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FISCAL YEAR 2020-2021 DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET REVIEWS
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The Fiscal Year 2020-2021 Departmental Budget Reviews of the Committee of
the Whole of the Council of the County of Kauai, was called to order by Arryl
Kaneshiro, Chair, at the Council Chambers 4396 Rice Street, Suite 201, Lihu`e,
Kauai, on Friday, March 27, 2020 at 9:00 a.m., after which the following Members
answered the call of the roll:
Honorable Mason K. Chock (via remote technology)
Honorable Felicia Cowden
Honorable Luke A. Evslin (via remote technology)
Honorable Ross Kagawa
Honorable KipuKai Kuali`i
Honorable Arryl Kaneshiro
Excused: Honorable Arthur Brun*
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Good morning, I would like to call to order the
Committee of the Whole and the Fiscal Year 2020-2021 Departmental Budget
Reviews. Let the record reflect that we have a quorum. On the schedule today, I as
the Committee of the Whole Chair will go through some ground rules for the budget
proceedings. They are pretty much the same ground rules we have used in prior
years. Shortly thereafter, we will be playing a video message from the Mayor and his
Administration regarding the current situation we are dealing with as it relates to
the budget and COVID-19. COVID-19 has really dealt us a huge blow in the way that
we do business, hold our meetings, and it will have major implications on our budget
for probably many years to come. I am sure revenue will take a hit and we will need
to stay in communication with the Administration to ensure we are passing a budget
that reflects that reality. As I had mentioned earlier, we are canceling the
Departmental Budget Reviews from March 30, 2020 through April 7, 2020. I have
kept the Budget Call-Back days just in case they are needed. For the public, written
testimony is appreciated in advance of any meeting and can be sent via E-mail,
facsimile, or through the mail. Our meetings will continue to be closed to the public
pursuant to the Governor's March 16, 2020 Supplementary Emergency Proclamation.
For the Councilmembers, here are the ground rules for the budget. This year, you
are asked to review the budget submittal that we received, though we are all aware
that may change. There are some static items in there however, that you may have
questions on. I ask that you please follow the same schedule as if we were having
reviews in terms of submission of questions to Council Services Staff. For example,
questions for the Office of the Mayor, Department of Human Resources, revenue,
et cetera should be submitted by close of business today. By close of business Monday,
questions for the Department of Public Works should be submitted. Staff will compile
these questions and transmit them to the Administration. All of the questions and
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responses will be posted to the Council's Budget website for the public to see.
Call-Backs are still scheduled for April 9-17, 2020 and will be canceled if not
necessary. The Mayor will submit his Supplemental Budget Communication on
May 8, 2020, which will most likely be substantially different due to COVID-19.
Decision-Making is scheduled for May 15-19, 2020. Again, during Budget
Decision-Making any proposals to add to the budget should identify the appropriate
source that will be used to account for the budget increase (i.e., budget cuts or other
revenue sources). Four (4) votes are required to reduce or remove an item. Five (5)
votes are required to increase or add an item. We will proceed with Decision-Making
similar to prior years, going department by department, and we will still follow our
Council Rules. Council Rules will be enforced as far as speaking on each individual
decision. Each Councilmember will have two (2) times to speak for a maximum of
five (5) minutes prior to our decision. I want to thank all the Councilmembers and
the Administration in advance for their cooperation in modifying our budget session
this year given our current crisis. I would now like to play the video submission
provided by the Mayor and his Administration.
(Prerecorded video message from Mayor Derek S.K. Kawakami)
DEREK S.K. KAWAKAMI, Mayor: Aloha Chair Kaneshiro and
Members of the Council. Our world is changing in the blink of an eye, and what we
thought we could rely on yesterday is now either gone or different. Two (2) weeks ago,
when we submitted our budget proposal to you, we had already begun adjusting to
some reality—our virtual delivery of our State of the County address was just the
beginning. But never could we have imagined that today we would be delivering yet
another video address to inform all of you that our proposed March budget—that our
team has worked hard on for months—is no longer realistic. These are dynamic
times. The COVID-19 pandemic has placed a number of new operational and
financial considerations that did not exist two (2) to three (3) weeks ago, and they
continue to change daily. During the process of developing this budget submittal over
the past few months, the revenue picture was very clear. However, the budget
outlook at this present time does not look promising. Already, we have General
Excise Tax (GET) revenues plummeting, and I will be sending a money bill shortly to
revise this current year's budget to reduce spending. We also have no visitors. And
while the traditional debate has been about the counties getting their fair share of
the Transient Accommodations Tax (TAT) from the State, right now there are no
transients, and there is no TAT revenue coming in. So where we would expect
fourteen million dollars ($14,000,000) in revenue—at this rate, it may be zero ($0).
We can also expect real estate valuations to plummet in coming years, with the
revenue picture looking quite worrisome; some projections from our Assessment
Division show real estate tax revenues possibly plummeting twenty percent (20%) in
Fiscal Year 2021-2022. To put that in dollars and cents, that could be around thirty
million dollars ($30,000,000) million in reduced revenue.
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However, we do have a small window to plan and prepare. Hard choices now
and reinforcing our reserve will help cushion the inevitable blow. We need to
reconsider whether our fund balance is better spent as banking for reserve. We need
to rethink about the things we absolutely need, like do we need new vehicles. We
need to reconsider whether while valuations are high, do we ask people who are able
to pay, to pay more to bolster our financial position for what is ahead. We know
winter is coming. We thank you for your understanding and flexibility as we all adapt
to changing times. We know and freely admit many of our proposals did not consider
the wild volatility of the revenue picture we face today. I believe our action asking for
receipt by the Council of the eight (8) revenue bills this past Wednesday as evidence
of our Administration's position that we cannot move forward in a bubble and think
the world will adjust to us. We need to adjust to the world. We will use the period
between now and the May budget submittal to incorporate feedback from the Council
during hearings, to hopefully reconcile a budget plan that reflects a financial picture
given this ongoing national emergency. We thank the Council for your support and
work the past few weeks in response to COVID-19. We are very lucky to have a
cooperative legislative body that is working with us to protect the people of Kauai.
Being the first legislative body in the state to appropriate emergency funds in
response to this crisis speaks volumes about your integrity and grit as lawmakers. I
look forward to the continued discussions and discourse as we position our
government to weather what we can anticipate will be a severe winter ahead.
Our community has always thrived in the face of adversity. Over the past few
weeks, that Kauai tenacity that is in our"DNA" is once again coming to the forefront.
I have been humbled and touched by the various acts of kindness, courage, and
goodwill we have made for one another. We have a strong sense of community, and
we will be here for each other. This crisis will be a long haul—a marathon of sorts.
But it is a race we can run hard, and we can run strong. If we have to carry others
along the way, we will because that is our style and that is the Kauai way. And we
will get through this—we know no braver community than ours and we will face the
future together. Thank you, Members. God bless, and aloha.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: With that, I would like to open the floor for
any final commentary before we adjourn and get to work individually reviewing the
budget submission. Councilmembers, any final words before we venture down the
road of our budget? No one? Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: I will say something. I have really paid a lot
of attention to the budget so far. I appreciate the work that has gone into it. We
definitely need to be looking carefully at all the many changes that will happen. It is
really critical that we make good choices. I am committed to doing that. I thank
everyone for the work that they have done so far.
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Council Chair Kaneshiro: Anyone else? Councilmember Chock.
Councilmember Chock: Thank you. In light of the Mayor's
presentation today, and the fact that so much is unforeseen with the budget...I
understand that we are headed towards still coming back to look at budget review
week. I am wondering what are we able to anticipate or forecast in terms of receiving
a revised, broad look at the budget so that we can really start to plan and strategize?
Council Chair Kaneshiro: May 8th is when their actual submittal is due.
May 15th would be our Decision-Making so we would have about a week to do it. We
have been in communication with the Mayor's Office and we made it clear that we
would like to know what is going on in the Supplemental Budget Communication
prior to the May 8th submission. We will be in touch with the Mayor and the
Administration. They said that they are open to us communicating with them and
them communicating with us. That was the deal when we canceled all of the
Departmental Budget Reviews. It was done to give them time to deal with the issues
they need to. They said they are more than willing to be open to communicate with
us as they are working on the Supplemental Budget. The Call-Back dates are a good
time to see where they are at with their Supplemental Budget Communication to see
what kind of big changes we are going to see.
Councilmember Chock: Okay.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Kagawa.
Councilmember Kagawa: I would like to see a little more work put into
the Supplemental submittal on May 8th. I would like to see,
department-by-department, giving us reasoning for any significant adds or cuts to
their individual budgets. They are obviously saving a lot of work by not going through
the budget meetings, but I expect them to at least...if we are giving them a break as
far as doing video or in-person Departmental Budget Reviews, they have to do a little
more legwork since we are crunched for time, come May 8th. It is like in accounting,
a material difference, anything five percent (5%) more than the prior year...I would
like to see...even if it is reduced more than five percent (5%) from the prior year, some
reasons why. It does not have to be long. I would like to see something like that come
in. Make it easy for us, the Council. We do not have to go and ask a lot of these
questions that can be answered easily had they done the work prior. That is what I
would like to see from the Department of Finance, who oversees the budget. We have
a Budget Analyst and a Director of Finance. Have your departments or you do it
yourself, help this Council to come to an easier conclusion. Otherwise, we are really
going to be crunching that week—it may be longer than expected, because you have
not listened to what I just said. I hope that they can at least do that for us. Hopefully
we can have a smoother budget process after May 8th. Thank you.
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Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: I would just add that I see it in a sense of our
job that we would normally be doing, asking the questions and looking for
improvements to the budget, looking for cuts if you will, from this day forward is even
more important. Obviously, we cannot wait until May 8th when the resubmittal
comes. We should be helping the Administration find the cuts that they need to find.
Dig into the budget as it is written, it is still useful, as that is where they are starting
to make cuts. The Mayor has already shared with us the potential loss of revenue of
thirty million dollars ($30,000,000). We have had a difficult time finding much less
in cuts. Now it is for real. We have to really help them find the cuts.
(Councilmember Kagawa was noted as not present.)
The Mayor mentioned looking at the Reserve Fund and making that decision.
Also, he mentioned possibly not purchasing any new vehicles and things like that. As
we look through this budget, we will see how that can add up to a significant amount.
I think now is even more important that we try and find the cuts. When we submit
our questions or suggestions on cuts to the Administration, that might be something
they already found, but who knows, we might find some things that actually help
them. One thing I would add for me, as usual during the budget, I think I read that
sixty percent (60%) of our budget has to do with salaries and benefits. The positions
are always most important to me. That is why I am going to dig through the vacant
position report and it is important that the Administration looks towards where they
have vacant positions not anticipated to be filled by July 1st, and reduce the budget
accordingly based on when they will actually be able to fill them. Maybe now they
will not plan to fill those positions, because of the situation we are in. That will be
savings too. I think it is really important that we continue to do our work as we would
anyway and help the Administration find the cuts that we need to find.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Evslin.
Councilmember Evslin: Thank you. In addition to what has been said
already, I want to piggyback on what Councilmember Kagawa was saying in asking
for justification for any five percent (5%) increase anywhere, to note some clear
justification as to why that is needed. I would hope that we could go a step further
and show justification basically for all operations and vehicle expenses that we are
purchasing. Even if the budget is flat from last year, I think every expense has to be
justified as much as possible. I am going to...it is a little hard for me to follow-up
with too many questions when our presentations and the budget that we have is no
longer relevant. I think for the most part, I am going to be holding off on my questions
until I see the presentation. We will probably be in a mad scramble for a few days.
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Lastly, I just want to say that I appreciate the work of our staff here and the heroic
effort it takes to put this thing out and then to try and re-do it...this includes everyone
in the Administration. I do not know if there has ever been a process like this where
the whole thing gets thrown out the window last minute and re-done. I appreciate
the work that goes into that. Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: I realize that a lot of the baseline of the cost of
operations in County government is pretty much going to stay pretty static. When
there are variances where we are looking at what is dropping, I would like to see in
each area when we put a variance with hopefully a drop, we state exactly why we see
that it is fitting in there. Also, in our Capital Improvement Projects (CIP) budget, if
there are things that can be deferred...it is not really in there yet, but when we are
supposed to be putting this twenty-five million dollars ($25,000,000) into adding
those dikes for Waimea and Hanapepe, when there are big projects like that that
could maybe be pushed out or changed, I would like to look at those big capital
improvement costs increases we have. We have a lot going on. It is a little bit
separate, but it still matters, the Department of Water has very expensive
improvements on their horizon. There are a lot of expensive development elements
that we have in front of us. I want to take a good solid look at where we are putting
moneys into those areas as well.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: I wanted to...the most important thing I
forgot...was to say thank you. Mahalo nui loa to the Mayor and everyone in the
Administration for your leadership and also for the hard work that you will be doing
on this budget coming up. I would like to especially thank our two (2) leaders here,
Jade and Scott, for getting us through this and helping us with these meetings.
Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Anyone else? The budget that was
submitted...it is going to be the baseline for the Supplemental. Any questions we
submit, it may get cleared up with the Supplemental. Again, we will be looking at
this budget for right now. We are obviously going to be asking questions about
variances that went up. Hopefully in the Supplemental, they will see that question
and they will realize we actually do not need those costs. Hopefully that question will
end up being moot, because they will end up cutting it. I am sure we are going to see
broader policies in the next budget that the Mayor will probably come up with. I do
not know what they are going to do with travel. I do not know if they are going to cut
or reduce travel in the next fiscal year. I am pretty sure that our travel budget is
reduced right now, because there is absolutely no traveling right now. I am not sure
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if that policy is going to flow into next year. We do not know what next year is going
to bring. Again, those are the types of costs that I could see a broader policy on. The
Mayor mentioned no new vehicles, reduction in travel, and maybe they will try to put
in a reduction in overtime. I think we will see broader measures like that to really
tighten our belt buckles on the budget. Any further comments or discussion from the
Councilmembers? Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: I just thought of one other quick thing. As we
are dealing with the loss of revenue, I know the Administration will also be looking
at potentially what other kinds of moneys might be available from the Federal
Government...some special moneys or newly approved moneys. Perhaps, hopefully,
and Councilmember Cowden and I are writing letters asking for them to look into
providing more Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) moneys that could at
least come into our community. Hopefully, the County can also find some other
revenues as well to replace those lost. Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: I just want to make a comment on why these
community-based development grants are so important. Hopefully we will get more
of them. Those Federal moneys go directly into our community and we have a lot of
local control over that. I am hoping that we will be able to help build capacity for our
citizens through the CDBG grants.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: I am sure as the Administration works on
their Supplemental Budget, they will update us on any changes. They may not know
right now what kind of changes they will be making to the budget. We will be in
touch with them as far as any major changes that will be made to the budget.
Obviously, we are going to be losing a lot revenue, General Excise Tax (GET),
probably the fuel tax. A lot of those are going to affect the types of projects we can
fund. There is going to be a lot of reprioritization and a lot of cost-cutting with the
new submittal. Again, we will stay in touch with them on that. Any final comments
from anyone? If not, I want to thank everyone again for your flexibility in this
modified Departmental Budget Reviews. I do not think this has ever happened
before. Thank you to everyone for being flexible and bearing with us on it. At this
time, not seeing or hearing any objections, I would like to adjourn the Committee of
the Whole's Departmental Budget Reviews for Fiscal Year 2020-2021.
There being no objections, the Committee adjourned the Fiscal Year 2020-2021
Departmental Budget Reviews at 9:24 a.m.
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Respectfully submitted,
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Scott K. Sa o
Deputy County Clerk
APPROVED at the Committee Meeting held on April 8, 2020:
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ARR L KAXESHIRO
Chair, Committee of the Whole