Loading...
HomeMy WebLinkAboutSUB Minutes Aug 10 2010KAUAI PLANNING COMMISSION SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE MEETING August 10, 2010 The regular meeting of the Planning Commission Subdivision Committee was called to order by Chair, James Nishida at 8:36 a.m., at the Lihue Civic Center, Mo'ikeha Building, in Meeting Room 2A -213. The following Committee members were present: Mr. Jan Kimura Mr. James Nishida Ms. Camilla Matsumoto Discussion of the meeting, in effect, ensued: APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA On motion made by Camilla Matsumoto and seconded by Jan Kimura, to approve the agenda, motion carried unanimously by voice vote. GENERAL BUSINESS MATTERS There were no general business matters. COMMUNICATION There were no communications. UNFINISHED BUSINESS There was no unfinished business. NEW BUSINESS Tentative Subdivision Action, S- 2010 -12, State ofHawai`i  Dent. ofLaud & Natural Resources, Land Division, TMK: 4 -6- 003:004, 010, 021, 034, Kaya`a, Kauai. Agenda item was not recorded due to technical difficulties. Staff Planner Dale Cua presented staff report to the committee. Agency comments have been received by the department and no concerns were raised by the committee members regarding the proposed project. On motion made by Camilla Matsumoto and seconded by Jan Kimura, to approve tentative subdivision action for S- 2010 -12, motion carried unanimously by voice vote. Tentative Subdivision Action, S- 2011 -01, Canpartners Realty Holding Company IV Kealia, LLC. 2 -lot Boundary Adjustment. TMK: 4 -7- 003:002, Kealia, Kauai. Staff Planner Dale Cua: (Inaudible) Kealia Mauka Properties. As noted in the staff report the intent of the proposal is to establish a lot to contain the existing rodeo arena facility and the intent is to be dedicated to the County of Kauai. Chair: Can you address the Department of Public Works comment on the form and content of the map? Staff: I am sure before final approval they are going to require that the surveyor's stamp is current. Chair: So this happened before though. Staff: It did. Chair: So they are just saying they have to comply. Staff: It is just one of those oversights on the surveyor's part. Chair: But the department is not going to make them do it ahead of time? Staff: I am quite certain that Mr. Thompson's stamp is current. Ms. Matsumoto: On the map it is this one? Staff: It would be the rodeo area. Mr. Kimura: They are dedicating that to the County? Staff: Yes. It would be lot 44 -A. So if you go to the subdivision map, if you are looking at it, just east, the rodeo area is just west of (inaudible). Chair: What made it that? Staff: The initial lot was actually here, this dashed line. Basically the applicant is just relocating that one lot that was initially along the highway and moving it to contain the rodeo area facility. Mr. Kimura: This is the highway? Subdivision Committee Minutes August 10, 2010 Staff: Yes. Mr. Kimura: So this is the old Kealia Camp. Staff: Right in front where it used to be. Mr. Kimura: All the way to the river? Staff: Yes. Chair: I am curious, it's not about this but it's about this map. You know all the different easements; it is not a normal thing? Staff: hi a larger subdivision you will see a series of easements, designated for a specific purpose, often times to address drainage, access, electrical. Chair: So where there are those easements like a drainage easement you cannot build in it? That is why they put the easement there? Staff: It is to alert the owners that there is some kind of encumbrances on the property and encourage that they not build on it. Mr. Kimura: So all these lots are all subdivided already? Staff: It was created through the previous subdivision. I think I noted it here, that obtained subdivision approval back in September of 07. Mr. Kimura: All this? Staff: Yes. Chair: In your subdivision report the County Housing Agency said that it wasn't subject to the Affordable Housing but actually that was because the major part of the subdivision had an affordable housing component and this particular boundary adjustment (inaudible). Mr. Kimura: Where is the affordable housing in this project? Staff: If you go on Kam Road it is about midway on the side of the... Mr. Kimura: Where the second area is? Staff: Past. Subdivision Committee Minutes August 10, 2010 Mr. Kimura: Past the second area. It's all sloped, is that where the affordable housing is going to be? Staff: River view. Chair: Any other questions? What does the committee want to do? Ms. Matsumoto: Move to approve tentative subdivision action for S- 2011 -01, Canpartners Realty Holding Company IV Kealia LLC, TMK: 4 -7- 003:002, Kealia, Kauai. Mr. Kimura: Second. Chair: Moved and seconded, all those in favor say aye, opposed, motion carries. On motion made by Camilla Matsumoto and seconded by Jan Kimura, to approve tentative subdivision action for 5- 2011 -01, motion carried unanimously by voice vote. Tentative Subdivision Action, S- 2011 -02, Canpartners Realty Holding Company IV Kealia, LLC TMK: 4 -7- 004:001, Kealia, Kauai, 2 -lot Boundary Adjustment, TMK: 4 -7- 004:001, Kealia, Kauai. Staff: Thank you Mr. Chair. In this proposal again it is a boundary adjustment between two existing lots on the Kumukumu side of the Kealia Mauka Subdivision. I think noted in the staff report the intent of the proposal is to establish a lot which is to be dedicated to the County of Kauai to be developed as an affordable housing project. This lot is identified as lot 2A on the subdivision map that you have before you, lot 2A is immediately adjacent to the existing residential subdivision in this area. The subdivision map has been routed to the various reviewing agencies. The department has incorporated the requirements into the staff report. This is on the right side as you are going up the hill. The previous application was on your left side, on the Kapa`a side of the hill Mr. Kimura: How do the residents up there now feel about the affordable housing coming up there? Staff: When the subdivision came before the Commission back in 05 there was a large group that actually supported the concept of having affordable housing in this area. Mr. Kimura: But I am talking about the residents. Staff: I think some of those people who were in that support group were residents in that subdivision. Chair: They were notified about this? Staff: Yes, they are aware of the affordable housing concept of this project. Subdivision Committee Minutes August 10, 2010 Chair: No, about the relocation of the lot? Staff: I think from an infrastructure standpoint it is a more logical layout because of the infrastructure just being... it is a logical expansion of the roads and a logical expansion of the existing water line facilities as apposed to going all the way into (inaudible). Mr. Kimura: But the residents were notified that they changed the lots to affordable housing and they are going to put houses right in back of their houses? Staff: At the present time I am not aware of the applicant having any committee meetings. Chair: But aren't you supposed to notify people within a certain amount of feet? Staff: Not for subdivisions. It is applicable to Class IV permits, SMA permits. Mr. Kimura: So by the time they get notified this is like a done deal. Staff: Should the County pursue the affordable housing project. Ms. Matsumoto: I have a question about affordable housing on the island. I don't know if you have statistics about this but do you know how many projects there are, how many affordable homes there are existing and then also being proposed. That is one question. The second question is what is affordable housing? How much would an affordable home cost? Staff: Going to your first question I am not aware of any current affordable housing coming up right now that the County has. I think the most recent completion was the Kalepa Village up in Hanama`ulu. And as far as affordable housing I defer that question to the Housing Agency because I know they have several median groups. Ms. Matsumoto: So would they have numbers available? Staff: Yes. Ms. Matsumoto: Then how can we find out those numbers? Staff: I can provide you with that information. I can get it to you. As noted as far as this project is concerned there are no immediate plans to develop this affordable housing it is just basically to set aside a large lot to be dedicated to the County and it is up to the County at such time to develop the property. But it is the applicant's intent just to dedicate it. Ms. Matsumoto: I guess my concern is it is really wonderful that developers and the County want to provide homes for people but I don't really know if affordable equals something that people can actually afford on their salaries. Subdivision Committee Minutes August 10, 2010 Mr. Kimura: Like the Kukui`ulaproject? Ms. Matsumoto: Yes, it is to me not affordable and in that way it is not good for the County. Ms. Kimura: I agree with you. Ms. Matsumoto: I don't know how people can afford that. Mr. Kimura: In the future maybe we can have some kind of price range. Staff: Sure. Mr. Kimura: When you guys come in with affordable housing. Ms. Matsumoto: Or some kind of presentation. Mr. Kimura: We don't want to approve affordable housing and it is like 500 thousand dollars. Staff: The biggest difference is when the County runs a program it is based on numbers that the County manages. Mr. Kimura: Could we have somebody from Housing here the neat time when we do have an affordable housing project in front of us? Staff: Right, on your neat affordable housing project. Chair: Dale, I think you can send them something that shows the ranges. Staff: Sure, I can get a sliding scale. I can even email that to the Commissioners. Chair: For rental and for purchase. So this transfer satisfies the County Housing Agency's requirement for housing for this subdivision? Staff: If you would base it on today's ordinance, yes. Chair: Well at the time. Staff: At the time this subdivision came out there was no housing policy. Chair: You have to work that out with the County Housing Agency. Staff: Right. Subdivision Committee Minutes August 10, 2010 Chair: So they didn't actually have to build anything. The requirement for the subdivision was a transfer, well the establishment of this and then this is... Staff: I think the applicant represented on their own that they wanted to provide affordable housing. Ms. Matsumoto: I have questions, so the form and content of map, it says the surveyor has expired, the profession land surveyor has expired. Staff: I will make sure that when the final subdivision maps come back that the stamp will be current. Ms. Matsumoto: And then I guess the retention and detention basin arrangements need to be reviewed. And then I have a question about the road, it says here access must be restricted, government road must be restricted, why is that? Staff: Whenever you have a major roadway the volume of traffic tends to be intense so the subdivision ordinance, the way it is written, tried to prohibit the amount of access points along a major arterial roadway. So as much as possible they try to restrict access onto these major roadways. It is like having a residential driveway off a freeway. Ms. Matsumoto: And then in item 3 it says domestic water service is not available. Staff: Yes. Chair: What does the committee want to do? Mr. Avery Youn: Can I answer some of those questions? Chair: Go ahead. Mr. Youn: My name is Avery Youn. I am the authorized agent for Canpartners who is the owner of the property. On Jim Thompson's signature this map was originally prepared in 2005. What they did was they was they just took the original final map and amended it to accommodate this subdivision. We were supposed to get a letter by this morning. I am not sure if it came in yet stating that his stamp is current up to 2012. So you will be receiving that shortly. As far as the water supply Kealia has its own private water system which services the houses adjacent to this affordable site and the houses on the makai side of Kuhi`o Highway. And that system has recently been upgraded and they have their own wells and they are under a totally separate private system of which the proposed housing site is supposed to receive water from that system. Mr. Kimura: So there is domestic water, right? Subdivision Committee Minutes August 10, 2010 Mr. Youn: There is domestic water but it is not County. Ms. Matsumoto: Move to approve tentative subdivision action for S- 2011 -02, Canpartners Realty Holding Company IV Kealia LLC, TMK: 4 -7- 004:001, Kealia, Kauai. Mr. Kimura: Second. Chair: Moved and seconded, all those in favor say aye, opposed, motion carried. On motion made by Camilla Matsumoto and seconded by Jan Kimura, to approve subdivision action for 5- 2011 -02, motion carried unanimously by voice vote. ADJOURNMENT This portion ended at 8:59 a.m. Respectfully Submitted. Lam Agoot Commission Support Clerk Subdivision Committee Minutes August 10, 2010