HomeMy WebLinkAbout08/05/2020 Public hearing minutes on BILL 2775 D2 PUBLIC HEARING
AUGUST 5, 2020
A public hearing of the Council of the County of Kaua`i was called to order by
Arryl Kaneshiro, Chair, Committee of the Whole, on Wednesday, August 5, 2020, at
8.32 a.m., at the Council Chambers, 4396 Rice Street, Suite 201, Historic County
Building, Lihu`e, and the presence of the following was noted.
Honorable Mason K Chock (via remote technology)
Honorable Felicia Cowden
Honorable Luke A Evslin (via remote technology)
Honorable Ross Kagawa
Honorable KipuKai Kuali`i
Honorable Arryl Kaneshiro
Excused. Honorable Arthur Brun*
JADE K. FOUNTAIN-TANIGAWA, County Clerk. Please note that
today's public hearings will be called to order pursuant to Governor Ige's
Supplementary Emergency Proclamation dated March 16, 2020, Sixth
Supplementary Emergency Proclamation dated April 25, 2020, Seventh
Supplementary Emergency Proclamation dated May 5, 2020, Eighth Supplementary
Emergency Proclamation dated May 18, 2020, Ninth Supplementary Emergency
Proclamation dated June 10, 2020, and Tenth Supplementary Emergency
Proclamation dated July 17, 2020.
The Clerk read the notice of the public hearing on the following
"Bill No 2775, Draft 2 — A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDING
CHAPTER 22, KAUAI COUNTY CODE 1987, AS AMENDED, BY
ESTABLISHING A NEW ARTICLE RESTRICTING THE USE AND SALE OF
POLYSTYRENE FOAM FOOD SERVICE CONTAINERS,"
which was ordered to print by the Council of the County of Kaua`i on July 8, 2020,
and published in The Garden Island newspaper on July 17, 2020.
Ms Fountain-Tamgawa Chair, we received sixty (60) pieces of written
testimony in support of this Bill
The following communications were received for the record•
1. Anderson, Michael and Lea, dated August 4, 2020
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2 Anderson, Victoria (B EACH ), dated July 17, 2020
3 Arruda, Kiilani, dated August 3, 2020
4. Austin,Jessica, dated August 3, 2020
5 Bernal, Libirty, datedAugust 4, 2020
6 Burrell, Pamela, dated July 8, 2020
7. Click, Christopher Drew, dated July 7, 2020
8 Dallain, Charles, dated August 3, 2020
9 Daubert, Thomas, dated July 7, 2020
10.DeLisle, Nicole, dated August 4, 2020
11 Doepke, Kaila, dated August 4, 2020
12 Forster, Lani, dated July 8, 2020
13 Frazer, Suzanne, dated July 8, 2020
14 Furuike, Kelly, dated July 7, 2020
15.Gauba, Mary, dated July 7, 2020
16 Goodson, Joshua, dated August 3, 2020
17 Hsu, June, dated August 4, 2020
18 Hubbard, Evelin, dated August 3, 2020
19 Hughes, Samantha, dated August 4, 2020
20 Ing, Ileana, dated August 3, 2020
21 Jordans, Ruta, dated July 31, 2020
22 Jordans, Ruta, dated July 31, 2020
23.Kahn, Alex, dated August 3, 2020
24 Khan, Mara, dated July 8, 2020
25 Koufis, Ahna, dated August 4, 2020
26.Le Sueur, Alanna, dated July 8, 2020
27.McRoberts, Jonathan, dated August 4, 2020
28.Melead, Donna, dated August 3, 2020
29.Miike, Laulea, dated August 4, 2020
30.Miles, Cambria, dated August 4, 2020
31 Molnar, Haley, dated August 3, 2020
32 Nelson, Rachel, dated August 3, 2020
33 Nice, Maha, dated August 4, 2020
34 Olry, Michele, dated July 7, 2020
35 Olsen, Danna, dated August 4, 2020
36 O'Rourke, Karlie, dated August 4, 2020
37 Osterer, Lorraine, dated July 7, 2020
38 Otsuki, Dean, dated July 8, 2020
39 Owens, Joshua, dated July 8, 2020
40.Pahs, Alicia, dated July 8, 2020
41.Paterson, Mary, dated August 4, 2020
42 Peterson, Gordon, dated August 3, 2020
43 Pollock, Sherry, dated August 4, 2020
44 Price, Sandy, dated August 3, 2020
45 Quesenberry, Jordyn, dated July 8, 2020
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46 Ramseth, Aurora, dated August 4, 2020
47.Rasman, Larissa and Gary, dated August 3, 2020
48.Reyonlds, David, dated July 8, 2020
49 Simmons, Valarie, dated August 4, 2020
50 Spade, Linda, dated August 3, 2020
51.Surface, Danielle, dated August 3, 2020
52 Tom, Sarah, dated August 3, 2020
53 Tomlinson, Brianna, dated August 4, 2020
54 Usinger, Travis, dated August 4, 2020
55.Uyeno, Justin, dated August 3, 2020
56 Valhuerdi, Nicole, dated August 4, 2020
57.Vernon, Amanda, dated July 8, 2020
58 White, Jessica, dated July 7, 2020
59 Wiedner, Barbara, dated July 7, 2020
60 Wollin, Pearl and Bontje, Adrian, dated August 4, 2020
This hearing proceeded as follows.
Council Chair Kaneshiro. We have five (5)registered speakers via Zoom
We are going to start with Victoria Anderson. Again, the public hearing rules;
typically we give three (3) minutes and three (3) minutes, but this time we will just
give you the full six (6) minutes, if you do not use your full six (6) minutes that will
be the only time you can speak. You do not need to use the entire six (6) minutes, but
it will just be one (1) time to speak on it. If you can see the light on our side, it will
turn green when you start, yellow when there is thirty (30) seconds left, and red when
the six (6) minutes are up. So with that, Victoria please state your name for the
record and you can start.
VICTORIA ANDERSON (via remote technology) Aloha Chair Kaneshiro,
Vice Chair, and Committee Members This is regarding Bill No 2775 I have
prepared remarks, so that I can stay within three (3) minutes, but please also refer
to my written testimony. I am Victoria Anderson, President of Beach Environmental
Awareness Campaign Hawai`i (B.E.A.C.H ). We are an all-volunteer nonprofit that
brings awareness and solutions to plastic marine debris. I am testifying in strong
support of this Bill, which bans the use and sale of food and drink containers made of
polystyrene foam in Kaua`i County. B.E.A.C.H. prefers the first draft of the Bill as it
has an earlier start date and does not include the requirement for biodegradable or
compostable containers The second draft contains confusing start dates, requires
only compostable alternatives, and includes the widely misused and misunderstood
word "biodegradeable " Polystyrene foam is one of the most harmful types plastic It
breaks into small pieces, is easily windblown, and is made with toxic chemicals
benzene and styrene, which cause cancer Benzene and styrene leach from these
containers when they come into contact with hot, oily, or acidic foods or drinks. When
polystyrene foam gets into the ocean it rapidly breaks into smaller pieces. This makes
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it impossible to cleanup It also means these pieces get eaten by plankton and small
fish, and this passes the toxic chemicals all the way through the food chain To
further strengthen this Bill, we would like to see the exemption for egg cartons and
meat trays removed and not allow polystyrene bait containers We have found many
of these littered around beaches during cleanups There is lots of good alternatives
to polystyrene containers made from sugarcane, cardboard, and metal Therefore, we
also recommend that the Committee include all the other non-plastic alternatives
that do not have a compostability certification to give restaurants and caterers more
options BEACH also encourages people to bring their own containers, whether it
is glass, stainless steel, or ceramic The cost of switching to a compostable container
is minimal. On Maui, restaurants passed this small cost on to consumers by charging
an additional twenty-five cents ($0 25) These restaurants found that they made
money from this change and the consumers were happy to get a safe food container
instead of one containing toxic chemicals When every county has the same laws, the
cost of alternative containers will go down. Polystyrene containers are just plain
harmful to the environment Plastic foam lasts forever It is made from
nonrenewable fossil fuel resources and it contains dangerous toxic chemicals. By
contrast, compostable containers are made of renewable plant resources and can be
fully composted back into healthy soil. In conclusion, all of the other counties in
Hawaii have now passed laws banning polystyrene foam. Please take similar action
to protect the health of Kaua`i's residents, marine life, and the environment Thank
you so much for this opportunity to provide testimony in response to support of this
Bill
Council Chair Kaneshiro. Thank you, Victoria Next up, we have Dean
Otsuki.
DEAN OTSUKI (via remote technology) Hi, my name is Dean Otsuki
Aloha Chair Kaneshiro, Vice Chair Kagawa, and Committee Members I am writing
in strong support of Bill No 2775, which prohibits the use and sale of polystyrene
disposable food and drink containers on Kaua`i. Manufacturing polystyrene foam is
both harmful to people and the environment. Polystyrene foam containers contain
the chemical styrene, which leaches into hot food and drink. Acidic food and drinks
also causes styrene to migrate out of the foam and into the food and the drink The
styrene has been linked to cancer, vision and hearing loss, impaired memory and
concentration, and nervous system effects Polystyrene is made from petroleum that
contains benzene, which is a carcinogenic Styrene is another chemical in styrofoam
that the National Toxicology Program lists as, "Reasonably anticipated to be a human
carcinogen " Workers in the polystyrene plastic industry are known to have higher
incidences of cancer and suffer adverse effects from inhaling styrene There are
better, healthier alternatives like compostable containers for polystyrene food
containers on the market today that do not have toxic chemicals in them like styrene
Compostable containers are one hundred percent (100%)plant based, so if they do get
into the marine environment they do not harm marine life as compostables are
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non-toxic Another alternative to polystyrene foam containers is to bring your own
reusable container. Polystyrene foam containers are very light and can easily blow
into the ocean where marine life can ingest them. Plastic in the ocean accumulates
persistent organic pollutants (POPs), such as DDT, DDE, PCB's, and dioxins on the
surface of the plastic up to a million times more than the surrounding sea water
making the plastic very toxic. When marine life ingests marine debris, these POPs
migrate to the fatty tissues of the animals These POPs bioaccumulate up the food
chain, where the food chain including humans, get the most chemicals POPs are
endocrine disruptors that can interfere with the endocrine or hormone system
Endocrine disruptors can cause cancerous tumors, birth defects, and other
developmental disorders Please pass Bill No. 2775, to help keep our ocean
environment clean and protect residents and visitors from the toxic chemicals that
come from polystyrene foam. Thank you for your consideration for my testimony.
Council Chair Kaneshiro• Thank you, Dean Next up, we have Suzanne
Frazer.
SUZANNE FRAZER (via remote technology)• Aloha Chair Kaneshiro,
Vice Chair Kagawa, and Committee Members My name is Suzanne Frazer and I am
speaking in very strong support of Bill No. 2775, which bans the use and the sale of
polystyrene foam food and drink containers in Kaua`i County I prefer Draft 1 of the
Bill with the earlier start date of January 1, 2021. Also, I am not really keen on the
word "biodegradable" in Draft 2, because of the misuse of that word In fact, it has
been so misused in a greenwashing way where they actually put one percent (1%)
biodegradable content into a plastic thing and the rest is ninety-nine percent (99%)
plastic, which means that only one percent (1%) breaks down and the other
ninety-nine percent (99%) does not, and yet they have labeled these things
biodegradable. Even sometimes one hundred percent (100%) biodegradable on the
packaging, which is a he. The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has had to warn
these companies about that or take them to court. Unfortunately, a lot of companies
are still getting away with this and it is irresponsible and the best thing to do to avoid
that snafu is just to take out the word "biodegradable" and not use it California
actually banned it in legislation for the whole State, so people cannot sell products
with the word biodegradable on it I would just suggest to avoid any loopholes by
taking that one out. Also, in regards to compostable alternatives, there are other
alternatives that are non-plastic, but they do not have an ASTM standard such as
those made of paper, cardboard, tin foil, and so on I think allowing food vendors to
have a wider choice of alternatives would be helpful in making that transition away
from plastic containers I know my testimony is long, so I am just going to point out
a few different things as to why it is really important that we ban polystyrene foam
containers. This kind of material, polystyrene, according to one of the top scientists
in the world, Doctor Anthony Andrady, he has said that polystyrene foam is the only
type of plastic that breaks down faster in sea water than on land, which means that
when this polystyrene gets into the ocean, you have an even bigger problem when it
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is into smaller pieces, that makes it bioavailable for the base of the food chain to
ingest Meaning that little fish can ingest these polystyrene foam pieces. In fact, we
have filmed fish eating styrofoam in the water, little, tiny pieces of it—they cannot
eat bigger pieces, they eat the little pieces Why that is such a problem is that the
little fish are what the bigger fish eat, so when people are eating fish, they are
actually eating the chemicals that are coming through the food chain from plankton
and little fish, all the way up. That is one of the ways that polystyrene foam harms
humans, but there are many other ways because this type of container should never
have been allowed I do not know how it has been allowed to be used all these years
because it is actually toxic, it contains the chemicals, styrene, and benzene; both
carcinogenic. They affect the brain, nervous system, red blood cells, liver, kidney,
and so on. Really, it is appalling that sick people in hospitals are eating out of this,
and little children in schools, they are eating out of styrofoam So the sooner the
better, this gets banned Of course the other counties have already taken strong
action and banned this material already for food and drinks. What goes on is that
when you put hot drinks or hot food into polystyrene foam or even oily or acidic, the
heat, the oil, and the acid causes the release of the chemical styrene into the food and
drink Scientists have actually measured the weight of the container or cup before
adding hot coffee, then weighed the cup after the drink is taken out, and the cup has
lost weight because styrene is leaching out of that cup into the liquid Unfortunately,
I think it is one hundred percent (100%) of humans to have styrene in their bodies,
which is terrible and it does affect our health So for that reason, please ban
polystyrene foam containers for all food and drinks, as soon as possible That would
be a great action, which is healthy not only for all the residents, visitors, but also
marine life, and environment Thank you very much for this opportunity to give
testimony in strong support of Bill No 2775
Council Chair Kaneshiro• Thank you, Suzanne. That is all the
testimony we have for today
There being no further testimony, the public hearing adjourned at 8.46 a m
Respectfully submitted,
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JADE K. FOUNTAIN-TANIGAWA
County Clerk
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*Beginning with the March 11, 2020 Council Meeting and until further notice,
Councilmember Arthur Brun will not be present due to U S v Arthur Brun et al ,
Cr No 20-00024-DKW (United States District Court), and therefore will be noted as
excused (i.e., not present)