HomeMy WebLinkAbout04/06/2021 Department of Finance, Office of Economic Development, and Planning Department Department of Finance
Honorable Bernard P. Carvalho, Jr.
Honorable Mason K. Chock
Honorable Felicia Cowden
Honorable Luke A. Evslin (via remote technology)
Honorable Bill DeCosta
Honorable KipuKai Kuali`i
Honorable Arryl Kaneshiro
The Committee reconvened on April 6, 2021 at 9:01 a.m., and proceeded as follows:
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Good morning, I would like to call to order the
Committee of the Whole and the Fiscal Year 2021-2022 Departmental Budget Reviews. Let
the record reflect that all Members are present. On the schedule for today, April 6, 2021, we
will be hearing from the Department of Finance, who will be taking us through their various
divisions, the Office of Economic Development, and the Planning Department. As we do each
morning, we will take public testimony at the beginning of the meeting.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended to take public testimony.
There being no one present to provide testimony, the meeting was called back to order,
and proceeded as follows:
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Clerk, we have no registered speakers and we
received no written testimony today. With that being said, I would like to call on the Director
of Finance Reiko Matsuyama. If you can provide a brief overview of your budget, and we will
go through each division separately.
REIKO MATSUYAMA, Director of Finance (via remote technology): Good
morning, Councilmembers. As a recap, the Department of Finance is made up of many of the
administrative functions. The administrative things that benefit the entire County. The
Purchasing Division fields all procurement issues. Accounting cuts the checks and puts
together the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report (CAFR). The Administrative Division
handles our insurance coverage and renewals. Informational Technology (IT) manages all
our software, hardware, and security issues related to the County's use of technology. Real
Property Tax is responsible for bringing in the County's primary revenue source. The Real
Property Assessment Division found a value increase for the ninth consecutive year. The
Real Property Collections Division was able to pivot operations to allow for two (2) deadline
extensions during the pandemic. In addition, we have one of the most public-facing County
functions, the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV). We are a very diverse department.
For Fiscal Year (FY) 2022, we are requesting a budget of nearly $13,700,000, which is
a 2% increase over FY 21. Salaries and benefits make up most of our cost, and it is
approximately 63% of our overall budget. The increase to salaries and benefits is primarily
due to a position transfer to our IT Division. This position will be assisting with the forward
progress system for our Holomua initiatives that you are already familiar with. This will
also alleviate some of the other pressures. Our IT staff is going to be dedicated the HRMS
implementation. A lot of their time will be focused on that when the time comes. To ensure
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things do not fall through the cracks, that position has been transferred to IT. Offsetting this
increase in salaries, we have short-funded one (1) position in the Accounting Division for
six- (6)months, and we have dollar-funded one(1)position the Real Property Tax Assessment
Division.
We continue to think strategically to utilize vacant positions for the greater good of
the entire Department of Finance. We try to actively recruit as soon as possible to fill
vacancies immediately. This has not worked out well because of the freezes, but we try to
engage the administration so that we are able to fill necessary positions.
Outside of salaries, wages, and benefits...insurance is the next biggest line item in
the budget. Unfortunately, it continues to increase. This year, we are requesting $240,000
or a 12% increase over FY 21. This was the suggestion directly from our insurance broker.
They are continuing to see the market move higher as insurance companies continue to
recover losses over the decade. They have sustained losses, they have not adjusted premiums
for a while, and now they are playing catch up. This increase takes into account a removal
of $360,000 related to the remediation of the soil at Resource Recovery Solutions. We
anticipate those funds will be encumbered this year FY 21, and no longer needed in FY 22.
The Department of Finance also manages the contract for the Kaua`i Humane
Society (KHS). We are pleased to report that KHS submitted a budget that includes a cost
reduction for FY 21. They are also embracing the "do more with less" and are consolidating
some of their vacant positions. They will go into detail later to talk about further efficiencies
that they are doing.
Our big request this year for FY 22 is within operations. We are requesting an
increase of$430,000 in operations, which is primarily for IT. Again, this does not specifically
benefit the Department of Finance, but rather the County as a whole as we begin to roll out
the Mayor's priorities of modernization and better use of technology. The increase is due to
the Countywide roll out of Microsoft Office 365 and the antivirus protection. Both are things
that are installed in each individual County computer.
Moving on to the highlights we went through this year. We made the most throughout
year with COVID-19. Obviously, it was a challenge, but it forced change within our
department. We expanded the use of Laserfiche, which is a software that automated many
of our paper processes. We also made changes to DMV to alleviate their workload. We
diverted all sewer payments to a lockbox at First Hawaiian Bank. This was previously done
one at a time. We set up the vehicle registration kiosk at Ishihara Market. We also launched
an online credit card portal for landfill payments. We are doing similar things with refuse
treatment payments, and we will find other ways to make the online portal useful. Another
highlight is the use of the queuing system in the DMV, I am not sure if you folks visited
recently. The rollout of Microsoft Office 365 and the use of Microsoft Teams. Both projects
were well in the works prior to the pandemic and we were hoping that these would be
gamechangers that would be major highlights coming out of our Department. Unfortunately,
they are probably viewed as more reactive through the pandemic. We have more features
that are not being used, and we hope to continue expanding the use of them as we move
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forward and emerge out of the pandemic. We are also happy to report that Driver's Licensing
is piloting the use of credit cards at the payment window. This is a "big thing" and it has
been in the works for almost two (2) years. We went live on April 1st. Right now, it is only at
the Driver's Licensing window. Once we get our "feet wet" and understand the processes
going forward, it will be expanded to Motor Vehicle Registration, Real Property Tax
Collections, and the Kaua`i Police Department (KPD). That is exciting news for us. Lastly,
later this week, we will be closing on a successful refinance. We are refinancing some of our
General Obligation Bonds that you already know about. It will save the County a little over
$2,100,000 over the next nine (9) years. Despite the pandemic, Moody's and Fitch both
confirmed our strong bond ratings and we can take advantage of favorable market conditions
to reduce financing costs on our outstanding debt obligation.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any questions? Councilmember Chock.
Councilmember Chock: Thank you, Reiko, I appreciate this. I was
wondering if you can share a little about the insurance broker process. Does the County have
one (1)broker that looks at all the insurance coverages from cyber, lifeguard, et cetera? Does
the County shop around with different companies? How does that work?
Ms. Matsuyama: Yes, that is how it works. We have one (1) broker
who has been with us for many years and understands the County, our needs, and where our
exposure is. As you mentioned, they do everything from the drones, cyber, property, and
general...they go out and "shop it." Our renewals are on November 1st every year.
Unfortunately, it has been a substantial increase every year. They find savings and they tell
us that we are in a better position than others; there are times we do not believe them.
However, I think that is the truth and our increases are not as high as Maui or Hawai`i
Island. We are in a better position than others, but every time we get slapped with that
increase, it is shocking.
Councilmember Chock: Thank you, I appreciate that.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: I have a few comments. First, I would like to say
that I think the Department of Finance has done an impressively great job and I realize
vacancies have been a consistent challenge since you have taken office. I honor the effort to
push through those positions when they are open. On page 3, "Utilities," it says "we are
reducing our telephone expense by $27,000." That seems like a lot, how did we do that?
Ms. Matsuyama: Our Accounting Division is handled differently.
Our Accounting Division pays for the phone bills for KEMA and others throughout the
County. Not everyone, but we handle some in Finance. If you are looking at the three-year
trend, we did not need that much money moving forward so we are reducing that budget.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay. It sounds like the phone cost moved to
different departments.
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Ms. Matsuyama: Not yet. We are actually still absorbing them. We
found ways to reduce them going forward.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay, great. At the bottom under "Operational
Challenges," you mentioned this in your overview, but I just want to acknowledge that these
initiatives started before COVID-19. It might be viewed as a reactive response to the
pandemic, but you have done a really good job regardless. Some of these needs are going to
continue, right? We are going to continue being able to do Microsoft Teams for meetings and
hopefully be able to bring people into the Council without physically having to bring them in.
That is good.
Ms. Matsuyama: Yes, absolutely.
Councilmember Cowden: I think it is going to help the productivity of the
entire County. I want to acknowledge that for this 2%increase,we are getting a lot in return.
It is going to be more efficient. Under"Staffing Challenges" on page 4, key retirements, that
is a problem across the County and you said "we made Band-Aid fixes to our operations and
in some cases, filling positions has proven difficult because of the restrictive Civil Service
system." I will not read the entire paragraph there. I thought you were making a very
important point about how it is difficult for the County to compete with the private sector. It
says we lose the competitive advantage with the private sector. Can you advise as to how
the Council might be able to help, because that affects our whole budget? Is it all in the
collective bargaining area?
Ms. Matsuyama: What we found is that the minimum
qualifications, or MQs as we call it, are too high for what the salaries are worth. It forces us
to attract people with higher experience, but obviously they get paid more in the private
sector. What we do in Finance is we usually downgrade the position. If someone retires or
someone leaves at a higher-level accounting position, we will downgrade that position to an
Accountant Trainee or an Accountant I position. We see what the market will bring us and
hopefully reallocate from within to account for that. What we lose with experience is that we
also lose the caliber of qualified candidates. We run into that problem frequently. As to what
the Council could do, I am not too sure. I think it is mostly a Civil Service, statewide issue.
Everything has to be uniform across the state. A Senior Clerk in our County has to match a
Senior Clerk in Maui, in Honolulu, and on the Big Island. It is a statewide Civil Service
system...we do not have control over that. It would be awesome if we could work together on
changes that would allow us to do what we need to do. That system is very outdated.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay. That seems like it needs an interagency
working group or something like that to fix it. It does downgrade the whole performance of
the County and I think it leaves us in a disadvantaged position in dealing with the number
of issues that I see out there. It might not be directly in the Department of Finance, but it is
certainly affecting our Real Property Assessment Division. In operational highlights, I
mostly want to say and acknowledge again that you do a great job. I think we are moving
forward in a really important way. When will the Foodland Princeville kiosk go in for motor
vehicle registrations? I think that is something that people are anxiously waiting for.
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Ms. Matsuyama: We are also anxiously waiting for it. Apparently,
there have been management changes at Foodland that have delayed this. I do not want to
overpromise. The last I heard was that the actual kiosk has been built. It is actually sitting
in a warehouse on O`ahu and they are waiting for it to ship to Kaua`i. They have the location
and where it is going to fit, but they need to work on the wiring. I do not want to overpromise,
but I will say that everyone should stay tuned.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay. As you know we have all kinds of
challenges in our area. I live on the North Shore and people are anxious to have less reason
to have to drive all the way to Lihu`e when sometimes it takes an hour to get from Ha`ena to
Princeville. That would be a two-hour roundtrip. Those are my comments on your overview.
Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: I have a couple of questions, but I will wait until
we get into the Accounting Division. With Real Property Assessment bringing in most of our
revenue, it appears that we are dollar-funding a position there. Can you tell me about that
position? Is it one less position out in the field looking at RPT issues such as tax claims,
agricultural dedication, TVRs, et cetera? Is that where that dollar-funded position will not
play a role in?
Ms. Matsuyama: That dollar-funded position is a TA or temporary
assignment. We are doing this in order to compensate her fairly. As of June 1st, she will
qualify for the higher position that she is temporarily assigned to. That is one of the things
that Councilmember Cowden was talking about. We are being creative in how to circumvent
the system. We see her performing the work of the position and she deserves the higher
salary. She just does not qualify according to the standards. On June 1st, she will qualify
and vacate the lower position. If I am being honest, I am going to try and fill that vacant
position as soon as humanly possible, even though it is dollar-funded. I am going to try to
find funds elsewhere to fill that position.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you for that piece of constructive
information. We have been hearing a lot of good things about your Department and about
the people that work hard in your Department. It would be a "no-brainer" for us to keep
those kinds of employees. Thank you very much. I am going to make sure to reiterate that
we need to take care of all of our County employees, especially the ones that work extra hard
for our County. Thank you very much.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Carvalho.
Councilmember Carvalho: Regarding the real property tax ordinance
changes, I know moving forward, the creative revenue enhancement, are we working on
creating an outreach plan for that? Where are you with that outreach plan?
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Ms. Matsuyama: That is correct. We are doing outreach with the
Kauai Board of Realtors. We are trying to create a forum and do outreach through E-mail
and other methods to reach those people that are now impacted by the Residential Investor
reduction.
Councilmember Carvalho: I think that doing that is a great part of moving
forward. I look forward to seeing more of that.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any other questions on the budget
synopsis? If not, we will move into the budget details and start with the Administration. For
Dues and Subscriptions, $22,000, can you explain what that is?
Ms. Matsuyama: Yes, that is our grant management software.
Actually, it is not new, but it is new to the Administration. We transferred it from our
Accounting Division. The Grants Manager who retired last year, she was previously in our
Accounting Division. We moved the position to Administration so that we could have some
redundancy between that and budget. We moved some of the costs associated with that grant
position to Administration.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Thank you. Do you want to touch on the Kauai
Humane Society, or go over it later? I know there is a presentation.
Ms. Matsuyama: I will be here.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Okay, we will get a rundown on that later as far
as their cost savings and how they plan to regroup. Council Vice Chair Chock.
Councilmember Chock: Reiko, for the lifeguard liability, are we the only
County that funds that? Have all the counties taken that on?
Ms. Matsuyama: Yes, I think so.
Councilmember Chock: Okay.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: I am acknowledging that the travel budget has
gone down to close to nothing, is that correct?
Ms. Matsuyama: Yes.
Councilmember Cowden: I think we are seeing this across the budget, for
the viewers and people who are listening. That does not necessarily mean that COVID-19
will be a factor for another solid year. I hope it is not. I hope we are getting out of it, but we
are being proactive and learned how to use remote technology and we are being conservative.
Would I be interpreting that correctly?
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Ms. Matsuyama: Yes, I think so. Many of the conferences that we
are used to going to, they have gone virtual. We are still participating virtually with some of
our conferences that we normally would have attended. It does save on travel costs, but we
are still paying for virtual conferences.
Councilmember Cowden: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any other questions for Administration?
If not, we will move on to Accounting. Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: I noticed that our Regular Overtime dropped
significantly from FY 2018-2019 and stayed consistent through FY 2020. It is down to
$13,722. Can you explain the reason for that? What is your method for bringing down
overtime by that much?
Ms. Matsuyama: The overtime is related to the production of the
CAFR that is required to be put together annually by the County. Our Accounting Division
spearheads that entire process and it usually happens between-August and December. There
are really strict deadlines that come into play when you are talking to our external auditors.
There are deadlines when it comes to the Government Finance Officers Association (GFOA)
and those other organizations that give awards for putting together an on-time and quality
CAFR. As for the overtime question, I was not here in FY 2018-2019, but there were
significant issues in our Treasury Division. We had issues with closings, bank
reconciliations, and basically our Treasury Division was not functioning as it should have. It
translated into the Accounting Division having to do a lot of the work for them in closing and
the back-end process. In FY 2020, we really cleaned up the Treasury Division so that we
could close more timely. It was not perfect, but it is way better in terms of our timeliness and
getting things done. We were able to reduce that overtime significantly in FY 2020.
Councilmember DeCosta: I am very impressed. You are telling me that
COVID-19 had nothing to do with reducing overtime. We heard that when COVID-19 came
in, we were working remotely from home and had a lot of projects on-hand. Overtime went
down and this is not a reduction in overtime because of COVID-19. This is a reduction in
overtime because you did a fantastic job. Am I correct?
Ms. Matsuyama: It was not due to COVID-19.
Councilmember DeCosta: There is an indirect cost of a negative $2,680,000.
Can you explain what these indirect costs are?
Ms. Matsuyama: Like I mentioned earlier, we are the
administrators for a lot of people. Purchasing, IT, Accounting, et cetera, they do a lot of work
not just for the General Fund, but for the Solid Waste Fund, Golf Fund, et cetera. We do
everything across-the-board. This is a reimbursement to the General Fund for work done for
the other funds and for the work that the Accounting Division primarily does to support those
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other funds. It is not just for the Accounting Division, but for the entire Department of
Finance. This is an estimate that is produced by an actuary. We do a study each year for
what those costs should be for our time that we spend on other funds. That is a
reimbursement to the General Fund from the other funds. The -$2,600,000 is for our work.
This helps to keep things solely within the funds. The revenues brought in by the other funds
such as Solid Waste, Wastewater, et cetera will remain in their fund and are not used for
other things.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you so much for that clarification. Thank
you for the great job that you are all doing.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: I have one that I am sure there is a good
explanation for and understanding that the Treasury Division was refilled. For Other Post
Employment Benefits (OPEB), in 2018, we had a negative number. That was probably
something related to Finance covering for someone else like you just discussed. It went from
-$673,000 to now $122,000 in the positive direction. What does that OPEB amount represent
where we see that big shift over four (4) years.
Ms. Matsuyama: I will have to get back to you on the reason why it
fluctuated so much. It is not specific to the Accounting Division. This line item holds the
OPEB for other County departments as well. I will have to get back to you.
Councilmember Cowden: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: On page 40, Position No. 253, Accountant IV, the
Vacancy Report as of March 15th says that the interview is pending. That position was vacant
since the end of last year. Where are you with the hiring of that position?
Ms. Matsuyama: We are actually conducting interviews now. We
have our last one tomorrow. It is going to be filled at an Accountant I level instead of an
Accountant IV. That will be reflected in the May submittal. We are hoping to hire soon.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Within a couple of weeks?
Ms. Matsuyama: The position is open and we want to fill it as soon
as possible.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Okay, thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any other questions for the Accounting
Division? If not we will move on. Are there any questions for IT? Reiko explained that the
variance in IT is due to the other programs that were added. Councilmember Cowden.
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Councilmember Cowden: I just have a comment. It looks good. You held
the budget well. Knowing what is happening in your Division, it feels weird not to have a
question. We have been talking to you and you have been coming before us, with your IT
progress. Thank you very much for the work that you have been doing. We recognize what
a significant difference it has made for all of us. Not having questions does not mean you are
not very significant. IT is one of the biggest changes in our County happening right now and
it looks good for budgeting purposes.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: If there are no questions for IT, we will move on to
the Treasury Division. The budget is flat. It actually went down a little. Are there any
questions for Treasury? If not, we will move on to Driver's License. The budget is also flat.
Are there any questions for Driver's License? Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: I am just going to comment on this one as well.
When you answer the OPEB question for the Accounting Division, I see we have a similar
fluctuation in this item as well. The answer may be similar in nature, but if you could include
that in your analysis as well, that would be great.
Ms. Matsuyama: Will do.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Next up we have Motor Vehicles. Are there any
questions? Their budget is flat as well. If not, we can move to Real Property Assessment.
Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: On master page 61, Position No. 254, this one was
vacant from the end of February. What is the recruitment status?
Ms. Matsuyama: That is our Real Property Tax Manager. We
posted and it has closed. We have the list and are going to be interviewing later this month
for that position.
Councilmember Kuali`i: For Position No. 274, that was vacant for quite a
while since October 1, 2019. The Vacancy Report states that it has been continuously
recruited and that there are no eligible applicants or in-house candidates and that the
reallocation is pending. Is this the one you were talking about earlier?
Ms. Matsuyama: No. It is a different position. It looks like this one
was vacant for a long time, but we actually had an 89-day hire in there and we brought
someone back with abstracting experience. That has been filled for a while with an 89-day
hire. He has since left and it is now vacant. We are going to reallocate that position on
April 16 and again someone internal will qualify. We are going to reallocate one of our Clerk
positions to the abstracting function so that we have two (2) in that critical role.
Councilmember Kuali`i: The last one is on the bottom of page 105. Real
Property Compliance Specialist I. The eligible list is pending and applications are being
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reviewed. That was in the March Vacancy Report. Are you about to interview? Where are
you with that one?
Ms. Matsuyama: Yes. We are interviewing for that position next
week. We have a lot of candidates for this position. Again, we feel strongly that this position
will pay for itself very quickly in doing compliance work to check on the things that
Councilmember DeCosta was talking about earlier, including vacation rentals, agricultural
dedications, et cetera, to ensure that people are being fairly taxed at what they are taxed at.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Carvalho.
Councilmember Carvalho: For Consultant Services for $30,000, you
mentioned Special Projects, can you give us an update on that?
Ms. Matsuyama: We have a new line item in here this year for
$15,000. We recently lost our Real Property Tax Manager and he did a lot of analytical,
strategy, and policy work on spreadsheets. He used to go through the software and identify
trends. By losing him, we lost a lot of that skillset in Real Property Assessment. We wanted
to try and see if we could go out and get someone on a consulting contract to pull some of that
data and analyze that for us.
Councilmember Carvalho: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: I only recently learned that our Real Property Tax
Manager has left the County. I am so sorry to hear that because I enjoyed working with him
and also the person right below him. It is a tremendous loss. That is why I asked about what
we could do to help. When we are seeing some of these senior people leave, it is a big loss.
He was compassionate and it made a big difference in working with him as a Councilmember
to wrap my head around real property taxes. That impacts our citizens and it impacts
people's abilities to keep their homes. I appreciate the effort that he, the person below him,
and you make in trying to construct appropriate policy, which is very difficult to do. We have
to be equal across-the-board on everything for the whole year. I wish him the best of luck
and I wish you the best of luck in creating that program and perhaps the consultant can help
the person just below him. He also does a very good job. That position is a big part of the
heart and soul of the revenue generation for the County, and a big piece of the people who
are able to stay living here. That is not a small position and it is very critical to running our
whole County. Thank you. Thank you to Councilmember Carvalho for targeting that
question and giving me that opening. I was very sad to hear that he is gone. Thank you
again.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember DeCosta.
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Councilmember DeCosta: This is more of a discussion point. The person that
you and Councilmember Kuali`i were just talking about, the one you are bringing in to assess
properties for compliance...I strongly believe that this is a key position and that they are
trained with knowledge. I do not want them to take anything for granted, because the
agricultural dedication program has been in effect for years now. We turn our heads to it,
but we need that revenue. It provides food security for our island and Transient Vacation
Rentals (TVRs) take away rentals needed for our people struggling to get rental units. Home
prices are escalating, because people can buy homes, turn it around, and TVR it. It takes
away from the local person that wants to spend$500,000 to $700,000 versus a home that sold
for $1,500,000 and now they can rent it out. I am really excited to see that we will have
another person on our team to make sure that people are held accountable for their taxes
that they owe to the County. Whether they own a home or whether they own several
thousand acres in agriculture, we have to hold everyone accountable.
Ms. Matsuyama: The other jurisdictions throughout the state have
compliance divisions within real property. We are starting with one position to do
compliance, so I think it is a step in the right direction. It is not going to get us there entirely.
What our Real Property Assessment Division does is kind of like being tax consultants. We
are the ones that people call to figure out how to get the most exemptions or how to apply for
certain tax relief programs. That is what we really spend a lot of our time on. In reality, the
top priorities of Real Property Assessment have to be in the accuracy of the valuations and
in adding to the tax base. We are the ones that are generating the revenue for the County.
While we are committed to doing the hand-holding to try to help people reduce their tax
burden, that cannot be the primary focus of Real Property Assessment. We need to make
sure our valuations are accurate and that we can defend them. We also need to be able to
capture and add new improvements to find new sources of revenue. That is what we intend
to do.
Councilmember DeCosta: If we can help you in any way, whether it is to
create another position to make things easier or to draw revenue for our County, let us know.
Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any further questions for Real Property
Assessment? If not we will move on to Real Property Tax Collections. Are there any
questions? If not, we will move on to Purchasing. Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: I noticed that for Postage and Freight, we have
budgeted $80,000. Why do we need that amount?
Ms. Matsuyama: Actually, the Purchasing Division probably uses
$0 of that $80,000. The Purchasing Division is responsible for all of the mail in the County
and that is the central mail hub. You bring your mail there and you deliver your mail through
the Purchasing Division. That is not just related to the Department of Finance, but the
amount of postage we spend for the entire County.
Councilmember DeCosta: Wow. Thank you, Reiko.
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Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any other questions for Purchasing? If
not, we will move on to the Kaua`i Humane Society. The Kauai Humane Society contract is
in the Finance-Administration area on page 36.
Ms. Matsuyama: Committee Chair Kaneshiro, do you want us to
share the screen or are you going to share your screen?
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Please share your screen.
Ms. Matsuyama: Okay.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: We see it.
Ms. Matsuyama: I will turn it over to Dan Giovanni, the Kaua`i
Humane Society Board Chair and Nicole Schaefer, the Kaua`i Humane Society Executive
Director. Also on the line is Alicia Iverson, the Kaua`i Humane Society Board Treasurer.
DAN GIOVANNI, Board Chair, Kaua`i Humane Society (via remote technology):
Thank you, Reiko. I just wanted to make a couple of introductory comments representing
the Board. We have had a long association with the County, but I think things are really on
a good track working with the Department of Finance over the last eighteen(18) months. We
have really taken a deep-dive into our costs of operations and we have done that with 100%
transparency working with Reiko and her team. As a result, we all have a much better
understanding of our true costs of operations. That has enabled us to take a closer look and
to search for efficiencies within our operations. You will see some of the results of that. We
are able to do a full service for the County and do it for less money than we thought we needed
when we looked at it a couple of years ago. Next slide, please.
This is an overview of our business at the Kaua`i Humane Society. It is really a
diversified business. You can see that the work that we perform for the County represents
about 26% or about a fourth of everything that we do from a cost perspective. We are also
the fiscal sponsor of the Save Our Shearwaters Program,which is a native bird program. We
also have a retail operation called Blooming Tails. We have medical services and work to
fundraise for adoptions and transfers. Our foster program at the Kaua`i Humane Society
includes a lot of activities including direct release and transfers to the mainland for our
animals. There is also a category called General and Administrative (G&A). The way we
structure our costs for the County is as a reimbursable cost with no profit for us for County
operations. A percentage goes for G&A and that portion is apportioned to the County of
Kaua`i. As I said, all of this is broken down based on actuals and looking forward. We work
out the details of what services we can provide for the County and then we look to be
reimbursed for those on a nonprofit basis. Next slide, please.
In general, that is the way we view the program, in three (3) parts. We are able to
provide all parts in full service with the animal care and welfare being the largest. I am
going to turn this over to our Executive Director Nicole Schaefer to provide a lot more detail.
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Animal care and welfare represents the majority of the work that we do. The investigations
and enforcement are very important and we do that in cooperation primarily with the Kaua`i
Police Department (KPD) and Kauai Fire Department (KFD). Then we have licensing
service that we do and as you all know, we are looking to move from licenses to microchips.
So, Nicole, I will turn this over to you, but I will stay engaged and will be available to answer
any questions that Councilmembers may have. Thank you.
NICOLE SCHAEFER, Executive Director, Kaua`i Humane Society (via remote
technology): Good morning everyone. Though we have these
items, there is some crossover. Animal care and welfare, that is housing the animals that
come in. For dogs, it is any dog that we find no matter what its health is. For cats, we do not
currently take in healthy cats. We will take in sick, injured, endangered, or distressed cats.
Animal care animals are fed twice a day and cleaned throughout the day. They get their
health checks and that could include vaccinations, not just at intake, but also a couple of
weeks in, they will need their boosters. Of course, this also includes exercise and enrichment.
We do a lot of reunification of pets and owners through microchips, social media, and other
avenues that we can take into the field as well. For veterinary attention, we very frequently
have animals that come in injured. These are animals typically hit by cars that may require
amputation. We have a cat population that we see with eye issues so we do enucleation,
which is the removal of the eye and we offer euthanasia for sick and injured animals beyond
care and for owners whose animals come to end of life. We offer cremation services and pick
up of remains of dogs on the roads.
Moving into investigations and enforcement...if KPD or KFD needs our help confining
an animal, we bring in those animals. There are collections that go to owners for reclaiming,
as well as issuing citations. For licensing, we sell cat and dog licenses and every quarter we
report back to the County to include animal information such as their license number and
owner information. The County gets a full spreadsheet every quarter of new licenses sold.
Next slide, please.
To let you know where we are currently at with the services that we are offering you,
our humane officers respond to about 1,500 calls per quarter. That comes to around 6,000
calls a year. Of these calls, about 150 cases are resolved, so that discrepancy is because a lot
of times, these calls resolve themselves in the call. The case does not necessarily need to be
created. It could be someone having an issue with a neighbor and we mediate, bring in a
stray, and we do not have to go out and pick it up, because they bring it to us. That is a little
of what some of those discrepancies are. We have resources on our website to direct people
for the Barking Dog Ordinance, and for feral cats. Our shelter intake is about 500-700
animals per quarter. That is around 2,000 animals per year. We are really excited that we
have 182 active foster families right now and that number usually fluctuates during kitten
season and then it slows down during the holidays. For 2021, we are able to announce
ourselves as a "no-kill shelter" for dogs, cats, and the shelter as a whole in December. In
November, we were 0.1% off for cats and then for January, February, and March, as you can
see, we have been really doing exceptionally well at 97% and higher. We do not see a reason
that is going to be altered. We are pretty optimistic that we are going to be able to maintain
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our no-kill status. The no-kill status means that the chance of an animal coming into the
shelter and leaving is high, above 90%. Next slide, please.
As you are all aware, we are looking at switching the licensing to lifetime microchips.
That is something that we have thought of when we put this budget together. If the Bill does
not pass, we can still do licensing with the budget we are asking for, but we are hoping to
switch from licenses to microchipping with the funding for the proposed fiscal year.
Here is our proposal. We were requested to do a negative 3% adjustment from the
previous fiscal year giving us a target point of$1,003,000. We reviewed this and were able
to meet the request. Our animal care and welfare came to $822,000. This is for food for our
animals, medical supplies, cleaning, as well as staff. Investigations and enforcement is
$152,000. This is for officer vehicles and all that goes with it. This includes maintenance
and insurance, staff, and of course training for our officers. For licensing, that came out to
$29,000 for a total of$1,003,000, as requested. This slide breaks it down a little more into
the expenses for non-labor. Those are the supplies, training, and general and administrative
costs. That gives us that full subtotal.
How are we able to reduce our budgets and meet the target? We are doing a couple
things different with our managing intake. Our new intake and outcome goals are based on
reducing the length of stays. Last Fiscal Year we had about fifty (50) days, sometimes even
longer, we had animals spending up to seven (7) months at the shelter, and right now we are
hoping to get animals down to less than thirty (30) days. Ultimately, our goal is two (2)
weeks, but we are realistic that not everyone is going to be gone for two (2) weeks, so we are
going with at least a month, we can hopefully move the animal out of the shelter, into a
positive outcome. We also want to decrease the population in the shelter, so last Fiscal Year
we were looking at around four hundred (400) to six hundred (600) animals in the shelter at
once—that is too much for us, so our goal is to aim closer to one hundred fifty (150) to two
hundred(200) animals, and that is in-shelter. That number is going to fluctuate with fosters;
we are entering kitten season with a lot of neonates, so that is going to make that number
rise, but those are animals that we can get into to foster that will not be specifically at the
shelter. So there will be some fluctuation during times of the year, but that is our ultimate
goal, and so far we have been able to keep that for this year. It sounds like a huge change,
but with our new intake measures it is quite a bit more realistic. So when an animal comes
in, instead of it going in to a cage to sit, it comes in and it automatically get a plan on how it
is going to leave, and that is how we are able to change these numbers—is to already give it
a pathway to exit, decreasing that length of stay. We have decided to reduce staff from ten
(10) animal care techs, so the staff that works in the kennels specifically, down to eight (8).
Once again, we can do this because we are decreasing the amount of animals in our shelter
and we are decreasing the length of time they spend with us, they do not require the same
amount of staff to care for them. Also, we would look at reducing our number of humane
officers. Currently, in our budget we have three (3) officers in the field and an in-house
officer/dispatcher. So what we are proposing is to take the in-house officer/dispatcher and
make them more of an active in-field officer, so they will be able to rotate a little bit, as well
as handling all of their calls that come in. Our front desk has upgraded assistance, as well.
We are going to emphasize our medical operations; by increasing our medical operations it
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actually helps our animals not only in the shelter, but before they come into the shelter. If
we are able to do more with community vaccinations, community spay and neuters, we are
going to decrease population coming in because we are not going to get litters, but we are also
going to get healthy animals coming in if we find them as a stray, or if they need to be
surrendered to us. Then while in the shelter, we can increase the care that we are able to
provide for them, offer them more services that will make them more adoptable or
transferrable, as well. By increasing our medical focus, we will be assisting the animals and
be able to move them out a little bit quicker. Once again, by switching from licensing to
microchipping, costs will go down as we continue to work together. COVID-19 gave us a
really good opportunity to grow our relationship with the community, so we have been able
to increase our fosters, but it also gave us an opportunity to take time to reach out to more
transfer partners, and we have been able to grow that number so we can do more. Flights
were a huge limiting factor for us during COVID-19 to get animals out. With the flights
slowly starting to open up again, we are able to get animals moving more steadily and our
rescue partners have been really patient with us and understanding, so we are already
getting out more than we were in the last few months. Then, our maintenance—we are an
older building—so what we have been trying to do is, if something happens we are very well
aware of our incinerator issue that put a pause in our cremations—we are trying to resolve
these issues as quickly as they occur, so they do not build on each other, so this could be
minor maintenance things, but there are also larger ones. Next slide, please.
These are the partially-funded positions that are included in the budget. Everything
is pretty much the same and I informed you that Humane Officers have gone down from
four (4) to three (3), the Animal Care Tech has gone from ten (10) to eight (8), then the
addition that we added was the Director of Medical Operations, because once again, we need
to increase our medical department in order to help our animals, then our Vet Tech has gone
from four (4) to five (5), but that was more of a joining, because we had two (2)Vet Assistants
who were part-time, so we just made it a Vet Tech who would be a full-time now, so that gives
us a staff total of thirty-four (34).
Mr. Giovanni: I failed to mention that we were actually
operating seven (7) days a week, maybe you can explain that.
Ms. Schaefer: Yes, we are operating seven (7) days a week.
Monday through Sunday from 10:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Our hours are the same on each of
those days and our Officers are also working after-hours for emergency calls, as well as our
Veterinarians. As I have said, we are getting animals that are hit by cars and that is usually
happening at night, so our Officers are responding to that, then we have to make contact with
our Veterinarians to ensure that we are putting them immediately on pain management as
well, so they do not suffer until we can get their surgery done. Next slide, please.
We just want to say, "Thank you." We have been working together for over twenty (20)
years and we look forward to this coming year as well. Does anyone have any questions?
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Thank you for that presentation. This was
extremely refreshing compared to all of the past presentations I have seen from Kaua`i
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Humane Society. Usually in the past, especially like last year, they were asking for more
money and providing less services, then this year it is a complete "180," you folks are asking
for less money and doing more, so it is very refreshing to me. I do not have any questions.
Are there any questions from the Members? Councilmember Carvalho.
Councilmember Carvalho: I would like to just follow up on Council Chair's
comments that having worked with the Kaua`i Humane Society, and just to hear the whole
overall program and how everything is in place, doing more with less, and trying to really
address our issues islandwide, and I think that is a great thing. I just wanted to make my
own comments so great job. No questions. The presentation says it all, for me.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: On page 4, the bottom, your second slide,
number 5, your expanded foster and transfer program; can you say a little more about that.
Is it something that has already been done or something you are working to expand further,
and what is the transfer program?
Ms. Schaefer: Yes, so it is a never ending program that always
requires more. The transfer program is where we take animals that are currently in our
shelter and we send them on a flight to the mainland where they join another rescue
organization that is able to potentially have a larger pool of people who would be interested
in adopting, so it is one shelter to another shelter. Sometimes it comes at a cost to us, and
then sometimes we are refunded for the transfer—it is dependent on the partner and the
situation of the animal, as well. We are always trying to find more partners, because that
means we can move more animals, especially those that require special needs. For instance,
we have a dog named Nori, that requires a specialist to do surgery on both legs and it is a
$4,000 surgery, so it is something that is quite a bit beyond our budget, but we have transfer
partners that have that funding or have that kind of Veterinarian and Specialist that is a lot
more accessible. So those are the sort of circumstances that make these partnerships really
important—that is the transfer program. The foster program is on-island, so it is when
people open up their homes temporarily to help care for an animal. It could be a neonate
coming in, an animal that needs to be bottle fed. It could be an animal that is recovering;
currently I am fostering a cat that we had its leg and tail amputated, until it is well enough
to be adopted, or it could be an animal that has maybe some behavioral issues, and some time
in a home will allow it to open up, and we can get a better assessment of its personality to
matchmake it into a good home—so it is temporary housing and it comes at no cost to the
community member—we cover all the supplies, whether it is food or medicine, then we act
as a resource and'we have actually started a foster hotline, so if something happens after-
hours, or if they have concerns, they can reach our foster base to get help immediately. That
is on-island and it comes at no cost. What we are getting is someone's time, so we want to
make that as easy as it can be since they are giving us so much.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Along the lines of time, is there a minimum
amount of time a person would need to commit to or it depends on the status of the animal?
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Ms. Schaefer: Yes, it depends more on the animal and on them.
We have had people who have taken an animal for months, because they were an older animal
and they were not considered to be very "adoptable"—an unfortunate term—and the people
were open to doing that. We have some who let us know, "I have two (2) weeks, then I am
going on vacation, what can I do for you?" "That is great, why do you not take this
six-week-old kitten that needs two (2) weeks until we can do surgery for and get it on the
adoption floor." So we really try to work around their schedules and what their needs are. If
they are allergic to cats, we are not going to give them a cat, we can give them a dog. So we
try to work together as much as possible and make those partnerships work.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Thank you for the work you folks do.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: I want to reiterate the thank you from
Councilmember Kuali`i. Nicole and Dan, thank you so much. Great presentation, but even
greater comradery that you bring to the County. I am very impressed in how willing Nicole
and Dan were to create a relationship with the hunters. The hunters are very excited that
you folks went out of your way to make this microchipping available for free and it sets a
good precedent. The seven (7) days a week is such a refreshing thing. I know for a fact on
Saturdays, Sundays, and Mondays are actual hunting days in certain areas and sometimes
the center was closed on Sunday or Monday and people have lost their dog and do not know
where to put them. Tourists will pick them up and do not know where to drop them off, so
thank you for making the shelter available seven (7) days a week.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden, then Councilmember
Evslin.
Councilmember Cowden: You are going to get a lot of congratulations out of
me, too. I want congratulate Kaua`i Humane Society on their hard-earned"no-kill" status. I
worked really hard with the community of animal lovers who are deeply impacted by their
fear of the Humane Ssociety. We are so delighted to have you, Nicole, to be our Executive
Director and hopefully have a long career here. I also want to acknowledge Mirah Horwitz,
who made a very big difference. What the no-kill status provides is that it makes KHS a
positive partner to the animal lovers in the community. I think what we will see in the future
is that it will be easier for donors in the community to get involved. I have been aware of
many protests at donor events and community stress. Part of that is the impacts of not
having the Kaua`i Humane Society manage the predatory feral cats. These are the ones that
cannot be tamed. We have talked to the different parts of the financing and what we learned
is when those cats come to the Kaua`i Humane Society, and we are telling the viewers who
might be concerned about all of this, those cats have to stay there for forty-eight (48) hours
and that might displace very adoptable pets. I am happy that KHS is a place where people
who need services for their cats can go and feel very comfortable to come into a safe place.
You are also doing a very good job with the hunters. I am thrilled at where we have come to.
You came to a lower budgeted amount and will have better outcomes for the animals and the
community. I think we are going to see us start moving in a stronger direction with higher
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donors. I look forward to KHS' model for the rest of the country. Thank you. Those are my
comments. My appreciation to you, Dan, and everyone at KHS.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Evslin.
Councilmember Evslin: Just to echo that a little bit, thank you Dan and
Nicole for all of the work that you do. I have long been a strong supporter and have adopted
all of my animals from KHS, except for those I found wandering. It is good to see you folks
decreasing your budget and increasing services. As Committee Chair Kaneshiro said, we all
need to do more with less. I especially like the seven day per week policy and I have found
countless animals on a Sunday and had to keep them at my house until I could bring them
in. If you could speak to your internal policy shifts building off of what Councilmember
Cowden was saying leading to your no-kill status and challenges around feral cats. Can you
discuss some of that?
Ms. Schaefer: Yes. We have changed our adoption program.
Previously, we had some hurdles in place requiring certain things to be checked off. Our
decision to make our adoption process a little bit more of a conversation and educational
aspect, instead of a contract, has increased our adoptions, as well as shown our adopters that
we are a resource for them. Our adoptions have increased. We are also communicating better
with our community on how to continue caring for their animals. If finances are an issue or
if they are worried about vaccinations, a lot of people were unaware that we offer low-cost
vaccination clinics. That has been a really good educational resource and we can schedule
people at the time of their adoption for when their next one is due. When people adopt from
us,their animal is already spayed or neutered. They were unaware that we also offer low-cost
spay/neuter clinics for their other animals as well. We are doing more and getting a fuller
picture of our animal population and doing many more check-ins. We changed our dewormer
protocols, because hookworks are so bad on the island. By doing that, as well as lots of
check-ins to make sure that animals are fed properly,we have really increased our connection
with the community. We are not taking in feral cats at this time, because we do not have an
option for them. At the same time, we get animals that come in that are in distress and that
are not showing very adoptable behavior. As an example, yesterday, we had a litter of three
(3) kittens come in that were two (2) days old. They came in with their mom. Their mom is
not adoptable and her pregnancy hormones did not kick in. We have to keep them together
because those kittens are most vulnerable without their mom. So by pulling their mom, she
has no interest in being part of a family. The transfer partners will have a location where
she can thrive better in and in developing our program, we are trying to ensure that we have
positive outcomes. Yes, the mom is not meeting our criteria, but at the same time she is in
distress and so are her young. So we look at the bigger picture when we are handling these
types of situations. Those are some ways our protocols have changed.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: When you said you are not taking in feral cats,
what is the difference between a feral cat and a stray cat?
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Ms. Schaefer: That is a really great question and it comes down
to behavior. Right now, we do not take in healthy cats. That does not make a difference
between stray or feral. We do not pick them up. If someone brings them to us, which tends
to be cats that they have been feeding, they are more or less a colony caretaker or it is their
cat and they are moving or something changed with their finances. We have to demonstrate
that the animal can be touched in some manner. It does not have to snuggle or love us, but
there has to be some kind of connection. Cats that are adoptable give off vocalization. A feral
cat does not"meow" and has no interest in interacting with a person. We look for those types
of behaviors. Since a feral cat declines in a shelter environment, it is inhumane to house a
feral cat. They are in stress and it causes a decline that will probably cause a reason for
euthanasia. As the KHS, we cannot take in a feral cat, because we could actually be
hindering the welfare of that animal and we do not want to put a cat in that situation.
Mr. Giovanni: Nicole, can you speak a little bit about what you
have done to the adoption fee schedule and how it has helped us with donations?
Ms. Schaefer: We have decreased all of our adoption fees on
adult and senior animals. Our adult dogs and cats are $50 and seniors are $25. The reason
we dropped these is that we want to promote our animals. For the most part, we get animals
that are adults ages six (6) months to three (3) years on average. In order to get the animals
out quicker, especially our senior animals, we dropped the fee down to $25. We do not want
people not to pay us for an adoption fee. We understand older animals probably come with
more medical issues. They are going to require more veterinarian visits. We would rather
they spend that money on that instead of on adoption fees. We want them to ensure the
eatinga good diet, andgettinginsulin or whatever
animal is going to the veterinarian,
medical needs the pet might need. That is why we dropped our price range for those age
groups. It was done to promote getting them out and to promote people spending money on
the animal and not on us.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Evslin.
Councilmember Evslin: In the past, I have had feral cats decimate a
number of my chickens. If I brought in an aggressive feral cat now, what would you do?
What is the owner supposed to do?
Ms. Schaefer: If we deem an animal unfit to be brought into the
shelter we usually discuss this with the person to figure out what the situation is with the
cat and the owner. It could be a variety of things. If it is just about not wanting a cat in their
yard, there is probably a reason they are staying and not just passing through. It might be
eating your dog's food if you feed your dog outside. If you have an open sandbox, it might
think that is a litter box. We go over identifying what is drawing the cat in as well as humane
ways to deter the cat from coming back. We have several options for that. They can always
call us back to discuss further if something is not working and we can talk to you about other
options to assist you. To bring an animal here just to decline it, that is not an option for us
here based on our philosophy. To a certain degree, they are in our environment and we have
to get along. You might find the cat very annoying, but maybe it is actually your neighbor's
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pet. We definitely do not want to steal someone's cat. If you want it out of your yard, we
need to identify what it is doing there and get rid of the source to get rid of the cat.
Councilmember Evslin: Thank you. I hear a lot of what you are saying as
far as not wanting to take my neighbor's cat. I actually have some cats that I would feed
outside of my door. It started with two (2) cats, then all of a sudden, all the neighborhood
cats would hang out at our house. I quickly learned my lesson there. My example was
regarding the killing of my chickens. My long-term concern is that based on a study from
U.S. Fish and Wildlife, feral cats are the number one (1) threat to wildlife and we need a
long-term solution for what some would call the endangered bird capitol of the world, in
trying to manage the feral cats. I am not saying that the answer is to bring them in, but
there needs to be some long-term solution. I know we do not have that answer today. If you
could speak a little bit to what a long-term answer could potentially look like and what steps
we could help with to help solve this problem.
Mr. Giovanni: We recognize that there is no magic answer today
for the situation on Kaua`i. In large part, as you say, we have an abundance of ferals that
are pretty aggressive. We have a native bird population that is sacred to us. One of the
things KHS is doing is reaching out to other animal associations that are active on the island,
associated with both cats and bird populations. We are trying to get some common dialogue
so that we can come up with common solutions. My dream is to bring you a solution that
both the bird and cat people agree with. It does not look like we are quite there, but we are
trying to facilitate that. We feel that is the role that we play, almost like being a neutral
facilitator with these organizations that have very strong perspectives. Nicole, did you want
to add anything to that?
Ms. Schaefer: As Dan mentioned, there is not a solution and we
do not know what it would be. With that, we are having these conversations. I think when
we can all come together and agree on what resources we can bring to each other, we have to
remember that it is going to need to be a very multi-faceted approach. The biggest issue that
every state has learned from this is that they try one thing and it does not succeed or you do
not get the results you wanted, then they try another. It is failing because it is one (1) step
at a time. What we need to be doing is about five (5) steps at the same time. Those are things
that will include trapping, it will include trap-neuter-release (TNR), et cetera. As far as TNR,
I know there are a lot of strong emotions about it. At the same time, we are just removing
cats and we are not doing it at the quantity that is needed because of our environment, we
are going to need added options. Every time we move cats, we leave a resource that will feed
more cats. If we do that, it means we are going to have a bigger population. That is why it
is important to do other things. Even going back to the nuisance cat in the back yard...if you
were to remove that cat and not remove the resources it is coming for...that cat may have
just been meowing, you might get a replacement that will scratch the hood of your car or tear
up your flower bushes. We need to measure where are the nuisances and what are the issues
surrounding our cats and look at it as a whole. We can look at TNR or look at trapping and
removing cats from certain areas, considering cat sanctuaries, or moving them off-island
through our transfer process. Predator fencing is something that we really need to look at
because we have areas on this island where we cannot catch the cats. It is not going to work.
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There are always going to be populations that will be inaccessible to us and will still be
reproducing. That is why it is so important to be doing five (5) things at once to do a big push
and do a targeted push on communities. We are working in an ecosystem that is so complex.
Our response needs to be complex as well.
Councilmember Evslin: Thank you for that answer. My only hope is that
we do take on that responsibility and I know it is not solely your responsibility. However the
Council can engage in that conversation, please let us know. I know it is a conversation that
sometimes just engaging in it is important and we have to make the effort for some long-term
solutions. Lastly, two (2) years ago, there was a discussion at budget about the possibility of
expanding the low-cost spay and neuter programs. The discussion was that KHS had a
certain amount of money to do those programs. Are you able to do those programs now and
is that a possibility into the future as a long-term solution to reducing our stray animal
population?
Ms. Schaefer: We have increased to an extent the amount of
animals we can schedule for public spay/neuter. Our limiting factor is the size of our medical
department. We only have one (1) surgery room. When we get to a place where we have a
second surgical operation table, that will also increase capacity as well. So right now, it is
sort of an infrastructure thing that is holding us back. We are working on that and working
to find solutions for that. When we are at a point where we have two (2) surgical suites, that
will increase our surgery rates. We have partnered with the Kaua`i Community Cat
Project (KCCP) to increase that and to do more cat surgeries through their program. We
invited their mobile spay/neuter clinic to our shelter and that is something we are looking to
continue in the future. We are not really there right now. We have increased things a little,
but not to what the public needs and for the cat population out there right now. It is
something we can achieve and are working on right now.
Councilmember Evslin: Okay, great. Thank you very much for all of the
work that you do.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: I appreciate the amount of time that we have
spent on this. I am only bringing this up because I feel it is in direct response to a number
of E-mails that we have received and the outrage at the County for being a part of the
predator challenge and funding some of that. I am happy to hear that you have a partnership
with KCCP. I live in Kilauea right next to the bird refuge. We have birds all over the place
and people seem to drop kittens off at the shopping center. There are two (2) in that area
now that sit out in front of tables. I think if an organization like KCCP could go in and collect
those cats at the shopping center while they are still young and tame, and take them to KHS,
it sounds like you might be able to address them and get them adopted. This happens in
Hanalei as well, people leaving cats at the shopping center there as well. For the feral cat
colony caretakers, we have a number of them who go to Lydgate...they were upset at the cats
possibly being euthanized. If they have cats gentle enough, can they bring them to KHS? If
the contractor handling predator control decides they are gentle enough, can they bring them
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to you? I think it is fair to say these people who are caretakers are very passionate. Do you
have a comment on that? I appreciate all that you do.
Ms. Schaefer: If you have a cat that you think is adoptable and
it is able to be handled, you can absolutely bring the cat to us. With people who are feeding
cats, they usually consider themselves colony cat caretakers and are usually fairly attached
to the cats that they are feeding and caring for. You are not going to get a lot of people who
are willing to part with them. They do tend to bring us litters, because they do not want their
colony to grow, or they take advantage of the free spay/neuter clinics. I would suggest that
they not necessarily bring their cats to us, because I do not want them to feel that I want
them to part from the animal that they are quite fond of, but maybe our goal should be ensure
that those who are caring for the colonies are doing so in a really good way. We can provide
food so the cats are not hunting, and that decreases toxoplasmosis, and make sure that they
are being spayed or neutered and vaccinated so they are not spreading diseases through the
cat colonies. The solution instead may be to put guidelines on community cat colonies and to
offer assistance to them. I feel right now that people hide that they care for cats and that
they have these colonies. That is not helping us. It could actually be detrimental to us. If
they say they are feeding five (5) cats in their yard and they need food, we could help with
that. Once they stop feeding the cats, they will go somewhere else and become an issue for
someone else. I think we need to better engage with our cat colony caretakers and assure
them that we do not want to separate them from their colony. We just want to ensure they
are taken care of, not reproducing, and not causing any health issues.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: This is such a tough and touchy subject for both
sides...cat lovers and people who tolerate cats. I am kind of both. I am a lover of cats and I
am a tolerator of cats. I am also a state environmentalist in Koke`e teaching a program to
ensure that our ecosystem and native birds and flora can thrive. The cats get into our native
forests, they do not only affect the native birds in Kilauea. We have fencing going up in areas
and those fences may do well against rats and dogs, but the cats can climb anything. If we
as a community do not do what we can to protect our ecosystem in Koke`e, we will have a
major problem up in the rainforest as it relates to feral cats. I think our community needs to
know that. Our cat caregivers need to know that and come up with some kind of solution. It
is not an easy one, but we need to work together to come up with a solution. Here is a story,
and I will make it brief. We had a cat, her name was "Cece" and she was a really good cat.
She would always venture to the neighbor's property and there was no way we could just
keep her in our yard. I think now with the global positioning system (GPS) and electric
fences, there is a way to put a collar on your animal so it cannot get out of your yard. We had
to make a choice with Cece the cat as to whether she would remain in our yard or cause havoc
on the neighbor's chickens, like Councilmember Evslin mentioned with his chicken farm. We
had Cece's claws removed, which made her more of a house cat. She could definitely not
protect herself against a dog, but my hunting dogs are locked up and do not roam free like
the free-range cats out there. With that said, Cece the cat lives a very good life and no longer
attacks the neighbor's chickens. She could not feed herself like she could with her claws,
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because she could not catch birds or rats. But she is fed and has a good life. I am just giving
a short story for the community. Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any further questions for the Kaua`i
Humane Society or for the Department of Finance? If not, let us take our ten-minute caption
break and come back for the Departmental Budget Reviews for the Office of Economic
Development and the Planning Department. I think we will be able to finish before lunch.
There being no objections, the Committee recessed at 11:06 a.m.
The meeting was called back to order at 11:20 a.m., and proceeded as follows:
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Welcome back. Up next we have the Office of
Economic Development and we have Director Nalani Brun on the line with us. Nalani, please
give us a brief overview of your budget.
Office of Economic Development
NALANI K. KAAUWAI BRUN, Director of Economic Development (via remote
technology): Aloha. I am just going to work off the budget and
operation synopsis. It was quite a year as we all know, but some of the major changes and
variances in our operations budget, positions, we do not have a lot of changes. That is one.
Increases—the largest increases that we have in our budget is a$50,000 line item for funding
of our stewardship program. In the past we have put this in every few years because what
we do is we reach out and do an RFP to all of our stewardship program members. We have
six(6) Kaua`i stewardship people who do our wahi pana on County lands and we periodically
work with some of the nine (9) state stewardship groups as well for some of the little things
that they need. This allows us to support those organizations with fixing their tools they use
to work on some of these wahi pana, provide supplies, and support volunteer efforts in a lot
of these properties that are really important to us. Another large increase was $75,000—we
want to get to our Kauai Agricultural Plan. The last one was done in the early`80s, therefore
it does not need to be "updated," it needs to be completely redone. This year, we are working
on our Comprehensive Economic Development Strategy (CEDS) update that we do every few
years with the Kauai Economic Development Board (KEDB) and immediately following that
and we are actually doing research now and we plan to work on the Kaua`i Agricultural Plan.
We asked for an increase for the Kauai Visitors Bureau (KVB) of$75,000. Typically
they do $225,000, we asked for $300,000 this year. We want them to be able to use those
funds to not only recover quickly, but also to get the correct information out to visitors. We
expect the pandemic will obviously continue and we want the visitors to be visiting in a
responsible manner and we need to educate them before they actually arrive here on the
island. We added more money for a Workforce Training Program. We have Workforce
Investment Opportunity Act (WIOA) funds, but this year what we found is that they do not
always fund the kind of training that our workers are requesting, which is something as
simple as forklift training. They would like to have that type of training so they can actually
step up in the jobs that they have now. Our training funds do not have the restrictions that
WIOA funds have, so our staff are able to provide those types of services to get them going in
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their jobs. Also we asked for a little more in the Tourism Product Development Fund area
and that is because the destination management action plan, done by the Hawai`i Tourism
Authority (HTA) was completed during the pandemic and it called out many of the projects
that we also see the tourism strategic plan and the General Plan. We want to use this money
to match their funding of $215,000 this year and they plan to have more money next year,
which will be right around October. We would like to use those funds to match what they
are doing and try to push a lot of those initiatives forward. Those initiatives are really all
about managing our destinations, so we do not get to a point where our residents are very
uncomfortable with the visitor industry. Other than that, decreases, like most departments,
we decreased our travel budget. We are not planning to travel. We have become Zoom super
specialists and plan to use that as much as possible moving forward to do our off-island
meetings. We are expecting that we might have to do a few, but mostly we want to do it this
way. It saves us time and we are able to operate faster. We do not have any operational
challenges, obviously. We really work hard on our teamwork and that brings me to our
operational highlights. What we have done this year is really get into teams. Before it was,
as I am sure most of you know, very siloed, so we would have our agriculture specialist doing
just agriculture, the tourism person would be just doing tourism and that is how it was. But
it did not give us a lot of depth, so if someone was missing, we were not able to fill the gap
very quickly. What we have done now in OED is create teams. We have three (3) people on
each team. It does not mean that another person might not be working on the Ag team or the
Film team or the Tourism team, but it means that those people are most responsible for
giving depth into those areas. The other team members will come on board just to learn just
the surface areas of those different sectors.Another thing is that we spent the first half of FY
2021 managing emergency funding in OED work that had to do with the CARES funding.
The biggest positive that came out of this is that we really learned to "hold hands" with each
other, with the rest of the County departments, with private industries, with all of our
partners out there, and I would say the pandemic was horrible, but the teamwork was
incredible. We are really hoping that as we move forward that this is the type of thing we
want to keep on doing. In the past, we have always been lucky because we work with so
many nonprofits through our grant programs, that we were able to activate quite quickly. We
expended a lot of money when it came to that funding, even outside of the General Fund.
Actually the total other funds that we utilized over the last year was about $17,000,000 and
that did not even count those where we did not touch the money, but we assisted in
programing. If you count that, we actually expended $22,000,000, including the General
Fund. It was quite a year for us. We had to get our "ducks in a row" and we really enjoyed
the process.
Lastly, the other operational highlight is that this year, because we could not do a lot
of the grants that we typically do, like special events, because the pandemic pretty much
nixed that, we ended up doing an innovative grant program. What we did was we asked
people to give us their best ideas for innovative ways to solve local problems. That on its own
was a new thing, but the second thing that was new was that we actually went to the
community and asked for input so they could chime in on how they felt about the process,
how they felt about the applications, so we can really see what the community did. It was
pretty amazing.We had 1,445 registered users that came onto that site and there were almost
3,500 opinions about different projects that were out there. We thought it was amazing. They
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even wrote 679 comments on the side. We realize that people are interested and they want
to engage, so we just need to make that available to people as much as we can. For next year,
we are planning to do it again, but this time we want to give more time. One problem we had
in that area was on the word "innovation" can be interpreted in many different ways. We
really want to get that definition down for next year. The other thing we want to do is do
more outreach and give more time to people to really look at things, not only the applicants,
but also the community folks who are looking at things, so it is not a big rush. Other than
that, things are very similar. We tried to cut where we could and tried to add in places where
we thought would make the most difference.
With that, I just want to answer questions that came over yesterday, so I can get that
off the table. One of the questions that came was about the Business Innovation line item,
the $55,000. That line item focuses on grants for the specific purpose of business innovation.
In FY 2021, we sent that request for proposals through an innovation grants process and one
of the areas of focus was innovation grants in business innovation. We did receive several
proposals and ultimately funded two (2) in the area of small business. The total was in the
near of$55,000, but the projects we see funding this year were focused on providing training
and development opportunities for local Kaua`i businesses. We do anticipate that small
businesses will continue to need this type of support into the next fiscal year, so we have
included that line item again in the budget. The other one was the amount of CARES Act
funding administered by OED relating to agriculture food distributions, et cetera. OED
administered the CARES agriculture projects. The amount of funding for people who won
awards there was$2,900,000—that is what we did with the agricultural projects.The CARES
food support programs was managed by the fantastic Parks & Recreation Department. We
worked with them on that program, but they managed all of those funding. That was actually
1,500,000. We did also administer the Kupuna Care of Farmer Fare program out of the
County's emergency funds, not CARES. We spent $106,700 out of the emergency funds and
then we also received additional CDBG funding for $150,000 to continue the program. That
is what is related to the agriculture and food distributions program. That is all I have.
Councilmember Chock: Mahalo Nalani. I appreciate the overview. I
wanted to cross-reference your narrative with what I am looking at in the budget. On
page 2, item number 2, the major changes, the first one is on the funding of stewardship
program. Can you reflect where that is showing up? I am guessing it is on page 87 of our
Budget.
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: It is 3600 account, because they are considered
grant programs.
Councilmember Chock: I am looking at master page on the very bottom,
page 87.
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Yes, it is an administrative grant.
Councilmember Chock: What other pieces are falling into Administration?
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Ms. Kaauwai Brun: There is a stewardship program, we also have
emergency industry support at $50,000, it was $75,000 last year, but that is again the
Request for Proposals (RFP) grants and we go out, we look for emerging industry projects.
We also had a data manager for Vista, so basically we have two (2) Vista employees in our
Office and one of them is basically here specifically to help us gather data together. Not just
for things like the agricultural plan, but just in general business data, so they are helping us
coordinate that at $16,000. We have two (2) grants that will go out to the YWCA. One for
$70,518 and one for $85,518. We had the Ag plan, and that is it. I am happy to send a
breakdown, too, if you need it.
Councilmember Chock: That is a good idea. If we can be provided with a
breakdown. I see Sexual Assault, Domestic Violence, I was assuming that was YWCA as well.
My last question is really about the KVB—you mentioned $300,000, I see $75,000 and
$23,000 addition. One for marketing our island where there was loss of HTA funding and
another for tourism product development, but when I look at the tourism line item under
grant in aid, it is $473,000.
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: That will be in this document. The Visitor
Industry Plan Monitoring with the KVB, which is $20,000, we have Hawaiian Culture
Related Projects, so we kept $25,000 in there and that is part of the business innovation
grants again. For those ones we specifically asked for projects that are culturally related.
Right now we have events of duties support. We are expecting or hoping, maybe, that we
actually going to be having events again in the second half of FY 2022. That is solely cutting
down what we had before to make that money available, because we know we could have
large events like the Waimea Town Celebration, the Kamehameha Day Parade, and we have
those moneys to support the needs like they have to shut down roads in that period of time,
the first half of the year. We also have $30,000 for special events,just in case they need event
support during that same period.
Councilmember Chock: When we get that list, it will be better and easier
for me to understand. I am looking at the increases and I am making the assumptions or I
think it is correct within this amount. Can you differentiate...because it sounds like some of
it is competitive as we set it up in the past and some of it is really directed and I would like
to know which ones are directive versus competitive.
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Okay.
Councilmember Chock: You mentioned that for that increase for KVB—
and by the way I think they do a great job—was toward marketing our island, however what
I heard in your description was more about education of our visitors. I appreciate that. I
think it is an important aspect of what we should be focusing on rather than a media blitz,
so I would like to know if that is what the money is being used for.
Ms. Brun: It will be used in both ways, because they do not
have any money at this point. There is no money coming in from HTA for them. Whatever
the money gives them is all that they have, so what it does ensure for us is all their marketing
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is really not only they are letting people know that we are open, but it also lets them know if
they are going to choose to come, this is the way that they can choose to come. Sue Kanoho
does a really good job of getting the word out about how...if you are visiting, we love to have
you, we want you to do it in this very specific way. She is also a huge part of our Destination
Management Action Plans and the Tourism Strategic Plan, so we work together trying to get
the visitor industry the way we would like to see the visitor industry: healthy and educated.
It will be used in both ways.
Councilmember Chock: Thank you. I appreciate Sue Kanoho's work. How
short funded has HTA been for KVB's budget?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: I know it is quite a bit and I am happy to get that
information to you.
Councilmember Kuali`i: My questions were along the same lines as
Council Vice Chair Chock's question.As far as tying it to these line items in the budget, there
are two (2) sections, not only the Grant in Aid section on page 87, but the Other Services
section on page 86. Of the amounts of increases, the increase $25,000 for workforce training,
is that the $25,000 that is under Other Services? Was that zero before?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: It is under Other Services. Last year it was zero
and now it is $25,000.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Is it okay to assume that the $75,000 to Kaua`i
Agricultural Plan is under the Grant in Aid for agriculture, which is now $95,000, so it was
$20,000 last year and that is the increase of$75,000?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Yes.
Councilmember Kuali`i: The only other thing about both of these is, what
is the difference between the list that is included under Other Services and the list that is
included in Grant in Aid? Is it that the Grant in Aid is the one that are competitive and the
other ones under Other Services are the ones that are directed?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: No. Anything that is in Grant in Aid just tells us
there is a certain procurement process we need to use to do that. If we are going to give it
directly to someone than we will call it out as a line item and I should be giving you this
sheet, obviously, so I am going to send this right over. We try to do things competitively.
There are few things that we do not. The Ag plan is one of them, the YWCA money is one of
them, money to the KVB is one of them, and for the Tourism Strategic Monitoring, because
we do not have another vendor for those types of things. Generally, that is it. The rest of it,
we go out for competition or we use another procurement method.
Councilmember Kuali`i: On your operational highlights you talked about
the CARES Act money and the RFP and all the moneys you help facilitate getting out to the
community. Do you have any idea at this point if...as a result of the new American Rescue
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Plan Act, we could bring in some money directly to the County and also a lot more money to
the State if we will have an opportunity to do another round of grants out to the community?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Currently the Administration has asked everyone
to pitch different areas that we have, as we try to figure out what the economy is going to
look like going through summer. We are going through that process right now. Grant
programs are on our list to pitch.
Councilmember Kuali`i: I sent a question over regarding the American
Rescue Plan Act and how there are some specific moneys for small business and economic
development and they are specially focusing on job losses in the travel, tourism, and outdoor
recreation sectors. I think you should definitely go after those funds to help not only our small
businesses, but also our visitors bureau. I am also hopeful that the State will do more with
the loss of tourism revenue for HTA, utilizing the federal funds, so I think we should stay on
top of that and I bet you Sue is.
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Absolutely.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you for all your hard work. What is a little
bit confusing is you mentioned our Ag plan, you had $75,000—is that the "Consulting
Services" on page 87?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: The $75,000 is for the work that we do with the
business mentor. The $75,000 that we are going to be using for the Ag plan is actually in the
grants program, because we are planning to give it to the Kaua`i Economic Development
Board, who does our Comprehensive Economic Development Strategy. It is actually in the
grant program in the Administration budget, that big chunk.
Councilmember De Costa: Is it different from the $95,000 that is in the Grant
in Aid program? Is that the same or is it different?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Yes. The $95,000 that is in the Grant in Aid
program is actually part of our RFP. That is the one that we put out to the community for
community partners for different projects. The Ag plan itself, actually almost a line item that
is under the Administration.
Councilmember DeCosta: What I am gathering is that it is one of our main
focus, which is Ag in the OED, am I correct?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Absolutely. One thing we heard from our
community many times over is that the place they have to diversify to is agriculture. That is
where we want to put a lot of effort.
Councilmember DeCosta: With that being said, the CARES Act money that
you mentioned, the $2,900,000, can you explain to us where was the bulk of that money
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funneled through? Was it all nonprofits or private businesses? How was the $2,900,000 used
with agriculture?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: When we give out our grants, they have to go to a
nonprofit, that is just the process. Sometimes nonprofits are represented, like the KEDB for
other businesses that are on their board, so sometimes the Farm Bureau has a business that
they work with and so they will be like the fiscal sponsor. The funding there was one for the
Farm Bureau and basically it went to increase and gain knowledge in vanilla farming. They
have been working with Lydgate Farms and that was just over $44,000. Waipa Foundation
did $143,000 for kalo. `Aina Ho`okupu 0 Kilauea did some projects out at their Ag Park out
there for just under $660,000. KEDB did the alfalfa project on the West Side for $750,000.
Councilmember DeCosta: Can I ask about the $750,000? Was that to a
nonprofit?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: That went to KEDB. They are a nonprofit.
Councilmember DeCosta: Is that different from what Hartung Brothers, Inc.
received?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: KEDB is the fiscal sponsor; I think they work with
Hartung to do the project.
Councilmember DeCosta: Is Hartung a nonprofit?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: No, they are not.
Councilmember DeCosta: You can continue.
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: The Moloa`a Irrigation Corporative did some
water meters, they are having some problems with water, as we all know, in Moloa`a—
$52,000. The North Shore Electronic Benefit Transfer (EBT) program works with several of
our partners like Malama Kaua`i and College of Tropical Argiculture and Human Resources
(CTAHR) to do education for farming. We are hoping to continue that project somewhere into
the future, because it helps our farmers get certified—$280,000. KEDB had another proposal
that basically was cattle-related, trying to get some of the lands irrigated and that was for
$1,000,000. That partner was Gay & Robinson.
Councilmember DeCosta: Gay & Robinson is a nonprofit?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Gay & Robinson is for profit, KEDB was their
fiscal sponsor, so they work with Gay & Robinson to do the project.
Councilmember DeCosta: Okay.
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Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Those are the CARES Act recipients for the
agricultural program.
Councilmember DeCosta: With our innovation grants, we put $500,000—
there were ten (10) $50,000 grants, am I correct?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Actually there were eleven (11), they were not all
$50,000. A couple of them were less, so that we were able to fund eleven (11).
Councilmember DeCosta: Can you tell us how many of those grants were
food security types of project and would add our agricultural independence here?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Seven (7).
Councilmember DeCosta: Excellent. What were the products?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Very different. $50,000 went to an `ulu
fruit-to-flour project where they are trying to create flour with 'ulu. There was a Kaua`i pig
pen systems with `Aina Ho`okupu 0 Kilauea, basically they were using that natural Korean
farming method. They are going to test that out and share the results with everyone. They
are doing cultural education about how to farm Hawaiian traditional style—$50,000. Garden
Island Research Conservation Development gave us a project in cooperation with the Kaua`i
Invasive Species Committee. They are working on some creative ways to not allow the Kaua`i
coffee beetle to get to us. `Aina Ho`okupu 0 Kilauea was a farm-tech project. They are going
to be sharing that education as well and that one was actually $45,000 and it is looking at
user technology on a farm. To not only look at weather, but how well the soil is doing, so we
are really hoping that one proves a really good project, so we can share it with other farms.
Malama Kaua`i is a greens and things project, so that is sort of a CSA box creation. Kaua`i
Economic Development Board is working with Lydgate Farms and they are expanding from
chocolate to vanilla.
Councilmember Cowden: Thank you for everything that has been said. I
want to acknowledge how your organization was another one of the really key ones in these
entire COVID-19 times. You were working on the economic health of our community and I
know it must have been very difficult thinking, "Who gets awarded grants and who does not,"
especially under time constraints, so thank you. Without any detail, I am just building on
Councilmember DeCosta's question, because I am trying to think of our next year. In this
past year, do you have a loose number of how many dollars came through your department
in CARES money or other stimulus grants that are not reflected in our budget numbers?
Was it $5,000,000?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Just specifically CARES?
Councilmember Cowden: All your funds. I am just looking for a loose
number, approximately $3,000,000, $5,000,000, $10,000,000. I know it was more than
$3,000,000, but loose number of how much money. This has been a bumper year for OED
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because of this difficult time. It is also something that your normal capacity is not designed
to handle, you do not normally push through $10,000,000 worth of grants, which is a lot of
follow on. Do you loosely how much supplemental money you had?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Yes. Supplemental due to the pandemic is
$14,400,000 in addition.
Councilmember Cowden: $14,400,000. Thank you very much for managing
that. It is both a blessing and a bummer to have to be handling who receives funds and who
does not and following up on it. When we are looking at our upcoming year, do we know yet
if there is going to be a windfall of money that might be coming through OED to be more...I
love the Rise to Work program, by the way, I think that is great. Do we have more money
that we are anticipating, so we know to have the capacity for training, managing, and
hopefully having just a little bit greater window of time for helping to do the request for
funding procurements for the applicants? That was a lot of pressure last summer.
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Yes, it was.
Councilmember Cowden: What do you anticipate coming up?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: I do not know for sure, but we are pitching that we
do it again. We feel like engaging with the community is a huge win. You almost double, if
not triple your money with their effort, because they come in with something, not to mention
their in-kind contributions. We are very hopeful that there will another...some type of grant
program moving into the future, but we will be waiting for that decision.
Councilmember Cowden: Do you feel better prepared to handle it this time?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: We have the process in place, so we are very
grateful for that.
Councilmember Cowden: That is exciting. I know that we really need to
care for the economic health of our community that has suffered greatly. I am proud of the
role that the County had in assisting that. I honor OED for the overwhelming work and I
know I just helped in one of those grant things and it was hard. It was not easy. It was a
good experience for me to see what you folks are going through.
Councilmember Evslin: Thank you for the presentation and for your heroic
work over the last year. You did a really good job in getting most of the CARES Act money
out to really good and creative programs given the insane constraints around CARES Act
spending and the rapid timeframe necessary to spend it. I think you funded a lot of creative
programs. I, too, support hopefully using American Rescue Plan money to help fund similar
types of grant programs. It really does cultivate creativity in the community and help fund a
lot of programs. Hopefully we can go in that direction. I have a question on the Grant in Aid
tourism line item. I know there has been a lot of talk with KEDB and HTA in moving towards
"managing" tourism versus "marketing" tourism. You said a lot of this money is going
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towards inform visitors of the ways to get here, et cetera. It would be good for us to have a
breakdown. It sounded like you were going to provide us with a breakdown of how that
tourism money is going to be spent. If you could distinguish marketing versus more managing
types of activities, so we can understand how that money is going, that would be appreciated.
Unless you have somewhat of a breakdown that you can give us right now?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: I think it would be better for me to provide it to
you; it will be nice and clear. Thank you for the question.
Councilmember Evslin: Great.
Councilmember Carvalho: Thank you for all the great work you folks are
doing. I have a follow-up on the stewardship program. You mentioned there were six (6)
stewardships under the County and the State had nine (9)?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Yes, nine (9). The State always had their
program, but they are not able to malama it as much as we can, so that is why we dip in
there.
Councilmember Carvalho: In the budget now, we are looking for more
opportunities for more stewardships in each moku, like how we did before?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Yes.
Councilmember Carvalho: We talked about this river and stream
maintenance program, which is you work along the rivers and streams and some of the
groups and organizations could fall under this particular program to help support that effort?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Yes. I think the most difficult thing that they have
was making sure they had permits, but we are always willing to work with that, because
usually those streams directly affect some of our kalo fields or agriculture, so it is really
important that we keep that intact.
Councilmember Carvalho: Aina Ho`okupu 0 Kilauea...because of the
agriculture component you talked about and all the agriculture parts that are involved, I
know there was talk about duplicating that in another part of the island. Is that still on the
table? Have there been discussions on looking at something like that?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Yes, all the time. That was one of our little shining
moments of glory and we are actively looking for another "Yoshito L'Hote," because that
seems to be the key to having these Ag parks work. We need someone with that super passion
behind them.
Councilmember Carvalho: Whoever is watching, there are opportunities like
that, which comes with overall support.
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Councilmember DeCosta: I apologize for all the tough questions, but that is
a lot of money that we put out through your division and we want to make sure we are
accountable and that we understand what is happening. You mentioning Yoshito in Kilauea
and what an excellent program he did and the grant moneys that we have put into that
program...who is KEDB? Is that your division?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: No. They are actually a private nonprofit,
separate, but they are one of our very close partners that we work with. KEDB—Kaua`i
Economic Development Board.
Councilmember DeCosta: I noticed that two (2) of our grant recipients were
for-profit companies and the money was used with KEDB and they were the fiscal sponsor.
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Yes.
Councilmember DeCosta: Is that something that we can try to do in the
future to create another type of program, like what Yoshito has, that if people cannot get a
nonprofit. There are many taro farmers on the west side, some nonprofit and some are for
profit, but they are all struggling. I know we have given some funding to the North Shore
taro farmers, maybe because they had a nonprofit, but it would be nice if we could take care
all of our farmers, whether they are a nonprofit or for-profit. Would KEDB be willing to do
this for the smaller-type farmer or is it just for a one-time deal with Hartung and Gay &
Robinson?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: That is probably a question for KEDB. I have seen
a lot of different organizations, or even people, ask for support from them and they are always
very willing to look at it. Mostly what they look at is if it is a viable project, are there enough
people involved that are going to help them get, not just the work done, but the paperwork
done. KEDB tends to do the paperwork piece, the recording piece, the budgeting piece, and
then the partner will actually do the work. I just say individuals should approach them.
There are actually quite a few really good nonprofit fiscal sponsors on-island. Kaua`i has been
very blessed with that. We have wonderful support systems. Even like the Garden Island
RC&D, they are another organization that is very good in doing that. Whoever it is you have
out there, let me know, I can point them to other organizations on the west side that are
closer to them. We are happy to do that.
Councilmember Kuali`i: On page 67, the line item "Consulting Services,"
$65,000 last year and this year $75,000. Business mentor facilitator multi-source data—can
you tell us what that is?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: We use $55,000 of that for a business mentor
program for the Kaua`i Rise initiative. This business mentor is not the kind of mentor that
do start-ups. They go and work with businesses on-island that are looking at actually
growing and hopefully hiring more people. An example is we had him go out and work with
the hemp company. As they are trying to adjust and change the way they are doing business
for growth, he will often go and give advice and what he brings is not only a wealth of
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knowledge in start-ups and growth of business, he also has a lot of connections with the
different private funders. If he can get them to a place where they can be looked at by private
funders, he also helps with that.Besides doing that,we have some funding from USDA where
they actually give us funding to help him work with smaller businesses, so not always just
the medium to large, but the small to medium,just not start-ups. He does that type of work,
too. He is such a huge help for us, because we are not business people. We know how to make
government work for businesses or work for the community. He brings us that wonderful
knowledge and has helped OED learn about really how business works and how it should be
working. That portion is for him. We use the other $20,000 to work with Kaua`i Technology
Strategy team. They are helping us answer questions. We have really big questions and we
do not have a lot of data, especially in agriculture. We have been utilizing their services to
dig for data everywhere and try to come up with the best answer, so when we are asking
about"When do we think we will be in a safe place to send farm interns out into the farms,"
they use data to try to give us the best answer that we can use to make a move forward. We
have never worked with them before, a lot of them come from general dynamics, so we have
learned so much in that area with that partner, because they teach us how to use economic
information and how to pin it down into these tiny holes so that we can figure out how to
make the best decision. Those are the two (2) things that we work on in that area. They are
both partners.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Can you remind me what the Special Projects
Kekaha CAC Facilitator for $60,000 is?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Basically, the Kekaha Host Community Benefits
(HCB) program has a committee that makes decision on the funding that they get from the
landfill and they have a Facilitator who helps them. Not only does the facilitator help them
do all their meetings, because they have monthly meetings, have documents to review, she
also helps people who live in Kekaha write grants that are going to be submitted to the CAC,
she sets up all the microphones, does all the recordings, follows Sunshine Law. She basically
runs that program for us. When we had that in-house, it was really time consuming. We did
not have enough time to do it, so we were really grateful when we were able to get some
funding to keep their staff member onboard to get that done. It helps us be compliant.
Councilmember Kuali`i: The funding is paid by the source of funding to
begin with, right?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: It is a line item in the General Fund.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Do you know what the total amount of grants they
give out each year?
Ms. Kaauwai Brun: Each year, they gotten into their coffers about
$280,000 to $300,000 per year. In the beginning, it was a little slow, but now they have been
giving out close to $250,000.
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Councilmember Evslin: I happened to see an E-mail come through with
this economic dashboard on the Kaua`i Forward website and had seconds to browse through
it before my computer crashed—really impressive dashboard. Can you quickly explain that?
Also, there was discussion around trying to compile mobility data and to see where tourists
are congregating and that type of thing; were you able to compile that type of data and could
you talk about the dashboard?
Ms. Brun: The mobility data, no, we were not able to
complete that project. We have to hold hands with the Department of Transportation, so
what we were doing is we were combining our funds with their funds, but all of their funds
ended up going to Hawai`i Island. We are pitching that project again moving forward and we
are hoping that we are going to get positive action moving into the next fiscal year. The
dashboard, yes, we actually have had it up for a little bit, we have been tweaking it as much
as we can so that it is providing information that we thought people could find useful. It has
a lot of data that people have not seen, such as our permitting data and things like that. We
invite you to check it out. We even have an area on there for us to receive feedback, because
that is what we are interested in. We want to get feedback so that we can make it better. I
cannot tell you how grateful I am for the OED team that I work with. I would not be here if
they were not here. They are all fantastic and I thank them every day for showing up to
work.
Councilmember Evslin: The dashboard looks really informative and I am
excited to dig in deeper and I think it is a great resource for the entire community.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Any further questions for OED? If not, thank you,
Nalani. We will move to the Planning Department.
Planning Department
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Ka`aina, if you want to give us a brief overview of
your budget and then we will ask whatever questions we have.
KA'AINA S. HULL, Planning Director (via remote technology): Thank you
Committee Chair Kaneshiro, and Members of the Council. Ka`aina Hull, on behalf of the
Planning Department. Briefly,we do not have many changes to our budget. We are reducing
the budget by approximately $150,000, which is roughly 4% of our budget. $2,800,000 is
comprised of salaries and wages, and$200,000-$300,000 for operating expenses. We can save
with adjusting salaries with a small amount in our operations. That is where we are at in a
nutshell.
We faced similar departmental operational challenges this past year. Maintaining
social distancing parameters within the COVID-19 pandemic, being able to have staff work
office procedures, and our staff working with the Kaua`i Emergency Management Agency
(KEMA) operations. We have two (2) designated staff working at KEMA full-time. A lot of
our staff members are working with the airport crew for the past several months during the
screening process. We have been able to segue those groups down to having one (1) person
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working with the airport crew, but we still have two(2)individuals working at KEMA. These
are some of the challenges we are facing, but nothing that we are not able to overcome. We
are also working to spin up the Land Information Management System (LIMS) program,
which I shared during discussion with you folks last week regarding the specific contract.
Our operational highlights from this year, our biggest project that we came to
conclusion with in partnership with the Council was the adoption of the West Kaua`i
Community Plan and the various ordinances and policies. That was a huge accomplishment
for our Department, but I would like to also thank the Council for their time, commitment,
and review for that project. We are currently working closely and following up with Waimea
Open Coastal Edge District to get actual administrative rules spun up specifically for that
district. The two (2) other operational highlights. Although it was somewhat of an obstacle,
it is highlighting participation and working with KEMA, Hawai`i Army National Guard, and
KPD in the response to the COVID-19 emergency. Like I said, we had a fair amount of staff
working there for several months with the airport team and KEMA. I know overtime there
has always been a particular concern for the Council and the public when reviewing our
budget. You can see that this past year we spent more money in overtime than we were
budgeted for. We were able to accommodate that with the CARES Act. We were budgeted
approximately $20,000, and we have $57,000 expended. To be upfront, we have another
$40,000 deficit that will be covered by the CARES Act. That is all coming because we had
numerous staff members working in the airport operation seven days a week, and often it
was fourteen to sixteen-hour days. As I previously mentioned, we were able to draw that
number down. We have one (1) member working that shift daily, and the latest that shift
goes to is 11:00 p.m. However, all that overtime has been in response to the COVID-19
pandemic. The last highlight our Department accomplished this year, and a personal
highlight for me, was the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) we were able to execute
with Airbnb, VRBO, and Expedia. The Administration, the Office of the County Attorney,
and Jodi and I initially mapped out a long-range comprehensive plan to compel third-party
host platforms to compel them to provide information. The mapping process required State
laws to be amended, the County Council laws to be amended, and a huge fight at both the
Circuit Court and all the way up to the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.
We set the entire program in place and strategy of approach for six (6) to eight (8) years. In
the midst of the first few years to get the State laws adopted, we began to have confidential
side discussions with these platforms to come to the first agreement in the nation whereby
these platforms voluntarily are now handing us the information on operators as opposed to
requiring years and over $100,000 in litigation to get that information. We are still in the
infancy stages of implementing. I can say that the platforms have already moved. Over 100
operators have refused to provide the information that is required, but we are still ironing
out the details. It is another huge accomplishment we were able to complete within the
parameters in the budget that we have been afforded the past few years.
That is a nutshell, brief highlights, and some of our challenges. Again, we are
reducing the budget by 4.7%. I will open it up for questions. I know you had a long day and
want to get moving, but is there any questions that you folks might have?
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Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any questions from the Members?
Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you for doing a great job. The rumor
circulating is that "Ka`aina in the Planning Department is doing a good job." Thank you.
Ka`aina, you mentioned coastal areas. Is that when we were doing subdivisions in the coastal
areas and we were looking out for access areas to the beaches that that should be accessible
to the constituents, or are we talking about areas with sea level rise and how we decide to
position the homes further back within the coastal areas? Can you explain that to me?
Mr. Hull: Yes, Councilmember. The specific aspect that I
was addressing was the recent adoption of the Special Treatment Coastal Edge zoning
district. This is an overlay that requires further scrutiny by the Planning Commission for
the specific purpose of ensuring that a proposal can mitigate sea level rise and climate change
impacts. That is the specific purpose of that Bill. That Ordinance requires discretionary
review at the Planning Commission level. In which time, through discretionary review,
discussions such as beach access can specifically happen. There already are requirements
under the Special Management Area (SMA) code that says, "If you come in for a special
management area permit in the coastal area, the Planning Commission has their discretion
to require coastal accesses." It does for those appropriate areas, but we have not seen any
recently because you do not see subdivisions in the special management area. The last one
that we saw was years ago. When you do not have those applications, you do not have those
opportunities to grab coastal accesses for the public. Without subdivisions...whenever you
propose your first house of record, you are exempt from having to do an SMA review.
Generally, those are the two (2) areas where you might grab coastal access for the public, but
because you do not have as many applications, we do not have that opportunity. With this
coastal district that we recently adopted with the Council's approval, it gives an additional
bite at the apple to look and see when they come in for their permits, if it is appropriate to
grab a coastal access. We can make that analysis now because they must apply for the
specific permits. Councilmember, that is how it would function for coastal accesses.
Councilmember DeCosta: I want to follow up on that only because I believe
there are people from Kaua`i and for everyone on each island throughout the State, who are
as passionate about mauka access as you are makai coastal access. With that being said,
after doing my literature review, I noticed when there is a subdivision on a large piece of
land...for example agricultural land that is turning into a subdivision and rezoning that area,
they have to provide access mauka. However, with a Condominium Property Regine (CPR),
they no longer must provide mauka access. Am I correct or am I wrong?
Mr. Hull: Yes, you are correct, Councilmember. Makai
access has been the focus of various policymakers. Arguably, the Planning Department, too.
There is so much demand for this area. However, you are right. There is demand and desire
to have mauka access to gathering or hunting areas particularly on State land that people
can freely traverse, but they need to be able to get to that land through the mauka accesses.
It is something that can be done to the subdivision of agricultural land. The thing is that
Kauai has a one-time subdivision requirement. Once you subdivide an agricultural lot, you
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can never subdivide it again. Essentially it is to help preserve, protect, and ensure that open
spaces in South Kaua`i and West Kaua`i have been preserved because those large tracts of
land can only do one subdivision. Those landowners have decided not to subdivide it because
they can never do it again. What happened in the '80s is that a savvy group of realtors and
attorneys figured out using the State CPR they can circumvent subdivision requirements
including but not limited to getting infrastructure in place, as well as getting public accesses
in place and recorded. Honestly, what you saw on the North Shore of Kaua`i is that they
chopped up the agricultural land via the CPR process. The land is chopped up, but there are
not as many mauka accesses compared to what one may want or one would have been able
to have gotten if they did the subdivision process. The CPR process prevents us from getting
mauka accesses if landowners choose to do it. It is a worthy discussion and I know that was
discussed several years ago about submitting the CPR process to the County subdivision
processes or possible requirements. However, that discussion would not only include the
Planning Director and Council, that would be something we need to include the County
Attorneys in because it is dealing with State legal regimes and County regimes.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you, Ka`aina. I know on the North Shore
we have a few CPR areas that did not give mauka access, and I do not think we have any and
they still get the agriculture tax break. Even if it is CPR'd, they have not sold it off, so they
get the tax agriculture break until they decide to sell off the chunks of land. Am I correct?
Mr. Hull: If they have it in the Agricultural Dedication
Program, they will get the Agricultural Dedication rates. Yes, you are correct.
Councilmember DeCosta: Okay. Thank you very much, Ka`aina.
Mr. Hull: Thank you, Councilmember.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Carvalho.
Councilmember Carvalho: Aloha, Ka`aina. Mahalo for everything. I wanted
to touch base and I am happy with the plan. Regarding the Plantation Camp Zoning District.
I wanted to get feedback on that. I grew up at the Kealia Plantation Camp on the Eastside
of the island. It is a good idea to get details on that and how that concept will revitalize the
same footprint and reignite that livable and walkable surrounding areas from the past. I
wanted an update on that.
Mr. Hull: Yes, absolutely Councilmember. The Plantation
Camp Zoning District which was adopted as part of the West Kaua`i Community Plan,
recognized that the plantation camps on West Kaua`i...there may be other areas that may be
applicable, but this was assessed during West Kaua`i's update. Those camps in West Kauai
are technically within the Agricultural Zoning District. The Agricultural Zoning District has
a density of five (5) units. Right now, Kaumakani Camp alone currently has 200 in-use
dwelling units with families. Being that those houses already existed before agricultural
zoning existed, technically, they are nonconforming. Which means they legally exist, but
they no longer conform to the laws that were adopted in 1972, which is the Agricultural
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Zoning District. Under a nonconforming status, the County's long-range policy is that
eventually these uses and structures should be phased out. This applies across the board to
nonconforming structures and uses. In looking at the plantation camps in Kaumakani and
Pakala, we recognize that long-range phase-out plan may not be appropriate. These are
existing and vibrant communities, these are providing housing inventory in the middle of a
housing crisis, perhaps we should not have a long-range policy that attempts to phase out
and amortize these uses. The Plantation Camp designation district that we proposed and
the Council adopted basically says, "Any house that is existing in a Plantation Camp Zoning
District, can be rebuilt and reconstructed; and it can exist as an entitlement in perpetuity."
Insofar as the footprint needs to be the same. They cannot knock the structure down and
rebuild a structure double or quadruple its size, or more desirable on the speculative market.
Just to take a step back, under the nonconforming use standards, you cannot demolish a
building and rebuild it. You cannot repair a building more than 50% of its assessed value.
So the landowner, who may or may not want to repair a structure, could not even repair it
for those families who are living in it. What the Plantation Camp District does it that it says
that you can rebuild it, repair it, and keep those structures in perpetuity for usage. So that
is where it is now, just preserving the rights for those camps to exist. We are working with
a consultant to go back into these plantation camps and, where appropriate, look at having
form-based code adopted in certain sections to allow for possible further expansion of small
or accessory mixed uses or even possibly commercial uses that may be appropriate to not only
allow that community to exist, but continue to progress and thrive as it grows. It does not
say that it will be done immediately. Ultimately, we have to come back to the Council for
legislative review and action. We are in the infancy stages and we hope to have a proposal
for you all right around the ending of the next fiscal year. In May or June, we should have a
Plantation Form-Based Code for you to review.
Councilmember Carvalho: Thank you, again. It is historic in value and
homesteading that is important. I look forward to seeing more information. Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: I am going to go down through the synopsis,
because I have a few questions here. Most of my colleagues have already asked the bigger
questions. Regarding the comment about maintaining a level of service to the public during
the pandemic, which Planning positions moved to KEMA to support them? Who left their
main focus to go work at the airport?
Mr. Hull: One of our commission clerks was moved over to
KEMA and is still working with KEMA. Also, our Open Space Commission Planner was
moved over to KEMA and is working with KEMA. We also had our enforcement staff
assigned out to the airports during robust review times. We quite honestly had enforcement
staff, regulatory staff, and clerical staff actually working with the airport crews. Right now,
we have been able to, in the past month, bring that down to just four(4) employees. One who
works seven (7) days a week and three (3) who work one (1) or two (2) days a week with the
airport team.
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Councilmember Cowden: Thank you for that. I think I saw some openings.
Do we have vacancies? I saw vacancies that looked like the same positions you mentioned. I
am sure that Councilmember Kuali`i will ask about those. He has done a great job at that. I
want to acknowledge your maximization of remote work. My understanding when I am
reading that is maybe the job positions might be better served with remote work if it is the
desire of those staff members. Might some of them be able to keep that or at least work partly
from home? Is that the plan?
Mr. Hull: Remote work or teleworking has not only proven
with some of our employees to work far more efficiently, but some of our long-range staff
demonstrated it works fine to telework each day. Some are actually still teleworking to this
day. It was in our regulatory front desk crew, the permit review folks on the frontline, where
this proved most effective. They really came out as the "silver lining" story of COVID-19
remote teleworking. They not only demonstrated it could work, but demonstrated that
working via teleworking is far more efficient for them. On average, your front counter
technician would process about one hundred (100) permits a month prior to the pandemic
and working in-office. Through teleworking, they now average two hundred (200) permits a
month and seeing those numbers we recognized the efficiencies and returns we were getting
with teleworking, while recognizing that we still need a front counter public interface for the
public. Not everyone can work from home. I anticipate having to bring some of them back
as we come out of the pandemic, as my plan to keep them teleworking changed about three
(3) weeks ago when one of my senior-level staff members, who was here for decades,
announced his retirement. Since two (2) of them are relatively new, I am needing to train
them up, and therefore I am bringing all of them back to the office to take advantage of the
time with the senior staffer before he retires. The long-range play of this is that after getting
everyone up to par to review permits at the same level, it would not be hard to request that
the option of telework, if the system and option are still available.
Councilmember Cowden: That is inspiring that we have that opportunity. I
used to manage a lot of employees and if I were looking at that, I would go Monday, Tuesday,
and Wednesday for one group, then Thursday and Friday for another group. So every week
is predictable relative to childcare or whatever else. I just wanted to throw that in there. For
the next piece on your top three (3) operational highlights...I have to give you a lot of gold
stars on this. I want to recognize the impressive work of our long-range planners, achieving
great independent work. I was very pleased that we won a national award for our General
Plan Update. They are doing even better work now and it is nice to see how quickly they are
working and how responsibly they are ensuring that cultural sensitivity is in the writing. I
cannot miss an opportunity to give them a "high five" on that one. As for the Special
Treatment Coastal Edge, I agree that is something that we will need to look at more.
Councilmember Carvalho already talked about the plans for the Plantation Camp zoning. I
think that is great and taking care of the salt farmers is also important. We already talked
about item (c) relating to transient vacation rentals, where it was an important part of our
clientele. There is a different question in here—I am recognizing that large resorts, some of
which are companies are already on-island, are buying up houses and villas all over the
world. They are recognizing the market of TVRs, so they will not be doing Airbnb. They just
rent. I will not mention any names, but you can go find them. If you go to Italy or Thailand,
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or many countries around the world that share in the business of tourism, they have people
living at their properties and have someone come to stay with them in their home-based
business. Is this Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) going to allow them to do their bed
and breakfast? Is that going to be reported?
Mr. Hull: Thank you for that. To give a little background on
the vacation rental program, the County of Kaua`i has a vacation rental ordinance that
prohibits vacation rentals outside of the visitor destination area. There was a very strong
push from the Council at the time, from the Administration, and from the public to really
crack down on illegal vacation rentals. This Department, responding to that, spun up a
specific vacation rental enforcement team that proactively monitors the worldwide web for
advertisements of vacation rentals. We are somewhat known as being anti-vacation rental
in the County of Kaua`i and this is not true. If you are in an illegal spot, we have left no stone
unturned to investigate and issue violation notices to shut them down. Make no mistake
about that. The County of Kaua`i TVR enforcement is a facilitator of vacation rentals by
saying these are the appropriate or inappropriate places to go. In the visitor destination
areas, we welcome you and so it is great that you pay your taxes. That is the way the policy
is set. In monitoring the illegal vacation rentals outside of the visitor destination areas, our
team monitors the internet on an array of different platforms, be it Airbnb or VRBO, or
smaller ones like"420-friendly vacation rentals." We monitor the whole array of the internet.
The thing is that VRBO and Airbnb are the big conglomerates and the main platforms that
they are using. What the MOUs do is they says that Airbnb and Expedia, who account for
seventy percent (70%) to eighty percent (80%) of the vacation rental market share will share
data of who is advertising on their websites, and that they will kick off any illegal operator.
It does not mean to say there are not other avenues that illegal vacation rentals may operate
on and our team does monitor that. These MOUs are a huge step in essentially cutting off
illegal operators from using these major global platforms to have a global audience and
clientele at their disposal.
Councilmember Cowden: I appreciate that. I get the goal and that you are
achieving it. I am supportive of that. What I am worried about is...I do not want to use any
names of this big brand name resorts, because they are here, right? The big brand name
resorts in other countries, in other communities, they are buying up all these vacation rentals
and offering them. Are you going to put these big brand names of resorts under this same
type of MOU so that they cannot be buying up houses in our agricultural or residential areas.
These are beautiful non-VDA areas. When you look at where they have them in other
countries and other locations, they are in these very young spots that currently are what we
are trying to stop. They have very deep pockets. What I do not want to see is that this small
business enterprise gets taken away from people that we do not want it to happen to only to
be put in the pockets of very large corporations. That is important to us, because it is not
fair. I just want to make that comment that TVRs and the resorts pay the "lion's share" of
taxes. The reason that people, regular residents pay a thousand dollars a year in taxes, and
that might still be a lot to pay, but it does not nearly cover the cost of what the County
government offers all of those homes. We have to recognize that this is what subsidizes all
of the rest of us. A very few of the vacation rentals are turning over into long-term rentals
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for people who are established residents. Can you comment on that? Then, I have one more
statement or question.
Mr. Hull: As to a specific resort conglomerate buying up
vacation rentals and putting houses on the market as a vacation rental, insofar as the resort
is owning and advertising a vacation rental in the designated VDA, they are free to do it,
right? Just as any layperson is free to do so, so is a resort corporation. If a resort corporation
is buying up houses in the non-VDA area, that do not have non-conforming use certificates
and they are advertising them, we will go after them just as much as we go after individual
vacation rental owners. We actually crunched the numbers as far as the amount of zoning
compliance notices and vacation rentals that we shut down, and looking at the past few years,
we pulled a number of roughly three hundred (300) units that we shut down. Over one
hundred (100) of them went into long-term rental usage. Not all of them. Some of them
stayed and some went into long-term rentals. Once we shut down an illegal vacation rental,
not all of them go into long-term use, but we can say that many of them actually do.
Councilmember Cowden: That is good. I have met many new people here
who just moved to the island and have mostly been just in my anecdotal experience, rentals,
but it is a group contributing to our economy. My last point is building on what
Councilmember DeCosta said about mauka to makai access and the Planning Department is
highly aware of how passionate I am about retaining our ability to have access. We need to
make the change and I believe that it takes intergovernmental agency cooperation to protect
the public trust. We have been losing the public trust. The outcome of losing that public
trust is the escalating value of these properties. When we have properties worth tens of
millions of dollars, they are buying privacy and exclusivity. They do not want dogs running
through their property. I want dogs to be able to run through their property. Do you have a
response about that? I am not expecting one, because you just answered it. It is complex,
but it is a priority for me. I think it is a priority for our community. It is really important to
keep the escalation of property values down as they are overwhelming our community.
Mr. Hull: Absolutely, Councilmember Cowden.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: On page 79 where all of the positions are. Of your
five (5) vacant positions, two (2) are dollar-funded, and one is six-month short-funded. The
other two (2) are more recent vacancies. On the Vacancy Report it says that there is no
activity. What are your plans to fill Position 2027, which is the Long-Range Planner III
position? Is that something that could be an in-house promotion? What is the status for
filling that position?
Mr. Hull: That is next to fill on our docket. Right now, we
also have the Planning Commission Secretary who retired. She was a stalwart member of
our staff and really was the gears behind the Planning Commission. Given the amount of
work that goes into the Planning Commission and the fact that we are holding things together
with duct tape right now quite honestly, filling that position is our priority. We have
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advertised for the Planning Commission Secretary position and we anticipate closing the
application deadline on April 12. As soon as we have that whole process spun up, we
anticipate moving and looking to fill that Planner III position.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Evslin.
Councilmember Evslin: Thank you for the presentation and
congratulations on the good job on all the successes over the last two (2) years. With the
MOUs with VRBO and Airbnb, previous to that, you were contracting with Host Compliance
to monitor the internet listings to identify illegal listings. I do not see anything in here for
that contract in your budget. Are you still contracting with them? Is there still a need to
monitor it or does the MOU solve most of your problems?
Mr. Hull: The MOUs help us remove illegal operators. It
does not mean it erases it all. There are other platforms to manage that and we will have a
need for Host Compliance, albeit a smaller need. In the VRBO and Airbnb bracket, we will
direct the contract to include monitoring those with smaller platforms and operations. We
still anticipate using Host Compliance in the future, but at a smaller level. The original
contract was roughly $40,000 and we have been able to reduce that down to $23,000 and that
money comes out of our enforcement account. If we do not shut down illegal vacation rentals,
it is essentially revenues from illegal vacation rental fines that we funnel back into
enforcement and specifically that is where we get the money from.
Councilmember Evslin: As far as the trend of illegal vacation rentals, has
it declined?
Mr. Hull: Can you repeat that?
Councilmember Evslin: Do you have any data available on the declining
trend of illegal rental units? How many did Host Compliance find initially, compared to how
many you estimate are still out there now?
Mr. Hull: The trend of illegal operations drastically
dropped. I want to say it is because of our enforcement process, but quite honestly, it is due
to the closure of the island due to the pandemic. We are not able to track that really for this
year. We have come across a few illegal vacation rentals that we have shut down. For the
most part, the industry itself shut down in response to the pandemic and our restrictions on
travel. There are not many changes from the last report that I gave to you right before the
pandemic hit. You saw a lot of mainland buyers buying properties, moving here to telework,
and that fact is not a secret. We are all aware that the real estate market is booming. We
anticipate some of those individuals who buy the properties to stay and we anticipate many
moving back to the mainland or their places of origin, maintaining the homes. Many of the
owners may be unaware of the requirements needed to put their home into a vacation rental
usage. We are anticipating this given the possible small exodus in the near future here. Our
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team is ready for that to possibly happen. We hope it does not happen and people do not
break the law. Because they are new owners who do not necessarily know all the rules of
vacation rentals, we anticipate it happening and expect a small spike in the next four (4) to
five (5) months if the COVID-19 numbers stay down. We are anticipating that spike and can
get you the numbers of how we are responding to it, if you will.
Councilmember Evslin: It would be good to be kept up-to-date on your
enforcement efforts and any data that you have to share. Thank you.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: Of those people who stepped out of the visitor
industry TVR during the pandemic, how many do you think will come back and ask for their
permits back? Or do they automatically get their permit back? What is our process going
forward to ensure that we can have a better monitoring system of these people that were in
the TVR industry who stepped out because of the pandemic? If there was no one renting it,
do we just give them back their operational permit to get back into business?
Mr. Hull: With the vacation rental industry and how they
function, you have those that are in the VDA. That includes Po`ipu, Princeville, and the
Coconut Coast. These are where TVRs are supposed to be done. There are roughly three
thousand five hundred (3,500) to four thousand (4,000) operators. They can operate
whenever they want. Those people do not have to come back to us for a permit. They can
operate as a TVR if they went out of the industry during the pandemic. They can spin it right
back up, start advertising, and start taking guests. For the nonconforming folks, there are
roughly four hundred fifty (450) of them and they are all going through the annual renewal
process, as required. We have not really run into many hiccups with that renewal process.
They have to come back every year to apply for maintenance of that status and it was in their
best interest to apply for renewal, even though they were not operation, because they did not
want to possibly lose that certificate for the future. As we watch and open our county up to
the Safe Travel Program yesterday, as we watch more tourists come back, we are obviously
going to see more vacation rentals open up. Many of them are legal and there will be a
handful of illegal ones that pop up. With the MOU that we have with Airbnb and VRBO,
almost all of them are legal because they kicked the ones that are not off of their site. The
websites represent 70% to 80% of the market share on Kauai. Before they kick them off,
they will give us the information and we can issue a notice of violation to shut them down.
We are not trying to be punitive, but we want to take that information to shut them down if
they have not yet already.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you, Ka`aina.
Committee Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any further questions for the Planning
Department? This is our last department for the day. If not, thank you all again for the very
informative review. At this time, I would like to recess the Departmental Budget Reviews.
We will reconvene at 9:00 a.m. on Thursday, April 8, 2021, when we will have the reviews for
the Transportation Agency, Housing Agency, Agency on Elderly Affairs, Office of the County
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Auditor, and the Office of the County Clerk. Based on the remaining departments and our
ability to submit follow-up questions in writing, I do not believe that Budget Call-Backs will
be necessary. I have made the decision to cancel all of our Budget Call-Backs. Those would
be days that are not scheduled. If we had burning questions for the Administration,we would
post a meeting again to come back and ask additional questions. We have not had a Call-Back
day in the last six (6) years and I do not think that it will be necessary now. If we have any
questions, we can still submit the questions in writing and get the answers back prior to the
Supplemental Budget Communication coming to us. Thank you.
There being no objections, the meeting recessed at 12:25 p.m.