HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/19/2020 Public hearing minutes on BILL 2774 PUBLIC HEARING
FEBRUARY 19, 2020
A public hearing of the Council of the County of Kaua`i was called to order by
KipuKai Kuali`i, Chair, Housing & Intergovernmental Relations Committee, on
Wednesday, February 19, 2020, at 1:57 p.m., at the Council Chambers, 4396 Rice
Street, Suite 201, Historic County Building, Lihu`e, and the presence of the following
was noted:
Honorable Arthur Brun
Honorable Mason K. Chock
Honorable Felicia Cowden
Honorable Luke A. Evslin
Honorable Ross Kagawa
Honorable KipuKai Kuali`i
Honorable Arryl Kaneshiro
The Clerk read the notice of the public hearing on the following:
"Bill No. 2774 — A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDING
CHAPTER 7A, KAUAI COUNTY CODE 1987, AS AMENDED, RELATING
TO THE HOUSING POLICY FOR THE COUNTY OF KAUAI,"
which was ordered to print by the Council of the County of Kaua`i on
January 29, 2020, and published in The Garden Island newspaper on
February 5, 2020.
The following communications were received for the record:
1. Miranda, Michael, dated February 18, 2020
2. Shigemoto, Tom, dated February 18, 2020
The hearing proceeded as follows:
SCOTT K. SATO, Deputy County Clerk: We received two (2) written
testimony and have no registered speakers.
JOANN A. YUKIMURA: Good afternoon, Committee Chair Kuali`i,
Council Chair Kaneshiro, and members of the Council. Thank you for this
opportunity to testify. Mahalo to Council Chair Kaneshiro and Councilmember
Kuali`i for introducing Bill No. 2774, designed I believe to update and improve the
County Housing Law, which is Ordinance No. 860. The Law is a very important tool
to address affordable housing in this County. It is very important that it is updated.
In fact, the policy in our recently adopted General Plan says that it is one of the
keys..."A fair and effective ordinance...the policy is one of the keys to addressing our
affordable housing crisis." The past history of affordable housing on Kaua`i shows
that of the two thousand six hundred (2,600) plus units that were built between 1975
and 2019, forty percent (40%)were required by zoning condition. Thank you for doing
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that. I have written testimony which I will pass out after I talk so that I can get your
full attention now. I want to focus on four (4) main areas. I agree with many of the
things proposed in the Bill. These are the areas I want to focus on: (1) permanent
affordability, (2) the opportunity of the land and infrastructure in lieu instead of just
land in lieu, (3) the guard against loopholes which can come up in the alternatives
that a developer will have if they are not carefully defined, and (4) the exemptions for
the town cores in Lihu`e, Kalaheo, and Koloa, which is exempting a lot of potential
housing units. Regarding permanent affordability, it is great that the Bill proposes
to go from twenty (20) to fifty (50) years, but it is not enough. Fifty (50) years is
three (3) generations. This means that a developer now getting a permit and an
obligation to build,those houses will be going into the market when the grandchildren
of millennials are looking for housing. That is how short the time is. We thought
thirty (30) years was long. If Koa`e had been thirty (30) years, we would not feel as
good about it as it is now perpetually affordable. Land and infrastructure as an option
is really, really important as long as it is the proper land. The ordinance should spell
that out. The exemption of in lieu land and in lieu fees, we have seen it. In Kiahuna,
they gave us two million dollars ($2,000,000), we never saw housing units from it.
Please beware.
Committee Chair Kuali`i: That is your time so you will have three (3)
more minutes later.
Ms. Yukimura: Thank you.
Mr. Sato: The next speaker is Kurt Bosshard.
KURT BOSSHARD: Briefly, as I have expressed previously my
support for the amendment and particularly, I have addressed and sent an E-mail
that asks that Section 7A-1.4.2(b) be amended to allow for some discretion to the
Housing Director to determine whether or where an on-site reserve of an area for
required infrastructure may limit attaining such maximum density and where the
developer has made a good faith effort to attain such maximum density, a
determination as to whether a project has met this requirement, that being of
building to maximum density has met the requirement. The Housing Director would
have a small amount of discretion to determine what maximum density was and
whether the need for on-site infrastructure might prevent in the case of the housing
that we are looking at building, say there were thirty (30) units that was the
maximum density if you had to do the sewer and the drainage and it took up the space
on the property and you could not feasibly meet the thirty (30) so you ended up with
twenty eight (28) that that would be considered maximum density if the Housing
Director so determined. If you do not have this kind of discretion with the Housing
Director, which I think we do not have now, the person who wants to build this
housing has to go back through the Council and there is a variance process. Who
knows how long that takes. I think there is a general sense about these kinds of
smaller projects, that they need to be built in short order, because the money is
borrowed. People who want to build thirty (30) units like we do, this is in the
opportunity zone in Koloa, they would have to move because there is a requirement
that the money be expended within a certain period of time. You have run through
this before with other developments. If you put in that kind of variance process, it
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eliminates the security that the developer has that he is going to meet those deadlines
and he will pull out of that. I am not going to burden you with anymore of my
presence. I am done. I do have what I wrote though and I do not know if you all
received it. I will give it to your staff.
Committee Chair Kuali`i: Is there anyone in the audience wishing to
testify? Anyone else? So for a second time?
Ms. Yukimura: Thank you. On the issue of permanent
affordability, in fifty (50) years, if we are faced with several Courtyards at Waipouli,
that is the situation that you have to think about. The world really like Kaua`i and
there is a lot of people who like housing. People are coming to Hawai`i for all kinds
of reasons. Even to establish citizenship for their newborn. If you do not have some
restrictions, we will have the same situation or worse than we have today. It is like
kicking the can down into the next generation. As far as the opportunity for land and
infrastructure...as you know the default position or requirement is turnkey housing,
thirty percent (30%) of the market units. If we could say that instead a developer
gives land and offsite infrastructure, that pretty much cuts his bill in half and it gives
us the land in fee so that we do not have the problem, we have automatic permanent
affordability. Then we take on as we have done at Koa`e, the responsibility of building
units. The same thing at Pa'anau Village, in the last phase. Kukui`ula donated the
land with the infrastructure. Even the first phase. We built the units. You have
permanent affordability and their burden is not as great. I would like to see that be
the default position. You have to make sure that the land you receive meets our
Planning policies. It is infill, it is close to the market housing and industry and jobs.
You have to make sure there are no hazardous wastes...that it can be feasibly built
on. You have to do all the things that our Housing Agency did in approving the
donation of land and offsite infrastructure at Koa`e. That should be in the Bill itself.
The law. There is a fee in lieu that is an option for a developer. In Section 15 you
have the land in lieu. I would urge you to...just having land, you could spend years
before you see any housing. Land and offsite infrastructure. Lastly, on the
exemptions, I would like someone to tell me how many built-out units are at build-out
we are exempting. We should know that. If in fact they can make affordable housing,
then it should be easier for them to abide by and meet the percentage required.
Otherwise, gentrification in town cores is a real problem. We need to anticipate that.
Committee Chair Kuali`i: Thank you very much. Seeing no further
testifiers, this public hearing is now adjourned.
There being no further testimony, the public hearing adjourned at 2:10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
SCOTT K. SATO
Deputy County Clerk
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