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HomeMy WebLinkAbout03/27/2018 Department of Public Works (Operating & CIP (CIP)) Public Works— Operating & CIP Honorable Arthur Brun Honorable Mason K. Chock Honorable Derek S.K. Kawakami Honorable Mel Rapozo Honorable JoAnn A. Yukimura (present at 9:04 a.m.) Honorable Arryl Kaneshiro Excused: Honorable Ross Kagawa The Committee reconvened on March 27, 2017 at 9:03 a.m., and proceeded as follows: Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Good morning. I would like to call back to order the Budget & Finance Committee and the Fiscal Year (FY) 2018-2019 Departmental Budget Reviews. On the schedule for today, March 27, 2018, we have Department of Public Works and their Capital Improvement Project (CIP) projects. Last week, we were able to get through all of their divisions. Today it is just the Department of Public Works CIP projects. As we do each morning, we would like to take public testimony at the beginning of the day. Is there anyone in the audience wishing to testify? There being no objections, the rules were suspended to take public testimony. There being no one present to provide testimony, the meeting was called back to order, and proceeded as follows: Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Seeing none, I will suspend the rules. Lyle and Mike, if you want to come up? MICHAEL TRESLER, Executive Assistant to the Mayor: Good morning. Michael Tresler, Public Works. I also have Wade Lord, who is our new CIP Manager, and he will be answering all of the questions today. WADE LORD, CIP Manager: Good morning. Mr. Tresler: Just kidding. And of course, Lyle Tabata, our Acting County Engineer. If I can just start by a summary of our CIP submittal to the Council. Basically, we did not add any funds to our CIP and what we did was move funds around within the CIP to a few new projects, and to fund existing projects. As you can see, the majority of those funds were moved from Kaua`i Police Department's (KPD) Kapa'a Police Substation. The theme was to move funds to "shovel-ready" types of projects, projects that were on the books for State Transportation Improvement Program (STIP) matching our federal aid matching and pretty much projects that are ready to go in design and ready to closely being bid out for construction. If you look at the summary, again, pretty much a plus or minus on the Proposed Budget Ordinance. We also moved moneys from Puhi Road Phase II. That project got pushed out to 2022. I think we pretty much are completed with Phase I, and tying up small punch-list items, but that road has been completed, and is working really well. Part of the discussion on the deferral was that there is no immediate need right now to push forward on Puhi Road Phase II, but we are doing the planning part of it. There is a couple housecleaning measures, you will see some ins and outs on East Kaua`i development of one hundred twenty-seven thousand dollars ($127,000). Kalaheo Fire Station improvements were made and the Housing Agency helped with Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) funding, so there is maintenance work that is left. That money was also March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 2 moved out. The first add in would be Kawaihau, Haua'ala, and Mailihuna Complete Streets Project that is on our STIP list for Fiscal Year 2019 and that is in design currently and then there will be a lot of State meetings coming up. That funding is our County portion match for the 80/20. Below that, we will skip down and loop back to the Ki ilauea, Koloa Road. The other big-ticket items are our collector roads. Below that is Maluhia and K6loa and our focus has been roads —, bridges —, highways — focused projects. So that is our additional need for our matching funds for the collector road that is on the STIP. It is funded and split in two (2) years, Fiscal Year 2018 and 2019, we are asking for more funds because of the size of the project. Right below that is the additional eighty hundred fifty thousand dollars ($850,000) for that same project. As County match for federal funds, the 80/20 match. Right below that eight hundred fifty thousand dollars ($850,000) is the Olohena Improvements, which is additional match funding for that project, which is on Fiscal Year 2019 STIP. That is the same capital-type project of Olohena to do the reconstruction and improvements on Olohena. That would be our County match. We already, I think we have one million dollars ($1,000,000)in the budget for that. So the total or Olohena would be one million four hundred thousand dollars ($1,400,000) County match for seven million dollar ($7,000,000) project estimate. Payroll and personnel project, they needed additional funding to do, I think it is to acquire a new software that they have been working on. I know they had some challenges, but I think their solution and I think if you want more detail, I can swing back to it. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: That one we will take when HR comes in. We will do all the ones that have "W' in the front. I think you did a good summary on the bond fund projects, and I think we will just stay on that for now. We will look at the bond fund projects, and again, we are looking at Public Works. So it is the bond-funded projects that start with a "W" on them and if we have any questions regarding any of those projects, we will go through this now and once we get through the bond fund projects, we can move on to the other funds. Do we have any questions from the Members? Councilmember Yukimura. Councilmember Yukimura: Thank you. Good morning. Lima Ola, do we discuss that now, or do we wait until Housing comes? Committee Chair Kaneshiro: We are going to wait for Housing. If you see that second column, there are letters in front of the bond projects. Councilmember Yukimura: Excuse me, you just said that. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: All the ones with "Ws" is Public Works and anything without"W," we will take on Thursday. Councilmember Yukimura: Is there a description of what is going to be done with the Kapa'a Police Substation? Committee Chair Kaneshiro: I am sorry to interrupt, I know you mentioned we did not add projects, but we actually just passed a bond float, I think it was a few months ago. So we do have those added projects, which the Kapa'a Police Substation is one of those projects that was on that bond float. Mr. Tresler: Yes. Our original amount was fourteen million dollars ($14,000,000) and we added twenty-six million dollars ($26,000,000)bond float, which is indicated when you look at "W," it has an eighteen (18) in front of it and if it has that eighteen(18), that is part of the recent bond float, the twenty-six million dollars($26,000,000) bond float. The Kapa'a Police Substation, we have a description. What is targeted for is to March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 3 be located in Kawaihau District on Mahelona site. They had site control and now they do not. So part of their agreement to utilizing the funds now for other projects that are ready is that they have some work to do on, again, there is a new board and to acquire site control. So we are helping, and Doug Haigh has stepped through Lyle's direction, to help them with that process, such as the planning process and environmental process for that project. Councilmember Yukimura: So they do not have site control? Mr. Tresler: Yes, they actually did originally and then something had changed and so now they are having to go back through the new board for approval. Councilmember Yukimura: Our approval was based on them having site control. Mr. Tresler: Yes, they did, and something happened. I did not get the details of it, but what I was told was that they needed to re-go through the new board for preapprovals and they have their environmental assessment (EA) process to also go through. We are assisting them with that. They are also, I think Nadine at the State-level is actually doing a general plan of that area, too. Councilmember Yukimura: So it is even less certain? Mr. Tresler: I think that is all part of their discussion in there, and it is not like they do not... Councilmember Yukimura: So we are going to hold up $3,000,000? Mr. Tresler: We are actually in current discussions now about that funding. They have another project that is further along and went out to bid that needed additional funding, so we may handle that in this current year versus Fiscal Year 2019. Councilmember Yukimura: Well, I mean, are you going to be able to expend it if it is earmarked for the Police Substation? Are you talking about the (two million six hundred ninety-three thousand dollars ($2,693,000) that you are taking out the six million dollars ($6,000,000). Mr. Tresler: There is a balance of three million three hundred thousand dollars ($3,300,000) there. Point well taken, Councilmember Yukimura, and that has been a heated discussion about utilizing the funds now versus having it sit there. So there is a need. We do is have the Adolescent Treatment Center that is undergoing some value engineering, but in all indications there may be more funding needed. We are not sure at this point, but they also have projects at their training facility and their K-PAL building that is short funding for construction. Councilmember Yukimura: Where is that money? I mean we have to approve it. It is not like they can just use it as a slush fund to do any project that they want to. Mr. Tresler: Yes. That is certainly true. But what I am saying is that this is what we are proposing for Fiscal Year 2019. We are in discussions about the balance of the three million three hundred thousand dollars ($3,300,000) and we are not March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 4 really sure yet on where that will be allocated. So it could come up as a money bill moving forward, or it could be handled in the May supplemental submittal. Councilmember Yukimura: I think we want to know what projects you are looking at because I do not want, like two-day notice that you will use it for certain projects, which is what happened with the May submittal. Mr. Tresler: Obviously, if it is a money bill, it will come to the Council and it is too premature to discuss it, because we are just in discussions. You brought up the point about having three million three hundred thousand dollars ($3,300,000) sit there and it is a point well-taken. Obviously, our whole theme was to move money towards projects that are "shovel-ready," so to speak. Councilmember Yukimura: What is happening with the two million six hundred ninety dollars ($2,690,000)? Is that scattered in the bond fund? Mr. Tresler: Yes, if you look at the plus/minuses in there; there are additions and other amounts in parenthesis that nets out to basically zero. So it was bond funds moved around within the bond fund. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: There is a follow-up, too. Councilmember Yukimura: Yes, okay. Did we not used to have a sheet which had each project? Because some of this you are funding from several funds, and they are scattered all over and we do not know what the total funding is. Unless we add it up ourselves. I think it would be so much easier if you had the project that you had the different funds you are using, so we can see what the total is, and a short description about what it is. Mr. Tresler: I have that sheet in front of me and you subtract the projects. Councilmember Yukimura: Can you provide that to us? Mr. Tresler: Yes, I can provide you a copy of it. I would have to do some sorting, and organizing before that, but yes, we can provide you that. Councilmember Yukimura: Go ahead. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Council Chair Rapozo. Council Chair Rapozo: I just wanted to get some clarity. So the building...they were looking at the Mahelona site and you are saying there are problems with that site or something came up? Mr. Tresler: Yes. Council Chair Rapozo: The issue you are saying is with the board of the hospital? Mr. Tresler: My understanding is that there is a new board and so they need to present their plan and go through and gain approval. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works –Operating & CIP Page 5 Council Chair Rapozo: I had heard that they were doing a needs assessment as well, and that they, in fact, might have to capture or reclaim that land for their expansion. I cannot remember who I heard that from. So the money that we submitted with the bond application, you are saying—because I do not see the Kapa'a Police Substation in here. You know the Kapa'a Police Station? Mr. Tresler: In the bond? Council Chair Rapozo: In the bond fund. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Yes, it is. Mr. Tresler: It is W18013 where the negative two million six hundred ninety-three thousand dollars ($2,693,000) is coming out from. Right at the top. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Second on the top from the bond fund. Council Chair Rapozo: Okay. I am assuming KPD is negotiating that with the State, with the hospital? Mr. Tresler: Yes. Council Chair Rapozo: Is that still the plan though? If the hospital allows it, because we signed a long-term lease on that; right? A very long-term lease I think. As I remember. Mr. Tresler: I am not sure what happened with that. Council Chair Rapozo: We will follow-up. Thanks. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any further questions on this Kapa'a Police Substation line item? Councilmember Yukimura: If you are allocating three million three hundred thousand dollars ($3,000,000) (Inaudible). I think we would like to get a status report (Inaudible). So two (2) things. This thing is being proposed as a bill right now. The three million three hundred thousand dollars ($3,300,000) will be to the Kapa'a Substation, we would like to know what it is going to be used for in that line item. And two (2), we want to know what the status is of the site control? Because we would like to know how long it will take if this is a simple thing and just wait for the board to schedule a meeting is one thing. But if we are waiting for a general plan to be done for the site, how long is that going to take? Mr. Tresler: Yes, and I think everyone is cognizant of that situation, and that is the discussion of moving a lot of that three million three hundred thousand dollars ($3,300,000) over to another of their projects or some of it and then leaving an amount for planning and design. That is the discussion and the plan. So far as the project description, I do not have it. I have it for the new proposed description that preceded me. But that also went through the bond process, and that was discussed and provided. So we will resend that project description. Councilmember Yukimura: If the project cannot move forward, you are not actually going to be using it. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 6 Mr. Tresler: Councilmember, I am specifically addressing your—you want to understand what it was being used for. That was all discussed previously and I will provide that information. I just want to point that out that ongoing question, we will get KPD to answer that specifically on what is happening with site control. Councilmember Yukimura: Alright. Thank you. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Any other questions on this one? If there are any other line items, we will just go through the line items and have all the discussion. Once we are done, I will just cross it off. I do not expect us to have a question on every single one, but we will go through the ones that we have questions on. Any other questions? We will stick to the bond fund. Councilmember Yukimura: With the "W" Committee Chair Kaneshiro: With the "Ws." Councilmember Yukimura: So the `Aliomanu Road Improvements, that is two million dollars ($2,000,000), which will be completed in this Fiscal Year? Mr. Tresler: No. Councilmember Yukimura: No? Mr. Tresler: No. So `Aliomanu? Councilmember Yukimura: I mean the Fiscal Year 2019. Mr. Tresler: Yes, yes. Yes. We finalized the supplemental EA and actually in April 2018, we are going back to secure the easement with the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands (DHHL). That was a process that we needed to go through. Our projection is to secure permits by the end of the 2018 and go out to bid thereafter in the first quarter or as late as 2nd quarter 2019. Councilmember Yukimura: So you will finish probably? Mr. Tresler: We will is certainly go out to bid and start construction. LYLE TABATA, Acting County Engineer: We will start. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Chock. Councilmember Chock: I know, I think Councilmember Yukimura brought it up, last year in the previous budget we did have a different spreadsheet and I do not know if it was Keith behind that in providing some of the Excel timeframe that was categorized. Is that what you said you were looking at, that the request was? Mr. Tresler: Yes. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 7 Councilmember Chock: Yes. I am a little bit more lost this year because of it and I like that format and if it is possible, that would be helpful. Because I think what will happen, we will go through the list and the same questions will come up so far as timing and so forth. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: If we can take note on the CIP projects that are coming up on Thursday. Those were probably put in the same format. Any more questions on Aliomanu? Councilmember Yukimura: I do have a question on pump station. That will be completed in this Fiscal Year? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: In 2019? Mr. Tresler: Yes, it is being bid out, actually, last week. We hope to award the contract. Councilmember Yukimura: May I go on to Puhi Road? Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Any other questions? Okay, we can move on to Puhi Road. Council Chair Rapozo. Council Chair Rapozo: This Ka'ana Building Energy Initiatives. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: We are going to wait for... Council Chair Rapozo: Sorry, there is no "W." I am sorry about that. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: No problem. Mr. Tresler: That was part of the current bond float. Council Chair Rapozo: Right, but I was just curious on where we are at, but I will wait for the right department. Mr. Tresler: We are not anywhere right now. We just started trying to get organized on that project. Council Chair Rapozo: Got it. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Puhi Road. Councilmember Yukimura: I had a question about the Ka'ana Building, too. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Let us wait. Councilmember Yukimura: I want to tell them what the question is so they can have it on Thursday. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Sure. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 8 Councilmember Yukimura: It feels like we have spent so much on the Ka'ana Building...that is the police building; right? On the Ka'ana Building energy for a decade, we have been spending money on it. Mr. Tresler: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: I want to know what is the total amount we have spent on the energy system since that building was built and when is the end in sight? Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Okay. We got that question down and we will send it over. Councilmember Yukimura: Great, thank you. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember, you are on Puhi Road and the note that it is going to get delayed to 2022. Councilmember Yukimura: That is why we are taking money out and we are just leaving fifty thousand dollars ($50,000)? Mr. Tresler: For planning and design, yes. Councilmember Yukimura: Why the delay? Mr. Tresler: It is two-fold. Right now, there are other priorities such as the collector roads that we made a priority on the STIP funding and we only get a certain amount of STIP funding annually seven million dollars ($7,000,000) to ten million dollars ($10,000,000). So the next Fiscal Year 2018-2019 and 2020, those collector road projects pretty much take up the majority of that funding and, in fact,we are requesting more than what we are known to normally get in an annual basis in case others fall out, we may get more funding. Puhi Road as we said is functioning very well, basically it went from the highway all the way down to the first part of Puhi industrial, or Kaneka Street and the other section of\the road going past the commercial center is actually in good shape. Mr. Tabata: Yes. So if you remember a couple of years ago, when Puhi Phase II was imminent, about to start, we took some islandwide resurfacing moneys and we paved from Kaana to connect the subdivision. That has been resurfaced and that gave us time to then complete the planning and design for Phase II. Because we have other more pressing needs presently, as Mr. Tresler mentioned, Olohena, and Koloa and Maluhia, we are redirecting the STIP funds, so that we can move those projects up forward. Councilmember Yukimura: That is good. You are actually putting it back into the pot. Mr. Tabata: Right. Mr. Tresler: It is still in the system. Mr. Tabata: It is in the system. The project is still in the system and we are just deferring it a couple years, so we can do these other measures first. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 9 Councilmember Yukimura: That makes sense as long as we are not deferring preventative maintenance. Mr. Tabata: No, no. Councilmember Yukimura: Alright. That's good. Thank you. Mr. Tabata: That preventative maintenance is from a different CIP. Because this road was resurfaced completely. Councilmember Yukimura: Yes. Excellent, thank you. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Chock. Councilmember Chock: In regards to the Puhi Road Phase II, I know there are issues within the complex, flow issues that have come up. Parking, and so forth. I just wanted to know, because I know you folks did do some planning Phase II for parking, along the road. So I was wondering if that is being taken into consideration. I do not know what oversight we had, but I heard things wanting one-way flow. Because what you have is cars parked on both sides of the roads, it is very dangerous and difficult in the industrial areas. Mr. Tabata: So the industrial park itself is different. Councilmember Chock: I understand that. I guess my point is there should be some coordination in the planning of it, given the fact that they have issues coming up. I just wanted to know if that is being taken into consideration in the Phase II. Mr. Tabata: No. It is not part of the Phase II project. It is not part of the federal-aid roadway. But we have received comments within the industrial subdivision. We will have to get back to that association. Councilmember Chock: We have parking right now happening on Puhi Road in front of the industrial area. Mr. Tabata: Yes. There was a plan to accommodate parking for that section of roadway. Councilmember Chock: On our side? Mr. Tabata: On Puhi Road, yes. Councilmember Chock: Okay, that is what I was wondering. Thank you. Mr. Tabata: There was a sidewalk connecting to that subdivision. Councilmember Chock: Right. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Any further questions on Puhi Road? I do want to thank you folks because I think two (2) budgets ago, Puhi Road was all the craze. We were getting complaints about Puhi Road nonstop and I think ever since the work you did on it, I March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 10 have not heard anything about Puhi Road since. So thanks for that. Councilmember Yukimura. Councilmember Yukimura: What was the total amount to finish Phase I? You can send it later, if you want. Mr. Tabata: I believe it was just over four million dollars ($4,000,000), just short of four million dollars ($4,000,000), I believe. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. How long a stretch did we work on? About half a mile? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Just short. Councilmember Yukimura: Thank you. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: The four million dollars ($4,000,000)was the total cost or our portion? Mr. Tabata: Total cost, yes. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Did we use STIP on that project? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: So we only paid twenty percent (20%) of four million dollars ($4,000,000)? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Any further questions? We will move on from Puhi Road. Councilmember Yukimura. Councilmember Yukimura: Niumalu Bridge Replacement, I noticed it is in two (2) places in the budget, so what is the total cost for that? Six hundred fifty thousand dollars ($650,000) and then another fifty thousand dollars ($50,000) and it is still in the bond fund. Do you see on page 3, in the middle of the page, Niumalu Bridge Replacement, fifty thousand dollars ($50,000) and then page 2, which we are on right now, Bridge Replacement, six hundred fifty thousand dollars ($650,000). Is the total cost seven hundred thousand dollars ($700,000) or is there other places that you also have... Mr. Tresler: No, Niumalu is a County-funded project. Councilmember Yukimura: Totally County. Mr. Tresler: The fifty thousand dollars ($50,000) reflected was original funding of the project. The six hundred fifty thousand dollars ($650,000) was with the new bond float and I think they assigned it a different project number. That is the funds that were allocated from the bond float. Councilmember Yukimura: I guess there is a good reason why they assigned a different bond number...is it to confuse us about what the total cost is? It is possible. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 11 Committee Chair Kaneshiro: I think what they did was they put all of the new bond fund projects, 2018, you can see after the letter, there is a number 2018. It shows that all these first projects are all the new bond float projects. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Next year on thenext go around, it will end up being just in alphabetical order next to each other, but I think they tried to highlight that these were the new bond fund projects on the top. Yes, it does get a little confusing when you have some money in the original bond and then you have some money in the new bond. Councilmember Yukimura: I think there might be some that are General Fund, but anyway. So the master sheet would just really help, I think, to see the big picture. Thank you. Is Niumalu Bridge a priority bridge presumably? Mr. Tresler: Yes, we are working on the planning of that bridge presently. Councilmember Yukimura: Do you have a total bridge plan? Like we have a highway road plan where we have an assessment of their condition, and then we have the priorities based on their condition? The ones that could fall apart, we are going to do first rather than the ones that just need a little bit of maintenance. Mr. Tresler: We do biennual bridge inspection and we have that program, but those are for federal aid bridges. Councilmember Yukimura: For what? Mr. Tresler: Federal aid bridges. Part of our discussion in the GET. Presentation was to implement a Countywide bridge inspection and replacement maintenance program. Councilmember Yukimura: Good. Mr. Tresler: We have the plan. As we get full GET funding, I think the plan was to implement our Countywide bridge, annual bridge inspection and maintenance program. It is needed, very much needed. Councilmember Yukimura: Are we going to have a Countywide bridge replacement plan or...I mean this is CIP, right? So, it is not maintenance. Mr. Tresler: You are right. We are talking about CIP now, but what I am talking about is using GE funds, which we can do the annual inspections, maintenance and replacement in conjunction with our CIP. Councilmember Yukimura: Just having an inspection program where they go out and say, "This is so and so about the bridge," does not give you a comprehensive plan that prioritizes which bridge to do first. Mr. Tresler: Yes, and part of it is identifying inventory, Councilmember. When you do the inspections, it is to inventory all the County's bridges, March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works—Operating & CIP Page 12 culverts and so forth, and then do the rating and inspections and have that list. Then can you can develop the program thereafter. Councilmember Yukimura: Therefore, your first expenditure for GET funds is going to be to develop this system and plan? We did not give you folks replavement money for roads until you came up with a plan that we saw was based on objective criteria and was not just political pull and all of that; right? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Councilmember, we do have a number of bridges slated right now that need attention, and Niumalu is one of the highest priorities right now. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Mr. Tabata: Already programmed is Puakea and Opaeka`a and they are already programed in. As we develop the balance of the projects of the next phase of projects, they will be coming forward, but we have to get them on the STIP. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Well, not all of them qualify for the STIP. Is Niumalu a STIP project? Mr. Tabata: No, Niumalu does not. Anything over 200 feet in length does, and that is the guideline. Councilmember Yukimura: Yes, and like you have been doing with the roads, you have been strategic in where you have STIP money to leverage that; right? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay, but I still do not get that by next year you are going to have a comprehensive evaluation of the bridges done and a plan. Mr. Tabata: We have evaluations of all of our bridges. Councilmember Yukimura: Do you have a plan then, like we have a plan... Mr. Tabata: We presented it when we asked for the GE moneys and funds. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Mr. Tabata: We had a huge spreadsheet and we just need to...now that the money is approved, complete scheduling and lay it out. We have a project layout for a number of years already determined as the STIP funds are available. Councilmember Yukimura: Are they based on annual inspections of all the bridges and not just the federal aid, but all? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Well, not all of the culverts. Those are systems that we need to still identify and the LIM software that is presently being worked on by the Planning Department and IT and the Department of Public Works, a number of March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 13 agencies in the County, will allow us to memorialize the information. Right now these information are... Councilmember Yukimura: Or digitize it? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: I get it. Mr. Tabata: ...on paper drawings and that is part of the next step is to identify everything we have. Whatever bridge that is under federal aid is identified and inspected. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay, so you have bridges under federal aid and then you have bridges not under federal aid, right? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: And then you have culverts, is that basically it? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: Bridges under federal aid, not under federal aid, and then culverts. Right now the bridges under federal aid are annually inspected and the bridges not on federal aid, are they annually... Mr. Tabata: We have identified specific bridges that the same inspectors...we use County funds to inspect and we are just beginning that process. Councilmember Yukimura: When do you expect to have in place all the inspections done and kind of a comprehensive approach? Mr. Tabata: I would like to say that it would take us a good six (6) to nine (9) months to complete. Councilmember Yukimura: Is that on your agenda? Mr. Tabata: We are just changing the order to add the County bridges. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Mr. Tabata: The present, upcoming inspection. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay, because that would be important if you are going to look at the full funding of the GET, although I hope some of it are going to be used for transit and not just all for roads and bridges, but even so, there should be some money to bring them up to speed. That plan is kind of needed, right? Mr. Tabata: Yes. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 14 Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Do you plan to eventually add culverts? How many culverts do we have? There seem really like a lot. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: In prior meetings, Keith Suga came up and said that they do not have the inventory of every single culvert that they have and Mike Tresler said as another budget cycle comes up, if we have more GET money, then that is the time that they would go out and try to look for every single culvert and come up with a more sophisticated plan. I think they do have a plan for what we know and they are trying to address it. You can see that they are trying to address the major needed bridges right now, which is like Niumalu...they have three (3) bridges on the list already, so I think they are working on it. Sometimes it is a matter of patience and resources. Councilmember Yukimura: I agree. I agree that culverts are a lesser priority, but we can just keep going like we did with roads and address whatever roads we think and then not set aside a small amount to actually do the inspection and get everything into a comprehensive system. I do not know how important culverts are? But I know one culvert that up in Wailua Homesteads in a big flood actually caused drownings long, long ago. They can be important to public health and safety, and I just feel better if we had a comprehensive system and I think the public would, too. Just so you know that you are going through a rationale and objective priority process. I hope to see at some point, because it should not—I do not know how much money it would take to actually put a comprehensive plan in place? Mr. Tabata: It is not so much the money right now. It is the manpower. Councilmember Yukimura: Is it the time? Mr. Tabata: As I mentioned in the Operating Budget, we are still short three (3) Engineers in the Engineering Division. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Mr. Tabata: We need to fill those slots and build capacity, at the same time, what you are requesting is expected of us, and so we will get there. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Thank you. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Is the Niumalu Bridge single lane? Mr. Tabata: Yes, it is single lane. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Is it going to remain single lane? Mr. Tabata: The final design will be determined by public input. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Okay. Mr. Tabata: We will be going to the public and performing community meetings. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Yukimura. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 15 Councilmember Yukimura: Single lane is a traffic calmer, though, is it not? Mr. Tabata: Yes, it is. Councilmember Yukimura: We need to be conscious of that, especially if there are kids running along that road. Do not throw away that advantage, unconsciously, we really got to think about that. Thank you. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Any other questions on Niumalu Bridge? If not, we can move on. Councilmember Yukimura: Waimea. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Yukimura. Councilmember Yukimura: Waimea Wastewater Treatment R-1, which I think is a wonderful thing. That is going to give us sewage effluent that we can use for non-potable purposes, right? Mr. Tabata: Yes. This is a County match for EPA grant. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Will that then give us enough money to get the job done? Mr. Tabata: Yes. At this point, yes. The final design. Councilmember Yukimura: The final design. So, the goal for this FY is to complete the final design? Mr. Tabata: Yes, and then we will seek...because we would have expended all of the EPA grant and we will seek SRF funding to do the construction. Mr. Tresler: Our original budget was two hundred nine thousand dollars ($209,000). We expended one hundred seventy thousand dollars ($170,000). Councilmember Yukimura: Last year's budget? Mr. Tresler: No, the beginning budget. The original budget back in 2015, so this is the balance remaining. It has been in design and have been in process. Councilmember Yukimura: Yes. I went to one of their community meetings and it is going to be a good thing. I appreciate the work on it. Helicopter Hangar is a "W." What is the total amount? I think I saw it in two (2) other places. Mr. Tresler: Where are you? Because it says "F." Councilmember Yukimura: Page 2 has five hundred forty... Committee Chair Kaneshiro: I do not know if it should be an "F" in front of it, but it has a "W" right now. Mr. Tresler: We assist Fire on that project. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 16 Councilmember Yukimura: I have a note that there is another place of two hundred thirty-five thousand dollars ($235,000) for a helicopter pad. Mr. Tresler: When the design is completed and what we are currently waiting for is our design consultants had completed it, but we are waiting for more State money. The Fire Department is trying to obtain more funding from the State. Councilmember Yukimura: What is the total cost? Okay, I found it. On page 3, about one-third of the way down, that is two hundred thirty-five dollars ($235,000) and on page 2, it is five hundred forty thousand dollars ($540,000), that is seven hundred seventy-five thousand dollars ($775,000), and you said it is going to cost more and we are waiting for State moneys. Mr. Tresler: That is my understanding and the update that I was provided. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Maybe Fire might be able to update us on that one. Councilmember Yukimura: On Thursday? Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. We want to know the total budget and the plan for the year, what we can expect in the time span of the FY, and hopefully there is no more expense. I want to know what the operating maintenance is going to be on an annual basis. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: That would be a Fire question. Councilmember Yukimura: Yes. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: In their Operating Budget. Okay. Any further questions on that? If not, we will move on. Councilmember Yukimura: Can somebody explain the Wailua NPDES (National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System) Effluent modification design? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: Is that the only amount in this FY budget? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Mr. Tabata: What we have in here is moneys that much like last year, we applied for an SRF loan and while seeking the loan approval and then apply for and receive, we have to have a placeholder. Once we get the SRF funds, then this becomes available. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 17 Councilmember Yukimura: What is the total? Mr. Tabata: We are asking for half a million ($500,000) to finish the design. Councilmember Yukimura: Then the five hundred thousand dollars ($500,000) will be available for other purposes? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Like last year when we came and we asked for the money on a money bill because we had to meet a deadline, of which we thought we would have bond funds for, it did not come and then we had to appropriate money and then the bond fund came. We put the money that we asked for from sewer fund back into the sewer fund and then we had the bond fund to back us up. This is for the next phase. Councilmember Yukimura: That is the total cost. It is the next phase, which is the design phase? Mr. Tabata: Right. First, we did the feasibility study and then now we are going to complete the design. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay, good. What is the final outcome on this? Mr. Tabata: The design that we are currently working on is to find an alternate means of effluent disposal and abandon our outfall because the conditions that the Department of Health has placed on us, make it almost impossible for us to meet. We had searched for a feasible option that we came up with was to install a leach field to dispose of the effluent when we cannot send the effluent to the golf course. Presently, we are looking at a design that will place our leach field in the soccer field area between the plant and the golf course. Councilmember Yukimura: Are you looking at the possibility of creating R-1 water? Mr. Tabata: Yes. That is also part of the plan upgrade. Councilmember Yukimura: Excellent. At least look at that alternative. Mr. Tabata: As Jason Kagimoto mentioned, we looked at a pretreatment screening opportunity that we just completed a pilot program for. The results of that, we are hoping will yield the ability for us to create R-1 water more effectively. Councilmember Yukimura: Because as was said from Kiahuna, his water bill is high because he has to water his lawns and landscaping. If he could use R-1 water instead of potable water, that would be a wonderful way to reuse. Mr. Tabata: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: And cut down on potable water use, which they do not need and it is extremely expensive. For that purpose, anyway. Good. Thank you. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Any further questions? Keep moving on. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 18 Mr. Tabata: Doug is here and he can talk about the hangar now. Sorry, he just arrived, if you do not mind? Councilmember Yukimura: As long as we do not need Fire here. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Sure. DOUGLAS HAIGH, Chief of Buildings: Good morning, Doug Haigh, Department of of Public Works. Councilmember Yukimura: Good morning, Doug. May I? So I was asking questions about the helicopter hangar, which is in this FY 2019 CIP Budget at five hundred forty thousand dollars ($540,000) on page 2, and two hundred thirty-five thousand dollars ($235,000) on page 3. So that is seven hundred seventy-five thousand dollars ($775,000). What is that going to get us? They said, also, we are awaiting for State moneys, so what is the total budget? Mr. Haigh: The current estimate based on maybe fifty percent (50%) design is about one million three hundred thousand dollars ($1,300,000). So we are really hoping and relying on getting additional funds from the State. Councilmember Yukimura: Have we requested that money from the State? Mr. Haigh: My understanding is the Fire Chief has been working on that and it is moving along. I do not know the details. Actually I saw him last week and he mentioned that it was moving along, but I do not know where it is at in the process. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. So we have basically about half the money? Mr. Haigh: That is correct. Councilmember Yukimura: So we should know by the end of the session if it is going to be a State match. If there is not, then what? Mr. Haigh: I am delegating funds to the Fire Department, where I am focusing on the design and construction and relying on them to obtain the funds. Councilmember Yukimura: So this will be for design or for construction? Mr. Haigh: We are under design now, and additional funds is for construction. Councilmember Yukimura: Yes, you do say "construction." What is the difference between "helicopter hangar pad," and "helicopter hangar construction." Mr. Haigh: I am just assuming that is what Finance wants to call it at the moment, but it is the same project. Councilmember Yukimura: One is "W" and one is "F." It is the same project. Thank you. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 19 Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Thanks, Doug. So we have gotten through the new bond float projects. Everything below are existing projects that have been on the bond before. Do we have any questions on any of the other projects? Councilmember Chock? Councilmember Chock: What is left on the Anini Bridge, the thirty-one (31). What do we have to finish? Mr. Tabata: I believe it is closure moneys. We had a couple of outstanding punch-list items and once all of that is completed, then we can closeout the project, but it is not closed out yet. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: What is the status on the auto shop improvements? Mr. Tresler: Currently, we just started procuring out professional design engineer. Doug, again, is helping our auto shop with that. We have done at least one or two of them. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: That should increase the capacity of the auto shop, right? Mr. Tresler: Yes, we really need that. So we are pushing forward on that project. I E-mailed you the Public Works projects off of that sheet and I do not know if you want to print it off and have it in hand? We are close to getting through. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: We are moving through okay and we take our first break maybe print out the project list, but I do not want to go back through the projects we already talked about. So thanks for that though. Councilmember Yukimura, you had a follow-up? Councilmember Yukimura: Yes. So that auto shop improvements, which I, too, remember as quite needed. Were we going to build in another bay or something like that? Mr. Tresler: No, create a mezzanine. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Mr. Tresler: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: Can I ask a question about the biennual bridge inspection? Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: How much does it cost us to match the moneys for biennual bridge inspection generally? Is it in the ballpark of fifty thousand dollars ($50,000)? Mr. Tresler: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: Where is it right now in this budget? Mr. Tresler: It is biennual, so... March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 20 Councilmember Yukimura: Oh, biennual. Mr. Tresler: We just completed. Councilmember Yukimura: Are you going to put it in next year's budget? Mr. Tresler: FY 2020, yes. Mr. Tabata: I believe so. Mr. Tresler: It is biennual, so not FY 2019, so it would be FY 2020. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. What is the total cost? Is it an 80/20 match too? Mr. Tresler: Yes. Mr. Tabata: Yes, I believe so. Councilmember Yukimura: So it is three hundred thousand dollars ($300,000)? Mr. Tabata: I believe so, yes. Councilmember Yukimura: Twenty percent (20%) match. Well I am glad we have the twenty percent (20%). Okay. I have a question on collector roads. Is that going to be part of the Olohena...what are we using the two hundred thousand dollars ($200,000) for? Mr. Tresler: There are several collector road funding, but in combined, certain roads have been identified for the matching funds. Those other funds will be used in conjunction for Koloa, Maluhia, Olohena, and the Kawaihau projects. So that gives us some flexibility in case we need contingency or some overrun funding. Councilmember Yukimura: So it is kind of a catch-all collector road. Mr. Tresler: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: How come two (2) of them? Mr. Tresler: We can do housecleaning in May. Councilmember Yukimura: So regarding complete streets, you folks are coming forth with your complete streets grant description; right? Councilmember Kawakami was reading off the amounts of moneys that we get in complete streets grants and I asked that that be disclosed in terms of how the moneys are being used, income, expenditures, and... Mr. Tresler: I followed up with Lee and Lee is here. He provided me one summary, and then what our projected revenue is for the next Fiscal Year, which is seventy-nine thousand dollars ($79,000). March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works—Operating & CIP Page 21 LEE STEINMETZ: Good morning. I am Lee Steinmetz, Transportation Planner with the Planning Department. What I wanted to go over, what I understood the request was for information on some of the safe routes to school grants and various funds that we have. So I was going to present that and can follow-up with some document, if you would like. There are a couple of different funding sources that we have. And it gets kind of confusing because of that, but one is the safe routes to school special fund. This is funding that we received from the State every year, based on a surcharge on traffic violations on speeding violations. There is, I think, a ten dollar ($10) surcharge on moving violations, but it is a twenty-five dollar ($25) surcharge if it is in a school zone. That money is it collected statewide and each county receives a certain amount of that funding based on a formula where fifty percent (50%) is distributed equally among the counties, and the other fifty percent (50%) is distributed based on population that lives within walking distance to schools. So obviously O`ahu gets the most money in that fifty percent (50%) and Kaua`i gets the least amount of money. We get about, on average, eighty thousand dollars ($80,000) a year in that funding. That money is totally up to the county how it is spent, provided that it is for safe routes to school projects. That money needs to be spent within three years of receipt of those funds. Since we receive a relatively small amount for street projects, we cannot stockpile those funds for ten years and do large projects. We have to use it on small projects or matching funds for larger projects and that is exactly what we have been doing. So generally speaking, we use it for design fees for projects that can be within that amount. We use it for matches of larger projects or as a portion of a match for larger projects. Then we also use it for small projects. If there are small projects that are maybe just striping and signage, for example, we can use the funding for that as well. So far we have used a little under two thousand dollars ($2,000) of that funding for geotechnical testing related to the elevated boardwalk and then we used two hundred thousand dollars ($200,000) of that funding...oh, let me tell you what we have in terms of totals. Right now our balance in that fund is one hundred five thousand dollars ($105,000) and we will be receiving another close to eighty thousand dollars ($80,000) in April of this year. So later this year, our balance will be one hundred eighty-four thousand four hundred eighty-two dollars ($184,482). So far with the funding we used that small amount for geotechnical testing. We used two hundred thousand dollars ($200,000) as a match for the construction of the Kawaihau elevated boardwalk because that is within the walking zone of Kapa'a Elementary and does serve as a walking route for some people and also to Kapa'a High School and St. Catherine's school. We also used fifty-seven thousand dollars ($57,000), close to eighty-eight thousand dollars ($58,000) as a match for the design, the environmental and planning work for the Kawaihau, Haua'ala, Mailihuna complete streets project. Mr. Tresler: Can I just give you a summary?We received three hundred sixty-seven thousand dollars ($367,000) and we spent two hundred sixty-two thousand dollars ($262,000), and we net one hundred five thousand dollars ($105,000) as of November. We will be getting the other seventy-nine thousand dollars ($79,000). Mr. Steinmetz: That complete street projects serves St. Catherine's and Kapa'a Elementary, so it is eligible as a safe routes to school project. Councilmember Yukimura: Sounds good. Fifty-eight thousand dollars ($58,000) for the environmental planning, that is for the "peanut" roundabout that will happen eventually. Mr. Steinmetz: Yes, that is part of the project. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works—Operating & CIP Page 22 Councilmember Yukimura: Right at the intersection of Kawaihau and Mailihuna. Can you explain the State pot are spread equally among the counties? Mr. Steinmetz: Correct. Councilmember Yukimura: So, divided four (4) ways? Mr. Steinmetz: Right. Councilmember Yukimura: How is the other fifty percent (50%) allocated? Mr. Steinmetz: It is divided proportionally based on the population within walking distance to elementary and middle schools. Councilmember Yukimura: If we actually planned our land use, so that we that most of our kids walk to school, we would proportionately get more of that money. Mr. Steinmetz: Yes, potentially. I am not sure that it would be a huge amount more, but we would get a small amount more. Councilmember Yukimura: What is the amount we get now? Mr. Steinmetz: Roughly, we get eighty thousand dollars ($80,000) per year. Councilmember Yukimura: Is that including the fifty percent (50%) that is done equally? Mr. Steinmetz: Right, that is the total. Councilmember Yukimura: What amount of that eighty thousand dollars ($80,000) is the fifty percent (50%), the second fifty percent (50%)? Mr. Steinmetz: I can check on that. I do not have that number. I just have the total number that we receive. Councilmember Yukimura: It would be interesting to know. Mr. Steinmetz: Sure. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay, if you could get that. Right now you have one hundred five thousand dollars ($105,000) present balance and you will get another eight thousand dollars ($80,000). Their Fiscal Year is? Mr. Steinmetz: It is the same as our FY. Councilmember Yukimura: So there will be one hundred eighty-five thousand dollars ($185,000). Do you have plans for how you are spending that? March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 23 Mr. Steinmetz: We do. We anticipate that we have a project that is grant funded, which I will be talking about anyway moment. The Kalaheo safe routes to school project and we want to do that design in-house and do that with local funds instead of federal funds. We may use some of the funding for that. We just completed a design, a multi- day design workshop in Kilauea to look at their full area around Kilauea School and there are a number of the projects and we will provide a presentation to you on that project at a later time. But, there are some things that we can do just with striping and signage that we would like to move forward with sooner rather than later, so we anticipate using some of the funds for that project as well. Our approach moving forward is really to do community workshops around each school and develop an action plan around each school and then use these funds to implement the quick things that we can do better and cheaper. Councilmember Yukimura: Councilmember Kawakami had a role in this law. Was it not a Kaua`i initiated law? Mr. Steinmetz: It was. Councilmember Kawakami introduced it at the legislature and Bev Brody from Get Fit Kaua`i was really instrumental in working with Councilmember Kawakami and our Mayor and the rest of our legislative team to help that get passed. Councilmember Yukimura: That is a real success story and I am proud of Kauai for that. Thank you. Mr. Steinmetz: We also have separate from that Special Fund, Hawai`i Department of Transportation receives federal funds that are earmarked for safe routes to school and those are from a previous transportation bill that was called"SAFETEA- LU" (Safe Accountable Flexible Efficient Transportation Equity Act: A Legacy for Users). These were leftover funds that are still being dispersed. We have applied for and received several grants for funding and this funding is one hundred percent (100%) federal funds, there is no local match required, so it is a really good funding source for larger projects although the maximum now of any grant is five hundred thousand dollars ($500,000). We receive three (3) grants in 2014. One was for Islandwide RRFB crosswalks. RRFB is rectangular rapid flashing beacon, so those are the flashing crosswalk lights, like we have on Rice Street or at the roundabout by Chiefess Kamakahelei Middle School. Let me explain that we applied for a grant amount, we are awarded that grant amount, but we actually do not receive that amount. It is reimbursable and we receive it in phases. We receive an amount for design and we receive an amount for construction. We do not receive a construction amount until we actually go out for construction. The amounts that I am giving you are the amounts that we applied for and that we were approved for, but the final amount that we actually receive will depend on the actual cost of construction. If it is less, we will not receive the full amount. If it is more, they may award us more pending how much money we have. For the RRFB crosswalks, the grant amount was two hundred forty-five thousand dollars ($245,000). That project, we actually put out to bid and then we had to stop the bid because right in the middle of that, the Federal Highway Administration had given approval for the use of these rapid flashing beacon in crosswalks and then they rescinded that approval, so we had to pull the bid because that was the essence of the entire project. Since then, they have re-allowed the use of those and so now we can go out to bid again. For Koloa School, some sidewalk improvements on Po`ipu Road in front of the school on Pa'anau Road on the side of the school, we received a grant of four hundred eighty-four thousand eight hundred seventy-five dollars ($484,875). That project is currently in design and environmental and according to the current schedule, we are anticipating construction in 2019 or 2020. King Kaumuali`i School, we also received a grant of four hundred ten thousand March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works –Operating & CIP Page 24 dollars ($410,000) for improvements on Hanama`ulu Road. That is also in design and environmental and we are looking at the same timeframe for construction for 2019 or 2020. In 2016, we received a grant for Kalaheo Elementary School, which included repair and reconstruction on Puu Road and also a park and walk on one of the side streets that accesses Pu`u Road from the highway, so people do not have to drive all the way around to the school, but they can park on the side street and walk to eliminate some of the congestion around the school. That project is also in design and environmental and we are anticipating construction in 2020 or 2021. Those seem like incredibly long timelines, but projects with federal funding just take a while to get through the environmental, get through all the clearances through HDOT and FHWA and so that is why those timelines are so long and also why we would like to start using some of the Special Fund money for design because it is partly the procurement process that really delays federal projects. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Yukimura. Councilmember Yukimura: Two hundred forty-five thousand dollars ($245,000)—you went out to bid, hold it, and then went out...what is that going to be spent for? Are those for crosswalks around the island that are these RRFB? Mr. Steinmetz: Right. Councilmember Yukimura: What is the four hundred eighty-four thousand dollars ($484,000) going to be used for? Mr. Steinmetz: Koloa School. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Four hundred ten thousand dollars ($410,000) will be used for King Kaumuali`i School. Mr. Steinmetz: Correct. Councilmember Yukimura: King Kaumuali`i on Hanama`ulu Road, correct? Mr. Steinmetz: Correct. Councilmember Yukimura: There has been numerous requests over the last six (6) years, may be, for traffic calming along that road. I am presuming those kinds of improvements will be included as you do these safe routes to school because calming the traffic is part of safe routes. Mr. Steinmetz: Yes. There are traffic-calming elements, yes. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay, I know some people will be very happy and that is 2019 or 2020. Mr. Steinmetz: Correct. Councilmember Yukimura: Then Kalaheo Elementary School, you said a sidewalk on Pu`u Road and park and walk, which is great. Is that your first park and walk project? Mr. Steinmetz: Yes, I guess, actually a funded project, yes. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 25 Councilmember Yukimura: Thank you. Are you going to provide that to us in writing? Mr. Steinmetz: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Thank you. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Thank you. Any further questions on this page of Bond Funds? We are on page 2. Councilmember Yukimura. Councilmember Yukimura: Just a heads-up to the Planning Department that I would like to know what the status of the East Kaua`i Development Plan is. Eiwa Street, LCC, HCB, side improvements. I would like to get a report on that because I do not know if the Department of Public Works considered us done here on Eiwa Street or if there is going to be more, but it is kind of crazy with people walking and cars going in and out. If the transit stop is going to be expanded or more frequent with buses coming in, are we planning for the future? Mr. Steinmetz: There are additional improvements on Eiwa Street that are part of the TIGER project and the Lihu`e Town Core Mobility and Revitalization Project and that will be implemented as part of that project. Councilmember Yukimura: Not right now, but is there some write up about what exactly those improvements are going to be here? Mr. Steinmetz: We can send that to you. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. That would be helpful. Thank you. Fuel management, Chair. Are we done with this project? How come there is sixty-five thousand dollars ($65,000) in here? Mr. Tabata: The Fuel Management Projects is ongoing. This was a phase that we were going to install more devices on vehicles to interface with the system, so it will collect data and transfer data to our mainframe. Councilmember Yukimura: Is that the next and final phase? Mr. Tabata: I believe it is the next phase funded. Every time we replace vehicles and equipment, we would need to fund. Councilmember Yukimura: Is it working? Mr. Tabata: Yes. The discrepancies of fuel use has been minimized or eliminated entirely. Councilmember Yukimura: So this money is for as we get new cars, we install these devices in those new cars? Mr. Tabata: Yes. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 26 Councilmember Yukimura: Why can we not just make it a part of procurement? That whenever we get a new vehicle, it is required in the contract or the procurement. Mr. Tresler: It is separate vendors. Councilmember Yukimura: I bet if you put it out, somebody will. Mr. Tabata: I never thought about specing a vehicle that way, but it is an after-market product. Councilmember Yukimura: What is it? Mr. Tabata: After-market. Meaning, after you purchase the vehicle, you can install, but... Councilmember Yukimura: Well, if somebody wants our bid, maybe. Mr. Tabata: Yes, I understand where you are coming from because is it the same for a piece of equipment. You can spec whatever engine you want, no matter where you purchase it from. Councilmember Yukimura: It might save us some few steps in time in bringing that new car aboard. Mr. Tabata: Okay. Councilmember Yukimura: If you can look into it, that would be good. Mr. Tresler: Back to the Eiwa Street. That actual project was completed and the balance of that fund is waiting for...I guess there was landscaping around the Historic County Building, this building, but nothing happened, so the funds are sitting there. As they mentioned, we do have that grant and the new project moving forward, so those funds will be utilized in that project. Councilmember Yukimura: If that is for landscaping of this building, that has been a vision for a long time. I think there was a budget. I think Chair, you were involved in it. Mr. Tresler: That is what the eighteen thousand dollars ($18,000) is for. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay, good. Thank you. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Any further questions on this page? Councilmember Yukimura: The Hanapepe Fuel Tanks. That was there last year and so did we not get to it or something? Mr. Tresler: Yes, our attention got called to Princeville. Our Auto Shop Superintendent was in charge of that project, so his attention got shifted to an March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 27 issue in Princeville and so we will be circling back for that to Hanapepe after that Princeville fuel tank issue is resolved. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. So, it is just a matter of installing new fuel tanks, right? Mr. Tresler: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: And that is going to get done this coming fiscal year? Mr. Tresler: Yes, that is the plan. Councilmember Yukimura: Is that the report, pretty much? Thank you. That is about it. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: If there are no other questions, we will move on to the next page. Any questions on the Department of Public Works' items for this page? Councilmember Yukimura: What is HCB and LCC site improvement, the first item? Mr. Tabata: Historic County Building and Lihu`e Civic Center. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. So we can take that money and put it in our landscaping. Okay, thank you. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Is the Kalaheo Fire Station complete? Mr. Tresler: Yes, their improvements were. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Any other questions from the Members? Councilmember Yukimura: Yes, Kanaele Road slope stabilization of fifty thousand dollars ($50,000). What is the status of that project? Mr. Tabata: That is in design and this is just the balance after we encumbered the funds for the design. Once the design is completed, then we will be coming back for construction funds. This is all County-funded entirely. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Thank you. Kanaele is where our transfer station is, right? Mr. Tabata: I believe it is further up. Councilmember Yukimura: Oh, okay. Mr. Tresler: Yes, further in to St. Catherine's. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Any other questions on page 3? Kapahi Bridge, they already talked about the bridges that they are trying to address. We see they added money in for Kawaihau, Haua`ala, as STIP money. Councilmember Yukimura. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works –Operating & CIP Page 28 Councilmember Yukimura: My questions are all not "Ws." Committee Chair Kaneshiro: This Kilauea, Koloa Road improvements, is that with the Department of Public Works? Mr. Tresler: Yes, it is a combination and that is another one I asked Lee to be here to explain what that project is about. Okay, well. It is a flat program that involves Federal Fish and Wildlife and we want to do road improvements and a sidewalk, basically, that leads from there lighthouse project all the way through Kilauea Town. Our portion of this funding and there are going to be some roadway improvements is ten percent (10%) or less and it is highly leveraged more than the regular federal aid of 80/20. These moneys are slated for design work now and I think I was told by Lee that that would be our total amount of the matching funds. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: It is okay. We can send over a follow-up question. Mr. Tresler: Yes, we have all of the information and we can send that over. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Yukimura and then Councilmember Brun. Councilmember Yukimura: That is a wonderful vision. It is a sidewalk that is going to connect Kilauea Town to the Lighthouse. Mr. Tresler: Right. I think the hope is to minimize cars going to the lighthouse. Councilmember Yukimura: Yes, wonderful. They should put the Farmers Market back into town. That would minimize car traffic, too. So this money is our money and it is going to be less than ten percent (10%) of the total cost. Mr. Tresler: That is what I was told. Councilmember Yukimura: That is terrific. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Brun. Councilmember Brun: What are you folks doing with Kekaha Gardens? Mr. Tabata: The project is completed. That is just balance. Councilmember Brun: Thank you. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Yukimura. Councilmember Yukimura: Koloa Fire Station Improvements—that is in this year's fiscal 2018 budget, right, and it just did not get done? Mr. Tresler: Yes. It is still in the planning and design phase. Councilmember Yukimura: That is a lot for planning and design. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 29 Mr. Tresler: That is for construction too, but it is that they are currently in the design phase. Councilmember Yukimura: I see. Okay. It is mainly major repairs or is it some new things? I am sorry, I should know from last year. Mr. Tabata: I believe this project is to reroof and then paint. Councilmember Yukimura: Yes, that makes sense. Mr. Tabata: This project actually went over to Parks with the green box. Councilmember Yukimura: I am sorry. Mr. Tabata: This project went over to Parks. Mr. Tresler: Yes, it has a"W,"but it is a building improvement, so that is supposed to move over with Parks, but we still sometimes help those projects. Councilmember Yukimura: Yes, good. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Further questions from the Members? Councilmember Yukimura: This NPDES compliance, which is a "W" in the middle of page 3, two hundred eight thousand dollars ($208,000), is that the same project as the Wailua NPDES effluent modification? Mr. Tabata: I believe this is the Solid Waste funding. Councilmember Yukimura: For what? Mr. Tabata: For transfer stations. Councilmember Yukimura: Oh okay. That is for the consent decree improvements, right? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: We had a consent decree. Mr. Tabata: Yes. So this is for the design. This is just the balance of what is remaining. Councilmember Yukimura: It would really help if something else was in the title so it is a transfer station and we distinguish it from the sewers. Mr. Tabata: Again, this one is Solid Waste for Islandwide for consultant who is working on the present final design and permitting. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 30 Mr. Tresler: It is an AECOM contract that is ongoing and original funding was three hundred eighty-five thousand dollars ($385,000), so that is the balance. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Thank you. Can you tell us about the Rice Street Crossing Improvements? Mr. Tabata: These are funds that were put in place to look at additional sidewalks and street lighting. We are leaving these funds here because not part of the TIGER grant is the upgrade with State DOT to upgrade our street lighting, like they have on Nawiliwili Road and then to fund the replacement and they will take over the maintenance. Councilmember Yukimura: Do you think we need to wait until we put the utilities underground? Otherwise you are going to have... Mr. Tabata: I do not understand your question. Councilmember Yukimura: Well... Mr. Tabata: The improvements include... Councilmember Yukimura: You are going to change all the lights along Rice Street. Mr. Tabata: The directional/signal lighting at the intersections. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. So, this Rice Street Crossing Improvements is signal lighting. Mr. Tabata: Signalization improvements, yes. So, now they are using all those visual versus putting those...what sets the signals off is there is a loop in the ground, so these will replace the ground loops with visual recognition. Councilmember Yukimura: Like electronic eyes? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Then the programmable controllers that operate the signals will be replaced and modernized, and linked together with the DOT main office in Lihu`e. Councilmember Yukimura: Thank you. The Salt Pond Wastewater Improvements, we are tying the Salt Pond Park into the sewer system, right? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: That was on the agenda in the budget, so where are we now? Mr. Tabata: We are getting ready to go out for construction procurement. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 31 Councilmember Yukimura: And this is construction moneys then? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Mr. Tresler: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: So the design is there. Mr. Tresler: We actually are scheduled to advertise (inaudible) next month, in April. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Great. So, for sure to be completed in this coming fiscal year? Mr. Tresler: Yes, but funding pending. We are not sure how these bids actually come out until they do come out. Councilmember Yukimura: True. I have a question on Wa'a Road Drainage Study. Is Wa'a the road right here? Mr. Tresler: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: What is the status of that? That is the road that goes down here from the service station and subject to a lot of flooding in the homes, I think. Mr. Tresler: We are doing in-house work on the drainage and hydraulic analysis on design. We are also working with Grove Farm Museum. There is some back and forth that we are waiting to get their response back. Councilmember Yukimura: This project has been pending for quite a while, I think. Mr. Tresler: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: Are we still waiting for Grove Farm Museum? Mr. Tresler: Yes, we are still waiting for their response. Stanford is our Project Manager on that. Councilmember Yukimura: How long do we wait? I think there is a win-win, right? Mr. Tresler: Yes, most certainly. Councilmember Yukimura: Yes. How long has this project been on the books and what is the timeline for completion? Mr. Tresler: This project has been on the books since FY 2014 or 2015. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay, that is about three (3) to four (4) years ago. What is the timetable for completion then? March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 32 Mr. Tabata: We need to get back to you. My notes says that we are waiting on Grove Farm Museum and their initiation of their project because we need to do this concurrently with them. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Mr. Tabata: I believe that project is tied to the rail. Mr. Tresler: Train track. Councilmember Yukimura: Can we find out their timetable? Committee Chair Kaneshiro: They are a train. Not the rail. Mr. Tabata: I am sorry. The train. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Not the rail. Councilmember Yukimura: It is our "Kaua`i style" rail, which is great. I see a Waimea R-1 distribution improvement of thirty thousand dollars ($30,000). That is to be put together with the one on page 2, which is six hundred thousand dollars ($600,000), it is six hundred thirty-nine thousand dollars ($639,000) or six hundred thirty thousand dollars ($630,000)? Mr. Tresler: Yes, this was the design portion and the other one is the construction funds. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay, but that money presumably if it is still in the budget is going to be used for construction or whatever is needed? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. From our standpoint, that is how much money is budgeted for the project. West Kaua`i Development Plan, I know it is not a"W," but I want to heads-up, but it also depends on who puts together this...I believe we are calling them "community plans" now. It just may need to be a re-description of that. That is my understanding that they are community plans. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Any further questions on page 3? If not, we will move on to page 4. Do we have any questions on the Development Fund? Councilmember Yukimura: Wailua area bus stop...oh wait. Mr. Tresler: That is not us. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: That is Transportation. Councilmember Yukimura: Wailua area moku ahupua a signs. Okay. Mr. Tresler: That is not us. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 33 Councilmember Yukimura: I already asked for an update on the Nui Kuapapa Plan and that is forthcoming. This is related, I believe, related CIP, right? I think both the area moku ahupua'a sign and the Wailua-Waipouli Historic Program. I hope the update will cover these two (2) CIP issues. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: If there are no more questions for the Development Fund, we can move on to the Highway Fund. Any questions for items in the Highway Fund? Councilmember Yukimura. Councilmember Yukimura: Hanapepe Moi Road Pedestrian Safety Improvements, is that something in the present CIP budget, is it not? Mr. Tresler: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: What is the status? Mr. Tresler: The status is that it is being designed in-house. We finally got our survey and that is moving forward. We are final predesign, which was done in January. Construction design now is on the lower section and we are working on the cross sections to final that, it is in final review. The upper sidewalk section is being designed currently, so we had a little lag there and so Devin in our Engineering Division picked it up and is really moving it forward with Troy's help. Councilmember Yukimura: Please thank him. The goal for this coming FY, is this one hundred thirty-five thousand dollars ($135,000) for construction? Mr. Tresler: That is for construction. Councilmember Yukimura: It seems low. Mr. Tresler: It is. That would be highlighted and we may need additional funding, but we will know that as we get closer once the design is completed. Councilmember Yukimura: When is the design scheduled to be done? Mr. Tresler: The design is scheduled to be done by June. Councilmember Yukimura: We better make sure we have construction money in there. Mr. Tresler: Yes. Our thought was we will just wait until we know we got the design and then we can better estimate the cost of that point, which puts us in the next FY, and then we can come back with a money bill. Councilmember Yukimura: Would you not make it something in the budget? Mr. Tresler: We could. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Thank you. Excise tax money can be used for sidewalks. Kapahi Bridge Replacement. Mr. Tresler: That is done. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 34 Councilmember Yukimura: Done? Mr. Tresler: Yes. We completed that project. There is wrap up. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay, that is all. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Okay. If that is it for the Highway Fund, we will move on to Sewer Trust Fund. Mr. Tresler: Nothing there. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Nothing. General Fund. Councilmember Yukimura: The Sewer Trust Fund can only be used for sewers, right? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: Where did that five hundred thousand dollars ($500,000) go? Mr. Tresler: That was a housekeeping measure. Councilmember Yukimura: Housekeeping? Mr. Tresler: Yes, that was... Mr. Tabata: Remember I mentioned that we had to have money in place while we got the SRF loan, we got the SRF, so we (inaudible). Councilmember Yukimura: Okay, but if you had money in place, that means you had the money somewhere. Mr. Tabata: Well, we had unencumbered Sewer Fund last year. We came to Council to do the money bill to place money and so this is just a reversal of what we did. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: It was probably a couple months ago, we moved the money from the Operating Budget to the CIP and once they got the fund, they ended up moving it back. Councilmember Yukimura: That is right. Good strategy. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Any questions on the General Fund? Councilmember Yukimura: Yes. What is this CFD Po`ipu Road Multimodal Improvements? I know the CFD moneys are earmarked for Po`ipu, right? Mr. Tabata: Right. Councilmember Yukimura: So, what is that going to get us? March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works—Operating & CIP Page 35 Mr. Tabata: This is the matching funds for Po`ipu Road project that is presently on the STIP. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Mr. Tresler: That is Po`ipu. Councilmember Yukimura: Yes, so Po`ipu Road is a big project coming up, so you are going to brief us on that when we come to it? Okay. But that is the matching money? Mr. Tresler: Some of it. Councilmember Yukimura: Habitat Conservation Plan. What is the status? Mr. Tresler: The County Attorney would probably be best to answer that. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Yes, we can make a note for the County Attorney. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Yukimura asks that question every year on the update of that status, but we will make sure to note it on the County Attorney's presentation. Mr. Tabata: I believe this is tied to our endangered species. Councilmember Yukimura: Yes, it is. I am not the only one. I think the Chair has asked a lot, too. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Probably. Mr. Tabata: We came off of our, what do you call that, we were placed on some type of probation. Yes, we came off of probation and so now moving forward, I believe we continue to negotiate a settlement. Councilmember Yukimura: We are supposed to have a plan that we can see that has... Mr. Tabata: Yes, and there is differing...because I was part of working with the Attorneys and Fish and Wildlife, there is many differing opinions. I do not know what needs to be included in the plan and how much they will cost. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay, well, a plan is supposed to...this has been on the books for at least five (5) years, maybe longer. Mr. Tabata: We can get an update on this. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay, good, thank you. Host Community Benefits. Looks like a three hundred percent (300%) increase. I think that is because their tonnage is going to be increasing. What is the story behind that? March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 36 Mr. Tabata: We need to get back to you. Councilmember Yukimura: Please do. Mr. Tresler: Yes, with the new calculations... Councilmember Yukimura: Is the per ton rate going up? Mr. Tresler: No, not to my knowledge here. It is two dollars thirty-eight cents ($2.38) per ton. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay, so must be the tonnage is going up. Mr. Tresler: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: Can you come back and give us a report? Kapa'a Neighborhood Center Improvements, that has been on for a while. What is the status of that? Mr. Tresler: The tonnage on Kekaha is like an annual thing, right. The moneys there is based on the 2017 tonnage that we need to now pay into the fund. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Is that just the annual tonnage? Mr. Tresler: Right. It is eighty-six thousand eight hundred sixty-nine dollars ($86,869). Committee Chair Kaneshiro: That equals the two hundred six thousand seven hundred ninety-six dollars ($206,796) to it. Councilmember Yukimura: I see that, okay. Kapa'a Neighborhood Center Improvements. Mr. Tabata: That project, as I mentioned earlier, is a Parks project. Councilmember Yukimura: Oh, it is Parks. It says, "W' though. Is that because of the transfer? Mr. Tabata: It might be remaining funds and that should be zeroed out. Councilmember Yukimura: Is that a question for Parks? Mr. Tabata: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay, we will ask them. Give them a heads-up what we are asking. The comfort station roof Kapahi, Bryan Baptiste... Mr. Tresler: That is an "R," which is Parks. Councilmember Yukimura: Sorry. Okay. Lihu`e Sewage Treatment, what is the eighty-thousand dollars ($80,000)? March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 37 Mr. Tabata: That is the unencumbered balance. That is Sewer Fund...oh, I guess we did use General Fund. Mr. Tresler: I think this is like phase 2. There was a phase 1 that is almost closing out and then phase 2 will follow was to address high priority items for the plant to treat and design flow. That project is ongoing. That is why it is left there. Councilmember Yukimura: I just want to know what phase 2 is. What are we going to get for eighty thousand dollars ($80,000) and is it enough for what they are planning to do? Can you folks just come back to us with that? Mr. Tresler: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: Thank you. Mr. Tabata: This is construction funds, phase 2. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Mr. Tabata: It was awarded in 2016, so this is just the remaining balance. Councilmember Yukimura: Is phase 2 complete? Mr. Tabata: According to my records, yes. Councilmember Yukimura: Can you confirm that? Mr. Tabata: It looks like we have an issue here because the notes do not match up. Can you look at line 149. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Okay. We will wait for you to get back to us. Mr. Tabata: We have to get back to you. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Any other questions on page 4? If not, we will move on to page 5. We are still on General Fund items. Councilmember Yukimura: I have a question on Police Evidence Building. What is the status on the Police Evidence Building? Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Let me know if that is a question for you to answer or a Police question. Mr. Tabata: That is a question for Doug. Mr. Haigh: Doug, with Public Works. I am proud to say we are done and it came out really nice. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works—Operating & CIP Page 38 Councilmember Yukimura: Congratulations. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: So, this money should be moved? Mr. Haigh: Is it about five thousand dollars ($5,000)? Councilmember Yukimura: It is one hundred thousand dollars ($100,000). Mr. Haigh: Unless they are planning something else, we completed the Police Evidence mezzanine structure for them. I do not know if they are funding something else for that building. Councilmember Yukimura: Yes, that was a really good project. A very innovative way to increase their space. We commend them and you folks for it, but it is a question, there is one hundred thousand dollars ($100,000) for expenditure in the next FY, what is that all about? Committee Chair Kaneshiro: That might be a Police question. Mr. Tresler: I will follow-up. Councilmember Yukimura: How does something get into this budget without somebody knowing about it? Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Maybe Police. Councilmember Yukimura: Yes, but they do not just put it in the budget, right? Okay. Mr. Tresler: That is a new... Councilmember Yukimura: Same thing with K-PAL. That was supposed to be forfeiture fund moneys. How come it is now General Fund moneys? Mr. Tresler: That project received a PAD. I think it is a new project. I think it is for additional evidence warehouse space for their vehicles. Councilmember Yukimura: We need some documentation. Mr. Tresler: Right. We have that and I will confirm with KPD on that. Councilmember Yukimura: Can you give us a description of what is being proposed and whether the money is for design or construction and what their timetable is? Mr. Tresler: Evidence Warehouse Metal Building. The purpose of the metal building is for additional evidence warehouse space that would secure vehicles and other large pieces or amounts of evidence. The scope of the work is to design, purchase materials and metal building for the use of additional storage of large evidence items. Currently when they have these vehicles that are in evidence, because it is combined with other evidence, they need to call a certain person to unlock the gates and the doors. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 39 Councilmember Yukimura: Yes, they were before us with this. That sounds familiar. Mr. Tresler: Yes. They want to separate cars from the rest of the evidence, so that if they have a late tow-in, late-night, that they do not have to call that specific evidence purpose because there is a chain of custody issue in that, and besides them needing more space for the vehicles; storage. Councilmember Yukimura: That all makes sense, but I am getting mixed up, because I thought some of these were forfeiture moneys. When they are forfeiture moneys, do they turn into General Fund moneys at some point? I thought the K-PAL building was mainly for forfeiture fund moneys. So we need somebody to solve the mystery for us, okay? Can you figure it out and come back? Mr. Tresler: So your question is whether or not this is from the asset forfeiture funds? Councilmember Yukimura: Or it could have been an appropriation bill? So just let us know. The project sounds familiar, but they come forward and they justify the forfeiture expenditure, too. My memory could come from a forfeiture fund presentation. I do not remember. Whoever put this budget together should know. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: That will probably be a question for Police. I seem to remember Police coming in for additional storage, evidence storage, but I really cannot put my finger on it. I believe that is probably this money and then the two hundred thirty thousand dollars ($230,000) for the K-PAL building is a good question and maybe on Thursday, when Police comes in, or you folks come back, you can say whether it might just be a process where you take the money from the criminal forfeiture fund and you move it into the General Fund whether it is ready to be spent. Mr. Tresler: K-PAL was funded from the General Fund. Councilmember Yukimura: That police evidence? Mr. Tresler: I will confirm that. Councilmember Yukimura: Yes, please confirm that. Mr. Tresler: The training building, K-PAL, that also. I do not believe that was asset forfeiture. Councilmember Yukimura: I am pretty sure it was. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Yes, we can check and come back to it. Councilmember Yukimura: Because I think I approved it because we cannot use forfeiture money for other things and I thought that is a good use. My memory could be faulty. I think the police evidence building is that there were two (2)police evidence buildings projects, and you have one (1) line item for it. So one is completed and the other is in process and there is no distinction showing us that. That is why we are confused. If you find us appropriations ordinance that we passed. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works –Operating & CIP Page 40 Mr. Tresler: Yes. Councilmember Yukimura: Thanks.And the descriptions,you know, there are two (2) the mezzanine is one description. Auto storage is another description. I do remember both. Thank you. And this new pre-development impact fees, what is that? Whose kuleana is that? Do we know who to ask the question to? Mr. Tabata: I am sorry, what line? Mr. Tresler: The Pre-development impact fee. Councilmember Yukimura: Two (2) lines below the police training building. Mr. Tresler: This is the pre-development impact fee. Oh, that is Housing. That is related to their project. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay, that is helpful. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: We will ask that question of the Housing Agency. Councilmember Yukimura: Kapa`a Pool Renovations—that is an old item. It was on last budget, right? Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Waimea? Councilmember Yukimura What did I say, Kapa`a? Mr. Tresler: You said Kapa`a. Councilmember Yukimura: Waimea Pool Renovations. Yes, we all know that that is justified. Mr. Tresler: That is the funding through the bond float. Councilmember Yukimura: No, it is General Fund. Mr. Tresler: Oh, I am sorry. That was part of the recent money bill, right? Committee Chair Kaneshiro: It is for Parks. Councilmember Yukimura: Oh, okay. It is confusing when it has a "W" on it. Mr. Tresler: It says "R" on that one. Councilmember Yukimura: Excuse me, then, it is my fault. Mr. Tresler: Those two (2) are added with the money bill. Councilmember Yukimura: Okay. March 27, 2018 Department of Public Works —Operating & CIP Page 41 Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Any other questions on the General Fund? If not, we will move on. Mr. Tresler: The rest is Parks. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: A lot of these all look like Parks projects, the rest of them. Mr. Tresler: They are all Parks' projects. Councilmember Yukimura: Heads-up to Parks then. Parking lot play court resurfacing at two hundred fifty thousand dollars ($250,000). We just appropriated one million dollars ($1,000,000) for that kind of thing. I would like to have some reconciliation between these funds and the fund we just passed. We should use these funds first because they cannot be used for anything else, whereas the million plus that we removed because we had enough reserve, if I recall correctly. That is much more flexible money. Mr. Tresler: All of these are outside of the Department of Public Works. I think we are completed. Councilmember Yukimura: You are off the hook. Mr. Tresler: Off the hook, early. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Yes. Mr. Tresler: With a lot of follow-up questions. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Yes, there are follow-up questions and I think there are some questions that the folks that will be coming in on Thursday got a heads-up on, so if they can come prepared to answer that. I think you folks will work on that spreadsheet, similar to what we saw last year. Mr. Tresler: Yes, delete that one. I will clean it up. Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Similar to what we saw last year. It might answer a lot of questions on the front-end for us. If there is no other questions, good job, men. We got through this CIP pretty fast. I think a lot of the newer projects we already saw the information on it when we did the bond this year. And a lot of older projects we are familiar with. If there are no other questions from the Members, we are done for today. At this time, I would like to recess the Departmental Budget Reviews. We will reconvene at 9:00 a.m. on Thursday, March 29, 2018 and we will hear from the other departments with their CIP projects. With the exception of the I.T., who will be presenting their CIP projects along with their Operating Budget. So thank you. There being no objections, the Committee recessed at 11:02 a.m.