from the Liquor Control Commission dated September
13, 2019 regarding proposed 2020 Charter Amendment.
Representative could not make it today.
Discussed that proposal is to remove requirement that if you are appointed to a board or
commission and serve two terms you have to sit out a year before being appointed to another
board or commission. Want to hear from them as to why they think this is a good idea.
Deputy County Attorney Todd Jenson explained that he is attorney for Liquor Commission and
the driving concern is that it’s difficult to find people to sit on commissions and when someone
sits on a commission and know how things work, there’s a learning curve for a new person.
Chair TenBruggencate explained that the other side of that is that there is a concern of creating
a cadre of insiders. That it becomes a closed enclave that is difficult for someone to get in.
Charter Commissions responsibility is to only put things on the ballot that they feel are
enhancements.
Mr. Stack sees that if they can’t find someone from the outside, than perhaps recruiting from
within.
Commissioners discussed pros and cons of proposal.
Ms. Koga moved to defer
CRC 2019-11 and ask to
have a representative attend.
Ms. Suzawa seconded.
Motion carried 6:0
CRC 2019-13 For discussion email received from Prosecuting Attorney, Justin Kollar dated
October 16, 2019 regarding proposed language for amendment to Charter Section 1.03 County
Elections B.1. Offices of the Mayor and Prosecuting Attorney.
Chair TenBruggencate explained that this is Prosecuting Attorney Justin Kollar’s proposal to
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change the language of the Charter in situations where there are only two candidates for a non-
partisan single seat office, i.e. Prosecuting Attorney and Mayor’s Office that decision be
decided in the primary. There used to be language that allowed whoever won the primary to
take office only if they had 50% of the votes plus one. Issue is do they want to change the
Charter as suggested or look at another option.
Commissioners discussed reasoning behind this proposal for the Prosecuting Attorney’s Office
and other options, i.e. go back to 50% plus one or if only two candidates they go directly to
general election.
Anela Segreti, Administrative Specialist conducted a roll call vote.
Ms. Koga moved to receive
CRC 2019-13. Mr. Kawane
seconded.
Roll Call Vote:
Commissioner Suzawa: nay
Commiseioner Stack: nay
Commissioner Koga: aye
Commissioner Kawane:aye
Vice Chair Sandblom: aye
Chair TenBruggencate: aye
Commissioner Kapali:
excused
Motion carried: 4 ayes and 2
nays.
CRC 2019-14 For discussion email received from Prosecuting Attorney, Justin Kollar dated
October 16, 2019 regarding proposed language for amendment to Charter Section 9A.05,
Vacancy in Office of Prosecuting Attorney.
Chair TenBruggencate explained that this seems to be a correction of an error. He read the
current Charter language and pointed out it does not say what is done between a year and
eighteen months. The proposed language seems to define what is done in that six month gap
that is not specified in the Charter.
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Commissioners discussed this housekeeping measure, fixing a clear problem.
Chair TenBruggencate requested that proposal be sent to County Attorney’s Office for review.
Vice Chair Sandblom
moved to approve CRC
2019-14. Ms. Koga
seconded. Motion carried:
6:0
CRC 2019-15 For discussion Fact Sheet 2020 Charter Amendment by Council Resolution
Timeline. Elections Division Office of the County Clerk
Discussed Council Resolution Timeline for Council which is till June. Charter Commission will
need to make their decisions before that.
Chair TenBruggencate called for a motion.
Commissioners discussed Commissions timeline. In past March/April was deadline for final
reviews and then discuss getting out for education of proposed amendments. Commission asked
for Boards and Commission Administrator to present timeline at next meeting.
Ms. Suzawa moved to
receive CRC 2019-15. Ms.
Koga seconded. Motion
carried 6:0
Announcements Next meeting: Monday, November 25, 2019, 3:00 p.m., in the Mo’ikeha Building, Meeting Room
2A/2B.
Ms. Suzawa stated she will be off island for the week and will not be attending meeting.
Executive
Session
ES-011 Pursuant to Hawai‘i Revised Statutes (HRS) §92-4, §92-5 (a) (4), the County Attorney will
provide a briefing, discussion, and consultation regarding the letter received from the Board of
Ethics dated June 28, 2019 regarding Ethics Disclosure Statements Requirements.
Mr. Stack moved to go into
Executive Session at
4:28pm. Vice Chair
Sandblom seconded.
Motion carried 6:0
Return to Open
Session
Ratify Commission actions taken in Executive Session for ES-011. The meeting resumed in
Open Session at 4:52 pm.
Ms. Suzawa moved to ratify
the actions taken in
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Executive Session for ES-
011. Ms. Sandblom
seconded. Motion carried
6:0.
Adjournment With no objection, Chair
TenBruggencate adjourned
the meeting at 4:53 pm.
Submitted by: __________________________________ Reviewed and Approved by: _________________________________________
Anela Segreti, Administrative Specialist Jan TenBruggencate, Chair
( X ) Approved as circulated.
( ) Approved with amendments. See minutes of ___________ meeting.