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COUNTY OF KAUAI
Minutes of Meeting
OPEN MEETING SESSION
Approved as submitted on 4/25/2022.
Board/Commission: CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION Meeting Date MARCH 28, 2022
Location Boards & Commissions Conference Room, Lihue Civic Center Start of Meeting: 3:17 p.m. End of Meeting: 4:38 p.m.
Present Chair Lori Koga, Vice Chair Jan TenBruggencate. Commissioners: Virginia Kapali, Marissa Sandblom, Coty Trugillo. Also: Hugo Cabrera,
Deputy County Attorney. Boards & Commissions Office Staff: Administrator Ellen Ching, Administrative Specialist Anela Segreti.
Excused Bronson Bautista, Reid Kawane
Absent
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Commissioner Coty Trugillo was sworn into office prior to the meeting.
A. Call To Order Chair Koga welcomed new Commissioner Trugillo and said good-bye to
Commissioner Kapali, thanking her for being a mentor to her.
Chair Lori Koga, called the meeting to order
at 3:17 p.m.
B. Roll Call Roll Call:
Commissioner Bautista-excused
Commissioner Kapali- present
Chair Kawane - excused
Commissioner Sandblom- present
Commissioner Trugillo-present
Vice Chair TenBruggencate-present
Chair Koga- present
Quorum: 5 commissioners present
C. Approval of
Agenda
Vice Chair TenBruggencate moved to
approve the agenda. Commissioner
Sandblom seconded.
Voice Vote:
5 Ayes, 0 Nays
Motion carried 5:0
D. Minutes Open Session Minutes of February 28, 2022
Vice Chair TenBruggencate moved to
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Chair Koga corrected errors in roll call for Vice Chair TenBruggencate,
Chair Koga and Commissioner Kawane.
approve the minutes of February 28, 2022,
as edited. Commissioner Sandblom
seconded.
Voice Vote:
5 Ayes, 0 Nays
Motion carried 5:0
E. Public Testimony None
F. Communication BOE 2022-07 Memorandum from the Chair and Members of the Salary
Commission dated January 31, 2022, regarding a proposal to amend Article
XXIX of the Charter allowing the Salary Commission authority to establish
the maximum salaries of all elected and appointed officials.
Chair Koga clarified that Chair of Salary Commission is Patrick Ono.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate moved to
receive communication BOE 2022-07.
Commissioner Sandblom seconded.
Voice Vote:
5 Ayes, 0 Nays
Motion carried 5:0
G. Business CRC 2022-08 Discussion and possible action on the report of the Permitted
Interaction Group (PIG). The purpose of the Permitted Interaction Group
(PIG) is to provide a written recommendation on how and whether to create
districting for our County Council.
Chair Koga explained that per Sunshine Law today will be a presentation by
the PIG and no discussion. At the next meeting they will be able to ask
questions and have discussion.
Commissioner Sandblom presented an overview of the PIG report and shared a
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few highlights. She stated that the PIG met four times and spent intensive
amounts of time review in historical proposals, recent articles on districting
and came up with nine (9) recommendations that can be found on page 14 of
the document (on file). She entertained questions for clarity only.
Chair Koga stated that the committee did an awesome job.
Commissioner Sandblom commended Administrator Ching for her assistance
in gathering information for review to get a better foundation on how to
approach this proposal this time around.
Commissioner Kapali clarified that this presentation is just to submit the report
and that the public also has access to it as part of the agenda.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate stated that the PIG reviewed the many proposals
and issues around them and asked the ultimate recommendation to characterize
a further look at this.
Commissioner Sandblom stated that they did not want any proposal that is put
out to have any unintended consequences, i.e., the recent special election that
was not an intended outcome of the Charter amendment. She went on that the
first recommendation of hiring a consultant came about as the PIG could not
come to an agreement on what would be most beneficial for Kauai stating that
in the report, for example, there are questions that they assumed wrongfully
that based on public testimony that it might be cheaper to run an election if had
districting, it might be more representative of the island geography and some
of these have been proven false by the data.
Commissioner Trugillo asked why the question of districting has come up and
Commissioner Sandblom explained that public interest had sparked the need to
look at districting proposals.
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Administrator Ching added that about two years ago she was approached by a
member of the public to get a districting proposal on the ballot, she explained
it was late in the process but asked the Chair and it was placed on the agenda,
but the Commission at that time stated that they committed to get in back on
the agenda the next time.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate stated that different proposals have been on the
ballot before and never passed and therefore it is back again. The Commission
have looked at proposals several years and they could not agree on a proposal
to take to the ballot. He went on to explain why the PIG was formed.
Commissioner Kapali stated that in understanding the depth of all of this there
needs to be more discussion on a proposed amendment to the ballot and
thanked all that worked on it.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate moved to defer
CRC 2022-08 to the next meeting for
discussion. Commissioner Sandblom
seconded.
Voice Vote:
5 Ayes, 0 Nays
Motion carried 5:0
CRC 2020-17 Discussion and possible action on proposing a Charter
amendment relating to Council Districting.
Chair Koga asked if there were any members of the public that wanted to
speak on this item.
Mr. Burt Lyon, testifier, stated that he was impressed on the report of the PIG
and thanked them for their work. He agreed that it is a difficult to make a
decision right now, and to do it properly they should explore everything. He
commented on the recommendations, i.e., Recommendation #1, he feels that a
consultant is an excellent idea, and that Colin Moore from the UH (University
of Hawaii) Public Policy department gave a presentation to Maui Charter
Review Commission, and he thought that may be someone they’d want to
consider. He added that if they choose the consultant that the consultant
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should determine the sample size and confidence interval. On
Recommendation #3, on the pros and cons and equal worth of each persons
vote, he feels is subjective. Regarding the concern of having a reapportion
commission to ensure that there will not be a canoe district, he does not see
how there could be one for Kauai, that it would be impossible, aside from
Niihau that would not be possible. Recommendation #6 about starting with the
2016 ballot question which lost by 161 votes, the assumption that since it lost
by such a small amount that it was a popular option. He believes that the
Commission should look at the 2016 survey and look at two most popular
make-ups which were five (5) district, two (2) at large and seven (7) district,
zero (0) at large, which were 24% and 23% respectively. He went on to state
that starting with the three (3) districts with the House of Representatives, he
does not see a danger of a canoe district but that there would be a danger of the
State having a canoe district and one of the districts would be short a certain
number of votes whatever they would have on another island. He believes that
sticking with number of State districts goes against the purpose of having
districts which is smaller districts and have more concise representation.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate moved to defer
CRC 2020-17 to next meeting.
Commissioner Sandblom seconded.
Voice Vote:
5 Ayes, 0 Nays
Motion carried 5:0
CRC 2022-09 Discussion and possible action on a proposal to amend Article
XXIX of the Charter allowing the Salary Commission authority to establish the
maximum salaries of all elected and appointed officials.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate stated that he is generally in support of the Salary
Commission’s recommendations on this.
Administration Ching stated that the proposal is based on the ballot question
that was on the 2018 ballot, exactly. She explained that the Salary
Commission has difficulty every other year with the economic condition and
that it does not make sense for them to put forward a salary resolution in an
election year. They continue to struggle with salary conversions, union raises
which department heads do not receive, vacancies and difficulty in hiring local.
She pointed out that Kauai is the only County that the Salary Commission is
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not authorized to set the salaries. This is a way to address some of the issues.
Commissioner Kapali added that when the Salary Commission gets together a
salary resolution it must be approved by the County Council and when it
reaches the Council agenda, it can be changed. She also explained that they
Salary Commission does do a lot of research in determining salaries.
Administrator Ching added that the Director of Finance and Human Resources
are consulted, and reports are reviewed.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate stated that unlike the other Kauai Commissions
which are given a lot more power than other Counties give to citizen
commissions except for Salary Commission, and he feels that giving them the
authority fits within how we put our county government together.
Administrator Ching and the Commissioners discussed the issues of Council
voting to approve the salary resolution and how that can be an issue for the
council members as it is perceived as them giving themselves a raise when in
fact it is for the next elected council. As well as people not seeing that it is a
maximum amount and that there is flexibility to offer less.
Discussion of the ballot question being simple and legal.
Chair Sandblom recommended that the question not have two parts as in the
current question.
Administrator Ching asked that the commissioners allow her and the Deputy
County Attorney Cabrera work on the ballot question, purpose and background
and get back to the commission.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate moved to
approve CRC 2022-09 the Salary
Commissions proposed Charter language
and to hear from administrator for
discussion. Commissioner Kapali seconded.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate withdrew his
motion.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate moved to
approve the recommendation of the salary
commission with the deletion of references
to ex-officio members and ask staff to
review the proposal and bring back to
Commission at the next meeting to review.
Commissioner Kapali seconded.
Voice Vote:
5 Ayes, 0 Nays
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Motion carried 5:0
CRC 2022-05 Discussion and possible action on proposed ballot question,
purpose, and background on Charter amendment to remove Article XXX
relating to the Electric Power Authority.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate recused himself at 4:16pm
Administrator Ching shared that she and Deputy County Attorney worked
on the ballot question, purpose, and background (on file) for the
Commission to review.
Commissioner Kapali clarified that this was looked at before but did not
make the ballot in 2020.
Administrator Ching clarified that it was on the ballot in 2018 and voted
down, but that it is a housekeeping item, and she has asked the Commission
to look at it again for the 2022 ballot and worked on the question to simplify
it.
The Commissioners and Administrator discussed the ballot question.
Commissioner Kapali suggested, “Shall the Charter to remove Article XXX
which gives the County Council…”
Commissioner Sandblom suggested that the purpose of the amendment is to
remove provisions in the Charter that will allow rather than will allow.
Administrator Ching clarified that there will be a final vote on what will go
on the ballot.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate recused himself
from this item, he is a member of the KIUC
board.
Commissioner Kapali moved to put the
Charter amendment for removing Article
XXX on the next ballot pursuant to
tweaking language and getting purpose, and
background with the County Attorneys and
Administrator and made clearer and it be
brought to the next meeting for final
consideration. Commissioner Sandblom
seconded.
Voice Vote:
4 Ayes, 0 Nays
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Motion carried 4:0:1 recused
CRC 2021-08 Discussion and possible action on proposed ballot question,
purpose, and background to amend Charter Section 9A.05. Vacancy in Office
related to the Office of the Prosecuting Attorney.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate returned to the meeting at 4:26pm
Administrator Ching welcomed input on proposed language presented to
Commissioners (on file).
Commissioner Sandblom clarified that this amendment is to clarify that if
there is a vacancy the first deputy will assume the position to the next
election.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate clarified that the 1st Deputy will serve until the
next regular election cycle. He said that the last amendment was to fix the
six-month gap with no guidance whatsoever, but then that created a new
problem of a special election.
Administrator Ching clarified that it is a 4-year term, and it could be less
than 2 years.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate moved to make
this proposed Charter amendment part of
the 2022 general election to be reviewed at
the final review. Commissioner Sandblom
seconded.
Voice Vote:
5 Ayes, 0 Nays
Motion carried 5:0
CRC 2021-04 Discussion and possible action on Charter Initiatives of interest.
Vice Chair TenBruggencate moved to
receive item CRC 2021-04 and remove it
from the agenda. Commissioner Kapali
seconded.
Voice Vote:
5 Ayes, 0 Nays
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Motion carried 5:0
H. Announcements Next Meeting: April 25, 2022
Administrator Ching announced that this is Commissioner Kapali’s last
meeting and thanked her for her service, and stated that she added so much to
the commission.
Commissioner Kapali thanked everyone for their work.
I. Adjournment Hearing no objections Chair Koga
adjourned the meeting at 4:38pm
Submitted by: __________________________________ Reviewed and Approved by: _________________________________________
Anela Segreti, Administrative Specialist Lori Koga, Chair
(X) Approved as circulated.
( ) Approved with amendments. See minutes of