HomeMy WebLinkAbout06/16/2021 Council minutes COUNCIL MEETING
JUNE 16, 2021
The Council Meeting of the Council of the County of Kaua`i was called to order
by Council Chair Arryl Kaneshiro at the Council Chambers, 4396 Rice Street,
Suite 201, Lihu`e, Kaua`i, on Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 8:31 a.m., after which the
following Members answered the call of the roll:
Honorable Bernard P. Carvalho, Jr.
Honorable Mason K. Chock
Honorable Felicia Cowden
Honorable Bill DeCosta
Honorable Luke A. Evslin
Honorable KipuKai Kuali`i
Honorable Arryl Kaneshiro
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Good morning. Today's meeting will be
conducted pursuant to Governor Ige's Supplementary Emergency Proclamations with
the most recent relating to the Sunshine Law being his Twenty-First Supplementary
Emergency Proclamation dated June 7, 2021. For the record, we have no registered
speakers today for any of our agenda items.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA.
Councilmember Kuali`i moved for approval of the agenda, as circulated,
seconded by Councilmember Cowden.
(No written testimony was received and no registered speakers requested to
testify regarding this agenda item.)
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any questions or is there any
discussion from the Members?
The motion for approval of the agenda, as circulated, was then put, and
unanimously carried.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: The motion is carried. Next item.
MINUTES of the following meeting of the Council:
June 2, 2021 Council Meeting
Councilmember Kuali`i moved to approve the Minutes, as circulated, seconded
by Councilmember Cowden.
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Council Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any questions or is there any
discussion on this item from the Members?
(No written testimony was received and no registered speakers requested to
testify regarding this agenda item.)
The motion to approve the Minutes, as circulated, was then put, and
unanimously carried.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: The motion is carried.
INTERVIEW:
CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION:
V. Pamai Cano — Term ending 12/31/2021
ELLEN CHING, Boards & Commissions Administrator (via remote
technology): Good morning, Ellen Ching, Administrator
for Boards & Commissions. I am pleased to introduce to you, Pamai Cano, the Human
Resources (HR) Manager for Kaua`i Coffee. As the manager, she directs, supervises,
and coordinates all HR functions. This includes ensuring compliance with all policies,
union contracts, as well as State and Federal laws and regulations. In other words,
she deals with the "soup to nuts" of HR. Pamai is an established leader in the Human
Resources field. She brings a wealth of knowledge that spans twenty-three (23) years
in a variety of industries. First starting with the Grand Hyatt Resort & Spa, Ke`aki
Technologies, and Harris Corporation at Pacific Missile Range Facilities (PMRF), and
Koloa Landing. She is a proud graduate of Kamehameha Schools and Santa Clara
University, where she earned her Bachelor's Degree in Economics. In her free time
she likes to decompress by exercising, reading a magazine, or watching television.
She is a news junkie and her passion is noodles, saimin, Chinese noodles, or pasta,
"000dles of noodles." Human Resources is a dynamic field. Every year there are many
changes that must be incorporated coming from State and Federal regulatory changes
and court rulings. I look forward to Pamai joining the Civil Service Commission and
I am grateful for her willingness to volunteer her time and talent. Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Thank you for the introduction. Pamai, do
you have anything to add to that?
V. PAMAI CANO (via remote technology): I am happy to be here this
morning and looking forward to answering any questions you may have for me.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Thank you. Are there any questions from the
Members? Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: Hi, Pamai. How are you? It was nice working
with you some time ago on the Work Force Investment Board and the Youth Council.
Having that experience with you, I understand that you very well know and grasp all
of the types of business that would be before the Civil Service Commission. Have you
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worked with unions at the Grand Hyatt Resort & Spa? Do you have union employees
there?
Ms. Cano: Yes. I have worked with Local 5,
International and Longshore Warehouse Union (ILWU), International Brotherhood
of Electrical Workers (IBEW), and I actually worked with Hawaii Government
Employees Association (HGEA), and United Public Workers (UPW) right after the
hurricane, I spent time working at Kauai Veterans Memorial Hospital (KVMH).
Councilmember Cowden: Yes. We are thankful that you are willing to
do this. What motivated you to decide to help us?
Ms. Cano: To be honest, it was the power of suggestion.
Someone asked me to consider it. As you know from having served on the Youth
Council, I am open-minded and I really believe that in our community, especially, all
of us have to do what we can, so I am very open-minded to it and willing.
Councilmember Cowden: Thank you so much.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any other questions from the
Members for Pamai? Is there any discussion on Pamai? I just want to say thanks
Pamai. I have known you a long time. I did not know you graduated from Santa
Clara University, which is the same University that my wife attended. I have known
Pamai for a long time, ever since "back in the day" she was really close to Aunty
Stella, who I was really close to and I have always had a great relationship with
Pamai. I think she will be awesome for this position. Council Vice Chair Chock.
Councilmember Chock: I want to thank you, Pamai, for volunteering
and providing some service to the County. I appreciate your contribution and look
forward to working with you in any capacity, so if there is anything we can do just let
me know. Imua.
Ms. Cano: Absolutely, thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Carvalho.
Councilmember Carvalho: Pamai, you bring a wealth of experience to the
table. We have "talked story" many times and it is great to see you again. Welcome
aboard and I know you are going to be a big asset to the Civil Service Commission, so
thank you for stepping to the plate. I look forward to "talking story" with you later.
Mahalo.
Ms. Cano: Thank you, me as well.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: I just want to reiterate what my fellow
Councilmembers said, thank you so much and we are excited to have you aboard.
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Ms. Cano: Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Is there anyone else? If not, thank you Pamai,
we will be voting on this at our next meeting.
Ms. Cano: Okay. Have a great day. Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Thank you. Next up is Communications.
COMMUNICATIONS:
C 2021-139 Communication (05/13/2021) from the Life's Choices Kaua`i
Coordinator, requesting Council approval to apply for, receive, and expend grant
funds in an amount from $25,000.00 up to $75,000.00, from the Motion for Justice
initiative by the Vera Institute of Justice. This grant funding will support plans to
re-shape prosecution in the Office of the Prosecuting Attorney by re-centering the
focus on racial equity, establish criteria to accomplish a measurable reduction in
racial disparities, increase understanding of the history of racial injustice within the
criminal justice system among deputies, advocates, and administrative staff,
implement a people-centered program that respects and promotes a focus on
non-white values/history, and focuses on restorative justice and ho oponopono
(a Hawaiian cultural practice focused on healing and accountability).
Councilmember Kuali`i moved to approve C 2021-139, seconded by
Councilmember Cowden.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: We received written testimony from Young
Women's Christian Association (YWCA). Do we have any questions from the Members
on this item? Councilmember Cowden. I am not sure if Justin or Theresa is going to
be speaking on it. Just give us a brief overview of why we are going for this grant, what
the grant does, then, we will open it up for any further questions.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
THERESA C. KOKI, Life Choices Kaua`i Coordinator (via remote technology):
Good morning, Council Chair and
Councilmembers. Can you hear me?
Councilmember Cowden: Yes.
Ms. Koki: We have this opportunity to apply for this
Motion for Justice Grant. It aligns with the vision and mission of the Office of the
Prosecuting Attorney, Justin F. Kollar. We are very fortunate to be partnering with a
lot agencies out there, mainly Hale `Opio and of course the YWCA, which always has
this racial equity. Now, we are looking at the criminal legal system where a lot of our
data shows that our Native Hawaiian population, even our youth, are arrested, or
adults are incarcerated, so we want to work in reducing that. Basically, this grant is
going to be used towards education and other things, but our partner is Hale `Opio. We
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are going to be using their program. Also, we are going to be working with adults in the
Office of the Prosecuting Attorney.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: I was really excited to see this effort. I have
spoken with and called attention to a number of our ki ai, who are very concerned about
not being treated fairly. Is there going to be training of prosecutors? I think what we
need more of is to have training of police officers and prosecutors to understand how
history was not taught correctly for a long time. Now that we have translated many of
these documents, we have a better understanding. Is that part of the vision of this?
Ms. Koki: Yes. We are training our police officers and the
prosecutors who are all on-board with this movement, if you will, and the vision of the
Office of the Prosecuting Attorney, but there will be training. Basically, this grant will
be focusing majority of the funds towards training.
Councilmember Cowden: Will there be a committee? As Committee
Chair for Public Safety & Human Services Committee, I would love to see more of an
ad hoc advisory from the community that is disproportionately targeted. Routinely,
people will tell me how certain laws are applied against them, whereas, other laws are
not applied against whoever. Most of these conflicts are over land issues or is more
politics than crime. So they need to be handled criminally, where there should be some
sort of a civil violation of sorts. For example, quiet title to the land is a theft. It is a
theft in a way, so there is a whole lot of quiet title to the land,which creates generational
damage. When there is resistance, people get criminally charged. We saw that Office
of Hawaiian Affairs ) a study OHA didwhere we have a disproportionate amount of
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people of Hawaiian ancestry incarcerated or adjudicated. Then typically their sentences
are thirty percent(30%)longer than similar charges against other groups. The evidence
is overwhelming, that there is a deep need for this, and I am highly interested in being
kept apprised of or helping to bring people to the table who might be good to have in
this conversation, because I think it is anger that criminalizes so many of our high
capacity emerging generation. We really need to do some things rightfully, so I am
curious how this is going to be meaningfully expressed. Do you have any more
information on that?
Ms. Koki: The only thing I can say is that part of the
education is going to be focused on land, but it is going to be focused on non-serious
conduct crimes. Every grant has rules of what we need to do. We have met with them
a couple of times virtually. I am sure there is going to be a group of people, not
necessarily a committee that is going to sit there and have another meeting, but there
will be a group to plan this out. We have already met with Hale `Opio and have
discussed this with the YWCA, so we will make sure that we keep you informed and
included as the Public Safety & Human Services Committee Chair, Councilmember
Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay. I would like to make a suggestion. I will
send suggestions of who might be good to include, because if everyone who is included
has some official job where they are well paid and they are in a stable position where
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they are in alignment with the dominant culture, I think we will miss the mark. It is
really important that we have an inclusion of the people who are passionate about a
different perspective. So if we only have people who work for a State agency or a
nonprofit or something like that where they do not share the experience, I do not think
we will get the right outcome.
Ms. Koki: Okay. We will make note of it and I am sure
Justin is aware of community members who should be involved. But we will take your
suggestions as well. Thank you.
Councilmember Cowden: Great. Thank you. I will request a meeting.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Council Vice Chair Chock.
Councilmember Chock: Good morning, Theresa.
Ms. Koki: Good morning.
Councilmember Chock: Thank you for writing this, I appreciate it. It
is much needed and of course, I am very passionate about working with our youth,
particularly our kanaka, who are suffering. I wanted to get some clarity on one of the
aspects that is being written about ho oponopono. Is there a specific school or practice
that it is coming from? Is there a haku leading this particular effort? The only reason
why I ask, is that I am part of a group that is trying to preserve the practice in the last
five (5)years, so I am curious who I can connect with and collaborate with on that piece.
Ms. Koki: Please. We do not have anything yet, because
we did not want to plan too far, in case we did not get the grant. But please, we were
going to consult with you about that.
Councilmember Chock: Mahalo. Yes, I am happy to. I think it is really
important from a spiritual aspect being able to ground some of these needs for families.
I will mention, on Maui a judge that is within our pa has taken the lead at putting
together a more formal program. There are some emerging collaborations that we can
work on that can be very helpful. Particularly, 'Aha Kane has taken on that role. I will
circle back with you and hopefully we get this and we can move forward on it. Mahalo
nui.
Ms. Koki: Okay, thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Evslin.
Councilmember Evslin: Thank you, Theresa, Justin, and the entire
office for pursuing this grant, it really does seem admirable and certainly much needed.
In the grant application, it looks like one of the goals of the program says, "Reduce
systemic racial disparities by at least twenty percent (20%)." I am wondering, maybe
this is something that gets flushed out more during the process of working with the
Vera Institute of Justice, but I wonder if you had any more data or information of what
a twenty percent (20%) reduction looks like, what is that twenty percent (20%) actually
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measuring, is that incarceration rates and on what kind of timeframe are we talking
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about here? And the twenty percent (20%) goal is great, it certainly should be working
towards it, just wondering more about what it means.
Ms. Koki: I am not going to take credit for writing this
grant. I am going to defer that question to Jamie, who is our grant writer for the Office
of the Prosecuting Attorney. We all did a little, but she was the main person.
Councilmember Evslin: I am sorry. It was not in your folks'application,
it was in the description of what the program is hoping to achieve. On page 3 of the
campaign application.
JAMIE D. OLIVAS, Grant Coordinator (via remote technology): Aloha,
this is Jamie, Grant Coordinator. The grant application was combined with a bunch of
help from attorneys and Justin, our Prosecuting Attorney, so I am going to have to defer
the question and ask him to respond to that if you could have that written.
Councilmember Evslin: That would be great, no problem at all. My
guess is that it is something that would get flushed out as you go through the process.
It is okay if you folks do not have a firm answer on it right now.
Ms. Olivas: This is an initial application. Again, like
Theresa mentioned, we put it together really quickly and was not sure whether or not
we were going to get it granted. We had an initial meeting and tried our best to put it
together. So far, I have had one type of communication with them. My role, as far as
the grant is to gather the statistics and so that is what I am focusing on.
Councilmember Evslin: Great, thank you. Maybe just as a quick
follow-up, I know that part of this is to help improve data collection and statistics within
your folks' office. It would be great if at the end of the program, if you folks receive the
grant, that we could get an update on the statistics and some concrete goals for how
those are going to improve over time. Thank you.
Ms. Olivas: Yes.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Aloha. My question might be for follow-up, too.
When I was reading through this, there was a question that you answered as a part of
the grant about the biggest challenges for implementing the diversion program and how
you would address the challenge and it said, the Kaua`i Police Department (KPD) and
public school buy-in and decreasing implicit bias as the challenge. Then the"addressing
it" was to provide resources and trainings on implicit bias, equity, diversity, inclusion,
and belonging principals. Maybe I should already know this, but I was curious as to
what belonging principals was. That is something I can submit in writing and
follow-up if you do not have that right now. Thank you.
Like Councilmember Evslin, I am interested in seeing the data—seeing the
numbers before and after, as far as what this has accomplished. Maybe help us go after
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even further resources to continue doing the work as I think it is critically important.
Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Carvalho.
Councilmember Carvalho: I just had one question, Theresa. Would this
grant tie in to the Camp Agape Program for kids/youth in that particular area?
Ms. Koki: Since COVID-19, I believe the Camp Agape
Program has been cancelled, but like I mentioned earlier, we will have a lot of partners
participating in here. I am sure we could see if they wanted to partner when they come
back online. Also, I wanted to mention the assessment center plans for the treatment
center will be a big part of this, because that is where we have...instead of the kids
getting arrested and going to court, they will have a civil citation like they do with the
program on O`ahu, and have them go through programs like Hale `Opio's Teen Court
instead, so they do not have a mark on their record, or get sent to the Hawai`i Youth
Correctional Facility. The assessment center plans will play a big part in this
non-arresting of our children and having them have a civil citation and a referral to a
program that fits what crime, if you will, that they committed, or infraction.
Councilmember Carvalho: Okay. I look forward to more data and
statistics on those programs. Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: In your answers, when it says, "What do you
foresee is the biggest challenges to implementing this diversion program and how would
you address the challenge?" It says, "eliminate school resource officers from schools and
replace them with diversion counselors." So diversion counselors would not be a
uniformed police officer? Is that what this says and would it have a different structure?
Ms. Koki: Yes. That part of the grant was from Hale
`Opio's perspective. We have to both send in our expectations of this grant and those
are the plans that Vonn Ramos has for the Hale `Opio program. When we find out what
our budget is or what the amount of money that they are going to award us, because
they have already indicated that they will award Kaua`i with these funds at the
meetings we had prior to sending in the application. So we will see how far that funding
can go to have these changes in the schools.
Councilmember Cowden: What was KPD's reaction? It was during the
time when I was the Chair of the School Community Council at Kapa'a High School
when they started having the school resource officers.
Ms. Koki: I think right now, we do not have any in the
schools because of COVID-19. The way that COVID-19 has occupied KPD where they
have to be at the airport and do other things, so we do not have any school resource
officers. I know some people like it, because just having the uniform on campus makes
the kids know that they are safe, as well as less crime, less calls into dispatch, but at
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the same time, if the children get arrested and start going through the system, I think
diversion counselors are a good idea.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay. I have no objection to that at all. I was
just curious if the police were on page with it, but we can ask them too.
Ms. Koki: Again, we did not know if we were going to get
this grant or not, so we did not bring in the Chief of Police or the resource officers, but
this is Hale `Opio's idea on what they anticipate their biggest challenge and how they
are going to address the challenge.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay. I am very open for that and have
experience with children basically leaving school over a classroom temper tantrum that
ended up with an arrest. So it can go from something that should be easy to address to
something life problematic, so I can see where that would be a good suggestion.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any other questions from the
Members? Is there any final discussion on the item? Councilmember DeCosta.
There being no objections, the meeting was called back to order, and proceeded
as follows:
Councilmember DeCosta: Good morning, Theresa, nice to see you. I want
to say good morning to Jamie who is a friend of mine. I am very passionate about this
subject. I have been a teacher at Waimea High School for ten (10)years prior to coming
to district and I have seen the School Resource Officers (SRO's) on campus and they do
provide a very safe environment. Also, an environment to assist with our juvenile crime
and they are not always the ones making the arrests. I have seen them practice
counseling at the same time. "Big props" to our police department and our police
officers. I wanted to discuss our Kaua`i Police Activities League (K-PAL) and if any of
this grant will go towards that. I know K-PAL reaches our Native Hawaiian community
out towards Anahola and that area. The children were well taken care of when I was
coaching K-PAL. I believe Mark Ozaki was running it and Jeremy Makepa was
coaching Anahola. When reading this, it focuses on non-white values/history, I
specifically read it here, and the reduction in racial disparities. I think a lot of it starts
with what happens at home, how the parents perceive what is going on in the
community, and even as far as all of us adults sitting here today, it is how we treat each
other and how we role model the good behavior. So it should start with all of the adults
in our community. The grant is a great idea, but I want to speak to our constituents
out there, it is how we treat people regardless of the culture we come from. We use
respect from adults all the way down to children. I think that is a non-fundable grant.
It does not cost anything and I believe we set a better precedence for our youth growing
up on Kauai. Thank you, Theresa.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Is there anyone else? Councilmember Evslin.
Councilmember Evslin: I want to thank you folks again for pursuing
this grant, it is really important. I know that it is focused on injustice within the
criminal justice system, but when we are talking about systemic injustice there are
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issues at every level. If there are any opportunities for us, as policymakers, to be
engaged in this process with you folks, we could possibly be looking at other realms
outside of criminal justice system. I do not expect to be on any committees or anything,
but any opportunity for engagement or involvement, if you folks do go forward with this
grant, would be appreciated, because I think it is important to be looking at this from
every level and using whatever tools we might have at our disposal as Councilmembers.
Thank you again for pursuing this really important grant.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: I would want to echo what Councilmember
Evslin said. I think this is all different layers and I want to thank you for pursuing this
and I will say that I have a steady diet of people who are upset with the system for how
it is imbalanced to our Native Hawaiian community. So with each one of them that has
raised it to me this past week, I read this grant application and this agenda item and
there has been a pause, "Wow, really. Thank you." Is the reaction. So I am pleased
with the direction this takes. I am excited to help wherever I can and excited to help be
a bridge, because it is more than just learning how to be compliant with what is often
the path to success. It is important for all layers to be able to understand what is the
source of the frustration, and when people are understood it takes that emotional tone
of anger down a couple of notches. Theresa, you have been very involved for decades in
helping to stop addiction, which I see as the symptom and not the cause, and the cause
is systemic anger, so this is a step in the right direction and I thank you for that—Jamie,
Justin, all of you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Is there anyone else?
(Written testimony was received and no registered speakers requested to testify
regarding this agenda item.)
The motion to approve C 2021-139 was then put, and unanimously carried.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: The motion is carried. Next item.
C 2021-140 Communication (05/21/2021) from the Director of Economic
Development, requesting Council approval to apply for, receive, and expend State
funds, in the amount of $150,000.00, from the Hawai`i Tourism Authority, to be used
for expenditures focused on taking action related to the priorities of the Kauai
Destination Management Action Plan, and to indemnify the Hawai`i Tourism
Authority-State of Hawai`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i moved to approve C 2021-140, seconded by
Councilmember Carvalho.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any questions from the Members on
this item? Councilmember Cowden. We received one written testimony from the Kauai
Board of Realtors and we have no one to speak on this item.
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Councilmember Cowden: Nalani, thank you so much. I have been
pleased with the direction of the Kaua`i Destination Management Action Plan (DMAP).
I know that the State has threatened underfunding of this organization. Of this one
hundred fifty thousand dollars ($150,000), what would be our priorities? I know we do
things like the Mokihana Festival and how would it be amplifying awareness of the
Hawaiian culture rather than exploitation, empowerment of preserving and
perpetuating the Hawaiian culture, as opposed to exploiting it. That was what I saw
that was a big part of the Kaua`i Destination Management Action Plan and the
residential community not just one specific culture. Can you speak to how this one
hundred fifty thousand dollars ($150,000) would be directed and utilized? Thank you.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
NALANI K. KAAUWAI BRUN, Director of Economic Development (via remote
technology): This one hundred fifty thousand
dollars ($150,000) is from their last budget. The funds are to target a Kaua`i Made
Product program. Actually, there is a plan to work with Rice Street Business
Association to open up a Kaua`i Made focused product store. We have a lot of Native
Hawaiians that have Kaua`i Made products, so that is one way to help them
economically. So Kaua`i Made focus program is fifty thousand dollars ($50,000). The
second part of the program,which is the other one hundred thousand dollars($100,000),
the other one hundred thousand dollars ($100,000) is money floated over as we are
watching what is happening with transportation. One of the big DMAP items was to
change the way visitors travel here. It is very irritating to the residents to have traffic
and this was one way to try to mitigate what is happening and because we are coming
out of the pandemic, there is no time like the present to try to get something done.
Basically, we have the one hundred thousand dollars ($100,000), we have not specified
where it is going to go other than it is going to support whatever shuttle systems go in
place to move visitors instead of have them rent cars directly from the airport.
Currently, private companies are doing it, so we do not want to get into the way of that
and start our own shuttle. We want them to do it and just see what the needs are going
forward. As we have known from Hanalei Initiative at the North Shore Shuttle, there
were other needs outside of them starting the shuttle. We have learned a lot from that
process, so now we are working with the partners to see what it is they need to get
things done. I think they have already started their shuttles out to Po`ipu, it is a
reservation system working in conjunction with the taxis, Ubers, Lifts, and the Speedy
Shuttle programs, and the rental cars—all the options that are out there. This is just
another option that we want visitors to see as a great way to travel. Hopefully, someday
some of the rental cars will start to satellite their operations out into the Visitor
Destination Areas (VDA) instead of everything coming out of Lihu`e.
Councilmember Cowden: This will support that Energy Transportation
Initiative Partnership Project (ETIPP), if I have the acronym right.
Ms. Brun: Yes.
Councilmember Cowden: It will support that grant where we were picked
as one (1) of eleven (11) remote locations in the United States (US) to try and find a way
to rethink our traveling.
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Ms. Brun: Yes. The ETIPP program is going to help this
program. One of the focus areas of the ETIPP program is they are going to look at how
visitors are traveling and help give us good data to feed to the private industry on how
they can really make it work, so that we can sustain it long beyond the pandemic.
Councilmember Cowden: That hits our goal with our Destination
Management Action Plan well in that one of the overwhelming aspects of many visitors
on the island is how it impacts traffic.
Ms. Brun: Yes.
Councilmember Cowden: This is less of a cultural element, but is a relief
of the burden of the industry, in general, to all of the population.
Ms. Brun: Yes. We are working on E.2, which was one of
the recommendations to continuously examine the movement of visitors around the
island, and H.1, which was to expand the Kaua`i Made Products program. So those are
the two (2) DMAP items that we were working on with this funding.
Councilmember Cowden: Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: What is ETIPP?
Councilmember Cowden: Energy Transportation Initiative Partnership
Project.
Ms. Brun: It is basically to help figure things out, so it was
not money. I cannot tell you the acronym because I do not have it with me.
Councilmember Cowden: Ben Sullivan did that and it was exciting to
have access to some of the best of our advisors in the US to help us figure out a better
way to not be so dependent on individual cars for everyone all the time.
Ms. Brun: That is one part of the program. They also look
at energy infrastructure on-island. Basically, they are giving us services to look at and
they bring a wealth of data and information from other areas that we can utilize.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Evslin.
Councilmember Evslin: Thank you, Nalani. This was super exciting. I
read this and I was jumping for joy yesterday. Before I ask my question, I just want to
say, Councilmember Cowden I am surprised you are using this really long acronym. I
have never seen you use an acronym before.
Councilmember Cowden: Because I cannot remember it.
Councilmember Evslin: We are the ones who always got scolded for
using acronyms here. This is great to see Hawai`i Tourism Authority (HTA) directing
funds towards this. Hopefully, as the Transient Accommodations Tax (TAT) gets
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restructured and HTA revisits their own mandate, I really hope that we can get a lot
more of this, in that we need sustainable sources of funding for a shuttle and these types
of things and not just a one-time surge, but it is a great start. Just a question or a pitch
maybe, the two goals here; one, is trying to restructure how we get people around and
two, is creating this hub for Kaua`i Made Products. Hopefully, we can combine those. I
live in Lihu`e and I walk and ride my bike and see tourists constantly stuck walking
from the airport to their hotel or I do not know where they are walking, but they are
walking everywhere and it would be nice if we could have a shuttle that could pick them
up and not only shuttle them to hotels, but had an option while they wait for their Uber
to drop them in the center of Rice Street near this Kauai Made store where they could
buy their souvenirs when they get off the plane or get a coffee or beer from Kauai Beer
Company. It is just a better place to wait for their Uber than walking miles through
Lihu`e. Seems like a fantastic opportunity here. So to turn that into a question, is there
any discussion of trying to have that shuttle go directly from the airport to this place or
do you think that could be beneficial at any capacity?
Ms. Brun: Actually, they are testing out shuttle routes
now. They just started one where the shuttle goes from the airport to Po`ipu. Basically,
it is a reservation system, it is not on-demand at this point. Then today, they are
starting the shuttle that goes from Po`ipu to Kapa`a, that includes Lihu`e, to try and
move visitors around that do not have cars. So they are slowly incorporating
shuttle-by-shuttle to see if it can work and so far it has been good.
Councilmember Evslin: Awesome. I guess what I am trying to get at
here is instead of just going from the airport to hotels, or in these places that might be
smaller resorts without a shuttle service and it is three (3) hours for an Uber wait,
instead of having them walk to their destination, that quick 10-minute shuttle to Rice
Street is a better place to walk to let them support local businesses.
Ms. Brun: I will mention that.
Councilmember Evslin: This is really exciting, so thank you folks.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: Just a follow-up on that. When we are saying
"they,"who are "they"? Is it private shuttles? Are we using our buses? Are we going to
use our buses? We want them all to be private. There are enough vans out there on
the island. I know a month ago, people were scrambling to try and find a van to create
shuttles. Do we have those vans?
Ms. Brun: Speedy Shuttle is still operating at their
maximum. I think that is owned by Roberts Hawai`i, but Polynesian Adventure Tours
is the new player for the shuttle system. They have jumped in with their knowledge of
what they have learned with the Hanalei Initiative on the North Shore and they have
started their own shuttle. I think Roberts Hawai`i is looking at it too. So we are just
standing back to see where they need support and letting the marketplace do its thing.
Councilmember Cowden: Great.
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Council Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any other questions?
Councilmember Carvalho.
Councilmember Carvalho: Nalani, it ties into the "big picture" from before
with the infrastructure and now we are finally getting the shuttle service to come in
and complement some of the infrastructure that has been completed and continues to
be completed. I want more information on the Kaua`i Made store. The location is right
here in Lihu`e. Where is the location? What is the whole concept of that again?
Ms. Brun: This was working with the Rice Street
Business Association. They have located a spot on Rice Street, I think it is the old
Escape Room area they were looking at, which is closer to the County buildings.
Basically, it is not going to be "manned" by a lot of people, so it is low-cost, but it is
heavily online. They are going to have a virtual view of the store, so you can see it before
you come. You could virtually order if you want versus going in there. They want to tie
it into a lot of the events that happen in Lihu`e to introduce it. They have a big
marketing plan going and they are working with a lot of the Kaua`i Made teams here to
make sure that is the focus of the store. So there will be other members and they will
all be affiliate members, so they will help pay for that store, but Kaua`i Made is going
to be the focus.
Councilmember Carvalho: I think that is great. Also, to tie into the Rice
Street, Councilmember Evslin and I have walked with the youth along Rice Street and
they can use their phones to get information on the museum, so it all ties into this "big
picture" of that experience, which hopefully will move into different parts of our island.
For now, I think it is great that we are complementing all the work that has been done
in different ways. Great job in getting the grant going.
Ms. Brun: Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Hi, Nalani. Thank you for this work. I think it
is important. I have a question getting back to transportation. I know you said that
the Kaua`i Bus is not part of the plan for shuttling, but I do know that the bus does go
to the airport and that some tourists use the bus. I think that we should just make sure
the bus is being supportive in however they can be, because I heard that there is a rule
that you cannot bring big luggage on, but some drivers might give a little aloha and let
it slide and there might be a way where they can keep it in their area or on their lap,
and just to apply it consistently to everyone. It still is an option that some tourists are
choosing to use.
Ms. Brun: As part of that ETIPP program, we are also
looking at public transportation. So you are right, it is all about how all of these
different elements intersect and interact with each other. The Kaua`i Bus has been
wonderful. They have been feeding us information, so that we know exactly what the
need is and we are seeing the depletion of need as a new thing comes online. So they
are a big part of this. We need the Kaua`i Bus to be our partners in this and they are.
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Councilmember Kuali`i: Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember De Costa.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you, Chair. Hi, Nalani.
Ms. Brun: Hello.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you for all you do. I believe we do not
say thank you enough. This is sort of a discussion, but I will tie in a question. I was
excited, Councilmember Carvalho and I went to see Lima Ola in `Ele`ele and the vision
for that city and the commercial kitchen jumped out at both Councilmember Carvalho
and I. This commercial kitchen would assist with our Kaua`i Made store where locals
could produce their product out of this certified kitchen and I see the "big picture."
Hopefully, we will have one of those in the Waimea 400 and having a walkable/bikeable
layout like Po`ipu. We had a meeting yesterday and it was very refreshing to see Kaua`i
moving in that direction. Councilmember Kuali`i just sparked a"light bulb," I think we
do not want to step on the toes of our private sector with shuttling our tourists, but I
like what Councilmember Kuali`i said, that we need to have the Kaua`i Bus in place if
need be, so our tourists feel comfortable in case they cannot get a car, there is an
alternative transportation without the high cost of a taxi or uber. So the more we can
support it and let our tourists know that having a rental car is not culturally-friendly
to our local people, because we are getting back to work and our traffic...so just
supporting that. Thank you, Nalani.
Ms. Brun: Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any other questions from the
Members? Is there any final discussion? Councilmember Evslin.
There being no objections, the meeting was called back to order and proceeded as
follows:
Councilmember Evslin: Thank you, Chair. I want to reiterate my
excitement for this. I do think the rental car shortage is a huge opportunity for us to
rethink transportation in a way that has not happened before. It has shown a couple of
things, one is that tourists will pay more money for vehicles, that there is way to
distribute the benefits of tourism more here and that local families are renting cars for
five hundred dollars ($500) a day, and yet tourists are still coming and still paying that
kind of money for a vehicle. Also, tourists are willing to walk more than we would have
guessed. I drove to Po`ipu the other day and saw tons of people walking on the side of
the street from their hotel to the beach, because they cannot find a car. This benefits
residents with fewer cars on the road, it benefits residents in the possibility of making
money renting a vehicles, and it gives us this once in a lifetime opportunity to try and
rethink how we are getting people around. I really appreciate HTA, Office of Economic
Development (OED), and you folks for jumping on this opportunity to try and make it
happen at this moment. Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Is there anyone else? Councilmember Cowden.
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Councilmember Cowden: I think we have fortuitous timing at many
levels. Somehow this morning I was able to get to work without much and a brand new
roundabout in Kealia, "shout out" to the Department of Transportation for that. Kind
of building on what Councilmember Evslin said, I have spoken to visitors who have been
using our bus, because they could not get a car. They are actually happy, because it is
up high with a big window and their reaction was quite pleased. They commented on
how nice our bus drivers are, which has always been my experience when I take the
bus. The other thing that I think is fortuitous for how we are trying to figure all this
out when these people are basically Airbnb their cars making money off the industry.
They are having to take the bus themselves, so they are taking the bus to get back and
forth to work, because they are renting their car making more money doing that than
they are going to work. I think it is good they are getting the opportunity to ride and
experience the bus. I would love to see and will ask for, but if we keep numbers up on
how many people ride the bus every day. I am curious to see if we are tracking it,
because when Councilmember Kuali`i is asking questions about holding your luggage,
that has long been a problem. I will pick tourists up that are sitting at the bus stop
with their luggage over the years, because the bus will just pass them by. If these buses
are not that full, maybe we create a little area to have luggage on it, like a rental bus,
that might be good too. You could think about it. Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Is there any further discussion from the
Members?
(Written testimony was received and no registered speakers requested to testify
regarding this agenda item.)
The motion to approve C 2021-140 was then put, and unanimously carried.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: The motion is carried. Next item.
C 2021-141 Communication (05/27/2021) from the Acting County Engineer,
requesting Council approval to apply for, receive, and expend State recycling grant
funds in the amount of$45,000.00, to be used by the Department of Public Works, Solid
Waste Division, to support Electronic Waste (eWaste) Recycling for Fiscal Year 2022.
Councilmember Kuali`i moved to approve C 2021-141, seconded by
Councilmember Cowden.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Do we have any questions from the Members?
Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: When I read what you sent to us, this is
basically the cost of promoting the awareness of when this is essentially radio,
newspaper advertisement, and flyers—that is the forty-five thousand dollars ($45,000)
to get people to be aware of where to do it?
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
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ALLISON FRALEY, Solid Waste Program Development Coordinator(via remote
technology): Yes, Councilmember Cowden. This is Allison
Fraley from the Solid Waste Division. That is correct. Our program itself is funded by
the County under Puhi Metals Recycling Program. Residents can take electronic waste
six (6) days a week to Puhi Metals. We just want to get the word out there, because we
do have the one (1) location, so make sure that everyone is aware. We receive this
funding from the State every year to be able to promote this. One of the highlights of
this program is that we do a school program where we have a contest in the schools, so
the children get to go to the site to see where the electronic waste is captured and
readied to be shipped out to get recycled.
Councilmember Cowden: Thank you so much for doing an excellent job
at trying to encourage recycling and the knowledge of how much high value metals are
actually in all that eWaste. Thank you for doing the work and for writing the grant,
because if people do not recycle, it is a waste for all the rest of us. Thank you.
Ms. Fraley: Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any other questions from the
Members? Is there any final discussion?
There being no objections, the meeting was called back to order and proceeded as
follows:
(No written testimony was received and no registered speakers requested to
testify regarding this agenda item.)
The motion to approve C 2021-141 was then put, and unanimously carried.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: The motion is carried. Next item.
C 2021-142 Communication (05/27/2021) from the Executive on Aging,
requesting Council approval to receive and expend Federal funds, in the amount of
$642,681.00, and to indemnify the State Executive Office on Aging, for the provision
of Title III services of the Older Americans Act, which includes supportive services,
congregate meals, home-delivered meals, preventive health programs, and the
National Family Caregiver Support Program, for the Federal Fiscal Year 2021 that
began October 1, 2020 and runs through September 30, 2024.
Councilmember Carvalho moved to approve C 2021-142, seconded by
Councilmember Chock.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Do we have any questions from the Members?
Is there any final discussion from the Members?
(No written testimony was received and no registered speakers requested to
testify regarding this agenda item.)
The motion to approve C 2021-142 was then put, and unanimously carried.
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Council Chair Kaneshiro: The motion is carried. Next item.
C 2021-143 Communication (05/27/2021) from the Chief of Police and Mark
Begley, Assistant Chief of Police, Patrol Services Bureau, requesting Council
approval to purchase non-budgeted equipment with Fiscal Year 2021 unexpended
funds in the amount of $403,356.00, which will fund sixty-two (62) replacement
mobile radios with preinstalled encryption software and installation of encryption
software upgrades on forty-three (43) current mobile radios.
Councilmember Kuali`i moved to approve C 2021-143, seconded by
Councilmember DeCosta.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Do we have any questions from the Members?
Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: Do we have Assistant Chief Begley? Okay,
Chief Todd Raybuck. Can you provide a simple overview of this and I have a question
and a comment.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
TODD G. RAYBUCK, Chief of Police (via remote technology): Good
morning, Honorable Chair, Vice Chair, and Councilmembers. Chief Raybuck, for the
record. Happy 30th birthday, Councilmember DeCosta, nice to see that you finally have
reached into your thirties. This morning's request is to seek approval for the use of the
four hundred three thousand, three hundred fifty-six dollars ($403,356) of unexpended
funds to continue KPD's efforts to upgrade our portable and mobile upgrades, so in the
future they could be encrypted. KPD along with support from our partners from Kaua`i
Emergency Management Agency (KEMA), have been working to encrypt our radios for
the last several years. This is a trend in law enforcement to upgrade our equipment for
a variety of reasons as outlined in the memorandum from Assistant Chief Begley to the
Council. Today's requests should complete our upgrades and make our system available
for encryption in the future.
Councilmember Cowden: I have comments/questions. I was surprised I
have a little bit of"push back." Some people were not happy with this choice. I will say,
as being a friend of a broad base of the community even fifteen (15) to twenty (20) years
ago, I would be surprised at how anyone could listen to what the police were doing.
Some of my crowd that I know who are kolohe, they listen in, so they know what the
police are doing. So if you are going to make a bad choice, best to do it when you know
the officers are going in the other direction. I remember fifteen (15)to twenty (20) years
ago thinking, "Wow, that is a pretty big weak link." People know when the officers are
either busy doing something else or coming in their direction, so people could change
their behavior. Good to change their behavior, but not good in terms of stopping a bad
trend of chronic crimes. I am not suggesting I am hanging with people who are doing
crimes, but I would sit there and be blown away at what an exposure of process it is. So
I support the idea of not tipping your hand at cards when you are trying to stop
burglaries. Do you have any comments on that? Is that consistent with your reasoning
for wanting this?
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Mr. Raybuck: Councilmember Cowden, thank you for your
comments. Honestly, as we have seen technology evolve, it has exposed law
enforcement to further exposure to what our plans and responsibilities are, as well as
what our response is to crimes in progress and our enforcement strategies. People have
been listening to scanners for decades, but technology has evolved, people can listen to
police radios now over their cell phones, while they are in a car, it is not uncommon for
criminals to utilize. In the past, they would use lookouts that would sit on a corner
two (2) blocks away and utilize communication to let their cohorts know that the police
were approaching. Today, any cell phone can access open communications of police
radios, so it not only puts our officers in jeopardy in their response, because the
criminals know their location and when they will be there. It also puts our public in
danger, because it also allows criminals to operate freely knowing where our police
officers are and where they are not. So the encryption services will allow us to perform
our services to the community in a more protected way. So not only can we
appropriately respond to crimes in progress, but also not allow those persons looking to
conduct criminal behaviors know the whereabouts of where our officers are. As we know
on our island, KPD is the only primary law enforcement agency responding. It is
common knowledge where our officers are assigned and how many officers we have on
the road, so a person could easily deduce the level of availability of our officers by
listening to the scanners and then take advantage of the lack of resources to respond to
commit crimes. So encryption will allows us to eliminate that possibility for criminals
to continue to monitor our activities and utilize that for their gain.
Councilmember Cowden: I do not see an economic breakdown here. Are
we going to get forty-three (43) different radios for four hundred thousand
dollars ($400,000), so is it ten thousand dollars ($10,000) per radio or is most of it for
having this software piece and maybe fifty percent (50%), then partner it with radio, so
when we get new radios, is it ten thousand dollars ($10,000)? How does that break
down?
Mr. Raybuck: My apologies, I do not know the specific
breakdown per radio. They are quite expensive. Our portable radios average about six
thousand five hundred dollars ($6,500) to seven thousand dollars ($7,000) a piece, so it
is not cheap equipment. The breakdown as you have mentioned includes the upgrade
of our older mobile radios. We have been replacing radios along the way, as I have
mentioned earlier, to upgrade those into a position where we could encrypt the radios
in the future. So this would allow us to upgrade the remaining radios that have not
been currently upgraded, as well as the leftover portable radios that we still need to
upgrade as well.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay. I did see I did my math wrong.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: It is sixty-two (62) new and forty-three (43)
upgrade.
Councilmember Cowden: Yes, so one hundred five (105). Good. Thank
you.
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Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember De Costa, then
Councilmember Evslin.
(Councilmember Chock was noted as not present.)
Councilmember De Costa: Hi, Chief. Thank you for the birthday wish. I
let my beard come out a little bit, so I do not look thirty (30), I did not want to make you
look too old. Thank you for all you folks do and I want to say thank you to Mark Begley,
I have only heard positive things throughout the community and through his patrol unit
with all his men, so morale is great in that division. I am very impressed. I also wanted
to thank your Department with the search and rescue that went on that I was able to
be in the briefing with Mr. Cabo. I was very impressed with how KPD assisted with
the search. We did not find him yet, but a big thank you. I grew up respecting the
police, in fact, I grew up being scared of the police and I think that is what made a lot
of our youth listen. Today, I think our youth is not afraid of the police. So I do not think
the police need to intimidate the youth, but it is good that we show mutual respect and
I believe it is happening, so thank you very much. Our news media has a little bit of a
concern, they have a scanner, they listen to where the crime, traffic accident, fire, or
wherever something has happened and they go and take pictures or have more
accessibility to inform the public. I am just asking, are we going to still, maybe not
ensure, but I am looking for a word, if my Councilmembers can help me, are we going
to ensure that the news media still has access in case there is a traffic accident at
halfway bridge. How do we get that onto KONG Radio? How does the Garden Island
Newspaper get a picture of that crime or scene or something of that sort? I am just
looking out for those constituents of that category.
(Councilmember Chock was noted as present.)
Mr. Raybuck: Thank you, Councilmember DeCosta. If I could
answer that question before you proceed. Across the nation there is a concern by media
outlets about the encryption of police radios and access to the media. As far as how will
the media know about these events; first, our dispatch sends out E-mails, we update a
telephone number that immediately is accessible to the community and the media
regarding accidents, so they can obtain that information immediately without the use
of police scanners. As far as critical incidents and updates on other information, we
have a public information officer and we do push out information via our social media
alerting the community, and thereby via also the media, about events that may be
occurring within the Department that the public may need to be notified about more
rapidly. Right now, while we do not have a policy in place about how we will respond, I
am certainly open to entertaining requests by the media and then we can cross that
bridge about whether or not that decryption of the radio services would be available to
them.
Councilmember De Costa: Okay, thank you for that explanation. The last
question I wanted to ask, I know when there is a traffic accident scene and it could
involve a crime if it were drunk driving or something along those lines, we do have
somewhat of a congested situation with tow trucks getting to the scene ahead of time.
I know we have a policy in place where dispatch calls the tow truck. Will the radios
with the encryption device be able to control that situation better?
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Mr. Raybuck: I wish it would. The problem that we have with
congestion about accidents is infrastructure not radio communications. The challenge
as we all know, we primarily have two (2) lane roads encircling the island, so anytime
there is a major accident on the roadway, it shuts down and affects all traffic. It not
only affects, unfortunately, the tow trucks' capability to get to the scene, it also delays
and impacts the response of our first responders, our firefighters, and emergency
workers that are responding to provide medical assistance to those who are involved in
the crash. It would make me no happier to have KPD be able to resolve the problem of
the congestion at an accident scene. We do our best to try to clear those roadways as
quickly as possible, except when there are severe injuries and it requires more of an
investigation to eliminate that, but the significant factor in why our roadways are
congested is infrastructure, and as the conversation earlier took place about the volume
of traffic on our roadways contributes to that. So the encryption will not mitigate it one
way or the other.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you for the explanation Chief.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Evslin.
Councilmember Evslin: Thank you, Chief. My only experience with the
police scanner was when I used to get driven to school in a carpool, one of the parents
had a police scanner about thirty (30)years ago, and I thought you folks had encryption
long ago, I did not realize people could still listen in and it is shocking to hear that you
can get an app to listen in. My question is, are there any downsides to encryption? Why
did it take so long, is it the cost of it?
Mr. Raybuck: Yes, it is very costly. I think we have spent
nearly a million dollars ($1,000,000) already through our upgrades both in software and
equipment. As I have mentioned earlier, many of these upgrades have been available
because of KEMA support in building our infrastructure and availability for that. Some
of it is technology, ensuring the technology is there to provide the encryption services.
It used to be a lot more complicated and costly, but as technology is advanced it has
become more affordable for us. But it is critical today, as we see in events all across the
country. Unfortunately, social media provides a platform for people to prepare and
respond however they choose in critical incidents or in protests and things like that. So
encrypting and protecting the police communication is not only important for our safety,
there is that other piece that we did not mention earlier and that is protecting people's
confidential and sensitive information. The Federal law requires KPD to protect
people's individual data, meaning dates of birth, social security numbers, driver's
license numbers, and things like that. Today's age of identity theft is rampant. People
can go online and take advantage of people. Unfortunately, part of the process that we
need to utilize in policing is, we often broadcast people's sensitive information that could
be intercepted and used to create new victims of identity theft. So we have a
responsibility also, in encrypting our radio and protecting the sensitive information of
the people that we have contact with in the field.
Councilmember Evslin: That makes total sense to me. I am just
surprised that we are not encrypted yet. Will there be any issues for cross agency
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collaboration if there is a disaster communicating with Kaua`i Fire Department (KFD)
or is that at all still possible?
Mr. Raybuck: I apologize, I could not hear what you were
saying.
Councilmember Evslin: Are there any issues with cross agency
collaboration in a natural disaster when you need to be coordinating with KFD or other
agencies that might not have encrypted devices?
Mr. Raybuck: I think I heard you ask about cross agency
complications caused by encryption. The answer is, no and maybe. No, KFD and our
emergency professionals would not be impacted by encryption, as they operate on
different channels that we would not encrypt. There are other entities like Department
of Land and Natural Resources (DLNR) and the Sheriffs Office that utilize our KPD.
Certainly, we would need to look at what their capabilities are, as far as operating on
our encrypted channels. What many agencies have done and what we will consider
looking at as well, is having a non-encrypted channel that would allow for that cross
communication platform among all the entities, in the event it was necessary.
Councilmember Evslin: Great. Last question, what happens to the old
radios? Do you folks sell them or keep them?
Mr. Raybuck: The older radios that are not encryption
compatible will be phased out. We have been doing that over the last couple of years
already, so many of these radios were already due to be replaced in the future. The
approval of this will allow us to do it in a much quicker fashion.
Councilmember Evslin: I believe a few months ago, we were talking to
KFD about trying to get a Staffing For Adequate Fire And Emergency
Response (SAFER) grant to replace a bunch of radios. I do not know if they ended up
receiving that grant and if there is any way (from my understanding, it sounds like they
were using old radios,) if there were some capacity for sharing these radios that you
folks are replacing if they do not receive the grant just putting that out there. Thank
you.
Mr. Raybuck: I do not know what radio frequencies and what
radio equipment the Fire Department utilizes nor do I understand that transition of
communication radios back and forth, but it is certainly something that we could look
at if our replacement radios are due to be replaced and if they work for KFD, it is
something we could explore.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: This last question is simple. I appreciate the
request to do something that seems to be evident is long overdue—how we needed it
ten (10) or fifteen (15) years ago. How soon, when we say "yes" today, will this be
implemented?
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Mr. Raybuck: Obviously, supply is part of it. I cannot tell you
how long it will take us to receive the radios. Then the actual upgrades will take time.
Then software upgrades. The expectation is that we would be able to complete the
encryption by the end of the year, but there are a lot of variables in that. So that is our
goal, to have it encrypted by the end of the year.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay, I thank both yourself, Assistant Chief
Begley, and whoever else might have been a part of moving in this direction. Thank
you both so much.
Mr. Raybuck: Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any other questions?
Councilmember Carvalho.
Councilmember Carvalho: I have a quick question. Chief, is there any cost
or need for training involved in this whole process?
Mr. Raybuck: Training would be very minimal. Typically,
what occurs is, once the encryption goes live, it comes down to ensuring that our officers
are on the proper frequency for the encryption services. In my past experience, when
my former organization went to encrypted radios, the officers knew right away if they
were on the wrong channel, because when they keyed to microphone they just got
feedback and they did not hear anything being broadcast. So it would just be ensuring
that our officers are aware of what the encrypted channels are. It should not take more
than fifteen (15) to twenty (20) minutes of roll call training to ensure that they are
familiar with that.
Councilmember Carvalho: Okay, thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any other questions? Is there any
final discussion from the Members? Councilmember Cowden.
There being no objections, the meeting was called back to order, and proceeded
as follows:
Councilmember Cowden: I have a quick comment. I just want to say, I
am pleased that we are making this change and it is really important to keep both our
community and our officers safe. So I can only see where this is going to benefit both.
When we are looking at the media, I appreciate all the work they do and social media
is so fast, you typically know right away when there is an accident in a way that we
never used to know. I am sure there is a way to bridge past that block.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Evslin.
Councilmember Evslin: I will say briefly that I am in support of this. It
certainly does seem overdue. It does sound like from the conversation that we had, that
the only potential downside could be not getting word out quickly enough to media, but
I want to give a "shout out" to your Public Information Officer (PIO) who does a good
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job of getting information out. I am often checking social media when there is traffic
and the KPD social media page does a great job of getting that information out. I do not
necessarily see that as a downside here, so keep up the good work.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Is there anyone else?
(No written testimony was received and no registered speakers requested to
testify regarding this agenda item.)
The motion to approve C 2021-143 was then put, and unanimously carried.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: The motion is carried. Next item.
C 2021-144 Communication (06/08/2021) from the Managing Director,
requesting Council approval of the following:
• Apply for, receive, and expend the first allocation of assistance for
State, Local, and Tribal Governments— Coronavirus State and Local
Fiscal Recovery Funds from the United States Department of
Treasury, in the amount of $7,021,034.00, appropriated by the U.S.
Congress as part of the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) of 2021,
to be used to support urgent COVID-19 response efforts, replace lost
revenue, support immediate economic stabilization for households
and businesses, and address systemic public health and economic
challenges; and
• Apply for, receive, and expend, at the request of the State of Hawai`i,
ARPA Non-Entitlement Unit Funds from the United States
Department of Treasury, in the amount of approximately
$3,783,402.00, to be used for non-entitlement units for local
governments smaller than 50,000 in population.
Councilmember Kuali`i moved to approve C 2021-144, seconded by
Councilmember Cowden.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Mike, if you just want to give us an overview of
the money and how you plan to spend it.
There being no objections, the rules were suspended.
MICHAEL A. DAHILIG, Managing Director (via remote technology): Good
morning, Council Chair and Members of the Council. Mike Dahilig, Managing Director,
for the record. Again, we appreciate the opportunity to engage in dialogue previous to
this memorandum that has been transmitted to the Members related to moneys that
are earmarked to the County of Kaua`i via the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) of
2021. There has been a lot of attention paid to this tranche of funding relating to
support for State and Local governments,particularly in light of the economic downturn
that has beset the country as a consequence of the COVID-19 pandemic. These funds
are meant to provide support in areas that we believe are of gaps that need to be filled,
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as a consequence of the economic conditions that have been created by the pandemic.
Just as a brief explanation, the County has been earmarked approximately fourteen
million dollars ($14,000,000) over two (2) Federal Fiscal Years to be given in two (2)
separate tranches of approximately seven million dollars ($7,000,000) a piece. This is
largely in part due to calculations made on the County's population, as well as other
factors that I wish I could explain, but are related to Community Development Block
Grant (CDBG) standing, the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD)
standing and metrics, and things that relate to the population characteristic of the
island.
What we have proposed to the Council and transmitted is a proposed budget that
focuses not on necessarily making up for lost revenue in the County's General Fiscal
Year, rather it looks at a forward-facing program towards the public to support those
things that we see are emerging or are having large gaps in our community as a
consequence of pandemic conditions. Also in the memorandum, at the last minute we
had to include a request to apply for, receive, and expend, but we do commit to coming
back to the Council for the dialogue on that tranche of funds in the amount of
approximately three million seven hundred thousand dollars ($3,700,000)is money that
is considered part of the non-entitlement unit portion of the State and Local government
assistance. This was news to us that was given by our Director of Finance via
conversations with the State Budget and Finance Directors where populations of less
than fifty thousand (50,000) across the nation were earmarked a lump sum to be given
to the State as a pass-through to support these communities. The unique thing about
Hawai`i is that Hawai`i does not have any local government unit that is smaller than a
county. While on the mainland you do see townships and boroughs that may be in less
than fifty thousand (50,000) population—we do not have any of those types of
communities here. The word from the Budget and Finance Director is that these
moneys will be earmarked to the counties of Hawai`i Island, Kaua`i, and Maui for
disbursement of that non-entitlement unit funding; however, we do not have the full
extent of what exactly needs to be done, mechanism-wise, to receive these funds as a
pass-through to the State. However, we do understand that the State, based off of
calculations, has about three million seven hundred thirty thousand
dollars ($3,730,000) as the amount that would be received by the County of Kaua`i for
the first Federal Fiscal Year to be spent for similar activities as the direct funding that
1 we have proposed a budget to you folks for.
Council Chair, I know that the budget in front of you has about sixteen (16)
budget line items that relate to the expenditure plan. I am happy to either go through
them line-by-line or I am able to answer any questions in whatever fashion the Council
is seeking to get information from the Administration in regards to the expenditure
plan. One other thing I do want to mention is, the memorandum that I did send over
inadvertently did not add the words receive and expend for the first tranche of funds
under the seven million dollars ($7,000,000) and I am going to clarify for the record that
the request that we are asking for is to apply for, receive, and expend the first tranche
of money that is a direct allocation to the County of Kaua`i.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmembers, we have the form in front of
us, do we have questions on individual items? Mike, can you share this on your screen?
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Mr. Dahilig: I can share it from my screen.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: If you have the proposed budget worksheet.
Mr. Dahilig: Are you able to see that, Council Chair?
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Yes. It is small.
Mr. Dahilig: Hold on. Is that better?
Council Chair Kaneshiro: I do not think we need to go through it
line-by-line. We will leave that up on the screen for everyone to see. We have that in
front of us. I will take questions from the Members, if you have questions on any line
items. Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: I have two (2) that are related relative to
housing and two (2) questions that are related relative to job placement, then two (2)
relative to elderly. If any of my fellow Councilmembers want to jump in on any of these,
I want to leave that open so I do not dominate here. First, I will look at these housing
ones. There is permanent supportive housing construction for two million five hundred
thousand dollars ($2,500,000), then houseless support for one hundred seventy
thousand dollars ($170,000). Can you give us a little bit of context for both of those,
please?
Mr. Dahilig: I am happy to do so, Councilmember Cowden.
With respect to the permanent supportive housing construction line item, the one
difference between the American Rescue Plan Act funds for State and Local assistance,
and the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act, which was
received by the Council last year, is that moneys for this particular appropriation can
be used to construct affordable housing developments in order to delay some of the
effects of houselessness due to the economic downturn. We have seen some relative
success with our first project related to the housing emergency declared by Governor
Ige back in 2019, relating to the construction of the Kealaula Project, where we were
able to achieve a reasonable price point per unit, while also providing opportunities for
supportive services around that transitional step for people to have a place and a roof
over their head, in line with "housing first" objectives. That is where we see this as an
opportunity to have these funds continue to pay forward rather than having it be simply
an operational expense for our Fiscal Year. We believe that these moneys can chip away
at the inventory deficit that we have in this particular area of support that is needed,
so that is where that earmark is meant to support. At this point in time, we do not have
a specific location, but we believe we have a couple of candidate locations that could
meet the objective of being able to provide pretty quick connectivity to our infrastructure
and reduce the cost of off-site construction that would be needed to support this type of
development. So we are looking for things that have parcels that are "plug and play"
ready to be able to move very quickly like we did with Kealaula.
With respect to houseless support, we have seen a lot of success with the Housing
Agency and being able to be more active in the outreach. We see the one hundred
seventy thousand dollars($170,000)as flex funds for our Housing Outreach Coordinator
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to be able to rapidly deploy resources where needed. She has been a staunch advocate
for being able to get resources for these individuals that are in need of support. We
think that providing this flex funding for her to go out and get the resources she needs
to help these people of our community, we think that is a down payment in being able
to ramp up some of her objectives as she goes out into our community in outreach.
Councilmember Cowden: Thank you so much. That is great.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: I will take any more questions on these two (2)
items regarding housing; it is the Permanent Supportive Housing Construction of two
million five hundred thousand dollars ($2,500,000) and the Houseless Support of one
hundred seventy thousand dollars ($170,000). Do we have any other questions on those
items from the Members? Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: Hi, Mike. How are you? Thank you, again, for
all you do as Managing Director. I know we spoke briefly about this, but will some of
those funds be earmarked for a potential homeless campground, if you would come
across land from a large landowner or if we would come up with something of our own,
can we earmark some of this funding to create a place where we could relocate or
advocate for our homeless?
Mr. Dahilig: Happy birthday, Councilmember.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you, Mike.
Mr. Dahilig: One of the things that we are continuing to
pursue is trying to find a candidate site for the initiative that you approached us with
concerning pairing job training in the agricultural field with houseless support. We are
needing to still be able to find the site for where moneys would be appropriately
earmarked to support such an initiative. At this time, we would not suggest that the
moneys, at least in this tranche of funding, would be appropriate for that particular
initiative, but yet, we have three (3) other tranches of funding that are coming down the
pipeline, which is again the three million eight hundred thousand dollars ($3,800,000),
another seven million dollars ($7,000,000) in the next Federal Fiscal Year, as well as
another three million eight hundred thousand dollars ($3,800,000) tranche of funding
in Federal Fiscal Year two (2). We believe there is more than enough room to bring that
online as the plan behind something that matures, where we have a landowner that is
willing to partner with the County with approval of whatever regulatory agency is
necessary to be able to get this up and running. I would mention that one of the
difficulties in standing up something quickly is that the statutory waivers that were
provided under the Governor's Proclamations are starting to be eliminated. We have
seen that with the elimination of Hawai`i Revised Statutes (HRS) 103D as a waived
statute. Right now, emergency procurement is no longer allowable in this form, so there
are some breaks being put in by the Governor's Office as a consequence of these waivers
being eliminated. So it will take some time to mature that plan, but we are happy to
engage in those planning discussions with you, Councilmember DeCosta, and be able to
get a piece of property that will suit that initiative.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you for your clarification Mike.
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Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: I am very happy and I think we all are, to see a
big chunk of this money, a considerable amount being put towards affordable housing
and transitional housing. For all of these moneys, the seven million
dollars ($7,000,000), I know you said fourteen million dollars ($14,000,000) over two (2)
Fiscal Years, so seven million dollars ($7,000,000) this first Fiscal Year. According to
the funding from the Federal, does it have to be expended within this next Fiscal Year?
Mr. Dahilig: That is not entirely clear. We are with the
understanding that if we can show evidence of spend down of the full seven million
dollars ($7,000,000), then we can go in for the second tranche. But there is also some
language that seems to indicate that we have to wait for one year after asking for the
first set of funds, so I do not have a clear answer on that. What I will do is send a
question to the Office of the County Attorney to try and get clarity on what exactly is
the Treasury's guidance on that, because we have conflicting information on when
exactly is the trigger for asking for the second tranche of money.
Councilmember Kuali`i: By chance, do you know about the two million
five hundred thousand dollars ($2,500,000) for Permanent Supportive Housing
Construction? You mentioned Kealaula, so the County had a particular investment in
Kealaula, was that around the same amount? Is this intended for one (1) project?
Mr. Dahilig: The one difference in this case is that the
moneys for the wraparound services are not included in this construction estimation.
Given the price point of what we have reached at Kealaula, and that is not including
what we are seeing as cost accelerations in the materials markets for construction, we
still believe we can hit a price point relative to the same price point that we had at
Kealaula due to the fact that each unit did need to put in some degree of off-site
infrastructure and bear some of that cost. So that is one distinct difference in this line
item, is that it does not include, unlike the State moneys that were given last time that
provided opportunities for wraparound services to be paid for out of the same grant.
One of the things to also consider is that approximately seven hundred thousand
dollars ($700,000) of Kealaula was used as moneys that were not expended as part of
Fiscal Year 2020 Emergency Funding and we came back to the Council for dialogue on
pushing that money out towards building an additional six (6) or eight (8) units. I need
to do a little bit of math, but it was approximately one hundred forty thousand
dollars ($140,000) to one hundred sixty thousand dollars ($160,000) a unit by the time
that we were done with the overall project.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Thank you. The two million five hundred
thousand dollars ($2,500,000) could do a good amount in the second project, if you will,
of this type and probably in the range of twenty-five (25) to thirty (30) units.
Mr. Dahilig: Twenty-five (25) units would be a stretch, but I
think that a goal of at least twenty (20) would be a fair target.
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Councilmember Kuali`i: My only other question on the other one, the
one hundred thousand dollars ($100,000) for Houseless Support; I heard you say "flex
funding," so would this be open to whatever we need in this area?
Mr. Dahilig: Our Houseless Coordinator tends to
understand the nuance needs on the ground and should be given the ability to respond
in a quick manner rather than trying to set specific initiatives. We understand that
houselessness is a dynamic issue that does not provide a one-size fits-all solution. So
that is providing support funds for her to resource and be nimble in her innovative
approach towards dialogue with the community—at least put some tools in her bucket
to be able to chase down what she needs a lot quicker than having to run up and down
the chain as normal.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Council Vice Chair Chock.
Councilmember Chock: Thank you, Chair. Just a follow-up, I think this
is starting to put into perspective what we can achieve, so I appreciate the questions
here. Some of the reports I am getting out of Lydgate is that we still have about
fifty (50) or so unhoused people, half of them have serious health conditions and we are
not even talking about Salt Pond and some of the other areas that we need to deal with.
To put this in perspective, less than twenty (20) homes or shelters or transitional
housing—there is still a big population, it is one small piece of it and I applaud the
effort, but I really think that one hundred seventy thousand dollars ($170,000) and the
focus on the continuing services that our coordinator needs, is key in helping us to
maintain and move these programs forward. My only request is to be able to match
these services with the numbers that we are dealing with, so we know how these funds
are being directed and can get a better picture of what the need is moving forward.
Mr. Dahilig: I acknowledge it, Councilmember Chock. I will
also add that in anticipation that more funding is coming down the pipeline, we have
already started to engage with Kaua`i Economic Opportunity (KEO) and looking at our
homeless shelter that is currently across Kealaula and trying to add capacity there. We
are already moving forward with sewerizing to that facility and taking it off of a
cesspool, which will allow us to double the capacity. Hopefully as the next tranche of
funds evolves, so we can get into dialogue about how we can ask the Council for their
concurrence in using moneys to support that operation, considering that as you have
mentioned the numbers that we are seeing demand us to look at our existing facilities
to see where we can add more capacity where we are able.
Councilmember Kaneshiro: Councilmember Evslin.
Councilmember Evslin: Thank you, Mike. For the non-entitlement
three million eight hundred thousand dollars ($3,800,000), are you folks going to come
back with another draft budget for that or is the intention just to put it in these
categories?
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Council Chair Kaneshiro: One moment Councilmember Evslin. Mike,
can you remove the screen share? Then we will be able to see Councilmember Evslin.
Thank you.
Councilmember Evslin: Are you going to come back to us with a draft
budget for the three million eight hundred thousand dollars ($3,800,000) or allocate it
to these categories after-the-fact? What is the intention there?
Mr. Dahilig: Our intention is to come back to you folks and
dialogue and collaborate on the expenditure plan for that additional tranche. As we
went through the prioritization process of the seven million dollars ($7,000,000), it
would have been a lot easier to have the three million eight hundred thousand
dollars ($3,800,000) at hand. We still do not understand the timing as to when we are
going to be able to obtain those funds from the Treasury via the State or however the
State sets it up with the Treasury Department. So rather than hold up the process on
earmarking, we believe that moving forward and asking for the seven million
dollars ($7,000,000) at this point makes sense. Then coming back to you folks for the
three million eight hundred thousand dollars ($3,800,000) and engaging in another
dialogue in that stead would be how we would approach it. The one benefit this time
around is that we are not "under the gun" like we were with CARES where we had to
burn down funds very quickly. I believe this process of us putting together a budget
and calling out different ideas actually provides a better expenditure plan, so we want
to keep that same philosophy going forward with the additional tranche of funds.
Councilmember Evslin: Okay, great. I know we have talked about it,
but I was hoping you could explain the dollar funding for the cesspool conversion
program.
Mr. Dahilig: The unfortunate thing is that the Treasury
guidance, although it is many pages, still does not hit on every single type of situation
or possible expenditure. We know that during the budget process there was discussion
about wanting to make more investments in cesspool conversion particularly with EPA
funds that are on the table. So there are some questions raised in an inquiry with the
Office of the County Attorney whether or not this would be an allowable expenditure
under the Treasury's guidance. We sent a question to the Treasury to see if they would
respond to this money being supportive of the disbursement of what is another Federal
program; however, we have not received a response yet. What we have done in lieu of
that is dollar-fund a line item for the Housing Agency to potentially move up to one
hundred thousand dollars ($100,000) in the contingency over to that fund when we do
get some positive indication that we can spend the money in that respect. That is our
intention if we do get a positive sign from the Treasury.
Councilmember Evslin: Great. Thank you. That is the only question I
have.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any other questions on the cesspool
conversion item? Let us stick to that line item for now. Council Vice Chair Chock.
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Councilmember Chock: Thank you. I will just add, Mike, I am looking
at that question to the Treasury. I attended the water and sewer infrastructure
questionnaire today with National Association of Counties (NACo) and the Interim
Final Rule (IFR) suggested that necessary investment was definitely within that
category of use of funds, but there is the discrepancy between the use of Administration
and the cap. It sounds like it is possible, it is just the details of how those two (2) line
items overlap that I think needs to be clarified. So hopefully I can get a response on my
end.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Is there any other questions on the cesspool
conversion? If not, Councilmember Cowden, we can move to another line item.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay. I am going to put two (2) in the
collection, because they are similar—the Rise to Work for one million one hundred
thousand dollars ($1,100,000), will that be an extension of the existing Rise to Work
jobs or will there be a reapplication required? Also, comment on the County job
placement support for two hundred thousand dollars ($200,000).
Mr. Dahilig: With respect to Rise to Work and I will also
briefly touch upon the philosophy behind providing support for nonprofits in this
budget. What we do know is, as the economy recovers, the for-profit businesses are
going to get the first wave of reinfusion of liquidity based off of economic activity, and
then the nonprofit sector, which is reliant on the for-profit sector and the Government
sector to provide support for those activities is going to lag a bit, simply because of the
ability to roll over the amount of tax liability to nonprofit entities and instead support
those agencies in that manner. We see it is important for the Rise to Work program to
continue for those not-for-profit agencies, so that is where the 12-week extension is
meant to support those businesses that are nonprofit that also right now, at this point
in time, have existing employees that are on their payroll as part of the previous Rise
to Work program. This is meant as an extension, not as a reopening of that. I know
that I have committed to getting a list of these individuals—I am still working on that,
so I will have to get that over to you folks as a separate communication. But just in
response to your question, Councilmember, that is what the intention is for that
particular line item.
With respect to County job placement support—one of the interesting things that
we are seeing in the economy is that there is a high demand for employees, but at the
same time there is not many people who are actually seeking employment. We expect
that to change at some point when the Federal"kickers" do roll away and also when you
are starting to see some of the safeguards relating to eviction moratoria and those
things come into play where people will now have to start getting real firm lines of
employment and income into their households. This money is meant to backstop our
current operation. We are in some dialogue and discussion right now with the State
WIOA office regarding the program and we do have some contractual issues that we are
working through in terms of the arrangement with them. This money is meant to make
sure that the County staff that are providing the service presently at Hale Kokua, will
continue to keep that shop open and to ensure that once job seeking opportunities are
going to be in demand, that the employers and the prospective employees have a place
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to be able to shake hands and meet that objective of getting gainful employment for
those that do not have employment right now.
Councilmember Cowden: Thank you. I have a follow-up on that. I do not
know if there is a matrix that we follow where we see how many people are leaving the
island. I have personally assisted with a few people who have had to leave—it has not
been easy for them, because they do not know where to go. They go somewhere and I
know where they go, but it is unfamiliar areas to them. I am curious as to how much of
our workforce is being economically driven off the island. I know in the early 2000's
when Pamai and I were both on that Workforce Investment Board, we dropped our
unemployment high rates, because we simply got rid of those people who did not have
a job—we did not try to get rid of them, but we lost them. I think that is what is
happening now. I see all over the place, restaurants that are closed for a day or are
closing early. The gas station in my town is closing early and no longer has someone
out in the booth—they just cannot find people to work. Do we track the exit of people?
I do not know how we would. Is there any matrix that we look at of the workforce for
who leaves?
Mr. Dahilig: This is one of the opportunities where I have to
say, Councilmember, I do not have a response to that.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay.
Mr. Dahilig: I may have to come back to you and try to sort
through whether we have data that is able to address what you are asking for, because
I do not know of anything off hand that I think would highlight or address your question.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay. At least for the record, for us to be
recognizing workforce is leaving. It might be that we could look at how many new
driver's licenses from fresh residents are being applied for, and I do not know when
people who leave here get a fresh driver's license somewhere else, if that comes back to
our Motor Vehicle Division. But I do, anecdotally, see an influx in and an influx out.
People coming in mostly are bringing their own jobs with them. It is good for our
economy, but it is not good for our workforce. So I think it is good for us to be able to
anticipate and think about that, because when we are applying a next tranche of
moneys or whatever way we might be doing it, the more we have our finger on the pulse
of what is happening in our employment sector is important. I thank you for both of
these areas of funding that are needed.
Mr. Dahilig: Okay.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Are there anyfurtherquestions on anyof those
items? Rise to Work, County job placement support, or the nonprofit economic loss
support grants from the Members? Councilmember Evslin.
Councilmember Evslin: Not on one of these items, but a general
question.
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Council Chair Kaneshiro: Yes, we can start a new line item or a general
question. Councilmember Kuali`i.
(Councilmember Chock was noted as not present.)
Councilmember Kuali`i: I am not sure if you said it, Mike, but on the
five hundred thousand dollars ($500,000)for nonprofit, I was not sure if we were on that
one. Is there a breakdown already or is there some kind of RFP process. Do you have
intentions of where it is going to go or how is that going to breakdown?
Mr. Dahilig: In terms of the five hundred thousand
dollars ($500,000) for nonprofit economic loss support grants, again, our focus on
support here has been largely tuned to the nonprofit sector due to their lag in the
economic recovery side. We envision this disbursement of funds to largely track what
we did with the small business boost grants, as part of the CARES disbursement last
summer, where a fixed amount would be available first-come, first-serve for any
nonprofits that come in and apply for it given a show of economic need and economic
loss. So we did that through our local credit unions as a means of being able to have
those funds administered and disbursed and we are looking at something similar where
it would be in like stead with the boost grants that provide a fixed amount for businesses
small and large to be able to recover some loss.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: I spoke to you earlier about the agricultural
assistance grant and I am hoping that two hundred fifty thousand dollars ($250,000)
can be sponged again in the upcoming three million eight hundred thousand
dollars ($3,800,000) that we receive. I do not want us to forget food security. I know
tourism is back. I know we are excited about shops open and up and running, but let
us not forget what the pandemic taught us.
(Councilmember Chock was noted as present.)
Councilmember DeCosta: We ran out of food, our shipping prices with
Matson, Young Brothers, and Sea Land is thirty-eight percent (38%) higher now, and
prices of lumber. I want you folks to remember that food security is still a passion for
all of us and I would like to see funding to continue at that realm, especially with our
smaller community farms. Thank you, Mike.
Mr. Dahilig: Acknowledged, Councilmember. Just in
response, I would say that in following back after our conversations with Nalani who
will be administering the oversite with these moneys, at least with this tranche of
funding, we are looking at specifically trying to support health upgrades with small
farmers to be able to have them be ready to sell to our food service industry. It seems
to be that is a specific gap right now from that farm to table assembly line of getting
things from our local farmers into food service, whether it be big or small
establishments. So that is where they are going to be focusing on trying to get these
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folks to a point where their safety measures are up to health standards, so that they
can get their products farm to table ready for purchase.
Councilmember DeCosta: Are those funds earmarked for new and
upcoming small community farms or is the two hundred fifty thousand
dollars ($250,000) expunged already?
Mr. Dahilig: In terms of being expunged, we still have not
targeted specifically the number of farms, whether they would be new or existing. We
suspect it would be predominately focused, at this point, at existing, but I would have
to check with Nalani whether or not this would also be an invitation for those who want
to start up farm operations to receive assistance as well.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you, Mike.
Mr. Dahilig: Sure.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Evslin, then Councilmember
Cowden.
Councilmember Evslin: Thank you. I will bring my question around to
a specific item. How set in stone is this budget? It seems like most of these could be
relatively set. The one that seems like it is based on an unknown would be Emergency
Operations Center Ongoing Response. Hopefully we get to seventy percent (70%)
vaccination rates and we can wind down our response quickly, but that seems like a
relative unknown. Do you folks have the flexibility to reallocate based on us winding
that down or how is that going to work?
Mr. Dahilig: If during this expenditure period it does not
seem that we need the moneys in the emergency operations center response line item,
we would work to try to reallocate it amongst the other line items for that support. We
would not go out of the bounds of the current set of fifteen (15) items that are on the
table right now, similar to how we would treat a normal budget transfer.
Councilmember Evslin: Okay, thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Do you have a follow-up question on that?
Councilmember DeCosta: New item, but not a follow-up.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: The two (2) elderly support; there is Elderly
Mental Health Support and Elderly Food Support, so together it is two hundred
thousand dollars ($200,000). We just had six hundred forty-two thousand
dollars ($642,000) grant item that is ongoing, which is split over four (4) years, so I am
recognizing that. But when we are doing this elderly support, are we including the
houseless population where about half are elderly? In this past window of time the
Agency on Elderly Affairs has reached more than they normally do to that community;
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would this be supporting that community as well or why did we select elderly support
for this tranche?
Mr. Dahilig: In the inception of trying to craft the proposal
to the Council, we reached out to each of the different agencies that we know were
forward-facing at this juncture in continuing community response for the pandemic.
This is what Kealoha and her team recommended to us to be included in that. They
sought to still have a maintenance of effort in mental health support, where currently
we have CARES funding that is supporting EAP access for our kupuna that has served
to be very critical in providing an ear and resources for that area for our kupuna
especially throughout the pandemic, which has been very isolating in nature. So that
is meant as a sustainment of effort and that would be the same for the food support. As
you have mentioned, Councilmember Cowden, there has been a surge of need across the
board with their existing food programs. This is meant to back stop and maintain a
level of service they believe reflects the current surge in asks, so that is where this would
not necessarily be an expansion of any particular program, rather just a maintenance
of what they have been able to put in place this last March.
Councilmember Cowden: Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Do we have any other questions from the
Members on these elderly items? We will take a caption break, then we will come back
to Councilmember Kuali`i with a follow-up question on the elderly and keep going.
There being no objections, the meeting recessed at 10:30 a.m.
The meeting reconvened at 10:44 a.m., and proceeded as follows:
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Welcome back. Councilmember Kuali`i has
questions regarding the elderly line items.
Councilmember Kuali`i: I know you said a little bit about it Mike, but
I know earlier today we voted on six hundred forty-two thousand six hundred
eighty-one dollars ($642,681) for the Agency on Elderly Affairs and that was also
American Rescue Plan moneys. A lot of it went to different things like supportive
services, congregate meals, home-delivered meals, and this was to expand their
existing programs to reach more of our elders. I do not know what their wait list is
like, but I did submit a follow-up question. So along those lines, you said these
moneys are more flexible, not necessarily specifically for those particular programs.
Will the money still go there or is the County doing it directly like food boxes? How
is this the same or different?
Mr. Dahilig: Early on in the pandemic we launched food
box programs to help pair our local farmers with kupuna that could not leave their
homes and provide them sustenance during that early pandemic period. That
program has evolved over time, but still would be in that food box type of approach
where those who are still receiving some services from the Agency on Elderly Affairs
due to the pandemic would be continued on in that manner. With respect to the ARPA
moneys that were specifically set as part of the Title III funds—that is a different
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program, but it is meant as a more sustained expansion from what I understand. In
terms of how long that waitlist is, we will keep an eye out for the communication and
we will also try to elaborate in more detail how the food support program will
integrate with this additional funding from the ARPA.
Councilmember Kuali`i: I have something that is very specific. I do not
know if the food boxes, in working with the farmers...I know it included fresh
vegetables and fruits, but I do not know if it included poi, but I think for some of our
kapuna who are especially needy, it would be good if we could include poi, too. Just
putting that out there. Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any further questions from the
Members on these elderly line items? If not, we will move on to new line items.
Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: I like the poi idea. That is good. While we are
at it, let us add organic grass-fed beef also, so let us not stop there, Councilmember
Kuali`i. You always impress me. Mike, K-PAL Youth Mental Recovery Support
Programs for the three hundred thousand dollars ($300,000). Do we have a K-PAL
position through KPD or was that defunded?
Mr. Dahilig: My understanding is that community policing
includes K-PAL programming and it may not necessarily be a specific position that
is dedicated based off of the way that Chief Raybuck has organized that office, but is
included in the different community policing programs that they do. Our intention
in the pre-dialogue with the Councilmembers were that there was a desire to see more
resources pushed towards our youth in terms of their ability to recover from the
pandemic. We see this as a way to enhance some of the K-PAL programing, so this
would not necessarily be to fund the position, rather to be able to have that
community policing core be able to have more tools at their disposal to support our
youth as we get back to normal.
Councilmember DeCosta: I understand that Mike, but three hundred
thousand dollars ($300,000) is quite a large amount of money and I am just asking
that question, because prior when I coached K-PAL with Mark Ozaki, it was a
designated position through KPD. I am asking now, if the Chief is listening, do we
have a designated position right now through the budget of KPD with K-PAL and
this is additional funding or does this funding support the position?
Mr. Dahilig: Let me be clear in terms of that. If you look
at the agency that is responsible, it is our office, so it is not meant specifically as an
earmark for the police department. We know that there are other initiatives that are
on the lines of leadership development and those types of things that could help with
youth mental health recovery support. We just saw that a partnership with K-PAL
would be an opportunity to provide resources that way. Our office's intent behind
this would not be to provide money for additional positions—that would be our
intention. Chief Raybuck, if he is on the line, can elaborate more about how they are
currently set up, but given that the funding is not earmarked specifically for the police
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department and moreso for our office to handle—our intention is not to add another
position.
Councilmember DeCosta: Okay. Can the Chief answer that question for
me? K-PAL will currently be up and running and do we have a designated officer in
that K-PAL position?
Council Chair Kaneshiro: The Chief may not be on. He might not be at
his desk.
Councilmember DeCosta: Okay. I guess we can find that out later.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: We can send a written request to the Chief on
that.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: I have a follow-up. Some of our youth mental
health assistance went to a skate park in Kapa`a—boy is that a success. I would say
the mental health of the kids running around on that looks pretty high emotional
tone. It is unbelievable how much joy is bouncing around that concrete. Could this
youth mental health recovery support end up partly in another skate park moneys,
because we did have some left over in our parks money?
(Council Chair Kaneshiro was noted as not present.)
Councilmember Cowden: We are looking at Waimea or somewhere else.
I know there was a thought towards `Ele`ele. A lot of the Lima Ola work underway is
not ready yet.
(Council Chair Kaneshiro was noted as present.)
Councilmember Cowden: So it could be things like that, as well. I am
not trying to narrow you in to doing a skate park right now, but that could fall under
that money too, is that right?
Mr. Dahilig: At this juncture, we do have the normal CIP
budget for Fiscal Year 2022 moneys for skate park development.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay.
Mr. Dahilig: So our focus would be to use those moneys
that are actually in the Fiscal Year 2022 budget for any type of additional skate park
construction. It does not necessarily exclude it for potential future expenditure, but
our intention with this was not infrastructure, but rather programing.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay.
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Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Carvalho.
Councilmember Carvalho: Mike, I wanted to ask a question about
K-PAL. Is it still the plan to house the program at the stadium? The facility part
that we were talking about having that structure and having it more of a location
area.
Mr. Dahilig: We are looking at something at this juncture
that, at least from the dialogue with individual Councilmembers, it seemed like there
was a need to more rapidly push support programs out to our keiki. So we were not
looking at this from a standpoint of construction, rather things that we can rapidly
get out there to support some of those gaps that are being articulated to us. Future
tranches of funding does not preclude expenditure on that, as long as we get clearance
from the Office of the County Attorney, but we think at this go around given what we
are hearing, something that we can get out of the gates quickly is what we are after.
Councilmember Carvalho: Okay.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any other questions for any other
line items? Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: Grant Management Overhead/Contingency
Year 1 for KEMA for two hundred fifty thousand dollars ($250,000) beyond the
emergency operation center ongoing response of one million dollars ($1,000,000).
What is that two hundred fifty thousand dollars ($250,000)?
Mr. Dahilig: Just like with the CARES Act budget, we did
need administrative support to ensure documentation and throttling on expenditures
to be in line with the Federal requirements mainly things like ensuring or following
Chapter 2 of the Code of Federal Regulations on expenditure of money, et cetera. The
amount, as mentioned previously, includes one hundred thousand dollars ($100,000)
that is being held in there in case we get a good read from the Federal government
on cesspool conversion, of which one hundred thousand dollars ($100,000) of that
would move into the cesspool conversion line item and we would be left with only one
hundred fifty thousand dollars ($150,000) in overhead, which we would envision only
involves, at best, one (1) individual having to sort through with all the compliance
and reporting that is going to be necessary to use these funds and maintain good
standing with the Federal government.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any other questions from the
Members on that line item? If not, are there any further questions? Councilmember
Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Mike, is that generally allowed as an
administrative fee of sorts for managing the entire funding?
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Mr. Dahilig: We are trying to keep it as low as possible,
because we are trying to push as much money towards programs rather than
overhead—that is our objective. Some places may charge up to ten percent (10%)
overhead and we are trying to keep it to one percent (1%) or two percent (2%) on our
end and we think that we are able to do so given the amount of effort that was needed
to maintain the CARES money.
Councilmember Kuali`i: That is exactly what I was going to say. I
often have seen the administrative fees are around ten percent (10%), so this is
definitely much lower. But you are putting it towards programs as much as
possible—that is really important too, thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: Since we have people listening, I briefly want
to note there is adolescent drug treatment support for two hundred thousand
dollars ($200,000) and domestic violence prevention grants for one hundred
twenty-one thousand dollars ($121,000). Do you want to speak to the adolescent drug
treatment funding?
Mr. Dahilig: As we continue to look at transitioning the
center back to usage as an adolescent drug treatment center, which Mayor Derek S.K.
Kawakami has committed to do, and the pandemic threw a wrench in our intended
plans, the moneys that are coming from the Legislature are a sign of commitment to
ensuring that "kick start" moneys are there to get that center up and running. We
feel it appropriate that we also take same like funding. Because the State legislature
used ARPA funds for that earmark, then for us, we should also contribute to the
cause, so that is where the two hundred thousand dollars ($200,000) in drug
treatment support is meant to pair with the State support that Senator Kouchi and
the Legislature was able to put in this year's budget.
Councilmember Cowden: Okay. Just for clarity, that was one million
three hundred thousand dollars ($1,300,000), I believe, that came from the State. So
that would be putting one million five hundred thousand dollars ($1,500,000) to help
launch the adolescent drug treatment. Thank you.
Mr. Dahilig: Yes.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: I was wondering if Nalani is still on. The two
hundred fifty thousand dollars ($250,000) on the nonprofit economic loss support for
local grants; can you educate us on that?
Mr. Dahilig: I do not see Nalani on the line. Would you like
me to answer the question or would you like me to see if I can call her in?
Councilmember DeCosta: Either way. I would like to know where that
money will be going and what nonprofits are going to be benefiting.
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Mr. Dahilig: I am sorry, you were on mute.
Councilmember DeCosta: I would like to know, is this a lump sum going
out to different nonprofits? How do we allocate it? How do they qualify if it is
nonprofits? What nonprofits?
Mr. Dahilig: Like we did under the CARES Act, when we
did it for all businesses, we provided what was called the boost grant, which was a
fixed amount of money that was given to each business or company that showed a
degree of economic loss, so it was a fixed amount. We are looking at trying to restart
that program just for nonprofit entities that are qualified under the Internal Revenue
Service (IRS) 501(c)(3) Code. It would be a fixed amount that would be given as a
boost, not necessarily based off of the size of the organization or a particular type of
economic loss. So it is restarting a program that we had last summer, but instead,
this time, we would be focused on nonprofits.
Councilmember DeCosta: Okay, I will send an E-mail to Nalani to
follow-up.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Council Vice Chair Chock.
Councilmember Chock: Just a follow-up on the adolescent treatment
center line item. Thank you for providing clarity on what its intent is and I am glad
the County is investing in it as well. I know you folks are in discussion and I have
had some meetings recently in terms of us progressing the treatment center forward;
have we come to a resolution on that item, so we can anticipate the use of these funds?
Mr. Dahilig: At this point in time, we are proceeding as if
we are in normal course. We have engaged in discussions with Hawai`i Health
Systems Corporation Leadership on the center. We remain committed to seeing that
the County remains a partner in being able to get the center up and running. What
we will say is that, at this point in time, we have no intention to respond at any
juncture to calls to have the center revert back to a private entity without cause.
Until this turns into a legal claim or legal demand, we will come to the Council with
that information through our attorneys if that becomes a critical issue where a claim
or some type of specific performance lawsuit may be demanded upon the County.
Councilmember Chock: Thank you. My hope is that it does not move
in that direction as you have mentioned and that there is a resolution that can be
obtained, so the pass-through to get the center up and running is reached. Based on
your response, it does not seem like that is the direction it is going.
Mr. Dahilig: Our intent is to stay focused on the kids. We
have no interest in getting "bogged down" in anything that would impede the
progression of being able to find the best formula to get this up and running. But like
in any multi-agency or multi-entity dynamic, there are differences of opinions. What
I can say for Mayor Kawakami has always been consistent, is that the center will be
used for an adult and adolescent health care purpose at this point, as part of the
COVID-19 pandemic—it was never meant as a permanent usage. We need to transfer
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that particular operation out of that center at a point where we have a sustainable
plan to be able to get something financially up and running. That is where I think
the funds both proposed here and the moneys that are being proposed as part of the
State's legislature budget to the Governor are meant to provide that kick-starting
opportunity to have whatever entity would come in to run the center—have the
kick-starting funds to get critical mass and up and running. As we have seen with
the past two (2) attempts at requests for proposals through our procurement process,
the original idea and the commitment that was made to not have the center draw on
additional State taxpayer resources is not something that is tenable. So it is
important for us to recognize that and move on from that initial presumption and
provide support where necessary. So we see this two hundred thousand
dollars ($200,000) as moneys in recognition of that model that cannot work as initially
envisioned where the center would be self-sustaining.
Councilmember Chock: Thank you. I hope that we can move this
forward quickly and expediently for the sake of the kids.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: I am glad the County is committed. First
hand, I do work for the Department of Education and I have been involved with the
group of adolescent who needs that drug treatment center up and running. We had
to relocate them to Kaua`i High School at a portable, which they originally had a
classroom at the drug treatment center. Now, I believe, going forward, next year, we
have them at three (3) different schools. Waimea, Kapa`a, and Kaua`i High Schools
where they will not be altogether. So we are spreading our resources out. I know the
building is being used for adults, but I believe it is a far cry from what it was first set
out to be. We need to work together to make it happen. The kids have already been
impacted, especially at the high school level. I was able to go in a classroom to teach
these kids and they are the very ones who need to be in a facility like that with the
mental health services, with the educational platform, and all the different entities.
I am really glad the County and Mayor Kawakami are committed. Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Carvalho.
Councilmember Carvalho: I just wanted to follow-up. The intent of the
adolescent center is really about the youth, and you mentioned that earlier. We had
numerous discussions on this project and I think there was never any intent to put
one over the other, we are just trying to make it work, make it fit, make it happen. I
am not trying to cause any kind of conflict, if you will, and I am hoping working
together, we can continue to dialogue and talk about it. Once we get into any legal
issues—you folks know that it causes all of this stuff and avoids—so I am hoping that
as a Councilmember, we can continue to work together and make this center work
sooner than later. It is very important. It is not about others and you know this. I
just wanted to mention that and continue to work closely with the Administration to
see how we can really come up to a solid continued plan. We have a plan in place,
from what I understand, so I look forward to more conversation and not having to
take any legal action, but really work it for the betterment of our youth who really
needs this facility tomorrow. I just wanted to say that. Thank you.
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Council Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any further questions from the
Members on any of the items? Is there any final discussion from the Members?
Councilmember Chock, then Councilmember Kuali`i.
There being no objections, the meeting was called back to order, and proceeded
as follows:
Councilmember Chock: Thank you, Chair. First, I want to thank you,
Mike, the Office of the Mayor, and the Administration for having this dialogue prior
to this meeting to discuss and collaborate with the Council to come up with this
budget and I can see some of these requests have been really taken to heart and
included—the youth mental recovery and cesspool conversion, to note. In
comparison, I will share with my colleagues, I know there are other counties who are
fighting over these funds that are not much, but they are fighting over it nonetheless
to a degree where ten percent (10%) to twenty percent (20%) is being reserved by the
Council. I think that limits the community and County, in general, when we lack the
ability to collaborate, so I want to thank and acknowledge that. I also want to shed
light on moving forward, there is this and another round of it that we might be able
to take a look at, and of course the three million dollars ($3,000,000) that was
identified. None of this that we are looking at here today would have been possible
if, one, the reserve was not there for the shortfalls. Also, we have done well with our
Real Property Tax because of the market in itself, so we have not had to deal with
that shortfall there. That being said, I think the County has a lot of priorities that
we need to and should be looking at to address. I think one was mentioned by
Councilmember DeCosta, certainly food security, which is identified in this is
something that I think we should continue to look at. To me, that qualifies not only
in industry development, but also to be looking at a way to pivot new industries and
supporting those ideas that we need to take into consideration to be more sustainable
and more renewable from the economic standpoint. The other part that came to light
to me on the call today with NACo was that these funds can actually address some of
our existing challenges infrastructure-wise, in particularly flood mitigation. So the
County is right in the midst of hazard mitigation plans. This ARPA funding can go
towards flood management and I think it is a big issue. I know it is a jurisdictional
issue that we have struggled with and whatever funds we had from the last 2018
floods have been dissected and torn apart. I think we need to cross this bridge, so to
speak, sooner than later, in identifying roles and that requires us to put some funding
to come up with strong plans on how it can take care of our flooding issues, because I
think that is on the horizon that will come back to "bite us in the butt," if we do not
take a look at it. I am mentioning those things as opportunities that we can look at
as a County and address for future funding. I will be supporting this.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: I just wanted to say thank you for this and the
breakdown for the way it is. I am appreciative of the moneys going towards
supportive housing and houseless support. I am looking forward to hearing more, as
soon as you have more information on the three million seven hundred thousand
dollars ($3,700,000). Lastly, when Council Vice Chair Chock asked a question about
the adolescent treatment center, I think we received more information than just what
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this one hundred thousand dollar ($100,000) line item represents, but I will say that
since Councilmember Carvalho and I have been working with you, the Mayor, and
the community in moving this forward, I am very confident that we are at a place
now that the overall direction part is done, the day-to-day managerial negotiation
part is what is left and I have every confidence in the Mayor and yourself, Managing
Director, to work with HHSC and with the new nonprofit Kaua`i Adolescent
Treatment Center for Healing (KATCH) on what final steps need to be put in place,
so we can get the treatment center up and running as soon as possible. I am happy
the Department of Health is supportive and ready to transition away from serving as
the isolation center fairly quickly so that can happen. If you need any additional
support from us, please let us know. Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Carvalho.
Councilmember Carvalho: I wanted to thank Mike and Mayor for this
budget. I totally support it. I really appreciate the outreach to all of us individually
to have discussion on it before. The agricultural part is a big part—all of it is very
important, I like the layout, but the agricultural part that we had further discussion
on, duplicating Aina Ho`okupu 0 Kilauea, that kind of setting in different parts of
our island, and the farm to table—that kind of thinking, maybe more support that
way through the agricultural part of this discussion. Of course, the adolescent part,
working together to make it happen. I really appreciate the opportunity to talk
line-by-line and have healthy discussions. Mahalo for that and I look forward to more
positive outcomes in all of these areas. Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: First of all, I do want to echo that I appreciate
that we have had the Reserve Funds available, so we have been able to have this
collective choice to push this tranche of ARPA funds to the broader community. I
think we need to keep an eye on inflation when we are seeing taxes going up. Soon,
we are going to see our bills go up proportionately, because across the islands, the
nation, and the world, everything is going up, so the value of money is less and we
have a challenge with that. I want to speak to what Council Vice Chair Chock has
said about flood mitigation. Councilmember Carvalho and I have been working on
trying to bridge that gap of division between departments of the different layers of
government on our rivers—that is important to me. I feel like all of this is reasonable,
of course it would be wonderful to have a lot more money, because there is lot more
things that need to be addressed. On the adolescent drug treatment facility, I have
a deep interest in that and as Committee Chair for Public Safety & Human Services
Committee, I am a little stunned that this has not been brought to me for a
conversation—I want some inclusion. I am going be looking closer at this issue as we
are struggling through it, but hopefully we will be able to find a way to get this up
and functioning rapidly. I am glad for the one million three hundred thousand
dollars ($1,300,000) that we did get from the State, because that was a big part of the
impasse that we were dealing with. So I am supportive of this and it will be
interesting how we will handle the three million seven hundred eighty-three
dollars ($3,783,000) and the rest. Thank you for the work you have done, Managing
Director Mike Dahilig and everyone involved.
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Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember Evslin.
Councilmember Evslin: I just mostly echo what my colleagues have
said in that I really appreciate this proposed budget. I appreciate the work that you
folks did with us beforehand and the collaboration on it. I think we were lucky in so
many ways on Kaua`i and the smart policy and the heroic efforts of our community
kept COVID-19 at bay, so we were able to avoid those negative health impacts, but
the other tremendous costs of the pandemic—costs on the community, mental health,
et cetera, cost on our businesses we did bear and that was disproportionately often to
the elderly, youth, businesses, nonprofits, and houseless. So I really appreciate both
the CARES Act and this ARPA money in really trying to push all of that out to the
community. I know there was a clear policy decision that you folks had here between
trying to refill our Reserve or using this to push it out to the community and when I
think the community wore the cost of smart and necessary policy, it was important
to push this out, so I really appreciate that. Again, obviously none of that would have
been possible if we did not have a strong Reserve—also, my appreciation to former
Councils. I want to advocate a little bit as we move forward with the three million
eight hundred thousand dollars ($3,800,000), I know that you folks have or are trying
to figure out ways to help businesses in that gap group in some capacity. From my
perspective, a lot of the Federal relief money came too late, so the businesses that
really needed it ended up going out of business. Then the second tranche of Paycheck
Protection Program (PPP) funding was so huge, the Small Business
Association (SBA) relief money that can refund restaurants loss revenues for 2020,
but that does not help all the places that already went out of business. I think as we
are talking about gap businesses that did not receive relief, they are really those who
went out of business already. I do not know how to structure this, but if we were
trying to figure out some gap relief funding, it would be possibly start-up capital for
any business that went out of business in 2020 or early 2021 that did not get Federal
money; maybe getting a small County grant towards some start-up relief could go a
long way.
My other small pitch for that next tranche of funding would be to echo of what
Councilmember Cowden was saying regarding the skatepark. For me, part of the
lesson of the pandemic was realizing the importance of outdoor public spaces that is
such an important place for our community to build community and healthy physical
and mental health in these spaces. Often, what the shutdown showed was the lack
of vibrant outdoor public spaces here. The skatepark coming out of CARES Act was
a good example of what this money can go towards, which I do not know what the
word Councilmember Cowden used, creating bundles of joy or something in that
concrete park, but hopefully we can look at trying to allocate more money toward
mental health, but towards physical infrastructure, especially because we have a
longer time period to spend the money down, it would be great to see more vibrant
open spaces built with that. Anyway, that is all, I appreciate the effort and the
collaboration here.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Councilmember DeCosta.
Councilmember DeCosta: Thank you, Councilmember Evslin. You
almost took the words right out of my mouth and said it even better than I could have
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said it. I just want to echo again, Mike, Mayor, thank you for being transparent from
the get-go with this budget proposal. The prior meeting that we had answered a lot
of the questions. I am impressed when we spoke to Mike and mentioned a couple of
different areas like the one million dollars ($1,000,000) that comes from the
Emergency Operating Center and the two hundred fifty thousand dollars ($250,000)
that is an additional to the grant management overhead. There will be some funding
that may not be used. I need to echo what Councilmember Carvalho said, the food
security, Council Vice Chair Chock, I cannot reiterate it more. Granted we slated
money in this for small farmers for farm to table and getting their product from their
farm certified, washed, and in the market, but we have not put money towards animal
raising or farming. We have models out there and I speak a lot with Council Vice
Chair Chock, our taro farmers have great community taro projects like Waipa and
Uncle Preston Wan in Ha'ena where they work in the taro patch and get to take home
taro—it is a different philosophy than raising vegetables and selling them at the
farmers' market. We need to create a sense of community and I am hoping the next
three million eight hundred thousand dollars ($3,800,000) can be earmarked to create
animal community farming. In dialogue with Council Chair Kaneshiro and
Councilmember Cowden, having our homeless become ranchers to have a purpose to
have a place to live while farming and ranching. I am hoping that can be a dream
come true, so please keep us in mind on the next round of funding. Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Is there any final words of discussion?
Councilmember Kuali`i.
Councilmember Kuali`i: Just the last point, Councilmember Cowden
talked about being stunned that this was not brought to her attention. I will say that
it was not brought to Councilmember Carvalho's or my attention by the
Administration, but in fact it was Councilmember Carvalho and I who initiated...once
we saw the article in the newspaper about the repurposing of the center, we initiated
trying to get back to where the original purpose was. So we thought it could involve
a Resolution or any other policy, so obviously because of Sunshine Law, we are limited
to two (2) Councilmembers pursuing any type of issue, so that is how it came about.
Along the way we met with the community and the Administration and things have
developed and now we are getting to a place where it is about to go back to where it
originally started. It only seems like people are left in the dark, because I believe the
Administration is at a place now, where after they make their final negotiations and
figure exactly how it will take shape, then I would say to Mike, it would be an
appropriate time to come before the Council and give us an update on what the plans
are, how it is going to come to fruition, and how we are going to deliver to our
community how it is intended and always wanted. Thank you.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Is there anyone else? If not, I just want to say
I appreciate this money coming in, it is an extra ten million dollars ($10,000,000) to
our County, which is a big amount of money for our County. As the accountant in me
would say, let us put all this money into the Reserve, but at this time, stimulating
the economy, assisting with mental health in the community, providing funding for
housing and homeless, and mitigating the negative impacts that the community has
felt from COVID-19 last year and going into this year, are definitely much more
pressing than my desire to have a healthy Reserve fund. This money coming in is
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going to be needed to help stimulate the economy and get things going. I will continue
to look at other ways to help build our Reserve back up, but at this time, I think these
priorities are more pressing than replenishing our Reserve. I am happy in the line
items that you have proposed and these are all items that are much needed. I think
all Councilmembers and everyone in the community recognizes that these are the
items that the community is asking for, needs, and wants, so I am appreciative that
we are spending the money towards these items. Councilmember Cowden.
Councilmember Cowden: I just have a little bit more to say. I realize
right now we are speaking to the three million seven hundred eighty thousand
dollars ($3,780,000) as well, when we vote on this, we are accepting both, right? So
we are accepting one open, correct?
Council Chair Kaneshiro: We are accepting to apply for, receive, and
expend the seven million dollars ($7,000,000) and the three million
dollars ($3,000,000), but as the Administration said, they will come back to us with a
plan on the three million seven hundred eighty thousand dollars ($3,780,000).
Councilmember Cowden: Okay. I was hoping we had some input on
that. I am pleased and think all of us would like to help our houseless community.
There are a lot more than who are just in the parks, so I am very proud of Kealaula
and we could build another one, as Councilmember DeCosta is saying. The people
themselves are saying community first is ahead of housing first—a lot of these people
have a bonding from their hardship. So Councilmember Kuali`i and I are going to be
going to O`ahu, and I have been working with the Waimanalo and Waianae groups to
look and see how we can be building on both. Twinkle, who is the head of the Waianae
group, has a statement that I thought really resonated as accurate with me and that
is, "what is needed is a little kuleana to wake up people's mance." Whether it is a farm
or ranch, one of the things that makes them so good together as a group is that they
take care of each other—that is something I see. A lot of times they turn down
opportunities not because they do not want to follow the rules, but because they do
not want to leave each other. So when people have different injuries or disabilities,
they are able to support one another. I am excited that we are all looking at how we
can help these communities and come up with a cost-effective way to be able to spread
that money further and farther. We need to be taking a look at that, especially if we
have happier outcomes as a result. I am very thankful that I hear the resounding
interest in this, and I think that we are going to see, if we are not careful and do not
create solutions, if all we are doing is creating a house, what we really need is to
create solutions, because my concern is there will be more displacement as we are
seeing national trends for wholesale buying of single-family homes by investment
organizations. So a family is not just competing with other families, they are
competing with big financial institutions for buying housing. We are going to have
to out create that problem and that lines up very well with food security, wood,
building, we have trees that we could cut and reuse, there are a lot of ways that we
could be more resilient, and that creates that kuleana to help create the mina. I like
the direction that we are going.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Is there any further discussion from the
Members?
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(No written testimony was received and no registered speakers requested to
testify regarding this agenda item.)
The motion to approve C 2021-144 was then put, and unanimously carried.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: The motion is carried. Next item.
CLAIMS:
C 2021-145 Communication (05/28/2021) from the County Clerk, transmitting
a claim filed against the County of Kaua`i by Dylan DePue, for damage to his property,
pursuant to Section 23.06, Charter of the County of Kaua`i.
C 2021-146 Communication (06/01/2021) from the County Clerk,
transmitting a claim filed against the County of Kaua`i by Donald S. Greer, for
personal physical and punitive damages, pursuant to Section 23.06, Charter of the
County of Kaua`i.
Councilmember Cowden moved to refer C 2021-145 and C 2021-146 to the
Office of the County Attorney for disposition and/or report back to the Council,
seconded by Councilmember Kuali`i.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: Are there any questions or discussion from
the Members?
(No written testimony was received and no registered speakers requested to
testify regarding these agenda items.)
The motion to refer C 2021-145 and C 2021-146 to the Office of the County
Attorney for disposition and/or report back to the Council was then put, and
unanimously carried.
Council Chair Kaneshiro: The motion is carried. That concludes the
business on our agenda. Not seeing or hearing any objections, this Council Meeting is
now adjourned.
ADJOURNMENT.
There being no further business, the Council Meeting adjourned at 11:29 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
JA ►. FOUNTAIN-TANIGAWA
County Clerk
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