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COUNTY OF KAUAI
Minutes of Meeting
OPEN SESSION
Board/Commission Kaua‘i Police Commission Meeting Date February 28, 2020
Location Mo`ikeha Building – Meeting Room 2A/B Start of Meeting: 9:05 a.m. End of Meeting: 10:57 a.m.
Present Chair Roy Morita; Vice Chair Catherine Adams; Commissioners: Mary K. Hertog, Leina`ala Jardin, Kevin Mince and Dean Pigao
Also present: Board & Commissions Office Staff: Support Clerk Mercedes Omo ; Administrator Ellen Ching; Office of the County
Attorney: Deputy County Attorney Mark Ishmael; Police Department: Chief of Police Todd G. Raybuck; Assistant Chiefs Mark
Begley, Roy Asher and Roy Asher; Officer of the Month Jason Scalzo and Lieutenant Darren Rose and numerous essential and non-
essential staff in the Kaua‘i Police Department.
Excused Commissioner Gerald Bahouth
Absent
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Call To Order Chair Morita called the
meeting to order at 9:05
a.m. with six (6)
Commissioners present
to conduct business.
Public
Testimony
There was no testimony.
Chair’s
Comments/
Announcements
Next Regularly Scheduled Monthly Meeting at 9:00 a.m. on Friday, March 27, 2020 at the Mo`ikeha
Building, Meeting Room 2A/2B. Executive Session to follow.
Officer of the
Month
Recognition
(Deferred on
1/24/2020)
Reading the commendation for Officer of the Month Jason Scalzo was Lieutenant Darren Rose.
Officer Scalzo was commended for his work not only on-duty but off-duty as well. On September
15, 2019 a report was made by residents that their home had been burglarized. Since the home was
equipped with video surveillance, officers responding to the call were able to identify the male
subject entering the home while the residents were inside and proceeded to take various items
including a pistol and ammunition. Because the suspect had a history with KPD and was known to
run from officers, the officers were asked to be on the look for the suspect .
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On September 21st around 9:50 a.m. off-duty Scalzo received information through his citizen
contacts that the male subject was in a certain location so he drove to the location in his personal
vehicle and confirmed that it was the suspect. He alerted the officers to the location and they were
able to apprehend the subject.
Chief Raybuck presented Officer Scalzo with a certification of outstanding and exemplary service for
his professionalism by always taking a proactive approach to police work by building relationships
with citizens who in turn would provide him with substantial information. Additionally, Chief
expressed his appreciation for every single member in the Kaua‘i Police Department who engaged in
the investigations of two high profile cases as well as everyone who was contacted during the
investigations.
Lieutenant Darren Rose commended Officer Scalzo for his relentless pursuit of t he capture of wanted
criminals.
Chair Morita and each individual Commissioner each expressed their gratitude for Officer Scalzo for
his great police work, his reactiveness while on-duty or off-duty and for his dedication and
commitment in keeping the community safe.
Approval of
Minutes for
January 24, 2020
Chair Morita called for a motion to amend or approve the Regular Open Session Meeting Minutes of
January 24, 2020.
Mr. Pigao moved to
approve the meeting
minutes as circulated.
Ms. Hertog seconded the
motion. The motion
carried 6:0.
Chief’s Monthly
Reports
1. Administrative and Technical Bureau Reports as of January 2020
2. Investigative Services Bureau
3. Patrol Services Bureau
4. Crime Statistics
Business
KPC 2019-36
Discussion and decision-making on recommendations to amend the Police Commission
Rules on Administrative Pract ice and Procedure in accordance to Hawai‘i Revised Statutes
Section 92-2.5 (a). (Deferred on 10/25/19, 11/22/2019 and 01/24/2020) *Copies of the
proposed rule changes were distributed to the Commissioners prior to the meeting.
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Ms. Hertog briefed the Commissioners on the partial completed recommendations to the Police
Commission Admin istrative Rules, then called on Mr. Mince to present the proposed
recommendations to the Commission.
Mr. Mince explained that the proposed changes to Rule 1-4 is to clarify the responsibilities of the
Police Commission and to inform the public, new commissioners and politicians what the
Commission actually can and cannot do. He reviewed each proposed change then answered
questions.
In response to Chair Morita’s question about the complainant or the officer having the option of
having the discussion in executive session or in open session. Mr. Mince noted that although the
complainant and the officer has the option to have their case heard in open or executive it does
address whether the Commission’s deliberations should be held in open session or executive session.
Chair Morita stated that if it involves personnel issues the discussion and deliberation should be held
in executive session. Mr. Mince explained that the new verbiage is to clarify to the public and to the
media that all discussions and deliberation shall be held in executive session and the reasons for it.
Ms. Adams stated that although she’s leaning towards transparency she understand s the degree of
sensitivity these type of issues would raise but the discussion on determining whether an incident
happened while the officer was on duty or off-duty which should done in open session.
Ms. Jardin stated that she agrees with Ms. Adams that having discussions to determine whether or
not an officer was on duty or off-duty and whether or not the Commission should grant an officer
legal representation should be done in open session as long as no names are mentioned.
Mr. Mince stated that the Commission is not trying the case it’s simply trying to determine whether
an officer’s actions were in the course and scope of his or her employment to be entitled to legal
representation. Chair Morita noted that the Commissioners should have the discussion in open
session and if they go off track Deputy County Attorney Ishmael can put the Commissioners back on
track.
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Mr. Ishmael stated that an individual can request (if they feel) they want to have the discussion in
public they can. Generally, there is an effort to protect an individual’s privacy but that’s cover under
a different rule and not under the Sunshine rules.
Speaking in a general sense, Ms. Ching stated that the discussion on whether or not a person is
entitled to legal representation at the county’s expense should be held in open session and any legal
advice by the county attorney regarding liability should be held in executive session.
Ms. Jardin stated that removing the verbiage “the officer’s request for legal representation be held in
executive session” should address the issue. Mr. Ishmael stated that the Commission should strike
out the current verbiage all together because it’s too broad and come up with new verbiage.
Mr. Mince suggested language that says all discussions and decision-making on granting legal
representation should be held in open session and all requests for legal advice from the county
attorney should be held in executive session. Ms. Adams noted that the Commission should ask
Deputy County Attorney Ishmael if he could draft the appropriate language for the Commissioners to
review at the next meeting. Mr. Mince asked Mr. Ishmael if it was okay for him to send him the
draft language for him to work on to which Mr. Ishmael replied yes.
In response to Ms. Adams question about if the person covering for t he chief has signing authority to
which Chief Raybuck replied yes, but they won’t have the authority to hire or fire a person.
Ms. Hertog explained that putting that particular language in the Commission’s rules will help to
address concerns about who the next in line (chain of command) is to cover for the chief during his
or her leave of absence. Ms. Adams noted that she likes the idea.
Chief Raybuck asked for clarification if proposed new Rule 4-2 Acting Chief would give the Police
Commission the sole authority to name the acting chief is to which Mr. Mince replied yes, and
explained that if there is no definite return date for the chief the new rule would give the Police
Commission authority to appoint an acting chief, but if the Commission is aware of the chief’s exact
return to work date, then Commission would follow the Department’s chain of command.
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Chief Raybuck stated that he likes the new rule because it clarifies the process, but what he’s
concerned about is if it’s just a matter of family obligations or personal issues the police chief would
still have the authority to oversee the day-to-day operations until he or she is no longer able to make
those decisions or if the Police Commission has effectively removed the police chief from the
position. As a suggestion, the Commission should add clarifying language that in such situations the
Commission could require the police chief to name an acting chief so there’s no misinterpretation of
the rule as to who is in charge, which brings him to his next concern about the Commission having
the authority to name an acting chief while the current chief is still in position.
Ms. Hertog responded that the having the chief of police oversee the day-to-day operations is the key
in all of this, because if a chief is out on an extended med ical leave because of some type of injury
and he or she makes decisions that could affect the Department in a negative way, HR (Human
Resources) will say the County would be liable if the chief based on his or her medical condition was
actively engaged in making decision on a daily bases.
Chief Raybuck stated that he understands the intent but the way the proposed language is written
appears to show the Commission overstepping its authority by giving the Commission the power to
oversee the day-to-day operations of the Department . Ms. Hertog stated that that is not the intent, all
the Commission wants to do is to ensure that there is a clear chain of authority so that everyone will
know who is in charge if the police chief is out on an extended leave of absence.
Mr. Mince stated that he could adjust the language to say that the intent of the Commission is to not
replace the chief of police when there’s indication that the chief will be returning to duty. Chief
Raybuck responded t hat he would like to meet with Ms. Hertog and him outside of a regular to talk
about it and come up with a resolution.
In response to Ms. Adams question about appointing an interim chief and not sticking with the
person who the Commission appointed to be the acting chief, Mr. Mince explained that the intent of
rule is to address cases of corruption involving upper level ranks appointing someone from outside of
the Department to be the interim chief would help to restore public trust while the Commission
search for a new police chief.
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Chief Raybuck pointed out that the proposed new language needs clarification. He shared that in his
past experiences when a governing body is tasked with overseeing a police department and they want
the department to go a different direction but it ’s not that governing body would appoint someone
who would take the department into the direction they want the department to go. Again, he would
be more than happy to meet with Commissioners Hertog and Mince to work on accurate language
that depicts what the Commission’s intent is versus someone utilizing the rule for their own purpose.
In response to Mr. Pigao’s question regarding employment contract, Ms. Ching stated that she
discussed the matter with the County Attorney and the Depar tment of Human Resources and they
strongly agreed that there would be no employment contract for all department heads because of
potential liability issues and that the County Charter would serve as the employment contract.
Mr. Ishmael explained that having an external document that gives a person rights could potentially
turn into a full fledge argument on what those rights are. He further explained that all appointed
department heads are considered at-will employees and like the chief of police he or she must be
given valid charges, which is the only provision the Commission should hold itself too because it
gives the Commission the authority to deal with the chief as provided in the Charter.
Ms. Ching noted that an employment contract is just another unnecessary layer of complication. The
Commissio ners unanimously agreed to eliminate the employment contract and have the Charter be
the employment contract.
In response to Chief Raybuck’s question about eliminating the various stakeholders and having the
Mayor as a stakeholder would pigeon hole the Commission from receiving feedback from others?
Mr. Mince stated that in the past having various stakeholders did not prove fruitful for the
Commission because all it got back was high ratings with no substantiations. Chief Raybuck noted
that the decision is for the Commission to make, but to his point, by not seeking input from various
stakeholders would limit the Commission options. For example, the Commission hears about
challenges the police chief is having with another department head and it wants to seek feedback
from that department head to find out if there’s really was a confrontation between the police chief
and the department head. By keeping the stakeholders the Commission could seek input from that
department head, but by not keeping the stakeholders the Commission would lose the authority to do
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that. Furthermore, if issue is really about not being able to get substantive feedback from the
stakeholders the Commission could be asking the wrong questions besides if they don’t provide the
Commission with the right information then don’t ask.
Ms. Hertog stated that the Commission could leave it as “it may seek” as an option and then decide
later when it’s time to do the chief’s annual evaluation or the language could say “at a minimum, the
Commission would ask the Mayor for his or her input.” Ms. Adams suggested using a different tool
for the outside agencies. Chair Morita shared that when both Ms. Adams and himself sat on the Civil
Service Commission, t he Commission actually met with each individual stakeholder .
Mr. Mince thanked the Commissioners and Chief Raybuck for their feedback. He explaine d that out
of the Commission’s nine rules only Rules 1-4 will be edited and revised; Rules 5-9 will not be
revised, and that both he and Ms. Hertog are in the process of creating two new rules, drafting new
complaint procedures and the new disciplinary procedures for the chief all of which were buried in
Chapter 3 of the Commission’s current rules.
Deputy County Attorney Ishmael stated that he appreciates the time and effort Commissioners
Hertog and Mince has out in to come up with proposed language for the Commission’s rules, but his
office simply does not have the resources to be able to review the language by the Commission’s
next meeting.
Mr. Mince voiced his frustration and disappointment that for the past two years, the Commission is
still not able to move forward with revising the Commission’s Rules.
Mr. Ishmael stated that he underst ands his frustration so he’ll set up a meeting with the County
Attorney Matt Bracken so he can offer them some perspective on where the Office of the County
Attorney is at. He asked the Commissioners to continue to work on revising the rules, but because of
the lack of resources he does not foresee signing off on any of the revisions by next month. Ms.
Hertog stated that it was her understanding that after their meeting last week that he was okay with
the changes to which Mr. Ishmael replied no, and stated that the amount of time it takes to review the
proposed language for legality is su bstantial.
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Mr. Mince voiced his frustration over the time it’s taking the Commission to complete revising the
rules and the challenges the Commission has faced in trying to revise its rules so that new
commissioners, politicians and the public would have clarity as to what the processes are and what
the responsibilities of the Police Commission actually are.
Chair Morita stated that based on the tone of the discussion he would to call for a motion to defer the
discussion.
Discussion
Mr. Mince asked what the purpose of the deferral is for to which Ms. Adams replied that it’s to defer
further discussion on changes to the rules. Chair Morita pointed out that when all of the parties are
ready to present the revisions to notify him and he’ll have staff place the item back on the agenda.
Ms. Omo stated that she’ll leave item KPC 2019-36 on the agenda as an on-going item to which
Chair Morita replied okay, then called for a roll call vote.
After the motion failed, Ms. Hertog stated that she understands the County Attorney has a lot of
pressing priorities and she respects that, but at the same time the Commission has been trying to
revise it’s the rules for quite some time and in the process has faced many delays, so she’s hoping
that they can come to a comprise to which Mr. Ishmael replied we’ll see, and stated that the
Commission has a new Police Chief and the Department is running really well and the Commission
has the Charter. As for the rules, he believes that the public complaint process needs to be cleaned
up with the right language. Ms. Ching noted that the discussion on the changes made today can
continue next month.
Ms. Adams moved to defer
further discussion on
changes to the rules.
Mr. Pigao seconded the
motion.
Commissioner Pigao: Aye
Commissioner Mince: Nay
Commissioner Jardin: Nay
Commissioner Hertog: Nay
Vice Chair Adams: Aye
Chair Morita: Aye
The motion to defer further
discussion on item KPC
2019-36 failed by a tie vote
of 3:3.
KPC 2020-3 Briefing by Commissioners Hertog and Mince on proposed changes to the Charter in regard
to higher education and experience requirements for the Chief of Police position.
Ms. Hertog reported that the Charter Review Commission voted unanimously to take the proposal to
the County Attorney’s office for legal review which doesn’t mean anything until a final decision is
made. Ms. Ching reported that the CRC is working on finalizing the timeline for all of the
amendments to go forward. Tentatively, the final deadline for the CRC to decide which question
would be going forward on ballot will be at their next meeting in March.
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KPC 2020-4 Discussion and decision-making on designating three (3) Commissioners to attend the State of
Hawai‘i Police Commissioners’ Conference on April 23-24, 2020 hosted by the Maui Police
Commission.
Chair Morita asked for volunteers to attend this year’s conference on Maui. He noted that the next
Police Commission will be rescheduled to Thursday, April 30, 2020 in lieu of the State of Hawai‘i
Police Commissioners’ Conference happening on April 23-24, 2020.
Chair Morita and
Commissioner Bahouth
were designated to
attend the conference.
Ms. Adams moved that
the Police Commission’s
regularly scheduled
meeting on April 24th, be
reschedule to April 30,
2020. Ms. Hertog
seconded the motion.
The motion carried 6:0.
KPC 2020-5 Discussion and decision- making on designating three (3) Commissioners to attend the 67th
Annual Hawai‘i State Law Enforcement Officials Association (HSLEOA) Conference on
September 23-25, 2020, at the Waikoloa Beach Marriott Resort on the Kohala Coast of the
Island of Hawai‘i.
Chair Morita called for a motion to designate three Commissioners to attend the 2020 HSLEOA on
Hawai‘i Island.
Commissioners
Adams, Jardin and
Pigao select to attend
the conference.
KPC 2020-6 Discussion and decision-making on hosting the 2021 State of Hawai‘i Police Commissioners’
Conference on Kaua‘i. Topics of discussion include but not limited to conference dates and venue.
The Commissioners’ tentatively selected April 2021 as the month to hold the conference and the
venue to hold the conference will be at the Kaua‘i Marriott. Chair Morita and Vice Chair Adams
have volunteered to assist staff with the planning.
KPC 2020-7 Copy of a communication dated January 15, 2020 from Homeland Security (DHS) Office of
Intelligence and Analysis, Under Secretary, David J. Glawe to Todd Raybuck, Chief of
Police, Kaua‘i Police Department thanking him for his contribution to the Hawai‘i Corporate
Security Symposium.
A motion was made by
Ms. Adams to receive
item KPC 2020-7 for the
record. Ms. Hertog
seconded the motion.
The motion carried 6:0.
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Executive
Session
Pursuant to Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §92-4, §92-5 (a) (2) and (4), the purpose of this Executive
Session is for the Commission to review and discuss charges brought against an officer or employee
in the Kaua‘i Police Department, where consideration of matt ers affecting privacy will be involved,
provided that if the individual requests an open meeting, an open meeting shall be held; and to
consult with its attorney on issues pertaining to the Commission’s powers, duties, privileges,
immunities, and or liabilities as they may relate to the following agenda items.
At 10:20 a.m.
Ms. Adams cited the
Hawai‘i Revised Statutes
to bring the meeting into
Executive Session.
ES
KPC 2020-001
Monthly update by Scott Williamson, Lieutenant, Office of Professional Standards on the
status of the Department’s disposition on formal notarized complaints that were filed with
the Kaua‘i Police Department, and formal notarized complaints that were filed with the
Police Commission and referred to the Office of the Chief for further review.
ES
KPC 2020-002
Monthly update by Todd G. Raybuck, Chief of Police, Kaua‘i Police Department or his
designated representative on any significant adverse incidents/events involving personnel in
the Kaua‘i Police Department that could potentially impact the County, the Police
Commission and the Kaua‘i Police Department.
ES
KPC 2020-004
Pursuant to Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §92-4, §92-5 (a) (4), §92-9 (a) (1-4) and (b), the
purpose of this Executive Session is for the Commission to approve or amend the Executive
Session minutes of January 24, 2020 and to consult with its attorney on issues pertaining to
the Commission’s powers, privileges, immunities, and or liabilities as they may relate to this
item.
Prior to calling for a motion to enter into Executive Session, Chair Morita announced that as the new
Chair for the Police Commission he is designating Deputy Count y Attorney Mark Ishmael to read
the Hawai‘i Revised Statutes at all of the Commission meetings to which Mr. Ishmael agreed.
Chair Morita called for a
motion to enter into
Executive Session.
Ms. Adams moved to
enter into Executive
Session. Mr. Pigao
seconded the motion.
The motion carried 6:0.
At 10:23 a.m. the
Commissioners entered
into Executive Session.
Return to Open
Session to ratify
the actions taken
in Executive
Session
At 10:56 a.m. the Commissio ners returned to Open Session. Chair Morita called for a motion to
ratify the actions taken in Executive Session.
Ms. Adams moved to
ratify the actions taken in
Executive Session.
Ms. Hertog seconded the
motion. The motion
carried 6:0.
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ES KPC 2020-001:
Motion carried 6:0 to
receive the Monthly
Report that was
submitted by the Office
of Professional
Standards.
ES KPC 2020-002:
No new report.
ES KPC 2020-004:
Motion carried 6:0 to
approve the Executive
Session Minutes of
January 24, 2020 as
submitted.
Adjournment Prior to adjourning the meeting, Chair Morita called on Ms. Ching to address the Commission on
matter relating to item KPC 2020-4. Ms. Ching explained that because only two (2) Commissioners
were selected to attend the Police Commissioners’ Conference and the budget calls for three (3)
members to attend she would like to ask the Commission if she could send staff to attend the
conference and that in next years’ budget she would include a budget for staff to attend the
conferences as well to which Chair Morita agreed, then called for a motion to that effect.
With no further business to conduct, Chair Morita called for a motion to adjourn the meeting.
Ms. Adams moved and
was seconded by
Ms. Jardin. The motion
carried 6:0 to have staff
attend the conference.
Ms. Hertog moved to
adjourn the meeting.
Ms. Jardin seconded the
motion. The motion
carried 6:0. At 10:57
a.m. the meeting
adjourned.
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Submitted by: __________________________________ Reviewed and Approved by: _________________________________________
Mercedes Omo , Staff Support Clerk Roy Morita, Chair
(x) Approved as circulated on April 30, 2020
( ) Approved as amended. See minutes of ___________ meeting.