HomeMy WebLinkAbout04/05/2021 Kauai Fire Department, Kauai Emergency Management Agency, Kauai Police Department, and Office of the Prosecuting Attorney Kaua`i Fire Department
Honorable Bernard P. Carvalho, Jr.
Honorable Mason K. Chock
Honorable Felicia Cowden
Honorable Luke A. Evslin (via remote technology)
Honorable Bill DeCosta
Honorable KipuKai Kuali`i
Honorable Arryl Kaneshiro
The Committee reconvened on April 5, 2021 at 9:01 a.m., and proceeded as follows:
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Good morning, I would like to call to order the
Committee of the Whole and the Fiscal Year 2021-2022 Departmental Budget Reviews. Let
the record reflect that we have a quorum. On the schedule today, April 5, 2021, we will be
hearing from the Fire Department, Kaua`i Emergency Management Agency, the Police
Department, and the Office of the Prosecuting Attorney. As we do each morning, we will
take public testimony. Clerk, do we have anyone registered to speak today?
There being no objections, the rules were suspended to take public testimony.
There being no one present to provide testimony, the meeting was called back to order,
and proceeded as follows:
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: We have no registered speakers and we received
no written testimony for today. For today's review, we will be taking the Fire Department in
the order of Administration, Operations, Prevention, Training, and then Ocean Safety. We
will allow them to do their presentation and then if we have specific questions to those
divisions, then we will ask those questions in those particular divisions. We can ask
questions on the presentation and get the questions out of the way; that is fine also. If it is
addressed in the presentation, that is good too. With that, Chief Goble.
STEVEN R. GOBLE, Fire Chief(via remote technology): Good morning.
Thank you for this opportunity to be before you today to talk about our proposals for the
upcoming budget year. I would like to bring up a couple slides in a presentation. I want to
have something available as reference as I talk through our initial presentation. Hopefully
we will get this up in a way that you can see.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: We can see it. After this presentation, can you
E-mail it to us, so that we can have it on record?
Chief Goble: I certainly will. As we roll into this budget
planning period, the Mayor, Administration, and the budget team presented the ongoing
challenges here at the County, to make sure we understood the economic conditions of the
day. The overall message from the Mayor was shared sacrifice and an attempt to keep
everyone a part of the overall solution. We feel like we have done that with our budget
request. We have done some things to push things out to future years. We have done some
things to help locate alternative funding streams. Overall,we have invested in ourselves with
our teams and crews putting in some hard labor to get important things completed within
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our Department. Hopefully that comes across in the presentation for you today. I want to
acknowledge the Mayor and the Administration for their support of us and our mission
overall. We do enjoy tremendous community support, support from the Mayor and the
Administration. We are well-supported by the County Council and from the Fire Commission
as well, so we are very appreciative to be in that position where we can provide our services
in an environment like that. The mission is important. What we do is important. But we also
recognize that what the other things that happen across the County are important as well
and again, we want to be a part of that solution. As we rolled into this budget year, we were
asked to make a small reduction in our Operating Budget, which we did. On the flipside of
that, we have our personnel costs. This personnel cost did go up largely due to contractual
obligations through collective bargaining agreements. However, that is pretty typical across
the country and across the board. Public safety organizations like ours that the bulk of your
funding goes to your most important resource and so I do want to indicate that as well. The
men and women of the Kaua`i Fire Department (KFD) are what makes it all work, what
provides that level of protection, and provides that overall of safe community here on Kaua`i.
It makes sense that is the focus of our budget going forward. The graphs represent that in
general. Year-over-year comparison, a slight uptick in overall costs. We did have reduction
in the operating costs, however. Just some highlights, this is the way we intend to use the
funding and this is a demonstration of how we used it over the past Fiscal Year (FY). We
want to focus on those strategic budget priorities. We know that we are here to provide that
level of emergency response and a large portion of the funding that is allocated goes to that
cause. Some highlights from that are really around COVID-19 response, both the incident
and operational challenges that came with that. Our folks were on the frontline of response
as they tried to manage new protocols and policies, PPE requirements, and all those types of
things that related to COVID-19.They did it. They stepped up to the challenge and performed
very admirably in that arena. We were a big part of that overall Incident Management Team
support for the ongoing pandemic. Our team has been committed to the Emergency
Management Operations and have taken on important roles within that group. Taking folks
away from their normal duties to perform those kinds of things and the rest of the team
behind them has picked up the ball and made sure we were not skipping a beat behind them.
We all went through the process of those initial budget impacts that came as a result of the
pandemic last March. Making those big adjustments, the team has fallen in line and adjusted
to that in an admirable way. Our teams are out there in various roles, doing work that they
never thought they would have to do, supporting the overall response to COVID-19, including
our folks over at the airport, folks out there in the frontline, changing the way we do business
on a day-to-day basis. I am really proud of our team and the efforts that they made across
the board. For operational readiness, we made some big changes in the way we deliver our
training by reducing our overtime cost directed towards delivery of that training. We looked
to continue that into this coming year as well. This has allowed us...that reduction in
overtime costs has allowed us to fill some other shortfalls across the budget and address some
very important needs. One of the things I will call out there is that we had a very unexpected
expense due to identification of asbestos in three (3) of our fire stations. Because we had
taken this fiscally responsible approach, we were able to pull money in from other areas in
the budget and address that very important need.
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We continue to work with our community risk reduction. It has been a weird world
and a very strange environment for us to operate in. Historically, we have done a lot of that
outreach effort in-person, in front of people, but the pandemic has caused us to change our
tactic a little bit and leverage technology and use our social media platforms, creating videos,
and creating those types of opportunities for people of all ages across the island. We have
done some targeted outreach to young people using"Sparky the Fire Dog" on a skateboard or
we made a virtual station tour that we were able to pass along to folks who are interested in
fire-related topics. We have also done some community informational videos that are out
there in our social media as well, targeting things like electronic hazard safety. We
experienced a rash of those types of fires during the summer and the team has put together
a nice video to inform folks about the hazards of electrical fires, et cetera. Really, those are
innovative and great work by that team to continue to have a presence out in the community.
Administratively, while we did not call this out as one of our primary functions, we
know that this type of support is what makes the other priorities work. This is what allows
us to be effective in our response, to be operationally ready and work on those community
issues. We were able to have our strategic plan process funded last year. We have worked
through that process and came up with a great foundation for us as a department to help us
to chart the course forward for overall management of the Fire Department. A big part of
that was identifying what our needs were, engaging our team, personnel from across the
department. Another piece of our foundation-building is our utilization study. That is an
ongoing process right now. We are wrapping up our data-collection piece of that, but
ultimately this is reaching out to a consultant that has a broad array of experience with fire
departments, deployment, staffing, resources, program needs, and so we look forward to
working through that. We will have that completed hopefully by the end of June. That is our
goal. That will be a foundational tool that we can use for future planning for the department.
One of the big things that the pandemic has brought to us is the need to look for other ways
to fund our needs and make sure that we are able to accomplish our mission. We have great
partnerships across the island: Kaua`i Lifeguard Association (KLA), our Friends of Kaua`i
Fire Department, and other community groups, working with the Red Cross and teams like
that assisting us with achieving our mission, our goal. We have been scouring our resources
for grant opportunities out there as well. We have a replacement truck that we were just
notified—completed and will be delivered to us some time later this month. That was a
product of a grant request, which is two hundred fifty thousand dollars ($250,000) worth of
funding that we are able to secure in an alternate way. We have continued that effort going
forward. We have a couple of pretty significant grant applications in and things that we have
talked to you about, to-date, the Assistance to Fire Fighters Grant(AFFG). We got one million
dollars ($1,000,000) worth of equipment needs that we are applying for, with our
communication needs and an additional piece of apparatus. Then we have the Staffing for
Adequate Fire and Emergency Response (SAFER) grant, which is the funding for personnel
costs and we are hopeful that we get awarded...overall there is a four million two hundred
thousand dollar($4,200,000) funding request over three (3)years. We continue to do our part
and we are working hard to identify these other sources.
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The other bullet point is about sweat equity. An appreciation for the work that our
folks are doing out there at the fire stations and on the beaches across the County. They are
not afraid to drive a nail or grab a paint brush or do those types of things to help us address
our ongoing maintenance and facility needs. We appreciate what they are doing out there. I
would be remiss if I did not call out our partnerships with other departments as well. We
enjoyed tremendous support from within the County, folks are willing to chip in and help us
to get work done. A last-minute call to install a water heater, things like that—we are always
on the receiving end as far as support from our teams so we greatly appreciate all of that and
the work that gets done. Those are things from FY 2021 that we will continue to carry to FY
2022 as well. It is kind of a strategic approach, those things do not go away, but they stay on
the radar for us as we go forward.
As we walk through the different divisions, I just wanted to call out the challenges,
key actions that we are hoping to address through the budget, and then the last column was
just about the funding changes year over year to give us some context as to what we need to
accomplish.Administratively, this is really about creatingthat and makingsure we have the
right pieces in place to pull that off. Currently, we have one of our positions on the
Administration side that is half-funded. It is an Accountant I position currently. That
position right now is something that we have taken advantage of the 89-day contract to get
us the service that we need there. We have sort of a two-fold benefit in that position in that
we were able to bring someone in with a wealth of experience and is able to provide that level
of the support we need. That person that is on the 89-day contract for us has a tremendous
amount of institutional acknowledge as well. As I have been transitioning into my role, she
has been very helpful in helping me to understand context and history and all of those types
of things. For us today the 89-day contract is working, but we recognize we need to solve that
support problem long-term, so we were able to secure half funding for that and we will look
to utilize that later in the year. This piece about the reallocation to EMS support. We had
some money committed to consulting and other fees in our administrative division and we
recognize that we need to address our EMS support needs. EMS is our Emergency Medical
Services. Seventy percent (70%) of our responses are emergency medical related and so we
recognize that we need to provide some resources and funding to support that very important,
high liability program for us within KFD. We moved that money there to try to help us meet
that need. For Fire Operations—our ongoing personnel costs, we talked about those in the
past in our conversations about the overtime cost and the continued incremental increases
in contractual agreement, but we know that our part for this is to manage our discretionary
personnel costs and so we are making every effort to manage that. We look to that pot of
money to help us fill those other voids across the board. Health and safety is always a priority
for us. We want to make sure that our people are well-taken care of. This is a CIP issue, so
this is not General Fund, but I just wanted to call out that we are trying to be strategic about
identifying challenges and addressing them with action.
We talked about incident communications. The grant that we have in place, we did
commit some budget money of about one hundred ten thousand dollars ($110,000) to our
overall incident communication needs.We hope to be awarded the Assistance to Fire Fighters
grant that will solve our communications problem long-term and our hope would be to be able
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to use that money as the matching funds to support the overall one million dollar($1,000,000)
request from the Department of Homeland Security. We continue to work through our
equipment and maintenance needs to make sure that we are staying on top of critical items
to keep our operations sound and moving forward. We talked about community risk
reduction. The big news there is that we have taken a good look at that plans review process
for fire plans and we recognize some shortfalls and some shortcomings in our process. We are
looking to tighten those up, working good with the folks on the Building Division to help us
better move through that process. We think that is going to enhance our revenue generation
on that side of things. Overall the goal of that revenue enhancement is to support our
community risk reduction through those fees. We will use those funds to continue to invest
in our technology and our processes on the preventive side of things.
Training—this is just an ongoing effort to reduce our overall overtime costs that are
committed to our training program. This is an area where we have that ability to manage
those discretionary costs. The team really did a good job this year. At the end of the year, we
will have reduced that overall cost by about fifty percent (50%). Again, those funds are
important to us and we have been able to reallocate those moneys to other important needs
across the department. The team has put together a strategic training plan. A lot of our
training in the past had been "the flavor of the month" kind of training. Important training,
for sure, really bringing important concepts and skills to the table, but we have taken a step
back and really worked on being strategic and using a building block approach to how we
delivered our training. That has helped us to manage our approach and our costs. Again, a
proactive way of looking at it as opposed to a reactive way of jumping on the latest, greatest
technology that comes our way. We feel like that will help us as we go forward as well.
This last line item is the biggest one, our Ocean Safety Division. As we talked about
that, we got the immediate problem and then ultimately a long-term problem with that
lifeguard staffing provided through contract with the state. The state last year dropped that
funding and kind of left the County to manage that problem without any assistance from
them. We adapted to that. Again, great partnerships with the Mayor and his team in
identifying an alternative funding stream through grant opportunities to help us get through
FY 2021. We think we have some funding options in place to help us through FY 2022 as
well using a similar path, however it does not solve the problem long-term. We want to
continue to work at that rather than just putting a "Band-Aid" on it. We need to figure out
what that long-term solution is going to be. There has been some conversation already in
place about exchange in service arrangement with the state or other means to try and
accomplish this.We feel like that resource out there at Ke`e is just too important to the overall
safety of our community. They have responsibility for the beach at the end of the road, but
that is not the extent of the service that they provide out there. They are also the gateway to
the Kalalau Trail and the Na Pali Coast and just a number of incidents, permitted actions
and rescues occur at that site just because of the nature of that location. We have continued
to receive support for that, because everyone understands it. Everybody gets how important
that resource is to have in place out there for the safety of our community and so again, we
feel like we got some solid things in place to help us get through this year and not have to
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reduce the staffing out there, but we intend to work on a longer term solution to figure that
out with the help of the Mayor and the Administration.
Again, acknowledging the community partnerships out there with KLA. They have
been an incredible resource. They are able to work within the community and donate, get
funding that they can turn around and donate equipment and supplies. We will continue to
engage in that very important relationship to help us manage the difficulty of the economic
picture for us. These are the big challenges. Again, as we look at the funding changes, we
see increases in payroll, we see generalized decreases in operating costs, with the exception
of that training piece. The increase in operating, again, is attributable to that additional
support for our EMS program. We felt that was important to capture that cost and make sure
we were behind that service and showing our appropriate level of support for the need that
was out there. I have taken too much time already, but I do want to say thank you to the
Council and everyone involved in this. We are dedicated to our mission. We are working in
a strategic way to address our needs as we go along and hope to continue to have your support
to get the important work done. Thank you. I am available for any questions you might
have.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Thank you. With that, do we have any questions
on the presentation or on the synopsis that was provided by Fire? Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Page 2 of the written narrative that we received.
It talks about, "KFD Fire Operations Calls for Service."
Chief Goble: Yes.
Councilmember Kuali`i: The third item, "Medical/Rescue," in 2019, five
thousand twenty-six dollars ($5,026); in 2020, four thousand sixty-two dollars ($4,062). Does
that include water rescues?
Chief Goble: It does not. That is the fire operation side of the
house. Those are the calls that come out of the fire stations.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Okay. The bottom "Other," can you give some
examples. It shows only one (1) in 2019 and nine (9) in 2020.
Chief Goble: Typically what those are...in reviewing the
statistics, these are things that do not end up being classified in our reporting system. It also
captures some kind of minor categories that are called out through the "National Fire
Information Recording Systems."There is a nationwide standard, the short name is"NFIRS."
There are thirty odd different categories for calls for service and this other category lumps
together things like steam mistaken for smoke or calls that are unfounded in those types of
ways that are reported to us with important information, but ultimately do not require an
emergency response. Those are the types of things that fit in that category.
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Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: I want to thank you for all the work you put into
this very good paper. On the same chart that Councilmember Kuali`i was just talking about,
I have noticed there are a lot more fires. Do you have a rationale for why that is?
Chief Goble: I wish that I did. I know that we have seen that,
we recognized that statistic...a lot of these are brush and wildland-type fires. Although we
saw an increase in the residential and structural-type fires as well, the biggest increase was
on the wildland side and brush ire side of things. I tend to think that some of that is interfaced
with people. People have been pushed into areas where people are not necessarily intended
to be and the interface with people and dry grass and those types of things often leads to
these increases of fires.
Councilmember Cowden: Thank you for that excellent answer,because I did
want to know if it was more brushfires or more house fires and then if those brushfires, I
think we just have a lot of overgrowth of brush, because there is less agricultural uses. When
you say the interface and much of that people are pushed into the bushes without housing or
is it people choosing to go?
Chief Goble: I think it is a combination of the two things. There
is a segment of our houseless population that has found themselves in that environment, but
we also know that with the pandemic, folks are looking at alternate ways to appropriately
social distance and those types of things and often that lead people into these types of
environments as well.
Councilmember Cowden: I do want to say I am so impressed at how well the
Fire Department puts out fires. I know it should be your job, but it is not your job as much.
It is like 30% or less of the job, so when I watch a tight neighborhood get taken care of and
the propane tank blows up and everything else, it looks like you do it all the time. I have a
couple Ke`e questions and just the overall when I am looking at ocean safety, I think this is
super meaningful for us when we are see the impacts of the visitor industry, when we had
this "soft" year of visitor arrivals, we are really able to see how much dedication goes to that
important community that we protect. I want to really thank KLA, because funding mostly
come from the resorts, so good job to KLA. With the Ke`e position, I have fought hard to keep
that position funding as a citizen for a long time. We need to bring the Department of Land
and Natural Resources (DLNR) into this discussion, because I know there is a consideration
and I know because I am in those conversations, for trail staff to be able to broker who should
be going up or not. I think we also need to talk to them a bit about the parking situation out
there, because even if we reopen, I want to fund Ke`e, but it might be that if we do not make
changes with the parking, we will not have visitors out there. I have never been out there
when the parking lot is full. It is rare that I see even a half-full parking lot in full time when
the tourists are allowed to be here. When I talk to visitors and they are going out there, I tell
them to get a parking permit, because you might not be able to...and they say, "No problem,
it is only $5, I got one for the entire time I am visiting." They will get the entire week or the
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entire fourteen(14) days, so I think there is some places for people to go, that is why we have
a low turnout at that beach. When we are prioritizing where we are going to be spending, I
think we should be in conversation with that. I have something about the twelve (12)
openings, but I will wait until we get to that part of the conversation.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Yes, we will do the vacancies when we get to
operation.
Councilmember Cowden: 89-day Accountant—when you get that half-time,
that is going to be the same individual, right?You are not having a fresh hire, but keeping
the same person who has been helping?
Chief Goble: It will likely be a fresh person. Our 89-day hire is
looking very much forward to being with her grandkids more frequently. We are going to be
challenged to find someone with that skillset to come into the organization.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay, and that was your hero in helping you...she
was the one that you were saying such good things about, okay...I just wanted to know if we
were keeping her.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: When you were merging in Puhi, that was me who
gave you the "shaka." Chief, you mentioned the important concept and you said sometimes
it is the flavor of the month...I was able to experience this firsthand with your fire fighters
out there at the Waimea/Hanapepe Station and I noticed that some of your younger fire
fighters were very akamai about hand tools, changing out a sparkplug, looking how to run a
rope in that hand pump that went into the ditch to pump water into the truck. When the
rope came out and the nuts and bolts came loose on the sparkplug, there were a couple of
them who did not know anything about how to use a wrench. The point I am trying to make
is in equipment maintenance—it is good to run through all those small, little pumps, even if
it is not being used. The common sense when doing the application process in hiring, I know
you know this, but just to reiterate it, it is more than just book smart and college degree,
when you cannot even change a sparkplug on a pump. I wanted to just put that out there.
Thank you.
Chief Goble: Thank you. We have recognized that in a general
trend in the fire service. We are getting candidates that are well-prepared academically, but
the mechanical side of things has become a lost art, so we are including some of types of
things in our recruitment process as well.
Councilmember Evslin: Thank you for the presentation. Good job in some
of your successes over the last year and in going forward, especially just looking at the
synopsis. You folks have made a big shift to on-shift training, which seems to impact
significant amounts of overtime pay. I heard anecdotally about a lot of good Microsoft Teams
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training that you folks are doing, so good job on those fronts. I really appreciate seeing when
every department is asked to make cuts, it is good to see a list here of the items that you folks
are deferring upgrading, so we can see sort of concretely where these cuts are coming from. I
appreciate that. Can you talk a little bit about the Personal Protective Equipment (PPE)
lockers and what you were saying about valuating sweat equity and what those lockers would
have hopefully been used for?
Chief Goble: Each of the fire stations has a place to...this is
storing their turnout gear, so across the industry, there has been a huge recognition of the
health and safety concerns around exposure of your turnout gear, so your coat and pants that
you wear out on the fire scenes. What we have learned over time is that those things off-gas
and they retain the chemicals in those types of things that are detrimental of the health of
fire fighters. The PPE lockers was a measure that was taken some time back in order to have
a place to store the gear without bringing it into the station until it can be cleaned and taken
care of in that sort of way. It is protected within the apparatus bay area with solid doors and
those sorts of things, because again, one of the recognitions of the health concern is the diesel
smoke that comes from the apparatus and the bays. The PPE cabinet gives us a place to store
the gear and then also helps to protect the gear from off-gassing out and then also from the
detrimental effects coming in. It was built out of wood. Wood is a good choice for a little while
here, but over time the termites find it, the environment finds it and the doors start to fall
off and they come into disrepair. The sweat equity piece of that is again an investment that
we looked to ask from our folks out in the fire stations to Councilmember DeCosta's point, we
have some pretty skilled folks out there with a hammer and screw gun and so we are hoping
that if we can provide materials or the basics that we can invest that sweat equity from our
teams to put those things together at the stations.
Councilmember Evslin: Good to hear. Can you provide us more data on
Ke`e. You have a good rundown here with calls that you are having for ocean safety and KFD.
One it is pretty staggering to see the decline in those numbers. But if we could see, it would
be interesting, for Ke`e alone just to better judge the impact of the possibility when they are
not having guards at those beaches. If we can see a breakdown pre-COVID-19 and during
COVID-19 of rescue calls at Ke`e would be good.
Chief Goble: If you do not mind indulging me, I have a slide
buried in my presentation here. If you indulge me, I will bring that up just to give you a
quick point of reference.
Councilmember Evslin: Great, thank you.
Chief Goble: This one may take just a little longer to come up,
because it is in a PowerPoint. Are you able to see that at all?
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: No, not yet.
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Chief Goble: I guess I can go through it while we are having a
conversation, but overall we captured statistics from FY 2019, because that is the last full
year we had available to us. Again, it is indicative of mostly pre-COVID-19 time, but overall
we expect the same kind of trend there for this fiscal year that there were to be a reduction,
but as we return to normal, I think this is what we can expect. Overall ninety-five thousand
two hundred forty-eight (95,248) visitors to Ke`e. That team out there is tremendously
proactive in their approach. Because they sit at that trail head, almost everybody that comes
to that beach is engaged by a lifeguard almost immediately. Whether they are headed out on
the trail, whether they are headed down to the beach or up the coastline a little bit further,
far and away our highest number of preventive actions happens at Ke`e with over twenty-one
thousand (21,000) preventive actions. This can be anything from: "Where is a safe place to
swim; here is our skill-level, where should I swim," all those types of things that our
lifeguards can help to inform people about are classified in that way. Along the North Shore,
Ke`e by far provides the highest amount of medical first-aids as well for a total of three
hundred thirty-three (333), of those two hundred seventeen(217) happened at Ke`e and were
provide by the Ke`e staff. Small number of assists because of the high level of preventive
action that happens out there, the number for actual assistance is fairly low with three (3)
public assists, and then five (5) rescues in that period, so these are actual people in the water
that required intervention in order to be brought to safety. Pretty impressive stuff from that
group and an indication of the work they do out there
Councilmember Evslin: Yes, certainly an indication of their vital
importance. Are you confident that there will be some alternative funding source for this
coming fiscal year for those four (4) positions?
Chief Goble: I will defer that final answer to the
administration, but we have had some positive conversations about that and I feel like we
are in a very good place for getting that funded for an additional year.
MICHAEL A. DAHILIG, Managing Director (via remote technology): In response to
your question to Chief Goble, we have options, but they are unconventional options that at
this point, I will use the phrase "strategy" standpoint. We will probably not want to divest
some of that information at this point. We have things in our pocket that we can try to do as
a stopgap funding measure. The Mayor's priority is to make sure that ocean safety is
prioritized to safe levels, so we will be able to talk about that as we see what the State's
budget looks like going into FY 2022.
Councilmember Evslin: It seems like a beach as popular as that, especially
a beach that visitors pay to get into and with the dangerous ocean conditions there can be, it
seems insane for the State not to be funding those positions. I appreciate your efforts looking
into that. There is an increase in salaries for ocean safety, even with these positions being
dollar-funded and is that just because of the raises that went into effect this year or are there
other reasons for that increase?
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Chief Goble: Those increases in the personnel costs are largely
due to the increase...a slightly larger than expected increase that came with our last contract.
That was signed last July and it was retroactive to the year before, but that is a reflection of
those ongoing costs.
Councilmember Carvalho: Good morning. Thank you for everything that you
folks do for our island. Having created that entire program at Ke`e and I wanted to say that
it is very important that we look at every single way to support that particular lifeguard
operation. Just the presence there is important and I know there are many challenges. I just
wanted to say that upfront that whatever we have to do to look at that Ke`e Beach operation
and support the different levels. My question is on the operational changes that you have one
page 4, training. You have that in there and I just want to know that you did increase the
budget, but where are we at with the training in general and what are some of the support
you might need? I understand you are trying to do the Train the Trainer program, but at the
same time, how do you keep the training program moving in a positive way that you might
need support?
Chief Goble: We have been successful in maintaining positivity
around the training program. Like I said, I think one of the challenges that we have had in
the past has been the lack of strategic direction for our training programs. I spoke a little bit
about it earlier about if there is a new regime out there that fire departments are
experimenting with, our team is very proactive and we would look to that as a future solution
and invest in quick ad hoc types of trainings that did not necessarily fit our model and the
way we are trying to go. We asked the Training Bureau to be more strategic about their
approach, align with our overall strategic priorities, and then ultimately create a program to
ensure that we have accomplished mastery at the basic level. That our folks are well-versed
on the absolute basics of the job in order to be consistent with our service delivery, be effective
with our service delivery, and be safe with our service delivery. We built that into our system.
A lot of buy-in across the board with that idea. The days of sending six (6) people off to
Florida for the latest and greatest training, those days are behind us, I think. Because we
cannot afford to go chase the flavor of the month and because we have identified that there
is a cost to that that is not sustainable to us, so we want to be able to bring those things in-
house when we can, creates experts in our teams, so instead of sending six (6) people out,
maybe it is two (2) people that we send out to bring that skillset back to the department and
then we use that model to deliver it out across the board. Overall, there has been a great
appreciation for the strategic vision that has become a part of that training plan and we feel
like we got a good foundation for success with it.
Councilmember Carvalho: That is good. It is good that you reach out and
bring it home and work it internally. That is a good concept. I like that. Whatever we can
do to support that, thank you.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Under the narrative on page 4. At the very top,
you talked about"Operational Readiness," and the summary total listed there is $97,000 but
the two (2) pieces are $37,000 and $65,000 so I think there is a typographical error, because
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it totals $102,000. But the top one, the $37,000 for replacing a fire pump skid unit brush
truck located at Hanapepe Station. It is listed there and I believe I saw it in the budget as a
line item as budgeted to be done, but then on the next page on the chart of deferred items,
unless it is a different location and different truck, at the bottom, it says, "truck five fire
pump skid unit is due for replacement," $37,000 and it says,
"deferred seeking grant funding." Are those the two (2) same items and what is the status of
that?
Chief Goble: They are two (2) separate items. We identified
overall the need for two (2) units to be replaced. However, our Fire Department mechanics
were able to put a stopgap measure in-place using parts from the two(2) to make one (1) good
one. That is the goal we think we can accomplish, and it will get us through another year
without having to purchase that second skid unit. Station 6 is the Hanapepe Station. That
is the one in the most immediate need. We will scavenge the pieces from that to make it
whole and we will defer that out for an additional year for the full replacement.
Councilmember Kuali`i: In the next section on operational challenges
regarding training, some of the other Councilmembers were talking about it already, but this
line item talks about doing a lot of the training in smaller groups during regular work time.
You say that the training budget was cut deeply in this current fiscal year so we should see
that maintaining that lower budgeted level. I did not see anywhere a line item...because I
think I saw it elsewhere...overtime training, that was eliminated last year, and we have
overtime for training in this new budget?
Chief Goble: There is an item in the 1104 account under the
payroll section. It is classified under the regular overtime number. It is on your master page
152.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Okay, it is under Regular Overtime. I believe I
saw a line item called Overtime Training specifically for training. I would be interested to
see that breakdown to see how we are doing. If we are budgeting differently based on this
goal in the narrative, I would like to see a breakdown of those training items.
Chief Goble: This number is almost exclusively for that
training piece. We have it broken down by program and instructional requirement. I can
certainly get that to you. I will say that this is an area that we consider to be discretionary
as far as overtime goes. This is not the rank-for-rank or anything driven by the collective
bargaining agreement (CBA). This number remains unchanged from last year to this year,
even though we recognize there are probably going to be savings experienced. We also
recognize there is a shortfall in other areas and this is a place to save money and distribute
to those other areas, if needed.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Under operational challenges, that whole item
about Ocean Safety and the need for the $405,000. Is that not currently in the budget? You
said you think you have solutions in-place. I think I heard the Managing Director say that
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we will see what the State ends up budgeting for FY 2022. With the new American Rescue
Plan, the State is getting approximately $480,000,000. I would hope that we could push or
strive to show the State how important this is and maybe wait and see how they budget to
get that funded in there. The $405,000 would be less that 1/10th of 1% of that $480,000,000
that the State is probably getting. That would be about 3% of the $14,000,000 that our
County is receiving. I would imagine that we see that as critical. The last piece under Fire
Operations and the twelve (12) open positions, you talked about how they impact the daily
requirements. In the last sentence you say that these positions will remain open until
recruits can be added and trained. When do you think you will have those recruits added
and trained?
Chief Goble: We are actively recruiting at this point. We have
completed the written exam and the physical agility portion of the recruitment. We have
interviews scheduled for later this month and then we will have a list established for
potential hire. The complicating factor for us is the application for the SAFER grant for the
replacement funding of those twelve (12) positions. Essentially, if we move forward and fill
those positions, they would become disqualified for that potential award. We have delayed
our recruit class pending information from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) on
the SAFER grant. They stated their first indication of awards will come through in May, so
we are hoping to be a part of that initial wave of either approvals or denials, for those
positions.
Councilmember Kuali`i: That is actually the second part of my question.
When I flip the page over, it talks about the SAFER grant. Is that grant intended to fund all
twelve (12) of those positions? You were saying that you would hear about it in May. When
is the latest you could hear about it?
Chief Goble: Yes, May is the initial first wave. We hope we
have a good relationship with the folks who are responsible for that grant. We hope to at
least get an indication of what they are thinking in that first wave, but it could be as late as
August or September before they would distribute those funds.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Once you hear, you can start distributing the
funds right away?
Chief Goble: That is correct. We have our recruit class agenda
all lined out and ready to go. We will have everyone identified by the end of this month. It
will be a matter of plugging those recruits into the system and scheduling a start date.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any further questions on the
presentation? If not, we will move into the budget. I know we received a lot of answers on
the budget as well. We will go through the line items and start with Administration. Are
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there any questions for Administration? If not, we will move on to Operations.
Councilmember Cowden, was your question on the twelve (12) vacancies answered already?
Councilmember Cowden: Yes, that was my question on that. If possible,
and this can be sent later, I would like to see an organizational chart of the retirements and
the internal promotions. I am curious how much of our leadership staff has moved and how
much of our internal positions are filling those openings. That could be something you could
send later, but that would be of interest to me.
Chief Goble: I could quickly comment on that.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay.
Chief Goble: We recognize the value of our leadership
positions, especially when it comes to our operational staff, and having someone supervising
and responsible out there. We promoted all of the positions up. The Captains in the stations,
one of our retirees was a Battalion Chief, and behind them operators for the apparatus. Those
positions were filled. All of the vacancies are at the lowest level of the organization, the Fire
Fighter level.
Councilmember Cowden: Regarding that, I am curious about the one
employee who ran the wildlife and brush fire prevention unit. Is that person still here or did
he retire? We had a very good person in that position where the work was increasing due to
more brushfires. I am hoping that we were able to hold on to that knowledge. Has that
person retired?
Chief Goble: A Captain from the Fire Prevention Bureau was
one of our retirees. He was very engaged in the statewide efforts surrounding wildfires. That
knowledge has been transferred to his replacement and one of our Battalion Chiefs has taken
up the position specifically for the area in and around Anahola, working on building good
relationships out there with people that are stakeholders dealing with that problem. We are
targeting that area a little bit because of the number of fires that have occurred there. We
are also building relationships with people at the State and transferring that knowledge from
the retiree to his replacement in the Bureau so as not to skip a beat.
Councilmember Cowden: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Kuali`i, followed by
Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember Kuali`i: I have a follow-up question on the twelve (12)
positions. You stated that the testing and physical agility portions have been completed and
that you are currently doing interviews. After the interviews, you have selection and could
be ready to go as early as the grant funds become available in May, correct?
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Chief Goble: Correct. We are tentatively looking at probably
the second pay period in June to start them. That is our hopeful target.
Councilmember Kuali`i: If for some reason you do not get the approval in
the early round and you have to wait until August, at one point you were saying that we could
get them started and the grant could reimburse us, but you were saying that that would not
be allowed? If we start it, we have to finish it, and we would not be eligible for the grant
anymore, is that correct?
Chief Goble: That is correct.
Councilmember Kuali`i: If we have to wait for August, we will just wait to
start them?
Chief Goble: Yes. Again, with the relationships that we have
with DHS, we hope to at least get an indication of where our application stands fairly early
in the process.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden has a follow-up question.
Councilmember Cowden: Do any of the fire crews have a platoon of three (3)
or is it always a platoon of four (4) at every station?
Chief Goble: We have distributed the vacancies across the-
Department. We have a maximum of one vacancy in any given station on any given crew.
We are maintaining safe staffing levels of four (4) as much as we possibly can.
Councilmember Cowden: So some have three (3)?
Chief Goble: The assignments are four (4) per station and five
(5) in a couple of the higher-volume stations. There are rare occasions where they will drop
to three (3).
Councilmember Cowden; Okay.
Chief Goble: We have a couple of extra folks on each shift in
those five-person stations, and they will rove to the vacancies to maintain the staffing level
of four (4).
Councilmember Cowden: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Kuali`i.
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Councilmember Kuali`i: Based on the results of the recruitment, will we
have enough to fill all the slots?
Chief Goble: Yes.
Councilmember Kualii: Are you interviewing more than twelve (12),
should one (1) or two (2) drop out along the way?
Chief Goble: Yes, our recruitment was not as productive as we
hoped. We originally started out with two hundred sixty-seven (267) applicants, I believe.
We only had one hundred forty-five (145) actually show up for the first phase of the test,
which is the written portion. I think that was largely due to COVID-19 restrictions and the
difficulty in traveling, and some other unknown obstacles. Of those one hundred forty-five
(145), we had forty-three (43) that actually passed the written exam. There was a larger
failure rate in the written exam than what we typically experience. Of those forty-three (43)
that move forward to the physical agility portion of the testing, we had sixteen (16) actually
passed all phases of the initial testing process. The pool is fairly small. However,_this
appears to be a group that is dedicating themselves to preparing and being ready to be '
firefighters. We are hopeful that we will be able to pull twelve (12) from that pool. I have
also fielded a handful of transfer requests from neighbor island fire departments that could
help us with that problem as well. I think we have the ability to get twelve (12) into the
Department.
Councilmember Kualii: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: With the sixteen (16) who passed and the
twelve (12) vacancies that you have to fill, you spoke a little about sending our recruits to
learn about the most tech-savvy things that go on in Florida during our fire training. There
are a lot of things that go on here on Kauai with the trails that a lot of your recruit trainees
from Kauai know about. The men and women from Kauai know that background. I am
always an advocate for the Kauai community and looking at the commonsense attributes
when hiring. I noticed that the written and physical tests are quite difficult to pass here.
Regarding the Anahola brushfires, it was brought to my attention by many of our firefighters,
especially in the fire station near Anahola, that there are a lot of abandoned vehicles in the
DHHL area. What are our plans to make sure our firefighters are safe when they are out
fighting those fires near abandoned vehicles? A lot of them have toxic fuels or oil still left in
them.
Chief Goble: Right. That is a complex hazard. In our line of
business, you have a brush fire, a car fire, a house fire, or a commercial fire, and you can kind
of couch those things into those different categories. With the problem specifically in
Anahola, it is an interface of a lot of those things. Often the abandoned vehicle is at or near
the source of the fire and is perhaps the reason why it started. Our folks are exposed to
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additional hazards out there that are not typical to normal brushfires. We rely very heavily
on our leaders out there, the Captains in the fire stations. Their first role is risk management
and they rely on their training and equipment to protect themselves and their crews to the
level that is required for them to take care of the problem that is in front of them. It is
complex and making fighting a brushfire more difficult when you have to wear your turnout
gear, your SCBA tank and mask, and it is hard work that we are asking our folks to do out
there. It is required though because of the uniqueness of that problem and the complexity of
that problem. We have to take the highest level of precaution in our toolbox to address those
fires. We have followed up with the State and have done some good foundational work to
help with removing the vehicles that are in that area. They are working through an
incremental plan to help us with that problem and they will also be supporting us with
cutting fire breaks as we enter into the brushfire season. They are also working to install
some fencing to help prevent the additional influx of vehicles and abandoned vehicles in that
area. We continue to work at the problem from a number of angles, but it is definitely a
tough problem for us and our crews.
Councilmember DeCosta: Chief, you mentioned safety. Are you working
with the State of Hawaii or with the DHHL?
Chief Goble: There are a couple of stakeholders. DHHL has
been the lead in that and we have been working with the Department of Land and Natural
Resources (DLNR) and their enforcement team as well.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you. At least there is some kind of
movement in that area. I know it is very hazardous to your firefighters and we want to keep
them as safe as they keep our community.
Chief Goble: Yes, and I know we have leveraged some of our
resources out there. Our training team has been out there and flown the area to identify the
number of vehicles located there. We can provide that information to the State so that they
can come up with their plan of attack as far as removing those vehicles. Again, we are trying
to address it on a number of fronts.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Evslin.
Councilmember Evslin: Would you mind speaking a little bit about
rank-for-rank? It looks like we are half of where we usually are historically for rank for rank.
Will we see a surge there? Is there an internal policy reduction or will we end up poaching
from other areas to try and fill it?
Chief Goble: The response is yes, yes, and yes. I think that is
ultimately where we are at. We recognized based on historical usage and on our projections
that the rank-for-rank budget line item is not sufficient to cover what we anticipate the
overall cost to be. Again, we feel it is our responsibility to manage those discretionary pieces.
I have already pointed to the training piece to potentially supplement or augment that. I
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think you are correct in that there is some pent-up vacation need within our Department.
We have been fortunate over the last year that people have not been able to travel as freely
as they would have liked. Our staffing issues have been pretty minimal this year. We
anticipated that. While we have controls in-place as far as how many people we allow off on
any given day, there will be a surge of taking advantage of the opportunities that are
available that will drive those costs. We think it will level-out over time and we think the
rank-for-rank, while the cap is fairly high as defined in the CBA...at least there is a cap,
right? So we know what that maximum cost will be. We will keep an eye on the trend of that
as we go through the year.
Councilmember Evslin: I know you are really constrained on efforts to try
to rein back rank-for-rank and I appreciate the steps you are taking in that regard. My own
hope is that your budgeted line item for rank-for-rank would reflect what you really think it
would end up being at, rather than having to do modifications to take from other areas. I
appreciate you are in a hard position here.
Chief Goble: Yes. A lot of our personnel costs are a product of
trying to capture the overall expected costs. There has been some short distributions here
and some overdistribution there in hopes that we would cover the hot-button items as we
work through that personnel cost piece. I think the challenge for us will be that we had a
number of folks retiring this year. Ten (10) people went out and that will drive some of those
pension costs that are also kind of a sensitive area when it comes to personnel costs. It is
going to be a tough one. I do not want to candy coat it. It will be a strain on the resources.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: So you are bracing us for a big punch?
Chief Goble: We hope not.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any further questions for Fire
Operations? Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: On master page 141, the line item for Other
Services...can you talk about the helicopter pilot contract? What is the basis for the contract?
Do we get so many hours at a certain rate? Are the pilots on-call?
Chief Goble: The helicopter pilot contract is for a defined period
of coverage. They are available to us sun up to sun down on an on-call basis and available
within certain windows of time to be with the bird on-site in a defined way. It also broadly
reaches to on-call status for helicopter pilot resources. That is the cost of having that resource
available to us seven (7) days a week, any time that resource is capable of flying. It does not
have the ability to fly at night, so once it is dark, there is no ability to fly. During daylight
hours, that creates availability for this important resource for us.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Can you tell me the distinction between when they
respond to a call versus when they are just waiting? I know in some other situations, I have
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seen where individuals are primarily on-call and they get paid a certain amount for being
available and on-call. When they are called out and they actually make a call, then they get
paid a significant amount. Two (2) different amounts where in the long-run if they do not get
called out that often, there would be a floor. Is it some private operation that we contract
with? Or is it just a contracted flat rate whether they go out at all?
Chief Goble: We have the Assistant Chief on the call and he is
kind of our helicopter expert. I believe this cost is intended to cover those highs and lows.
We get bills and invoices for service when they fly, and this is built into the overall cost for
the helicopter pilot and helicopter contract in general. Assistant Chief Kanoho, I know he
probably has one (1) ear on the State operations meeting for COVID-19, but I am hoping that
he can jump on here to answer you.
SOLOMON KANOHO, Assistant Fire Chief(via remote technology): It is a
contracted item. It is actually a three-year contract that gets reviewed by the Department
and the vendor each year. This is the third time that we have actually had this contract
in-place and renewed. There are instances where we have budgeted for certain items to
address the on-call standby versus the time period when the pilots are available at the
helicopter at the hangar and all of that is factored into the monthly and annual costs to
operate the helicopter. We have been pretty good at keeping within the amounts and being
very efficient with our costs and budgets. I hope that answers part of your question.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Yes it does, thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember De Costa: Did we ever do an analysis spending $500,000 a
year on the pilot and helicopter services of possibly getting a funding source to hire our own
helicopter pilot and buy our own helicopter? Perhaps there might be a cost-benefit over time.
We are looking at $1,500,000 to cover our helicopter costs for three (3) years. Would that
cover the cost of owning a helicopter?
Assistant Chief Kanoho: The Air One helicopter is currently a
County-owned helicopter. We do own the helicopter. However, the services to fly the
helicopter and to maintain it annually is contracted out. With that being said, we have had
one of our captains in charge of the helicopter cadre looking to see if that is something that
we might incorporate further down the line as part of the Department as opposed to a contract
to see what cost-savings there might be. That would only be for the pilot similar to the City
and County of Honolulu. The maintenance part would still have to be a contract, because we
do not have the ability with our fire mechanics. They work on apparatuses and are not
trained in helicopter maintenance. We are taking a look at that and hopefully will be able to
put something together that we can discuss further with the Fire Chief and Administration.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you.
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Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any other questions for Fire Operations?
Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: No, thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: If not, we will move on to Fire Prevention.
Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Under master page 146, the second item is
Regular Overtime. The two (2) pieces: Fire Safety Trailer Public Appearance, thirty-nine
thousand five hundred forty-four dollars ($39,544) and Fire Safety Trailer School
Appearance, thirty-five thousand dollars ($35,000). These two(2)line items, I would imagine
in this past fiscal year, were impacted by COVID-19 and your ability to actually go out in the
public and do these services. Do you anticipate that come July 1st that you could still be
impacted and not be out there doing these services? It says, "4 personnel, 18 appearances"
and "4 personnel, 2 appearances per month."
Chief Goble: Yes, I think that if we look at this through the
COVID-19 lens, we recognize that these are the things that would and could be impacted, our
ability to deliver these things in-person. Again, as we look at the full scope of the budget and
the shortfalls in some areas and the potential discretionary pockets of money that we might
have available to help us fill those shortfalls, this would be one of those spots that we would
definitely look at. In this past FY when we got the finalized contract for the Bargaining Unit
14 group, this is the first place we went because we knew that we were not going to incur
these costs this fiscal year, but we were able to allocate this forth to cover the increase in
salary cost that was not accounted for in our additional budget. We look at this as one of those
things that if we can deliver this service, it is great, it is good for the kids and community.
However, if we are still under limitations and limited ability to deliver this in-person, we
would look to reinvest this in those other areas that we anticipate to be shortfalls.
Councilmember Kuali`i: It was exciting to hear in your opening about the
virtual tour that was created by the crews at the Kaiakea Fire Station. Thank you for that,
so once schools open we could do that, if you are not able to go in-person.
Chief Goble: Yes.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there further questions for Fire Prevention?
If not, we will move to Training.
Councilmember Cowden: I know you covered this somewhat in the
overview, but I am still wanting to understand a little better. I attended a few of the fire
trainings that are set up over in the Administration—I actually learned a lot. It looks like a
big group and the firefighters come in and do collective training so that there is uniformity
and agreement and understanding, is that one of the things that we would not be doing
anymore?
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Chief Goble: We have identified and created expertise across
the department in specified areas. We have a team of folks who are focused on auto
extrication, the use of the "jaws of life" process that is their world, which is what they spend
their extra time learning more about than the rest of the team. We call those training cadre
and we have a number of them across the department: EMS, helicopter, auto extrication, a
number of them out there. These groups of departmental experts that we rely on very heavily
deliver these trainings to the teams. We know that there is no one person who knows
everything, so we rely on that group approach to get a good, well-rounded understanding of
the subject matter and deliver that training to our teams.
Councilmember Cowden: Does that mean that trainer is going to just go out
to the different stations and train them out there instead of having the collective group come
into the main Administration area? Are you still going to do the big collective training
together?
Chief Goble: That will be based on the subject matter at-hand.
It is a delicate balance for us. We want to maintain our response capability as much as we
can, so our first method for delivering training is in a fire station. That keeps that resource
available to respond within their district. The second level is when the resources are just not
available in the station and we have to bring them into the training center here in the
Administration building, then we do displace crews from time to time and get training, either
because there are additional resources needed or that needs to be a larger group. We will
then pull one group from one part of the island and one group for another. We will rove crews
out to cover those voids as we go. There are those trainings where it just makes sense to try
to get it all done in one big shot, when we can, and that is one of those things that drives our
overtime costs. We cannot afford to have those big groups be assigned to duty that day,
because we lose our response capability. We will bring folks in for mandatory large group
training as part of our training delivery model as well.
Councilmember Cowden: That is the one that I was asking about, because
some of it takes too much focus to be doing it at the station because if there is a call, obviously
things are going to have to stop. I believe what I have attended, they were on overtime pay
on a day that is not their platoon. It sounds like we are doing a little less of that, but that will
not stop.
Councilmember Kuali`i: On master page 155 under the training part,there
is "Other Services." Other Services have been flat at $25,000 for the last three (3) to four (4)
years and now it is being raised to $45,000. It says, "EMS training coordinator"—can you
say a little more about what that is?
Chief Goble: A big majority of the response is the EMS that we
provide to the island. We have been doing this work with a cadre approach, however what we
are learning is that we need more academic type of training that is provided through an EMS
coordinator. We identified a great resource here on the island that is tied into the UH system
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for EMS training and that is what you see as the additional $20,000. The $25,000 is for the
medical director, which has the general oversight of our overall program, approves our
protocols. We work under that license to deliver our service. The EMS training coordinator
is specific to recertification training, certification training for our new hires, and ongoing
continuing education for our teams. We feel like that support is critically important to us
because of the high call volume that is related to EMS, as well as the high liability that is
associated with that service and so it is important that we get this right. We feel like adding
this resource, this is the area that we pulled resources from our administrative line item and
transferred it here, because we just believed that this is hugely important. This is another
area where we have been able to leverage our technology. We got a big chunk of our
recertification training done in a virtual environment and things like that, so this training
coordinator gives us some flexibility to deliver that service in that way as well.
Councilmember Evslin: On page 153, there is $10,000 for Jet sSki
refresher training. At least two (2) years ago we heard a little bit on the floor about your
aging Jet Ski fleet and it was right around the time on O`ahu, a member there almost died
after the Jet Ski training. Out of curiosity, have you been able to upgrade any of your Skis,
are they still aging, does it hamper your response time or a possible danger to your training?
Chief Goble: Overall we have taken a big look at our Jet Ski
response program on the Fire Department side. What we identified is that our Ocean Safety
team are the subject-matter experts, they are on those skis every day, they have the ability
to train at a much higher level than us, with that specialty type of training. The grand plan
is to rely on them as the primary response for Jet Ski incidents. We want them to be the ones
who are in the water for these things. We will continue to support them from the Fire
Department side to provide a safety platform to augment the rescue efforts and those types
of things, but we are transferring that primary responsibility to Ocean Safety where we think
it belongs. However, there are remaining gaps in that system. Currently our staffing levels
do not cover pre-9:00 a.m. hours. When we put the folks in the towers and the Ski goes into
service to 8:00 p.m., but then there is a gap after the towers are evacuated and the Ocean
Safety team goes home. We have identified, primarily out at Fire Station 1, out in Hanalei
that remains a risk for us and a gap that we need to fill. This Jet Ski refresher training, a
chunk of that is dedicated to that team. We have put together a really strong plan to make
sure that they are maintaining their training and equipment, maintaining that sort of
operational readiness profile that we expect from them. They have an old Ski. It is a 2009
Ski that was donated to them by the community a number of years back. They have taken
great care of it, but it is not the piece of equipment that it once was. Through our replacement
program with the Jet Skis on the Ocean Safety side, however, we just got two (2) new Skis in
for them. One of the Skis that would have normally been going out of service will now be
moved to Station 1 because it is in better condition than the one that they currently have. We
will continue to use that model to try and support that, until we can establish the plan that
gets us the covers we need from the Ocean Safety team.
Councilmember Evslin: Out of curiosity, what are the barriers for others
to overlap and use the OSB equipment on off times?
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Chief Goble: There are not many other than our level of
training, so when we look at this line item, we are establishing a basic level of response
capability with our Fire folks, because we just have so many other requirements out there.
The training that the Ocean Safety team goes through is at a much higher level, requiring
many more hours to certify and maintain certification, so it is largely a training issue. We
set strict parameters in our plan for the Fire Department responses as far as their risk
assessment of any given situation and so we cannot have them go out in high surf morning
conditions. They just do not have that level of training and capability behind them.
Councilmember Evslin: I meant on an afterhours call, where they have
their outdated Ski, how come they cannot just use OSB's better equipment? Is it that they
cannot get it quick enough to respond to it? How does that work?
Chief Goble: Yes, I think that is really the restriction. The Ski
that they have is in their station, it is on a trailer, they hook it to their mule, and they run it
down to the dock and launch it fairly quickly. To get access to the Ski, it would take some
effort to go to the baseyard to get it launched, so it is a time-sensitive issue.
Councilmember Cowden: I think this is closely related, I am looking at
Public Safety Diver, page 158. There are two (2) locations for Public Safety Diver, there and
on page 159. I can see why you want to always be trained up for diving. I want to know just
a little more about who are our Public Safety Divers. Are they in the Fire crew and not in
Ocean Safety? Is that when we are looking for a body? Can you tell us about Public Safety
Diver?
Chief Goble: Correct. These are folks in fire stations that have
an additional level of training to allow them to do search, rescue, and recovery in deep water.
This is a dedicated team of folks that we have provided resources and training to for those
very difficult underwater rescues and recoveries. Unfortunately, in the dive world, too often
these are recoveries as opposed to rescues, because these are below the surface. We have a
team of folks that are dedicated to that. This is one of our other cadres that are able to provide
training across the department for folks to support their organization and to try get them
and to support the actual dive team themselves, so people in the water. The costs that you
noted for the two (2) people, this is one of those kinds of trainings that we just cannot get
here locally. A lot of the expense that you see with these two (2) folks for per diem costs and
travel costs are all about getting these folks to O`ahu where the training is available for them.
They bring back what they learned—this is part of that "train the trainer" approach. Those
two (2)will bring it back to the rest of the team and train them to that high-level of training.
Councilmember Cowden: I just want to acknowledge those people doing
that. That is not only personally dangerous, it is also tragic typically when you are recovering
someone loved by others. I am also looking at the drone money. How much are we using
drones to help our process? That is probably a great strategy. How often do we use the drone?
Is there a drone at every station now?
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Chief Goble: We essentially have a drone at our disposal and
we have a drone team dedicated to it. These folks are licensed pilots for that unmanned
aircraft. We use it in a number of ways. We have used it in emergency response, looking for
people who are lost, missing people, those types of things. It takes a while to get this
researched deployed, so we have found that is not the best use for it. It is a very useful tool
for us from a prevention standpoint, however. We do fly and with the example of the Anahola
area, we have flown and mapped that area using that drone, so we can identify where the
threats are and then work on the plan to mitigate that threat. Most recently, we flew it up at
the landslide on the road out there to Hanalei to assess the damage. It really gave us a great
overall quick perspective of the impact to that area. What the overall exit of the slide were,
we shared that information with the folks from the State, so they were able to put a plan
together even prior to their arrival based on the footage that we were able to present to them.
It has proven to be a very useful tool.
Councilmember Cowden: I am pleased to see that and learned that. I also
want to acknowledge the dollar funding, it looks like quite a number of conference travel and
attendance. Part of that, I am sure, is COVID-19 and for saving money. I know there is value
with conferences, but I just want to acknowledge that is slimming down in an area of the
budget. I appreciate the dollar funding and am just acknowledging it.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Any further questions for Fire Training? If not,
we will move on to their final division, which is Water Safety. Do we have any questions for
Water Safety?
Councilmember Kuali`i: Page 163, Position No. 745 Ocean Safety
Officer II, vacant since November 2020. On the vacancy report, it says no activity. When HR
was before us, I asked and they said they put out for the position and recruitment started.
Can you give us an update on this position and when you expect to fill it?
Chief Goble: The challenge with this specific position is that
this was a termination back in November and at this point we still consider it subject to
grievance, so we have not been overly aggressive with filling the position. We have
recruited—same type of timeline. We have completed all the preliminary testing including
the physical agility. We are interviewing on April 8th to establish that list so that we can
move forward. In conjunction with that we also have a couple of short-term vacancies, the
part-time type folks that we will look to probably fill those vacancies to help us with our
staffing issues. But we are still working through the grievance process on the termination.
Councilmember Cowden: On page 163 where it has the Ocean Safety
Officers SR-15, those numbers seems strikingly low right there, is that because they are
part-time? Comparatively to the salary, or do I have that wrong?
Chief Goble: Yes. That account is for the part-time folks.
These are our limited service type of people.
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Councilmember Cowden: On page 162 where we see the dollar-funding for
Kee, in alignment with what Councilmember Carvalho said, are we just saying that we are
not doing it there or are we still trying to figure that one out? Are we looking for grants?
Chief Goble: Yes, that is the intent. We have the positions held
with dollar funding in the budget account, but we are working through those alternative
needs to try to identify a way to get this done. This has historically been funded in this way,
because it has been reimbursed through the State, through their process, but going forward,
we are working hard to try and find the solution that makes the most sense.
Councilmember Cowden: On page 160, I am sure there is a good reason, but
I just do not understand how it is presented here. I am looking at the collective bargaining
item. We see the Mayor's request is for one thousand two hundred sixty dollars ($1,260) but
the expenditures and encumbrances is thirty-four thousand seven hundred thirty-nine
dollars ($34,739). How can we bring that one down low on collective bargaining? Can you
explain to me what that is? I do not understand.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Chief, we went back to the Training Bureau.
Chief Goble: In that line item we have historically seen a
higher expense, however this year we are funding that at one thousand two hundred sixty
dollars ($1,260).
Councilmember Cowden: How can we just do that? Maybe I do not
understand what collective bargaining is. I thought we had no choice or control over collective
bargaining. How do we just say we are not going to fund that?
Chief Goble: This is a matter of this money being allocated in a
different place. Since a large portion of this cost is for turnout gear and things like that, so
that our training staff still maintains their ability to respond to calls and things like that,
they fill vacancies in fire stations from time to time. They are required to wear their personal,
protective gear. This falls all into that category and this money is largely reallocated in the
1102, in the Fire Operations budget. It is not necessarily missing, but it is absorbed into that
overall cost for the Fire Department.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Page 164, Premium pay. The detailed line item,
Jet Ski premium, $58,000. Can you tell me what this is?How is it paid out? Does it take into
account that on-call and the actual use? Is it limited to the people...I suppose there are only
certain people who are trained to use the Jet Ski.
Chief Goble: That is correct. There are folks who are trained
and proficient in its use and this premium is based on their assignment to that Ski for that
day. There is not a standby status for them typically. They get this assignment on a daily
basis and then this is the premium that is assigned to that specialized work.
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Councilmember Kuali`i: Is that a collective bargaining item as well?
Chief Goble: Correct.
Councilmember Cowden: Can you speak to your Junior Lifeguard Program
plans this year? I see that we have collectively $15,000 for that. I know that we are dealing
with COVID-19, so I see some dollar funding in this item. I want to just acknowledge how
amazing the Kaua`i's Junior Lifeguard program is. Is this going to be on hold this summer?
Chief Goble: No. Our team is hugely disappointed as well that
we were not able to deliver this last year, just because of the restrictions from the pandemic.
Our team loves to put this on. They recognize that the community just falls over themselves
in order to get enrolled and be a part of this. It is a fantastic program for us and for the
island. This year, because we still have restrictions with group size, level of contact, and
social distancing requirements, we do not want to lose the momentum again this year, so we
are going to deliver a Junior/Keiki Lifeguard program in a very limited way. About half the
size of the groups that we are used to seeing, limited amount of contact, an overall smaller
effort, but we are going to engage this year to provide that program to the island. Again,
probably about a fifty percent (50%) reduction in the participant level. Some restrictions on
our ability to perform live rescue techniques, but it will largely be demonstration, follow
along, classroom, and we will do our best to keep the group engaged. We do recognize the
value and the importance of keeping the momentum going for the program.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay. I just want to honor how important that is.
My background used to be surf and skate. Our young people save people all the time. It is
great for the kids, it is great for the community, and it is great for the people who lived
through the disaster, because we have these awesome kids.When we live next to a dangerous
ocean, we want to have our young people just as solid as possible, because even just saving
yourself and having the confidence to make the right choice is really important. I cannot give
enough "props" to that program. I am glad it will return this summer and I thank all in our
Fire and Ocean Safety team who are part of it—I want to acknowledge having made Kaua`i
proud even in our national competitions and sometimes we come home with the number one
position for the entire country.
Councilmember DeCosta: Have we thought about having some type of fire
fighter junior program or"donation hours" like how they do in other fire departments across
the nation, where they have volunteer firefighters who serve so many hours? Those hours
are contributed to their test-taking and upon them requesting to become a firefighter, if they
pass all the tests, as far as written and physical, then maybe their hours of contribution as a
volunteer firefighter might play a part in their evaluation score. Have we thought much
around those lines about having a program like that?
Chief Goble: Great timing for that question, actually. Through
the Friends of Kaua`i Fire Department, the 501(c)(3)group that has been established here on
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the island, we are recognizing a need to create that same type of thing that the KLA has with
the Junior Lifeguard Association. It is important to identify people who are making decisions
about their career early in their life and want to learn more about the job and what it takes
to be prepared to pass the test and to do the job. The Friends of Kauai Fire Department has
started to put together a proposal to do exactly that for us. Same type of thing. If it is the
Fire Department itself that is the sponsoring agency, we run into some challenges in
identifying people and bringing them in, but through an objective third-party, they can put
together a pretty good program to identify folks that are interested in the career path and
ultimately can move and create a strong candidate pool for us, making our department better,
because at the end of the day that is what we are looking for. They are looking at doing this
islandwide. We are looking for folks who are service oriented, so this is a group that can start
to learn that side of community service, can learn about the department and the job, and
whether they choose to be firefighters at the end of the day or not, we have instilled some
good values in folks and improved our community in general. Yes, I think that is a great idea
and is something that is in the infant stages of being developed in the Fire Department.
Councilmember DeCosta: The only difference I see is that our Junior
Lifeguard is for teenagers under the age of 18, am I correct?
Chief Goble: Correct.
Councilmember DeCosta: You might want to look at in the preliminary
stages to incorporate men and women who have the time or maybe only working part-time
and would like to make a career change.
Chief Goble: It is important to cater to that group. What we
know is that our most successful candidates have a wealth of world experience. They went
out, worked jobs, and they have applied themselves in different situations and learned to
work with people, et cetera. A group that is interested in a career change is worth our
consideration as well. I think that is a good idea.
Councilmember Carvalho: I remember transitioning from lifeguards to water
safety officer and from lifeguard stand to lifeguard tower and the importance of the
maintenance. I saw there is some funding here for upgrades or transitioning of water safety
towers. You have some funds set aside, but what are the plans for that? Any additional
towers needed or upgrades?
Chief Goble: We are looking at the condition of current towers
and then where is the logical location for future towers as well. One of the sites that would
provide a roving patrol is out there at Wanini (`Anini) and so we think that is likely the next
tower location, however there are a number of challenges with that site. A lot of people use
that area for different reasons, so there is a mix of boats, boards, swimmers, and they all kind
of work in the same area, which creates a challenge for us. One of the things we have done
was reach out to the state to help us with identifying boat lanes and areas for specific uses
and out in that area to help us better manage that mix of folks. We Are trying to make sure
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we are well-positioned when funding comes our way to put a tower there. KLA has been very
generous and active in the pursuit of seeking funding from the community to help us with
those types of resources. One of the startling things to me is there is a cost associated with
the tower...the ongoing maintenance...these things are built to last a significant time, but
we have noticed in three (3) of our towers out there on the north end that the floors are
starting to weaken over time, just the fiberglass and the construction of them, they are
starting to become like sponge. We identified what those are and the manufacturer of those
has a fix for them, but the costs are pretty steep by the time we get them here and get them
in place. It is one of those items that we intend to defer for now, but we have an eye on that
as a priority in future times.
Councilmember Cowden: I have a follow-up. I know at one point we were
working with the Division of Boating and Aquatic Recreation (DOBAR). There are older
patterns of who can swim where, when, and how to do those shared uses. They worked pretty
extensively on these competitive uses of the water and I do not know if the Ocean Safety folks
really want to police of all of that, but it is an issue. What I have seen, because I have been
down there lately and used to teach windsurfing, sometimes the swimmers choose to swim
right through the windsurfers and I will even talk to them on the side and they are doing it
as a form of protest. That is really more of a DOBAR piece, but it certainly affects our Ocean
Safety Division. As the Public Safety & Human Services Committee Chair, I am very willing
to be a part of that conversation, because I have quite a bit of history and understanding
regarding what the pathway was. There is current tension, I can say that. You might know
that, but DOBAR was a good partner.
Councilmember Chock: I did not see any Community Emergency
Response Team (CERT) funding. Can you give us the status of that?
Chief Goble: CERT funding is one of our successes. Getting
CERT up and running and working and having that resource out in the community has
proven to be important to our overall response capability. We know that in this last budget
year, that funding was eliminated. I heard from the active CERT groups pretty regularly and
they were very understanding, of course.The pandemic is hard to put CERT training together
anyway so we just pushed the pause button on the CERT program in the short term. In the
long term, we have worked specifically with a group on the North Shore. They are intending
to share that with other CERT groups across the island. But they came to me and asked if
they could support the CERT training in some shape or form. I told them that we really could
not take a direct donation of that sort, but that we do have community partners out there
that might be able to facilitate that. Again, we worked with Friends of Kaua`i Fire
Department as kind of that vessel to make that happen. We paired the CERT team
leadership with the Friends of Kaua`i Fire Department to work on a mechanism to try to get
that important training delivered out to the community. A partnership that achieves the
goal and allows us to support it, but still keep a dollar in that fund instead of applying a
bunch of other additional funding to it.
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Councilmember Chock: I appreciate that. One of the concerns I recall, and
this was some time back, was the location for the trailer. Has that been resolved?
Chief Goble: I am not sure about that. I know we had some
issues with the storage...I believe it was with the church, but then there was some challenges
with that site and access and the fact that the trailer was showing its age as well. I am not
sure where that stands, but I will definitely follow up and get you an answer.
Councilmember Cowden: I believe that particular CERT team on the North
Shore is still meeting and working independent of the fire station. The Fire Department
supports their choice to do that, is that correct?
Chief Goble: That is correct, yes.
Councilmember Cowden: Is there anyone other than the Princeville CERT
team continuing to be working together and keeping their skills and their organization
sharp?
Chief Goble: There has been less participation from the other
groups. The North Shore group is certainly the most active, the most engaged, and rightfully
so. They recognize their immediate challenges and their preparation served them well here
over the course of the month. The other groups are still engaged. There are groups that just
need a little more direction to achieve their goals. They are still out there, they are still
organized, and they are still willing participants.
Councilmember Cowden: The ham radio operators group...I am with KKCR
too, so that vector is continuing to be in place and I am glad that Council Vice Chair Chock
has brought this up because we really do not want our emergency services, certain types of
teams to be atrophied while we are seeing no increase in flooding problems all around the
island. It might be that the North Shore is the most motivated because they have a lot of
direct impact regularly. I am glad that is continuing and CERT is a very important part of
our overall public safety program. Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any further questions for the Fire
Department? If not, we will take our ten-minute caption break.
There being no objections, the Committee recessed at 11:10 a.m.
The meeting was called back to order at 11:29 a.m., and proceeded as follows:
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Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Welcome back, next up, we have the Kaua`i
Emergency Management Agency(KEMA). Elton, if you would like to give us a brief overview
of your budget, please begin.
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ELTON S. USHIO, Emergency Management Administrator (via remote technology):
Aloha everyone. Is my microphone volume okay?
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Yes, you are good.
Mr. Ushio: KEMA has come in with what we feel is a fiscally
responsible budget. If you look at the most significant changes, they are largely limited to
that which is tied to collective bargaining and contractual increases of what we call
multi-term contracts already in-place. We have one (1) new equipment item for a repeater
replacement at the Pacific Missile Range Facility (PMRF). This is not for PMRF, but it is for
our public safety 800 mHz radio system. This system provides 800 mHz coverage for first
responders when they have incidents or calls out in that area. As for operational challenges
this year for KEMA, with the COVID-19 pandemic on-going, we have seen our longest,
historical continuous activation of the Emergency Operations Center (EOC). Our extended
team of emergency management partners, our incident management partners, all levels of
government, various sectors in the private sector, community-based organizations, et cetera,
all came together for the best interest of keeping Kaua`i safe. It has been a challenge. KEMA
has expanded with additional personnel supporting the incident. Even with that, very much
of our time has been focused on the COVID-19 pandemic. Nonetheless and despite these
challenges, we have kept our budget relatively flat and not had that impact of line items that
we are proposing to you. We have had some operational highlights for the year. First, as we
have already mentioned, the COVID-19 pandemic and our on-going response. Even with
that, our organization and our extended team of partners have been able to successfully
respond to things such as the Hurricane Douglas activation last summer. We have had
telecommunications improvements made, such as the integration and bringing in the
National Guard, Emergency enc Medical Services (EMS), and Sheriffs into our radios stem for
better interagency interoperable communications. Lastly, we helped with the alternate
dispatch center for the Kaua`i Police Department, which also will help us with our COVID-
19 and all-hazards response. We have done some maintenance on the radio system as well.
Additional things that have come up, as you know very well...we experienced a rather active
wet season this year culminating in our most recent incidence of major flooding and the
severe landslide on the North Shore. That incident tested our team and everyone rose to the
challenge. It is quite an honor to work with such a good group of emergency management
professionals. Finally, we prepared, submitted, and have initial Federal Emergency
Management Agency (FEMA) approval, pending formal adoption, for our Hazard Mitigation
Plan Update. That is a major accomplishment that we were able to do regardless of the
ongoing pandemic and all of the additional workflow associated with COVID-19 and a very
active weather year that we have had. Again, it is quite an honor to be a part of this team.
I am very thankful to the Administration, to the County Council, all of our Federal, State,
and County partners, private sector, community-based partners, as well as all of the people
that we serve for our collective response to the pandemic this year. We look forward to what
is to come, but we acknowledge that there will be additional challenges as we attempt to
safely reopen. Today, April 5th, is the day we have opted back in to the transpacific portion
of the State's Safe Travels Program. Operations have kicked off with the first flight this
morning. Staff has been busy getting ready for this and thus far today, there are quite a
number of things going on. We have more follow-up and things that we need to continue to
work on. Seeing what this results in as far as disease incidence and how we have to respond
to it from there, how we continue with phase II of the vaccination program, and how that all
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rolls out into where we gradually return to normalcy will be interesting to see. That is all I
have for you at this time.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Is that it? You only had to deal with COVID-19
and natural disasters on the island. Just kidding. Thank you, Elton, for all of your hard
work. We definitely have seen our share of additional work. It is becoming a new normal
with the pandemic and all of the storms. I would rather see us not have all of these
emergencies, but I am confident in your work. You have been proven and tested through all
of these storms and pandemics. It gives me a lot of comfort knowing that you are there and
prepared. Does anyone have any questions on the presentation? Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: On page 2, operational challenges, when you talk
about the eleven (11) personnel, I think you said, "Partners, all levels of government, and the
private sector." Of those eleven (11) personnel, how many of those are from other County
departments, how long do you anticipate continuing to use their services, and when would
they go back to their regular jobs and duties?
Mr. Ushio: Those eleven (11) personnel are actual KEMA
employees, those which appear on our actual budget submittal. We also have an Incident
Management Team (IMT) made up of representatives from various County, State, and
non-governmental organizations (NGOs), and that is a bit more than I can describe off the
top of my head. We do have various employees from different agencies as part of that team.
Those are not part of the eleven (11) that I mentioned in our presentation.
Councilmember Kuali`i: What do you mean when you say, "...increased by
eleven (11) personnel"? Did you have ten (10) employees and you now have twenty-one (21)
employees?
Mr. Ushio: We have additional personnel supporting
COVID-19. For example, when we implemented the inter-island travel quarantine, and
people wanted to apply for a modified quarantine request or exemptions, we had to create an
office and hire personnel. We have two (2) managers assigned to that, in addition to support
staff. We have a testing operation at the Kaua`i War Memorial Convention Hall, so we have
had to hire personnel to do sample collection, the laboratory portion, management, et cetera.
We have had to hire various positions supporting COVID-19. We have also had some
expansion prior to COVID-19, due to our management of Act 12/Act 35/Act 9 legislative funds
for flood recovery.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Basically, we are not going to see those positions
in the budget, because they are all from special funds and not from the General Fund?
Mr. Ushio: Correct. That is why we were able to come in
relatively flat with the budget. We are leveraging other sources of funds for our expansion.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
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Councilmember Cowden: I did not see an increase in salaries. How much
CARES Act funding did we get that was directed at KEMA operations? Do you remember
how much that was in dollars?
Mr. Ushio: I do not have that exact breakdown for KEMA
operations. CARES Act was approximately $28,000,000 overall. If we can get that question
submitted to us in writing, I can make sure our staff gets the correct figure to you.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay. Thank you for a job well done and for an
impressive job at that. It seems that almost since I have been elected that you have been in
one emergency or another. I do not think I have worked with you when you are not in the
middle of an emergency. I appreciate all that you do. When I am thinking about those eleven
(11)positions...hopefully this COVID-19 stuff will pass us by soon. Are these positions going
to keep carrying forward? Do we have funding for next year for these positions?
Mr. Ushio: We are having to operate under principles of
incident command and how each incident will expand or contract depending on developments
and how things are going. Right now, we are at full expansion, so to speak. As the pandemic
continues on and hopefully improves, we should slowly be able to scale back on operations.
We just started to do that to a small degree with a partial downsizing of our testing operations
at the Kaua`i War Memorial Convention Hall given our reentry into the Safe Travels
Program. We know that the demand on the persons testing under the Enhanced Movement
Quarantine (EMQ) or Resort Bubble Program is going to decrease. If you are able to take a
pre-travel test and be free from quarantine, I think more visitors will tend to do that versus
take a pre-travel test and be in an EMQ bubble. We saw back over the holidays where test
demand was significantly lower than when it peaked in the past few weeks. There is a small
downsizing there, but we are still capable of processing the people who come through. As
each phase of the pandemic or the recovery continues, we will downsize accordingly or adjust
accordingly. Hopefully we do not need to adjust upwards by restaffing or bringing in
additional persons, but I could see the next foreseeable change as an example being that
should we eventually do away statewide with the interisland travel quarantine, then our
need for a modified quarantine request portal for the County would go away. Then that
portion of our operations can be phased out. It all depends on how the incident is going. We
will expand or contract accordingly. I do not foresee most or all of these positions being
continued over the long-term, if they are hired specifically for this incident.
Councilmember Cowden: Thank you. How has your physical office space
been functioning? I know the Office of the Prosecuting Attorney and the Kaua`i Police
Department...I remember when that building was built, but seemingly, it is getting crowded.
Are you folks fine in your space?
Mr. Ushio: I owe a lot of thanks to people who have come
before me here at KEMA and the vision for creating this facility. They created a hardened
EOC facility with adequate workspace and breakout rooms. In short, we have been able to
fully house our IMT as well as our partners and staff expansion here, for the most part. One
exception would be for our modified quarantine request team is currently utilizing the offices
at the Purchasing Division as their worksite seven (7) days per week.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay, thank you.
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Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you for a job well done. You have been
tested time and time again. It is no doubt that you are the man for the job. I have a question
on page 172 on what we call Other Rentals. Could you explain that $96,000+?
Thankyou foryour kind words. Credit goes to the
Mr. Ushio:
entire team, yourself included. As for Other Rentals, those are leases for locations where we
have infrastructure, tower, and repeater sites for the County's 800 mHz radio system and we
had to lease properties to put the infrastructure on. That is what that line item covers.
Councilmember DeCosta: Do you have a breakdown of the properties and
whether they are private, State, et cetera?
Mr. Ushio: I could provide that to you in writing in more
detail. Off the top of my head, at La'aukahi, that is private. Moloa`a is private. Pu'ualanakau
is private. Kukuiolono Park is private. Kalepa is private. Mount Kahili is a State-leased
site. What we have there is for a helicopter rental for access to the site. Our
Telecommunications Officer is on this call as well, so if I have made any errors, he can chime
in. Anahola, Pu`ualanakau is actually on State Department of Hawaiian Home Lands
(DHHL) lands.
Councilmember DeCosta: I see the three (3) sites, but the numbers do not
correspond to the $96,000.
Mr. Ushio: If you flip to page 173, there are additional sites
there. Those should total $96,000.
Councilmember DeCosta: The Kukuiolono site amount looks pretty high
compared to everyone else. Is there a reason why?
Mr. Ushio: It really depends on how much space we have out
there with the infrastructure and negotiations with particular property owners. Some
owners have a very unique site. Somewhere like Kukuiolono or Kalepa, we do our best to
negotiate well on the County's behalf, but those sites come at a higher price.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you for clarifying that.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any other questions on the
presentation? If not, we can go into the budget as well. Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Under vacant positions, one of them is
Position 9403, Grant Fiscal Specialist. That one is dollar-funded and the other one,
Position 9033, Disaster Assistance Project Manager is blank. I know that they are both, or
one of them is funded by State dollars and the other by federal dollars. The first one is
currently filled by an 89-day hire and the other ones says that it is, "Continuously recruiting,
hope to hire soon." In both cases, are they being funded by grants; are the funds fully there?
Is it just a matter of filling it and then continuing on the 89-day hire?
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Mr. Ushio: Let me clarify. For the Grant Fiscal Specialist
position, that is a position that supports the Homeland Security Grant Program, a grant that
we have received for many years. We are actively looking for someone there, but in all
honesty, COVID-19 and the other priorities have taken precedence over our efforts to recruit
there. We actually filled other positions before filling that one. The Disaster Assistance
Project Manager and the other Disaster Assistance position are funded via Act 12, which has
since been extended into Act 35 and Act 9. Those positions are meant to help us manage and
implement the flood recovery funds from the State Legislature. Those are at no expense to
the County. While we have ongoing projects and we have made some progress there, COVID-
19 has taken the bulk of our focus in the past year.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any other questions for KEMA? If not,
we can move on.
Councilmember Cowden: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Thank you, Elton. We will move on to Police.
Kauai Police Department
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: We have Chief of Police Todd G. Raybuck
on the line. Chief, if you want to give us an overview of your budget and some highlights of
your Department. We can then go from there.
TODD G. RAYBUCK, Chief of Policevtia remote technology):gy): Good morning
Council Chair Kaneshiro, Council Vice Chair Chock, and Members of the Council. Thank
you for the opportunity to provide KPD's Fiscal Year 2022 budget and answer any questions
that you may have. This year, KPD's budget request is $40,201,353, and is a 1% reduction
from last year's budget. This is a decrease of approximately $415,000. 91% of KPD's budget
is comprised of salary, wages, and benefits. This is a 1% increase over last year and the
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remaining 9%of KPD's budget includes 1% for utilities, 1% for vehicle and equipment leases,
and 7% or $2,700,000 for operations, which is a 1% decrease from last year's budget. The
changes and variances FY 2021 budget are included on page 4 of our budget narrative that.
KPD has three(3)funding sources, the operational General Fund, the Criminal Assets
Forfeiture Fund, and grant funds. Nearly $2,000,000 that KPD receives from State and
Federal grant funds and Enhanced 911 (E-911) funding offsets the Department's operational
budget by nearly 5%. Included in the grant money is E-911 funding of $740,000, which
supports KPD's dispatch operations as the County's public safety answering point. The
Department of Transportation—Traffic Safety grants equal approximately $625,000 each
year, and grants of nearly $200,000 to KPD's vice section primarily through the Hawai`i
High-Intensity Drug Trafficking Area to address much of the needed funds to address our
community's drug problems. $73,000 in Federal grant funds provided by the Office of the
Attorney General provides 100% of the funding needs for KPD's Sexual Assault Nurse
Examiners (SANE) program.
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As was the case across the County, COVID-19 forced KPD to reassess and reprioritize
our goals, to respond to the global pandemic. In addition to maintaining daily law
enforcement operations for our community, March 3, 2020, KPD initiated many new internal
and external protocols to protect the health and safety of our employees and our community.
Since April 2020, KPD implemented many new operational responses due to COVID-19,
including initiating roadway compliance checks due to curfew and stay-at-home orders,
managing compliance between 500 and 2,500 persons in daily mandatory quarantine status
through compliance and welfare checks that we began in April of 2020, and maintaining daily
airport passenger screening for all incoming interisland and transpacific passengers to
ensure compliance with State and County COVID-19 travel restrictions.
In addition to prioritizing the physical health of our employees during the pandemic,
KPD worked with a software developer to deploy a law enforcement wellness application.
The application does not collect any personal information from the units providing employees
and their family members 24/7 confidential access to resources on officer wellness, emotional
health, self-care, suicide prevention, and direct connections to counseling and support
services. Since initial deployment, the application has been downloaded 145 times and users
have had more than 1,500 individual engagements inside the application.
Although the impact of COVID-19 resulted in hiring freezes for a period across the
County and KPD, I want to thank Mayor Kawakami for allowing KPD to continue hiring in
our critical first-responder positions. Department vacancies continue to provide challenges
to KPD operations, and we continue to focus on filling all of our vacancies. Earlier this year,
I provided the Council an in-depth overview of the Matrix Group Staffing Report
recommendations for KPD patrol staffing based on the baseline staffing levels of eighty (80)
patrol officers. The Matrix Report provided a short-term recommendation to increase
authorized patrol staffing by eleven (11) officers and one (1) sergeant. This budget does not
have a request for those additional positions, but we anticipate filling all sworn vacancies
during FY 2022. Between January 2020 and January 2021, KPD hired twenty-five (25) new
recruits. We have fourteen (14) remaining sworn vacancies and seventeen (17) candidates
for the July 2021 recruit class who already received conditional job offers. Three (3)
candidates are pending conditional job offers and eleven (11) candidates remain in the
background investigation phase. It is my hope that KPD will be able to fill all sworn vacancies
in the July recruit class. There are currently eight (8) civilian vacancies. All eight (8)
vacancies are either in current recruitment, in the process of recruitment, or in the process
of interview and hiring.
Moving into FY 2022, the Department's goals are to improve safety;improve employee
safety, wellness, and resiliency; enhance organizational efficiency and increase community
engagement. These are the same goals that we had for FY 2021. However, we continue to
remain focused on these three (3)key areas that include our employees, our Department, and
our community. KPD will continue to focus our efforts on providing the high level of customer
service we have provided throughout the pandemic and to protect the health and safety of
our employees and community members. COVID-19 negatively impacted our community
policing and community engagement efforts such as our K-PAL youth program and Coffee
with a Cop program. Although those efforts were placed on-hold, we were able to remain
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engaged with the community throughout the pandemic through programs such as police meal
distributions, kupuna lunch deliveries, Special Olympic awards, and kupuna holiday
stocking deliveries. The pandemic delayed the organizational changes within KPD. We
anticipate COVID-19 operations will be reduced in the next fiscal year in large part to the
high percentage of community members receiving COVID-19 vaccinations through the great
work of the Department of Health and continued compliance with COVID-19 prevention
protocols in our community. It is my goal to refocus attention towards the Departmental
reorganization plan and patrol schedule for consideration and implementation in FY 2022.
In closing, I would like to thank Mayor Kawakami and Managing Director Dahilig
and the Mayor's Budget Team for all the work and support they put into this year's budget
preparation. I want to acknowledge and thank my executive staff for the hard work they put
in to preparing each of their bureau's budgets and want to acknowledge and thank Fiscal
Officer Daurice Arruda, who always works tirelessly and does the heavy lifting when it comes
to KPD's finances. She helps me understand and know what I am talking about when it
comes to KPD's finances. It is a tough job.
Finally, I want to thank all of the employees at KPD. While we are here talking about
the dollars and cents of the budget, they are the real nuts and bolts of the Department. I am
proud of the great work that they perform, sometimes under extreme conditions, and for the
daily sacrifices they make in service to our community. Thank you again for the opportunity
to provide an overview of our budget and for the support each of you continue to provide to
KPD. I am sure you do not have any further questions for me, but just in case, I am able to
answer those for you now.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: There are no further questions. I am just kidding.
Are there any questions on the Chiefs presentation? Nice try, Chief. Are there any questions
on the operations synopsis from the Members? KPD did a good job of line-iteming any
variances in the budget. I know that you most likely answered in advance a lot of our
questions that we normally ask, so as we go through the actual line items, there may not be
as many. I think you knew ahead of time what we wanted to ask. Are there any questions
on the budget from the members? Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: On the bottom of page 8 and the top of page 9, you
talked about the 94th recruit class and twenty-seven (27) applicants for the 95th recruit class.
Can you talk about the fourteen (14)job offers? Is that for the newest recruit class from the
twenty-five (25) recruits? Did you get twenty-five (25) out of the twenty-seven (27)
applicants?
Chief Raybuck: Thank you for your question. I believe that is
true. I think we lost...I am looking at my notes here. We may have lost a couple. We had
six (6) applicants out of the twenty-seven(27) that withdrew or were disqualified. Out of the
twenty-seven (27) we still have twenty-one (21) remaining. They have either been provided
a conditional job offer, they are pending a conditional job offer, or they are still in the
background check process.
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Councilmember Kuali`i: Further down on page 9, near the bottom, just
before number 4, you talked about researching a vehicle list that will provide certain
additional spaces. Can you talk a little about that? You have evidence which sometimes
includes vehicles. With the current storage, is that area inadequate and do you need
additional space? What is the plan there? What are the options? Do you not have any
additional land space?
Chief Raybuck: Thank you for giving me the opportunity to clarify
that. Yes. As you may know already, the parking is a premium here at our main station.
The secured parking area behind the station, which is supposed to be intended for employee
parking, as well as evidence, is overwhelmed. It is inadequate for our current needs. When
this building was built approximately twenty (20) years ago, there was limited space then
with the number of employees that we had at the time. Now it is even more limited with the
increase of employees. The evidence vehicles that you are talking about...when a vehicle is
involved in a certain crime, or a traffic accident, the Department is required to maintain that
vehicle throughout the history of the court proceedings. That may mean all the way through
conviction and/or appeal, which could be a very long period of time. In reviewing what our
options were, as you mentioned, there is limited space and growth needs for us. That side of
the building, outside of the perimeter fenceline, is owned by a private entity, which the
County had anticipated and tried to acquire, but that has not happened at this time. In
walking the lot, and thanks goes to Keith Perry from the Office of the Mayor, we discussed
many issues that included perhaps even trying to reacquire some of the other space that is
being used by other County entities so that we could maintain and control our ever-growing
evidence in the back lot. Keith Perry and I discussed other options; one was coming up with
the lift. Using that lift in a space of ten (10) parking spaces will hold thirty (30) vehicles.
Because these vehicles are not necessarily going to be moved very often, and because they
could sit in storage for many years, it makes sense for us to go vertical instead of horizontal,
freeing up additional space for other evidence and our parking needs. I want to thank Keith
Perry and our evidence team for doing great work at identifying which vehicles and
equipment can move out there and they have done an outstanding job.
Councilmember Kuali`i: For the $150,000 line item under Public Safety, is
that a one-time cost? Are there no additional costs to that?
Chief Raybuck: To the best of my recollection, the remaining
$150,000, and I may have to ask Daurice to jump in here, is for us to move through the
architectural design and implementation phase. Daurice, could you provide confirmation on
that for us, please?
DAURICE ARRUDA, Fiscal Officer II (via remote technology): The $150,000 is for
going out to bid for the vehicle lift itself...for the equipment. The architectural design is
already contracted, and we are working on specifications right now in order for us to go out
to bid in the next year.
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Councilmember Kuali`i: Thank you. The only other thing, the land that is
immediately adjacent, is that not just vacant with grass growing? Is there no ability for us
to get additional land, even on a long-term lease basis, if we were not able to purchase it?
Chief Raybuck: I do not know that I can answer that question.
That falls more to the purview of the County Administration than it does KPD to acquire that
land. The lift allows us to use the space that we currently have. It is not going to eliminate
all of our space needs. It will reduce the space needs and allow us to mitigate some of the
long-term problems that we have had with our limited space. The hope would be that
eventually the County could acquire that land. If we are not able to use the $150,000 to
purchase the lift, we would require some grading in that area, as well as providing perimeter
fencing and other safety measures in-place along with acquiring the lease and permission to
do so.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: Since we are talking about collisions and
accidents, I have a question on your collisions and accidents. What is the protocol with your
dispatch group that calls out tow trucks to the area when vehicles involved in the traffic
accidents are being towed? Are they being towed to a County area and then re-towed later?
We seem to have a lot of constituents getting billed high amounts for the tow. I just want to
know what the protocol is for using a certain tow truck company and whether that is open to
all tow truck companies. How does that work?
Chief Raybuck: Assistant Chief Mark Begley is the one who has
procured the contracts for towing and he will be better able to explain the process for utilizing
tow trucks. If I could have Assistant Chief Begley answer your question for you, that would
be ideal. If he is unable to answer, we will certainly respond to you in writing.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you.
MARK BEGLEY, Assistant Chief of Police, Patrol Services Bureau (via remote
technology): For towing of accident vehicles that are non-police
evidence vehicles, we do not have a contract for those services. Our standard operating
procedures for the officers on-scene is to request three (3) bids to remove the tow from
companies as close to the site and to request that the towing company move the vehicle to
the closest safe location on the side of the road. I have heard there are many occasions when
the tow truck has removed the vehicle to the baseyard, and that occurs when there is no
preference by the owner in situations when the vehicle is a rental or when there is insurance
involved. We have begun to hear there are some issues with that. We are going to have to
update our policies to try and address those concerns.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you. The complaint came across to
numerous Councilmembers about certain tow truck companies getting all the calls and
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having the scanners telling them to show up at the accident scene. We just want to be able
to be fair with our business practices and not have chaos going on with somebody getting a
call and another person showing up to the scene taking the vehicle. A much clearer standard
operating procedure would be appreciated. Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Council Vice Chair Chock.
Councilmember Chock: Thank you Chief for the narrative. It was very
helpful in looking at your review this year. Just a follow-up, and this question might be for
Assistant Chief Begley as well. I am looking at the specific line item for evidence towing. It
was brought up by Councilmember Kuali`i. Is the evidence towing related to the towing of
cars? There is a line-item budget of$76,500. Can you confirm if that is the towing of vehicles
and the contracting of tow companies for the removal of these vehicles. That is under Other
Services, which I believe was an increase. I am looking at page 106.
Chief Raybuck: I am sorry, can you repeat the page number one
more time?
Councilmember Chock: Page 106.
Chief Raybuck: Assistant Chief Begley, could you answer this
question. It looks like it is in the Administrative & Technical Bureau (A&T).
Assistant Chief Begley: The Kaua`i Police Department has three (3)
different contracts for the towing of vehicles. The evidence towing contract and single tow
contractor is responsible for managing evidence tows and that is a separate contract from the
abandoned/derelict vehicles managed by the Patrol Services Bureau.
Councilmember Chock: Do we know how many tows they administer for
us? Is there only one (1) contractor for evidence towing?
Assistant Chief Begley: I would have to refer you to the Administrative &
Technical Bureau for those numbers.
Councilmember Chock: No problem, we will follow up on that.
Chief Raybuck: I see Assistant Chief Ke is on to give you the
numbers or to respond in writing.
Councilmember Chock: In hearing Councilmember DeCosta's questions
about what it is we are being subject to in terms of towing, I want to get a sense of what the
need is and how we are spending our budget.
ELLIOTT K. KE, Assistant Chief, Administrative & Technical Bureau: Good
morning. I would have to do some research and get that information to you in writing. I do
not have that information available to me at this time.
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Councilmember Chock: Not a problem.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: I have some basic questions. It looks like the way
your budget is set up, you have all your salaries under Chiefs Office. Is that correct? Unlike
how the Fire Department separates it out, you have all your positions under the Chiefs Office
and then the expenses are separated for the Patrol, Investigative Services, and
Administrative & Technical Bureaus? Is that correct?
Chief Raybuck: Yes, that is accurate.
Councilmember Cowden: We had a couple of presentations from you that
showed the time trend. Would you say crime has been down substantially during the last
year with COVID-19? Do you anticipate it going up now that we are anticipating more
visitors,perhaps? I am curious if not having the visitors here impacted your demand. I know
you had a different type of demand with COVID-19. Are you seeing a trend?
Chief Raybuck: I can respond to you in writing with a specific
breakdown of where we are with crime based on preliminary numbers. I do not have those
in front of me right now. I can tell you from my recollection and anecdotally, that yes, crime
did decrease during COVID-19. There are a variety of reasons why that may have occurred,
and one is obviously a reduction in tourists, which is a reduction in population. Particularly
this is a portion of the population that is vulnerable because they leave valuables in their
vehicles and become victims of opportunity. When that population base is removed, you will
see a reduction in crime in that regard. Several studies have identified that during
unemployment times, when unemployment goes up and more people are at home, it is much
more difficult to become a victim of crime in your home and it is more difficult to steal from
someone when they are at home. You can see that there are different variables of why crime
may have been reduced during COVID-19. We saw a dramatic decrease in the number of
reported crimes across-the-board, of both violent crimes and property crimes. It may be any
of those variables in play or all of those variables in play on why crime was reduced. During
COVID-19, we continued to see, as we had in years past, an increase in calls for
service...49,000 calls for service this year, which was also an increase over last year, despite
the reduction in the tourist population.
Councilmember Cowden: That is what I was really wanting to know. I
thought you did a rather complete job on your synopsis. I do not have very many questions.
I would think that we would have less costs when we have less crime, but it is just holding a
baseline of service. I want to congratulate you for finally...it looks like this summer we will
have all vacancies filled. I think we had many vacancies throughout the time that I have had
this job. You are getting there. That is good and that was your goal. Good job on that.
Chief Raybuck: Thank you.
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Councilmember Cowden: For the 4/10 schedule, when do you think that is
going to go into play?
Chief Raybuck: That is a moving target. I had hoped for it to be
in place sooner rather than later, but based upon trying to squeeze out personnel, and use
their services to continue to coordinate, it has taken a little longer than anticipated. I hope
that we will get this 4/10 schedule and we are still working on the particulars of the staffing.
There are a lot of moving parts that change depending on our Department's priorities and
staffing. We are still going back to the drawing table to try and figure out a way to do that,
as I think I may have mentioned to you...the 4/10 schedule would allow us to increase
training and special projects time while on-duty rather than canceling days off and paying
overtime. Hopefully we will get that done within the first or second quarter of the fiscal year.
Councilmember Cowden: So, this budget for next year anticipates that
u yet?
halfway rou thh...or is it based on not havingthe 4/10 schedule
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Chief Raybuck: I do not anticipate that implementing the 4/10
schedule will create a dramatic difference in our budget. As you know, for unfortunately
many years, we had to rely on unpaid salaries to help supplement some of our overages. This
would just allow us to continue to do some of the things we had to pay via other ways. I do
not anticipate initially any difference. We will not know until it is implemented whether it
will lead to a reduction in our budget.
Councilmember Cowden: That is the clarification I needed. Before, we were
using unpaid salaries to pay for the overtime for those situations. Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Regarding vacancies, I know in the opening
narrative, you had said that you continue to focus on filling all of your vacancies. Starting
on page 91, Position E-23, Deputy Chief of Police. It has been vacant for quite a while. The
HR Vacancy Report says, "Continuous review for promotional consideration." When do you
anticipate filling that position, or have you already?
Chief Raybuck: I submitted a memorandum on March 30th
regarding the Captain and Deputy Chief of Police positions that outlines the recruiting efforts
and opportunities. As I mentioned in the memorandum, I was unsuccessful at filling that
position. However, I anticipate doing so and my goal would be to fill that position in the first
quarter of 2021.
Councilmember Kuali`i: The first quarter could be as early as July 1st or as
late as the end of the quarter, correct?
Chief Raybuck: That is correct.
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Councilmember Kuali`i: The other position is Position 446, Police Captain.
Similar position with the same comment regarding promotional consideration. What is the
plan for that position?
Chief Raybuck: That position was vacated on August 1, 2020 due
to a promotion. It is currently assigned to the Chiefs Office and part of the reorganization
plan that hit a pause due to COVID-19. The goal is to move that into the Patrol Services
Bureau providing two (2) Captains for responsibilities in that Bureau. The current
promotional process is ongoing for Sergeant to Lieutenant. I anticipate that as soon as we
can complete that promotional process, we wilLbegin implementing the recruitment for the
Captain's promotional process. I anticipate if that promotional process does not take longer
than anticipated, being able to fill that within the first quarter of the fiscal year.
Councilmember Kuali`i: For the other positions, I will just group them all
together. There are three (3)Police Lieutenants, five (5) Police Sergeants, two (2)Detectives,
and two (2) Police Officers. When you talk about the fourteen (14) job offers, with three (3)
being accepted, are those into positions that are listed in this budget? I only see two(2)police
officer positions vacant, and of course this is as of March 15th. Is it safe to assume that all
the upward movement is happening when you promote to the higher position and then the
lower positions open? Are you anticipating all those new recruits going into police officer
positions that are not necessarily shown as vacant right now?
Chief Raybuck: That is correct. When I took office in April of 2019,
there were approximately twenty-five (25) or so vacancies in the Department. They were all
carried in the Patrol Services Bureau, meaning that we were more than twenty (20) persons
short in the Patrol Services Bureau. We did a promotion shortly after my arrival for two (2)
Lieutenants and two(2)Sergeants. We have not done any promotions between now and then.
As you know, and as you referenced already, every promotion upward creates a vacancy
downward. The focus has been on filling the Patrol ranks. That is where we get a majority
of our canceled days off. I think I may have presented previously in the Matrix Report that
we dropped roughly 162 canceled days off a month down to under 60 based upon filling those
staffing needs. With that also comes a reduction in overtime and an increase in morale and
officer wellness, because they actually get their days off. Fortunately, because of the strong
efforts in our recruiting, background checks, and all of the personnel items that we have
worked so hard at between HR and KPD to fill the vacancies, I see a light at the end of the
tunnel. We are currently in the Sergeant and Lieutenant promotional process and will begin
the recruits in the July recruit class. Those promotions will be dependent upon how many
we can put into the recruit class. Once we do the promotions, it is important to remember
that if we hired all fourteen (14) vacancies today, they do not actually hit the street for
approximately 12-15 months. We do not see those boots on the ground serving our community
face-to-face until they complete their training. The promotions have to be balanced with the
police officers that are actually in the streets.
Councilmember Kuali`i: We just finished the Fire Department's review,
and they had a position that had the name"Trainee"in it. In essence, you have regular police
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officers who are on the streets and then you have police officers who are in training for 12-15
months, correct?
Chief Raybuck: The others involved in training are actually on the
side of a position number. They are considered Police Services Officers. They do not have a
specific recruit number. It would be filled under a position number for a Police Officer I.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Okay, so it is broken down that way.
Chief Raybuck: Correct.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Considering all of the different promotions and all
of the movements, do you expect to have all of this done within this fiscal year? Will you have
everyone in their positions, including Lieutenants and down, by July 1st?
Chief Raybuck: I think we have a lot of work to get there by
July Pt, but that is the goal.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: Chief, I am going to follow up on the question
regarding the Deputy Chief of Police. That position has been vacant now for over a year, is
that correct?
Chief Raybuck: Yes.
Councilmember DeCosta: Besides the Fire Department, you operate one of
the largest budgets. I am a little worried that you might need some help. When do you think
you will be looking to fill that position? Do we have any qualified candidates?
Chief Raybuck: The Deputy Chief of Police position has been
vacant since July of 2019. That was vacated by a retirement. For approximately six (6)
months or so, I did have an Assistant Chief who was in the office with me, assisting me with
some of those duties. I have continuously considered and looked at filling that position. The
Deputy Chief of Police is a critical position in my Department and one I wish to fill. I plan
on filling that within the first quarter. As you may know, that position is not by application.
It is an appointed position that I select. That person has to be a person who is in support of
me and my agenda in moving forward the programs that fit within our goals and objectives
that I set forth in the Department. I continuously look at that and I am confident that I will
get that filled in the first quarter.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you very much.
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Committee Chair Kaneshiro: We are most likely not going to be able to get
through this Department before lunch. We will take a few more questions up until
12:30 p.m. and then take a one (1) hour lunch break. Are there any further questions?
Councilmember Evslin.
Councilmember Evslin: Thank you for a very good synopsis. Your
Department consistently puts out a great summary, which is really helpful. For the
Grant-In-Aid item, could you explain a little about where that went this last year?
Chief Raybuck: The Grant-In-Aid amount was $499,000, I believe.
That funding in the last budget came by way of a conversation I had with the Managing
Director about looking at perhaps trying to utilize those funds to reduce the need for KPD
officers to respond to specific incidents, particularly those where there are social service
issues such as mental health, houselessness, and those types of issues. I think it was a great
and novel idea, and one we looked at trying to implement. However, as with many things,
COVID-19 distracted much of our attention to that issue. We wanted to utilize the funds for
that purpose and intended to reach those people with social service needs. I and KPD
discussed this with Adam Roversi and the Housing Agency as to how we could utilize those
funds and be able to support our houseless community and those most affected by COVID-19.
Working with Adam Roversi, we are identifying nonprofit organizations that will assist in
providing temporary housing or rental assistance to houseless communities as we continue
to move through this pandemic. In the next budget cycle, we did not request those funds
again, and I am not quite sure if the Office of the Mayor will be looking to utilize those funds
again through the Housing Agency or through another method. We have not been able to
utilize those funds here at KPD. We did not request them again.
Councilmember Evslin: Thank you for the update. I think that is a good
example of how we put so much on your plate, including social services, and it is good to
figure out ways to ensure that others can manage those potential problems. Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: We are exactly at 12:30 p.m. We will take a
one (1) hour lunch break and be back at 1:30 p.m. to continue with KPD's budget.
There being no objections, the Committee recessed at 12:30 p.m.
The meeting was called back to order at 1:45 p.m., and proceeded as follows:
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Welcome back. We are on the Kauai Police
Department. We are in the Chiefs Office division. Are there any additional questions? We
went through a lot of the vacant positions. The write-up highlighted many of the variances
throughout the budget, along with explanations. If there are no additional questions, we can
move to the Administrative & Technical Bureau. Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: On page 111, at the very bottom, the Public Safety
line item, it went from $1 last fiscal year to $54,000 this fiscal year. Can you tell us what the
new subsidized vehicle lights/radio is for?
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Chief Raybuck: Let me refer here to my notes. Speaking from
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Chief Ke: This particular line item here is specifically for
lights and radios for subsidized vehicles. In the past, we never had a line item for this
equipment. We decided to add it in so that moving forward we can track these expenses. We
have a certain amount of vacancies in our subsidized vehicle program, so we are trying to be
prepared for outfitting those vehicles as they come forward.
Councilmember Kuali`i: What is a subsidized vehicle again?
Chief Raybuck: The subsidized vehicle program allows us to afford
certain individuals in the Department, primarily Sergeants, Detectives, and above, to opt
into the subsidized vehicle program. The program is described in the collective bargaining
agreement and allows us to provide a vehicle...sorry, let me step back. We do not provide the
vehicle. It allows us to provide an allowance to the employees for them to purchase their own
vehicle. That allowance varies from $562 for those who are in certain assignments to $600
to those who are outside of those assignments. We currently have forty (40) authorized
subsidized vehicles, of which thirty-two (32) are filled. We have eight (8) vacant subsidized
vehicles currently available. The installation, vehicle lights, and radio installation is right
about $2,500 a vehicle. That would give us right around $20,000 to purchase the equipment
alone, but that does not include the cost for replacing vehicles or equipment for those vehicles
that are cycled out due to the life span. That is where that dollar amount comes from.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: Regarding the lights, I remember last year we
blew out some of our blue lights when we left them on. Did all of that get fixed?
Chief Raybuck: Yes. It was a struggle to get those fixed because
of COVID-19. The vendor that we solicited the services from was able to come over and fix
the lights that had problems. We have not seen any additional problems since that time.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay. So all our cars are functioning now with no
outages? Everything is behind us? Okay.
Chief Raybuck: That is correct.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are the officers still keeping their lights on 24/7?
Or are they turning them off and only keeping them on at certain times? I know that was
he keeping them on all the time.
the reason a lot of the lights were going out, because t y were p g
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Chief Raybuck: The order still remains the same that the officers
are to have their blue lights on in cruise mode, meaning going from a general call for service
or when they are available for a call. There are particular reasons why the officers would not
have their blue lights on. This could be when they are doing traffic enforcement, though the
public would want them to have it on, and it is much to the chagrin of the people who get
tickets. That being said, I do witness many officers with their lights on as it deters people
from speeding as well. If they are going to and from work or are off-duty or on assignment,
they also have the option to turn those off. Predominantly, they should be on.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Thank you. Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: Regarding the $500 to $600 allowance, is that per
month on each vehicle?
Chief Raybuck: Yes. The employee gets $562 to $600 per month
for the vehicle. They are required to come up with the upfront purchasing costs, as well as
carrying the full insurance coverage. The County pays for liability coverage. They are
responsible for all of the
p maintenance and equipment repairs, including the replacement of
the vehicle. What that allows us to do is not have to purchase those vehicles upfront. If we
had to purchase those forty (40) vehicles and rotate them out, that would be rather costly.
This kind of gives us a break from that with those forty (40) vehicles. It puts the financial
responsibility primarily on those individuals for that purchase and replacement rather than
on us.
Councilmember DeCosta: How long is this monthly cost incurred? Is it over
the life of the vehicle? If the officer owns a vehicle for five (5)years or seven (7)years, or even
up to ten (10) years, do we continue to pay them that premium price? Or do we only pay it to
them until the vehicle is paid off? How does that work?
Chief Raybuck: Per the collective bargaining agreement, the
payment is paid per month. That does not just pay for the cost of the vehicle. It is meant to
pay for the maintenance, the upkeep, repairs, maintenance costs, replacement of tires, et
cetera, and that continues while the employee is a participant in the program until they opt
out. If they opt out, it goes away. The vehicles are currently authorized to remain in-service
for eight (8) years initially and if they get a qualified mechanic to sign-off, they can get two
(2) one-year extensions. Over the course of ten years, if my math is correct, that would be an
average of$72,000 in payments. To put that into perspective, we paid about $72,000 for a
fully equipped Ford Explorer. That is so you can see just where the cost is on that as far as
a cost comparison. If we paid for the vehicle, we would also be responsible for the
maintenance, upkeep, and repair costs.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any questions from the Members? If
not, we can move to the Investigative Services Bureau. Councilmember Cowden.
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Councilmember Cowden: Regarding the autopsies and body storage, how
many people is that typically for as it relates to the $270,000?
Chief Raybuck: It really depends and I will tell you why it
depends. Some persons remain in storage hopefully less than seven (7) days, so it does not
cost us anything. However, unfortunately with Kaua`i being a tourist destination and being
a destination where we have people who live here without extended family members, it may
be longer. During the course of the investigation or with circumstances surrounding the
decedent's death, those storage costs are increased. I cannot give you a specific dollar amount
per person. It really varies depending on a lot of different factors.
Councilmember Cowden: Do we contract out with the hospital or with a
mortuary? We do not store them at the police department, right?
Chief Raybuck: Fortunately, we have an agreement with Wilcox
Hospital. They handle the storage for us and we have a contract with them where we pay for
storage fees. It is incremental depending on how many days that person is in storage. It
goes up slightly with each increment. That is factored into the cost. It is based on the number
of decedents we have annually, as well as the average length of stay.
Councilmember Cowden: As far as the coroner, is that under contract as
well? Who is the coroner that does the autopsies?
Chief Raybuck: I am the coroner. Fortunately, I am not
responsible for the autopsies. We have a contract for a medical examiner from O`ahu who
flies over to conduct those autopsies.
Councilmember Cowden: You are the one who is in there who decides what
had happened to the person?
Chief Raybuck: No, fortunately, I am not. I have my detectives
who are considered deputy coroners, so they are the ones who respond and conduct the
investigation alongside with the medical examiner.
Councilmember Cowden: Thank you. I probably should have known that,
but did not. Thank you.
Chief Raybuck: If it makes you feel any better, I found out that I
was the coroner after I took the job. I found out during lunch when I asked if the coroner
made death notifications, so you are not alone in not knowing that.
Councilmember Cowden: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any other questions for the
Investigative Services Bureau? If not, we will move on to Patrol. Councilmember Kuali`i.
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Councilmember Kuali`i: On page 119, under Other Services. This might
relate to the question that Council Vice Chair Chock asked earlier about the evidence tows.
There are two (2) line items. Abandoned vehicle tows for $125,000 and derelict vehicle tows
for$135,000. I am guessing this is similar amounts from prior years. Have we over-expended
where we do not have enough money in these line items and if so, where are you getting the
additional moneys from? It would be good to see how it has been working over maybe two (2)
or three (3) years.
Chief Raybuck: Yes, the $300,000 to $400,000 figure included the
labor costs associated with the abandoned and derelict vehicles, as well as the actual hard
costs of the towing. I am going to ask Assistant Chief Begley to opine. He is the Assistant
Chief responsible, wrote the contracts for both of these items, and will know how to better
answer your question.
Assistant Chief Begley: I am not sure I fully understand your question
regarding those funding amounts.
Councilmember Kuali`i: For these dollar amounts, abandoned and derelict
vehicles, what are we paying for? How many tows are we getting? Are we having to pay
more than that because we have a greater need? If so, how are we paying for it?
Assistant Chief Begley: Those amounts are for the actual tows. For
instance, under the $125,000 line item for abandoned vehicles, that supplies our contract to
have a designated tow contractor respond and tow the vehicles to the Puhi Metals Recycling
facility. It varies anywhere from $70 to $170 to tow those vehicles from their location on the
island to Puhi Metals. The derelict vehicle line item of $135,000, those are for derelict
vehicles at various geographic locations around the island. Depending on where they are,
the costs vary. For derelict vehicles the amount varies from approximately $200 to $300 per
tow to get it from its location to Puhi Metals.
Councilmember Kuali`i: If we tow less...it is a per item tow? It is not like
a contract where they are available to us and do whatever tows we need for a fixed price?
Assistant Chief Begley: Generally, that is correct.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Maybe it might be good to see the last couple of
years of expenditures that have been paid for each of those line items so if you could provide
that later.
Assistant Chief Begley: Sure, we can do that.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: I did a little of the math here and if we run an
average of between $70 and $170, the $110 average cost of a vehicle to be towed on the
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abandoned or derelict side, that equates to approximately 1,250 vehicles on the abandoned
vehicle side and about 1,350 on the derelict vehicle side. Is the contract a lump sum contract
that the towing company gets no matter if they tow 300 vehicles or the full 1,200 vehicles?
Assistant Chief Begley: No, we try to estimate at the beginning of the
fiscal year how much money we are going to spend on abandoned and derelict vehicles. The
amount that we request from the Council determines how we write the contract with the tow
companies. We estimate the number of vehicles at that time that we anticipate the tow
company to tow over the year. For instance, we budgeted $125,000 anticipating that we will
need that money for abandoned vehicles. When we go out to bid for the abandoned vehicle
tow contract, we estimate how many vehicles in each zone based on our prior year's work. It
is based on how many vehicles in each zone we believe will need to be towed and the
contractors will bid on that number of tows. For instance, the individual number for the
winning bidder might be $100,000 instead of$125,000. We have never failed to go over that
number of vehicles that they bid on. Every year that I am aware of, we always had more
vehicles that need to be towed than were in the contract. We always had to add money to the
contract to make sure that we have those services readily available to tow the greater number
of cars than were anticipated. Fortunately, so far, we have budgeted enough money in our
budget to cover that overage so we do not run out of money.
Councilmember DeCosta: That is the question that I was asking. For these
tow companies, they have a set amount of vehicles that they will tow when they submit a bid,
or for the $125,000, if there is an excess amount of twenty-five (25) vehicles over on the
projected side, do they still have to tow those twenty-five (25) vehicles, or do we have to pay
an extra amount?
Assistant Chief Begley: They tow for the same amount of money that they
were originally contracted to tow vehicles for. Each of the contracts varies.
Councilmember DeCosta: For abandoned vehicles, if it is on the side of a
County road, it is considered abandoned and we are responsible for removing it, is that
correct?
Assistant Chief Begley: That is correct.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Carvalho.
Councilmember Carvalho: Regarding training, could you provide an
overview on that? What does that entail for that specific service? This is on page 301.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: That is under the Criminal Assets Forfeiture
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Chief Raybuck: Part of our training budget has been decreased
and this year, we not only looked at moving additional moneys into that training area from
Criminal Assets Forfeiture Fund, but being that we are a neighbor island, there is often
training that we cannot anticipate and get invited to join from other counties. What they
will do is offer training opportunities to other county agencies that we have not budgeted so
we want to be prepared for that. Since so much of our training was canceled in 2021 and in
2020 due to COVID-19,we anticipate seeing an increase in training opportunities. We added
additional funds into the Criminal Assets Forfeiture side of the house that we could not
budget for in the General Fund. When other counties have that availability for us and offer
those training opportunities,we can provide that training to our officers through that means.
Councilmember Carvalho: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: The very next item, Other Services, it is going
from $25,000 to $45,000. The explanation is related to undercover operations surveillance,
use of other county's undercover officers, et cetera. Can you explain that a little further and
explain why it has almost doubled? How does that relate to other counties? Is this in
conjunction with us going to other counties and for them to come here? Is it related to
training?
Chief Raybuck: The undercover operations surveillance room in
the past...some of those costs were covered through Federal grant moneys to help us with the
funding to run the surveillance room and undercover operations. However, we also have to
anticipate that we may have investigations that are not in cooperation with Federal agencies.
When we co-op an investigation with a Federal agency, they typically pay for the expenses
for surveillance and undercover operations. If we do not co-op with the Federal agencies, we
are responsible for that fiscally. This is anticipating that we may need those funds for
investigations that come up that we do not have the Federal funding to support.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any further questions for Police?
Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: Assistant Chief Begley, on page 120, there is a
small amount of$2,000. It says that it is for advertisements for abandoned vehicle postings.
Is that for the vehicle abandoned on the side of the road or is that to post for the bidding of
the company that is going to get the contract for removing the abandoned vehicle?
Assistant Chief Begley: We are required by State law anytime we post or
seize a vehicle as abandoned to not only send a notarized letter to the last known address of
the registered owner of that abandoned vehicle, but we are also required to post an
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advertisement in the local newspaper listing the vehicle as abandoned and giving directions
to recover that vehicle before we can destroy it.
Councilmember DeCosta: For your derelict and abandoned vehicle bidding
process, do you open that up to the community?
Assistant Chief Begley: That is correct. We just strengthened the wording
in our abandoned vehicle contract requirements and that contract was recently filled. We
anticipate doing the same thing for our derelict vehicles. That is advertised by the
Purchasing Division so the public can see those.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you for the explanation.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any final questions for the Police
Department? If not, we will move on to the Office of the Prosecuting Attorney.
Office of the Prosecuting Attorney
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Justin, please provide a brief overview of your
budget, then we will finish with asking questions.
JUSTIN F. KOLLAR, Prosecuting Attorney (via remote technology): Thank you
again for your work during this challenging and interesting time for the County of Kaua`i.
This is my ninth year coming before you to do my budget presentation. Time certainly flies.
As you can see from our budget submission this year, we are requesting essentially a level
budget. It does not mean that nothing has changed about the budget itself. I think we have
highlighted the few changes that we have and we are doing everything we can to maintain
our current level of services without adding to the County's burden on the budget. We had
several grants expire and some funding that we count on that we received from the State
every year has gone away due to the State's COVID-19 budgetary problems. We have stepped
up and we are trying to do our part by leaving some of our clerical positions open and shifting
that funding to support existing employees who were on grants that were either expiring or
going away. We were very fortunate when the pandemic hit that we had invested in some
technology resources in the years leading up to the pandemic. I want to credit our retired
Administrative Services Officer, Art Williams, as well as our extremely amazing current
Administrative Services Officer, Yvette Sahut for helping shepherd us through that process
over the last thirteen (13) or fourteen (14) months. When the pandemic hit, we were able to
transition seamlessly to an online and remote work environment while maintaining our
schedules of in-person court appearances, along with the work that we do with the
community, the public, investigative services, and making sure our clerks were still coming
to the office during the pandemic. We made sure everyone was getting the support that they
needed while we were running on a skeleton crew in the office. I am very proud of our team
and very proud of what they managed to accomplish over the last year under very difficult
and challenging circumstances. I want to commend our attorney team, First Deputy Jennifer
Winn, Second Deputy Becky Like,Victim Witness Services Director Diana Gausepohl-White,
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and everyone on that team who really came together over the last year to keep things moving
while we were in a largely remote work environment. I am happy to entertain any specific
questions you may have regarding our budget. As I mentioned, it is pretty level. We are
looking at a less than 1% increase this year.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: I noticed in your explanation on the third page
that for Position 2830, Special Investigator, you moved that to an hourly account. Is that a
position we took out of Regular Salaries and made it hourly?
Mr. Kollar: Yes.
Councilmember DeCosta: What is the explanation for that? Are we planning
on saving the County money? Is this person putting in a number of hours more than what
we pay the salary for? Can you explain?
Mr. Kollar: Yvette can jump in if I am wrong about this, but
essentially, we are able to put that employee on an hourly basis because that is what works
best for them in their employment situation. That is just saving the County on the fringe
benefits costs and allows us to pay the employee a little bit more on an hourly basis since we
are not paying for the fringe costs. That is all that is.
Councilmember DeCosta: Is that person like a private contractor?
Mr. Kollar: No, they are still a County employee. They are
just an employee that is basically on a contract. They are an appointed employee.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: In the past, was that position funded by another
source? Is that a position that we just turned in a grant for?
Mr. Kollar: We are hoping that we will receive funding from
that grant application that could conceivably be used for this position. We do not know and
we will not know for a while whether we are going to get that money or not. It is a competitive
process that we have to go through.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Thank you. Are there any further questions?
Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: I really like the way you laid out your
presentation, especially when you are describing the dollar-funded positions. I see you are
short some of your clerk positions. We all know how much value staff has. In the past, you
have been pretty good at getting grants for a lot of these different positions. Where are you
getting the grants from? Are you trying to get grants? Are those Federal grants for the clerk
positions?
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Mr. Kollar: Some of the grant moneys we are applying for
right now. Those are primarily Federal in nature, although they are administered locally by
the State Office of the Attorney General. The Attorney General is designated as the grant
administrator for the State of Hawaii. The funds may originate from the Federal
Government via the Department of Justice, but come to us through the State. So, yes, our
clerks have sacrificed and worked really hard to keep operations going over the last year. It
has been difficult for them to operate on a short-staffed basis. We have been able to achieve
some efficiencies by making better use of technology. Again, these clerks are working very
hard and have high-pressure jobs. They primarily start at 6:00 or 6:30 a.m. and look at the
cellblock coordinating with core staff on getting them to court and out of cellblock in an
efficient manner. I really have to say that they are some of the most valuable people that we
work with both inside and outside of the office with the way they keep things working. We
are going to need to fill those positions at some point. This is what we have to do to keep the
bodies that we actually have in the office. This is what we have to do to keep salaries and
expenses covered for them. That is what they have to do.
Councilmember Cowden: We have the American Rescue Plan (ARP) Act
coming out of the Biden Administration. Perhaps there will be moneys in there? I think that
is the next round of funding.
Mr. Kollar: That would be great. I know the Department of
Justice is still working on filling a couple of their key positions and some of their
Senate-confirmed positions. We do not have a great sense yet of whether we are going to see
available revenue streams from the Department of Justice beyond what currently exists. I
will note that Congress finally re-authorized the Stop Violence Against Women Act which we
depend on for a lot of our funding to fight domestic violence. They have also made available
the Victims of Crime Act funding to keep those revenue streams coming to the states and
counties. The local jurisdictions depend on them. I am cautiously optimistic based on what
I see coming out of Washington D.C. and of course, we communicate with our legislators
regularly at the State and Federal levels. I would say I am cautiously optimistic. Maybe we
can look at filling those vacant positions later in the year once we know that additional
funding is going to be coming in.
Councilmember Cowden: Thank you. I just recognized how important
having things organized is for constituents going through the process.
Mr. Kollar: Absolutely.
Councilmember Cowden: And the trauma if someone is adjudicated,both for
the safety of the community and fairness to anybody that is in the adjudication process.
Mr. Kollar: We run a people-centered process. Our vision of
seeking justice largely centers on getting outcomes that benefit public safety, but also
ensuring that we are not retraumatizing people who have already been through very
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traumatic events. For my staff, one of our core ethical values is that we treat everyone
involved in the process as if they were our friend or family member going through the process.
We treat people with respect and with human dignity, whether it is someone accused of a
crime, or someone who has been a victim or witness to a crime. It could be a defense lawyer,
a judge, sheriff, or whatever the case may be. We treat everyone with respect, because that
process, people going through criminal involvement with the criminal legal system, is
perhaps one of the most difficult events in their lives. We want to recognize that, appreciate
that, and give that the value it deserves.
Councilmember Cowden: Thank you. I recognize the importance of the
whole team, including the clerks.
Mr. Kollar: Absolutely.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Evslin.
Councilmember Evslin: Thank you for your presentation. Regarding the
American Rescue Plan, at a quick glance, you are among the hardest hit of any County
department due to State budget cuts. You are especially hard hit because of State-mandated
positions, which they are then cutting funding for. Do you anticipate, with the American
Rescue Plan, not necessarily funding coming through the Federal Government to the County
for these positions, but with the State being able to refill their coffers and changing their
position to fund these positions going forward? Obviously, that is speculation.
Mr. Kollar: Hope springs eternal and we will see what
happens at the State level. They are going through their budget process and we have been
scrambling to deal with different situations happening over there. We were able to get the
Senate to put funding back for the Crime Victim Compensation Commission, something they
zeroed out in their initial proposal. I do not know if they are seeing things that are giving
them cause for optimism as well, but we are hopeful that as the State patches some of the
pukas that they will be able to restore some of the program funding that we depend on. We
have received funding under the Career Criminal Prosecution Program for decades, and
while it has been steadily decreasing over the years, this is the first time that it has been
zeroed out in its entirety. As you mentioned, we are required by State law to have a Career
Criminal Prosecuting Program and the State is required to administer funding for that
program, but they have chosen to not prioritize that funding so far in this session. We work
closely with our State representatives and we appreciate their support. We are very hopeful
that as the State's financial picture hopefully improves, in a sustained way,that that funding
will come back, because we really do need it.
Councilmember Evslin: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any other questions? Councilmember
Kuali`i.
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Councilmember Kuali`i: Following up on the question and discussion we
had earlier on the Wages and Hourly Pay item...for Position 2030, that is the position with
the $81,598 and there are two (2) other Special Investigator Positions 9111 and 9113 with
the same title, but with salaries of$28,579. Are those used for 89-day hires now?
Mr. Kollar: Those positions are currently filled by 89-day
hires. One works two (2) days a week and the other works three (3) days a week. They are
essentially splitting what used to be a full-time position. We came before the Council
probably seven (7) or eight (8) years ago to ask for that position to be split into two (2) half-
time positions and those two (2) incumbents are still in those positions. They are part-time
and are both retired KPD detectives who work for us as investigators.
Councilmember Kuali`i: For Position 2830, Investigator, that was covered
by the Crime Prevention Justice Division grant that ended in September?
Mr. Kollar: Yes.
Councilmember Kuali`i: From September until now, were you covering it
with funds transferred from somewhere else? Are you applying for this grant again?
Mr. Kollar: It is from the same pool of grant funds. What we
are asking for out of that pool of grant funds is described a little bit differently, just because
of the way the program changes over the years. It is the same pool of money.
Councilmember Kuali`i: So that is all coming from the Federal
Government to the State and from the State to us?
Mr. Kollar: Correct.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: We are very concerned here with overtime. I know
this is only for one position, but with the Hourly Wages account,who manages this employee's
overtime? Or is this employee contracted to work just forty (40) hours a week and there is
no overtime so they could earn a higher hourly wage per hour? Or do they have the ability
to collect overtime depending on the case load and investigation time needed?
Mr. Kollar: That particular employee falls under me and I am
the supervisor. Any overtime that happens in the office has to be authorized by me. As you
will notice in our operational highlights from FY 2021, we have reduced overtime
significantly over the years. While there may be occasional overtime required of that
employee or of other employees, we take every step to minimize that and we have reduced it
from prior fiscal years.
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Councilmember DeCosta: That you for being so cognizant of that situation.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any additional questions from the
Members? If not, thank you Justin.
Mr. Kollar: Thank you all.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: I would like to recess the Departmental Budget
Reviews. We will reconvene at 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday, April 6, 2021, where we will hear from
the Department of Finance, Office of Economic Development, and Planning Department.
There being no objections, the meeting recessed at 2:31 p.m.